Bannon's War Room - Episode 5317: Breaking The Deepstate And Lawfare Against MAGA
Aired: 2026-04-22
Duration: 48:49


=== Congratulating Heart and Determination (05:50) ===

[00:00:00]  Make sure I don't want to have anybody leave unhappy.
[00:00:03]  Please sit down.
[00:00:05]  There's no place like this, right?
[00:00:07]  The White House.
[00:00:07]  Coach, what do you think?
[00:00:09]  Pretty good, right?
[00:00:10]  I meet all these golfers over here.
[00:00:11]  I said, what are your handicaps?
[00:00:13]  Plus four.
[00:00:13]  I said, plus four, plus five even.
[00:00:16]  It says, that's good stuff.
[00:00:18]  He actually said higher than that.
[00:00:20]  I said, you got to be kidding me, right?
[00:00:21]  That's great.
[00:00:22]  Congratulations.
[00:00:23]  Great team.
[00:00:24]  I heard about the team.
[00:00:25]  And I heard about all the teams this afternoon who were joined by not one, not two.
[00:00:31]  But seven collegiate championship winning teams from all across the country, champions, every one of them.
[00:00:38]  And these are student athletes that have demonstrated remarkable talent and discipline.
[00:00:44]  And we're born a little bit lucky with talent because I'm not sure, coach, I'm not sure.
[00:00:48]  I look at all these great coaches that have these records 40 and 1, 37 and 2, pretty good records.
[00:00:54]  But we're talking, and I guess you probably have to have a little something, something very special, because what you are and what you do is very special to the winners.
[00:01:04]  Here today, welcome to the White House, a very, very incredible place.
[00:01:08]  I pinch myself every time I walk through the White House.
[00:01:11]  I say this place is really something, and it's a great honor to have you because you're very amazing people.
[00:01:18]  Among those joining us this afternoon are the 2025 Division I men's golf champions.
[00:01:25]  Why don't you stand up when I introduce you for a second?
[00:01:28]  You got all the fake news back there, so you know you'd have a.
[00:01:31]  They'll treat you better than they treat me.
[00:01:35]  They're going to treat you better than they treat me.
[00:01:38]  And that's Oklahoma State Cowboys.
[00:01:41]  And I just said that I won Oklahoma 77 out of 77 counties.
[00:01:46]  Second was Ronald Reagan, so I'm very proud of that.
[00:01:49]  Somehow they elect me in Oklahoma.
[00:01:50]  I don't know what that is.
[00:01:51]  Sit down, coach.
[00:01:52]  Great job.
[00:01:54]  The incredible team showcased consistency, grit, and precision all season long, led by head coach Alan Bratton.
[00:02:02]  Alan, unbelievable.
[00:02:04]  The Cowboys dominated throughout the spring, capturing multiple victories before securing their 12th national title.
[00:02:10]  Amazing.
[00:02:11]  They have made Oklahoma State very proud, and it's a great school and it's a great, great sports school, too, with some unbelievable champions and teams, and you're right at the top.
[00:02:21]  Congratulations.
[00:02:21]  It's great.
[00:02:22]  I'll have to play golf with you guys some.
[00:02:24]  I'm going to try giving you a match.
[00:02:26]  I think it's going to be tough.
[00:02:28]  This is a match I'm not looking forward to.
[00:02:30]  And anytime you're around, you let us know, okay?
[00:02:33]  We'll let you go over to the place I told you about, a special place on the Potomac River, okay?
[00:02:38]  Joining us as well are the 2025 NCAA Women's Volleyball Champions, the Texas.
[00:02:45]  A&M Aggies.
[00:02:47]  Thank you.
[00:02:48]  Good.
[00:02:48]  Stand up.
[00:02:52]  I watch, when I watch television, I watch the level of talent.
[00:02:56]  It's actually incredible, and you're the best of the best, so that's an amazing thing.
[00:03:00]  And from the opening serve to the final point of the national championship, the Aggies played with heart and determination.
[00:03:08]  Everybody here played with heart and determination, really.
[00:03:11]  They dominated the tournament, sweeping top seeded Kentucky to claim, why were they top seeded?
[00:03:16]  What's going on?
[00:03:17]  What's going on?
[00:03:18]  I don't like that.
[00:03:20]  To claim the program's first ever national title.
[00:03:24]  Kendall Stowers was an offensive powerhouse.
[00:03:27]  Wiz Kendall, are you a powerhouse?
[00:03:32]  Yes, I can tell you you are indeed.
[00:03:35]  A real powerhouse and champion.
[00:03:37]  And senior opposite hitter, Logan Lednicki, delivered 11 kills against Kentucky.
[00:03:45]  Wiz Logan, congratulations.
[00:03:48]  So, how tall are you, Logan?
[00:03:50]  Wow, that's pretty good, let me tell you.
[00:03:54]  But I want to congratulate what great athletes.
[00:03:56]  Thank you very much.
[00:03:57]  Great athletes, please.
[00:03:59]  Also, in the winner's circle, we have the 2025 NCAA men's tennis champions, the Wake Forest Demon Deacons, and Arnold Palmer was a great friend of mine in a slightly different sport.
[00:04:15]  How's your golf team doing?
[00:04:18]  I don't know.
[00:04:19]  Pretty good, right?
[00:04:20]  They're pretty good too.
[00:04:22]  But they battled through the fierce postseason to claim their second national title, DK Suresh.
[00:04:29]  Delivered the clinching point to CLA 4 2 victory over TCU in the final, and I want to congratulate you, and I see you right there.
[00:04:37]  I said, Who's the best player of the team?
[00:04:39]  And they all pointed to him.
[00:04:40]  Right?
[00:04:41]  So, congratulations, and that's really incredible, DK, what you've done.
[00:04:45]  You had a great year.
[00:04:46]  You all had a great year.
[00:04:47]  Thank you very much.
[00:04:48]  Good.
[00:04:50]  You know, Arnold Palmer was a great friend of mine.
[00:04:52]  I got to know him toward the end of his life.
[00:04:54]  He was an unbelievable champion.
[00:04:56]  Went to that school, right?
[00:04:58]  He went to that special school, and he used to love it.
[00:05:02]  And it's known for that.
[00:05:04]  It really was something.
[00:05:05]  I've been there.
[00:05:07]  Up next are the 2025 NCAA women's tennis champions, the Georgia Bulldogs, who just captured their third national title.
[00:05:16]  Stand up, please.
[00:05:21]  Sophia Rojas sealed this team's incredible victory, losing a first set before roaring back to dominate the next two and clinch Georgia's sweep over the team from Texas AM.
[00:05:33]  And all I can say is go Bulldogs.
[00:05:35]  That's a great state.
[00:05:36]  I love that state.
[00:05:37]  Did very well there, too, in the election.
[00:05:40]  You know, I only like the states that I win, so it's one of those.
[00:05:43]  But thank you very much.
[00:05:45]  Congratulations.
[00:05:46]  That's really fantastic.
[00:05:47]  What a great job.
[00:05:48]  That's not easy winning in tennis.

=== Jeffrey Clark's DOJ Involvement (16:05) ===

[00:05:51]  That's a tough thing to do.
[00:05:52]  I play tennis a little bit, not quite at that level.
[00:05:54]  Not quite.
[00:05:56]  But it's a great thing.
[00:05:57]  Congratulations.
[00:05:58]  Thank you very much for being here.
[00:06:00]  Thank you.
[00:06:01]  Thank you.
[00:06:02]  Also, with us are the 2025 National Collegiate Women's Bowling Champions.
[00:06:07]  They gave me a beautiful jacket the Youngstown State Penguins.
[00:06:11]  You know, the jacket's been gone over.
[00:06:13]  Where are you?
[00:06:15]  The jacket's been x rayed, gone over by Secret Service at a level.
[00:06:19]  It doesn't look the same.
[00:06:20]  It just doesn't.
[00:06:21]  They've gone over it to levels that you wouldn't believe.
[00:06:25]  But I want to thank.
[00:06:26]  Okay, welcome.
[00:06:27]  We're going to go back to the president if they answer.
[00:06:29]  He may take some questions on Iran right now.
[00:06:36]  He's awarding all the non football, non basketball champions, and they're great of NCAA.
[00:06:42]  But we've got so much going on today.
[00:06:44]  The great Dr. Peter Navarre joins me in studio.
[00:06:47]  Here's what I want to do we're going to do a cold open, and then I'm going to come to you.
[00:06:54]  You actually sat in the hearing today.
[00:06:55]  Senator Schmidt's also going to be with us, but we will go back.
[00:06:59]  To the White House as soon as the president starts taking questions, he may not.
[00:07:04]  Let's go and play the cold open for Dr. Peter Navarro.
[00:07:06]  A man who played a key role in President Trump's attempt to overturn the 2020 election returned to Capitol Hill to testify about that very case.
[00:07:16]  Jeffrey Clark was named as an unindicted co conspirator in special counsel Jack Smith's probe into fake electors scheme.
[00:07:24]  He was pardoned by President Trump last year.
[00:07:26]  And now Republicans are giving him another platform in Washington as they take issue with Smith's investigation.
[00:07:33]  But Democrats say Clark is bubbling over with conspiracies.
[00:07:39]  He has an idea, a theory, that the Chinese were hacking smart thermostats in the United States.
[00:07:47]  Another theory he has, the CIA was working with Italian contractor to use military satellites to change votes in America.
[00:07:57]  Another conspiracy theory, he even wanted to help Trump declare a national emergency under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
[00:08:05]  We are extremely fortunate in America that Mr. Clark's conspiracy theories and efforts failed.
[00:08:12]  Chris, this hearing was a trip into bizarro world where Republican senators who really should know better essentially tried to make the case that the Jack Smith investigation of Donald Trump's alleged conspiracy to try to overturn the 2020 election, which involved a lot of figures, including Jeffrey Clark, was somehow an improper weaponization full of misconduct by career FBI agents and prosecutors.
[00:08:36]  There's no evidence of that, no matter how hard they try to argue it.
[00:08:40]  And what was so interesting about this hearing is that they bring Jeffrey Clark to testify.
[00:08:44]  Jeffrey Clark tried to essentially co opt the Justice Department into claiming fraud when there was no fraud.
[00:08:51]  And he was indicted in Georgia over those allegations.
[00:08:54]  And he was named an unindicted co conspirator in the Jack Smith case.
[00:08:58]  And had he succeeded, there might have been a very different outcome in 2020.
[00:09:03]  But the fact is, Donald Trump wanted to make him attorney general, but every single senior official in Donald Trump's Justice Department threatened to resign if he did that and Trump backed down.
[00:09:12]  And now these Republican senators are trying to make.
[00:09:14]  Jeffrey Clark into some kind of hero and victim.
[00:09:17]  He's facing disbarment in Washington, D.C. Mr. Clark, the White House visitor log only appeared to record appointments with you on December 22nd, 2020, and January 3rd, 2021.
[00:09:30]  But we know you had more conversations with President Trump between those dates because Deputy Attorney General Donahue reprimanded you on January 2nd, 2021, for continuing to violate Department of Justice White House contacts policy.
[00:09:44]  Mr. Clark, what was your primary form of communication with President Trump during this time period?
[00:09:49]  Senator, I'm not going to answer questions about my communications with the president while I was in the executive branch.
[00:09:55]  That's privileged.
[00:09:57]  You can't even tell us that you had a conversation.
[00:09:59]  You've already volunteered that.
[00:10:01]  The public information that's come out about that, in terms of what was in the January 6th report, is one example.
[00:10:10]  I won't dispute that, but I'm not going to tell you exactly when I talked to him, how I talked to him.
[00:10:16]  These are all privileged matters.
[00:10:18]  Was a conversation where President Trump indicated he would appoint you acting attorney general in person or not?
[00:10:24]  Again, Senator, you're asking about matters that are privileged.
[00:10:28]  I do want to say something about Jack Smith, because the single most salient fact in regard to me of Jack Smith is that he referred to me initially in the indictment against Trump as unindicted co conspirator number four.
[00:10:39]  And after the Supreme Court's decision in Trump v. United States, he got a superseding indictment and it dropped all reference to me.
[00:10:48]  And the DC bar similarly should have immediately dropped his case.
[00:10:51]  If only we could get him under oath to ask a question like that.
[00:10:54]  Well, it sounds like that's coming, Senator.
[00:10:56]  Yeah.
[00:10:56]  In any event, in terms of.
[00:10:58]  I did not speak to current Director Patel in his former office.
[00:11:03]  I did speak to DNI head Radcliffe.
[00:11:07]  Did you make any contact with the FBI as he suggested?
[00:11:12]  There was no time to do that before the meeting on January 3rd that you referred to.
[00:11:16]  When I spoke to him, it was January 2nd.
[00:11:19]  Does it in some way endorse his wild and ridiculous ideas?
[00:11:26]  Well, it's a case of misplaced priorities, Chris, to be honest with you.
[00:11:30]  I mean, you have spent a lot of time in recent weeks talking about the president's polling and his almost record low favorability ratings, and the things that people care about are economic issues.
[00:11:43]  What's so interesting about the Senate Judiciary Committee is that it has oversight of antitrust issues.
[00:11:50]  And there have been a lot of reports in recent days about possible collusion amongst big egg manufacturers, egg producing companies.
[00:12:01]  Why not use this time to explore that, right?
[00:12:04]  They have oversight to an extent over oil companies who are making record profits right now.
[00:12:11]  So, you know, it is, I don't care.
[00:12:14]  What or how Jeffrey Clark tries to, you know, change how he is perceived by history is not going to work.
[00:12:24]  And Senate Republicans really are just missed a real messaging opportunity to show how they're fighting for the American public and what's top of mind for them.
[00:12:36]  Okay, Dr. Peter Navarro, you were at the hearing today.
[00:12:41]  You have a strong interest in this and know the players.
[00:12:44]  Put us in the room.
[00:12:47]  Schmidt, Senator Schmidt, that guy is off the charts.
[00:12:51]  I'm so happy that your audience is going to hear from him.
[00:12:55]  He gave the most concise and eloquent explanation of the weaponization of government.
[00:13:01]  The importance of what Senator Grassley is doing in a series of hearings cannot be overstated, Steve.
[00:13:10]  Watergate, if you think about it, was just a small burglary.
[00:13:15]  Documents, some photographs.
[00:13:18]  This.
[00:13:20]  What Grassley is going to prove is that this was a stolen presidency.
[00:13:30]  This is the biggest conspiracy this country has ever seen.
[00:13:35]  And it's really interesting.
[00:13:36]  You listen to these cold opens, everybody's trying to obfuscate what happened.
[00:13:40]  So let me try to put this in perspective.
[00:13:43]  And I speak from the perspective of somebody who went to prison as a result of this weaponization.
[00:13:49]  So you can think of me as a dot.
[00:13:53]  In a matrix, you're a dot, I'm a dot, and these operations.
[00:13:59]  I'm a bigger dot.
[00:14:02]  You got about 50 pounds on me, I'm looking at right now.
[00:14:06]  Hang on, hang on.
[00:14:07]  We're going to go to break.
[00:14:08]  I want to give you plenty of runway.
[00:14:09]  I get as good as I get, brother, so you keep throwing my way.
[00:14:12]  No, but I was so proud of the fact that you went down there today to sit through this.
[00:14:18]  And I'm glad that they turned it over to Schmidt to run this subcommittee, the Constitution Subcommittee.
[00:14:23]  We had a number of hitters in there.
[00:14:25]  Birchgold, there's so much going on in the Gulf right now.
[00:14:28]  I think the president was having a council of war, I would say, earlier.
[00:14:33]  Vice presidents are not on a jet.
[00:14:36]  The president actually said, following the war room, since we shattered the senior command of the Iranian military and political apparatus, he's going to give them another day or two, but he's going to keep the fleet in place and compete the blockade on.
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[00:15:00]  Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
[00:15:03]  See, no good deed goes unpunished.
[00:15:06]  I get Navarro back here.
[00:15:07]  I say, come on over from the White House.
[00:15:09]  You've been at the hearing all day.
[00:15:10]  I'm going to put you in the room.
[00:15:11]  First thing he does, take a shot at me.
[00:15:13]  No, no, no.
[00:15:14]  You took a shot at me.
[00:15:15]  I think the way I recall that was you took the shot at me.
[00:15:19]  All I did was do what Trump does.
[00:15:21]  You're a counterpunch, man.
[00:15:23]  You're a seven day.
[00:15:24]  I'm the second best counterpunch in the White House.
[00:15:26]  You're the seven day a week guy.
[00:15:29]  Even with your new bride, you were seven days a week.
[00:15:31]  For you to take off and go up to our hearing, Is a big deal.
[00:15:34]  It's a big deal.
[00:15:35]  Why did you do that?
[00:15:36]  Because this effort that Grassley's leading, John Solomon is a real catalyst on this.
[00:15:44]  The DOJ and FBI are finally coming around to this.
[00:15:49]  And what this is, is this, okay?
[00:15:52]  What we have, Steve, is a stolen election.
[00:15:56]  Let's be clear about that.
[00:15:57]  There's no question about that.
[00:15:59]  But what we have more broadly is a weaponized government.
[00:16:03]  And today they talked about Arctic Frost, which is like this federal operation that was the foundation of Jack Smith's electric case against Trump, which also ensnared all these other folks like John Eastman, Jeff Clark, and all of that, and all these different states, right?
[00:16:22]  So what's interesting about this is, for example, five people, John Crabb, Walter Giardina, Jonathan Sue, Tebow, and Tolman.
[00:16:33]  Who are these people?
[00:16:34]  Well, Crabs, the guy who prosecuted you and me, sent us to prison.
[00:16:38]  Giardina is the FBI agent who put me in leg irons and arms and everything.
[00:16:46]  Jonathan Sue is the White House deputy legal counsel who took away you and my right for executive privilege as well as the president.
[00:16:57]  And Tebow was like the guy who oversaw all this, and Tolman was part of that whole process.
[00:17:03]  Now, What do we learn from them?
[00:17:05]  Well, it turns out that we're dots in this matrix.
[00:17:09]  And those guys, as they were going after us, it turns out that they appear, according to whistleblowers, involved in all the other things.
[00:17:18]  This was a sustained, chronic attack on the president that began with the Russia hoax, began with the Steele dossier.
[00:17:26]  Follow me here, Warham.
[00:17:27]  Back Crossfire Hurricane.
[00:17:29]  Crossfire Hurricane.
[00:17:30]  That's the first one.
[00:17:31]  Now, Walter Giordano, the FBI agent.
[00:17:36]  Who put me in leg irons and was involved with you as well?
[00:17:40]  He was the guy who read the steel dossier, according to whistleblowers, and said, This is true, when we know it was like absolutely false.
[00:17:50]  And what that did was set in motion Crossfire Hurricane and eventually the Mueller report, and he worked on that, right?
[00:18:00]  And then you go, and there's all these other operations Crimson River, a.k.a. Red Masari.
[00:18:07]  There's the Art Frost one.
[00:18:09]  And what's interesting, Steve, is all these guys that Grassley's uncovering with whistleblowers are involved in not just one of them, but in all of them.
[00:18:19]  Okay?
[00:18:20]  All of them.
[00:18:21]  So this was like this sustained effort.
[00:18:23]  It went like four years.
[00:18:25]  And don't bury the lead.
[00:18:26]  It goes all the way to the White House.
[00:18:28]  This is not some independent DOJ or FBI.
[00:18:30]  Jonathan Sue.
[00:18:31]  This guy's a shadowy dealer, right?
[00:18:35]  And after, interestingly enough, after.
[00:18:38]  He tried to take away executive privilege from me, you, and the president.
[00:18:44]  He got out of the White House because he knew the heat was coming down.
[00:18:47]  But before that, he was also involved in all this other stuff.
[00:18:52]  So, what's going to happen here is as we get more and more of these emails that see the communication between all of these folks, we're going to see possible felonies.
[00:19:05]  For example, one thing this FBI agent Giordina might have done.
[00:19:11]  Was violate the rules of getting information and looking at all the wiretaps.
[00:19:18]  Now, keep in mind, keep in mind, this stuff, Watergate was like one wiretap at the DNC, right?
[00:19:28]  This thing, Arctic Frost, involved hundreds and maybe thousands of illegal looks at people like everybody at the RNC.
[00:19:41]  I had to laugh out loud when I saw this one.
[00:19:44]  They went after the Republican attorneys general.
[00:19:48]  Okay?
[00:19:49]  Everybody who was in the Republican's attorney general.
[00:19:52]  That organization, yeah.
[00:19:53]  I mean, that's unbelievable.
[00:19:55]  And so in this country, When you have an entire government, White House, Congress, and judges, by the way, all pushing along this apparatus, the process.
[00:20:13]  One of the things Schmidt said that was beautiful today the process is the punishment.
[00:20:19]  And the ultimate goal was to stop Trump from getting back to the White House.
[00:20:25]  But one of the ways to do that is basically through the lawfare that takes all.
[00:20:31]  He's the king on the chessboard.
[00:20:33]  But it's going to bankrupt people.
[00:20:34]  We're pawns and rooks and all that.
[00:20:37]  Let me ask you so much of this, Arnold Frost and what they did under Biden in 21, but some of this, I talked to Solomon today, a big hunk of this happened on Trump's watch when he was the head of the.
[00:20:49]  I mean, it was Chris Ray.
[00:20:50]  It's Bill Barr.
[00:20:52]  Hang on.
[00:20:54]  Now you've got Thune, who won't turn over the official testimony of Brennan so that we get that rolling.
[00:21:02]  You've got the Republican establishment that is, and you saw the Democrats in all their glory today Welch and Durbin and that crowd.
[00:21:09]  But the Republican establishment, except for a handful of people, most of whom are on this committee, are one of the biggest blocks of making some progress on this.
[00:21:19]  Are they not, sir?
[00:21:20]  We can see that even now.
[00:21:21]  The DOJ.
[00:21:23]  In the FBI, they got to rapidly increase their cadence here, okay?
[00:21:28]  Because they've been holding on to stuff.
[00:21:31]  I mean, Solomon's like a bulldog on this stuff.
[00:21:33]  Cash tells us he told Maria Bartiroma two weeks, yeah, coming shortly.
[00:21:38]  Yeah, well, yeah, she was bracing him up, right?
[00:21:42]  And she's sitting there frustrated, goes, I want to forget about accountability.
[00:21:45]  I want to show me the money.
[00:21:46]  I want to see, I want to see, show me the diaries.
[00:21:49]  But here's my point is that this thing that Grassley's doing is he's uncovering.

=== Holding Weaponizers Accountable (14:33) ===

[00:21:56]  All of the backwaters of these agencies where these deep staters live and suppress things.
[00:22:02]  And that's why these names are important.
[00:22:04]  I mean, I want to see John Craig.
[00:22:07]  You know, that guy still works at the DOJ?
[00:22:10]  Can you believe this?
[00:22:10]  I think he works at the DOJ.
[00:22:13]  He works for Pirro.
[00:22:14]  Yes.
[00:22:14]  He works for Pirro.
[00:22:15]  The guy still works there.
[00:22:16]  Why is that?
[00:22:17]  He prosecuted you and me and was involved in all of the J6 stuff.
[00:22:22]  You're supposed to have some stroke.
[00:22:23]  That's why.
[00:22:24]  You work at the White House.
[00:22:26]  Last time I looked, your assistant.
[00:22:27]  Hang on, hang on.
[00:22:28]  Don't worry about the DOJ.
[00:22:29]  You're an assistant to the president.
[00:22:31]  I'm a senior counselor.
[00:22:33]  I think that's the equivalent of a major general.
[00:22:35]  This ain't about me.
[00:22:35]  I'm just bringing the news.
[00:22:39]  This is my version of just the news.
[00:22:41]  But the point is that as we uncover all of the communications of these deep staters, we are able to connect the dots in a way which shows the biggest conspiracy in American history in terms of politics.
[00:22:57]  Full stop.
[00:22:58]  Full stop.
[00:22:58]  And the Democrats, they keep running away from this.
[00:23:01]  It's like when Senator Schmidt finished his eloquent statement today, Welch comes over and immediately he pivots and he says, It's like, oh, I was on the Capitol when all the violence happened.
[00:23:15]  It's just like that.
[00:23:16]  And so somehow that justifies a whole apparatus, a whole government going in and basically put George.
[00:23:24]  George is not stupid.
[00:23:26]  He asked really good.
[00:23:27]  The first question he asked was great, which is, Who won the 2020 election?
[00:23:31]  And of course, that's a very simple answer.
[00:23:34]  I remember the Green Bay sweep.
[00:23:35]  Yes.
[00:23:36]  Joe Biden did not win 2020.
[00:23:38]  Donald Trump won the 2020 election.
[00:23:42]  The illegal and inappropriate certification of those electors in those states, those battleground states, particularly states like Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona, remains unrebutted.
[00:23:59]  Unrebutted.
[00:24:01]  That is the best document proving the If you had made one tiny mathematical error, Rachel Maddow would spend a whole hour.
[00:24:13]  Look, I'm thinking that.
[00:24:17]  This is taking me back six years.
[00:24:18]  I know.
[00:24:19]  Days you have to go all over again.
[00:24:20]  But what boggles my mind is like I look, I thought, okay, I'm going through troubles.
[00:24:27]  You're going through troubles.
[00:24:28]  Trump's going through troubles.
[00:24:29]  Eastman's going through troubles.
[00:24:31]  Clark's going through troubles.
[00:24:32]  But it turns out all those troubles were a handful of the same friggin' people turning the same dials in ways which were flat out illegal and were done for purely partisan reasons.
[00:24:46]  Reasons.
[00:24:47]  We're going to have Senator Schmidt on from, and really want to thank Senator Schmidt.
[00:24:50]  And by the way, we will go back to the White House to the president, take some questions.
[00:24:54]  He's been in a, I think he's been dealing with Iran for most of the afternoon.
[00:24:59]  He took a short break to recognize and highlight the NCAA winners of other sports besides football and basketball.
[00:25:14]  What would you like to see come out of this?
[00:25:16]  Because this hearing was loaded today, although Real America's Voice, we covered it.
[00:25:21]  Fox, I don't think touched it, right?
[00:25:23]  Because that's not given the hearing.
[00:25:25]  Fox didn't do the hearing, but they did, to their credit, show some clips.
[00:25:29]  Yes, absolutely.
[00:25:30]  It was so powerful.
[00:25:31]  But given their hearing, Steve, there was nobody in the hearing.
[00:25:35]  It's boggling my mind.
[00:25:37]  This is the biggest.
[00:25:38]  This makes Watergate look like the minor leagues.
[00:25:42]  It is.
[00:25:42]  But you're going to have to drive that.
[00:25:43]  Yeah.
[00:25:44]  We have to drive that.
[00:25:45]  I think maybe if we get on the war room, we might reach a few people.
[00:25:49]  So we got a minute before we go to break.
[00:25:50]  You're going to stick around.
[00:25:53]  What do you want to see this go as far as another hearing?
[00:25:56]  I want DOJ to just release all the stuff that folks like Grassley's asking for and John Solomon are asking for and just cut to that chase.
[00:26:08]  And then the information will be the best disinfectant, man.
[00:26:12]  This is going to be frigging huge.
[00:26:14]  Can you stick around?
[00:26:15]  Yeah, I'm around for a little bit.
[00:26:16]  Can you stick around for a little bit?
[00:26:17]  I got to meet Mr. Schmidt again.
[00:26:19]  I love that guy.
[00:26:20]  Yeah, he's fantastic.
[00:26:21]  I hadn't met him before.
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[00:27:01]  Okay, you're going to give me a heads up when Senator Schmidt is seated, and we're going to play a short cold open.
[00:27:08]  Like I said, we're going to go back to the White House if the president takes any questions.
[00:27:13]  Senator Schmidt, thank you for joining us.
[00:27:17]  We're going to play a quick cold open with your open today at the subcommittee meeting.
[00:27:24]  I have Dr. Navarro.
[00:27:25]  Senator Schmidt, that was one of the finest.
[00:27:28]  Speeches I have ever heard.
[00:27:31]  It just nailed the weaponization themes beautifully.
[00:27:34]  So it was great to meet you.
[00:27:36]  Let's play a quick clip and we're going to bring the senator in.
[00:27:40]  Who authorized this?
[00:27:41]  How far did it go?
[00:27:43]  Why were these records sought?
[00:27:44]  Why were their secrecy orders used?
[00:27:46]  Why were prosecutors discussing ways around speech or debate protections?
[00:27:51]  Why was the Biden White House communicating with Fonnie Willis's team?
[00:27:55]  What was Nathan Wade doing at the White House the same day Jack Smith was appointed?
[00:28:00]  Why did senior Biden DOJ officials end up helping lead the Manhattan case?
[00:28:05]  And what must Congress do to ensure that this never happens again?
[00:28:09]  That argument is not only wrong, it's dangerous.
[00:28:12]  There is a fundamental difference between weaponizing the government and holding the weaponizers accountable.
[00:28:19]  Weaponizing government means using subpoenas, search warrants, secrecy orders, prosecutions, and federal power to punish your political opponents.
[00:28:28]  Holding the weaponizers accountable means exposing that abuse.
[00:28:32]  Demanding answers and restoring the rule of law.
[00:28:35]  Weaponizing government means turning law enforcement into a political weapon.
[00:28:40]  Oversight means Congress doing its constitutional duty to make sure that that weapon is never aimed at the American people again.
[00:28:47]  That is why this hearing matters.
[00:28:49]  Because if the government can secretly map, burden, and punish the political opposition, then political opposition in America is tolerated only until it becomes effective.
[00:29:00]  And if Congress cannot investigate that, then oversight is dead.
[00:29:04]  Accountability is dead and the weaponizers win.
[00:29:07]  And we will not let that happen.
[00:29:10]  Senator Schmidt, given your many times here on the show, the audience knows that you're a man of action.
[00:29:16]  And I think that's what really, when we did the live stream today, people were very excited that you chaired this and that you came at it with a no nonsense attitude.
[00:29:25]  Can you summarize what you believed you learned today and what is our path forward, sir?
[00:29:32]  Well, I think that the more we learn about it, the more terrifying this whole operation was.
[00:29:38]  I think we had some sense of the timeline and the arc of the story, which, of course, Jack Smith, two days after President Trump announces he's running for president again, is appointed as special counsel.
[00:29:48]  We see all these zombie cases resurrected in these jurisdictions that are rigged with prosecutors who want to jail their chief political adversary in President Trump, throw him in jail for the rest of his life.
[00:29:59]  But I think the more we learn, Steve, about this is how broad in scope it was.
[00:30:05]  This wasn't just about President Trump.
[00:30:07]  This was about going after the American right, intimidating.
[00:30:11]  And I think ultimately what Jack Smith wanted was a big time show trial where everybody's brought in.
[00:30:18]  I mean, think of just sort of this Soviet style sense of justice.
[00:30:22]  That's what he really wanted.
[00:30:23]  And he thought he was like the main character, he was the good guy.
[00:30:26]  Jack Smith's a dirtbag and he's a villain in this story.
[00:30:29]  And I think we need to expose that.
[00:30:31]  And I also think that we need to have Jack Smith come before that committee.
[00:30:35]  But in order to do that, All these documents that we're gathering in these hearings are really important because, as a prosecutor, former attorney general, you want to have as much information as you can before Jack Smith is under oath on that witness stand.
[00:30:46]  And we ask him a bunch of questions about what this was about.
[00:30:48]  But I think we know this was, at the highest level, a thousand times worse than Watergate, Steve.
[00:30:53]  I mean, this makes Watergate look like a third rate burglary.
[00:30:57]  This is, at the highest levels of government, a coordinated effort with different prosecutors at different jurisdictions, with Jack Smith, a known sort of henchman in all this, was to get President Trump, get him off the ballot.
[00:31:10]  Throw him in jail for the rest of his life and intimidate the rest of our movement so that this populist movement that we've seen that was brought to bear 10 years ago is dead.
[00:31:20]  And what they ended up doing, because the American people sat in that jury box themselves, Steve, they rendered their own verdict and it was an acquittal and bringing back in the best political comeback President Trump.
[00:31:31]  So we cannot let this lie.
[00:31:33]  I don't think we can let this go because we have to make sure that the people who weaponize government are held accountable.
[00:31:39]  And that means prosecutions, as far as I'm concerned.
[00:31:42]  I want to make sure because you mentioned like the Moscow show trial in 1935, which is what Jack Smith was drawing to here in Washington, D.C., where they had a rigged jury.
[00:31:52]  Durbin taunted you today, taunted Jeff Clark.
[00:31:55]  On MSNBC, they're taunting us.
[00:31:57]  I just want to make sure your plan is once you get enough documentation, is to have Jack Smith come under oath and be able to answer questions of your subcommittee, sir?
[00:32:10]  Well, that would be in front of the full Judiciary Committee, and Chairman Grassley would have.
[00:32:14]  To call for that, but that's certainly something that I'm advocating for.
[00:32:16]  So we've had three different subcommittee hearings, Steve.
[00:32:20]  I chair the subcommittee on the Constitution.
[00:32:22]  We had two others where we each time we keep getting more and more documents from whistleblowers.
[00:32:27]  But I think to build that case to have as much information possible, ultimately the culmination of this Arctic Frost committee is in front of the full Judiciary Committee with Jack Smith in front of that committee.
[00:32:37]  And then after that, we'll see, let the chips fall where they may.
[00:32:42]  But I do think, and I certainly hope, That this broader conspiracy that even predates Arctic Frost is something that the Democrats thought they were killing a movement.
[00:32:52]  They thought they were getting rid of Trump.
[00:32:55]  And what they did was they helped bring him back, I think, because the American people saw this for what it was.
[00:32:59]  But we have a job as fact finders, I think, through this oversight to get as much information as we can in front of Jack Smith coming before that committee.
[00:33:07]  Senator, you saw Welch today, you saw Durbin, the rest of them today.
[00:33:12]  But how much cooperation are you getting?
[00:33:14]  I think this is one of the frustrations of people.
[00:33:16]  They see you take charge in this today.
[00:33:19]  I think most people felt it went great.
[00:33:22]  But are you getting cooperation from other Republicans?
[00:33:25]  Like there are issues about Thune holding back Senator Thune right now.
[00:33:29]  They're not releasing some of the testimony of Brennan.
[00:33:32]  It's all these issues about the grand jury down in Florida.
[00:33:36]  You've got other issues.
[00:33:37]  People are telling me that even your committee is having a tough time on requests and getting information.
[00:33:41]  We know that Tom Finton and John Solomon are saying they have no FOIA.
[00:33:47]  The Trump administration and some various branches that are slow walking things.
[00:33:51]  Do you think the Republicans?
[00:33:54]  Overall, think like you do and members of your subcommittee that this is a thousand times worse than Watergate.
[00:34:02]  And for the good of our republic going forward, we have to get all the information out and hold people accountable that did this, sir?
[00:34:09]  I think so.
[00:34:10]  But like with any organization, there are some that are more energized and action oriented than others.
[00:34:18]  Listen, I saw this front and center.
[00:34:21]  I was, because part of this dragnet, Steve, I mean, you lived it, Peter lived it.
[00:34:26]  Um, I was at the time I was chairman of the Republican Attorneys General Association.
[00:34:31]  We had records subpoenaed unbeknownst to us when I was chairman.
[00:34:34]  I was also in front of those you know 2020 election lawsuits.
[00:34:38]  I mean, the damage that they wanted to inflict on anybody associated with this you know challenge in 2020 or anything after they were out to ruin people's lives.
[00:34:48]  I don't need any convincing of what the demo the core aspect of the Democrat Party right now is, it is just raw political power.
[00:34:55]  That's it, there's no rule.
[00:34:56]  There's no standard.
[00:34:59]  There's no norm.
[00:35:00]  There's no law.
[00:35:01]  They are not willing to break for absolute political control.
[00:35:04]  This is not your grandfather's Democrat Party.
[00:35:07]  This is an obsession with President Trump.
[00:35:10]  And they feel justified, Steve.
[00:35:12]  They feel justified because of Trump derangement syndrome.
[00:35:14]  They're willing to do anything.
[00:35:15]  As they would say, they're willing to bulldoze democracy to save democracy.
[00:35:20]  And so it's our job to hold them to account on that.
[00:35:23]  And we cannot lose sight of that.
[00:35:24]  If we don't think that this is going to happen again, We're fooling ourselves if there are not repercussions.
[00:35:29]  And so I think we've got to be steadfast on this and have that kind of fire in our belly, not just for answers, but for true accountability.
[00:35:37]  You know, you're so correct.
[00:35:38]  We're going to cut to the Justice Department.
[00:35:40]  Cash is answering questions.
[00:35:41]  Patel, I think about Southern Poverty Law Center investigation there.
[00:35:44]  We're covering tonight in the next hour of Virginia.
[00:35:48]  As you know, Senator, they're trying to shift a map in the Commonwealth to 10 to 1.
[00:35:53]  I mean, this is not your father or grandfather's Democratic Party.
[00:35:58]  Before we let you go, just any guidance to the War Room posse?
[00:36:01]  What can they look forward to?
[00:36:03]  Where is this heading?
[00:36:04]  Where are you putting your effort, sir?
[00:36:07]  I think we're headed towards hopefully a summer or spring hearing with Jack Smith, and I'm guessing that'll be pretty explosive.
[00:36:14]  But we want to make sure we have all the information possible.
[00:36:17]  We need to pursue this, and we need to make sure.
[00:36:19]  And by the way, I also think predating Arctic Frost, the really important thing, Steve, is this started, they never forgave President Trump for coming down the escalator.
[00:36:29]  We have to remember that.

=== Remembering The Escalator Incident (06:22) ===

[00:36:30]  And whether it was when he was a candidate and they spied on him, or laundering the intelligence documents, or Elvis Chan with hiding the.
[00:36:39]  You know, are threatening to censor and withhold the Hunter Biden laptop when they knew it was real.
[00:36:45]  This was an ongoing effort because they resented not just President Trump, but normal Americans where I live in Missouri who were fighting back against the elitists who were stealing our country, shipping our jobs overseas.
[00:36:56]  We had the guts to stand up and fight back.
[00:36:58]  President Trump was our vessel.
[00:37:00]  They never forgave any of us for it, and they weaponized the judicial system against everybody.
[00:37:04]  And that is, I think, the takeaway here.
[00:37:06]  We can't lose sight of what that was about and what it could be again if they ever get power.
[00:37:11]  Senator, people in our audience have a high level of interest in this.
[00:37:15]  How can they follow you?
[00:37:16]  Social media, website, where do they go?
[00:37:18]  Yeah, at Eric Schmidt, S C H M I T T is the X handle.
[00:37:22]  There's an official one, Senator Eric Schmidt.
[00:37:24]  The other one's my personal.
[00:37:26]  Then on Facebook and then also on Instagram, Eric Schmidt Mo.
[00:37:31]  So we're pretty active on social media.
[00:37:33]  We try to keep people informed with clips, opinions, and we try to have a little fun with it too.
[00:37:38]  But this is a pretty serious topic.
[00:37:40]  And like I said, and you know this, This makes Watergate, this is just 100, 1,000 times bigger than Watergate.
[00:37:47]  There's no question in my mind what the levels they went to to try to get rid of President Trump, to try to put him in jail, and also derail this movement we have.
[00:37:57]  Well, I got to tell you, from your opening comments to tee it up today, all the way through the questions and the responses, the sense of gravitas, I think people realize this is very serious and we have serious people running it now.
[00:38:09]  Senator, thank you so much for what you did today and thank you for coming on the war room.
[00:38:13]  Thank you, sir.
[00:38:16]  Dr. Navarro got called back to the White House for a meeting, as often happens.
[00:38:21]  I want to thank Peter for coming down here.
[00:38:22]  Really want to thank Peter for a great piece that Dr. Navarro wrote that was up today in The Federalist.
[00:38:31]  I really want to thank Sean Davis and the team over there.
[00:38:33]  The Federalist is, I think, one of the most extraordinary sites out there.
[00:38:37]  If you get a chance, it's totally free, no paywall, just like Daily Signal and Breitbart.
[00:38:43]  Go there every day, Citizens Free Press.
[00:38:47]  Gateway pundits, some of the great sites we have on the right, National Pulse.
[00:38:53]  They put up a great piece today at the Federalist with Dr. Peter Navarre about this, not about economics, not about some of the things he's been working on on trade and obviously teeing up everything for this big China meeting.
[00:39:08]  I think the China meeting may have a little different tone on it, given that President Trump is not backing off the blockade.
[00:39:17]  I don't think it's confusion.
[00:39:19]  Of what's coming out of Iran.
[00:39:21]  It's what we've talked about here in the war room.
[00:39:23]  And President Trump just put out a true social moments ago saying, hey, look, we kind of shattered the command over there.
[00:39:28]  We don't really know who's in charge.
[00:39:30]  We know they've distributed out the military operation to about 30 nodes.
[00:39:36]  I keep saying the pirates down at Strait of Hormuz, I don't think really report to anybody.
[00:39:42]  They've been reporting to themselves for 2,000 years, and I think they're still doing it.
[00:39:45]  Now they realize they can actually hondle people and get $2 million per vessel.
[00:39:52]  They're not going to give that up.
[00:39:53]  But the president said he's going to extend, at least we're not going to attack for a while, but the Navy's going to keep the blockade up, and we are going to not pull back any of our naval forces.
[00:40:08]  So a lot going on today.
[00:40:10]  We're going to take a short commercial break here and get into it.
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[00:40:15]  It's the last hour to the run up of 7 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, where the polls close in Virginia.
[00:40:22]  I think people have done.
[00:40:23]  We got to run through the tape.
[00:40:25]  You still got a ways to go, but I think people did a very good job today.
[00:40:29]  But we can always do better.
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=== Indicting SPLC Executives (04:53) ===

[00:42:52]  This Justice Department, a major Justice Department press conference with both Kash Patel and Todd Blanch on an organization that is about as demonic as you can get the Southern Poverty Law Center.
[00:43:05]  Can you get us up to speed on what happened, sir?
[00:43:09]  Yeah, I just found out a little while ago an 11-count indictment by an Alabama grand jury, including bank fraud for setting up fictitious companies by SPLC, Southern Poverty Law Center executives, lying about the purpose of those accounts, and then six counts of wire fraud conspiracy to commit money laundering.
[00:43:30]  It looks like Todd Blanch is off to a running start here in his new role.
[00:43:35]  It's a nonprofit, and they need to operate lawfully with transparency, and apparently they didn't do that.
[00:43:40]  And they even paid money to groups like the KKK.
[00:43:44]  And the National Front and the National Socialist Movement, the American Front.
[00:43:49]  You know, Steve, I'm standing here in the Capitol Rotunda, and right under us, that tram where we saw all those Trump clothes strewn about the day of J6, you know, did they have anything to do with bussing in any of those groups who started stuff on J6?
[00:44:02]  And then in Charlottesville as well, it was brought up in the press conference about Charlottesville.
[00:44:07]  How many plants were bussed in in Charlottesville of groups that got money from the SPLC?
[00:44:12]  And my family has been a victim of the SPLC.
[00:44:15]  We ran a group on Long Island.
[00:44:17]  that was targeted by them, and also Acts for America and other groups.
[00:44:20]  How many good groups are taken down when, in fact, they were the evil presence that were paying groups to commit, I believe, acts of violence and other.
[00:44:31]  That should come out.
[00:44:32]  And $3 million were paid to activists over an eight-year period.
[00:44:39]  They went into some detail on that.
[00:44:42]  And I got to say, this is really earth-shaking because the left depended on the SPLC.
[00:44:49]  And you know, this guy's a hate group, that guy's a hate group, they're hate speech, and they're the ones who were guilty of it allegedly.
[00:44:57]  Okay, we're going to get to all of that.
[00:45:00]  Cash and Todd, we're also going to talk in the six o'clock hour about what's going on in Virginia in the last hour as we run through the tape.
[00:45:07]  The chairman of the Virginia Republican Party is going to join us, and others of these chairmen of these rural counties that have really led the fight, the grassroots effort that led the fight.
[00:45:16]  And so I'm so proud of Todd Blanch, DOJ, FBI, going after Southern Poverty Law Center.
[00:45:22]  There's not a bigger group of demons in the United States than these people, and they all should be in prison.
[00:45:28]  Real quickly, David, because the president is obviously talking to his military leadership and national security leadership about what we're going to do in Iran, even as we speak.
[00:45:38]  You were there for the budget.
[00:45:39]  Tell me, you were there for the budget meeting today at the Pentagon.
[00:45:42]  What did you learn?
[00:45:45]  It's a large budget.
[00:45:46]  It's about a 42% increase over last year's here.
[00:45:49]  And there's a lot of things in there that focus on shifting from government bureaucracy to cooperation with the private sector.
[00:45:57]  That was the theme across the board, getting stuff at speed and scale in alignment with Trump's defense executive order, acquisition executive orders to get it to our troops.
[00:46:07]  A lot of money in here that I noticed.
[00:46:09]  One of the things that stood out for me is autonomous warfare.
[00:46:13]  I think there were only a couple of hundred million dollars in that in last year's budget.
[00:46:16]  It's 54 or so billion dollars this year.
[00:46:20]  drone technology and other autonomous submarine and type vessels.
[00:46:25]  You know, I was at that Anderold facility with Pete Hegseth a few months ago in Rhode Island, underwater autonomous vehicles.
[00:46:31]  And it's a massive budget, but a lot of stuff goes to pay raises for our troops on a sliding scale, depending on your rank, improving their housing and living conditions.
[00:46:40]  But the other thing that really struck me here is the Navy's concentration, $65 billion for the Trump battleship type program, the Golden Fleet, and other things here.
[00:46:52]  The Navy presentation was very, very impressive, Steve.
[00:46:57]  291 ships currently in our inventory, but they're going to be speeding up the delivery of these capabilities there.
[00:47:04]  And it was just a comprehensive presentation.
[00:47:09]  Sounds like they're pretty motivated.
[00:47:11]  We'll see if it gets through the House Armed Services Committee.
[00:47:14]  HEGSAT is scheduled to testify, I think, next week with General Kane, maybe on the 29th in front of the House Armed Services Committee, and we'll see if this budget 1.5 trillion can get approved.
[00:47:27]  It's just, you talk about the fleet and the operational tempo.
[00:47:30]  When I entered the service during the Carter years, I think the fleet was 252 ships.
[00:47:36]  President Reagan made a commitment to build a 600 ship Navy, and that's one of the reasons we brought down the evil empire.
[00:47:42]  The tempo we have today, you just can't do it with 291 ships.

=== Demons Need To Go To Prison (01:03) ===

[00:47:46]  It's impossible.
[00:47:46]  David Zier, your social media, where do people go to get your recording, sir?
[00:47:52]  At Dave Zier on X and David Zier on everything else, Steve.
[00:47:56]  Thank you so much.
[00:47:57]  Thank you, brother.
[00:47:58]  Appreciate you.
[00:47:58]  Okay, we're going to go to the Commonwealth of Virginia, where no doubt one of the most important elections, I think, in recent times are taking place because this could really refocus and shift the House of Representatives.
[00:48:13]  And they're running 100% on impeaching President Trump.
[00:48:17]  So we're going to talk to some of the top activists that have been driving this, and they have done yeoman work.
[00:48:23]  These people are patriots and heroes.
[00:48:25]  Also, the Southern Poverty Law Center, a nest of demons.
[00:48:30]  The people that donate are demons.
[00:48:32]  The people that work there are demons.
[00:48:34]  The crooks that run it are demons.
[00:48:36]  And these demons need to go to prison.
[00:48:39]  We started the process today over at the Justice Department with the FBI and the Attorney General of the United States or the Acting Attorney General.
[00:48:46]  Short commercial break.
[00:48:47]  We're going to be back in the war room.
[00:48:49]  Just a moment.