Bannon's War Room - Episode 5339: Hegseth Takes On The Senate Aired: 2026-05-01 Duration: 48:46 === Words Matter in Defense (02:45) === [00:00:00] Communities as hypocritical or morally corrupt. [00:00:02] You doubled down again and said it. [00:00:05] Words matter. [00:00:07] Words matter. [00:00:08] What you choose to say, how we choose to say it. [00:00:11] How do you justify using this language as Secretary of Defense? [00:00:15] Words matter. [00:00:15] It's a historically hurtful term. [00:00:18] Why do you continue to use it? [00:00:20] And what actions are you taking to prevent rhetoric like this from permeating throughout the department that is going to target specific groups or individuals of people based on their religion? [00:00:34] Senator, I feel like it's a pretty accurate term for folks who don't see the plank in their own eye and always want to see what's wrong with an operation as opposed to the historic success of preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. [00:00:45] So I stand by it. [00:00:46] You stand by calling people Pharisees. [00:00:49] Sir, I cannot, I cannot stand for that. [00:00:54] That is wrong. [00:00:55] It is not respectful to people. [00:00:57] And I expect anyone who is in leadership in our country. [00:01:02] To be respectful and use respectful terms and not be an anti Semite. [00:01:10] Well, Pete Hexad is an incompetent fool. [00:01:13] He is a misogynist and he's been trying to get rid of women's role in our military. [00:01:19] He obviously must have lost out a promotion to a female service member at some point and is, you know, on a personal vendetta. [00:01:27] But bottom line, in the testimony, he said, We are doing this to the highest male standard, as if there were only two standards in the military. [00:01:35] And in fact, The physical fitness standards are actually graduated based on age as well. [00:01:42] So, a 40 year old serviceman does not have to run the two miles as fast as an 18 year old serviceman. [00:01:51] So, it is also differentiated by age as well as by gender. [00:01:55] And frankly, you know, someone who served in a combat arms branch, and I volunteered to serve in the first combat arms branch that actually accepted women into combat roles, which is as a helicopter pilot. [00:02:07] You know, I know what the experience is. [00:02:10] I know that our women who have met those standards have met the standards. [00:02:14] They're doing their jobs. [00:02:16] They are actually out there participating and taking care of the business at hand. [00:02:21] And frankly, our nation's military could not go to war without its female service members. [00:02:25] And yet, Pete has got this on this personal vendetta. [00:02:28] In fact, he's fired every female four star general and tried to stop the additional promotion of two African American women generals from getting additional stars. [00:02:40] And that's why, you know, the former Army Chief of Staff quit. === Clarifying Deployment Claims (15:31) === [00:02:45] Axios is reporting that the CENTCOM commander, Admiral Bradley Cooper, is briefing Trump on Iran options right now. [00:02:53] These are two sources who spoke with Axios. [00:02:55] A short and powerful wave of strikes on Iran to break the negotiating deadlock, taking over part of the Strait of Hormuz to reopen it to commercial shipping that would include ground operations. [00:03:07] And the third option, special forces operation to destroy. [00:03:11] To secure Iran's stockpile of highly enriched uranium. [00:03:15] So, Secretary, do you think any of those right now, given the stalemate that we are in, are wise options? [00:03:25] Well, I think that the White House and certainly the military leaders understand that putting any boots on the ground or continuing any military action. [00:03:43] Is not going to be supported by the American people. [00:03:46] It's not going to be supported by the Congress. [00:03:49] And so the idea that suddenly we're going to go back to war in order to ultimately arrive at some kind of solution here is crazy. [00:03:58] So the issue is going to be, what is it going to take? [00:04:02] I mean, the president himself has said so often, within a couple days, we'll end this war. [00:04:07] Within a couple days, we'll end this war. [00:04:09] You can't end the war unless you're negotiating. [00:04:13] And right now, each side has decided they're waiting for the other side to blink. [00:04:19] It's time for negotiations. [00:04:21] It's time for the president to send representatives to Abbottabad to meet with Iran and negotiate. [00:04:28] On the Straits of Hormuz, negotiate on the issue of nuclear and how to limit the nuclear capabilities, and negotiate on sanctions. [00:04:40] That needs to be negotiated. [00:04:43] That's the way it works. [00:04:45] It's not just going to happen. [00:04:46] You can't throw a few more bombs at Iran and expect that that's going to work as well. [00:04:52] What you've got to do is negotiate and come to an agreement to end the war, period. [00:04:58] The president has been very clear. [00:04:59] He said in the State of the Union that essentially, His side doesn't win, then the election was rigged. [00:05:05] He said that before the 2020 election. [00:05:07] He's asked for voter rolls for 29 different states. [00:05:11] He just asked for Detroit's votes or ballots. [00:05:16] And we know that in 2020, he wrote an executive order that he didn't sign that said to the U.S. military, to the Secretary of Defense, you should go and seize ballots and voting machines. [00:05:30] A few months ago, he said that he regretted that he ever didn't sign. [00:05:34] That executive order. [00:05:36] So the US military has never been deployed. [00:05:39] You miscorrectly, incorrectly said yesterday that they were deployed during different elections. [00:05:45] Governors deployed them under their authorities, but the federal government has never put the uniformed military at our polls during World War II, right after 9 11. [00:05:57] We've never had to do that. [00:05:58] So, Secretary Hegseth, if the president, who regrets not signing that executive order to the then SecDef in 2020, asks you to seize ballots. [00:06:09] Or voting machines in states during the 2026 election, will you stand up for the Constitution and say no, or will you salute and do his bidding? [00:06:21] Senator, I didn't get a chance to answer the front part of your question, which, you know, there was a lot of deferred maintenance under the Biden administration that needed to be addressed because the world was in chaos when President Trump was elected. [00:06:31] Just a question, please. [00:06:32] Well, again, that's the most important thing. [00:06:34] It's what's happening. [00:06:35] It's yet another gotcha hypothetical, which is your specialty. [00:06:39] It's not. [00:06:40] We have an executive order. [00:06:42] It's my understanding that the definition of no quarter is that legitimate offers of surrender will be refused or that detainees will be executed. [00:06:58] Is that your understanding of the definition? [00:07:02] The only entity that would kill detainees or target civilians is the Iranians, and they're the ones being crushed. [00:07:08] So you. [00:07:08] The Iranian military and their military capabilities. [00:07:11] The question is. [00:07:12] I disagree completely with your articulation. [00:07:14] No, do you understand the definition that I just read you? [00:07:17] Because that's the definition from your department's law of war manual. [00:07:23] Is that your understanding? [00:07:24] And I'm going to just get to the point here. [00:07:26] We fight to win and we follow the law, Senator. [00:07:28] Okay, so your quote was We will keep pushing, keep advancing, no quarter, no mercy for our enemies. [00:07:37] And yesterday you did not clarify whether you stand by this statement. [00:07:41] So I'm going to give you another opportunity to clarify. [00:07:45] If that is what you meant, do you stand by that statement you made on March 13th? [00:07:53] We have untied the hands of our warfighters. [00:07:56] We fight to win, and we follow the law. [00:07:58] Okay, so you're not clarifying. [00:08:00] So you stand by that statement. [00:08:01] So you're the Secretary of Defense. [00:08:03] The things you say matter. [00:08:05] And your response here, right now, makes it clear to the American people exactly why you are not right for this matter. [00:08:14] It makes it clear to our enemies, Senator. [00:08:17] It's not a hypothetical. [00:08:18] I refuse to accept. [00:08:19] You give that answer all the time. [00:08:20] You and I have done this dance before. [00:08:22] Get over it, okay? [00:08:24] In 2020, he's the president, your boss, the guy you're performing for right now, told the journalists this year that he wished he signed that executive order to your predecessor. [00:08:35] And your predecessor said publicly, Thank God, we didn't actually go forward with it. [00:08:39] What are you going to do? [00:08:40] You're the guy here in the seat. [00:08:42] It's not hypothetical. [00:08:44] Tell the American people will you deploy the uniformed military to our polls to collect voter rolls or machines? [00:08:51] Are you accusing me of performing because you're performing for cable news right now? [00:08:55] Dude, it's a hypothetical. [00:08:59] By the way, in 2024, under the Biden administration, 15 states did deploy. [00:09:03] Under their governor's authority, when their governors asked for them. [00:09:05] What did Joe Biden say about that? [00:09:06] Fundamentally, I don't think anything because he needed them for cybersecurity and for COVID. [00:09:11] Trump did it too, under Trump. [00:09:13] But it was not the federal decision. [00:09:15] It was those governors of the states under their authorities, okay? [00:09:19] It's never been done in our history. [00:09:21] Please stand up for the Constitution. [00:09:23] Do not send. [00:09:24] Uniform military to our polls. [00:09:27] Do you have a response to that portion of the question, Mr. Secretary? [00:09:31] I've never been ordered to do anything illegal, and I won't. [00:09:35] Well, I think that direction from your behavior is an intense interest in Christianity, in nationalism, and in not recognizing the talents of women and non white gentlemen. [00:09:55] And that's The wrong direction. [00:09:58] I don't know what you're insinuating, Senator, but I am not ashamed of my faith in Jesus Christ. [00:10:02] Well, you shouldn't be. [00:10:03] And if you want to shame me for it, go ahead. [00:10:05] I'm not shaming you, but are you critical of other faiths? [00:10:12] I am a believer. [00:10:13] I'm quite open in that, and our department allows for a multitude of faiths. [00:10:16] So I don't know what you're suggesting. [00:10:18] I've heard the likes of things that people like you suggest to try to smear up my character, and I won't give into it. [00:10:24] No. [00:10:27] I'm sorry, Mr. Secretary, but broadcasting before the national religious broadcasters, stressing the need for more Christianity in the military forces, doesn't seem like a neutral position in which you tolerate and accept all religions. [00:10:47] Jack Reed, I mean, I thought you were educated at West Point, brother. [00:10:52] It is Thursday, 30 April, year of our Lord, 2026. [00:10:57] You saw the. [00:10:59] Circus and clown show. [00:11:01] Was it Jackie Rosen that opened that with what did she? [00:11:05] She was getting on Pete for using Pharisees. [00:11:09] We're going to go back and play that clip again. [00:11:13] They are correct that the president did get briefed on a range of options today. [00:11:18] Sam Faddis is going to join us in a second. [00:11:20] Let's go to the White House. [00:11:21] Neil McCabe, you were there. [00:11:23] Put us in the room. [00:11:24] It seemed like it was even hotter than yesterday, sir. [00:11:29] Yeah, really the same themes that we talked about at the House Armed Services Committee. [00:11:35] Rick Scott asked Hegseth, Sir, what are you most proud of? [00:11:39] Senator Sullivan from Alaska talked about the battle for the American Arctic. [00:11:44] Senator Sheehy was saying, Hey, what about more funding for Special Operations Command? [00:11:48] Meanwhile, Jackie Rosen is saying, You're an anti Semite. [00:11:52] Elizabeth Warren said, You're guilty of insider trading. [00:11:55] Reid said, You're a Christian nationalist. [00:11:58] Slotkin said, You're going to send troops to voting stations because you and your president want a dictatorship. [00:12:05] And it was much more personal, I thought, than yesterday. [00:12:10] And these guys came loaded for bear. [00:12:13] It was really something to behold. [00:12:15] Again, like we said yesterday, Hank Seth just took it, right? [00:12:19] And he fought back. [00:12:22] He was very, I thought he was very effective in his rebukes. [00:12:27] I was a little disappointed that Roger Wicker, the chairman of the committee, he's supposed to be there to sort of like call, I don't know, I say civility, but I have seen chairmen before sort of step in. [00:12:41] You'll see Grassley do it a lot. [00:12:42] Obviously. [00:12:44] You've got to see, hang on, hang on. [00:12:46] You're 100% correct. [00:12:48] And you're being a real gentleman there. [00:12:50] The purpose of the majority, particularly when they have the executive branch, is that the chairman is supposed to step in and provide air cover. [00:12:56] So you're not supposed to let his people be personally attacked, stay on the topic. [00:13:02] These attacks were personal and they were so far off topic. [00:13:07] They were trying to smear Pete Hegseth. [00:13:10] And Jack Reed, I had to play it twice. [00:13:12] We played it again this morning, or we actually played it at the beginning when he was making those comments to go after the National Association of Religious Broadcasters because Pete said, There should be more, you know, we should get in view troops and people of faith and make sure they have access to Christianity. [00:13:32] There's nothing wrong with that. [00:13:34] And the National Association of Religious Broadcasts is one of the best groups out there. [00:13:39] This is just, they attack, they attack, they attack, and never get to the substance. [00:13:44] It actually had very little substance on the Democratic side. [00:13:48] The Republicans asked some pretty good questions, but once again, Wicker did not stand in and did not step in and at least shield. [00:13:56] The executive branch and the administration from unwarranted personal attacks. [00:14:01] And that's what this is, that's 100% what it is. [00:14:03] Okay, we're going to get Sam Faddis in this. [00:14:05] We're going to talk about the range of alternatives. [00:14:07] Also, the president was open to the press this afternoon. [00:14:10] We're going to play that, break that all down. [00:14:12] Caroline Wren is here with an update on the all important feckless, lazy, stupid, gutless Republican rhino establishment. [00:14:24] They've known this is coming for months and months and months. [00:14:27] It should have come decades ago. [00:14:29] They're not ready for it. [00:14:30] They don't want to do it. [00:14:32] We've got 13 seats in the South that are available. [00:14:35] Easy pickings. [00:14:37] 13 seats. [00:14:39] The Republican establishment already let Ford go in Virginia. [00:14:42] They're prepared to let, I don't know, a half a dozen or more go in the South. [00:14:47] We'll get to all of that. [00:14:47] Caroline Wren's going to join us. [00:14:49] Short commercial break. [00:14:50] Back in the room in a moment. [00:15:01] Here's your host, Stephen K. Bath. [00:15:07] Sam Faddis, first off, what did you think of the Armed Services hearing today, Senate Armed Services Committee going after Pete Hegseth? [00:15:18] I thought, even for this Congress and these Democrats, an absolutely epic display of jackassery. [00:15:28] I mean, there are. [00:15:31] We're in the middle of a war, and there are. [00:15:33] Plenty of actual important things to talk about. [00:15:38] And it is, I think you used the word circus. [00:15:41] That's exactly it. [00:15:43] Points that are non points, stretching things into nothing. [00:15:49] I don't know. [00:15:49] We're in the middle of combat, but it is now something to be ashamed of to believe in God and to promote faith and just horrifying. [00:16:01] And I'm sure we're going to see lots more of it. [00:16:05] And this is the party that wants to take a charge in November. [00:16:10] Remember, this is the best advertisement against them, it's just to continue to show them as they are. [00:16:18] Because they only have so much time to ask questions. [00:16:20] Can I play Jackie Rosen? [00:16:23] Can we play that again? [00:16:24] It was so over the top. [00:16:25] Denver, let's go ahead and play Jackie Rosen and the Pharisee. [00:16:28] Morally corrupt. [00:16:31] You doubled down again and said it. [00:16:34] Words matter. [00:16:36] Words matter. [00:16:36] What you choose to say, how we choose to say it. [00:16:40] How do you justify using this language as Secretary of Defense? [00:16:43] Words matter. [00:16:44] It's a historically hurtful term. [00:16:47] Why do you continue to use it? [00:16:49] And what actions are you taking to prevent rhetoric like this from permeating throughout the department that is going to target specific groups or individuals of people based on their religion? [00:17:03] Senator, I feel like it's a pretty accurate term for folks who don't see the plank in their own eye and always want to see what's wrong with an. [00:17:09] Operation as opposed to the historic success of preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. [00:17:14] So I stand by it. [00:17:15] You stand by calling people Pharisees. [00:17:18] Sir, I cannot, I cannot stand for that. [00:17:23] That is wrong. [00:17:24] It is not respectful to people. [00:17:26] And I expect anyone who is in leadership in our country to be respectful and use respectful terms and not be an anti Semite. [00:17:41] Wow, it's Pharisee. [00:17:44] I must have missed that one. [00:17:46] Sam, help me out here. [00:17:48] Is Pharisee a hate term, sir? [00:17:52] I guess she's looking out for the sensibilities of a certain sect of Jewish priests. [00:17:58] I don't know what exactly. [00:18:02] It's just so ludicrous that at points when I was watching that, I thought, you've got to be putting me on. [00:18:09] This has to be a shtick. [00:18:11] You have to be pretending you are making yourself look so ludicrous. === Understanding War Powers Act (10:32) === [00:18:17] That's what, when I was watching, I had to look it up. [00:18:19] And Pharisees, Sadducees said they had the Sanhedrin. [00:18:22] I didn't know it was a hateful term. [00:18:26] Let's hold that for a second, and we're going to get to the president. [00:18:29] But Sam, you heard also the senator sitting there just accusing, or it was the former Secretary of Defense, Panetta, who was saying, you have to get to the negotiating table. [00:18:42] You have to have diplomacy. [00:18:44] You have to have negotiation. [00:18:46] Well, if the other side is not prepared to negotiate, it's a little bit like Vietnam there for a while. [00:18:51] You're going to have to give them a come along and get them focused. [00:18:55] No one wants to go back to the kinetic side of this, but right now they're not prepared to negotiate. [00:19:00] They're not prepared to clean up the situation around their nuclear weapons or make a commitment. [00:19:05] They're not the pirates down in Hormuz, got a pretty good gig going. [00:19:08] They're getting a main or two for the first time. [00:19:12] Hey, and they're not even having to take it in crypto or in Chinese yuan anymore. [00:19:16] It's good old US dollars, and people are lined up to pay it. [00:19:19] So President Trump is going to have a range of alternatives. [00:19:23] Some of those alternatives are going to be kinetic, and none of us, particularly guys like you that spent a big part of your life there and myself that was over there, none of us are enthusiastic about. [00:19:35] Being over there and having the troops over there, but we are where we are, Brother Faddis. [00:19:41] Yeah, look, as I've been saying for some time, there's really nothing to talk about with these guys right now because they're not prepared to discuss the things that we need them to discuss. [00:19:51] They don't think they're losing, they think time is on their side. [00:19:56] We are turning the screws now on them by blockading and taking other measures. [00:20:01] As you know, we're going to, my firm belief, you're going to have to turn those screws a lot more. [00:20:08] Before you get to the table, sitting down right now with them is not just a waste of time. [00:20:13] It's a sign of weakness. [00:20:15] It's a sign that we want it more than they do. [00:20:18] Yes, exactly. [00:20:20] They're not prepared to listen. [00:20:21] If you follow Panetta's recommendation, nothing's going to happen. [00:20:29] And anything that does happen is going to be pro and in favorable to them because they're not listening right now. [00:20:34] It's a huge sign of weakness. [00:20:36] That's what they're waiting for. [00:20:37] Somebody take Panetta's. [00:20:38] So, this is what you got. [00:20:39] The Democrats have nothing but Loserville as far as alternatives go. [00:20:46] Neil McCabe, your thoughts on Admiral Cooper gave the range of alternatives today to the president. [00:20:52] I noticed that it was leaked that it was definitely Cooper. [00:20:55] The president seems to, he's really risen ever since for the whole operation. [00:21:01] But CENCOM, I think the way the Navy under CENCOM as a combatant commander has pulled off this blockade. [00:21:08] Really, as the president, pretty excited. [00:21:11] Your thoughts on the range of alternatives, Neil McCabe. [00:21:16] Yes, Steve, I think that you have the oil facilities at Kirk Island. [00:21:20] You have all the smaller islands around the Strait of Hermos, which would be where the mosquito boats and the drones are coming from. [00:21:28] And so those are your two sort of military targets, unless you go after Tehran itself. [00:21:33] I did notice that USS Boxer was hanging out in Guam in the Sulu Sea, but. [00:21:40] Today on Divids, they posted that Boxer is now underway again. [00:21:45] And so I'm just waiting to see when Boxer chops into the fifth fleet because Boxer has the amphibious, those hovercraft, landing crafts, and that's really its stock and trade. [00:21:56] Whereas Tripoli has the Marine F 35s, it has the attack helicopters, and they're the ones who are actually going after the boats and boarding the boats. [00:22:06] But I would say that the Boxer group is more a ground offensive or amphibious landing group. [00:22:11] And so we'll see how that happens. [00:22:13] It's interesting. [00:22:14] After all of this talk of a ceasefire and sort of letting the block, we were told a few days ago, Hey, just prepare for this blockade to go for a while. [00:22:23] Also, we're coming up on the deadline of the War Powers Act. [00:22:26] Not that anybody, you know, in the White House takes that seriously, but they do sort of watch it. [00:22:30] And we're coming up on day 60. [00:22:32] The president can make a statement to Congress to give himself another 30 days. [00:22:37] But there's also talk. [00:22:38] Administration officials have been quoted. [00:22:41] There are other people on Capitol Hill who say that the ceasefire itself stops the clock. [00:22:48] For the 60 days for the War Powers Act. [00:22:51] So they actually are thinking that they have more time. [00:22:54] And so we'll just see how it plays out, Steve. [00:22:58] Go back to that for a second, Neil, and just let people know the War Powers Act. [00:23:03] By the way, I'm not sure. [00:23:07] I will say this I don't think 100% that President Trump and people around, certain people around President Trump, think the War Powers Act is in effect in this. [00:23:20] I happen to believe the War Powers Act is unconstitutional. [00:23:24] It's never been challenged, right? [00:23:27] But I think in this case, you might see a challenge to it. [00:23:31] But in the War Powers Act, if you did believe in the War Powers Act as a framework, what happens in 60 days, you need to do what? [00:23:40] In 60 days, you either pop smoke and bring the boys home, or you say, hey, this thing is a little hot right now. [00:23:47] I'm going to need 30 more days. [00:23:49] So, in effect, everyone talks about 60 days. [00:23:52] In practical matter, the War Powers Act is 90 days. [00:23:56] But then there's also this theory, a legal theory, that a ceasefire sort of pauses that clock. [00:24:01] And I don't mean to say that Trump accepts. [00:24:04] That the War Powers Act is constitutional. [00:24:06] No president has done it. [00:24:08] And in fact, it was passed over Nixon's veto. [00:24:10] However, people in the administration, including Caroline Levitt, have meant, they're aware of the clock. [00:24:17] That's all I wanted to say, Steve, about that. [00:24:19] Yeah, no, no. [00:24:20] I think it was great. [00:24:21] I think it's great that you did that. [00:24:23] Sam, Neil McKay brings a good point. [00:24:26] The boxer looks like it's underway. [00:24:29] If the president wants to have a wider range of military and paramilitary alternatives that include something more than strategic bombing, That we tried the first time. [00:24:42] He would make sure he waited and got all those elements in place, sir? [00:24:49] Yeah, 100%. [00:24:50] But I'm presuming, based on what we see deployed, that anything that involves guys on the ground inside Iran will be very limited and very short duration. [00:25:05] I mean, in the scheme of things, on a strategic level, we still have nowhere near. [00:25:14] The actual troops in the region to do anything serious on the ground inside Iran. [00:25:20] And I have no idea what that is. [00:25:22] I was thinking along the lines of around the rim. [00:25:25] I'm not advocating this, but I'm saying if you had to have some elements available for the rim around Hormuz and maybe some oil facilities to do just to give yourself a range of alternatives, like it looked like Gabriel Cooper talked today. [00:25:38] Yeah, 100%. [00:25:39] And look, we've already seen with the air crew down a few weeks ago, whenever that was. [00:25:45] I mean, we had to deploy a significant number of guys. [00:25:49] In order to get those folks out. [00:25:51] So you need those folks in theater for a whole bunch of contingencies. [00:25:57] Sam, why don't you hang on? [00:25:58] Neil, if you could hang on at the White House, we're going to play a couple of clips when we get back. [00:26:03] President Trump gave a relatively freewheeling press avail from the Oval Office today, as he is wont to do. [00:26:09] Some interesting things there. [00:26:10] We're going to get into that. [00:26:11] Caroline Wren's also going to come. [00:26:13] Firestorm in Dixie. [00:26:17] Is that appropriate to use that term? [00:26:19] When talking about what happened to Supreme Court? [00:26:21] Sure, it is. [00:26:22] Come on, man. [00:26:23] We're all Americans, including the South. [00:26:28] Southern Rhino Republicans not wanting to step up to the plate. [00:26:34] Pretty obvious. [00:26:36] BirchGold.com. [00:26:37] Take your phone at text Bannon, B A N N O N, at 989898. [00:26:41] Get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. [00:26:46] This guide is free, there is no obligation. [00:26:49] You get to talk to Philip Patrick and his team about what is driving the value of gold today and in the future. [00:26:58] Short commercial break. [00:27:01] If we didn't have that B2 bomber, if we didn't go in and do what we did, we obliterated that nuclear capacity of theirs. [00:27:08] And so they never, they didn't get the nuclear bomb. [00:27:12] If we didn't do that attack, it should have been done long before I came along by other presidents or by another country or something. [00:27:19] But it should have been done long before I came along. [00:27:23] But they are in very bad shape, and they've got nothing going, including leadership. [00:27:29] I mean, their leaders are gone. [00:27:32] Now they have a whole new, their first string leaders are gone, their second string leaders are gone. [00:27:36] Now we're dealing with their third string. [00:27:38] Really great, yeah. [00:27:39] And that's going to carry forward. [00:27:41] Look, the country's doing really well, and that's despite a military operation. [00:27:46] I don't call it a war, because you'd rather have a military operation. [00:27:51] We're really, I mean, Iran is dying to make a deal. [00:27:56] I can only tell you that. [00:27:57] I don't want to get into the, but they cannot be nuclear other than that. [00:28:02] But they are, their Navy's gone, their Air Force is gone, every ounce of any form of equipment practically is gone. [00:28:11] You know, their drone factories are about 82% down, and their missile factories are almost 90% down. [00:28:21] And many of their missiles have been knocked out between. [00:28:24] They used some, but we knocked out more than they used. [00:28:28] And it's pretty amazing what's happened. [00:28:29] They want to make a deal. [00:28:30] But despite the fact that we are in what some people would call a war, we just hit a new high today on the stock market. [00:28:37] We have SP is through the roof. [00:28:40] They're all, I mean, they're through the roof. [00:28:44] John Thune's a good man. [00:28:45] I said to him, John, just go take the vote. [00:28:47] Let's expose who the people are. === Saving America from Filibuster (15:33) === [00:28:50] But, you know, we got rid of the filibuster. [00:28:52] We could vote on the Save America Act, voter ID. [00:28:56] You know, you act so good. [00:28:58] I love this guy. [00:28:58] He's a great guy. [00:28:59] Even though I don't love his girlfriend too much, I won't tell you who the girlfriend is. [00:29:05] But I like him, and I've always liked him. [00:29:08] It's great that he hasn't changed. [00:29:10] But, Brian, I think here's the problem. [00:29:14] It's not even imaginable to me why. [00:29:17] And people are angry about it. [00:29:19] I'm talking about Republicans who are angry about it. [00:29:22] The filibuster should be terminated. [00:29:25] If the Democrats ever get a shot, which probably, based on history, sometime they will, they will use it in the first minute of the first hour, and they will execute all of the bad things. [00:29:37] 21 justices. [00:29:37] You know, they really like 21. [00:29:39] I heard 13, but they really want 21 Supreme Court justices. [00:29:43] And they really want to have D.C. and Puerto Rico become states. [00:29:47] That would mean automatic four senators go into the Democrat column. [00:29:53] And there's not even a chance that they don't do it and do it immediately. [00:29:57] Now, with that knowledge, because you could argue whether it's good or bad, but I don't think it's that much of an argument, frankly. [00:30:02] But you could argue, with that knowledge that they're going to do it immediately, why wouldn't you do it as a Republican? [00:30:10] Unless you have bad motives, almost. [00:30:12] But if we did it, we could pass one bill after the other. [00:30:17] We could pass laws and acts and things that we never even dreamt of passing. [00:30:23] And you know what else? [00:30:24] We wouldn't lose for 50 years. [00:30:26] You know, if we passed, if we terminated the filibuster, We would have a 50 year run. [00:30:33] You'd stop cheating. [00:30:35] I mean, look, they're professional cheats and they're great at it. [00:30:39] That's what they're best at because you can't get elected with their policy. [00:30:43] You can't get elected with men and women's sports, with transgender mutilization of our children, with open borders for jails to be dropped into our country, and mental institutions, and drug dealers and murderers. [00:30:58] Think of it 11,888 murderers come into our country, nobody even talks to them about it. [00:31:03] We got a lot of them out because of, you know what? [00:31:06] Because of ICE, which they don't want to fund. [00:31:09] They're defunding our police. [00:31:11] When they defund ICE and with Border Patrol and Secret Service, they're defunding our police. [00:31:17] Police. [00:31:17] The same thing as they're doing with an officer on the street corner. [00:31:21] So, why the Republicans' Senate doesn't just sit in there and just do it and take a negative vote and do it again and again like the Democrats do? [00:31:33] Because we want to get the nuclear test. [00:31:35] It's way down there. [00:31:36] You need excavators and everything to get it. [00:31:38] But we want to get it. [00:31:39] We'll take it one way or the other. [00:31:41] We'll either get it or we'll take it. [00:31:43] They'll either give it to us or we'll take it. [00:31:45] But I think it's very disrespectful to our incredible military when they say, Maybe they missed the target. [00:31:53] Every single bomb has been. [00:31:57] John Thune, about the Senate. [00:32:00] Neil McCabe, the brutal reality, the president keeps talking about this. [00:32:04] We've got to do the talking. [00:32:05] We're so far away from the Senate doing that. [00:32:07] And I wish somebody on the president's staff would inform him of that. [00:32:11] We're not even close to that. [00:32:13] John Thune and the McConnell backed operation is treating President Trump like he's a lame duck. [00:32:20] So I think we've got to get some information here. [00:32:22] We don't have 51 votes in passing anything, we don't have 60. [00:32:26] But we should have 27, Mr. President, and that will replace John Thune. [00:32:30] I think that is what you need to do. [00:32:32] Just like you're looking at a range of alternatives to get the attention of the mullahs and whatever Ayatollahs left, whatever mullahs are left in the Persian Revolutionary Guard, whatever is left of this, we're going to get a come along, a U.S. Navy or Air Force come along to get their attention. [00:32:53] You're going to have to get the attention of the Senate. [00:32:56] They're no different than the mullahs. [00:32:59] They're set in their ways and they are fighting you on every aspect. [00:33:03] The Save America Act, please, you know, people came the other day. [00:33:07] Oh, we got to get Save America. [00:33:08] We are the network, the channel that covered the Save America first round until 11 or 12 at night. [00:33:15] Neil, you were doing the coverage. [00:33:18] You had Mike Lee, you had Schmidt of Missouri, you had a couple of three others. [00:33:25] That was it. [00:33:25] It was purely performative. [00:33:27] I'm not blaming them. [00:33:27] They tried. [00:33:28] There was no interest at Doon. [00:33:30] He's got zero interest. [00:33:32] There is zero interest up there going to a talking filibuster. [00:33:36] And so we can sit here and continue to complain about it, or we can take some action. [00:33:41] The action that would probably work is removing Thune as leader because you've got 27 votes. [00:33:47] You can craft that together. [00:33:49] Neil McCabe, particularly today, when Wicker just sat there and let Pete Hegseth get eaten alive by these Democrats, actually was not. [00:33:58] Pete gave as good as he got. [00:34:00] But there was no air cover. [00:34:02] This is what lack of respect. [00:34:04] They have for the Trump administration and the Trump team fighting this war. [00:34:09] Wicker never came in and provided any cover for Pete Hegseth. [00:34:13] He let him sit there and take it from these Democrats for hours because you know why? [00:34:19] That's what McConnell and Thune want. [00:34:22] Neil McCabe, your thoughts, sir. [00:34:26] Yeah, you're talking about the numbers. [00:34:27] You eliminate the filibuster with 51 votes, it's a quick change of the Senate rules. [00:34:32] They've made 10 changes to the filibuster. [00:34:35] Used to be 66 votes. [00:34:37] I mean, it's ridiculous to say that there's something sacred about the filibuster. [00:34:41] It's not in the Constitution at all. [00:34:44] 51 votes and it's gone. [00:34:46] And the 27 votes is important because the majority leader has tremendous power. [00:34:52] He runs the Senate. [00:34:53] In a lot of ways, he's more powerful than the Speaker, but it's a party position. [00:34:58] It's not a constitutional position. [00:34:59] That's why he's not in the chain of succession. [00:35:02] It's the Republican Senate conference votes for their party leader, and that's Thune. [00:35:08] And, you know, he almost didn't win. [00:35:10] He was not unanimous. [00:35:11] I'm not sure how many votes Rick Scott got, but it It was very much contested because it was Cornyn, Scott, and Thune. [00:35:20] So it's not like this was by acclamation. [00:35:22] Thune is hanging on by the skin of his teeth. [00:35:24] And obviously, if they lose the Senate, he's gone. [00:35:27] There's just no way they can keep him, Steve. [00:35:30] Well, if you note to all the fundraisers and all the donors, if you continue on, no grassroots are going to go out and knock on doors statewide. [00:35:40] You're going to lose the Senate because people detest the Senate right now, they don't see the power of having it. [00:35:47] So, if you keep down this path, you're going to lose it. [00:35:49] So, you got a choice. [00:35:50] Either get rid of Thune now and try to regroup, or just go down the road to perdition, which you're heading down. [00:35:57] Sam Faddis, you wear two hats, sir, former CIA and know Iran and the Persians better than anybody. [00:36:03] You're also one of the grassroots leaders of Pennsylvania. [00:36:07] How did that set with you, sir, what the president had to say? [00:36:12] Well, picking up where you guys just left off, I mean, the way I look at it is we got a Democratic Party in this country that is increasingly. [00:36:21] A Marxist entity. [00:36:23] Then we have an America First MAGA party, which is where all the energy and all the power on the GOP side is. [00:36:33] And then, separate and distinct from MAGA, America First, whatever you want to call it, we've got a GOP establishment that doesn't represent the vast majority of the people in the Republican Party, certainly doesn't represent MAGA, doesn't speak for the folks. [00:36:52] That got Donald Trump into the White House. [00:36:55] So people are sitting here waiting for these Republican senators to do the right thing. [00:37:03] And the unfortunate truth is that a whole bunch of them are not on our side. [00:37:09] It's not just a difference of opinion on issues, they're on another team. [00:37:14] And what they really want is to wait this out for Trump to go away and hope that Maggie dies. [00:37:20] That's what they're looking for. [00:37:22] Amen. [00:37:23] Amen. [00:37:24] So, what do we do? [00:37:25] I mean, the president, someone's got to tell the president they're not, they're treating you like a lame duck. [00:37:30] There's no, this talking, discussions of the talking filibuster are not relevant right now. [00:37:34] We're so far away from that. [00:37:37] The Save America Act did not get any traction. [00:37:40] I had well meaning people this week saying, hey, you got to get in the Save America. [00:37:43] I go, whoa, what are you talking about? [00:37:45] They dismissed that and then went on a two week Easter break. [00:37:48] We've got to regroup here. [00:37:50] And you got to regroup around, you have to make Thune the issue. [00:37:54] Casthoon is the issue. [00:37:56] He's standing between the president and action, and the loss of the Senate is going to be on the senators themselves, Sam Faddis, because they refuse to act, sir. [00:38:10] Yeah, 100%. [00:38:11] And let's be blunt. [00:38:13] A lot of these establishment guys would rather lose to the Democrats than allow MAGA to gain power. [00:38:19] I mean, we see that at the state level in Pennsylvania all the time. [00:38:22] They'd rather a Democratic legislator got into office. [00:38:26] Than actually have an America First guy take that position. [00:38:30] So, what do we have to do? [00:38:31] I mean, we have to say that out loud and throw down on that and stop pretending otherwise. [00:38:38] You know, you want to, if you want to be a Republican senator and you want to stand up to the people that put Donald Trump in office and you want to do that in the light of day and say that out loud, okay, then let's get to it. [00:38:52] But we're going to take away your capacity to pretend otherwise. [00:38:59] This is where we are. [00:39:00] We are the people. [00:39:01] We are the majority. [00:39:03] We're the people that put this guy in the White House and we're calling you out. [00:39:07] Now, again, you want to throw down. [00:39:10] Let's do that. [00:39:10] They, of course, don't have the courage for that. [00:39:13] What they want to do is continue to be able to hide in the shadows, pretend otherwise. [00:39:21] Sam, where do people go for Anne Magazine and for your social media, sir? [00:39:27] Anne Magazine at Substack, A N D Magazine.Substack.com. [00:39:31] And I'm on X and every place else as Real Sam Faddis. [00:39:37] Sam, thank you so much for doing this. [00:39:39] Appreciate you. [00:39:41] We're going to see in a moment about how real the Republican establishment is. [00:39:45] You would think that they would be ready to go in the South immediately to jump on the 13, what is it, possibly 19 seats, 16 seats? [00:39:55] No, you would not be seeing that. [00:39:57] That's why Caroline Wren has been on fire. [00:40:00] Neil McCabe, where do people go to keep up with you, sir? [00:40:06] Steve, they can find me on all the socials at Reporter McCabe. [00:40:10] Thanks for having me on. [00:40:12] Thank you, brother. [00:40:12] Appreciate you. [00:40:15] Have you noticed how complicated Medicare is? [00:40:18] Have you noticed when you talk to these consultants, oh, he gets a lot of gobbledygook. [00:40:22] And oftentimes you hear about friends, maybe even yourself or relatives that sign up for programs that are totally inappropriate. [00:40:31] Well, there's a company out there, a data company, that is set up to solve that called Chapter 845 War Room. [00:40:39] This is free, no obligation. [00:40:41] You get a call and they will walk you through all the different perturbations. [00:40:46] Of Medicare plans for you. [00:40:49] For you. [00:40:51] 845 War Room. [00:40:52] Special number. [00:40:53] Set a break for the posse. [00:40:54] Call today. [00:40:56] Check it out. [00:40:58] War Room. [00:41:00] Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. [00:41:07] Okay, welcome back. [00:41:10] Caroline Wren. [00:41:13] I think we lit a fuse here. [00:41:15] People responding. [00:41:16] My phone's been blown up all day. [00:41:18] Folks want to know what they can do to effectuate the unconstitutional congressional districts that are out there. [00:41:28] This is why I don't understand why the GOP establishment, that all yammers, all they do is yammer about the Constitution. [00:41:35] They're on Fox, they're loving the Constitution, they stand up for the Constitution, they're going to do this. [00:41:39] Well, the Supreme Court of these United States has come out and said this DEI gerrymandering is unconstitutional. [00:41:47] It's got to stop. [00:41:49] And there's methods to stop it, but the establishment is like, oh, well, I think we can get to this for 28. [00:41:55] Just give me the temperature of what's going on. [00:41:57] Because you got people that are aggressive, like Ron DeSantis. [00:42:01] And then you got people that, like even in Louisiana, they don't want it. [00:42:04] It should be 6 0 maximalist. [00:42:07] This is what Hakeem Jeffries is going to do. [00:42:09] Why are we being such wimps, ma'am? [00:42:12] Well, tradition mostly. [00:42:14] But I will say my phone has been blowing up too. [00:42:17] People are worked up. [00:42:18] They are not going to. [00:42:20] To accept that you just sit on the sidelines and don't address this redistricting. [00:42:24] And I know that they are blowing up the phones of these different states. [00:42:28] And it's because the Supreme Court ruling that we've all been waiting for, we all knew what's coming, but it finally rights the wrong of race based gerrymandering. [00:42:36] And so these states should not wait until 2028. [00:42:39] Some are saying, oh, well, you know, we have to wait till 2030 per federal court. [00:42:44] This is what Governor Ivey said. [00:42:46] No, we're not waiting. [00:42:47] The Supreme Court came out, so this is unconstitutional. [00:42:50] And so the people should not have to vote in unconstitutional districts, period, full stop. [00:42:55] And any governor telling you otherwise is wrong, and we have to challenge them. [00:43:00] And right now, you know, President Trump is taking this seriously. [00:43:02] The White House is taking it seriously. [00:43:04] I know President Trump's been on the phone all day calling governors about this. [00:43:08] He called Governor Bill Lee and was able to get him to move on this. [00:43:12] And so we're waiting to see exactly what that means. [00:43:14] But President Trump said he had a very positive conversation. [00:43:17] And look, President Trump's the best deal maker in history. [00:43:19] So far be it for me to think that him and Governor Lee just chatted up about the weather and didn't come to a resolution about doing redistricting. [00:43:27] So, you know, President Trump is making calls on this. [00:43:30] There's no reason why we at home shouldn't be as well. [00:43:34] But hang on, this is what it's taking. [00:43:35] Because Bill Lee, for over a day, was saying nothing. [00:43:40] It was. [00:43:41] Blackburn running for governor that said she would do it. [00:43:45] Well, that's great, but that's not going to happen until the next cycle. [00:43:47] Bill Lee was quiet until the president lit him up, correct? [00:43:52] Yeah, he was posting pictures the last 24 hours touring some state park. [00:43:55] And I was like, with all due respect, governor, we just had a massive landmark Supreme Court ruling that directly affects your state. [00:44:01] So if you could, you know, take a little time away from the state park tours and address this, that would be great. [00:44:07] You know, but luckily, that's why, I mean, President Trump sitting there and calling these folks is what it takes, which is It is very annoying that the president in the United States has to call them to see action, but that's just where we are. [00:44:20] I tell you what, let me get Mike Lindell in here. === The 23 Seat Challenge (03:37) === [00:44:23] I want to get you back. [00:44:24] You'll be at the top of six. [00:44:25] I want to go through state by state. [00:44:26] In fact, can we put up, I want that chart. [00:44:29] You're saying there's actually 23 seats, including the ones that we've already taken down in places like Florida and in Texas. [00:44:39] But totally in this cycle, the pickup total should be 23 seats, ma'am? [00:44:46] Yes, it is. [00:44:47] And that's just what is left. [00:44:48] It could be more than that if states like Indiana hadn't botched this. [00:44:53] And so there are several more that you could pick up because of this VRA ruling in 2028. [00:44:58] A couple of them have like Dem governors who would veto it, but it could be challenged in court. [00:45:02] Now, a court challenge is not going to give a remedy ahead of the 2026 election. [00:45:09] And so I think, you know, total, it could be as many as 28, 29 seats. [00:45:14] We'll see. [00:45:14] But right now, there are 23 seats that I see on the map that we could. [00:45:18] Have gotten or could go get tomorrow and is an absolute game changer. [00:45:23] This is a game changer. [00:45:24] This changes everything, folks. [00:45:26] This is why when we went to Texas and Virginia, we're saying, hey, look, don't black pill. [00:45:32] The cavalry's on its way. [00:45:34] You see it right here, but the establishment has to get off their butts and get something done. [00:45:38] Stick right there, Caroline. [00:45:39] Remember, we're going to go through state by state and see what action we can take. [00:45:43] Mike Lindell, you lost your voice because you're doing so many, I think every day you're doing nonstop. [00:45:50] Things for your governor's race. [00:45:51] Our audience loves that, but they also love your deals. [00:45:54] What do you got for us? [00:45:56] My voice is coming back, everybody. [00:45:58] I did do a governor event last night. [00:46:01] Hundreds showed up, and I stayed till midnight, five hours answering all their questions. [00:46:06] But I wanted to get on here because there's only 24 hours left of the semi sale that we have. [00:46:13] The last semi is going to be gone $29.98. [00:46:16] My slippers. [00:46:20] 80% off, along with it. [00:46:22] There's about 40 other products still left that we're going to sell out to you using the promo code War Room. [00:46:29] You guys, once they're gone, they're gone. [00:46:32] So this is it. [00:46:32] You got 24 hours with free shipping on your entire order. [00:46:37] Let's get rid of, let's get them all gone, everybody. [00:46:39] They were earmarked for the box stores. [00:46:41] Their loss is your gain. [00:46:43] We have the MyPillow, MyPillow's on for $14.98, too. 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[00:47:49] Caroline Wren, we're going to go through the. [00:47:51] Thank you, brother. [00:47:51] We're going to go through these. [00:47:53] We'll see you tomorrow morning. [00:47:55] Six o'clock hours upon us. [00:47:57] Caroline Wren is going to stick around. [00:47:59] We're going to go through the states. === Supreme Court Rulings Arrive (00:45) === [00:48:01] 23 seats. [00:48:03] Why do you think Mark Elias, these guys are in total meltdown? [00:48:07] This was a monumental ruling. [00:48:10] By the Supreme Court of the United States. [00:48:11] Everybody talks about, well, you got to work, I get these Supreme Court justices. [00:48:14] Look, they delivered 6 3. [00:48:17] 6 3 in an Alito opinion. [00:48:19] What's better than that? [00:48:20] Come on. [00:48:22] We need to show them some respect. [00:48:25] And it shouldn't have to take a phone call from President Trump to a guy like Lee in Tennessee, another squish, to get the ball rolling. [00:48:34] But that's what's taking. [00:48:35] Like, President Trump doesn't have enough on his plate. [00:48:37] He's trying to run a freaking war. [00:48:41] Unbelievable. [00:48:42] Un, un, unbelievable. [00:48:44] Okay, stick around. [00:48:45] Next hour of War Room is upon us.