Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin - Jonathan McIntosh Doesn't Believe His Own Bullshit
Aired: 2015-12-05
Duration: 08:41


=== Lighting Up Patriarchy (06:52) ===

[00:00:00]  So this is Jonathan McIntosh's How Men Can Help End Sexism.
[00:00:04]  This is the outtakes from it.
[00:00:07]  And I find it very peculiar, because if I was talking about a very serious subject, and I'm talking like the oppression of an entire gender, I don't think I'd be doing it in such a light-hearted way.
[00:00:21]  Let's have a watch.
[00:00:24]  So where do men fit into all of this?
[00:00:26]  Can we just go to the beach and wait for women to fix it?
[00:00:31]  Again, just that's that's not very compassionate of you, John.
[00:00:36]  I mean, it's just this very blase attitude.
[00:00:39]  Let's carry on.
[00:00:40]  No.
[00:00:41]  Go up at the end of the day.
[00:00:42]  And that word is patriarchy.
[00:00:47]  John, the patriarchy is the devil you're supposed to be scaring us with.
[00:00:51]  If a Catholic priest stood in front of his fucking congregation and was like, ooh, the devil, ooh, isn't that scary?
[00:00:58]  People would be like, are you taking this seriously?
[00:01:01]  I mean, you don't look like you're taking this seriously.
[00:01:04]  Why should I take the patriarchy, or sorry, the devil seriously?
[00:01:10]  Lightning.
[00:01:12]  So the patriarchy isn't a big deal.
[00:01:14]  I mean, this is the great evil you're trying to slay, and you're talking about it as if it's not real, John.
[00:01:23]  You're talking about it as if it's a joke.
[00:01:24]  And don't go wrong, I think you're quite funny, man.
[00:01:26]  I think that's hilarious.
[00:01:28]  But it also makes me think you don't believe your own bullshit.
[00:01:35]  And I should do a guitar.
[00:01:36]  Yeah, I can't see your hands get a bit more.
[00:01:40]  No, it's just a loot.
[00:01:42]  It's not as funny.
[00:01:47]  That's quite amusing, man.
[00:01:50]  It's nice to see you having a bit of character and personality when you're not pulling that fucking face.
[00:01:55]  But again, I thought the subject matter that you were talking about was quite difficult.
[00:01:59]  We're talking about the systematic or systemic oppression of all women in the West, aren't we?
[00:02:08]  It's just kind of funny.
[00:02:09]  I mean, it's nothing to be too worried about, I guess.
[00:02:12]  Just don't take it seriously.
[00:02:13]  Is that weird?
[00:02:15]  No.
[00:02:16]  Not something people do.
[00:02:18]  It's not something I do.
[00:02:19]  Look a tad to your left.
[00:02:23]  Oh my god, would you stop fucking faking this shit?
[00:02:27]  That's your good side.
[00:02:28]  This is my good side?
[00:02:30]  It's not your good side.
[00:02:32]  But this hunching over bullshit makes you look like some sort of goddamn troglodyte, and it doesn't make you look trustworthy or honest or innocent or anything like that.
[00:02:40]  Oh yeah.
[00:02:41]  Oh yeah.
[00:02:44]  Oh no.
[00:02:45]  I know.
[00:02:47]  Dude, where is this charisma normaly?
[00:02:52]  Normally you're too busy lecturing people.
[00:02:54]  By the way, I've got some super serious patriarchy thing to talk about.
[00:02:58]  But then I'm gonna have a laugh about it in my own time.
[00:03:01]  I mean, it's not like I take this seriously, but you should.
[00:03:05]  Men shouldn't expect a reward for deciding not to participate in a horrible system of oppression.
[00:03:12]  A horrible system of oppression, John.
[00:03:14]  Keep that in your mind.
[00:03:15]  What those words mean, a horrible system of oppression.
[00:03:20]  And doom.
[00:03:22]  Why are you making light of that?
[00:03:26]  Why is that a joke?
[00:03:30]  Horrible system of doom.
[00:03:32]  You don't believe any of this, do you?
[00:03:35]  You're full of shit.
[00:03:36]  I can't believe if you thought this was a horrible system of oppression, you would be mocking your own, I don't know what you, I don't want to just call it bullshit because that seems kind of dismissive, but you would be mocking your own thesis on society.
[00:03:52]  Doom!
[00:03:55]  Just, are you serious?
[00:03:56]  Are you honestly mocking what you are saying?
[00:04:00]  Patriarchy.
[00:04:02]  Horrible oppression of doom.
[00:04:03]  I mean, that's what we do when you're talking, incidentally.
[00:04:08]  It's, I mean, do you want to join the next shitlord stream?
[00:04:12]  Because I think I could probably get you on there.
[00:04:15]  Get into feminist bandit sexism.
[00:04:19]  Do it!
[00:04:20]  Not that big a deal.
[00:04:21]  Let's just have a joke about sexism.
[00:04:24]  I don't think that's.
[00:04:26]  It's just a white man joking about the oppression of women and sexism in society.
[00:04:30]  Why wouldn't that be funny, John?
[00:04:32]  That'll work.
[00:04:33]  Why not?
[00:04:34]  Doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doomy-doom, doom, doom.
[00:04:37]  Oh, you must be talking about more oppression.
[00:04:40]  Or the patriarchy.
[00:04:41]  I'm loving this, though.
[00:04:43]  This is great.
[00:04:44]  This is lovely.
[00:04:44]  This is so refreshing to the normal sort of moralizing and browbeating that you guys do.
[00:04:50]  You should do more of this.
[00:04:51]  You really should.
[00:04:52]  Doomy doom doom doom doom.
[00:04:54]  See?
[00:04:55]  Doom doom doomy doom doom doom.
[00:04:59]  You wouldn't believe this guy's in his mid-3s, would you?
[00:05:01]  Acting.
[00:05:04]  Don't quit your day job as a propagandist.
[00:05:07]  That's exaggerated.
[00:05:08]  I should just do this the whole time.
[00:05:10]  How's that?
[00:05:10]  That's beautiful.
[00:05:11]  Perfect.
[00:05:11]  There you go.
[00:05:12]  Right.
[00:05:13]  This feels good.
[00:05:14]  I like this.
[00:05:17]  I am secretly a Muppet inside of a human spot.
[00:05:20]  That's not a secret, John.
[00:05:22]  This is what's happened.
[00:05:24]  Yeah, we know.
[00:05:34]  I was from Greg Kinnear on TalkSoup, which I used to watch all the time when I was a kid.
[00:05:38]  But remember to be compassionate and patient with yourself and keep working at it.
[00:05:44]  That was good.
[00:05:47]  Yeah, you might have gotten that.
[00:05:50]  Yeah.
[00:05:50]  Yeah.
[00:05:51]  Do you want to do it once more?
[00:05:52]  No.
[00:05:53]  Okay, let's.
[00:05:57]  Move on.
[00:06:00]  This is genuinely amusing.
[00:06:02]  I am in genuine awe that you are actually people with personalities.
[00:06:05]  You got that.
[00:06:06]  You had a mouthful of dirt.
[00:06:07]  Do you want to eat another mouthful of dirt?
[00:06:10]  No.
[00:06:11]  No, I don't.
[00:06:14]  Why aren't you funny in the usual videos?
[00:06:17]  Why don't you do this?
[00:06:18]  No one would criticize you for using a bit of humor.
[00:06:22]  And is it that you think people don't think you would take it seriously?
[00:06:29]  This guy is awesome.
[00:06:31]  He's just responding to every single one of my tweets with laugh out loud.
[00:06:36]  Is it me?

=== Tone And Truth (02:03) ===

[00:06:37]  I should just rant.
[00:06:39]  I shouldn't try to read anything.
[00:06:42]  Yeah, I agree.
[00:06:43]  You should just run.
[00:06:44]  You should just get it off your chest.
[00:06:45]  Except it doesn't look like it makes you very angry.
[00:06:48]  It doesn't look like there's a rant in there.
[00:06:50]  It looks like you need to script all this.
[00:06:53]  Because, again, I don't think you buy your own bullshit.
[00:06:58]  That's what everyone does.
[00:07:01]  That's what will get so many more views.
[00:07:03]  Clearly.
[00:07:04]  Actually, it probably will.
[00:07:05]  That's the sad part.
[00:07:07]  Now start the video over again and watch it on a loop until you get it.
[00:07:15]  Okay.
[00:07:15]  Alright.
[00:07:16]  Never mind.
[00:07:16]  We'll start with this.
[00:07:18]  I can't believe that Jonathan McIntosh and Anita Sarkeesian think that we live in a terrible patriarchy that is oppressing women if they take this kind of blasé attitude towards making their videos telling you about it.
[00:07:34]  It just, I mean, don't get wrong, it's a fun video, and it's a fun thing that they've done here.
[00:07:39]  But I just don't believe with the sort of flippant attitude that they have to what they are claiming is a terrible system of oppression, that they even think it exists.
[00:07:49]  I always hate making this judgment, but it really does sound like they're just telling people what they want to hear for money.
[00:07:55]  And I know that I've been like, well, look, I'm not even sure that's the case.
[00:07:59]  But maybe it is.
[00:08:00]  Maybe I was wrong.
[00:08:01]  And you know what?
[00:08:02]  Maybe I'm just reading too much into these outtakes.
[00:08:05]  Maybe I'm just, you know, maybe I don't have context.
[00:08:08]  Maybe I don't have enough information to really judge whether John actually thinks the patriarchy is something real or something that he can just mock in the outtakes of his video.
[00:08:18]  But honestly, I really don't know how anyone buys what they're saying.
[00:08:24]  If they can treat it, if they can treat horrible oppression with such a light-hearted tone.
[00:08:31]  I don't see why I should take the patriarchy and the systematic oppression of women any more seriously than they do.
[00:08:40]  And that word is patriarchy.