WarRoom Battleground EP 987: Updates From South Carolina To Take Down Lindsey Graham; Manifestation Of Globalism In The EU
Stephen K. Bannon and Ben Harnwell analyze Paul Danz's suspension to back Mark Lynch against Lindsey Graham, labeling the incumbent a dangerous neocon. They argue Viktor Orban's Hungarian defeat was a strategic appeasement of the EU, which withheld $35 billion, rather than a policy rejection. Predicting Cardinal Robert Prevost will become Pope Leo to court American donors, they condemn the Vatican and EU for promoting secular globalism while praising President Trump for defending Christendom against these institutions. [Automatically generated summary]
We got a lot to get through, including 60 Minutes of Pope, Orban, all of it.
I'm going to get to it in a second, but I want to start with I know you've had an active interest in this, the neocon movement here that's kind of gotten us in this jam in the Middle East, led by really, you know, Lindsey Graham, who I think is nothing short of totally revolting.
And particularly for the folks in South Carolina, how this has been allowed to continue on.
Huge development in that race over the weekend.
First off, Lindsey's been polling below 50%.
And you can see it's a problem because they've started to get nasty about some of the competition and the people working for the competition.
Lindsey Graham actually had a press conference last week and called a bunch of folks anti Semites.
You know, the same parlor tricks that used to work all the time that fall flat or don't work anymore, as Lindsey Graham's been out of control.
But Paul Danz and Paul joins us now.
Paul's one of the architects of Project 2025 and worked for years in those years in the wilderness with President Trump and the MAGA movement to really, as public intellectuals, kind of come together and lay out a foundational element of what would be the second Trump terms revolution.
And quite frankly, in the first six or nine months, it was absolutely instrumental, kind of overwhelmed the system with just great ideas and great thought through policies.
We had the executive orders, et cetera.
Of course, Las Vidas and that crowd denied it when I was in prison in 24.
Of course, that was a bald faced lie.
It was absolutely always part of the underpinnings of what was going to happen.
You can see that.
It's not an opinion, just a fact.
You look at what happened and coming out in the first six or nine months of the administration, it flooded the zone.
This was the policies that did it.
Paul, a big announcement on Friday.
You had announced, I think you moved to South Carolina a couple years ago.
You had announced you're running for the Senate, but you announced on Friday that you're suspending your campaign, pulling out of the race, and you're throwing your weight against another one of Lindsey Graham's competitors, Mark Lynch.
Walk me through that.
And what lessons have you learned from this race?
Because I think a lot of people, particularly Warren Posse, are kind of shocked knowing the patriotism and how MAGA the Republicans are in South Carolina, how Lindsey, and he's been so out of control.
During this Iran war, it's really been, I call it revolting or offensive and dangerous to the country, dangerous to our allies, and particularly dangerous to our men and women in service in harm's way.
So, what have you learned about in South Carolina?
Why did you drop out of the race and why did you throw your weight in the back of Mark Lynch?
If you get this, you go to the primary and he's under 50%, you go to a runoff.
But as you've gone around, because the campaign didn't have a lot of cash, so you had to do it the old fashioned way, events, Oppressing the flesh, meaning people.
As you go around in Carolina, I think the rest of the nation is sitting there going, How can this guy, particularly his out of control behavior?
He's been inebriated a bunch going on TV.
He's been arrogant.
He's talked about Saudi Arabia.
We have to have a perpetuity defense deal, expose us to the Middle East forever with Saudi Arabia so that they come and help us in this war in the Persian Gulf.
The stuff he's saying is dangerous, but it also sounds unhinged.
What if folks, because people say, hey, look, South Carolina is one of the railheads of the MAGA movement.
You don't come any more patriotic.
You don't come any more hardcore conservative.
So, as you go around press of flesh, what are people saying about this?
Well, I'm standing up to say no more to this humiliation ritual.
I mean, this is one of the great mysteries.
And when I travel outside the state, people are like, yeah, but Lindsey Grimm, how do you explain that?
Look, back up.
This is the same guy who put both of Obama's Supreme Court justices on the bench.
This is Grammisti, the Gang of Eight.
You go back, this guy has a murderer's row of awful takes.
He's the guy who called President Trump the worst nominee in the history of the Republican Party.
He's the guy who said President Trump was unfit to be commander in chief.
Later on, he was the one who told John McCain to give that steel dossier to the FBI in the first place.
He didn't even vote for President Trump.
He voted for that Evan McMuffin deep state character.
So this is the worst embodiment.
And yeah, the same guy after President Trump raked and stolen, you know, said about the J6 protesters, told the Capitol Police they should have shot more of them in the head.
So how has he held on to power?
Basically because no one with courage has stepped forward to challenge him.
And it is a money thing.
Look, I put my.
You know, my fortune, if you will, which is a meager one by comparison, but this is about the land of patriots.
This is the land of patriots.
We stand on hollow ground here in South Carolina.
Thomas Sumter, Andrew Pickens, the swamp fox, Francis Marion, you start naming them.
This is where the revolution happened.
And if we never would have gotten our freedom if one patriot was shooting at another, that was what was in front of me to like start tearing down Mr. Lynch.
And I said, No, I'm not going to do this.
The reason I got in this race is to.
Get rid of Lindsey Graham and Mr. Lynch.
He's a patriot, he has a lot of his own personal resources, he's a successful businessman.
So, you know, we have a 60 day push here, and this is for everyone, not just the patriots in South Carolina, it's for the whole war room.
This is for everybody.
This is the battle.
This is Lexington and Concord for America first.
This is the battle.
And I love President Trump.
Look, you know, President Trump endorsed Lindsey Graham, but he knows he's made a lot of miscues on personnel, and we've all suffered because of that.
But look, President Trump's very popular down here, but Lindsay is not.
He's booed in his own hometown.
And this is about standing up to end this humiliation, liberating this Senate seat for the people of South Carolina.
Yeah, you can go to our website, paaldans.com, sign up there, learn about my next.
I'm going to continue to push.
Our platform here, bringing a 21st century agricultural economy to South Carolina, getting justice for the opioid crisis, and really bringing tech back into the middle school shop class and making our next generation ready to live the American dream, getting the Chinese off the farmland.
Go to Dan's for Senate on X, give us a follow, and find me on the campaign trail.
I'll be there, you know, appearing when Mark can't.
But really, all patriots need to put their shoulder to the wheel on this one.
I stood up for this.
I've just dedicated the last nine months.
And a big, we just had our fifth baby here.
So, this is important.
I have a stake in the future.
Lindsey Graham's a childless warmonger, and we have to stop this.
And we have every chance to do it.
Mark Lynch will be your next U.S. Senator if we all make it happen.
Paul Danz, one of the chief architects of Project 2025 that has done so much, particularly in the first year of this.
Ben, we got a lot to go through.
I want to start with Lindsey Graham in the war.
And you've been in England, you're back in Rome.
We're going to get to all this stuff with the Pope all in a second.
But just your general assessment.
Victor Orban, really a landslide on Sunday.
Your thoughts on all of it?
How's the war playing out?
We now know that the NATO allies have told us categorically, upon further review, they're not going to pitch in at all with our naval blockade.
And you've got Orban, who was kind of the last man standing against the EU and particularly kept Hungary from being the Islamification that's happened so many other places.
In fact, I think the Netherlands, I think William of Orange's.
Descendant from the Netherlands is going to be at the White House tonight or even right now for some sort of presentation.
And they've done more than anybody to look the other way as Geert Wilderss has tried to stop the Islamification of the Netherlands.
Well, Steve, let me just pick up from Paul Dan's pulling out, withdrawing his nomination.
You'll notice what he said there that really he withdrew his nomination for the same reason that he threw his name into the ring.
Which is because he wanted to stop Lindsey Graham.
And I think that's absolutely magnificent.
And that's the heart, the moral heart of the decency which is in the MAGA movement.
And I think you'll agree with me, Steve, that all the true luminaries in this movement are movement guys.
They're in it because they believe in the ideals of the movement.
And I wish, you know, I think the movement would be stronger if some of President Trump's endorsements.
We were of that caliber.
Sadly, they're not.
I think a lot of the people are using his good nature, certainly his name and his reputation, to get ahead in politics.
And they're not movement guys, Steve.
They're in it for themselves.
So I just want to add that point.
And as you recited the litany of all the things that is most offensive about Lindsey Graham, I don't know if you said it and I missed it, but his dismissal of the honored dead, the heroic dead at Iwo Jima, was it my memory?
Did I just imagine he had a key?
He dismissed them with a flick of his hand as he said, Well, you know, we did it before, we can do it again.
Zero appreciation whatsoever of the cost.
No, that man is unacceptable, I think, to be a precinct captain, let alone a United States senator.
Okay, so moving on then, let's talk about Hungary.
Because there's a relationship between the movement in Hungary and the movement in Iran.
So, Hungary, well, I think the latest statistics as they're coming in are that Peter Magyar, the new president of Hungary, the guy who was a disciple of Viktor Orban two years ago, left Fidesz, started his new party.
Now, got, I think, 138 deputies out of 199 in the Hungarian parliament.
That's like 70%.
That is a huge number.
I'm going to go out here, Steve, and give you.
An analysis that I haven't seen anywhere, not in the pro Orban or the anti Orban camp.
And it's this it's not a defeat that he lost this election, not even with the landslide against him that he did.
I think it was somewhat inevitable.
16 years straight.
Don't forget, he served another time, another term back in the 90s, but he's just concluded 16 years straight in office.
That is, in electoral terms, gravity defying.
And I don't like, and I'm not going to add to the narrative that this is that this.
Defeat is a rejection of the Orban agenda.
I don't think it is.
I think Peter Magyar quite intelligently, quite cleverly pitched his campaign to be as much like Viktor Orban as possible, apart from a couple of exceptions, important exceptions, notably the relationship with the European Union.
And that is because Magyar did not want to scare the horses.
He realized how well Viktor Orban had done to cement.
Though his values in the Hungarian people, in some sense, don't forget Magyar is of the center right.
As I said, he was a disciple of Matilde a couple of years ago.
It's very much, I think, a continuation of, in important regards, a continuation of the Orban agenda just under new leadership.
And I think that's what the Hungarian people.
What I mean to say is, after 16 years straight, continuous in elected office, you might expect the pendulum to have swung in totally the opposite direction towards the left.
And that's not what has happened.
So, here on the warm up, I definitely would like to say against the mainstream media's narrative here. that be careful when people are suggesting that this has been catastrophic for Viktor Orban.
I think it was almost impossible, frankly, for him to run that election.
Certain things you can pick up and say, well, you know, there were elements, accusations of corruption that hadn't been handled well, and I think that's a reasonable criticism to make.
But as far as the agenda is concerned, I don't think that was a full-throated rejection of it, not at all, Steve.
But when you say that his was more of an embrace of the EU's agenda and getting right, I mean, doesn't that cut to the heart?
The reason, the original reason there was this break is that Orban said, hey, look, under no circumstances are I letting them in here.
I'm not letting these migrants pass through here.
I'm not taking guys from the Ukraine.
That I stand athwart the EU's globalization and homogenization of Europe.
We're Hungary.
We're going to have Hungarian culture.
And so to say that.
The wink and the nod, you know, and for the voters, he's talking about domestic issues and Orban's too focused on international.
He's too close to Trump and these people on the right.
Aren't we going to see the manifestation of this wink and the nod come with now, you're going to see, you know, playing ball with Brussels, particularly on immigration, because this is the thing that the whole issue, everything revolves around.
And this is why you're seeing a revolt right now in Ireland on the other side of the EU, sir.
Well, look, in addition to the litany, you can also add some other points as well.
You can add, I mean, I think you mentioned the migration and Ukraine.
You can also add to that LGBT and an attempt to straighten out judicial activism amongst the Hungarian magistracy.
Yes, so there are issues there.
But I would come back to the point what Hungarians thought they were electing or what they're going to be given might not necessarily be the same thing.
I don't think they are the same thing.
I don't think the vote was a rejection of Viktor Orban's 16 years.
You're going to.
If we're now talking about the benefit of hindsight, perhaps one might gently suggest that the last term might have been an opportunity for.
Victor Orban to anoint a successor, anoint an heir, and step back gracefully or at least provisionally to let some fresh faces and flesh and blood come in.
And then he could have shuffled his succession and himself and been a protagonist in that rather than having that done for him.
But I think the facts speak for themselves.
In order to put a close to this 16 years, they needed to get someone from Victor Orban's movement as the most credible candidate.
And I'll underline that because I think it's important.
It is also important, as you say, the European Union's ever present shadow in the background.
Let me put it like that.
They've effectively bribed the Hungarian electorate with their own money by releasing now, or announced that they're going to release, the $35 billion worth of funds that Hungarians, of course, were paying for themselves by the country's disbursement of funds to Brussels, and that had been blocked.
For purely spiteful reasons, because as you say, with regards to Ukraine primarily, but also the invasion and also the LGBT agenda, Viktor Orban wasn't playing game.
So, in order to destabilize the Hungarian government, Brussels then basically, quite illegally, in my view, withheld the handing back of Hungary's own money back to the Hungarian people.
And that 35 billion euros is.
Is a significant sum and Hungarians wanted that money back.
You know, it might have been if we're playing the.
If we're now analyzing this with the benefit of hindsight, I would suggest it would have been more useful for the administration to have helped Hungary in that fight rather than just sending over Vice President Vance in the dying days of the Hungarian electoral campaign.
There's.
I don't really think that Viktor Orban had done very much wrong.
As I say, I think it was more of a case of the inability to defeat electoral laws of gravity than anything else.
But I do think, if we're looking at this critically, the US administration could have done a lot more over a longer time under President Trump's leadership to give visible and actual support.
America is a very important country, as we all know, the most powerful.
But given the military force, but given this war, what happened over the last couple of months, particularly as a lot of these, you know, momentum, and so much of this is where people define what they want to do in the last couple of months before actual election.
It made, you know, President Trump and some of the moves.
Also, Orban did something I haven't seen, but I say he had an outright embrace of Netanyahu, not just Israel.
But the Netanyahu government, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Netanyahu's son, and people know we're not fans of Netanyahu, or the sons, didn't the son go and campaign with Orban in Hungary?
But the European relationship with Israel is quite different.
I think the antagonisms are very different in the European context than they are in the American political context.
And I think Viktor Orban saw that as a zero cost way of signaling that he's not anti Semitic, which of course is the go to slur to anyone on the far right.
And I think that was probably more.
Involved with his mental calculations, his electoral arithmetic and strategizing, because as we all know, a strong way, though I share your concerns on this entirely, I wouldn't have had anyone from the Netanyahu family on the campaign, and I wouldn't have tied my country so closely to Israel either.
But I do understand why Viktor Orban might have done that, because the accusation of being anti Semitic is literally one that has been made constantly in his direction.
Yeah, I mean, funny, the protests in Ireland right now to do with the actual primary cause of this is the exorbitant fuel costs.
That's affecting everyone.
It's affecting people at the pump.
It's affecting the agricultural industry.
The farmers are.
Have had for the last couple of years, also because Ireland is a full member of the EU, the farmers have had the full brunt of the European Union's attempts to squash domestic farming industry in order to open the market to South, to Latin America.
I'll say this this is a consequence of what is good, you know, this is the Europeans bearing the brunt right now of the destabilization.
In the Strait of Hormuz and the Middle East generally.
There's no doubt about that.
It's not like that here in Italy yet because the government's cutting fuel duty, tax duty on petrol.
So Italians aren't particularly feeling it at the pump as much as the Irish.
But what we're seeing in Ireland, these protests expect them to grow if the petrol doesn't come back online.
In fact, we've got Kevin Pasovic, who is actually there in Ireland, and we're going to be doing live reporting as soon as we get.
Kevin today went out and was meeting many of the contacts we have in Ireland to put this in context, and he's going to be up on the show tomorrow morning on the War Room and throughout the week or longer, however long this revolt takes.
Can you hang on for one second?
We're going to take a short commercial break, Ben, and I want to get into the 60 minutes interview last night with three beauties.
Cardinals from the Catholic Church.
And also, this President Trump is into it with Prevost.
As you remember, I was the one that said that Prevost was going to be selected as Pope before the conclave actually started on Piers Morgan.
I guess at the time it's on YouTube, but it's a big show in Britain of what was going to happen because he was the perfect solution for the deep state of the Vatican.
Variantly anti Trump, variantly anti MAGA, variantly anti American, but could seduce all the donors to come and give money.
And of course, a lot of the folks who should know better kind of fell into the trap of Prevost and how fantastic it was going to be.
That was a rude awakening here over the last month or two.
I think a lot of people are now on alert.
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Ben Harnwell from Rome next.
I do think one of the dark horses, and I think unfortunately he's one of the most progressive, is Cardinal Prevost.
I don't think he's getting enough play.
He is certainly on the short list as being, and I think it's pretty shocking given the contempt.
They hold the American church.
The American church gives so much money, they're afraid it has too much power.
So they've never really wanted to have an American pope.
But my understanding is that Prevost is one of the ones closest to Francis ideologically.
He's also had tremendous experience in Latin America.
And so he's one of the ones on the shortlist.
I'm a big believer that Cardinal Seurat from Africa would be a perfect selection right now for this moment in the church.
But I will tell everybody this is anybody's game right now between Parallel.
One of the traditionalists.
You have no earthly idea how this is going to turn out.
That's why I think this time, this run up is so important.
It's kind of interesting that it's ironic.
It's going to take place.
It's going to kick off, I think, on either the day of or the day before the 80th anniversary of victory in Europe.
So it's very symbolic of what's coming together here in the first place.
So, Prevost, and the reason, Ben, you and I talked about it that we had fingered Prevost is they need the American church, and particularly the American donors, to keep writing big checks.
That was the end of Francis's day.
That got to be an issue.
They needed to mollify them by saying, hey, we got an American.
He's a Chicago White Sox fan.
He's actually, I believe, even more radical than Francis, but he was groomed by Francis and these guys, and they knew exactly what they were getting.
And it's now come out, and particularly because he wore the right vestments.
I mean, it was.
Pretty shocking to me to see, particularly, many of our colleagues and allies on the trad Catholic right kind of fall into the oh, this guy's gonna be terrific because he's wearing the right vestments, right?
He's keeping his hands in the right positions, which is that's just all performative.
He started in January with a speech criticizing U.S. military action in Venezuela.
After that, the Vatican's ambassador in the U.S. Was called to the Pentagon for a meeting, which two church officials described to 60 Minutes as unpleasant and contentious.
Since our visit, the Pope's tone has sharpened.
This past week, he issued a rare condemnation of President Trump's threat to destroy Iranian civilization.
The Pope called it, truly unacceptable.
He also took the unusual step of issuing a call to action.
The Holy Father usually avoids calling out President Trump by name or any member of his administration.
But in a Palm Sunday homily, he appeared to reference the religious language Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who is Christian but not Catholic, often uses to frame the war.
The first thing I would say on this is to pick up something you just said in your opening question on this.
Robert Prevost, by birth, is American, born in Chicago.
There's no doubt about that.
But I do push back when I hear people saying, or at least I question the degree you can consider Pope Leo as being an American pope.
His formation is entirely in Latin America, Peru, if I don't remember incorrectly.
And just look at what he's doing, Steve, on the 4th of July when your nation celebrates its 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.
He's going to Lampedusa, which is the small island off the southwest peninsula, coast of the peninsula of Italy, which has been overrun.
Here in Italy, it is the emblem, the totem of all that is wrong with the invasion and successive Italian governments, their inability to deal with that.
Pope Francis went there on his first visit as Pope.
And now Pope Leo's going there as well.
And that's where he's going on the 4th of July.
I don't, I repeat, I doubt, I push back when people suggest he's the first American Pope because there's literally nothing in anything that he ever thinks or said says that only American would ever say.
Nothing at all.
And now he's pushing back on the administration, descending into politics.
And this brings us, Steve, on to the Trump social.
Post of President Trump because this is now direct, basically head of state versus head of state.
Yeah, he calls the president, the president calls the Pope weak, says he has weak policies to crime via the immigration, and he's absolutely correct on that.
I wouldn't really have had that much to say about that, by the way, but you mentioned it, because it's dominating social media over the last 12 or so hours, the meme where it is attributed to President Trump that he's imitating himself to our Lord and Savior.
If you look at that meme, now you can say whether it was prudent or advised or not, there's literally no Christian iconography.
In that image, whatsoever, none, nothing in that image that likens President Trump to anything recognizably to our Lord and Savior.
But I let that pass.
I know, I know, uh, I say that because what I found most distasteful, more than the meme itself, were so called MAGA social influencers lining up to criticize President Trump over that issue, which I wouldn't have done, even though I say I wouldn't have put the um.
And he did eventually take it down, took it down in the early, I guess, right after noon today.
But let's go back to the confrontation between, because people are so aghast about it.
When I was running Breitbart, remember, Francis came to, I think, right outside of El Paso, Texas, on the Mexican side, and had a mass there and had an event.
And the entire event was political.
It was all to shift, to turn out Democrat votes against President Trump.
At the time, Francis was one of the biggest voices about mass migrant invasions.
And he went after President Trump for even having the modicum of we got to build a wall and we got to protect the sovereignty of our own country.
This is rolled through to Prevost because Prevost is this a guy that was identified by Francis very early on.
And you're 100% correct.
He was born in Chicago and he wears a Chicago White Sox ball cap.
Doesn't mean he's American.
I mean, he's born in America, so he's a U.S. citizen.
But his formation took place in the most radical part of the Catholic Church at the time, which is this liberation theology in Latin America, of which the Pope, although he did try to tone down when he was down there some of the more radical elements of it, is very anti American and essentially anti West.
That's why Prevost was selected specifically for this.
We called it at the time before the conclave that this was going to happen.
We talked about it all the time because he's the perfect.
A guy to go up against President Trump eventually, which we know he's done.
And this is just the top of the first inning on this because the president's going to give as good as he gets on this one, Ben.
Yeah, he was picked, as you're saying, to get the money from, I don't want to say gullible American donors, but to get the money in from the gullible American donors, Catholics.
No, it's true.
It's true.
That was point one on the objective.
And that was facilitated again, as you were saying in your introduction, by the craven prostration of Trad Inc. saying, yeah, this is our guy.
Look, he wears the mozzetta.
This is our guy.
Look how he holds his hands.
This is clearly.
Clearly, the second coming of Pope Pius X.
And that's it.
So it's trading, no, trading, a little bit of vestment, showing a little bit of ankle on the vestment score, getting the money in from pious,
but perhaps not necessarily well informed Catholic benefactors and businessmen because the Catholic Church, the Vatican, is, illiquid, thanks in part to Pope Francis' repeated beatings on American philanthropists.
They blocked the money.
That's the big non story that nobody ever talks about publicly.
And then in that position, he uses that position as being the successor to St. Peter.
And one would have hoped the primary defensor of Christendom, of Christian civilization, Of the kingdom of God, not to promote any of those things, but to promote secular, godless globalism in opposition to those Catholics that still want to be Catholic.
And ironically, into that vacuum has stepped forward President Trump, who is now the biggest defender of Christendom, even as someone I don't think he ever claims to be a particularly strong believer or even a believer.
At all, but he's definitely.
If it weren't for President Trump in the White House right now, you could see what the Vatican and the UN and the EU are capable of doing.
He's the only figure, for all his faults, he's the only figure capable of stopping those three institutions.
Your Wednesday show and Friday show become hits in and of their own because of one, your piercing intellect, but also you get great guests and you take on amazing topics.
I am going to, if I can do it, I want to hold the 60 minutes piece because I want to make sure that the audience gets a full benefit of this, and particularly the 60 minute interview with the Cardinals, who, once again, because of the way the Catholic Church has been run and managed and theology has come through.
The pews now with trad Catholics, you're starting to see it fill back up, particularly with these younger generations.
And it's been amazing to absolutely see.
And they're coming more to the traditional rendering of the faith in the churches that are more conservative or Latin mass.
Whereas the traditional, the corporate Catholic church is so progressive and so open, you don't know if you're going to a Protestant ceremony or just you're there for a hoot nanny, right?
And they're dropping, they have no vocations.
They have all these foreign priests.
You know, there's still the scourge of all this issue with the issue about pedophilia, right?
And of course, the economic consequences of that.
The church has had to, you say it's illiquid, they've had to monetize so many of these magnificent assets they've had that were built on the shoulders of the little parishioners, you know, given $5 a week or $1 a week in their collection plate and being part of the church to help build it.
Now you have this progressive church, and I said about.
Cardinal Dolan, when I was in the White House, I think I just loved the White House.
They're all for open borders and they're for mass migration because if they didn't have the Hispanic community and the Hispanic community's faith is strong and it's really magnificent, but they didn't have the illegal alien invasion here in the country, they wouldn't have churches that were full.
It's part of their business model.
This is why Catholic Charities, you know, how many times in this show were we down the border with Ben Burkwam?
And Oscar Blue Ramirez talking about Catholic charities and Lutheran charities.
And I think it was a Jewish group or two down there that were part of these NGOs that were actually an integral part of the invasion of assisting in exacerbating the invasion of the country.
And then we got these cardinals.
So I want to do that tomorrow if we can, if you're available for the six o'clock hour to actually go through and break down because this is the institutional Catholic church.
These are the people that actually have control.
Of the process, they have control of the institution, they have control of the money, right?
And the control of it.
And this is what people are dealing with.
But I want to comment, if you can, for a couple of minutes before we go the great disappointment you and I had because it was so obvious on the face of it.
And if you're fighting for your church, if you're fighting for your faith, and you're fighting for your country, you can't just be suckered in that easy.
It was so obvious why Prevost was predicted.
This is why I brought him up in all these interviews beforehand.
It was obvious what they were looking for an acolyte of Francis formed with the radical liberation theology of Latin America and these radical Jesuits, which is really this kind of Marxist interpretation of the Gospels, which is totally incorrect because Marxism at its core is atheistic.
That was infiltration to the church, and to put kind of a happy face on an American accent.
Oh, he's got a Chicago White Sox ball cap.
Isn't he great?
To basically sucker in the big donors of the Catholic Church, American donors who want some blessing on their marriage or want some, you know, to wear a big hat with a feather in it at these, to be a Knight of Malta or whatever they do in these organizations, right?
So it was obvious.
And yet, Trad Inc., who should know better and has to know better, All fell in line.
I would sit there and go, What am I missing here?
What are these guys glazing Prevost when he's going to be worse than Francis because he is the Manchurian candidate?
Well, firstly, to go back, thank you for your kind words about our Wednesday show.
It is very watchable, folks.
But it's not due to me, it is due to the quality of the guests and their insights, of which I will name and give special honor in dispatches.
To Frank Walker from Canon 212, because basically it was Canon 212 and the War Room back in the day that were the only voices within Trad Dump trying to say, Look, that's not really the Trad Inc. narrative isn't the correct one here.
Give us a listen because we have some things to say on this.
And I think within the fullness of time, one year on, we have absolutely been found to be right on the money on that.
And this is the mission of the show that we do on Wednesday, Steve.
And it comes back to this.
It's the thing that we say again and again and again.
It's the reason why we do the show.
It's because fundamentally we want to be the platform for the Catholic faithful in taking the running of their church out of the hands of these godless Marxist pro invasion atheists that are running our beautiful church, our beloved church, into the ground.
And we want to set the bark of Peter back on a true course.
And that's why we do this show.
We want to be the platform for doing that.
You see a lot of people talking about the laity having a greater voice in the running of the church.
Most of it is being pushed by the liberals and liberal factions amongst the bishops because they want to use that veneer of the laity in order to undermine the Catholic faith.
There is no voice outside of the war room that is arguing for the total running of the church in the hands of the faithful.
It goes against some of Trad Inc.'s more medieval formations of, yes, my lord, to the bishop, kiss the hand, whatever you say, my lord.
That's the reason why the church has been run into the ground.
You saw in the clip on CBS, I'll hand back on this point because I know time is coming to the end of the show, but you saw the CBS clip on the 60 Minutes of exactly this issue in the Catholic community.
Church of how the bishops are there trying to talk about the best way forward.
The best way forward is with us, the believing laity, the believing faithful.
It's these people who've run the church into the ground, Steve.