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Aug. 16, 2014 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin
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The 6oodfella and Sargon Show (16⧸08⧸2014)
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Hello everyone, thanks for joining us and back by popular demand, I've got Goodfell with me.
So thanks very much.
Loads of people thought we'd had a falling out or something.
And I got like a few messages and comments saying, oh, do you not like are you not friends with him or something now?
I'm like, yeah, that's fine.
It's just, you know, we're both busy at different times.
Calm down.
I thought it was because of that.
Sorry, go on.
I thought it was because of that comment I left you, you know, where I said that you were a real letdown.
And I thought because a lot of the time people read half a comment and they don't go any further and they don't know you're being sarcastic, you know?
Yeah.
That happens to me quite a lot.
It's happened a few times on my the Joan Rivers one.
There was a comedian, some guy on stage, right?
And he's telling jokes and one of the women in the crowd didn't like what he was joking about.
So she jumped on the stage, right?
And I think he was making jokes about Muslims or something and she just she wasn't a Muslim but she just took offence, jumped on the stage and fucking slapped him, right?
What up?
And then went back to her seat and sat exactly.
Went back to her seat and then sat down.
So I made a comment and I said that that reminds me when I was joined her in the mouth joke, you know what I mean?
It was obviously but a few people think I read half the comment and then just jumped on me, you know, as if I was a bad bastard, but it's quite funny when you do that sometimes.
Yeah, I think I'm just as guilty though.
Sometimes someone will post a comment on my on one of my videos and I'll I'll be pissed off because I'll be like, how could you even think that I've got that position?
And then after rereading it, I'll have written out this big lengthy thing and then I realize they're actually just being ironic and it's just oh for fuck's sake.
Yeah we've we've had like a bit of a technological upgrade and by that what I mean is we've learned to use some aspects of Google Plus Hangouts.
So we'll be able to show you some of the things we're actually talking about this week.
Yes, some of the interesting things.
In fact something quickly we could talk about right I will send you a minute and then put that back yeah and I will send you a link on this and you can put it on the screen.
Yep.
It's it's Lego science.
Females in science.
Have you seen it?
No.
No.
I already know it's going to be hilarious.
It's people demanding more females.
It's female scientist toys after fans demand them.
Lego have made all these female scientists in the STEM fields.
I just thought it's quite amusing you know and Disney it doesn't bother me that you know that they make these toys.
The only thing that bothers me is that they're doing it for part as part of an agenda.
It's not because oh these toys are fun.
It's because their agenda is let's get more women in the STEM fields.
And it's like it's not a toy company's place to you know to push agendas but that's just the only thing that bugs me about it but the toys themselves don't actually bother me.
No I'm totally with you there and and that that's it's ideological infestation isn't it that's the thing.
Yeah so Leah Lego adds new female toys if fans demand them which is fine you know yeah see all the Lego girls did was sit at home go to the beach shop and they had no jobs.
This is the sort of thing that really pisses me off right because all all the people at Lego doing are going right well we need to sell Legos to little girls.
What do little girls like to do?
And that's a list of things that little girls like to do.
Jobs aren't one of them.
And so, you know, Lego can't win.
You know, there's nothing they can do.
All they can do is ask little girls what they want and what they're going to buy, and little girls tell them, and it's not what feminists want them to want.
And so they get furious.
And, you know, no, suddenly Lego is a terrible patriarchal company.
It's just, it's like, I think it's the whole more to do with the fact that, you know, this whole geek culture, big bang theory, you know, it's quite trendy right now, you know?
And I think it's more to do with that than to do with, you know, pushing them into the STEM fields.
I hope it's not about that, because that's pathetic.
If they want to go into the STEM fields, there's nothing stopping them, you know?
Actually, that reminds me, I saw a link around and I don't think I saved it.
I'm just going to have a quick look.
It was about basically that women keep dropping out of STEM fields.
It was something like 60% of women who go into engineering drop out from psychology or something like that because they're just not really that interested in it.
And it's like, well, what can you do?
You can't force young girls or young women to want to do a job that they don't want to do.
I mean, you just can't do it.
It's mental.
I posted another link there, right?
If you want to click on that one.
It's just what you were talking about there.
Similar to what you're talking about, you know, lack of women in the STEM fields.
This one is the 26-year-old woman who got Silicon Valley to disclose gender data.
And it turns out that most people in Silicon Valley are white men, right?
Now, so, so what?
No, I mean, why is that even because women are not banned and non-white people are not banned from Silicon Valley?
There's nothing stopping them from getting there.
But as soon as there's more white men, they go, hey, that's prejudiced.
But yet when they look at the people doing the road maintenance, they don't say, hey, that's prejudiced.
And that's all men as well.
See, this statistic is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about.
174 companies have put their gender numbers and 15% of engineers in the list are women.
And it's like, okay.
And that's with literally all the quotas and all the affirmative action you could possibly desire.
What are you going to do?
You're just going to frog march them into those jobs and hold them there at gunpoint.
You know what I mean?
What are you going to do?
They're just not.
It's very clear that the people who demand quotas and let's push more women, they don't like freedom.
They don't want people to have freedom.
And women should have the freedom to choose what they want to do.
If they want to be a DJ or they want to be a ballet dancer or they want to be working in a factory, they should be able to do what the fuck they want to do.
There's nothing stopping them except themselves.
Yeah, except their own natural inclinations.
Yeah, if you're not that way inclined.
I mean, I wasn't that way inclined.
You know what I mean?
I didn't go into engineering.
It's not necessarily a gender thing.
It's just a person thing.
It takes a kind of personality.
I think it comes down to as well.
There's this thing I got off Amazon, right?
It's quite good.
A robot robot army built yourself.
And I think that a toy like that is more likely to be boys that want that than girls.
I'm sure some girls would want it, but we're talking in general, the majority.
It's going to be boys that want that more than girls.
It's just the way the differences, the differences are.
Of course.
One of the things that always.
One of the things that Anita Sakizin said in one of her stupid Lego videos that pissed me off more than anything else, right, was when she was going through the um the history of like Lego, and in the 80s there was a Lego advert, or 80s or 90s, there's a Lego advert deliberately targeted at fathers and sons.
How Lego was a great bonding experience for the two.
And afterwards, I think she just like puts her hand over her forehead and she's like, oh, that's so awful.
And it's just like, fuck yourself, Anita.
You know, this just isn't to do with women.
That's it.
That's all.
Lego is making it by the way.
Yeah.
All it is.
And I was looking at the advert thinking, that is probably the healthiest advert I can imagine.
You know, it's just this father and son build a spaceship or something.
And it's, you know, it's such a, you know, it's obviously designed to advertise to fathers more than sons, if nothing else, you know.
But yeah, it was just yeah, the self-the self-obsession of it does my head in.
Should we yeah, should we talk about this one?
Let me see, just put it on the hangout there.
Ah, yes.
Oh, for fuck's sake.
I'm going to start reading this just to get started.
A state agent who glassed me was only spared because she is a woman.
Victim says he has disgusted attacker walk-free despite 17 previous convictions for assault, so that's 18 in total.
Look, you see the picture of him if you scroll down.
This is Neil took his fucking eye out, and you see the picture of her.
She's got 18 convictions.
She's a danger to herself and others around her, he said.
Just imagine.
You know, all you have to do is just reverse that.
If a man with previous, 17 previous convictions for assault glassed a woman in the face, would he really walk away?
Would he really walk from court?
It's unthinkable.
So what happened going up to it?
Have we got a description of the so- yeah, there is a description?
Have you got an eye got it?
Yeah, yeah.
We'd been at the bar for about an hour or so.
We stepped on the dance floor, and the lady in question, Yasmin, was there.
I didn't know her at all.
One of her friends stole Richard's e-cigarette and threw it on the floor.
Okay, brilliant.
Yasmin picked it up and tapped me on the shoulder and gave it to me.
I was surprised and handed it back to Richard.
She then said, Aren't you going to say thank you then?
I was confused and didn't say anything.
She threw a drink on my face first, then smashed the glass in my left eye socket.
Holy shit.
That is the most entitled fucking woman on earth.
But as you can see there, it clearly provoked her.
Unfucking believable, isn't it?
That is that is barking.
Just aren't you going to say thanks then?
It's like, no.
Oh, I'll glass you then, you prick.
But when you go to the, I sent you two links earlier, the one from the telegraph and one from the male online.
The one from the telegraph, this is from 2010, right?
Yeah.
And it's related to that last story.
That's why we're talking about it.
Judges told, be more lenient to women criminals.
Female criminals are more likely to have mental health or educational difficulties and have parenting responsibilities.
Well, a lower proportion will have committed violent crimes than men.
So therefore, you know, the people that teach judges and train them are the people that are suggesting that they don't put women in prison basically unless they're really, really violent.
Probably murderers is what they're talking.
It is totally disgusting privilege and sexism at work, but I've not really heard many feminists talk about it.
The judicial studies board, I mean, they sound like they're quite important.
You know, they sound like people who are like, you know, the ones telling judges what to do.
And like you say, and they are feminist.
You know?
Be more lenient to women criminals.
'Cause that's that's that's exactly the position feminism would adopt.
It's it's the most it's the most ironic thing and judges being told to be more lenient to someone based on the way they were born.
It should be completely blind.
Remember, justice is blind, but if it's a woman, don't put her in prison.
It's unbelievable, isn't it?
I looked at some of the comments on the uh on the mail one and the comments on the Daily Mail are usually absolutely awful.
Um uh oh no I was looking at a different one, sorry, never mind.
Uh was it this judge's one actually?
Sorry no, not that one.
Uh that one yeah and Dave sums it up perfectly.
So they want equality in areas such as equal pay, but when it comes to justice they want more lenient treatment.
And that's exactly it.
That's that's everything about feminism.
It's just having your cake and eating it.
But like you said, it's this sort of thing that's um it is really the problem.
I mean who the fuck is on this judicial st studies board?
Who is saying this?
You know I I'm I'm just trying to look up see who it is.
There's a clear clear difference between the way men and women are treated by the law and this is why I get annoyed at feminists and the like because it's a clear injustice and yet they they apparently are all about equality for everyone and then they never mention it.
Why did I never mention it then?
Feminists my ass.
Yeah.
If it it's so obvious that what they're saying about wanting equality for men and all that sort of thing is just transparent bollocks.
There's no no getting around it.
I'm just I'm just googling the um the judicial studies board and it's surprisingly hard to find.
Probably just like the family court sort of secret.
Yeah, it it's I mean I found judiciary.gov.uk which is apparently it but I don't I don't know like who's on it.
Who are the judges?
That woman that walked I mean I bet you she's oh basically I bet you see this the other seventeen convictions I bet you most of them were men because she knows she can get away with hitting men, you know?
Oh this um this woman who glassed um seven people um seventeen well actually only glass one guy but she's yeah.
But seventeen previous convictions for a sorry.
Things you wouldn't think looking at her just that I you know, I mean I'm just as guilty as anyone else, but she doesn't look like she's much of a threat.
You know?
That's the trick, isn't it?
I wouldn't be thinking yeah exactly.
I wouldn't be thinking to defend myself from her.
But you're not allowed to though, because then you would be the bad guy and you would go to prison for that.
Yeah, I mean look at look at that guy's eye.
He was told apparently it was millimetres from taking his eye out and it fucking looks like it.
Jesus Christ.
Honestly, I th th this is just one of those I I'm wondering if it's one of those sort of moments when everyone realises that yeah women women don't really deserve to have quite so much leniency.
Well, let me just send you another one because this is just so sickening, man.
It's unbelievable, right?
Talking about women getting off, right?
This is the one I'm sending you.
You put that on the screen.
Just ask everybody watching: if a man done this, even if it was to another man, would he walk, right?
Here's the link.
There's the link there if you want to put that up.
As you can see, woman who stabbed 18-month-old girl while she was attacking child's mother walks free from court.
She stabbed an 18-month-old girl while attacking her mother, still walks free from court.
How is this possible?
If a man done that to another man and stabbed the child he was holding, would he walk?
Seriously, would he walk?
That is insane.
Happens all the time.
The child who was in her mother's arms during the attack with a knife suffered a two-centimetre cut to her cheek and an injury to her forehead.
The other 27 the other her mother was hurt in the abdomen, chest, arm, and scalp by some mental who was going at her with a fucking knife.
That's insane.
Shows a picture there.
This was in Ireland.
Yeah, what was the reason that she got a vagina, I think.
Dublin court, judge, oh, there you go.
Judge Mary Ellen Ring.
There you go, that's a clue.
You've concealed a three-year sentence suspended at Fooley on condition that she remain supervised by probation and welfare services for 18 months.
And I'm sure that's what would happen with a guy.
Oh, yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying.
He'd go to three years, probably five, seven, maybe.
You know?
He'd have got the time.
Oh, without doubt.
This is sickening, man.
And the thing is, this is just like a small article in the Irish Mirror.
It'd be international headlines.
If some guy attacked a young mother holding a baby girl and wounded the baby girl, I mean, that would be like internet hatred on the guy, wouldn't it?
It'd be a meme and it'd go around virally and everyone would be like, oh, this guy's such a scumbag.
I hope he dies in prison after being raped in the ass too many times.
And it would be double attempted murder.
Yeah, yeah, it would.
I mean, how does she not?
Oh, fuck knows.
I don't even.
Telling you, man, Vaj, it's cause of the Vaj.
They're not to put women in prison.
You know, that's what the judges have been told.
This was in 2010.
It's now 2014.
So those judges that were told that are now not putting women in prison.
What a surprise.
They were doing as they were told.
It's incredible.
And then, right, this is what...
I wish the orders have came from high up.
That's what I think.
Yeah, absolutely.
They've got a conclusion and they're trying to reach it by changing the system to eventuate that conclusion.
And this is what Captain Andy and the Mangina Brigade all piss me off about.
Oh, women have got such a bad deal in society.
It's like, do they?
Do they actually, though?
You know, you're not taking any time to actually look at what's happening and say, is that good or bad for men and women?
You know, it's toxic the way this propaganda gets spread.
I mean, the fact that if these were like random bloggers, right, I wouldn't care.
I would just take the piss out of them, right?
But these are judges, you know?
I mean, and politicians, they're doing it as well.
They're totally biased in favour of women.
It's disgusting.
Absolutely disgusting.
That's what I meant when I said to him that we live in a feminist system.
And it's like we really do.
You know, it's incred just gynecentrism.
It's just fucking bonkers.
What else is that a pitch?
Well, they make the rules because there's more of them.
And as Michelle Obama said, we're smart and there's nothing you can do about it because there's more of us.
And it sounds like a threat, doesn't it?
You know, if you try to fucking say anything about what I'm saying, we'll all gang up me.
You know what I mean?
Shut the fuck up, man.
She should be cow.
I wonder if she suddenly realises, you know, why I don't like the idea of female bosses.
Call me a sexist if you want, but I've had very few female bosses who have been good bosses.
You know?
I've had very few male bosses who have been good bosses, but the more good bosses I've had have been male.
I don't know why that might be.
I'm just looking through some of the things that I had.
I don't know what to read.
Oh, yeah.
I like this one.
Rape culture is everywhere our children can see.
Your favourite movie.
You were cut off there.
Do you know that?
Oh, was I?
No, I didn't.
Right, you've had about 40 seconds, roughly.
Oh, right, okay.
I was just waffling.
So, yeah.
Rape culture is everywhere our children can see.
Watch your favourite movies to prove it.
Because, yeah, beauty and the beast, rape culture.
Unreal.
Say anything.
When John Cusack's character shows up at Diane Court's house in the middle of the night, boom box in hand, it's not romantic.
In fact, it's stalking.
In crazy stupid love.
In crazy stupid love, a 17-year-old boy gets the hots for a woman, you know, and he keeps asking her out and stuff.
And again, where is it?
It ends with.
It ends with since when do people get rewarded for stalking?
You know, again, stalking is just and the fast and the furious.
Women are treated like objects.
The stalking thing, it's weird.
They don't seem to understand that this is a romantic comedy made for women.
You know, like fucking Twilight and Edward's weird stalkerishness.
Women like the idea of having stalkers, apparently.
They just like the idea of having stalkers they're attracted to.
It's attention, isn't it?
Yeah, absolutely.
But it's not just attention.
It's like you are the most special of special snowflake attention.
You know, you're so special that I can't do anything but pay attention to you all damn day.
And it's like, good God, that's a lot of work.
Yeah, the fast and the furious one.
If it was a hot woman, I don't suppose I would mind a stalker, you know, but she'd have to be a hot woman.
And she'd have to know when I'm done.
This Fast and the Furious one is just unreal, man.
Again, it's like rape culture because the women in it are seen as props, just like the cars.
In other words, the women in it are attractive to heterosexual men, therefore they keep being treated like objects.
But they also make a lot of money looking pretty, you know?
Good for them, I see.
If a man enjoyed it, it's a bad thing.
Oh, that's it, isn't it?
That's it.
That's exactly it.
Yeah, I really do think that's exactly how the feminists feel about it.
It's great until a man's getting off on it.
And then, no, that's misogyny.
Tyler Perry's Temptation.
I did think this was a joke, though.
You know, when I first read the start of it, I thought, oh, this must be a joke.
You know, these films we rape culture.
But when you look at the author and other articles she's written, it's not a joke.
She really is that fucking much of a social justice warrior, if you want to call them that.
Yeah, she's Zelena Maxwell.
Her recent articles include Ways and Orange is the new black shatters racial and gender stereotypes.
Brilliant.
What's really like to live the d a day in the life of an American woman?
I'm sure that Somali women are reading this going, Christ, they've just got it so bad.
So bad.
Seven actual facts that prove white privilege exists in America.
I think we should read that.
Click on that.
Let's see what that says, man.
All right.
So white privilege is a concept that far too many people misunderstand.
These are the same people who argue that white privilege is made up, that people of colour and others who work to point out entrenched social injustice are complainers.
People of colour aren't unfairly discriminated against, the argument goes.
They're just unwilling to work hard and get ahead.
Or maybe it's their inner-city mentality, to quote Congressman Paul Ryan.
See, now, I can see why they think that these people are talking shit, because I don't want to presume to say that I know what it's like to be a black person in America.
But there is also truth to what Paul Ryan has just said there, though.
You know, that's the thing.
It's that both sides have got a good point.
So, yeah, I don't know what the answer is, but I think this is why there's always going to be this kind of divide.
Well, there is, I was actually going to do a video on this, you know, that it was about the white male privilege.
You know, I believe that there are privileges for white people and for men, but the people who cry about it wouldn't like what those privileges are.
Let me give you an example.
I brought a wheel list down, right?
Well, sure.
Yeah, this one here.
I mean, you're less likely to be arrested.
Statistically, you probably are.
You know, that probably is a privilege.
But is it a privilege, though?
Because the thing is, do you not just get arrested if you've done something wrong?
It's more where the police.
I'm sure there's times when you get arrested for, you know, and there are some country police, right?
But I don't believe it's as bad as it's made out to be the way they say the police are racist and stuff.
I really don't believe it's as bad as they say.
Are there racist police?
Yes, of course, there will be.
But I don't think it's like one big giant gang, you know, or we all hate black people, let's make them suffer.
I really don't think that's the case.
It's just mental.
I think that it's a confluence of a few issues.
I think that the fact that the issue of non-whites in America has been so turbulent, and along with the destruction of black families, the marriage rates are the lowest, I think, if I recall correctly.
And that obviously leads to poverty.
And then kids raised in poverty are really going to be a bit au fait with crime.
They're going to be like, yeah, it's fine, I'll steal if I need some money, sort of thing.
And it's not a black kid thing.
That's a poor person thing.
A lot of my cousins are quite poor, and they're not particularly different, and they're pretty damn pasty.
And I'm not saying that there wasn't an institutional bias.
And I don't want to say that there isn't now, because there might be, but I think it's more to do with them being an identifiable group that are easy to sort of pick on.
I mean, how many black billionaires are there championing these causes?
Not all that many, compared to white billionaires championing their causes.
No, but so yeah, I think it's ki it is kind of institutionally racist, but not out of a desire to be racist.
On that black billionaire thing, I don't know if you remember Chris Rock talking about this, right?
It was really, really I don't know if he had a point because I'm not from the black community, right?
What he said was that the difference between white rich people and black rich people is white rich people keep the money we white people.
Black people don't keep the money with black people, they give it to other people, you know, and they don't help their own community.
That's that's what Chris Rock was saying.
Like, for example, he said the white man would build a a shopping centre, you know, with his money, with his millions, but the black man doesn't do that.
And I'm not saying that this is Chris Rock, I'm just saying I don't know if he's got a point because I'm not from the black community, but maybe he does have a point, you know?
Yeah.
I think he might.
I mean, that guy T made a good point.
Police presence is higher in inner-city areas which also have high crime, and I think that's due to the high poverty, and they have high minority populations, and therefore there are more arrests of minorities.
Racism, he thinks, has got very little to do with it.
And I think that that is true, but I also then think the institution just cuts corners when thinking about the concept.
And so it just becomes a kind of lazy sort of ah to black IA is probably not because they hate black guys, but because statistically they have on their books, oh, black people, you know, we're catching a lot of black criminals, you know, whereas I do suspect that they spend a lot less time in suburbia with all the middle-class white kids who are probably committing crimes of their own, you know.
I've got no doubt, you know, that they are.
They're selling drugs as well.
Yeah, they're selling drugs as well.
Exactly.
It's all the same stuff.
And so they do end up with statistics that make them look kind of racist.
And they probably do have that as a bit of a shortcut in the mind.
But I don't think it's out of any.
I don't think it's necessarily out of hatred.
I mean, for some, like you say, it will be, but I'm sure for others it's not.
Well, while we're on this topic, right, can I talk about what I was saying to you earlier about being racist, right?
I want to ask people watching.
There's 123 people watching, right?
So what I want you to tell me is, am I racist?
The other day, right, I was watching a Smurf Vlogs video, right?
I like Smurf Vlogs, right?
But he was talking about these two white guys, right?
And he was telling us that these two white guys are going around poor black neighbourhoods, right?
Going up to black men and telling them a racist joke or a joke where I even seen the prank, right, I thought they're fucking crazy, they're going to get themselves knocked out or they'll get fucking shot and that's a crazy thing to do, right?
Of course.
But then I thought, hang on, if that was two young black guys going into a poor white neighbourhood, going up to white men telling them jokes where white people are the butt of the joke, I don't actually think they'd be in danger.
So therefore, am I racist for thinking that the white people would be in danger telling black people jokes where they're the punchline?
Whereas I don't think the black people would be in danger if they were telling white people jokes where white people were the punchline.
Does that make me racist or just a realist?
What do you think?
Well, I personally think that it probably makes you a realist.
I think that it's something you've just observed rather than, you know, rather than you I don't think you've adopted the position because they're black.
I think you've adopted that position because you've consistently observed it.
And I think that it's probably something to do with the culture, you know, just the sort of gangster, tough guy culture that they have to fight a lot.
But maybe that's the maybe that's the way the police are looking at them as well.
Do you know what I mean?
The way I'm looking at them.
Maybe that's the way the police are looking at them.
And maybe there's something there.
I don't know.
I'm just suggesting.
I don't know.
Yeah, well, it's possible.
I mean, again, very little very little about any of this has anything to do with race, really.
None of this is like dictated by race.
Anyone in this anyone put through the same position, you know, put through the same circumstances would exactly you know turn out exactly the same.
So it's it's not about race dictating anything or any innate property race.
I haven't seen it the other way about, right?
But see when the prank because even I did watch the prank, right?
Somebody mentioned there, they got a knife pulled out on them, they got a gun pulled out on them.
Most of the guys immediately reacted with violence.
They didn't react with words.
They reacted by punching them or kicking them or surrounding them and chasing them, you know?
This was the reaction.
Not of all of them.
I noticed that they weren't like that.
They just laughed.
So there was a big difference between young and old.
When did the sort of nuclear family sort of become out of style for black people, though?
Because I think it happened...
Sorry, there's a siren going past it.
I think it happened before it sort of started happening in white families.
You know, that seems to be a very recent invention, whereas black families it seems to have been going on for longer.
But I'm no expert on this one.
But I think a lot of these sort of things, though, I do think that they're a symptom of fatherlessness, aren't they?
You know, the older black guys don't do it because they've had responsible parents to look up to.
And I think a lot of the younger ones probably do.
That's the biggest problem.
That might be an entirely black community, isn't it?
Lack of fathers.
What do you think?
The biggest problem in the black community?
Lack of fathers.
That's the biggest problem in the black community.
I think so.
Yes.
I think it's going to be the same in every other community.
I really think it's going to be the same problem in every other community.
One of the things that pisses me off most about feminists is just like the complete disregard that they have for any kind of observational skills.
I mean, the people with the healthiest emotional and just psychological mindsets that I've ever met have all come from just two-parent households.
All of them.
Every single one.
And the people with the worst psychological defects that I've ever seen have come from single-parent households.
Or violent, you know, like, you know, just messed up home lives.
And it's one of those things that I just get really frustrated that everyone's like, oh, you know, the feminists are like, oh, you shouldn't, you don't have to get married or anything like this.
And it's just like, no.
You personally might not need to, but your kids kind of need you to.
If the mother reacts with something she doesn't like the child doing by hitting the child, which apparently happens a lot, then according to Stefan Molyneux, it happens a lot.
Then the child is going to grow up thinking that's how you react to things you don't like by hitting people.
Well, I'm kind of yes and no on this one.
It's more about the application of the hitting.
You know, if it's arbitrary, then yeah, of course, it's going to be like, well, it doesn't matter what happens.
I'm just going to, you know, you hit people.
But if it's a punishment for doing something that you know to be wrong, I'm less inclined to think that kids grow up violent because of that.
But if it was happening all the time, I'm saying that what they're learning is Because again, the thing I watched with Stefan Molyneux was something like up to six times a day, mothers, single mothers were hitting their children.
They said, I think up to six times a day, and over time, the child might think, you know, that's how you react when you don't like something.
And I think that many times is a bit fucking much.
I understand, you know, you have to kick their ass every now and again, but only when it's extreme, you know?
Fucking hell.
Yeah, absolutely.
When I said that, I was thinking maybe once a week, if you have to.
You know?
I was thinking back to my own childhood.
It's like, when would I get a smack?
And it'd be when I'd done something particularly wrong.
And I kind of did something particularly wrong about once a week.
And I was thinking that's, you know, that's probably the most reasonable.
I mean, six times a day.
Isn't that just child abuse?
But it may not be a batter, and it might be something like a slap of the back of the head or something, but still, it's hitting getting hit off the six times a day.
So there's on to say, didn't you share your observation of how mothers shouted at children?
It was just the other day.
In fact, it's nearly every fucking day I take my son to schools, primary school, remember?
And the way the mothers are talking to the children, you know, fucking move.
Get in that fucking line.
You better not embarrass me.
Things like that.
And I'm like, I don't know how they can speak to their children like that.
I would never speak to my child like that.
It's fucking out of order, man.
And the thing is, if they speak to their kid like that all the time, are they wondering why the kid never responds to it?
You know, the kid just, it's completely normal.
Nothing to be...
God knows.
I'm glad I'm not the child of a single mother.
That's all I'm going to say.
Fucking.
I don't know.
Should we go on something a little more light-hearted?
I sure.
I've got a video for everyone to watch.
And it's about three and a half minutes long, but I want you all to watch it all because the point I want to make at the end of it is predicated on you watching the video.
But I think it'll be gripping enough for everyone because it's just so fucking annoying.
I dig your style down.
Now, this girl was no fool, and she gives me a dirty look with the quickness.
Like, oh, you must be stupid.
So I'm looking at myself, like, oh, you must be stupid.
But looking upon her, I am kind of feeling her style.
So I try again, but instead of adjusting her properly, I blurred out one of my fake-ass playalistic lines, like, girl, you must be a traffic ticket, because you got fire brain all over you.
Now she's trying to leave, and I'm trying to keep her here.
And so with a final attempt, I've got her, girl, what is your ethnic makeup?
And somehow she manages to make her round eye because I'm looking some kind of round fire or something, but there's no snap or head movement, no bomb to face, click a tongue, middle finger, bullet eyes, a girl power channel.
She just glares at me with these burning eyes and her gaze, grabs me by the throat, and she says, ethnic makeup.
First of all, makeup just an anticipized, colonized, commodified utility that my sisters have broke up to consume.
Four things to cover up their naphthalstein or dynamic when another sister was like a hernaphosphate, because people can tell me that the other sister natural state is more beautiful than the first sister state.
At the same time, the other sister isn't even in her natural thing because she's trying to imitate yet another sister.
So, in actuality, the natural thing that the first sister was trying to imitate wasn't even actual in the first place.
Now, I'm thinking, damn, this girl's kicking knowledge.
But meanwhile, she keeps spitting on it, like, fine.
I'll tell you about my ethnic makeup.
I would foundation, not that pathy stuff.
I was the foundation laid by my indigenous people.
Right, so that was this thing on Upworthy that really, really pissed me off.
And I closed it because something else started playing all of a sudden without me asking it to.
Now, you heard that twat just going on and going on and going on, right?
Well, the upworthy article then goes, yeah, so this was recorded by a woman effectively.
It's just like, how can you say that she did all the work there?
You know, even the even the mangin was just like, you know, just happy to give it.
I wish I hadn't just closed that fucking link now.
But yeah, and it was just the sort of tenor and the tone of how, even though it was clearly the guy doing all of that work there, and she was just literally sitting there pretending to speak and then kind of looking the other way, and you know, the minimal amount of acting she was doing, all of the credit went to her for that.
And it's just like weird.
That just really pissed me off.
And yeah, and just the manginarism of it's just this next generation coming up are really effeminate.
Every time I see it, they're really effeminate.
It was hard to understand what he was hard to understand what he was saying, but that is something I always think when I see guys like this, see those guys that were talking about white privilege as well.
It's always the same thing, I think.
That is what I always think every time.
Every single time.
I just think of Bill Burst shouting, what a fag.
Yeah, me too.
I think that actually does make us part of the patriarchy, though.
I was thinking about this.
It's like, what is the patriarchy?
I guess what the patriarchy is, is turning sort of males and females into men and women.
It's turning them into adults.
It's a way to blame men for everything.
Patriarchy is a society run for and controlled by men.
Therefore, everything is men's fault.
Well, I know that that's the definition that I was going with as well.
But I was thinking, you know, if feminists have got their own definition of patriarchy that includes women in power, then obviously it's not patriarchy by any normal standards.
But if they're convinced that there's a patriarchy, it's like doing something to them.
I can only assume that it's the process of becoming an adult and realizing you have responsibilities and the world isn't catering towards you personally.
But I would have thought that was the eventual result of what they're calling the patriarchy.
I mean, I don't know.
It's just, I just find it baffling that they can say these things and be serious.
You know, so I'm trying to figure out how they look at it.
If you want an example of how the patriarchate is to blame for everything, then just click on that link I just sent you, right?
It is astounding.
It is astounding, right?
The heading of the article is I wait to put it up so people can see it as I read it.
Why do so many straight women prefer penetration to oral sex?
And anyway, it goes to the end, right?
Let me just read the end of the article, which is sums it up, right?
The larger issue seems to be one of normative sexual expectations, especially for women who have sex with men.
Scarcella sums it up well.
It all relates back to misogyny and how women feel about their bodies.
That's why straight women prefer penetration.
Patriarchy, basically.
Have we got a video?
Should we watch a bit of this video?
There is a video at the bottom, but I've not watched it, so I've no idea.
No idea what it is.
We've been up.
No, no.
It's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
It's just.
I mean, penetrative sex.
So what?
Yeah, well, yeah, who gives a fuck?
But she found that 55% of straight women preferred penetration to just 25% of lesbians.
Surprisingly, 25% of lesbians like penetration, and 75% of lesbians don't like penetration.
I think the clue is in the word lesbian.
Maybe.
They don't like cock for fuck's sake.
Of course they like the penetration.
I think the one, the 55% must be higher.
There's no way it's only 55% of women that prefer penetration.
Straight women, no, there's no way.
No way.
That's a way up to the 90s.
Easily, man, women love cock.
I agree.
Yeah, I maybe they were just like, well, in preference, as in, you know, it could be like, you know, 99 or 100, which one's, you know, 99, which one's 100?
I don't know.
But yeah.
I'll send an invite to Dr. Rand McCann.
Random cam.
See, he's up for joining us yet.
Excuse me.
He's probably working or something and getting home at nine, I'd imagine.
Oh, I don't know.
I told him to wait for an hour off so we could have a bit of a nap.
Sargon is using MS Paint.
Who doesn't?
Oh, God, yeah.
Thing is, I take a lot of screenshots.
And MS Paint's very convenient to take screenshots with.
It doesn't take any time to learn.
I think so.
It's all sorted.
It's all just simple.
I'm no kind of artist and I don't do any kind of art in any way.
I use paint quite a lot.
The only time I don't use it is when I need to brighten a photograph because then I just use Picasa.
But other than that, I use paint all the time.
Yeah, I tell you what, your gender studies videos, man, they're just fucking amazing.
I'm not joking.
It's the small details.
It's the small details like having Matt Binder and what's his face of the dogs sat next to them in the schools.
Jibes.
Honestly, fucking amazing.
You should get chenking one of them.
Thank you, man.
Get chank.
Oh, I chank.
Well, see, see, there's I was thinking, I was thinking of making a change, right, about the gender studies videos, if I can talk about them for a few minutes, right?
I've got one made, right?
But there's a second one I'm making.
I've already told you about this anyway.
There's a second one I'm making, and that second one has a special guest, right?
Someone who's agreed to do audio for me, right?
But because I don't have that audio yet, I don't want to put the first one up because then it's like, you know, half a video, if you know what I mean.
It's not two parts, but it kinda is.
And I don't want to put it out until it's ready.
So I have actually got another two written and I've done my audio.
I'm just waiting.
You know, that's all I'm doing is waiting about, and then I'll put them up.
But I was thinking of making a change, right?
You know how I've got that running, running joke with Julia?
You know?
Whenever she speaks, well, whenever she speaks, nobody can understand what she's saying.
And, you know, and then the following person says pretty much what she said only in Engl in clearer English.
Well, I was thinking of changing her to one of two people, right?
But I'm not sure.
It would just be equally as racist as with Julia, right?
It would be the same joke.
Nobody would understand them.
And the two people I have in mind are either Sue Park, because then I can do the love me long time type of accent, or Beyonce, which is my favourite choice so far, because I think I can get a lot out of her, especially that kind of, you know, really heavy ghetto slang, you know.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
I was thinking, or maybe just keep Julia, but I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know what others think.
Donald, I'll let people in the comments let you know what they think.
Yeah, for me, the fine details really perfect.
One of the things is I love whenever they say something sensible, Dorkin or whatever her name is, just like, you know, oh, I'm going to, you know, you'll be expelled for that or something like that.
You know, just a really disproportionate threat.
I absolutely love it.
That's exactly what they're like.
That's what I imagine.
I mean, you'd think it was exaggerated, but people have commented on them say these and said that's actually quite accurate.
The way, you know, anybody brings up any kind of common sense, they're immediately shut down.
You know, and I don't imagine that's the way a lot of them go.
Yeah, they absolutely are.
They're fucking and this is being taught in universities up and down the country, internationally.
I'm sure it won't have any negative effect on the future.
Right, I don't know what Dr. Sorry.
No, no, go on.
That thing you're going to talk about later, about the men in school, boys in schools.
You know, it's kind of related to that, where they keep going on about all these numbers that there's more women in college, you know.
And it's like, yes, but look at what they're doing.
They're doing like gender studies and, you know, you know what I mean?
They're not exactly going there and coming out all engineers and fucking doctors for Christ's sake.
It's nuts.
And the ones that are literally quitting being engineers.
Yeah, we'll do that video in a bit.
I noticed that Dr. Random Camera's with us, though.
Hello?
Can anyone hear me?
Oh, is he with us?
Is he with us?
Excellent.
Excellent.
Can you hear us?
I can hear Doctor.
Can you hear me?
Yes, I can hear the doctor blowing up.
You can hear it.
Awesome.
I'm coming through loud and clear thing.
Awesome.
I didn't know.
I can't believe you're just bringing me right in, and I've got nothing to say, but I do.
Can I just answer that guy T?
That guy T just asked, do students really say miss after every statement in Scotland?
It's miss or mister?
Yes, sir.
In our schools, primary schools and stuff.
Yes, sir.
Yes, miss.
That is the way they talk.
They're a lot more polite up there because we didn't down in England.
How are you, Doctor?
Yeah.
Pretty wasted, because that's all I can really do.
I'm glad you guys have got things to talk about.
On weed or booze?
Booze?
How this is slanderous, sir?
I'll see you hang for this.
So tell us, whereabouts are you from?
Doctor.
Hello?
In a weird sort of triangle across England.
The southeast and then the north west and then the northeast and then the southeast again.
So it's all and my dad's Scottish and my mum's Irish.
So yeah.
You can't put me in a box unless that box is the UK and then yeah I'm right inside the box.
sorry go on I was going to say if Scotland get independence does that mean your dad has to leave your mum that's a deep question good fella that's a deep deep question one which I don't quite have an answer for Jacob Gibbs yeah you know I was actually thinking of changing the blackboard into a kinda like a projector so I could put pictures up.
Oh that's a good idea.
You know what I mean?
Or I could put videos on it.
It doesn't have to be for every lesson.
Like they projector when I was at school and they wheeled out every now and again.
So Dr. Random McCann, what started you making videos then?
Well it was s seven fucking years ago.
It was you know you but YouTube had only been around for a couple of years and I thought well I'm bored here.
I've got some guitar chicanery to play so I'll just put it on YouTube.
And I did.
I've been in the shadows ever since until I introduced the evil people into my channel.
And that you know suddenly got popular.
So you are actually a men's rights activist aren't you?
Well yes.
And a women's rights activist.
No, that's I'm not but the point is you would I'm trying to find good answers to this question, you know what I mean?
Yeah I know what you mean.
I'm not trying to nail you or anything or anything like that.
I'm just you know you would actually identify as a men's rights activist.
Well not that there should be any shame attached to that.
It's just there is.
That's the fucking point.
You know what?
I deal with words and semiotics and all this nasty business and I know how tricky it is.
So you know I answer these questions occasionally.
I've gone over this in my videos, you know what I mean?
Yeah, of course.
I've watched quite a few of them now.
I do like your piss taking.
Likewise, you know, you were one of my inspirations.
So it's nice to be told that.
So yeah, so what sort of involvement do you have in men's rights activism specifically?
Well, not a great deal.
Until the Honey Badgers let me join in, and then I did some other stuff.
And then there was that one video that Dean made for the fundraiser for the thing.
And he said, you want to be in it?
And I went, yeah, I'll be in it.
And after that, I thought, well, shit, what did I just do?
I was in a promotional video activating for fundraising for men's rights.
So I thought, well, I can't really get around it now, can I?
That's not just advocation, that's activism.
Yeah.
So I thought, well, that's.
But again, it's just words.
It's just fucking different words for essentially the same shit.
So it doesn't matter.
But you have to talk like it does matter, because to a lot of people, it fucking does.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I get accused of being an MRA all the time.
And I, you know, I suppose by the feminist definition of what a feminist is, I probably am an MRA.
If you advocate for the rights of men, then you are a men's rights advocate.
This is by that token on that sweet mate.
Well, put it that's right.
If you went on a shooting spree tonight, what would they call you tomorrow?
They would say you were a men's rights activist.
They would, yeah.
They would.
Oh, God.
It seems so easy to show people that men really aren't having the wonderful time in society that feminists are painting.
So I do find myself I can see why a lot of feminists call me an MRA because I'm just if and this is what I always say to them.
I always say, look, if women were in this position, I'd be you know advocating for women.
You know, if women were five times more likely to commit suicide.
There's countries in the world where both genders are in trouble and women's rights advocacy is as necessary as men's rights advocacy.
Absolutely.
It's just we live in a huge fucking swathe of land over here where it's a bit skew whiff, you know.
Absolutely.
Where did I see it the other day?
There's an article of a guy finds out that three of his four kids, it was from the Toronto Sun.
Guy finds out three of his four kids aren't his, and the court rules that he still has to pay for them.
I mean, what kind of decision is that?
It's just a legal system, Sargon.
It's nothing to do with all the socio-political equipment people are really looking for.
Once you understand.
What possible excuse is there to do that to someone?
Unless you're viewing them as some sort of terrible white oppressor agent of the patriarchy.
So yeah.
So I can, yeah, I mean, I understand the need for men's rights activism.
And like you say, in certain countries, there is absolutely a need for feminism.
It's just not feminism.
Women's rights activism.
Sorry.
Yeah, okay.
Feminism for shorthand.
No, no, not even shorthand.
Very, very different things.
Yes, I appreciate where you're coming from.
You know what I mean.
It's very possible that they've always been very, very different things, is the point.
Yeah.
One of the ideology ones a human rights movement.
I don't see the complication other than the complications we insist on putting in there because of our language barriers.
Yeah, I'm absolutely with you on that one.
I did a video that I haven't uploaded because it's remarkably assertive and I'm asserting things directly.
It would be a letter to feminism, basically, and all feminists.
Listen, these are things you have to understand.
And oh no, I can't remember what I was going to point out from it.
But I've been really unsure about uploading it because I don't know.
I just I think it would just be met with absolute bafflement from them.
Just you know, they're so deep in their ideology and they believe in their own bullshit that the idea that anything that you know I could be saying could be right and what they're saying wouldn't be right.
You're only ever going to hit a certain bit of the spectrum, you know.
Yeah, I think that but I don't think they're ever coming back.
You know, I think that guy T was right when he said it's gone to the dark side.
Some of them have, some of them have, but it's it's finding that you know barrier, that boundary between the ones who are long, long gone and the ones who can be reasoned with, you know.
Yeah, I wasn't really thinking like individual feminists.
I was thinking feminism, uh sort of mainstream feminist culture, you know, the culture of feminism.
Yeah, but that's that's malleable, isn't it?
That doesn't just flip from one thing to the other.
It's it's a a super organism of some sort.
I agree.
Uh but I I don't think it's ever coming back, even though it could.
I d I just don't think it's going to.
No, no, it's it can't be healed.
It can't be fixed.
It's got it's got to be cut loose.
Yeah, it's it's kind of frothing at the mouth or at the clam and uh you know I think it's gone.
Yeah, it's gonna be a generation or two before we stop hearing from you know the fucking vultures because they're gonna be there in the background saying give us more shit, we're still here Especially since they're all in government and bloody universities now.
Yeah, so it's, it's a long haul, it really is.
Yeah yeah, what do you think?
Good feminists?
I like to target those women and I do quite a lot actually, especially in the comments and stuff and on Facebook who say that they're feminists but don't really know that how bad feminism is.
I like to go for them because I think you can change their mind.
You can't change the mind of one of the hardcore ones I.
I do.
I try quite a lot and I was, you know, like in in one video of fucking, over a hundred comments or something, and it was just on my comment, me pointing out you know that it was a wee Chinese boy and I said, feminists want this wee boy to be taught not to rape.
And the amount of comments I got from these women who said they were feminist.
But when I pointed out to them, actually you're just an egalitarian, you're not a feminist.
For what you believe, you're not a feminist.
So I prefer to target them.
It's easier, more chance of success.
I think it's always.
It's always easier to try and pin down what they believe rather than the definitions of the words.
If you see what I mean, I agree, I agree that's, that's a.
That's a huge barrel of shit to take out of you into.
I was literally going to raise this point next.
Actually we, we need some sort of term for those people who aren't the dictionary definition of feminism, you know.
We need some neat way of encapsulating what they are so we can say it and people can learn what that word means, egalitarians in waiting, something like that.
Because they're they're not feminists, that's for sure.
When you point out things to them like um like, for example uh, slut walk right yeah, there was a.
There was a woman saying to me that she was a real feminist right, and the ones I was talking about were not real feminists.
And I said to her, well, why do you go and look at a slut walk and look at the placards that they're holding and then tell me that they don't hate men?
And she thought this woman that called herself a feminist thought that this, a slut walk, was a term.
I made up for a group of women and she came back to me and said, why are you calling those women sluts?
And I was like I didn't fucking call them that.
They called themselves that.
Yeah, they brought that entirely on themselves.
Exactly Jesus, but yeah, so.
But the thing is, I think that I don't know it just, there seem to be an awful lot of people who are more than willing to call themselves feminists because a feminist has been like.
Well, the dictionary definition is equality blah blah, blah.
Place they fucking go, isn't it?
Yeah, I know.
Well, the dictionary definition of Nazism is just the merger of corporate and state power.
Yeah okay, it kind of includes some other things, though the definition of dictionary is that it tells you the right definition, so it can't possibly tell you the wrong definitions, but yeah, so we need some sort of word or term that that that I know.
That kind of means person who thinks they're a feminist but doesn't understand that feminism also includes loads of bonkers, man-hating, bullshit.
I think Karen sort of nailed it by.
You know, we coffee shop sorry, can you say that again?
Not feminists are those ones who talk about equality.
Don't really, you know, believe in this whole patriarch and rape culture, nonsense.
Yeah, Do actually start this bullshit.
That came through kind of echoey on mine, so I didn't catch it.
Can you say it again, please?
Oh, fuck's sake.
I think it's like an action.
It's in and out, in and out, in and out.
We can hear you, we can't hear you, we can hear you, we can't hear you.
It's not just mine, then it's bollocks.
Okay.
No, you're ready now.
Do I keep talking?
Is it?
Yes, yes.
You can tell, but it's definitely okay.
Awesome.
And now I've forgotten what I was talking about, so say something else.
Yeah, David Bush, I think, yeah, coffee shop feminists.
Yeah, okay.
So, yeah, these are like the Protestants of feminism, are they?
Well, the Anglican Church of Feminism, sorry, yeah.
You've gone out again, man.
The hardcore ones don't believe any of that shit anyway.
You know, like if you've got Lisa Green, she doesn't believe, she doesn't believe what she's saying.
Who?
Lacey Green.
Not just her, but Anita as well.
They don't believe what they're saying.
They're just making money from what they're saying.
Do you know?
I think they make a part of their brain believe it.
Yeah.
And that part just takes over.
Yeah, I think it's psychological training or like thought training, where you could, you know, if I wanted to, I could probably spot racism in practically any interaction between a black and a white person if I had certain categories that I could place interactions into, like worst-case scenario categories sort of thing.
And I think that's what they do.
They kind of, how can I assume the worst about every interaction in this example sort of thing?
Or the best.
There's that kind of racism as well.
There's people who are always sycophantically trying to impress other races.
That's the sort of method of thinking I think they learn in these gender studies.
If a man shakes a woman's hand, then he's part of rape culture or something.
If you see, if you look hard enough, you will find that video and how that's a misogynist game because you can spell words like housewife or misogynist.
You know what I mean?
That's how pathetic they are that I'm surprised they've not done that yet.
They give you points for the word housework.
You know what I mean?
Disgraceful.
See, Philip Armstrong's just asked, what are our opinions on Jessica Valenti?
She's another one.
She just says what she has to say to make the money.
You know?
I can't believe she believes half the shit she says.
She's deliberately looking for things to complain about because she gets paid for this, remember?
I think she has to find something.
Jessica Valenti seems to occupy one of the upper rungs of the feminist sort of intellectual elite.
There seems to be a special space reserved for people like Jessica Valenti, because I think she actually does believe.
And that's why Jessica Valenti is successful with feminists, I think.
She knows the pattern, obviously.
She knows, she's been indoctrinated really, really, really thoroughly to the point where I think she's the zealot rather than just a con artist like Sarkeesian.
Hmm.
She g she can hold theory on board and and consider it red.
Whereas Sarkeesian starts right from the beginning and builds a tower entirely made of bullshit.
Fresh bullshit as opposed to solid fucking clay bu bullshit foundations.
Yeah, absolutely.
Valenti is she's going to be very lonely when she's old, but she she'll have lots of she'll have lots of justifications, feminist justifications why she she's just the victim of the patriarchy and what could she do?
She only wrote for The Guardian.
It's not like she didn't have a voice.
And yeah, her fucking male voice.
If you want to be lonely, Jessica can be fun at times.
I'm going to set you two up.
I'll teach you how to be lonely properly, Jessica.
Right, I've just just having a look to see if we've got any other links that I wanted to go through.
I've got a couple of videos, if anyone's interested in watching them.
I've got there was this one behind.
Sorry, say again.
Sorry, schools, not university.
Hey, are you watching it later, maybe?
Oh, the BBC one.
I think I might have closed it, you know.
Oh, no, I've got it.
Sorry.
Yeah, okay.
So yeah, we're we're like 17, almost 18 minutes into this BBC Newsnight presentation.
The rest of it was about Iraq, which we won't go over here.
And yeah, it was what did she say in the beginning?
It was something like, you know, why are young girls doing so much better than young boys at school and why should we care?
Or why should we care that boys are failing or something like that, didn't she?
I think the two women put her in her place, so at least try, you know.
I haven't seen it.
I like the two women are there.
Or have you not seen it?
No.
No, no.
Tell me, just if you want to make a comment at anything they're saying, just say and I'll pause it.
Cool.
So.
Or it's A-level results time.
They came out today.
Overall grades are slightly down with fewer A and A star grades.
But that might not really matter because there are a record number of university places available.
An extra 30,000, which means that even some of the most elite universities are offering forces to clear them.
I mean, that that in itself is really indicative of a much larger problem, isn't it?
You know, if there are literally 30,000 more university places than usual, I mean, that seems like an awful lot.
What do you guys think?
Does that sound normal?
I mean, is that you do this live, don't you, Sargon?
You fucking do this live.
I do do this live.
What do you mean?
I don't do this live at all.
No, I really.
I just yeah, I just like go along as I'm thinking, you know, just as I'm watching it.
But um all right, I'm gonna try.
Oh, yeah, sorry, did you want to say that?
Sorry?
It's like we've created our own little panel game on fucking T V or something.
I'm quite liking the idea, to be honest.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Parents will be congratulating and commiserating with their children about their university choices.
It's a decades-old story, but there's a wrinkle.
Sons are now a bigger problem than daughters.
Outside Scott, A-levels are the main entry qualification for university.
This year they were taken by around 260,000 18-year-olds in England, Wales, and Northern Ireland.
That's about thirty-eight percent of them.
And so today is the day when the university reforms are very obvious.
The key plank of those reforms are that universities should be able to expand so they can compete to win students to help us along.
30,000 extra places are being funded this year.
An increase of 10%.
And that will rise by another 30,000 git.
Are we learning how to ride fucking gondolas?
Who's learning how to push boat across a fucking...
No, that's not how it works out.
Apparently this is when patriarchy actually did.
I wish I'd gone back to the bottom.
Now this is hardly the first big population by the age of 30 rocketed from around 5% in the early 1960s to around 35% by the turn of the century.
This was a legacy of a report from 1963 written by Lionel Robbins, an eminent economist, which advocated a big rise in the university population.
Will bigger numbers mean lower standards?
Not ah, problem coaching.
Now are people see am I the only person who thinks that bigger numbers mean inevitably lower standards?
I don't know about that.
It's all about who's well and a length and who's well and numbers means everything that smaller numbers doesn't mean.
I don't know what that means.
But I am quite drunk.
Well this is what I mean.
If when you have smaller numbers only the people who really really want to go to university are going to end up going to university aren't they?
Because it's going to be more work.
So like you're going to surely going to end up with loads of people who weren't really that committed to university but it was there it's convenient and they do it.
So they're going to half-ass it aren't they?
Yeah.
Well half of the point of university is being sort of halfway between home life and real life.
I suppose that was never that was never supposed to be the point but that's sort of what it's turned into isn't it?
Yeah.
Halfway world between reality and completely not reality.
Yeah I mean I'm just thinking my own university time and I'm looking back I'm really the sort of person who shouldn't have gone to university.
There was no benefit in it for me.
You know I didn't do anything.
Well that's what I'm saying.
My only benefit was the fact that it got me out of the fucking house.
Yeah absolutely.
It was the reason I left home.
But yeah it's not about higher learning now it's just about getting kids out of the home.
Jesus.
The recent school of universities is probably picking this demonstrations of disorder and fees and liberal democrats.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
The cap off used rows and rows, most recently, to £9,000 in 2012.
But at the same time I mean £9,000 whole pounds?
You know, that's not all that much.
And, you know, who do they think's going to pay for it?
This is, I suppose, like the libertarian anarchism thing that they keep talking about in the men's rights movement.
But I can't help but wonder, you know, where they think the money's coming from.
Am I the only one?
I mean, fucking students, honestly.
And I was one.
Participation loads, too.
Since these came in in the late 1990s, the story of growth and higher education has been similar.
The previous story was more and more young people on their way to university.
And interestingly, the growth is particularly concentrated now among people from less well-off background.
And we've seen that in today's data from UCAS with 8,000 more people from the sports background on their way to higher education.
Still, there's quite an unusual gap here.
Underground admissions are one of the few areas where women dominate.
44% of 18 and 19-year-old women go to university compared to only 35% of men.
And that gap is rising.
So far, today, UCAS, the admission service, says there have been 172,000 exceptions for men and 225,000 acceptances for women.
What I want to know is, right, of all those women, there are the numbers right there.
Of all those women that are in college or university, how many are doing useful degrees?
Are they learning anything useful that will help them and society?
And how many of them are there just to look for a husband?
Seriously.
Yeah, well, there was that.
Didn't some woman in the US write an article in a paper about how to get your husband at university?
Yeah.
And I suspect there probably are.
And sorry, people about the volume of the video.
That's actually at maximum.
It's not on YouTube that this is playing, so I can't make it go any higher.
But yeah, but what percentage of them are in anything really productive?
What percentage of those women are STEM field entries?
And then they go on, oh, women earn less.
Well, yeah, they do earn less.
Because when they get a useless degree, they can only work in Tesco's.
That's what happens.
Yeah.
Yeah, or in The Guardian.
Fucking Tesco volume.
But see the numbers, though, right?
I have to say, right?
See, as long as everybody is allowed to go and there's no barriers in anyone's place, I don't care if it's 95% women and 5% men or the other way around.
I don't care.
As long as everybody's being treated fairly and there's nobody being discriminated against.
It's not like they're saying men aren't allowed to go to university.
Maybe there's other reasons why men don't want to go in high numbers.
Maybe they'd rather work.
You know, a lot of men, including myself, would rather go and just work, you know, and try and get a trade or something.
You know, but not everybody wants to go to university.
And a lot of men also have to work because they've got children.
So they've not got time to go to university and they have to bloody work.
Yeah, it's life choices, isn't it?
You know, and it's only feminists who make a big deal out of these statistics.
You know, they're the ones who're obsessed with it.
The idea of that gender is the decider is, I find baffling.
Well, if you took everybody, if you took all those same numbers of all the people that were at university and you split them into blue eyes, green eyes and brown eyes, there'd probably be more people wear a certain colour than another one.
Why does it matter?
Why does sex matter?
I'm sick of being oppressed by people with brown eyes.
Me too.
Absolutely sick of it.
Thankfully I'm left-handed, which is something like 70%.
Oh yeah, yeah, we're singular and intelligent and we make up basically the ruling class over you peasants.
Bun that we fire.
Kill it the fire.
The left-handed master race has already won.
I'm short-sighted.
There you go.
I was racking my brain trying to think of something that's wrong with me.
There.
All you fucking not short-sighted people will rue the day.
You fucking thrust us short-sighted people.
I'll tell you what.
I oppress you with my long vision.
Yeah.
More women going to university than men, uh, and that's not surprising given the economic uh I guess landscape outside of the higher education sector for women because he sounds like he knows what he's talking about systematically, women earn less in the workplace, particularly when they don't have a degree.
So, it's not surprising that women feel like they have to go to university to best themselves to in order to compete with men on an equal level.
What a fact, but I have to say, right?
That this guy is basically saying that women feel they have to go to college in order to be able to earn more than men because they don't earn enough.
He's basically blaming it on the wage gap, which doesn't exist.
These women want to go to college for other reasons other than I need to sort that wage gap out.
No, I don't think that's on the list of reasons for going to college.
Yeah, exactly.
He really looked like he was reaching as well.
He was just like, Well, I don't know, you know, it could be anything.
Why have they got someone this young on it?
I don't trust anyone who's this young.
I don't trust him to know what he's talking about.
This guy's a kid.
Maybe it's schooling, maybe it's the choices about careers that women and men make.
Still, it's a rare area of public policy where women do better than men.
Better being you know being in that field.
That's that's what better is the number of women doing it.
You know, he's not commenting on how successful the women in that area are doing or how successful men are, just the numbers.
That's the better of it.
That isn't better, that's just numerical superiority.
But to the average idiot, right?
To the average idiot, if you tell them those numbers and say, Look, more women go to university and yet women earn less without going into the details, that does sound terrible.
That sounds fucking awful, but with the details, it's like, oh, well, fair enough.
Yeah, it's it's deception by omission.
Chris Cook reporting, Well, Mary Kernet Cook is being head of UCAP and Alice Burtz is president of the Girls Club.
I love her, and they're both here with me.
I don't know who she is coming in.
Mary, if I can start with you, it's more like young men aren't choosing university as much as women, because actually, further down the line, they enter what is still clearly a man's world where they get paid more and they seem to find it easier to fucking stupid cunt.
The picture that we see today from mission control, if you like, in Newcastle.
So, yes, 400,000 people placed today, but 50,000 more young women than young men.
And what we see now is that women are a third more likely to enter higher education than men.
In fact, women are more likely to enter than men are to apply.
And surely that can't be a good thing in terms of balance in the potential for young men, women and young men, and their future career and life.
Do you know anything about why that's happening?
Why the choice is made?
The background to this is that young men are not getting the achievement coming out of secondary school.
So the pipeline comes from this reminds me of the sort of thing I saw in the 70s.
You know, I didn't personally see it, but video from the 70s.
We've got some old newsreader, you know, three old white men sat around asking why women aren't going to university and stuff like that.
I'm going to try and find it at some point, just for the comparison.
And it just goes to show how far things have changed, really, doesn't it?
That it's three women talking about why men aren't joining.
So it's like, why don't you get a man to ask his opinion?
You know, it might be slightly more male-centric.
Because they're talking about men, and yet they've got two women and a female host on the show.
Odd.
What would they know?
All they can see is the statistics.
They can't give any insight into the decision-making process.
Not that I'm saying I can speak for other men, but I can probably.
She does go on to say, she covers quite a lot.
She knows what she's talking about.
Right, okay.
You prove for admission to higher education is worse for young men than for young women.
Women reach level three, a level equivalent, at the same level that young men only reach level two at the moment.
But why does that happen?
I mean, is it really the fault of the schools?
Is it something in young men?
Is it just that young women actually have an expert educationalist?
But what I can tell you is that young women perform young men right through the school system.
So through primary school and secondary school, and surely the potential of young men is somehow being let down through that system.
And of course, we see it in university administrators.
But what would you do among like hard plans and proposed committees?
Well, I think somebody needs to look very carefully at this issue.
We can see that while the gap between you, well, I don't think it's UCAS's job.
What we're using is the evidence that shows that there is apparently you could advocate for change.
You could stir for change, couldn't you?
Well, that's kind of why I'm here this evening.
I mean, we want to see a sex balance without leaving the woman.
There's probably a better university on campus.
But how do you do that?
I mean, in practical terms, what does that actually mean?
Because clearly, the young men aren't really listening to lots of people saying you're not getting as far as the girls.
They're in school, they're watching the girls outperform them.
What can you actually do?
Fuck me, that woman hosting's annoying, isn't she?
Yes.
She's basically saying.
She's basically saying to that woman, why don't you do what you're already doing right now?
I love the, you know, shouldn't you be advocating for that?
Well, yeah, that's why I'm here, idiot.
You know, I bet she was just exactly what I'm doing.
Yeah, you know.
But this is really pissing me off.
I mean, it's just like this is just women saying, oh, what should we do for the men?
It's like, why don't you just stop being biased against them?
You know, that sort of thing is probably a good start, I would have thought.
But maybe that's just me.
Did you want to say something, Randoma?
You forgot about the patriarchy, dude.
How did I forget the patriarchy?
Oh, no.
How did I leave classes?
Oh, yeah.
What?
Well, because patriarchy.
Yeah, it's the eternal answer.
Somehow it's the patriarchy that's making boys fail in school and university.
I should have thought.
I should have thought.
At least they're talking about men, I suppose.
At least they're talking about them.
Yeah.
They're throwing their hands up in the air and saying, fuck, we can't do anything for them, but let's just go blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, on the air.
But she does say, though, she does say what should happen.
She goes on to say what should happen and more male role models and stuff like that, you know, in primary schools.
Okay.
It's important to have a look at what the underlying causes are.
They must be to do with teaching and learning.
They must be to do with curriculum or qualifications or the assessment regime.
But for some reason, boys are coming through school and not doing as well in our group as girls are.
Alice, I mean, you come from a girls' school's perspective at the moment, but you have also taught boys in school too.
Through your expertise, what do you think the problem is, and therefore what the solution might be?
One of the problems might be if we go back to what's happening in our primary schools and the sources of male role models as teachers, because if you're going to go into the educational context as a child, I'd be inspired by the grown-ups around you.
You want people who are suggesting to you as a small boy from whatever background that educational learning is fun and to have a male role model there is going to be helpful alongside the female ones.
This is a very interesting point, and I'm not entirely sure I agree with it, but I don't disagree with it at the same time.
The other woman was she was like, for some reason, boys are just doing poorly in the educational system.
And as if this is some ethereal, untangible, intangible reason that no one could ever really put their finger on.
But honestly, I just think it's something to do with the way they're being taught.
Literally, just having them sit down for hours on end and rote learn is obviously giving them ADH fucking D.
It's better for girls than it is boys, that type of learning.
It's not stimulating enough for boys.
Boys need a bit of stimulation, you know?
Exactly.
See, you know exactly what the problem is.
If they had one man on this program, he'd be able to tell them.
And the thing is, there used to be a lot more sort of physical education for boys, back 100 years ago, sort of thing.
Especially in upper class schools.
So it's very obvious that the school system is very well designed for girls who are naturally kind of conformist.
And I know I'm making a sweeping generalization, but I swear to God, most girls that I knew in school were very conformist.
They were, you know, and I fucking sound like some sort of jaded generation Xer now.
But the fashion industry proves that, though.
They all dress the same at the same time.
Yeah.
The fuck.
School isn't just a place of learning anymore, is it?
It's got its own little community in there.
It's got its own little, every school's got its own series of soap operas between this going on.
And that's also, you know, a world where girls thrive in more than boys.
For pretty obvious less of you.
Drama, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
She's talking about getting more male role models in primary schools, right?
I talked to the teachers in my boys' school, and I get that, and they're all women, by the way.
And I get this impression that they also want to work with men.
It's not just they want male role models.
Women like working with men as well, you know?
But you could just imagine, right?
Imagine being a teacher in a primary school.
You're a woman and you work with all, only other women and children.
How are you going to get a decent conversation all day?
That's true.
Good drama.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
Samantha Brick ran her all-female company, didn't she?
Until it completely collapsed under the weight of its own fucking hysterical drama.
Was she real?
I thought the Daily Mail made her up or something.
I'm aware that she is a real person and that she really ran her company comprised exclusively of women and it was a complete disaster.
It was everything you'd imagine.
I wonder if history will remember any of this like it remembered all the other matriarchal societies.
Yes, I'm trying to think of one.
I saw um on Exposing Feminism, the Facebook page the other day.
They they posted um, you know, like a picture of the statue of David and it's like art produced by patriarchy, the picture of the girl dropping heads out of a vagina yeah, this is what matriarchy produces and say yeah that's, that's.
That's pretty, pretty succinct.
We know that there are many, many very strong female role models, but increasingly fewer and fewer male role models at the earliest age.
I mean, obviously that's a very sensible suggestion, but there must be more that you could do further down the line.
I mean, as young men are approaching A levels and are being given careers advice, something is falling a little bit short, I think.
You think we could have much more positive discrimination if we were talking about this as a fucking more positive discrimination.
I love how she doesn't understand that positive discrimination is the reason for this issue they're now discussing, you know, and is it?
Does that sound like reverse racism?
Is it just another kind of discrimination?
Affirmative action, that's right.
It's affirmative action for a certain group.
She's seen give men affirmative action to get the numbers of men up in universities, which is just beyond ridiculous.
Nothing stopping them.
And where does this end at?
This seesaw game of, oh no no no, women are slightly more now.
Oh, men are slightly more now.
It's going to go on forever obviously, isn't it?
You can't have free choice and have these things that they want.
There will always be a gap.
Same way, there will always be a wage gap.
It's insane to think those numbers could ever be the same, absolutely equal.
It's insane.
Yeah, why would you even?
I mean, why is that the end goal, isn't it just?
You know you want the opportunity, take it.
I don't know baffling.
They got to 50 50 in university numbers and they kept the fuck going.
So why would?
Why would they not keep the fuck going if they got to fifty, fifty?
However, they got there.
Yeah, they're not responsible, are they?
You know they didn't stop when they got to fifty percent.
They just kept going.
So, different socio-economic group or cultural group or whatever, then I think we have already had in place some kind of positive discrimination and helpful schemes, but people seem to be wary of saying, boys, let's do it for them.
Well certainly, I mean, if you take this story as it starts, it's actually a great celebrity day for girls and women, and there was a time not that long ago when actually it wasn't even thought worthwhile to educate women at all.
So I think we should be very careful we don't imply in this, these statistics, that it's the women's fault, that the men are falling behind what the UK has organization does, and it's been a very tough day for Mary's organization.
I'd like to thank her for all the work they've done today.
It was much appreciated.
But they gathered this data.
Of course.
Now the data's here, we can work with it.
So what would I do?
I think that I'd be turning to the Secretary of State, the new Secretary of State, who I hope will listen to serious educationalists, gather together people who have succeeded with these various minority groups who struggle and there are head teachers out there and they're very strong on that record and get them to talk together and frame a policy and a plan.
And is there ever a place of something as bold as much weaker offers for young men approaching A level results?
That isn't really the problem because it is in the pipeline.
Actually the acceptance rate for men into university is a smidgen higher than it is for girls.
So it's not about the admissions process.
It's actually about what's coming through.
But I do also think that Alice is still- But you could change that, surely, couldn't you?
I mean there would always be a place where you could say, you know, here you've got a girl who's got two A's and a B, but actually we need to get more boys into the system, we'll take some of the two D's and the C.
Well if you if you haven't got the cohorts applying in the right numbers, I don't think that's really the easy solution.
And I think Alice's suggestion about more men in teaching in primary and secondary school is really interesting because there's a lot of initiatives to get girls to do science and computer science and s STEM subjects.
But what about the huge imbalance in the number of men going into teaching and social work and nursing, which are massively a much bigger gap the other way around?
Why are they talking like they have to have it?
This is I know some people can't hear, but what they're saying is, you know, oh, you know, there's a huge imbalance of men going into nursing and teaching.
And it's like it just doesn't appeal to them then, does it?
Well, she's trying to expose the double standards, isn't she?
If we're trying to get girls into engineering, why aren't we trying to get men into nursing?
Well, I hope that's what she's doing.
But it's more the sort of she seems to agree that we do need to have absolute parity in all of these issues, in all of these vocations.
And I don't really see why that is.
What's special about someone's genitalia?
Can't we just have people who are good at things in those things?
Radical.
Why would anyone do that?
Meritocracy?
Meritocracy?
You mean patriarchy, don't you?
Well, I was thinking about this, right?
Maybe that's what they mean when they say patriarchy, because if men are more inclined towards hard work, and I think it's reasonable to say that men are more inclined to really buckle down than women are.
I mean, if you look at overtime statistics, that makes me think that they're always in the top jobs and all that sort of thing.
So if that is if that was naturally a male trait, and it was, by contrast, naturally a more female trait to not want to work hard and do more domestic duties and whatnot, then running a system that was entirely based on merit could be well construed as a patriarchy then.
In this particular species, arguably.
Yeah.
So I mean, maybe that's what they're saying when they say the patriarchy.
It means if you want to get to the top, it requires hard work, and hard work's a male thing, and they're female, so it must be a patriarchy.
No, when they say patriarchy, they mean men.
They just have lots of very, very, twisty ways of saying we don't really mean men.
Yeah, they mean men.
Yeah, no, no, I mean, there's also more reasons for men to work, though.
Men are under more pressure to actually go out and work than women are.
Yeah, no, I agree.
But what I mean is, like, the reason that they can believe it, I think.
I think a lot of feminists do believe in the patriarchy.
And I'm just wondering if it's because what we try to operate under is a system that is basically based on hard work and merit.
achievements, accomplishments So what you're saying is if everything is fair it looks like men are favoured Yeah Yeah, exactly.
That's exactly it.
Because they see working hard and achieving, because men don't get any shortcuts either.
They have to achieve everything on merit.
And if they're the ones doing that, that is an inherently male thing to do in their mind, I think.
There are, of course, women who do this, but I think that the minority of women.
Well, I think men build and women decorate, as some kind of adage goes.
And the thing about buildings is they stay there, and the thing about decorations is they don't.
So buildings remain visible and decorations don't.
So women's contributions are more fluid in history and indeed in the present day, and men's are more, well, concrete.
Yeah, but the system itself, success in the system, is predicated on building them, not decorating them.
The most lucrative careers are all building something out of nothing.
And if that is something that men favor over decorating, and that's where success comes from, I think that's how they think it's a patriarchy.
Because it would be more naturally inclined towards male success if success was predicated on how great the building you made was.
You know?
Yeah.
And so I think that might be what they think that might be the reason they call what we live in now a patriarchy.
I was thinking about this the other day.
What do you guys think?
No, you've got a point.
I definitely think you've got a point.
Because if everything is fair, and it's not us I'm not having a quote woman, but men do better and I want more fields than women do.
And it's just the way it is.
Better in more visible fields, is my point.
Yes.
Well, because I mean, I have to say, I would prefer a female nurse.
I think they're better at that job.
Yeah.
So I would say that.
That's the thing, isn't it?
But nursing doesn't produce anything.
So it's never.
I prefer a female midwife, definitely.
Yeah, absolutely.
If I was popping a baby out of my dick, I'd say, no, get actually, no, shit.
I'd have a man on that problem.
Yeah, exactly.
I think it's a female gynecologist as well, if I was a woman, you know?
Yeah, absolutely.
But that's the point that none of these careers that you've just listed are particularly high-earning careers compared to software engineer or something of that sort of ilk because they don't produce anything to sell.
Surely a gynecologist makes a few bob.
Yeah, but he makes a few bob because he's a doctor.
He doesn't make a few bob commercially.
He doesn't produce anything to sell, which is where wealth comes from.
Individual wealth comes from.
The system and I mean, I don't understand how you could.
I mean, you'd have to create a communist system the other way to equal it all out.
But I think the argument that that utterly stifles innovation is true.
I don't see why you would try if you didn't have any tangible rewards.
That's the reason I'm making a video game, because I want some tangible rewards, so I'm putting the work in, you know.
But I'm doing that because I'm hard-headed and I want to achieve.
And maybe that's being driven because I'm a man.
Maybe that is the patriarchy favouring me because I'm driven to succeed, whereas women are driven to sort of, woe is me, the world's against me.
Not all women, obviously.
Doesn't use any voice talent in the game.
Well, I'm not going to rule it out, actually.
I've been compiling a list of people who I might ask to do voices.
I've actually, yeah, we might well do, actually.
We're probably going to need a woman who can do a good impression of a feminist.
I don't know when.
So yeah, I've kind of, you know, I'd email Claudia Berlin, but she's got me on some block bot.
She blocked you, eh?
It's this automatic block bot.
I wonder if I'm on it.
I'd love it if I'm not.
I should harass her, shouldn't I?
Don't harass her, but ask her if she wants to do a hangout sometime with me and Goodfellow, because we'd love to talk about that.
It's not me threatening to hurass.
Oh, God, I've done it now, haven't I?
Yeah, that's it.
You're going to jail.
Jower 65.
Maybe we do.
I'm not talking to her ever again.
So, Jawa, send me a message.
I'll speak to you.
Because it's never a bad thing to get contacts with 3D modellers.
But yeah, so yeah.
Have you got any other interesting links, Goodfella?
Let's see here.
Well, I've got There's one with a the lotto rapist remember I sent you that today.
I'll put the link in the thing so you could put it up on the screen.
That's just unfucking believable man.
Basically the story is right I'll put it on there.
You can put it up if you want but uh lotto rapist forced to pay compens.
Right, so a guy he raped right then about twenty years later he won seven million on the lottery.
After a four-year court battle, she was paid one hundred thousand pound to the woman that he raped, but she had already passed the time I think it was six years when you can what is it from Criminal Injuries Compensation Board?
I think it's got to be within six years.
You make a claim, but she didn't right and she waited till twenty years later, made the claim and the law basically changed the rules so that she could sue a rapist who won the lottery after it's.
It served his time, it served his his, he's done his time yeah yeah, absolutely.
You know, and although he's a rapist and he's he's a bad person, he still, he got lucky, he won the lottery.
She's not entitled to a penny of that money, but yet she wants some.
Why does she?
Why would she even think she's entitled to it to start with?
And yet the courts take her side.
Well, the the Criminal UH Injuries Compensation Board awarded her five thousand pounds uh, before he'd won the lottery.
A six-year limit aye, from the time of an offence in the appeal court.
But yeah man, then yeah, so uh, figure one was hundred thousand pounds.
Jesus, someone um, shoe on head for the game, and I think that they're absolutely right.
She would be fucking amazing.
Our last video annoyed me a wee bit, but I still like her, you know.
Yeah well, what was it in?
I I did watch it, remember it was um updated, she called it and I just it just annoys me when I actually mentioned this in my the video uploaded today.
It annoys me when women who are obviously hot as hell because she's fucking lovely, by the way um, say things like, uh oh, I know I don't look too good today, you know what I mean.
It's like, oh, shut the fuck up man, and you look as fucking hot as you could get and you're sitting there.
Obviously it's like she's fishing for compliments.
That's what it sounds like to me.
I would like to think I was wrong, but that bugged me man, that fucking.
I hope she she stops that immediately and starts going back down the other, that you know where she started, because that feminist video she made was brilliant.
Yeah, I think that's just a woman thing though, isn't it?
A lot of women do that?
I I agree that it's.
It's not wonderful or anything.
Um, it's just a performance fishing for compliments, you know.
But sure enough, though.
See, when you look through the comments, loads of thirsty men.
Oh, you look brilliant, you look great, don't worry.
Do you know what I mean all this fucking time?
Yeah, the thirstiness of men these days is definitely.
It's so embarrassing.
I find it really painful.
I see it all the time on Facebook, all the time.
And it's guys that I've got respect for in other circumstances.
It's just like, why?
When a woman posts something desperately begging for a comment, you don't comment.
You stare at her.
You do, you say something rude.
Like if she says something like, you know, oh, I don't look at my best today, then say something like, ah, you're fucking right, you're a mess.
Rather than, oh, no, no, you're fucking lovely.
Because that's what they want.
Don't give them what they want.
It's pathetic.
It sort of does depend a bit.
some girls are genuinely insecure and some it's a fairly small percentage of them you know but Some of them try hard because they're so insecure, and some of them try hard because they're control freaks.
It's a fine line, but it's hard to tell which is which.
I think I've just been criticised on my English by a Frenchman.
Thirstiness.
Yeah, you're right.
Thirstiness isn't the word.
I'm making it up.
What would be the word then?
Thirst?
Thirst.
Thirst I had it.
Okay.
This isn't thirst because thirst implies liquids.
What we're talking about is pussy.
So I'm coining thirstiness.
Well, hang on now.
That's kind of liquid.
Yes, that's true.
You guys know what I'm doing.
This pussy is liquid pussy.
See, I bet if I just went to the women's section of the Telegraph, there's plenty of shit on it that's going to piss me off.
If it ever goes there.
There's a link I've posted in you.
It's basically this whole article.
It's asking for unfair treatment, right?
Domestic violence refuge provision at crisis point warns charities.
See, the thing is, a lot of domestic violence refugees are being closed because they will not take in men.
You know?
This is the reason, yes, because it's against the rules.
You're not allowed to discriminate.
I know that a lot of them don't take in men because my sister works at one and she told me that they don't take in men.
It says they're being forced to shut by some local authorities because they do not take male victims.
And then it goes on to say, oh, this puts women and children at risk.
And it's like they're basically saying they should be allowed to discriminate against male victims of domestic violence.
And as I always say, if they have to be banned from domestic violence shelters, let's ban female wounded soldiers from the facilities that help them.
Same thing.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I'm just reading this now.
It's just like the Home Secretary Theresa May recently told a meeting of women's groups in London.
Oh, yeah, go on, this will be interesting.
A great deal of ignorance about the way domestic violence services were being commissioned by local authorities.
What does that even mean?
I mean, what am I supposed to draw from that statement?
There was a great deal of ignorance about the way domestic violence services are being commissioned by the local authorities, which is why they're shutting some down due to discrimination.
What?
She's basically saying they're ignorant of the fact that women don't want men at these shelters, you know?
And it's like, well, too bad.
That's like saying you don't want men at the hospital.
Too fucking bad.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's absurd.
It's like if you saw domestic violence from a particular race of person and you can't say, I don't want anyone of that particular race in here.
say, well, deal with it, please.
You've crossed over to racism there, don't you?
Don't do that.
I don't think the men who want to go in these shelters or have to go into these shelters.
I don't think they're saying we don't want women there.
You know what I'm saying?
How is it different for men?
I thought women could do anything a man could do.
I think they're probably also terrified of having men around because men are probably triggers for them.
But I thought you were going to say that the men who go to these shelters are probably no threat at all to the women there.
And I can't imagine that a guy who goes to a domestic violence shelter is going to actually domestically abuse a woman that's staying there.
I know.
It's ridiculous, isn't it?
Beggars belief, doesn't it?
But surely it would do her good to be around men who don't hit her, to realize that not all men are like that, you know, and that she can be.
Because if she doesn't want to be around men, then they can't let her outside.
You know what I'm saying?
Men's are put in fucking prison.
Wouldn't this end up as some sort of dating service?
You know, they'd stay in a hostel together and they'd realize that they've got a lot in common.
They're both abused and they can talk to each other.
They can be sensitive to each other's feelings, you know, because they know what it's like to be in that position.
Magnets for professional victims as well.
These places might also be sort of magnets for professional victims of both sexes.
Whenever they think they're being domestically violated, they go, I'm going to the fucking shelter again.
And maybe some men will do that too.
Because there's dickheads in both sexes.
I think it's clear that men only want to go into domestic violence shelters to abuse the woman there.
I think that's pretty obvious.
I think we all know that.
Yeah, I clearly.
Yeah, I have trouble imagining a male professional victim, but Generation Y.
Well, no, you do get them.
I mean, you've seen some of these douches, you know.
You just play victim to fucking everything.
Sometimes they're gay, sometimes they're not white, you know.
So it's fucking, there's always, there's plenty of guys who do that shit as well.
There really are.
Through that Southbuck episode of the guy who just slapped his family.
I'm going to flap you so silly.
It's coming.
I do love that episode.
I think these people are going to grow and grow as the waves of feminism roll in.
Yeah, the problem I have with all of this is it's becoming so prolific, it really is actually affecting me in my day-to-day life now.
You know, I've encountered people who I could tell go on Tumblr a lot.
And they're all young and useless.
I'm so bigoted against Generation Y. Do you guys want to chat for a minute while I grab a cup of tea?
You all know.
Well, don't trust what I say as saying dry meat is the worst, but I think you'll find that German sausage is worst.
Oh, God.
Terrible terror.
I should have prepared some jokes.
Shouldn't I?
Terrible joke.
I've got a joke.
Do you want to hear a joke?
Yes, yes, I do.
It might get me in trouble, but I'll still tell it, right?
What's black has eight legs and can be found in the shower?
Prison rape.
Not only have I let you guys down, I've let myself down.
You've let me up, though.
A little bit.
Called up like a Cumberland.
Do you think Cliff is guilty?
Cliff?
Cliff Child.
News to me, what's happening?
Alright, he's eight police at his house because a guy accused him of fiddling with him when he was a boy.
Please!
Yes.
Unbelievable.
It's not related to you, Tree, but they've not arrested him or anything, but this is what there were.
Eight police were in his house searching his house and took some stuff away to whatever, whatever they're doing.
But there you go.
Fucking hell.
Oh, God.
No, we're in the I've only just heard about this story.
We're in the early stages.
There's nothing in my head but just ghouls swimming in a sea of people.
Well, I just think it's like compensation, isn't it?
It's just compensation.
They want a compensation or they want a payout.
That's what it's all about, isn't it?
Possibly.
And, you know, someone wants a story.
That might be another thing.
Someone somewhere wants a story.
I don't know what it is.
It's a bit like a witch hunt.
It's a lot like a witch hunt.
That's what it seems like.
That's certainly what it seems like.
But you can't even talk about it just in case it's not.
You know, I don't like talking about Rolf.
But here I am.
Fuck Rolf.
I know.
It's again.
I don't know, man.
He was put away on words.
There was no actual evidence.
Do you know what I mean?
It's weird, man.
I don't even know how to talk about it in a way that's even slightly appropriate.
You know what I mean?
Just in case.
Just in case.
I don't know.
Well, I did.
I did get a Jimmy Saville track suit, right?
But the thing is, the sizes are strange because the top is an adult's top, but I had to squeeze into some children's bottoms.
Oh, sorry, man.
Oh, fucking thing again.
Why the fuck are you guys asking what's appropriate on my podcast?
Anything's appropriate, for fuck's sake.
That's on the internet for everybody.
You have to be careful.
He doesn't want to get sued by Cliff's lawyers.
I totally agree with you with the Rolf Harris thing, though.
I don't know all that much about it, but like you said, I do know that it's not like any hard evidence has been produced.
Not at all.
And that's what I said to you earlier.
I was like, how are they going to provide evidence of a rape that took place 30, 40 years ago?
No, they can't.
Exactly.
So why even, why dignify, well, I agree that that might have happened and that is your story.
But where do we go from there?
You know, he's going to say he didn't, obviously.
So what now?
Nothing.
You know, nothing can be proven, and therefore, how can these people go to jail just on the hysteria of it?
It really bothers me.
That guy T is asking who our favourite feminists are, right?
Well, I've got to say my favourite feminist is Anita because she is taking all the feminists and social justice warriors for all their cash.
And I just think that's hilarious.
It's fucking hilarious.
Well done, Anita.
We didn't come up with a good answer, but that's a fucking good answer.
What's yours, Randoma?
I haven't got an answer.
I can't believe you came up with one.
Of course I haven't got an answer.
Move on.
Even if it's paper I love to hate, you know?
I don't love to hate.
Oh, you like Claudia, don't you?
Oh, come on, you'd make such a cute couple.
Do you mean Claudia?
No, Panda McCow and Claudia.
Snap her in five minutes or less.
No, no, no, no.
Yeah, I quite like Claudia.
I don't know who my favourite is.
I suppose, I don't know.
I mean, the one I absolutely despise, I don't really hate anyone, but I really do dislike Jessica Valenti an awful lot.
There's something about the naked hypocrisy that really I just riles my blood, man.
Well, you could be talking about any of them now, though, couldn't they?
Yeah, yeah, but not that many of them go around with T-shirts on saying I bathe in male tears.
You know, not that many of the prominent ones.
Sarkeesian wouldn't do that, for example.
You know, she's too savvy.
That might not be a problem.
No, I think, well, she's a con artist.
think she's incredibly savvy you know I think I don't even think has Anita Sarkeesian ever actually called herself a feminist Yeah, she has, yeah.
Has she, aye?
Is she claiming she's a feminist?
Feminist.
So it has, of course, it has.
Well, I think that covers it then.
She claims she's a feminist, yes.
I see where you're going with that, because she does kind of allude as if she's not.
She goes for the I'm impartial angle.
Kind of.
Well, that's what she's trying.
That's what she's trying to sound like, even though she's obviously not.
She's trying to get her work sold to universities and shit or something, isn't she?
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
I like the way that that guy teases Ryan Wiley.
Oh, God.
I do like Ryan Wiley.
Who's Ryan Wiley?
Have you not seen him?
Fucking hell, man.
I'm amazed the amazing atheist is.
Is it worth explaining?
Yeah, it is.
He's this kid who's just done a maths degree.
He's probably like 22 or something.
And he's a really clean-cut, sort of all-American-looking kid.
And he's a feminist, obviously, because how could you not be?
Because he assumes that he thinks that feminist statistics are valid.
That's the thing.
I think that's what makes them male feminists.
They look at it and go, oh, my God, that's awful.
And women are like, yeah, that's terrible.
I'm a woman.
You have to believe me.
And then, of course, I believe a woman because I'm a fucking died-in-the-war mangina.
And so they take to the internet and go, oh, you bad boys against feminism.
You're bullying these poor women and their feelings.
You're so awful.
And he's not a stupid kid.
He doesn't seem like an arsehole.
And I mean, I've seen one of his videos where he's getting genuinely exasperated because they're just not listening.
You know, the amazing atheist, I think, was aimed at.
He's just not listening.
And I don't think it comes from a place of malice with him at all.
So, you know, I kind of like him.
He seems alright.
Right.
The amazing atheist.
Is that a person?
Ryan Wiley.
Oh, Ryan Wiley?
Oh, God, no.
No.
No, he's a tuck.
He's a turtman.
He's a fucking toddler.
I don't think he's that bad.
I really don't.
I think he's just misinformed.
Because I'm an optimist.
I don't know, man.
True stings.
I have no idea whether Steve Sharge responded to my video or not.
I have absolutely no idea.
Did you see Justici Car's video with him talking about the men's five things wrong with the men's rights movement?
Justicika's response video to that is one of my favourite Justicikar videos.
That was a while ago now, wasn't it?
A while ago, I totally ripped him on you asshole in that video.
It was really good.
I'm not surprised.
He makes such fantastic arguments.
And he does it without even trying.
He's just on, talk, genius off.
I should get him on here at some point, actually.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it'd be definitely interesting to pick his brain.
I wonder if he'd ever do a hangout, even with anybody.
I mean, I've never seen him do a hangout.
I don't know if he would do it.
Well, I'll ask.
I mean, he can only say no.
He called into the honeymoon once.
Once upon a time.
Oh, did he?
Yeah, like a year ago.
Hmm.
He was probably good on it.
I'm probably going to end up having a date with him at the end of it, though.
I get the feeling he's probably quite logically persuasive.
I like the idea that I like pretending that he became gay out of just logical deduction.
Just like, hmm.
Being heterosexual is an illogical choice in the current environment, so I'll have sex with men.
Honestly, I could see it happening to me.
I really can't.
But if you could choose, if you could choose, you'd definitely give it a go.
It'd be an easy life, man.
Try everything once.
Seriously, I've always said this to people.
I've said this to girlfriends.
I was like, look, if I could choose to be gay, I would do.
Because I would love to wake up next to someone whose brain I understand.
Just imagine it.
Imagine they get up and they're in a bad mood.
Oh, I know why they're in a bad mood.
You know, that would be magical, wouldn't it?
Or they'd just fucking tell you.
You get those kind of flamboyant, annoying ones, though.
So, you know what I mean?
Sorry, say it.
It would be annoying getting out with one of those flamboyant ones that begin out with a woman.
Oh, hell yeah.
You know, with arguments and stuff.
Sorry, I'm sneezing, so I've muted the microphone in a minute.
Yeah, I couldn't get shot.
I'm pretty sure I'd be a top.
I mean, if it had to be a top.
I'm not sure.
Well, try everything once.
Sargon, M.H. King is asking you: what's your opinion of Stefan Molyneux and libertarianism in general?
I like Stefan Molyneux, but all that political shit bores me, honestly.
God, man.
Yeah, what do you think, Randomer?
It gets to a point where it bores me.
You know, I feel like it has to be talked about.
There's teeny bits of libertarianism that I like the sound of, but it's already an ism, and there's already all kinds of loons all up and down it, so I don't want to jump into it or anything.
I've got some interesting ideas that, if built from the ground up rather than the top down, might just work, but it's getting horribly bogged down with bullshit, as most isms do.
Yeah, it's the problem with any kind of ideology.
They become rigid.
I think Stefan Molyneux is by far one of the better proponents of it.
He talks a great deal of sense.
He does.
But the thing is, there are always parts of his chain of reasoning that I don't necessarily disagree with, but I think he perhaps.
I don't know.
I would need a specific example.
I need to watch a video of his and pick out a specific example of just this.
There are just very fine lines that delineate my opinion on it and his opinion on it when I'm watching one of his videos.
And so that's why I don't really enjoy his videos because there's something about him that I don't like very much.
I said this in my hangout with Psychological Cynic.
I wouldn't want to get into an argument with him.
I wouldn't want to get on his bad side because I get the feeling I'd lose horribly whatever we were talking about.
Well, I get the feeling that even if I don't think he's open to a different interpretation of what he's saying.
I think.
He is, but he has a lot he uh he he's thought a lot ahead of time about how to you know uh present his point in relation to every other point you've seen because he is a philosopher above all else.
That's the thing about a philosophy, it it has a thing philosophy.
No, no, I'm I'm I'm I'm with you there.
I completely agree that that is what he does.
But I think that he thinks that when he's done this prior, that there can be no new information that can change the sort of sequence of nodes that he's sort of built up to form his conclusions.
And so even if like, you know, someone imagine there are like three layers.
The first layer is the sort of idiot layer that everyone is exposed to, you know, everyone sees.
And then you've got the second layer, which is probably like us, you know, the slightly, slightly deeper look at the circumstance.
And then there's the third layer, which Stefan Molyneux likes to inhabit, where he's put together a lot of things to come to a conclusion that's, you know, whatever his conclusion is.
And so when someone approaches him on the first layer, he can easily defeat it with an argument from the second layer.
And then when someone approaches him on the second layer, he can easily defeat it with an argument from the third layer.
But it's when he's approached on that third layer that I just don't think he's interested in ever re-evaluating his position, even though more information about that situation may have come to light, or that, you know, a different view on the circumstance that he's built his view on there may have come to light.
Have other reviews seen his response to the Thunderfoot thing?
Because I've been meaning to watch it all day and I haven't got around to it.
No, what's it called?
I started watching it.
I forget what it is, but Thunderfoot has a lot of time.
Yeah, yeah.
Thunderfoot had something to say about his dispute with Anna Kasparian and his he was on Adam Carolla's side on this issue about feeding your kids and whatever.
And Thunderfoot came in with a comment and I think Stefan Molly had a really long response to it.
I haven't watched it yet.
Really interested in...
What is the comment?
Oh, God.
Um...
I can't remember now, but it was something about reactionary libertarianism.
You'll have to watch the video.
And the link's in the video.
I'll get around to it.
I think he was asking who pays for the police force and stuff like that.
I think he started talking about that, but it was too long.
I tuned out.
Right, okay.
Like I say, I only saw a couple of links and then found a message saying, do you want to be in a fucking hangout tonight?
So I'm, oh, fuck everything else.
Fair enough.
Yeah, that's.
So I'm just looking.
See, this is the sort of thing that I'm talking about, right?
He's got a comment on here.
I will share it so everyone can see it.
He says, you say I'm full of myself, but who am I supposed to be full of if not myself?
And it's like, oh, come on, Stefan.
everyone knows what he's saying is you're being a fucking twat you know you've got to find an in and that in is not necessarily going to be It's going to be a little bit rhetorical.
that's where he loses me I don't really think it's not necessarily a semantic argument I know it looks like a semantic argument, but it's not.
He's trying to pull apart what you're actually saying there.
And it can be interpreted as a bit pretentious, but you go.
What's the rest of the thing he says?
I would like to see Steph debate.
This is a quote from someone, I think.
Oh, no, it's in quote marks.
I don't know why.
I don't know who it's from or anything, but I would like to see Steph debate Stardusk on the issue of epigenet genetics.
I don't actually know what epigenetics is.
I'm just going to look at that.
Oh, it's really complicated.
I don't quite understand how it works.
It's something about how environment affects genetics almost in real time, and it's very difficult to document.
It's the study of g the changes in gene expression caused by certain base pairs in DNA, RNA, or being turned off and turned on again through chemical reactions.
In biology specifically, epigenetics is mostly the study of heritable changes that are not caused by changes in the DNA sequence.
So I imagine this is like the shape of dogs and whatnot.
Yeah, like I say, it's way beyond what can fit in my brain, that stuff.
Yeah, I'm not a scientist, so I don't know.
But yeah, so on the issue of epigenetics, from what I understand, Stadus thinks epigenetics is nonsense and recently called Steph completely full of himself.
I respect both of these men as thinkers and would be very interested in hearing a debate between them on this or any other topic.
Thumbs up if you agree.
I don't know anything about that, to be honest.
It's hard to imagine Stefan Monu debating with anyone.
We've seen him debating with slightly befuddled callers many times.
Many, many, many times.
Yeah, I've seen that.
I find his attitude towards his own callers.
I'd love to see him actually debate, you know, have an actual debate with a peer of some sort.
You see what I mean?
Who would you actually?
I don't know.
Someone who doesn't like libertarians, I should imagine.
I don't know who I'd want to see him debating.
He doesn't have many peers, is the thing.
Like he says, he's got the highest what-evered philosophy show.
Which I always find a bit dodgy, because everything's philosophy, isn't it?
Isn't it really?
Every articulation of a thought is philosophy.
Yeah, I suppose he's talking as a category.
On YouTube, probably.
Yeah.
I'll be interested to have a look at this because I don't always think he's right.
And I do think that some of the base conclusions that he or the base assumptions that he draws from aren't always necessarily sound.
A lot of them sound a little wistful.
When he gets going, he does tend to make a good point.
I'm not saying he doesn't make good points.
He does make good points.
Did you ever see his video, The Truth About Trayvon Martin?
Did you ever see that?
Yeah, that's what that's.
Took a lot.
A lot of people.
That was the one that made me subscribe to him.
It was absolutely brilliant video, so it was.
Yeah, yeah.
What was the conclusion?
What was he responding to?
He just goes through all the facts of the case, you know, and just tells you all the facts of the case and all the facts of the history between Zimmerman and the history of Trayvon.
And it's just very interesting to, you know, have them all laid out like that.
Yeah, he explained how Zimmerman was having his head slammed into concrete and being told he was going to be murdered.
A fact that most of the media just ignored for most of the coverage.
I didn't know that myself, actually.
It fits the narrative.
That's why they ignore it.
It doesn't fit the narrative, rather.
That's why they ignore it.
Hmm.
That's where the story is.
That's where the story is.
But it's the same with that Michael Brown.
Did you hear about that?
That Michael Brown.
The Ferguson.
Yes.
Did you hear the recent the latest that they'd actually robbed a store just before that?
Oh, I did actually hear that, yeah.
Unfucking believable, man.
They make it that he's just wee boy and he's fucking six foot four.
You know what I mean?
And when you see the video, it's clearly some fucking thug.
You know what I mean?
Stop fucking, stop defending fucking thugs.
I deserve to be shot.
But come on, man.
Doesn't it mean he's perfectly fucking innocent because he was shot by a police officer?
It's fucking ridiculous.
I mean, if I was a police officer and somebody tried to grab my gun, I'd fucking shoot them.
I think it more strikes to a deeper issue of the American police, which is actually something I've been thinking about doing a video on.
Because the American police are fucking terrifying.
I would be very worried to have interactions with American police.
Yeah, this is why I worry about going to any conference for men's rights.
Yeah.
Coming into America and then saying, what are you here?
Oh, it's a men's rights conference.
Oh, that's lovely.
Yeah.
Please go this way, sir.
We have millions of people with guns waiting for you.
Yeah, I've seen too many videos of American cops just being just incredibly authoritarian and then resorting to violence and often lethal violence just with no real justification, but just because they've got classifications.
Oh, he's resisting arrest.
Oh, well, it says here if he resists arrest, I can shoot him.
And their classification of resisting arrest was, you know, I don't want to go with you.
They have got to show authority, though.
They have got to make it clear that they are the authority.
You know, they cannot let somebody see them as soft or an easy target.
That's why the police a lot of the time come across like they're pure pricks.
They're not really.
They just have to be because if they're all friendly and nice, people confuse kindness for weakness.
You know, and well, maybe, but I mean, do British police do that?
There's a huge spectrum, and the British police are at the bottom of that spectrum, and American police are damn near the top.
Have you ever been stopped?
They're damn near the top.
Have you ever been stopped by a police just walking along the road?
Have you ever been stopped?
It happens to me.
It's happened to me quite a lot, actually.
And most of the time, they are fucking rude and quite disrespectful, but it's just the way they are.
I don't take it personal.
I know why they're doing it because they don't know that I'm not a psychopath.
They don't know this.
So they don't want to come up to me or friendly and nice.
And oh, where are you?
You know, if it's fucking half eleven at night, you know, and they think I'm up to something.
I don't mind if they stop me and ask me.
I'm not up to any sort of thing.
It's very different in a country where everyone's, well, well, not everyone, but shitloads of people have got guns.
There's shitloads of psychos in this country.
And if there was a chance any of those psychos had a gun, I'd be pretty scared if I was a policeman.
Yeah, I'm not saying that that's not the case, because all those things...
I mean, obviously I agree with you completely.
It's gone way over the top.
Yeah, it's oppressive now, though.
But when's the last time, right, you ever watched a video on YouTube, right, of a police officer helping someone?
You never fucking see it.
But it never makes the news.
They never come on the news and say, by the way, these fucking police officers, I don't know, saved this woman's say that shit.
Because they only focus on when they do something bad.
As God once said to Bender, when you do everything right, people won't realise you've done anything at all.
This conversely is asking for a cookie for doing your job.
That's what they're meant to do.
I don't see why they should have it trumpeted from the rooftops that a cop helped someone today.
Oh, well fucking done.
No, no.
No, but the thing is, but the m the point I'm making is it can make it appear that the whole police force are bad when the only time you see them is when they've done something bad.
You know?
I don't want to suggest it's every policeman or anything like that, but there is definitely a highly authoritarian trend in American police that I think is absent in many other parts of the Western world.
Yeah, it's undeniable, yeah.
Yeah, it's it's uh they are militarized, there's no getting around it now.
Every city has got an armoured car and you know a SWAT team, and they're called out so many times a year because they have them and they never used to be called out.
And and now any kind of any kind of um reluctance to agree with and oft what with what the often arbitrary things this police officer might be saying, because I mean, resisting arrest becomes the issue all of a sudden.
It becomes a paramount issue to make sure that the person understands that they have no no options.
Do they have like obligations to arrest a certain amount of people to get a certain amount of arrests?
Yeah, like we have those here, don't we?
So they have to make sure that I think is utterly disgusting because then they're encouraged to look for people who are breaking the law.
It's terrible.
Yeah, that's but the thing is that's that's the sort of um that's the problem with corporatisation, I think.
It's it's a culture where statistics matter more than they otherwise would have done.
Because like you say, you know, there shouldn't be quotas for car parking attendance, like, you know, and ticket.
Sorry, something, you know, that that's absurd.
But how else are they going to measure whether they're doing a good job or not?
Yeah, exactly.
You know, that's the thing.
They're like, well, we've got the statistics that we can gather, so we'd better use them.
And this is something that's very much leaked over into real life from the corporate world, you know, to the to the non-corporate world, where it's not applicable, but it gets results, measurable, quantifiable results.
And I think that's really something that people need to start having a conversation about.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Maybe we should have one now.
I don't know.
Are we in a good position to have one now?
I'm not, I'm fucking wasted.
Yeah, that might be the case.
Have you got any other good links, good fella?
Well, there is one here from let me see if I can get it.
It's from the Huffington Post, so you know it's bound to be good.
I'll send you the link here.
You've got to send it over to you.
And the article is, here's why dads should think twice before arguing with their wives.
Oh, fuck me, just from the title.
This is pissing.
Or the mother of the children, whatever.
It's knowing that when parents argue it has a negative effect on the kids.
Now new research shows that fathers relationships with children that suffer the most following marital conflict.
Well, of course, because the woman gets the child and brainwashes the child to hate the father, so of course the fucking relationship's affected.
The study published in the the Journal of Family Psychology, so you know you know it must be accurate, analyzed two hundred and three families over the course of fifteen days, at least one child aged eight to sixteen.
But it's basically saying the whole thing, you read the whole thing, it's basically saying that men should just, you know, never argue and just shut up and take any abuse the woman throws at them, you know, and but and and they make it as well that it's only men that start arguments.
It's a fucking it's annoying as fuck man.
No, but from a woman's perspective it probably is, you know?
Oh, of course you know, it's like, why why is he arguing with me?
I'm feeling this.
How can I possibly be wrong in my feelings?
Fucking.
This is a Huffington post for you.
They print this shit all the time, man.
So they do.
All the fucking time.
I'm subscribed to them on Facebook, and my God, every day it's just.
There were probably some around actually.
Look, women is the first thing other than the front page.
This, right?
This was something that I read earlier when I was going to be up.
What it really feels like to be a child-free woman, which I'm sure is just brilliant.
I'm sure so many women are like, actually, I didn't want kids.
But this woman, she's like, oh, I've always known that, you know, when my friends were playing dolls growing up, I wanted to be the class, play the classroom and be the teacher.
It's like, oh, dress up my Barbies in the best fashion to be the most powerful woman ever.
And it's like, oh, yeah, okay, you're the bossy kind.
And so at the age of 24, she began asking doctors if she could be sterilized.
And they were like, you're a bit young.
We're not going to sterilize you.
And so she got to her 30s.
And then they were like, no.
And she was like, why did the medical community continue to deny me my personal right to sterilization?
Personal right to sterilization.
I didn't even know that was a right.
You just stand near a satellite dish or something, don't you?
I don't know if anyone's got the right to be sterilized.
It's a good one, isn't it?
It's like the right to commit suicide.
No, what damage are you doing?
Why should anyone not have the right to sterilize?
I'd fucking love to, actually.
Where do I sign up?
You know, I mean, I'm not against it.
I just don't know whether it's a right.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I suppose the word right kind of gets bandied around a lot recently these days.
I've heard people say things like my right not to be offended.
And it's, oh, for fuck's sake, where do you think this rabbit hole goes?
But yeah, so, you know, she had it done two years ago, and it's amazing, apparently, and it's really empowering, obviously.
And apparently, there are loads of feminists who have had the same thing, which I find interesting.
Because, I mean, almost every woman I know wants kids.
I can't.
I only know one, and that's a feminist, and that's my sister who doesn't.
So I don't know why they kind of why make propaganda for not having kids?
Does it send you another link there, right?
From Salon.
Salon.
So you know that's got to be good.
I hate when my husband tries to be a cool dad.
Why you shouldn't believe the new Jerry News commercial?
Shit, man.
As soon as they make a good advert with dads, the salons on it saying, oh, no, you know, you don't want to try and be a cool dad, because they think in order to be a cool dad, you need to give your kids breakfast, give them dessert for breakfast.
You know what I mean?
As if that's the only way to be a cool dad.
It's fucking ridiculous, man.
I'm going to play the video just so people who haven't seen it can see what we're talking about.
Alright, go for it, huh?
Good video.
Yeah, yeah.
It is, yeah.
You awake?
Yeah, of course I'm awake.
Don't you mask?
I love it.
It's really creepy.
Yeah, good stuff.
Hey, let me introduce myself.
My name is.
I'm proud of it.
And all dads should be.
Why?
You know why?
Kids think we're awesome.
We get our hands next.
See, we tell.
Hilarious jokes.
Hey, Nolan, we gotta get up, buddy.
We never say no to dress up.
We build the best boards.
We do work, work, and we do homework.
We lead by example, we blow their minds.
I know.
That is called a fought twist.
Being awesome isn't about breaking rules, it's about making them.
Hot stuff coming through.
Life and the coffee.
And breakfast is for breakfast.
Hey, Nolan, give me a look here.
Suggestion.
That's a boy, that's a man.
But it's also for lunch, dinner, and midnight snacks.
Scrape knees aren't boo-boos, they are badges of bravery on the playground.
Hey, Victoria, that profile pic?
Awesome.
When you're a dad, hugs can be bear hugs, but they can also be high fives, fist bumps, and next-level handshakes.
Kids, they're our best friends.
They're our greatest fans.
What even getting muscle mass?
Nice.
And they look to us like the same way we look at superheroes up because we're taller.
Now, dadhood isn't always easy.
When a rule is broken, we're the enforcement.
Anybody, it's garbage day.
But when a heart is broken, we're the reinforcement.
And we wouldn't have it any other way.
Because being a dad is awesome.
Just like new peanut butter Cheerios are awesome.
That's why that's where it gets.
Yeah, it's ignored Cheerios for now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the end.
How the fuck can any fucking feminist look at that and go, oh, oh, you're just trying to be cool.
You're just trying to be, you know, a good fuck fucking dad or something.
Shut up.
I hate when my husband tries to be a cool dad.
Oh, yeah.
You hate when your husband tries to get on with your kids and be a responsible parent.
That's awful.
Fuck me.
Can I try and share one now?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is a brilliant advert.
It was only in Britain, so not a lot of people might have seen it.
It's one about dads.
It's really good, right?
Two minutes.
It's worth the watch right here.
I'll put it on.
Right, let's see if we get the share my screen.
Right?
Share.
So is my screen there?
Yes, I'm gonna do that.
Right, so I'll play that.
Can you hear that?
Um, no.
No, I can't hear it.
You can't hear it right a minute.
I think what I'll need to do is, right, two seconds.
There we go.
You hear it?
Yep.
Designed by Thompson.
That's all projected.
Wait, what?
It's very interesting, that I like that because it shows that the guy's basically working hard all year and all that stress, you know, builds up in a nice holiday with his family, clears all that, you know.
I just like that.
It's very nice.
I find it interesting that they would think to make an advert like that, though.
I mean, that must be a sign of the times.
You know, I think someone said put a shrek in it.
Well, yeah, yeah, true.
But yeah, but the thing is, not everyone would have agreed if there wasn't something to it.
You know, if they're looking at society and going, well, men seem really pissed off.
You know, let's make an advert campaign to probably advertise at the mums, to be honest.
You know, look at how much less of an ogre your husband's going to be if you go on one of our holidays.
If you don't bitch at him for the entire time, at least.
Hmm.
Very interesting.
I'm just going to look at the Huffington Post again because there's going to be something for Glutton for Punishment, dude.
I know.
I'm subscribed to them on Facebook.
And have you got something in the meantime, yeah?
No.
Well, glutton for punishment is how we do this, isn't it?
So, yeah, keep going.
Oh, absolutely.
Oh, no, no, that's something I'm saving for this week in stupid.
Are you getting something up good, fella?
I...
There's something I was looking for, and I have found it.
I'm going to give you the.
I think I can share the link here.
That's what I'm doing in it.
Can you see that on the screen?
The little boy who started a sex change aged eight because he and his lesbian parents always knew he wanted to be a girl.
See how sickening that is?
When you see them, right?
Look at them.
Some bitch-looking motherfuckers, them, man.
I tell you.
Fuck me.
Yeah, I'm so sure there was no influence from the from the lesbian parents on that one.
They got a boy.
This is an orphan.
They got a boy, and they basically, I think anyway, convinced him his entire life that being a boy is wrong and bad and evil.
And he wants to be a girl.
And I don't think when you're eight years old, you should be allowed to say, I want to be a girl, because my boy's five and he wants to be Batman.
What will I do?
Get him some fucking Bat Blood or something.
Know what I mean?
Yeah, what the hell kind of, I mean, are they looking at being a girl as some kind of vocation?
It says, ignoring their son's incessant plays simply was not worth the risk.
I don't believe that.
I just don't I don't believe it.
It's just this whole story makes me angry because I know what happened there, but you're not allowed to say it because then you're hating lesbians.
But these those two bitch dykes fucking turned him that way, boy.
His life is ruined.
Testosterone, evil.
Because he gets injections to stop him creating testosterone so he won't get broad shoulders and he won't get facial hair.
You know, it's so disgusting, man.
Makes me dead angry so just this kid's eight years old.
Not to be to reaction was bound to happen eventually, wasn't it?
Yeah.
Somewhere.
No, absolutely.
But that kid was eight years old.
Eight when he decided he wanted to be I and 11 when he's been through it, but still too young.
Eleven.
Isn't that some sort of child abuse?
And the 11-year-old boy is undergoing the process of becoming a girl.
It just shouldn't be allowed, man.
No.
It shouldn't be allowed, man.
I don't think a 20 years should be allowed to do that.
Seriously.
You know, I mean, it's a pretty radical thing.
Jeez.
We have the age of consent.
I mean, that's a good bar to work around, isn't it?
I mean, that's when you can be said to make informed decisions about your own body.
Certainly not in love.
Jesus.
Yeah.
This is what the matriarchy is going to end up looking like.
But it's like you know that San Francisco is full of gays, right?
I mean, that's a well-known fact, right?
And that's where it is.
And apparently, these psychologists from and psychiatrists, which is worrying, from San Francisco agreed that this boy wanted to be a girl.
You know, and I just can't help but think, mm-hmm, what camp were they in?
And how feminist, psychiatry, disgusting are insanely fucking feminist, obviously.
See, this is why I would fight for the patriarchy.
A patriarchy wouldn't agree to that.
No.
Because that is wrong.
That is really fucking wrong.
I just can't imagine, like, imagine meeting them in the street.
Oh, yeah, yeah, you know, how are you doing, Carol?
I haven't seen you in, like, five years.
Oh, yeah, my son.
My son, a few years ago, he said he wanted to be a girl.
Oh, that's funny.
Yeah, so when he hit age 11, I started giving him hormone injections from the state.
And it's just like, what?
Yeah, well, I mean, how c he's 11?
You know?
Does this happen the other way?
What if he gets to 19?
What if he's 19 and changes his mind?
Are there 11-year-old girls who want to become 11-year-old boys?
And if that does happen, surely someone will fucking complain.
You can't tell an 11-year-old girl that she wants to be a boy.
That's absurd.
You can post her in a game.
Especially if the parents were two men who were known men's rights activists.
Yeah.
Imagine, yeah, gay men's rights activists.
Fucking.
Why did they adopt a boy?
That was probably all they could get.
Did they adopt?
Is that what it is?
Well, you're costing a fucking one to talk about.
So, oh, God.
Two lesbians adopt a boy and try to turn him into a girl.
Maybe that was the plan.
Maybe that was the plan.
Maybe they thought, right, because remember they're stupid, right?
Not lesbians, I'm talking about feminists.
Now, they probably got that boy and thought gender's our social construct, so we'll construct this boy into being a girl.
Well, that's exactly what they've done.
I mean, it's fucking self-evident.
Sick.
Fucking sick.
Male is a social construct.
Female is completely fucking natural.
It really is how they.
One of the things I find myself just wanting to say to feminists is just look, feminism is the belief that only women are people.
You know, it's so obvious that that is all you're concerned about.
It just drives.
Not even people.
Not even people.
Children.
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
Women are snowflakes.
Children who are princesses.
Oh, yeah.
Fucking.
I watched the movie Divergent the other day.
Because I've not seen it.
Yeah, I wouldn't expect you to.
I wouldn't normally have seen it.
It's a young adult movie like The Hunger Games.
And it's focused on the most special snowflake you've ever seen in your life.
The world is.
And this is.
It's literally an allegory for everything the feminists are saying, right?
The world is organized into five categories.
And they are summed up by the emotion or the adjective that describes them best.
So you've got the.
It's in a post-apocalyptic future where there's just one city left.
And then you've got like, I can't remember what the name for them was, but the farmers who just get such joy out of tending the land.
It's like, okay, that's weird.
Then you've got some other ones, I assume that the mechanics or whatever.
And then you've got this one called Erudites, which are the intellectuals of society.
You've got the Abdurrs or something.
I can't remember the word they used.
Basically, the families, the middle class, effectively.
And then you had Dauntless, which were the Warriors.
And it's okay.
And they're all very, very, very easily defined when you're watching the film.
It's very easy to get the theme they're going to.
And apparently, everyone, they grow up in whatever faction that they are born into until they get to like 18 when they choose their faction based on a test or something.
And, you know, some sort of science fiction test.
And this girl is, she's such a special snowflake that she doesn't fit into any of these categories.
And therefore, she gets this label called Divergent.
And it's like, oh, for fuck's sake.
This is literally like the feminist view of the world.
So I'm going to get caught off there?
Ah, I thought it was me.
No, I think Sargon would cut off.
He's still showing up somewhere.
Yeah, I'm showing up, but the audio's not audio's not moving.
Mine is?
I mean, is Masculine still shooting?
No, you haven't even got an avatar, you've just got your name.
Alright, I suppose I I 'cause I shared it, I didn't know how to unshare it, you know?
My screenshot, but cool.
Yeah, I have no idea what you guys are doing with the with the with the uploading your screens.
See the the hangout screen on the left-hand side, it's the green arrow.
It says screen share.
If you click on that, you get the choice to put what you want up.
Any anything you've got opened.
And you could show on the screen.
If you press it, you'll see the choices.
You don't need to pick one, but you could pick in.
I'm not gonna.
There's no way you people have seen what I'm doing.
I want to see what your bookmarks are.
No, you don't.
No, I don't.
Like 90% goat porn.
It's it's it's lonely out in space.
Yes.
Good old porn.
Not just normal porn.
It's got to be goat porn.
You reach a plateau where it's goat or nothing.
Goat or nothing.
Does goat mean greatest of all time or an actual goat?
An actual goat, good fella.
Okay.
Okay, I thought you were some kind of parrot.
You're dangerously under-educated in the range of vaginas that the fauna around us has to offer.
You might assume the human one would be the best good fella, but that's that's 'cause you're not thinking with portals.
Because I'm naive.
Yeah.
How far into that description of that film did I get before I got cut off?
It's uh a view of uh how feminists see the world.
Yeah, or like, you know, I think I think women generally kind of see the world very much like this.
What do you guys reckon?
I say that, you know, like women see the world as, but what I actually mean is, the impression I get from the media that women produce, you know, the stories they write and stuff like this.
there seems to be very much they seem to think they're being controlled by society.
Right, right.
I mean, is that something you guys would say looks to be the case?
I'd say for feminists, yes.
For feminists, definitely.
With a patriarchy and all that, I'd say yes, but no.
I think it might even go a bit deeper than that.
I mean, uh on a oh I might not say biological, but on a certainly uh longly, deeply ingrained societal level.
Um uh women uh work on the rules on making the rules and men work on enforcing the rules.
And it's always sort of been that way.
Does that answer the question that was just asked?
Because I completely forgot what that question was.
It doesn't it doesn't matter so much if it answers exactly.
It's more than it's an interesting point.
Yeah, I think I think domestically that's very true.
I think when it comes to ordering things that's true.
And that and and that translates through to everything else, doesn't it?
Because that's where everything starts.
Um yeah, I think I I d I don't know.
I find that it seems to be women arguing against certain principles that I find to be inviolable.
Like with Rebecca Watson and the New Zealand inquisitorial system for rape cases, where it's assumed that the rapist the accused rapist is the rapist and then evidence to prove that he didn't rape someone has to be found instead of the reverse.
I find it's often women arguing for that and they don't seem to understand the moral principle that they're violating there.
And that really bothers me.
Maybe Arctic dragons, right?
They want something controlling them.
Do you think he's right?
Yeah, that's actually a really good point.
Yeah.
It's a projection of control.
They need to think something's controlling them so that they by proxy can control something else.
And again, that's not just a female thing, it's an in-power thing.
Well, I find that interesting, actually, because I mean, I agree.
I think they probably do.
Well, I don't necessarily know if they want to be controlled.
I think they want to know that it's going to be okay.
I think the feeling of security to knowing that someone is taking care of the important stuff, and if it's them, they tend to, I think women have got a definite totalitarian bent towards them, definite innate sort of dictatorialness.
And I think it comes from a place of trying to get the job done right, you know, not really being able to necessarily rely on the people under you.
When I've been under female bosses, they've very much been like that.
And I find it very peculiar, because under male bosses, they tend to assume that you can do what you're being paid to do.
And they tend to micromanage less, I find.
Yeah, kind of.
It's difficult.
I always encounter this problem whenever it's is it women or is it women in this day and age, if you see what I mean?
Is it feminists?
No, I think women have always been controlling.
I can think of plenty of hyper-controlling women from history.
Yeah, but the last two thousand years weren't like the few thousand years before that, were they?
They were surprisingly similar, actually.
Yeah, it's about four or five thousand BC that mankind tended towards cities.
They were small, obviously, fucking small, but it's you know the division of labour.
Yeah, but it wasn't it wasn't anything like as gynocentric in Greek or Roman times, was it?
Because, you know.
No, that's not.
To answer Claudia's question, by the way, that it is more manly for two men to be in a relationship, that was very much the case in ancient Greek times, was it not?
That's true.
That is very true.
It's very interesting, actually, because it's one of those things that for the first human civilizations were they were gender divided, but women tended to go into religion and men tended to go into politics.
You know, it was, you know, because it was a city-state, you know, all the sort of Mesopotamian city-states and Egypt.
Egypt was actually different.
I think they actually had male priests in Egypt, but in, say, Sumer and Akkad, it was and then it became more patriarchal as time went on.
But I think it became more patriarchal as time went on because the stakes got higher.
You know, it wasn't one city you were dealing with, it was an entire empire you were dealing with.
And it was and it was still you know, there was no automation, there was still manpower needed to do the pages as well.
So, yeah.
So it's going to be patriarchal to that degree for most of history.
Yeah, it's n it's more necessity that forces it to become but the point is b in in ancient Greek uh times and areas it the pa there was well if there was a patriarchy then that patriarchy did indeed agree that two men in a relationship was more manly than a man and a woman because it was you know a man for fun a woman for procreation.
Yeah, I mean Greece was really the only place that was really big on homosexual sex.
Is that because men were seen as higher status than women so it was better to have a male partner than a female sex?
To some degree it well it's it's difficult to say.
I mean men very definitely love their wives.
You know there's you I mean there are lots of like Pyrrhus like the guy who did a video series on he he named a city after his wife who died and he used to give up military honours named after her.
He very clearly had a huge amount of respect for her.
And you always see like you get like just bits of shards of pottery and stuff with kind messages written on them to their wives and stuff like that.
And so men very clearly love their wives but Greece was a real example because it was very militaristic compared to other parts of the world around it.
And they were very enchanted with the male form.
They thought naked men looked wonderful.
So yeah, it was a very much male-centered society.
It was a very much male-centered society.
I won't lie.
Maybe we should get back there, eh?
Hey?
Maybe we should get back to a society where you can look at a naked man and go, well, whatever.
Yeah, good on you, bruv.
The being gay thing was more sort of almost like an apprenticeship.
I'm not joking.
Yeah.
Max Palace has got a pederasty, older wiser men with younger men.
It was.
I'm not kidding.
It was literally like an apprenticeship.
One of my favourite ancient Greeks had sex with Socrates.
So everyone was at it.
That's why he's one of your favourite ancient Greeks.
So it's like he was in the lower rungs.
It's like he was in the lower rungs until he fucked Socrates, and then he really soared for me.
No, no, it was the other way around.
Socrates was in the lower rungs until he fucked Alcibiades.
But that's the thing.
It was definitely a way of gaining social status.
And there was the sacred band of Thebes, who were famously like a core of 300 men who were all gay lovers.
They had a partner.
They were monogamously gay, I think.
And so there was 150 couples who fought in this rank.
And the theory being that they wouldn't run away because they'd be worried that their lover was going to die on the battlefield.
And it worked.
They all wound up getting massacred because they didn't retreat.
So, I mean, the system works.
Yeah, someone pointed out it was mandatory for Spartans.
Sorry?
Are you breaking up a bell, Mike?
Right, which time, yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah, it seems to have been a little bit.
But yeah, in Sparta, it's mandatory.
So there was very little chance of a Spartan boy reaching adulthood with his anal virginity intact.
It's fucking worrying, isn't it?
And everyone wonders why they're all laconic and fucking angry.
Oh.
Just so you know the mouse.
My real name's Alexander.
Just saying.
No, is it?
Aye.
It's a fine old name, that.
I tell you, the Scots have been calling people Alexander for donkeys years.
It's my son's name as well.
It's also...
It's also my dad's name and my granddad's name.
It really is.
It really is.
What about your neighbours?
Everyone in Scotland is just.
It keeps dropping.
I will reinvite him.
What's dropping?
Doctor Random again.
Nicholas, it wasn't necessarily rape oriented.
It was more sort of a repressive really.
You know, it wasn't necessarily rape, but it kind of be easy to interpret it as rape.
It was definitely walking the line.
Ah, are you back?
No, you're not back.
What?
Technology, a blessing, and a curse at the same time.
Okay, well, why are we trying to get that back?
Let's have a look and see what they've got on Jezebel.com.
Not so much, the mouse.
Not so much, great, but I'm an Alexander, it'll still count.
It's good enough, isn't it?
Right, so this is Jezebel.com for today.
And the post-humous Michael Jackson video, that sounds useful.
Yep, sounds good.
Former top chef David Burke accused of discrimination against Muslims.
Why would they be featuring that?
How is that misogynist?
You're picking up slightly there.
I didn't hear that.
Oh, this guy is in a lawsuit against discrimination against Muslims.
I mean, this is obviously a white man, so he's clearly in the wrong.
I...
Jezebel is just the epitome of everything that's wrong with feminism.
You know?
David Burke's company is pretty shitty to its Muslim employees.
Is that really awful?
I don't know.
I can't bother with that one.
Rude baby elephant refuses to leave sleeping dog alone.
Well done, Jezebel.
PMS bitchiness is real and it is spectacular.
Oh, go on.
Tracy Moore.
Are you a bitch for your period?
Do you care or like it or secretly hopes for a good reason?" So basically it's literally like everything on Jezebel.
Justifying why women act out and just excusing it.
Well, I'm just going to send you a link from Jezebel, right?
Just to show you what they're really like, you know.
There is a chat in this Christ chat.
There we go.
You get that link there.
Oh, yes.
Have you ever beat up a boyfriend because we have?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, go on.
Nice eh?
Yep.
Yeah, go on, Jezebel.
Self-deprecating now.
Go on.
Let's see this.
Psychiatry news is a piece out this month about how men shouldn't be overlooked as victims of domestic violence.
I'm surprised this even made print.
Women are doing virtually everything these days that men are.
Booking as doctors, lawyers, rocket scientists, flying helicopters in combat, riding horses in the Kentucky Derby.
Yeah, that's literally everything that men do.
And physically assaulting their spouse and partners.
Yeah, because that's.
That's just what we do.
Yeah, it's just part of being a man.
Honestly, it's like that the 150-odd people watching this haven't done every single one of these things.
According to the study of relationships that engage in non-reciprocal violence, a whopping 70% are perpetrated by women.
Who could have imagined?
Who could have imagined?
So basically, the girls are beating up their boyfriends and husbands, and the dudes aren't fighting back.
With Amy Winehouse busting open a can of whoop ass on her husband last week, this must be quite old.
We decided.
Yeah, no, no, that's alright, that's alright.
We decided to conduct an informal survey of the Jezebels to see who's gotten violent with their men.
After reviewing the answers, let's just say that it'd be never wise, it'd be wise to never fuck with us.
Oh, this is my point.
This is exactly my point.
You meant to be like, shit, we're terrible people.
Fucking hell.
Amy Winehouse busting open a can of pass on her husband, right?
Now, imagine a guy had written an article and said, well, Chris Brown, you know, opened a can and would pass on Rihanna.
He'd be fired.
He would be fired if he used that word, words like that.
But see that same incident?
Amy Winehouse, a few months later, she went on to pick a Grammy.
I mean, it's just astounding, isn't it?
Yeah, unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
I don't know what's going on with Dr. Random account.
He's kind of dropping in and out.
I'll keep sending you invites.
Maybe you need to close and reopen the browser or something.
I don't know.
Maybe his internet connection as well.
Yeah, maybe.
Not mine.
So one Jezebel got into it with a dude when they were breaking up.
Classy.
While another went nuts on her guy and began violently shoving him.
One of your editors heard her boyfriend flirting on the phone with another girl, so she slapped the phone out of his hands and hit him in the face and neck.
Partially open-handed.
It was probably on the phone to his mum or something.
He's like, yeah, okay, mum.
Bye.
I love you too.
What?
You love someone?
Fucking hell.
But another editor slapped a guy when he told me he thought he had breast cancer.
What?
Look at the brackets.
Okay, that one made his laugh really hard.
I mean, men can get breast cancer, you know, and he's away again.
It's his internet.
It must be his internet.
Yeah.
What kind of.
He thought he had breast cancer, so she slapped him.
Oh, no, punched him.
Sorry.
I know that was a different one, but she slapped him.
Why would she do that?
What?
And lastly, one Jez punched a steady in the face and broke his glasses.
She had discovered a sex story she was writing about another dude.
Oh, no.
He had discovered a sex story she was writing about another dude on her laptop, so he picked it up and threw it.
And that's when she socked him.
He was totally asking for it.
God's sake.
I am just.
I just.
Unbelievable.
I wonder what the comments are like, actually.
Yeah, comments.
Well, the first one is a guy.
The missus smacked me around a bit for the third time in our 17-year-old marriage.
I never even raised a finger, ever.
I left the adulterous, abusive bitch there and then without saying a word and regained my balls.
I got custody of our three kids in the home.
Violence is a betrayal of trust.
Yeah, she was sorry each time that shit happened.
Look at the second comment, Luke.
Now, I wonder what you did to antagonise her to attack you.
Oh, fuck me.
I mean, there's nothing there the guy says in any way.
Yeah.
She's got to jump in and say, oh, you must have antagonised her because women are not just violent without men without it being men's fault.
It's fucking shit.
Yeah, absolutely.
There is always a woman who comes out and defends and says, oh, it must have just been awful for her in some way, for her to have, you know, committed that terrible crime.
And it's like, yeah, yeah, it's awful that she's a psycho.
At least people are actually challenging that, though.
You know?
And yeah, gleefully admitting to partner violence is not okay because you're a woman.
It's still something to be ashamed of.
Yes, Jezebel.
Exactly.
Fuck me. I love this.
This is brilliant.
Imagine this coming out of the mouth of a man, right?
I've open-palm-smacked my lovely, perfect, wonderful girlfriend about twice since moving in with her.
Never with full force, as I have a black belt and I know what my full force is disabling when used correctly.
But God, do I feel terrible afterwards?
You know, that would just be, you'd be like, you fucking evil son of a bitch.
For her, it's just like, well, you know, I'm just going to admit on the internet, yeah, I feel bad.
You know?
Look how she justifies it, though.
If he's taunting me and all asking for it in an Esther by declaiming Wesley Willis' lyrics at top volume.
So that's you know what I mean?
That's that's that's no, I'm absolutely with you there.
It's it's it's it's like you literally say don't blame the black people.
She's just fattening people when she's a black belt.
Yeah, I thought the whole point of learning karate was so you didn't have to use it.
But that's the thing, she's like the bad guy in an 80s movie.
She learned it so she could use it, you know.
But yeah, I love it.
Even if he's taunting me and all but asking for it, but if a man had said that, she'd be like, that's bad.
Women are never taunting men.
They're never asking for it.
You know.
It's just such bullshit.
It's amazing what they get away with.
They just write it all happy as well.
Yeah, as if they just don't care.
And this, how did you overcome the feelings that you had after doing this?
It's like, hey, I'll stop you there.
They didn't have feelings after doing this.
They think it's just fine.
I just drunkenly pummeled my boyfriend this weekend for no good reason.
I was really wasted.
I feel so terrible.
So are you fucking shirt?
He says that he's staying because men can go back to their abusive wives.
But he looks like he's been giving me the looks he has been giving me are heartbreaking.
Well, who's fucking fault?
I've never seen a man writing any kind of comment like that before.
I've never seen a man writing a comment like that ever.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, it's so because men are far less likely to be hurt, according to this woman, we shouldn't have care about them.
You see, that's 15% according to them.
Therefore, we shouldn't have care about the men who attacked them and because they're only 15%.
As if that even matters.
Are still a victim of violence?
At least there are people challenging it.
There's someone called Rolls-Royce Head on who's put a good post explaining how this is moral relativism.
So yeah, that's I mean, at least there are people.
But that's the point that even Jezebel has got people going on there and saying, look, no, this is bollocks and what you're doing is wrong.
I mean, can there be any more sort of sure sign?
But don't you think, don't you think they put that article up to get a bit of attention, though?
Maybe.
They must have known.
They must have known that that's going to rile people up.
Yeah, it's just about clicks, isn't it?
And as Jezebel, their audience demand that kind of stuff, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah, I bet there are thousands of man-haters who totally loved the article under a fire.
Oh, I.
Oh, God, I. 1.5 thousand.
And I bet they all fucking had a vibrator in their hand when they were reading it.
Oh, without doubt.
Probably just masturbating with Jermaine Greer's books or something.
That's a good one.
Seriously, if these comments were from men celebrating their finest acts of physical violence against the farmers, people would be going back shit insane with outrage and rightfully so.
Because women aren't as strong as men doesn't mean they can't do some serious harm.
Women use weapons and all.
Yeah, I saw a thing that they were literally like twice as likely to use a weapon than a man was.
And proxy violence as well.
How many times does a woman get men to do the violence for her?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
You know what I mean?
At least there are some people on Jezebel saying, no, look, you're full of shit.
At least.
Surprised Jezebel didn't remove those comments.
I am.
I'm genuinely surprised, actually.
Apparently, these are the newer comments.
I suspect there might have been older comments that were notoriously man-hating, as Jezebel is wont to do.
Nice.
And this sort of thing.
Oh, wow.
Lena Dunham is the master of section.
She's got a new haircut.
Who gives a fuck?
Is this really the kind of pointless twaddle that feminists want to read about?
Oh, shit.
The single mothers have caught up to everyone.
Mum arrested for leaving kids in park while she visits a food bank.
Fucking hell.
That's going to be.
I swear, The Single Mothers of Swindon, I follow that shoutout Swindon page just for that.
It's just the hysteria.
And there was one the other day.
Someone had left a broken bottle in a play park, which I agree is a bad thing.
But they were literally going on about how they'd love to beat these people up, how they'd do X, Y, Z to them.
And I'm just like, Jesus Christ.
You'd think that they exterminated the Jews or something.
It was very irresponsible to leave a broken bottle in a park.
I agree.
And that's as far as I go agreeing with you.
Crazy mothers.
They're mental.
I don't know if Swindon's especially bad for it or not, I mean...
Oh no, they're definitely bad.
But they have to go.
Have you got any other good ones?
I've not.
I've kind of ran out about Mark's.
I don't know if I've got many more.
Sorry, there were a few things I was going to.
Parenting science.
The science of toy preferences in children.
I found this very interesting.
They actually achieved the correct conclusions, but they went through some tortured logic to get there, if I can remember this correctly.
Parents with sons and daughters often see the differences in the way their kids play, and research confirms it.
Yeah, because only a feminist society would need research to confirm it.
You know, I'm just thinking, why?
Why would you research this?
But okay, fine.
That's fine.
We need research in this, apparently.
People are more likely to train boys to be strong, tough, aggressive, and competitive.
Blah, blah, blah.
That doesn't mean their behaviour is entirely determined by social factors.
Fucking no way.
Child's play is also influenced by prenatal development.
A study of fetal testosterone researchers measured hormone levels of the amniotic fluid of pregnant women.
Then they tracked the children for several years after the birth.
The results, testosterone levels were higher in male fetuses, of course.
But female fetuses were exposed to some testosterone, too.
The fetal testosterone was linked with rough and tumble play.
The higher the testosterone levels, the more likely the child was to exhibit male typical behaviours.
Well, fuck me backwards.
Imagine that.
Fucking hell.
I get annoyed just reading it because it's just, you can see some academic going, I'm so fucking clever, as they're typing at their keyboard.
And we've done all the research, we can prove it.
It's like, yeah, and I've met kids, and I can prove it.
Aha, random academy back.
Aha!
These are more equal.
It really is.
Sorry about that.
Had to restart the whole shebang there, but we got there in the end.
Don't know what happened.
That makes you a lot clearer.
Actually.
Yeah, I haven't restarted my computer in fucking weeks.
I probably should have done that before this.
Yeah, yeah, there it goes.
What have I missed?
Anything?
Right, well, feminists had to do research into whether boys and girls were different.
Okay.
I think I want to speak.
And you probably know what the conclusion was.
The conclusion was miraculously, yes, they are different.
Science shows them.
And the feminists are now desperately flailing around to suggest that this doesn't suggest what it actually suggests.
So are preferences for girls' toys and boys' toys biologically determined?
It's more complicated than that.
Maybe the male preference.
Maybe, maybe the male preference for rough and tumble play can explain the way kids play with their toys.
But that doesn't make the toys themselves intrinsically male or female.
No.
The toys aren't male or female, you spastics.
They're fucking...
Why would you even... Why would you say that?
Obviously not, you dumbasses.
Masculine or feminine, maybe.
We've determined there's a difference between sex and gender, right?
Or certain social scientists have determined there's a difference between sex and gender.
That there's something going on in this bit of the front of the brain, right, that determines a certain orientation.
Yeah.
And we can say that there are orientations more common in people with XY in their genes, and there are certain orientations more common with people with XX in their genes.
That's biological literally prove in this study that it's down to testosterone levels in the womb and probably later on throughout life.
Yeah.
So that's what they prove, right?
And so I love this.
It goes on.
Give a girl some plastic dinosaurs and she might do several things.
Act out a drama, take the dinosaurs foraging, or treat the boys as pets.
Absolutely.
That is what young girls tend to do.
A boy might be more likely to stage dinosaur battles.
Absolutely.
Now, if you're a child and you want to act out a drama or treat the toys as like pets or people in a shop or something like that, you know, like little girls play, are you going to be more attracted to Barbie dolls or dinosaurs with giant sharp teeth?
I mean, it's self-evident.
And so, you know, oh, these aren't intrinsically male or female.
It's like, actually, I think the qualities make them intrinsically attractive to boys and intrinsically attractive to girls.
It's not the sort of thing anyone actually needs to do a study on, surely.
No.
I mean, money was wasted on this.
See, just to quickly answer, Chris GS, 1987, he said, did anyone see the story of the woman who glassed a guy in the face?
We covered that right at the very start.
She had 17.
Let's ask Dr. Randomer Cam because you weren't here.
There's a woman who glassed a man in a nightclub.
She had 17 previous convictions for assault and she walked free from court.
Was this in Hull by any chance?
I read a story about this happening somewhere in good old Kingston upon Hull.
So I've got the this might be the kind of thing that happens all the fucking time now.
Yeah, and I've still got it here.
Estate agent Bournemouth, it was.
A friend of mine from sent a similar story.
Yeah, and the judge sort of says, this would be no excuse if you were a man.
You would get seven years at least for this.
And then they get let off with nothing.
So apparently it is a fucking excuse.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
That's exactly what happened.
It was just, you know, she's got 17 priorities.
Oh, yeah.
I remember this is roughly where I came in, actually.
I missed the first 13 minutes, but I came in while you were talking about this.
Yeah, that's fucking brutal.
I mean, that guy's face.
And then just, yeah, 17 prior convictions, but you know what?
She doesn't need a sentence.
She's probably not going to do it again.
Don't you think she looks white?
Don't you think she looks white in the top photograph, but then she looks black in the second one?
Christ, she does.
She looks white in that one there, the yellow dress, and then when you scroll down, she looks black.
Yeah, she looks heavily tanned in that one.
Yeah, she looks black there.
It's weird, doesn't it?
It's got a good rack on it, eh?
But, you know, never stick your dick in crazy.
But yeah, I just want to get to the conclusion of this thing, because it's just magnificent, right?
So, yeah, thus, whether boys are predisposed to prefer boys' toys, there is no reason to think that girls are predisposed to reject toys that are stereotypically male.
Again, I really think this just comes down to form and function, given that they're specifically performing an act with each method of play.
But here's an example: most young boys want male toys, even if the parents aren't pushing them.
Obviously, they needed to do another fucking study of this, but they came to the conclusion that everyone already knew that, yes, kids themselves requested more likely to request masculine toys because guns and dinosaurs have things that do things like shoot people and eat people.
But anyway, yeah, so they needed that, so not terribly surprising.
But it was mostly the boys who were requesting gender-stereotyped toys.
Now, that's interesting.
That boys developed this preference early on when girls got it about five years old.
I mean, I don't know whether there's anything to be drawn from that specifically.
Do you see the difference all the way when we got older and all?
I mean, just look, for example, at the movies most men enjoy and the movies most women enjoy.
There's a reason they're called chick flicks, you know, because men don't fucking watch them.
They're not interested in them.
Women like different things, men like different things.
It's just that's it.
Most men would watch either comedies or action, I would guess.
Most women would watch chick flicks or rom-coms.
Yeah, I would say so.
See how comedy is present in both things there?
Comedy brings all things together.
Do you see?
I don't think a romantic comedy is really.
It's a euphemism, isn't it, for chick-flick?
Predictable nonsense.
You would say that you're a man.
Oh, this is the patriarchy at work.
They're so oppressed.
So in this thing, it's why the difference?
That's true.
That's true.
I've seen feminist comedians, so I know it's actually objective now.
Comedians, there's no such fucking thing as a feminist comedian.
Oh, yeah, exactly.
That's exactly it.
But they take the label.
They're the type of people to be really funny without realising it and without meaning it.
Yeah, exactly.
They're funny in the cat is funny.
Yeah.
'Cause I'll when I watch a Lacey if I watch a Lacey Green video, I'll laugh my ass off all the way through it and I don't think she's meaning to be funny.
Yeah, I just want to finish off because I like the completeness now.
Now that we started, I want to finish.
So why the difference?
Some researchers suggested that boystros show stronger sex bias than girls do because boys grip more criticism for crossing the joy toy gender line.
So it might be.
I don't know.
You know, but it's all very sort of wishy-washy.
And then it goes on to toys that get noticed.
The premise being that boys' toys are very loud and noisy and flashy, whereas girls' toys aren't.
Might be true.
I don't know.
That's a wow.
There are girls' toys that are big and flashy, surely.
If you look at the difference in the toy sections, the boys' sections are all different colours.
The girl sections all pink.
Marks and Spencer's are going to start doing a neutral toy section.
They're not going to have a girl's section or a boy section.
Pink is just the colour of a baby.
Can I point this out?
Pink is the colour of a baby.
So whichever sex is stereotyped as pink is the sex that's stereotyped as a normal baby.
This came up in QI once, I think.
Like 100 years ago, pink was the colour for boys and blue was the colour for girls.
Because blue was considered like demure and pink was considered, well, just another version of red.
Because even the word pink didn't appear until quite later.
It was just sort of light red.
We have a word for light red, but we don't have a word for light blue instead of light blue.
See what I mean?
So in a century or two, well, maybe several centuries, it flipped over to girls being pink and boys being blue.
And that might be quite telling, you know, given that pink is the colour of a baby.
A healthy baby?
A blue baby is a...
Okay, well, I'm not going down that route because that's poor taste.
Well, I mean, in European societies, European derived societies.
A blue baby is a fucking dead baby, basically.
Well, yeah, of course.
But I mean, like, you know, African societies probably don't have quite the emphasis on pink.
Well, they're still a great deal more pink when they're born, aren't they?
I don't know, to be honest.
No, they develop melanin through life.
I think so.
I've never looked.
That's why babies are more pink than adults, generally, because they fully develop the melanin.
Any black people asking when you were born?
Were you pink?
No, not completely pink.
They're not completely obviously darker than Caucasian newborns, but they're still lighter than they are.
It's much the same with hair, you know.
Lots of children have quite fair hair when they're young, and then it gets darker as they get older.
It's much the same with the skin, I think.
Everything sort of slowly develops during childhood.
Again, I might be talking bollocks completely because I'm really fucking drunk right now.
It's entirely possible.
There was actually something I did need to get to.
I just forgot my point.
So these two studies, no, sorry, the same study that she keeps quoting throughout the article.
I know there was two studies.
But it basically delineates between the styles of play.
Boys are mechanically oriented and girls are something else.
I don't know.
People orientated.
Yeah, yeah, socially oriented.
And she goes on to say that, you know, boys' toys are disruptive and it's been noticed in non-human primate dominance displays that the most disruptive and ruckus sort of ones are the most successful.
And so uh so yeah, perhaps then natural selection has favoured males who seek out and tinker with objects that make a ruckus.
Well, maybe.
You know, I wouldn't rule it out.
Boys have got more energy though.
Wouldn't you say boys have got more energy than girls?
Sorry, say that again.
Do you not think boys have got more energy than girls?
Well they've got bigger muscles, so it's that sort of stands to reason in this kind of energy, maybe not as much energy in their mouth.
Yeah.
We have been going on for three and a half hours, guys.
That's true, but I think it's um I mean I've noticed that little boys do tend to eat more than little girls.
I've I've I come from a big family and it was always the little girls that would leave food in their plate.
It was never the little boys.
And that's probably just down to them actually running around a lot more than the girls I think.
The girls were they tended to be the first to drop out of the play when it got big.
Bo boys tend to be more focused on big, don't they?
Yeah.
Everything's got to be bigger, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, a more exaggerated form of itself.
Yeah.
That that's why it seems so simple to feminists that the boys are so simple.
They just want things big, whereas girls are much more complicated.
And, you know, it seems more complicated on the surface, but they just want a different kind of big problem.
You might know what I'm getting at.
I don't know.
No, I think I know what you mean.
So yeah, but but the thing is this, but whatever explains the male preference for mechanical play, we should consider mechanical play hones spatial skills and spatial skills are key for success in a variety of fields, including art, architecture, engineering, and the physical sciences.
And while it's likely that doll play has its own benefits, highly sexualized dolls, Barbie is not actually highly sexualised.
She's highly idealised.
You know, the proportions and whatnot, they're absurd.
Well, if she's highly sexualised, so's action man and G.I. Joe.
Yeah, exactly.
And none of them have got any genitalia to sexualise along.
You know, Barbie doesn't have any nipples.
Do tits count?
Although Barbie doesn't really have very massive tits, does she?
She's just got little pointy things like Madonna.
Yeah, she's not full nipples.
Yeah, no nipples, no sexual signifiers.
But I mean, women have breasts, so you couldn't make a woman doll without putting breasts on it because that would be a reality.
You know, I don't think that Barbie's sexualised in any fucking way.
You know, I really don't.
But anyway, surely there are supernormal stimuli.
You know, a supernormal stimuli, right?
With baby birds, if you show them it's a certain species of baby bird that has a the adult has a yellow beak with red stripes in it, sure, if you show them a yellow sort of ruler with three red stripes and they go completely mental.
And so there's the same thing with supernormal stimuli with male ideal images of women.
So if you it's something to do with the thigh waist ratio and whatever.
Barbie's a girls' toy.
So women are true by thinking I definitely sexual.
These anthropometric truths still exist to some degree.
Don't get me wrong, I remember being a kid and first like exploring a Barbie doll when I was like six years old or something.
I remember thinking this is weird.
You know I didn't understand it.
You could it's the Barbie isn't a normal human shape, is she?
And if you could take a normal human shape and extrude it into something not sexual, you'd turn it into something like Shrek.
If you could turn it into something hypersexual, a super normal stimuli, it would be something a bit like Barbie, wouldn't it?
It doesn't need to have huge and a working vagina for it.
Ken and is he not an ideal image, you know, that menu.
They're all plastic at the end of the day.
I don't necessarily think that's sexual, though.
I think it's more sort of tends towards the relationship angle rather than the sex angle.
You know, like you said, Ken's Ken represents a very wealthy man who can afford a nice car and a nice house.
And Barbie represents the perfect wife who does cooking and cleaning and baking.
Yeah, do we ever find out what Ken does for a living?
Going to be a dog dealer or something.
And the national arms.
Yeah, I think it's some sort of terrible white-collar crime.
He might be a model.
You never know.
Maybe they're two models that just live together.
No, Ken's the guy who opens Indonesian sweatshops and enslaves entire countries for a few extra pennies so Barbie can fit in an extra big jacuzzi.
That's the kind of person Ken is, son of a bitch.
Doesn't it matter anyway?
She only sees him as a credit card.
Yeah, exactly.
That's the thing.
Ken's job is so unimportant, we have no idea what he does.
Action, man, we know exactly what.
That's the difference between men and women's view of the world, I swear to God.
Oh, wait, I just realized Ken fucking fights Blenka and Evonda.
Ken's a bare-knuckle boxer, I see.
He's got the same build.
He's got the same fucking habit if you married a double-blood.
Yeah, he's got yellow hair.
Does Ken have yellow hair?
Yeah, he fucking do Ken and shit.
That's why he's called Ken.
Trust.
So, in this thing, yeah, mechanical play, blah, blah, blah.
Highly sexualized dolls cause them to value themselves primarily for their physical appearance.
This is something I think is just innate to women by virtue of men being highly visual creatures.
You know, I think this is evolution.
You know, I mean, it is the fact that women are highly behavioral creatures, in the same way that men are highly visual creatures, so women focus on how they look and men focus on how they behave.
Exactly.
It's all this fucking crossover thing that we're all always going to have to deal with.
Yeah, and it's almost like they're two halves of the same whole, you know, like one side does one thing and the other side does another thing and they produce a useful unit out of it.
I don't know.
It's almost like evolution.
Like no, I didn't have a plan, but you know what I mean.
What's up with that?
We're a sexually dimorphic species.
And it's taken quite a long time for us to figure out that that's the case.
It's taken a long time for feminists to figure it out.
Yes.
So yeah, there are good reasons to counter the cultural pressures that push kids into sex stereotype play.
And it's like you've just spent the article saying that it's actually not that cultural.
You know, you literally spent the article explaining how the evidence suggests that it seems to be natural and inbuilt towards children in children.
So why go on about the cultural pressures?
Why the cultural pressures even bad if it is a natural inclination?
Because everyone has to be equal.
Yeah.
So yeah, that was that was my thoughts on that fucking annoying thing on parenting science.
Which there are loads of these sort of pseudo-scientific websites popping up and they really piss me off.
Have you you guys?
They've always studies and studies and studies that don't mean anything.
And then they go in this recent study, blah, blah, blah, and then they make it like it was a lot of these studies, all I'm just asking myself is why?
Why was this study done?
Who cares?
Like I was saying to you earlier about that, who's that guy, Leave it, who said he's a feminist, he came out as a feminist.
Oh, Jason.
As I've seen you earlier, why do these famous people keep being asked if they're a feminist or not?
Why are the people asking them this?
It's weird, man.
Yeah, it's similar.
Are you a communist?
You know, it's the same question.
It's a strange.
Do you happen to live in a communist country?
It's the same question.
There we go.
But no, I'm sure that Captain Andy will still keep insisting we don't live in a feminist country.
I'm obsessed with these guys because I find them so interesting to kind of pick their brains.
Because I actually want to know how they view the world.
Because I like seeing things from other people's perspectives.
I try.
But I inevitably get into the bulb below, and then it's only six or seven responses before they abandon me forever.
If you're in the bulb below, it's not going well for you.
You're probably going to get tortured until you leave.
Yeah, I mean, I've found, check this out, right?
Fucking this sort of absolute twaddle.
Spiritsciencemetaphysics.com.
Now, the only reason I know about this website is because multiple people on Facebook that I've got as friends, people whose opinions I respect and intelligence I respect, have shared links from this website.
Now, I'm not saying that everything they post is wrong, but when their mission statement is, this website intends to bring you the best combination of conscious science and peace-inspiring messages.
Here you will discover a bridge between science and intuition.
I'm just like, Riker, stop you there.
Intuition is not a part of science.
You know, I don't want intuition being introduced into science.
That in itself, I can't trust anything they have to say from now on.
Fucking by definition, surely.
Yeah, exactly.
I've recently encountered this problem with the word technical.
Because you know, when people say technically, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And usually the word technically can be completely removed from the sentence and the sentence will mean exactly the same thing.
And I've tried to justify the word technical by trying to figure out the opposite of the word technical.
And it's tricky, isn't it?
But I think it's intuitive, isn't it?
Hmm.
Because technical means anything.
Technical means anything pertaining to art or science.
Which is fucking anything.
Any human endeavour whatsoever.
And the opposite of that can only possibly be intuition, because that's not a fucking endeavour whatsoever.
Yeah, no.
It's just going with the first thing you think of, because you can't be bothered thinking of the second thing.
Yeah, your gut feeling.
And it's like.
It has no place, not just in science, but in rational fucking thought.
I don't mind using that.
Unless it's time-sensitive.
If you're Captain Kirk and you need to figure out whether or not to fire the fucking phases.
Then maybe intuition is necessary.
But if it's not time-sensitive, then think rationally for fuck's sake.
Yeah, I don't mind gut feeling as a starting point of inquiry.
I've got a feeling that X is Y or whatever, and then you do the research, find the evidence that supports your position.
If you don't find enough, then you don't hold that position.
But they don't seem to be really advocating for that.
It's about like the police saying that there's a connection between my hunch and the evidence.
It's just not really the case.
That's a terrifyingly sort of female-centric version of detective work.
I haven't got anything proof, but I'm pretty sure it's this guy.
I prefer the term histrionic because some men have that as well.
Let's not call it.
Well, yeah, that's true.
Yeah, it was just general terms.
But history.
It's just me and my and my obsession with word meanings.
No, no, no.
I'm with you.
Implications and whatnot.
These bastards.
Yeah, I'm always trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.
But when they say things like spirit science and metaphysics started out as a strictly information-based enterprise, that is a good start.
I mean, why you change from being a strictly information-based enterprise is beyond me.
Acting as an outlet for parapsychology and alternative science that normally gets suppressed or discarded.
It's not suppressed, it's discarded because it's wrong.
Are they confusing suppressed with nobody wants to talk about it?
Yeah, but I mean, intuition obviously plays a great role there.
You know, it's discarded.
But my intuition tells me that it's not wrong, even though everyone's proven it to be wrong, which is why they've discarded it.
Otherwise, they'd adopt it as a theory that they operate and use to think of the world.
So the the truth is, though, that we are mind, body, and spirit.
I mean, that's that's the truth.
What's the difference between mind and spirit, please?
Exactly.
What's the difference between body and mind?
That's not a rhetorical question.
I want to say that.
I don't even like the dualism of mind and body, to be honest.
Mind and body are also the same thing.
Exactly.
I'm not going to have mind and spirit being different things.
I need an explanation for that, please.
Exactly.
You know, you've got the body which has the mind, which has what we term the spirit.
It's just all neurons firing, for fuck's sake.
Yeah, it's all one fucking thing.
It's a body, mind, spirit.
This is the thing about spirituality in general.
I'm such a cynic when it comes to spirituality.
I've got no.
It means whatever you want it to mean.
It really does.
Yeah, and whether you're a moderate atheist or a moderate religious person, you can fucking soak in whatever you like as long as it's called spiritual.
Exactly, it's twaddle.
And these things, I've been seeing them a lot.
I'm not here though.
But yeah, I've been seeing them a lot recently, and it's just I guess people aren't really thinking about them very stringently.
You know, I guess they give them once over, and there is some information.
There's a study to suggest whatever crackpot fucking I mean, th these article titles are actually seven tips to awaken your hidden psychic power.
Right, Kate.
Ten songs you found your soulmate.
How psychedelics saved my life.
Well, that one might be that m might be worth the read.
Four ways to amplify love in your life is.
May as well don't listen to them either.
I I what what four ways how do you amplify the love in your life?
Take a deep breath, be grateful, thoughtful generosity and cultivate love.
Oh my fucking lord, just the wishy-washiest of terms.
Codgewalk.
I know, but I'm seeing it though.
That's the thing.
I'm seeing people saying, oh, this is so true.
No one ever says cultivate logic.
Fucking build a garden of reason.
Because that would involve lines and shit.
I'm loving that, G.
The idea of a garden of reason.
They just can't picture abstract things without picturing picturable things.
That made no fucking sense, Mike.
What?
No, no, that actually did.
It's very, very much like postcard moments.
Like, when is anyone ever just standing in a field looking up at the sky acting like Jesus Christ?
When does that ever happen?
That is a nonsense.
I do like that.
When there are women who hasn't got fucking any work to do.
Yeah, exactly.
She needs a job.
I do that sometimes.
When you feel like you're communion with the sky mother or whatever it is that they believe.
This is barking shit that I see on a daily basis.
And it just.
Why?
Why are you all like this?
How am I trapped in a world full of people who don't know what they're talking about?
Before I discovered the arguments against feminism, I was mostly arguing against religious people.
And religious people had this idea that when people stop worshiping God, they start worshiping something, you start worshiping anything, whatever it is.
To sort of explain this whole obsession with spirituality and shit.
And I hope to fuck that doesn't explain what's going on here.
Like, as soon as we lost the skydaddy religion, we gained the earth mummy religion.
Yeah, I really think that's exactly what's happened.
That's why I made the Jova's feminist video.
I think that a lot of people in those clips were definitely taking spiritual comfort from feminism.
And that makes it a fucking religion.
You know, the ones with their little hymns and the pinata of smashing the patriarchy, the ritual sacrifice of the patriarchy.
It's got all the hallmarks of a religion.
If I were reading this in a history book, I would classify it as a religion.
Like, you know, Zoroastrianism or something.
That's exactly how I'd classify it.
I mean, maybe all ideologies are to a certain extent.
You know, they all give some sort of spiritual comfort.
Well, they seem to, anyway.
You know, that sort of feeling that, yeah, this is just so, this is just right.
You know, I don't need to be worried if just if this could just succeed, I'd have nothing to worry about.
It's a power fantasy that just sort of pushes it into a convenient direction.
Sort of it's easier to think of things as one zero rather than just zero zero.
Just one, one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fucking Joseph Gordon Levitt on being a feminist.
I love the amount of women who are like, oh, he's so wonderful.
It's like, yeah, but you don't find him sexy, do you?
You know, I was thinking, he's not getting you wet, though, is he, love?
Yeah, but he gets to talk to a lot of women who still don't sleep with him.
Even though he's in films.
And I swear to God, if you're on TV and you're not getting laid, you're definitely too much of a manginer.
I've been on TV once.
I'm not getting fucking laid.
What were you on?
Oh, God.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Kay much.
That's why Scots are on TV, Goodfella.
I'm joking.
What were you on, sorry?
Uh, League of Gentlemen.
The League of Gentlemen?
Remember where that was filmed?
No, I don't know where it was filmed, actually.
In a shitty northwest village where I grew up.
Really?
Yeah.
What did you do?
I like the League of Gentlemen.
What did you do?
I was one of the German students on the coach with Hair Lip.
Not the one that got sat on.
He was one of my mates.
If you watch the episode, you'll fucking see me.
I can't believe I'm telling you this on fucking Life.
But yeah.
Sorry, this is the before they were famous thing.
I'm just doing a Google for German student.
I don't know.
Was it anything to do with Hair Lips Choir Boys?
It was the Hair Lip scene, yeah.
I actually had a close-up.
They actually included a close-up of me looking out the window looking miserable.
Apparently, I look quite convincing as a miserable German student.
So yeah, they put that on the fucking BBC for a couple of seconds.
I'm just trying to find it.
I want to see your TV.
Yeah, yeah.
Dr. Random account has, in fact, been on the BBC since the late 90s.
You weren't getting weird because the ladies didn't know that, but now that they know that.
Yeah, see now.
You're going to be swarming.
It's a fucking good thing.
I don't care if I never get laid ever again.
So you're a MGTOW then?
I'm beyond MGTOW, bruv.
I don't even fuck.
Why is that?
Don't need to.
I create life from my fingertips, bro.
I'm fucking Tesla.
Do you get me?
No, no, fair enough.
Can't argue with that.
If you can get something, don't even need to fuck.
I would recommend it thoroughly.
It's awesome.
It helps to be brilliant at masturbating as well.
I don't quite know how to give you tips on that.
If you'll pardon the pun.
That's a video waiting to be made.
That's the one you'll do that will go viral.
That's what people know.
Dr. Random Cam, that guy who talks about wanking.
Well, I'll need to do separate ones.
Here's the guide for the six inches.
Here's the guide for the nine inches.
Here's the guide for the twelve inches.
Now pay attention.
I can imagine somebody watching it going, hey, that guy that's wanking, wasn't he in Liga Gentleman?
I knew I recognised that cock somewhere.
I can't find it, unfortunately.
Which is a shame, because I'd really like to find it.
My face is on DVDs all over the country, being a German student, looking out of a fucking window.
That's might have been one of the first things that pushed me in this rather bizarre direction.
Well, carry on as you mean.
I forgot how that even works.
Carrying me too to go on.
Yeah, some of that.
Ridiculously drunk, Sargon.
Ridiculously.
That guy T sent a link.
Pathios.com.
But I can't.
It seems to be a broken link.
I'm just trying to get it out.
Have I got it?
Faith.
Ah, no, I think I have it.
We're okay.
Faith feminisms.
I know God because I know feminism.
Holy shit.
I'm going to be back in a second.
I'm going to get some brownie.
Some what?
One too many marlons.
I have some special brownie, and I'm not going through this sober.
I don't normally, but you know what?
I thought, fuck it.
I thought I'd wait till afterwards, but now I'm not going to.
I'm drinking with sargon!
Fucking drinking with sargon, guys, look good fellow, man.
Get something down you right now.
I had a bong before we started.
See, I quit smoking.
So I had no choice but to invest in other means.
I don't smoke either.
I just smoke weed.
I don't smoke tobacco.
That makes sense.
I kind of got hooked on the tobacco, though, when I was in university and I started smoking weed, and it was like difficult to get it.
It was tobacco that got you.
Yeah, yeah, it was.
But I don't know what that is.
If anyone's looking for tips, right?
Get a brownie mix, get an eighth, grind the eighth up into the brownie mix, put the egg, water, and oil in, mix it all up, and then just put it in the oven, 130 degrees, no hotter.
And it's such a more efficient way of using it.
I mean, I'm working on a budget very much with everything I do.
And not only are you not smoking, it gets you caned as anything, and it lasts literally an eighth will last you for a long time.
So definitely highly recommend.
Does it not take longer to does it not take longer to take effect?
Yeah, about ten minutes.
So about two thirds into this, I'm probably going to get really caned.
Ten minutes?
Fuck that shit, man.
I need 30 seconds or less.
I'm tempted to go into fucking ejecting it into the vein under my cock as well.
Right, guys, I'm sorry to be a party pooper, but I'm going to have to go because I'm fucking starving and I want to make something to eat.
But I'll leave you a joke, right?
Is that okay?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How many men does it take to open a bottle of beer?
None.
It should be open by the time she brings it to the couch.
I'm going ahead right now, right?
So I'll speak to you all later.
Thanks for having me on.
It was an honor doing it with you, Sargon and Doctor.
Thank you.
We should do it again sometime.
Would see you later, hey.
Well, yeah, yeah, definitely in a couple of weeks or something, man.
Yes, definitely, definitely.
Cool.
Right, okay.
Be good.
Right.
And be happy.
Okay, bye-bye.
Take care, man.
Bye.
Yeah, I'll go through this article before we call it a night.
Yeah, yeah.
I know God because I know feminism.
Okay, this is going to be good.
I've heard many Christian feminists say they are feminists because of Jesus, not because of their Christianity.
I think that's great.
That's not my story, however.
I mean, I suppose Jesus probably would have been in favour of feminism.
It might not be a coincidence that history took a somewhat sideswiped gynocentric direction after him.
Yeah, it's very interesting, actually, that, because one of the problems they had with the Roman army, one thing I remember reading about, was Christians were the first sort of people to really start saying, oh, we don't want to kill other Christians.
So when they were being called to suppress an uprising of some sort, if there were Christians there, they tended not to treat them as brutally as they needed to to properly suppress an uprising.
So I don't think there are many Christian uprisings, but like you know, like Nero's crackdowns on the Christians and stuff, Christian legionaries objected to it, which was odd.
So, yeah.
So, yeah, before I.
Oh, no, I'm not a feminist because of Jesus.
I'm a Christian because of feminism.
Jesus Christ.
This is getting weird, back, IT.
Really weird.
This is uncomfortable territory I've never been in before.
Before I began to view my Christian faith through a feminist lens, I was convinced there was no redeeming it.
I grew up in conservative Christian fundamentalism, going to a church in a Christian high school I consider abusive and cult-like.
But why did you just join another abusive cult?
Even after leaving that church.
That's what feminism is.
Even after leaving that church, I couldn't shake my hatred of God.
Not just the fundamentalist God, but the God of even more socially liberated evangelical Christianity, still focused on atonement and the glorification of violence.
Does Christianity glorify violence?
Old Testament, yeah.
Well, and vicariously in the New Testament.
It seems almost as though organized religion represents fucking not male control, but visibly male control.
And feminism represents visibly female control.
And they've always been around.
But the latter only became visible after, let's say, the invention of the camera.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I really don't think Christianity glorifies violence.
I mean, the Old Testament is obviously part of Christianity.
But the thing is, a lot of what Jesus says is a direct contradiction of the Old Testament.
And yeah, he says he's here to fulfill everything in it.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And he says, don't worry about Leviticus, but I'm here to fulfill all these prophecies.
And it's like, okay, that's what I'd say too.
I mean, it was obviously a reformation of Judaism socially that was going on.
But I really don't think Christianity does glorify violence.
Everything Jesus says just makes Americans look like the least Christian country on earth.
So, you know, I don't think it glorifies violence at all.
But anyway, I didn't truly know or love God until I encountered her through feminism.
Yep, God's got a gender.
God has a gender, obviously.
Christianity taught me a lot of things I was supposed to know about God.
God is love.
God is just.
God is Trinity.
Yeah, Christianity is bonkers.
God's word made flesh through Jesus and through the body of Christ.
Yeah.
God died, buried, rose again on the third day.
Yeah, it's bullshit, mate.
God created me in God's image.
That's why you think God's a woman.
These concepts seem meaningless at best and harmful at worst to me.
Then I started reading feminist theory and theology.
Fuck me.
I can't believe I'm reading these words.
Isn't that some kind of topology?
Feminist theology.
Isn't it all?
Yeah.
It started with Rosemary Radford Ruther.
Never heard of her, actually.
Patriarchy is idolatry.
I'm definitely saving that for later.
Cannot understand God except through symbols and metaphorical language.
That's because God isn't real.
God as a powerful male is just symbols except through symbols.
Well done.
Well fucking done.
Oh yeah, I saw a feminist study a while ago that they had to go out of their way to prove that kids didn't understand abstract concepts, and they had to do loads of research into it.
It's like, really, you think that three-year-old doesn't understand abstract concepts?
What a fucking surprise.
Yeah, God as a powerful male is just one symbol.
We're not talking about Zeus, for fuck's sake.
But patriarchy has made this one symbol into an idol.
Yeah, why not?
Why not?
Why not?
Then Elizabeth A. Johnson showed me that patriarchy is.
Sorry.
Do you want to jump in?
Well, I was about to say something about the first and greatest incarnation of Christianity has been Catholicism, which is basically the cult of a virgin.
Now, isn't it?
They worship the Virgin Mary more than they worship Jesus, and they always have.
So it's a small point.
Carry on.
No, no, I think that's a really good point to make, actually.
If you look at the Protestant denomination, Virgin Mary is irrelevant.
You know, there's, I mean, she's there, she exists, but she's not important.
You know?
Not that anything's important to the Anglican Church, which is the one that I'm basing my Protestant and my vision of Protestantism off.
But yeah, TN crumpets, maybe.
But if patriarchy is idolatry, we've assumed that it is.
I mean, it must be.
I've said it.
I, as a feminist, wielding overlooked scripture in my own experience, can serve as an iconoclast.
Oh, God.
She doesn't understand what iconoclasm is.
By creating new and reaffirming old, diverse symbols for God, I can break down the idol of God as male that stood for far too long in our churches.
No, you dipshits.
Jesus was male.
I know that Jesus says I'm God, but God's like, yeah, but I'm everything and I'm not fucking anything.
Oh, this is the point.
You don't know if I exist.
So she's got God as mother hen or angry mother bear.
God as wisdom calling for justice.
Sophia just means wisdom.
God is a genderqueer king who nurtures and breastfeeds here people.
H-I-R, a tumblerism.
Why not?
Yeah, why not?
Well, I can't believe Goodfellow left before this.
This is just God as a bitchy, humorous feminist who won't shut up.
Fucking.
As if there's any other kind.
God is a bad human.
any other kind of feminist or any other kind of god.
That's the stereotypical feminist that's in her head.
God is a badass queer woman survivor like me.
I wonder what her definition of.
She's a survivor of resurrection and surviving the God, but it's not coming up, so that's probably a good thing.
Okay, right.
So then there was Belle Hooks.
Is that a name?
It's not capitalized, so I can't tell if that's a name.
Who convinced me to revisit the idea that God is love?
It must be a person.
Yeah, as Hooks says, but it's all lowercase.
Why?
Why?
I don't know.
If we do not define love.
If we do not define love and set boundaries for what love is, any abuse or injustice can be defined as loving.
Oh, God.
Yes.
Okay, so that's fine.
I'm happy to confirm that we we do in fact need definitions and boundaries for what love is.
And yes, they they don't get to define it abstractly for themselves, subjectively.
Because otherwise it starts getting absurd and paedophiles go around saying, Oh, we just love children and say, Yes, but that is also the problem.
So, yeah, okay.
Without justice, not the pointless racist patriarchal justice found in our legal systems and prison industrial complex.
But the justice of the human cause that demands rightness and fairness for the oppressed, there can be no love.
Oh my god, that is such an enormous caveat.
I just without pointless pointless.
Why pointless?
Are you suggesting the court system is pointless?
I assume that that's what they mean when they say patriarchal.
You know, the system we have now.
Racist?
Well, theoretically not.
Trying to figure out what to do with other men.
It's all just a ridiculous problem that we should do away with.
We should just trust women's intuition on these things.
God will.
And women's intuition is, you know, let's try living without men for a few centuries.
It might work.
Bonkers.
Totally pretend that's not what we're doing, but we'll try and do that.
So I think what they're saying is, you know, they don't want to go to prison.
So the justice that heals, restores, and demands rightness and fairness for the oppressed.
So the only justice is possible.
Justice is only possible if you're oppressed, I think, in this paradigm.
If you're not oppressed, then you can never really experience justice, because otherwise you wouldn't need to specifically determine that it's fairness for the oppressed.
I mean, oppression doesn't really come into the world.
Getting into fucking standpoint theory now, and that's just where my head really hurts so bad.
Yeah, that's standpoint theory.
Yeah, I'll skip on to that.
I recently found myself.
I recently found myself trying to discuss standpoint theory about how the oppressed see the world more epistemologically privileged than the non-oppressed.
So it's necessary to have the oppressed so as to see the world from a more epistemologically privileged point of view.
It's pollux.
No, no, no, okay, okay, I'm fine.
Start to finish, but it's a headwork to even think about.
They're suggesting that the oppressed have got greater understanding of the world around them because of their oppression.
Which to some degree is arguable, but they then came along and said that women are the more oppressed people, therefore they have the great they have the more epistemologically privileged standpoint.
Therefore we should stay oppressed so as to stay so, you know, goddess-like, intelligent about everything.
Yeah, absolutely.
Wouldn't it unravel itself if they were to gain the equal rights that they say they don't have?
That's that's what it does.
Feminist standpoint theory is incompatible with feminist patriarchy theory.
And yet they tried to marry it and they did successfully in academic scripture.
Of course they do it.
I I like the use of the word scripture though.
That is that is very apt.
Academic scripture.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, academic scripture.
But yeah, okay, so yeah.
Without that kind of specific justice for the oppressed, there can be no love.
Thanks to Belle Hooks, I can now look at abuse and injustice happening in the church.
And even if people are trying to call it loving, I can firmly state that this is not of God.
Is she talking about paedophile priests?
What is she talking about?
The abuse and injustice happening in the church.
I learned to see the Trinity as a diverse community, that sameness is not necessarily in the body of Christ, for it is not our differences that divide us, it's our inability to recognise, accept, and celebrate those differences.
Okay.
When you try to rationalise a belief system, it necessarily involves turning it into an incoherent liquid blob, right?
Absolutely.
So that's going to involve turning two different liquid blobs into one big fucking sponge thing.
And that can easily include feminism in religion.
If you're able to melt your fucking brain to that degree, then you can melt any amount of ideologies together.
And if the more of them have victim culture as the centre of it, the more likely it is to take off on the large scale, because victim culture sells exceptionally well.
It's bizarre, that, isn't it?
I would be offended if someone thought I was the victim of something.
You know, that is the last thing I would want to be.
So why there are these people just so brazenly like, oh, no, I'm the victim here.
I'm the victim.
It's like, okay, that's the bad thing.
Yeah, there's this big gap between recognizing that you are objectively a victim of something, and then there's thinking like a victim of something, which is very starkly portrayed in men who have been circumcised, for instance.
They literally have been victimised.
Literally, you could not get more victimised than that.
But they still go through life thinking, oh, I don't feel victimized.
And that's the fucking difference, you know, between being victimized and feeling victimized.
No, I absolutely think that's true.
Viewing yourself as a victim and then thinking as a victim seem to be very different things that they can enjoy doing.
And that might be one of the most important distinctions we have to clamp down on here, Sargon.
Because I think that's what this is all fucking about, you know?
It's a victim economy out there that needs to be dismantled completely.
Yeah, it's not.
I mean, it wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't this kind of aggressive victimhood that then preys on other people using the position of being the victim.
Like Melanie Henson saying, oh, Twitter gave me PTSD and people are like, oh, soldiers were like, shut up.
And then she emails their commanding officers saying, this person said I wasn't a victim of PTSD, I'm so offended.
As if that's a weapon.
And it's like, what are you doing?
Why would you think someone else in the military is like, what?
I'm not disciplining my soldier because you're a giant pussy.
Fuck yourself.
I mean, that's the thing, though.
Why use it as a weapon?
I mean, it's obviously a method of control, but it's pathetic.
I despair.
I do.
Yeah, so we need to.
It's our inability to recognise, accept, and celebrate those differences.
Well, yeah, I suppose that feminism isn't big on celebrating differences.
It's actually disgusted by differences and wants to eradicate them completely.
So I don't really see how those two concepts gel.
But she learned to believe in and trust the experiences she has in her daily life and in her body as a queer woman and see them as texts from which I can read if I want to discover the nature of God.
She's saying that her feelings are a window into the mind of God.
That's essentially, I think, what she's saying there.
That is I mean, this that is, I suppose, the logical conclusion of where this is all going.
You know, the divine feeling that women have and can never be wrong about.
And that really would describe God, wouldn't it?
One of the main criticisms Muslims give of the West is that you, you take these gods made these uh, rules made by God and you replace them with rules made by man and they forget.
No, these are rules made by women.
Bruv, God rules with man rules.
We replace God rules with women rules and nobody knows the fucking difference.
Yeah, believe it or not, God rules were actually man rules, written a long time ago.
There were people rules, but because, as I say, men do the building and women do the decorating, men do the visible things.
History recognizes it as man things.
Yeah yeah, whereas you know it's, it's a bit more complicated than that.
Yeah no I, I agree, I think, I think you're absolutely right there.
I love, I love the way they use survivor.
I love the use of the word survivor as if being Christian was somehow a mortal danger that she somehow overcame.
I mean, I've got a lot of, I've got a lot of criticism up towards Christianity and maybe Christians, but very few of them are actually a danger to the, unless you've actually had a, a genuine fear of hell, which a lot of people have.
You know, that is, that is something that that you know you have.
You have every right to feel a bit weird about escaping, because it's something that's not fucking natural.
It's something that didn't happen until we developed language, the ability to instill a fear of hell into children.
That's fucking mental.
Yeah interestingly, hell's a very sort of concept as well.
It wasn't in Judaism at all.
When people die yeah, it just meant the grave.
Yeah yeah, it just means the grave.
Yeah, I mean, if you like, when Moses died, they buried him, moved on when what's his, what's the?
What's the guy who conquered Jericho's name?
Now but yeah, when he died, they bury him and moved on.
Yeah, but yeah, as it was only when Jesus, Smeek And Wild came along that they developed the idea of eternal torture, and that is, you know if, if there's if, if there's a psychological fucking wall to be got over then, to be fair, that's a good candidate.
The fear of hell?
Yeah I, I always found hell to be.
I mean I, I wasn't really raised in a religious household, so none of this was like indoctrinated into me.
No, even introducing the idea to a child of eternal torture is enough to freak them out a bit, isn't it?
I think they've got an active imagination, And children do.
I found it very unrealistic.
I just didn't see why the devil would torture people.
I mean, he's God's enemy.
God sends someone to him and says, what, torture this person for all eternity?
Why is the devil going to go along with this?
He's even like, no, I'm going to treat him like a fucking king, you twat.
And my army grows, you know.
And all you'll think is up in heaven.
They have to worship.
That's the way you rationalise it by the time you're sort of old enough to rationalize it in that way.
But when you're young, just the very idea of eternal anything is spooky as fuck.
Whether it's eternal heaven or eternal hell, the idea of eternal anything when you die is spooky as fuck when you're a child.
Let alone, you know, eternity of being burned or whatever.
I remember being quite young when I realized that I believed that death just meant an eternal blackness, non-existence.
You know, I must have been that separate way.
You know, that's how I pictured it.
Just being asleep.
You know, the sort of just before you fall asleep, that sort of feeling, but just forever.
You know, just non-existence, effectively.
Yeah, that's a scary concept.
That was how Sam Harris explained it.
People aren't afraid of death any more than they're afraid of falling asleep, because it's much the same thing.
You just surrender yourself to the darkness.
What they're afraid of is what happens to other people when they die.
They're afraid of losing other people, and they want to believe that they've gone somewhere good.
I'm personally.
That's mainly how the fear of death and the fear of hell manifests itself, you know.
Yeah, well, absolutely.
I mean, I agree that it's a terrible control mechanism.
Terrible in a horrible, a telehun sort of way, not bad.
It's a very efficient control method.
Yeah.
There's a lot wrong with a lot of religions.
Yeah.
But you can see why it works.
Because it's an easily sold idea because everyone's terrified of hell.
But everyone's terrified of death.
They have been forever because they had no idea how not existing would even work.
And it's only in the last century where we've even come to terms with how information is transmitted and how even what the difference is between a living thing and a non-living thing.
We still haven't quite grasped it.
Yeah, no, it's bonkers.
I mean, shit, I had a point then, but I've lost it now.
Yeah, I do that to people.
Oy.
Okay, hang on.
I just want to get to the end of this one, right?
So, Mrita Nakashima Brock and whoever in Proverbs of Ashes to revisit the idea that suffering is redemptive and ask, what if this is not true?
Shit, that's a deep question.
Is suffering redemptive?
If it's not, why do we imprison people?
Fuck knows.
I...
I don't think I should have asked that question.
But to conclude, she says, no, no.
I don't think it is.
No?
I don't think suffering should ever be the solution to anything, should it?
I don't know.
Should is a word that we should use.
All right.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I think that we can't.
How do you solve the problem?
How do you every problem comes down to suffering, does it not?
So how do you possibly solve it by causing suffering?
It eventually comes down to the free will problem, I think.
I don't think this is necessarily to do with problems, though, isn't it?
This is about moral absolution for something already committed.
So can you be forgiven for doing something wrong if you don't suffer as part of your redemption?
You know, I mean, i like if if you murder someone and they're like, oh god, the judge has found you guilty of murder.
We're going to give you tea and cakes and then you know yeah exactly there wouldn't be much redemption there would there but if someone you know commits a murder and then spends 25 years in prison there there may well be some redemption there I think I don't know whether there should be or not but we just haven't figured out we just haven't figured out how to solve things through healing rather than suffering is the problem.
Yeah.
The idea of healing the criminal rather than making them suffer is just completely unpalatable to people.
Because they've hurt someone.
They think, no, well you can't heal them.
You can't heal people who've made someone suffer.
You have to make them suffer because of this retributive idea of morality rather than this consequentialist eye for an eye sort of hammuraby style.
Yeah.
And it's I, you know, I don't have an answer for this shit.
This has been argued forever.
It's like I say, it comes down to the free will thing.
Does anyone really, really have any control over what they've done?
You know, and and can you fix that through retributive means?
Yeah.
I'm glad someone pointed out that it was Joshua that took Jericho.
That's just come up in the comments.
I knew I began with Jay.
Yeah, I did.
I did.
I couldn't remember who it was.
Yeah, no, I don't know.
That's the thing.
I mean, I'm like, you know, I'm very humanist and I don't like the idea of people suffering.
I think all suffering is a bad thing, effectively.
Yeah.
But conversely, I don't think it's very pragmatic to not punish criminals in some way.
You know, to I mean, there has to be some kind of negative reinforcement there to let them know that it's, you know, what they're going to do is such a bad thing that we're going to take quite immoral steps against them if they do it.
Yeah, it's it's it's working out how to make it a deterrent and a cure at the same time.
And that's sort of almost logically contradictory.
If they think they're going to get cured for their thing, then they're just going to do it and that's not going to deter them from doing it.
So it's really fucking difficult.
Yeah, it's probably beyond the the scope of my podcast.
Well, yeah, it's it's leagues beyond mine.
I just dick about and make people laugh.
That's basically what I started doing.
So yeah, so the the conclusion is feminism, though it like scripture itself is flawed because it's the work of human hands can be prophetic.
It can be revelation.
It can be God's word in history.
God working in the world to draw us near to her.
So it can be whatever you like.
So go on and fucking worship it.
Like every fucking religion ever, it's wildly open to interpretation.
No use to anyone.
You can believe anything you like.
Just slap the same fucking word on front of yourself as us and it'll be awesome.
Everyone will be equal after that.
Do you get me?
Yeah.
That is exactly.
It's this weird cult where they need the word valifi uh validated.
It's bizarre.
But um we should probably call it night here man, 'cause it's uh oh yeah, I've had fun.
Yeah, we've been doing straight.
Yeah, I have too.
I hope Goodfella did it.
But yeah, I'm sure I'll uh I'm sure I'll invite you back.
I'll be here every fucking time.
I never leave this desk, honestly.
My entire life is on this two by four bit of four mica.
That's fair enough.
I'm the same with mine.
I just work on my game all day.
Thankfully though, I've got like I've got definitive goals that I'm reaching.
You know, I'm like, oh, do all the levels, right?
I've done all the levels, right?
Do you know this thing next, right, I've done that, you know, so I can see it coming closer to the conclusion, which is good because it really feels like it's going to go on forever.
I'm looking forward to be finished.
That's the good thing about doing three minute cartoons.
It's done after a week and you go, Yay!
Something's finished.
Yeah, the game does your own thing.
It's half a year to complete a project like it does if you're in games.
Yeah, yeah.
I wish I'd just started with something really small.
But I'm I've got to make something that I find interesting, you know?
Yeah.
I'm not the sort of.
Did you ever see that flappy bird game?
Flappy Bird?
Yeah.
It was an iPhone game where basically you had a bird that was flying along and it'd fall to earth.
No, no, no, it's different.
It's different.
You'd fly along and it'd fall to earth and you had to press the screen to make it fly up a little bit.
Just like a jump, like a double jump, you know, in the air sort of thing.
Oh, and it went through a sort of maze thing.
Yeah, a series of pipes.
Yeah, yeah, I think I know it.
It was just the simplest possible fucking game.
Now, this this spawned.
I'm part of like loads of indie development groups and stuff.
And I swear to God, several times a day you would have Flappy Bird clones being posted that other people have made and are just uploading to the app store to get, you know, a few random sales off it, you know, and stuff like that.
And it was, it was.
It's become like a meme in the indie development community where it's just a fucking Flappy Bird clone, you know, and it and that's for any kind of you know clone of a popular game.
Now, and I could have done that, you know it would have taken me a day to knock up one of those things.
Probably would have made some money as well.
I just couldn't bring myself to do it.
Yeah anyway anyway, just learning to write songs, and you're right yeah, you do music.
Yeah, what sort of stuff do you do?
Picturing prog rock?
Well I yeah, at first I did, when I had the patience to do prog rock.
I did long songs, but then I started doing cartoons because I thought I'd rather entertain people than so what sort of cartoons do you do?
I don't think I've seen any of them.
The channel that's where I put all my cartoons.
Sorry, man, you can't do it.
Oh shit, sorry.
Dark Cheese T V is the name of my other my other YouTube channel.
My other partner YouTube channel.
Where I do all my cartoons.
Some of them are musical.
Yeah, some are some of them are based on a musical idea I had.
Hmm.
Let's have a look.
How many not bad?
Okay, I'll have a look at that.
So is there any overarching point behind the cartoons or do you do them for fun?
Cheers, they're just rants I had that I eventually sort of sculpted down to a to a character conflict.
I'm desperate for a piss, Sargon.
How long can you hold on?
Well, however long, man.
I'm not going anywhere.
Well, right, give me two minutes.
Talk to these people.
Hang on.
Right, everyone.
Hmm.
Right, what do I want to talk about?
I could show you something on Necromancer if you guys want.
And that's what you're yeting.
So deal with it.
Hang on.
Do I have app?
I do have app.
Welcome to game development.
Oh, wow, that's terrible.
Terrible sizing.
Yeah, the.
There we go.
That's more like it.
Right, this is my game.
So you are this dude.
And we'll just go for this one.
One of the new ones.
So the premise is that you're an evil necromancer.
There are going to be plenty of bugs and whatnot.
See this line, this line here?
It's because I resized the prefab and I haven't moved it.
Yeah, so basically you move yourself around, you've got these groups, and you can raise zombies.
You can give them orders, so you can see misaligned tiles.
I'm terrible.
in this group I'm going to put some ranged guys Okay, the soldiers have got grenades and they tend to take out groups of zombies quite efficiently.
But I managed to kill those two soldiers without any particular trouble.
Ah, shit, see?
Normally, I've got basically an infinite amount of zombies.
You get an infinite amount of the standard sort of chumps.
Christ, these zombies are doing alright, actually.
But you normally get a very limited supply of the special zombies.
But I'm testing it, so I have vast numbers of them.
Shit.
Hey!
What are we looking at?
My game.
I'll stop that now.
Oh, awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've just got to the point where it doesn't look too bad now, so I don't mind showing people.
Sweet.
Yeah, it's something to do.
I didn't see any of the comments actually.
I was too busy playing it.
Yeah, it's Unity, yeah.
Yeah, this must be one of the frustrating things about doing things that take a year or more to complete, you know?
You don't because I often take it for granted that when I f oh, it's already immediately there for everyone to enjoy.
Yeah, I mean, it's it's only taken about seven, eight months so far, so still you have this.
Yeah, well, this is actually paying my rent at the moment.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
If I didn't have all the adverts on YouTube and the adults.
Yeah, I've I d I d I wasn't expecting this kind of success.
I mean.
But the thing is it, it couldn't have come at a better time because, I swear to God, the Tories are cunts no, seriously.
I was unemployed and and so I s I started on this um new enterprise, which is, you know, a way of, you know, starting new businesses and stuff, but they're really cracking down on housing benefits, so I don't get any housing benefits.
I get £33 a week from the job center and I don't get any housing benefits.
So if it wasn't for my YouTube channel, I'd be on the street.
I should have thought of this before I got a fucking job.
I'll tell you what.
Yeah, but I think the only reason I've managed to get as many subscribers as I have is because I can work on it as if it was a job.
You know I can spend a lot more time on it.
I think most, most people can.
It's because you have a lovely voice, Sargon and Boo there will be feminists in my game that you can fight.
I can't give you a sneak preview yet but I I you you'll you'll know her when you see her It won't be a zombie, Big Red, because the zombies are on your team.
I have the weirdest boner right now.
Yeah, me too.
But, yeah, I'm quite pleased that that's going.
It was originally designed to be a fairly small tablet game.
I mean, it is is for tablets as well as PC and you know I was, I was planning to have it quite small, but people, it's multiplayer, it's got cooperative multiplayer in it and people have been saying well, you know, why can't we have versus where we can have?
You know, someone can control the, the humans thinking that's not a bad idea actually.
So that's something I'll be, I'll be getting into at some point because for some reason, I'm way ahead of my art department, and when I say art department, I mean my friend and the person we're paying to make.
So yeah, I might, I might do that.
So I've got versus, but yeah anyway, so I'll stop there.
It's good to good to have a little snapshot into your life.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to rolling it out, but I don't want to do it until it's in a good looking condition, because the first bite's always with the eye and if it, if it doesn't look good, then people are really critical.
You know, and it's like I can understand why, but I'm from the sort of old school of gaming where the graphics were never any good.
It was always about how the game played.
That was important.
So yeah, I dropped out of gaming after the AM64 and since then I've been into retro gaming.
Just about, how old do you play?
How old do I play?
What do you play?
Sometimes all the way back to Super Nintendo, sometimes all the way back to Intellivision, sometimes all the way back to the Acorn Electron.
Yeah, I've lost a lot of people.
Now we're talking 80s yo, yeah.
Yeah, we are talking eighties.
How old are you?
I'm thirty two, a couple of years younger than yourself.
I thought you were probably twenty four, twenty five, even with the beard.
Really, I didn't know which way you were going to go there.
I say no, you've got this kind of youthful exuberance in your videos.
Thank you.
Interesting, it's very interesting.
Or maybe I just look really fucking old.
So I I mean what's, what's like your favourite old school game?
well doom not because of the gameplay not just because of the gameplay but because they brought out editors the amount of fun I had with Doom editors making like designing levels and and just All the time.
Hacking with it.
That's how I learned.
That's how I learned to make the 3D sort of spaces for my cartoons.
Just learning how to design Doom levels.
It was so much fun just making your own torture traps to walk into.
I actually made things like libraries and stuff.
I don't know why.
I was just so pleased that I managed to make it look like a half-convincing library.
And my friends, I was like, a library with 100 arch files in it, right?
Yeah, well, yeah, obviously.
I used to quite like making levels where the monsters couldn't quite get each other.
And you'd run between them and they'd shoot, hit each other, and then start firing on each other.
I was immensely amusing for some reason.
But it was to the point where I remember when I was a kid, and your friends come around and call you come out sort of thing.
And apparently I used to say quite often, no, I'm making Doom levels.
And they'd be like, man, you're fucking sad.
I'm enjoying it.
I made a bunch of them in the late 90s, and then they got lost to an old hard drive for a decade, and I found them again, like a decade later, and started playing them.
And playing through and thinking, I can't find my way through this puzzle.
Fuck you, Mike, of ten years ago.
There isn't even a fucking walkthrough on the internet for this shit, because no one knows how it works except you and me, Mike, from ten years ago.
You fucking again past me.
I then moved on to making Half-Life levels.
Yeah.
That was the good thing about Doom, because Doom got only as far as that whole illusion or a 2.5D sort of thing.
It wasn't really 3D, it was just this stacked 2D thing.
So it was easy to design levels.
Just easy enough for a 14-year-old, you know.
Did you have DoomEd by any chance?
The DOS editor.
I had Wadmaster and there was an EXE editor as well.
I can't remember what it was called.
There was a different editor for the WADs and a different editor for the EXE files.
Yeah, I have both.
I remember using DoomEd at first, but it was exceptionally complicated, if I remember correctly.
Well, yeah, everything was back in the DOS days.
Well, it was, yeah, and that was the thing.
As soon as I went to Half-Life, they had this thing called Worldcraft or something.
And it was magical.
It was like just exactly sort of like 3D interface sort of, you know, where it was like you were in a Half-Life level, but you were just moving things around and placing them where you want.
You can create cubes and texture them, so you could create walls and stuff like that, and place enemies.
And you could do this thing called Carve, which is a function I've never seen anywhere else.
And I swear to God, I would love to see in every editor ever.
Where you basically take an object, place it amongst other objects, press the carve button, and it just literally carves that shape out of the objects.
So it was really easy to create seamless sort of corridors.
And you could hollow out objects.
So you could create a room by creating a big cube, click hollow.
That's kind of what Minecraft is, in a way, isn't it?
It's just a make your own game game thing, isn't it?
Yeah, it effectively was.
But you could make some really beautiful levels in it.
It was really impressive stuff.
For literally like 1999 or something, it was really good.
I miss those days now.
I think, oh Christ.
Yeah, we had our learning curve at the same time as the industry did, in a way.
Yeah, it's very interesting, isn't it?
One thing that I one thing I'm really bothered with these days is video game institutions and courses at school and universities.
It's not so much that I think they're a bad idea, because I think the skills they're teaching are a good idea.
But they've got specific thoughts on how to make games.
And I appreciate that that is a discipline that does need to be studied.
But one of the things I have a significant problem with is institutional sort of calcification.
You know, there always tends to be a best way to do things.
Yeah, it's much the same with comedy.
There's people out there who think they can give you courses on how to do stand-up comedy properly.
And there's a good reason for thinking they're all full of shit.
Because there is no rule.
At the deepest level of it, it's just you've got to learn how to make your own rules until it works properly.
You see what I mean?
Oh, no, absolutely.
I'm a big fan of comedy.
And yeah, I totally agree.
And that's the same with gaming.
It's very similar.
It's like, you know, it's not always predictable what's going to be fun.
It's almost never predictable.
Yeah, absolutely.
And well, sometimes it is.
Once you've gone beyond a certain technical ability.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, you get to I mean, now that the first-person shooter exists, everyone's like, oh, yeah, first-person shooters, that's a very standard, definite archetype that's very easy to create a first-person shooter that anyone who has played a first-person shooter will instantly slip into, and they'll have fun playing it because it's fundamentally interactive, and there's a good feeling of agency playing the game.
But then these things, they just, I think Calcify is just the only word I can think of where over time, like the institution grows, so it becomes incredibly codified and uniform.
And so I think that people breed, that institutions breed.
When you've got people who have had success in this way, say, this is how this is done, then people tend not to question it so much and try not to think outside of the box.
I forget who it was who said it.
It was probably Confucius or something.
The superior man knows what works, the inferior man knows what will sell.
Something like that.
And in the age of mass media, the ability to sell has rapidly outgrown the ability to actually out compete.
You see what I mean?
Yeah, absolutely.
And you know, whatever you can put on the front of your thing has become rapidly more important than the actual substance of the thing in this age in which you can sell your head very efficiently.
That makes no sense.
You know what I mean, though?
It's broadcast media now, where it didn't exist 100 years ago.
The rules have completely changed as to how you advertise your product.
Yeah, I mean, just brand names are so more important these days.
A brand is in everything as well.
I mean, if you look at movies, you get people talking about a movie comes out and then suddenly it's a universe.
Everyone treats it like a separate universe, which is fine.
And artistically, that's very useful.
But everything has to have it.
You know, and it just...
If it's an assumption, then people...
It's a paperism to some degree, isn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah, but what I mean is it kind of begs the question.
It forces people to say, well, if we have an entire universe, which by default we have, now we must fill it with sequels and endless money because people enjoyed the universe when they were first introduced to it.
And now we have to exploit that for every penny it's worth.
Yeah, we've got to a generation where there's enough existing universes that it's just easier to sell an existing universe than create a new one.
Which is why most high-grossing movies now are in remakes and sequels and adaptations.
Yeah.
I'm I I swear to God, reboots are the most unnecessary thing in the world.
I I can't imagine how and uh I can't imagine anything less necessary than a reboot of a fictional story.
Unless you're looking from a marketing perspective.
I mean then that's what's gonna sell 'cause this is what people like already.
Yeah, I I I I feel kind of bad for the kids today because I got new and innovative stuff.
You know, I got teenage mutant ninja turtles.
That was brand new to me.
It was brand new for anyone.
You know, I I at least got to feel like I was on the cutting edge of something.
But, you know, redoing films that, you know, I liked for new kids, they're not getting anything new.
I'm just looking at it now.
It was good having something that your parents didn't get, you know, something that the generation above didn't get.
Yeah.
That's being slowly erased by this just remanufacturing the same shit that your parents had.
Yeah, the I'm the cultural sort of homogenization bothers me.
You know, I don't know, there's something about it that just it's weird.
I don't like it.
But then I see what like independent people produce and I think, oh, I don't like that either.
Yeah, lady ghostbusters, exactly, Nicholas.
Lady Ghostbusters.
Oh, do not get me started again.
No, go on.
I want to I want to hear your take on it.
No, you there's a a Honey Budget nodcast in which I go into this in great detail.
Well what was your what was your what was your conclusion?
I I had a great deal of um theories as to why the Ghostbusters are male and I don't want to go into it again because I don't have it written down here and I you you've got your own fucking we we we probably feel the same way.
Probably.
I just it's oh fuck's sake.
Why?
Just why, why, why, why?
Because everyone's bored.
Everyone's bored and trying to change things because they can't think of new things.
Well yeah, that's the thing, isn't it?
It's co-opting a franchise for an ideological purpose.
You know, I saw articles about it feels like it's more of a why not situation than an ideological situation, if I mean.
I mean it's it's allowed to happen because of the ideological zeitgeist at the time, but it's still just this fucking fireworks display of why not.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
But the thing is that I was arguing with a feminist about this and that they they they couldn't understand I think it was optium they they couldn't understand why I was saying it's a bad thing for like women.
You know, if a bad thing for if if you're going to say that women have a culture, which is effectively what feminists are trying to say, and they may well do, it it you know, it if you want to take something that was built by men, made popular by men, and then repurpose it to fit women, then women have been left out of the innovative sort of cycle.
You know that they it's not like you know, these things don't just spring out of nowhere.
The the people who made Ghostbusters were inspired by something else they'd seen prior, you know, and a a few things probably clicked together to form the idea of, hey, wouldn't it be great to have like, you know, Ghostbusters?
Yeah, it's a great idea.
And uh and if if you're not doing that, it's not something that just happens without any kind of practice.
You know, I think this is a skill.
Uh uh I you know, and I I I I think that leaving women out of the development process and just co-opting something else someone has made is never going to encourage them to join the development process to create something new and original.
Yeah, it's going to make them join the performing process.
That is much how it works in the you know I I was a drama student and I've tried briefly to get into the acting industry and is you know that's women go into it 'cause they want to be there and much less proportionally than men go into it because they want to make things happen.
And it's just going more and more in that direction.
Every drama department in the country is mostly women by the way and they would never even dream of bringing in quotas to make it fifty-fifty men.
I'm not surprised whatsoever.
But but yeah it's it's it it really is that sort of thing and I suppose it does come down to the whole mechanical play, boys having desire to build things.
But it just annoys me that nothing nothing can be left alone.
You know, that's the it you know, it's it's not for you sort of thing.
That's it was made this is my problem with you know feminism in the video game industry.
This is the entire problem.
Men created these games.
They paid for these games.
They literally put all the time and effort to make these industries what they are.
When people were saying, oh, that's shit.
You're an idiot for liking that.
That's shit.
And now that they're established, oh, actually, we love video games.
You want to get innovative?
Oh, do you?
You know, I know I'm being petty.
I know I'm being you've made the same point, Mario.
A lot of people made when it's unpopular, except among these male geeks.
Yeah.
Everyone goes, meh.
And then when suddenly it's popular in the media and whatever, suddenly women jump on it and said, yay, we've been into this all along.
Yeah, we just didn't show it or pay for it.
But now I want you to change this because now we like it.
And it's just like, look, just because now you like it, you liked it when men built it to men's preferences.
You know, if you want to come in and change it, then you're not you're going to create something you don't like.
And you're also going to create something that I don't like.
And so I, like I imagine a lot of other men are probably going to go elsewhere.
And, you know, what are you going to do?
You're going to be sat there with this like really torpid sort of industry where no creativity and innovation is happening.
And you're going to see all these men who have defected.
And you were like, oh no, no, fucking good riddance, you fucking sexist.
Oh, fuck yourself.
And they're going to have built something really interesting over there.
And you'd be like, oh, that looks good.
That's kind of what's happening.
That's why YouTube's more interesting than the television right now.
I wouldn't know.
I haven't watched the fucking television for months.
I don't know what's happening over there.
But I reckon we're more entertaining, Sargon.
What do you think?
I think we are to us.
But no, I think I really do think that is actually the case, man.
I think that the alternative media that we technically are part of is one of those things that's growing very rapidly because it it's been colonized, you know, driving things, driving people away from the things that they made.
And I don't really think that's right.
You know, I don't think that if a bunch of women created, I don't know, a sewing circle or something, you know, and they set up the sewing circle, they put a lot of money towards it, they went every week and they all have their new things.
Whatever they do there, I don't know what they do.
They learn new skills and whatnot, produce things.
And I went over there and was like, right, but this isn't really competitive enough.
You know, I've just got into sewing and that's cool.
I like this.
This is all right.
But can we have rankings?
You know, and we want prizes for the people who win.
And I'm not going to be the best sewer, so at first I'm not going to win.
But that gives me the drive to compete.
And, you know, I love the way you're all writing poetry, ladies, but who's got the best poem?
Come on now.
Exactly.
That's the thing.
You know, this is the thing.
I want competition.
We don't do that shit because we understand boundaries.
Exactly.
But no, I go there and you know, week after week I'm getting better and I'm I'm I'm second.
But there's this old woman, she's been sewing for a long time.
She's amazing at it.
But I literally spend like a month doing this thing.
I practice press passing, and it's amazing.
I demolish them.
There's no getting around it.
I'm absolutely the khm.
Oh, shit.
Did I lose you?
Make a new one without this guy.
It's exactly the sort of thing that's happening with the gaming industry.
I swear to God.
I swear to God.
There's some people in the comments asking, yeah, I'm the programmer for my game and level designer and various other things.
I guess what do you think Marco DeSilvo's right?
There'll be an alternative games industry.
I think that I don't think it'll be necessarily a separate industry.
I think the platforms to sell games will still be Steam, Google Play, App Store, and all that.
But I think there'll be an alternative press.
And like I said in the last this weekend's stupid video, I think that Cheshire Cat Studios and people like that are going to be very much behind that sort of thing.
Very much.
I think it's definitely going that way.
I think there's definitely a schism because people like Kotaku and The Escapist and all these other very pro-feminist social justice warrior-y things.
I mean, you guys know who Bob Chipman is, right?
No?
No, he's a...
It'll take a while for the comment session to answer, but let's give him a...
Yeah.
They'll...
They'll know who he is.
He's a video game journalist who absolutely hates white males and masculinity because he was bullied a lot at school.
And he's quoted from saying something like, if high school wasn't hell for you, then you were the reason that it was hell.
And I'm thinking, Christ, me in the War Games room was making it hell for everyone.
We were there painting our space marines and playing Dungeons and Dragons.
I didn't realise how bad I made Bob Sharp.
Fucking.
Bob, do you think it might have been a few of the jackasses on the fucking football team who did this to you?
You twat.
You know, they don't represent all men.
But anyway, you've got that side of the gaming press, and then you've got the more realistic anti-social justice warrior side that is just like, yeah, okay, women in games is fine, but let's focus on the games rather than the women.
Yeah, Alessandro says he prefers Yazzie.
I do as well.
You can tell that he doesn't buy into all this social justice bollocks, but he can't say anything about it.
So he just kind of subtly mocks it.
It's quite good, actually.
Did you see my send-up of Yahtzee?
No, I didn't, actually.
I did an animation sort of taking the piss and sort of roasting him appreciatively at the same time.
The best kind.
No, no, I think he's a fantastically entertaining journalist.
Well, very much.
He's the only reason I've ever gone to Escapist.
95% of their patrons.
Yeah, I don't mind Jim Cosition.
I don't mind Jim Sterling.
He's a manginer.
But when you're talking about anything else than gender, he's alright.
He knows what he's talking about.
He seems on it.
I like Angry Joe a lot on YouTube, though.
He's exactly what I want out of a game journalist.
He's excited about the games.
And I saw his Rome Total War 2 review.
And I love the first one.
He's just, you fucked it up.
And that's exactly how I felt.
He knows what he wants out of a Rome game because he's a fucking gamer.
That's fundamentally what it's about for him.
He's in there for the game.
And the game's fucked up.
He made perfectly reasonable points, and they're all correct, right?
But the other ones, they talk about Assassin's Creed.
Oh, Assassin's Creed's terrible because it had four playable characters, and not one of them was a female.
Oh, yeah.
That must be an awful game.
Tell me how bad that game is.
Well, they haven't got a female character, blah, blah, blah.
It's like, yeah, but how's the game?
That's my major problem.
I suppose Super Mario 2 was the only playable Super Mario, you see, because it had a princess in it.
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
That's literally what they would say.
But yeah, it's one o'clock in the morning, so I should probably wrap this up really.
Yeah, whenever you're ready, dude.
Like I say, I appear to be drunk enough to carry on forever and a day.
So it's up to you when we anchor this.
Yeah, we probably should, because I need to get up early and do the this week in Stupid.
Yeah.
That's the thing about Patreon, right?
I said on there, I'd create a regular schedule if I reached $75.
And I was like, oh, I'm never going to do that.
That's miles away.
It's never going to have to happen.
And now it's happened.
Oh, shit.
Now I've got responsibilities.
Yeah, I've got a cartoon to upload tomorrow.
It's quite funny.
You all should watch.
Yeah, yeah, no, everyone should watch it.
I've subscribed to his channel.
I'll put a link in the description for this when it's uploaded.
These aren't quite as popular as the rants, but I'm pushing them anyway.
It's a different audience.
That's what I spend my time on.
Yeah.
The same with me and the history and the gaming stuff.
I know it's not as popular as anti-feminism stuff, but I don't want my channel just to be entirely about the negative emotional black hole that is feminist.
Even my cartoons are about anti-feminism stuff.
Apparently they're not as compelling as my face when I'm dealing with the evil people.
I think it's the evil people alongside my face that sell it.
I don't know.
Your videos have made me tempted to do a video clip in between rather than just the audio clip.
Because one thing I do notice that you have that I don't is obviously facial expression.
And a lot can be given in merely the expression, which you had one point in one video that I absolutely loved.
I can't remember exactly what you were saying, but it's not like, blah, blah, I'm not saying feminism is responsible for this.
Watch me as I directly imply it, though.
Excellent.
Absolutely fucking brilliant, Matt.
I was cracking up.
Yeah.
I think that's why MRAs are a little bit more dominant on places like YouTube than they are in places like Facebook and Tableau.
Because you can actually express things as your face actually expresses them.
You can't be misconstrued by whatever silly voice people feel like reading your text in, if you see what I mean.
Yeah, absolutely.
The emotional resonance is there.
The drama behind it.
It's yeah, very much.
Very much so.
Yeah, I totally agree.
It humanizes people as well.
Just a human voice.
You can't hide behind anything as ambiguous as text in YouTube.
And that's why feminists don't do very well there.
It is, actually, isn't it?
They can't hide what complete cunts they are.
In actuality, that woman who did the male feminist ally thing.
And then Melissa something, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and the.
I believe that chick is real.
I know, the judgy, condescending tone is like, I just want to...
There is no self-awareness.
I know, I know.
How did you think?
I mean, I saw the down votes on that video.
Even with a feminist audience, it was mostly down votes.
And it's just like, how can you feel that that was ever going to just get anything but disdain from other people, you pillock, you know?
Fucking hell.
She's helpful, though.
She's pushing people from not just a feminist all the way to anti-feminist.
Yeah, oh my fucking God, I did not realize feminists were like that.
Yeah, I don't think anything like that.
Okay, this is unfixable now.
Let's just end madness.
Yeah, absolutely.
But yeah, right.
Thanks very much for joining us.
And thank you for being here, even though he isn't here to hear this.
But I do appreciate him coming on.
And I know he's always in high demand.
Everyone always asks me, where's Goodfella?
So I can't not bring him on now.
I can do my best impression of him if you like.
Well, I can try and be the true scores when you like.
Well, I'll leave you to do a Good Friller impression to talk us out then.
What do you call a dog with wings today?
Linda McCartney.
That's all I got.
It's a damn.
Thank you very much.
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