Episode 5291: Talks For Peace Begin In Islamabad; Finding A Permanent Solution For Diego Garcia
Vice President JD Vance and Jared Kushner lead peace talks in Islamabad as the U.S. assesses degraded Iranian infrastructure following strikes, while intelligence suggests China maneuvers MANPADS through third parties and Russia provides critical support. The host critiques Netanyahu's diplomatic fallout and warns of NATO's inability to secure the Strait of Hormuz alone, contrasting this with President Trump's decision to retain Diego Garcia against Mauritius. Cleo Pascal argues the Middle East is a sideshow compared to securing the Pacific against China, echoing Theodore Roosevelt's vision, while Texas patriots successfully block Islamist indoctrination in social studies standards. Ultimately, the episode asserts that true American greatness requires prioritizing hemispheric defense over globalist entanglements. [Automatically generated summary]
Nothing could be more confusing than looking at JD Vance, you know, writing a book about how the middle class and the working people were getting screwed over and then getting in power and not caring about them at all, calling Trump America's Hitler and then being his sidekick, you know, all of this.
And to stand, I'm so glad you raised that point, to stand next to Orban, who represents everything that we tell our children never to be, you know, a dictator who.
takes from the people who doesn't care about human rights.
So, you know, all this aside, this is a really important moment for peace in the world.
And frankly, I think it's best for Israel if this fighting stops and that all of Iran's proxies and all the things they tell them to do to Israel, all that is brought to a table.
And we can figure this out because I will tell you, I am so sad. at what's happening to the reputation of Israel because of Netanyahu, in my opinion, in this great country of ours.
I have never seen it.
I served for so many years, and I always knew how critical it is to keep the American people behind Israel.
The last point I'd make, in all the years that I spent in Washington and several, many trips to the Middle East, I met with all the leaders.
I never did meet with Bibi.
That's a whole other funny story, but I met with most of them.
And they always said a couple of things.
Number one, Senator, we will always be a democracy and we will always care about human rights.
And we will always need America and we will be America's strongest ally.
But America will never have to fight our battles.
And, you know, I just see BB changing the whole scenario here.
And I worry so much about it.
And with all my disagreements with JD Vance, I hope he succeeds.
According to sources familiar with recent U.S. intelligence assessments, China is preparing to send a shipment of weapons to Iran despite the ongoing fragile ceasefire, which it helped to broker.
China says that these claims are untrue and that they have never provided any weapons to any country that's party to this current conflict.
Two sources say that the weapons in China, that the weapons that China is sending include shoulder fired anti-air missile systems.
And these types of weapons pose a major threat to low flying aircraft.
I'm not Prepared to say that it couldn't be done militarily.
But to do it and to sustain an opening, a safe opening of the strait, would require months and months of hard work by not just the United States military, but frankly, militaries in the region and hopefully even militaries who aren't in the region, such as our European allies.
I mean, just the convoys alone, Jen, I did that mission back in 88.
That's time intensive, ship intensive.
We had 500 plus ships back then.
We have only 300 or so now.
We would need help to do it.
And the convoys are slow, and you've got to be constantly on your toes going through that narrow strait.
But also, you need eyes overhead.
You're going to need constant intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance assets flying over the strait so you can see with an unblinking eye everything that's moving in that water 24 7.
And you might even have to take militarily through land forces some of those islands on both sides of the strait that the Iranians have been able to use to launch attacks from.
It's a huge undertaking.
Again, not impossible militarily.
But huge, and there's just really no way the United States could do it on its own for any sustained period of time.
Breaking this evening now, the UK is apparently preparing a new version of a major plan to get the whole nation.
From the military and the police to hospitals and industry, ready for a transition to war.
That's what the head of the armed forces told Sky News.
Well, just beg the question, doesn't it?
Whose side would all those people be on?
You can transition to war all you like, but we obviously have a load of people in this country that I think will just be on the side of whatever enemy it is that we happen to be fighting.
And if that wasn't enough, the Telegraph are also reporting tonight that the Russian shadow fleet crews will be able to claim asylum in Britain if we seize their ships because, well, yeah, they just can't.
That's the fear.
Apparently.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
I'm not sure how much more of this we can really take, can't we?
U.S. intelligence uncovered by the DC Bureau indicates that China is preparing air defense shipments to Iran, possibly within weeks.
This is according to sources familiar with the intelligence.
The systems are these shoulder fired anti air missiles known as MANPADS.
That's what the sources are saying.
And they're designed to target, as you said, low flying aircraft, including U.S. jets.
Similar weapons likely used to shoot down that F 15 last week, according to President Trump.
Iran claimed at the time that it used a New air defense system.
That was according to a statement from Iranian state media.
Shipments might be routed, these sources are saying, through third countries to hide their origin.
China obviously wanting to distance itself, certainly from any visible indication of providing weapons to Iran, considering that it has just been working the phones in recent days, including 26 calls from its foreign minister Wang Yi to regional allies and friends to try to defuse this situation.
President Trump saying that Iran actually helped bring about this ceasefire.
And of course, we are now. hours away from these crucial talks that will be happening in Pakistan.
This would mark a major escalation in China's support for Iran, sources say, if indeed this intelligence is correct, going well beyond the existing sales of dual-use technology that China has been providing to Iran throughout this.
But we know that China has incentives to try to assist Iran in ways that does not harm its standing with the global community.
Obviously, China is heavily reliant on Iranian oil by some measures, They're purchasing 80 to 90 percent of the oil going through the Strait of Hormuz, up more than a million barrels a day.
So, trying to support Iran while maintaining deniability, these sources that my colleagues in Washington have spoken to say, could be really crucial here.
Iran might be using the ceasefire to replenish their weapons.
Now, I want to read for you because we do have a statement from the Chinese embassy in Washington, and I'm going to read it to you in full what we've published.
China has never provided weapons to any party to the conflict.
The information in question is untrue.
Goes on to say, as a responsible major country, China consistently fulfills its international obligations.
We urge the U.S. side to refrain from making baseless allegations, maliciously drawing connections, and engaging in sensationalism.
We hope that relevant parties will do more to help deescalate tensions.
Obviously, we know, Polo, that Russia has been providing much more significant military support than dual-use technology, even going so far as to provide Iran with intelligence of targets that they could strike across the Middle East.
If this is true, if what my Washington colleagues have reported from their sources is correct, certainly it would seem that the help coming from China is much, much more than was at least originally believed.
But again, a very firm denial of this reporting from the Chinese embassy in Washington.
When you see what they're doing when it comes to Lebanon, where on this 10 point plan, don't bomb Lebanon was on there, the administration seemed to be okay with it.
They're backing away from it now.
But Israel is going, they're not at the negotiating table, but they're absolutely.
Maybe the largest player when it comes to what happens next, especially when it comes to Lebanon.
We have these bilateral talks going on in Pakistan, and another key player in this war, in fact, the only real ally right now that the United States has, is not going to be present and wasn't present when the ceasefire was agreed to, which led to the confusion over Lebanon.
Israel is a sovereign state.
They're looking at this situation from their lens and from their threats, the threats to their people, and they're going to act.
I think we need to expect that Prime Minister Netanyahu and the Israelis are going to act in their own self interest here, no matter what happens.
In Islamabad.
They view, and they live in a tough neighborhood, they view Iran as an existential threat, and certainly the proxies.
And one of the things that the Israelis have been trying to do since before the war started, and certainly over the last 40 days, is break up the proxy network that Iran has available to them, because those proxies represent a very real and tangible threat to the Israeli people.
Hezbollah firing rockets out of the north, Hamas still exists, and of course the Houthis can fire stuff from the south.
Israel has been very focused on the proxies more than the United States has been.
The other thing the Israelis are going to be watching very, very closely is what happens to that enriched uranium and what is Iran allowed to do with respect to enriched uranium going forward.
That's kind of been off the table as we all talk about the Strait, but to the Israelis, that too represents an existential threat.
So there's no guarantee that whatever is agreed to in Pakistan is going to be agreed to in Tel Aviv.
And we'll have to watch and see exactly how the Israelis respond as these talks continue.
It's Saturday, 11 April in the year of our Lord 2026.
Our weekend coverage today, obviously, we're going to talk about the talks.
We're trying to find out if they've actually started because there are so many rumors going around, so many different news stories breaking.
We're trying to cut through the fog of war here, the fog of negotiations to see what's real and what's not, understanding that may not have even started because there may be a misunderstanding of what's going on in Lebanon and what's the agreement of Israel already.
To be at least party to this, not a direct negotiation, but that the ceasefire in Lebanon has to take hold.
Also, all types of rumors about the Chinese Communist Party were absolutely very essential to get us where they are today.
There may actually be a delegation in Islamabad, which reinforces the war room's position is that the deal, any deal that has any meaning at all, will be cut between the President of the United States and Xi, President Xi, in a room.
In Beijing, sometime during the state visit of President Trump in mid May.
You just heard right there, Admiral Kirby on two things.
Number one said, hey, it doesn't make whatever's agreed to in Islamabad and agreed to that Washington wants to do, it doesn't mean it's going to be agreed to in Tel Aviv.
This is the whole situation with having an ally that's got its own strategic plan.
Now, having your own strategic plan is fine, but if it doesn't comport to your senior partner, Then it's not great.
And so this is all going to be worked out in the next day or two.
Also, Admiral Kirby giving, I think, an assessment from his perspective, particularly given the small size of the Navy, of what actually would have to do to convoy duty, the type of convoy duty that happened in the tanker wars in 86, 87, and 88.
He said it would take months of planning.
We really don't have the resources to do it.
You'd have to have the World Navy, you'd have to have French, Italian, NATO would really have to step up, which seems to be.
They have no intention of doing because they don't have the resources.
They don't have the Navy either.
Although there is a report on one of these tracking services that a Navy destroyer, DDG 112, is the USS Michael Murphy, a guided missile destroyer, is actually transiting the Strait of Hormuz even as we speak.
So we'll get more into this.
We've got a packed show where we're going to do today both the geopolitics and the negotiation and national security of what's happening not just in the Middle East.
But also with the Chinese Communist Party.
But also, we're going to look inside the wire, which we think is not getting enough focus the war inside the United States for the security of the United States and to keep this republic going.
And we're going to go from Texas to Florida to many other locations and discuss all of this.
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So, we're going to go from Iran and Islamabad, the Persian Gulf to the Indian Ocean, Deir Garcia, and then talk about the Chinese Communist Party as we tee up for this audience to keep you guys ahead of the curve.
David Patrick Karakos joins us now, special correspondent for the Daily Mail.
David, thank you so much for joining us.
You are one of the top, I would say, Iran experts in the world.
The media is making a huge deal that since 1979, since the Shah of Iran got booted, And with it, the United States and they took over our embassy.
That this is the first time in 47 years there's ever been high level face to face between, I think they've got a 12 or 14 man team with Vice President Vance and Jared and Steve Witkoff.
We've been making the thesis here that one of the issues around this negotiation is forget what reality is.
The reality that the regime believes is that.
Not only are they winning this war, they think right now, to date, they've won it and they think they have the upper hand in these negotiations.
Can you walk us through your understanding of the mindset of this regime and where we are right now as we kick off these negotiations in Islamabad, sir?
Look, Steve, I think that is a very astute point that you've made.
They think that they've won, that they're winning.
I mean, I was looking at photos of those regime stooges walking in to the Islamabad negotiations.
It's like a low grade reservoir dogs, all of them in their black suits strutting around.
Look, what is happening right now is, you know, I mean, Iran is the beneficiary of what I have come to term what I call the despot dividend, right?
What does this mean?
It means when democracies go to war with dictatorships, dictatorships always have a couple of advantages.
One of them is informational, okay?
Look, one thing we do know that the Americans and the Israelis have pounded Iran like it's never been seen before.
And yet, because they're a dictatorship, they've cut all of the internet.
There is an informational imbalance here, Steve, which is Iran is dark.
On one side, all we hear are crowing, boasting Iranian leaders, those of them that are still alive.
And on the other, the Iranians watch everybody in the West and the wealth hammering Donald Trump, hammering Benjamin Netanyahu, and it emboldens the Iranians.
And that's the way it is, because obviously we don't want to cut our meter off, do we?
So what has happened is that every day the Iranians have survived, the discourse has moved towards them and it has emboldened them.
And this is where we are with the talks right now.
But I would say one thing, and it's one thing I think you've said, Steve.
One thing your viewers know, there is a long way to go here.
Let's see how this plays out.
Are the Iranians really in a position five, six, seven months from now to oppress their own people when half of their leadership is gone, when so much of their military infrastructure is wrong?
I don't know, but let's see.
This will take time.
The effects of this war.
And look, the Iranians may survive.
I'm not saying that they've lost.
What I'm saying is it's very early to say that they've won, especially you're dealing with the United States.
And especially as you also say, Steve, the big relationship here is between the United States and China.
Talk to us about one of the strategies of the regime, the military of the Revolutionary Guard, is understanding that Israel and the United States one day were going to come for them and a decapitation was to disperse command and control, although it's been shattered to 31 military districts.
The center of gravity of this battle shifted to the Persian Gulf and the Hormuz.
Did they even, there's a group in Islamabad right now, did they actually have, you think, operational control of that group that's down on Hormuz that's a combination of Bedouins and Persians that are essentially.
Pirates that run those islands and run those cliffs outside Hormuz?
Do they actually have the ability to deliver a deal?
David, you had John Kerry, you had Hillary Clinton, you had Barack Obama, you had President Trump's negotiating team, you had the deal he cut.
You've had then coming into President Trump's second term.
The way the Persians negotiate, I think it's called market talk.
It's basically kind of string you along because they've been doing this for thousands of years.
These people are Persians.
They fought Greece, they fought the Romans, they acquiesced to the British, and now they're fighting the West as personified by the United States of America and Israel.
But they got this concept, I think it's called market talk or market negotiations, where it just takes forever.
It's very bureaucratic.
They negotiate in these small points that take forever.
Is that what we're going to see in Islamabad?
I mean, what's the process that the Persians look at when they have to face the West in a negotiation?
Look, my first book was on Iran's nuclear program.
So I spent about 10 years, Steve, analyzing Iranian nuclear negotiations.
And, you know, I used to go and see in Vienna, Steve, a man called Ali Ashgar Sultanate.
He was Iran's ambassador to the International Atomic Energy Agency.
He was a lovely, charming man, would give me tea, would ask about my family, and then proceed to lie to me for the entire hour of our interview.
Very charming, never got a single word of truth out of him.
It's the same principle.
They'll be very charming.
And another thing, every time you meet with Iranian diplomats, Steve, you have to spend half an hour, first 15 minutes of boasting, where they tell you how they're an ancient civilization and that they defeated the Persians and so on.
Then there's another 15 minutes of them listing all their grievances against how the West has done this to them and that to them and how they've never started a war.
Uh, in God knows how many hundreds of years.
And you go on and on and on.
And they will quibble and haggle over minutia.
And let's not forget, this is all now being done under the auspices of the Pakistanis, which Steve, I personally think is like having an arsonist oversee a meeting of fire safety regulations.
And I realize President Trump's got a very strong relationship with the field marshal of the Pakistani army.
That being said, if you had to pick in the world a worse group to be as mediators, it would be the Pakistanis.
If nothing more, then they're totally bought and paid for by the one belt, one road of the Chinese Communist Party.
Give me your perspective of China's influence in this, the specter of the Chinese Communist Party that hovers over this entire meeting in Islamabad, sir.
David, before we let you go, if you were in the room and having a cup of coffee with JD and Jared and Witkoff before they go in to start this, what would be your guidance to the Americans about what to expect, what to anticipate, and what to hopefully achieve in Islamabad?
Okay, we're going to go inside the wire into the United States of America and the great state of Texas here momentarily, but I got to get Cleo Pascal.
Who's one of our contributors?
And just although maybe not tall in height, a giant among men of the effort you've done.
Correct me if I'm wrong, Cleo, because of you sounding the gong and allowing us to wake up certain people in the government and getting President Trump very focused, as he has been over the last month or two.
I believe that the situation of just essentially giving away Degar Garcia, since it's such a major strategic, people realize how strategic it is.
Uh, is off the table now, kind of semi officially or close to officially, ma'am.
Yes, so this is a big win for the war room and the posse, and everybody who got involved in raising their voices and getting it through the wall and into the Oval Office.
President Trump, uh, saying no more, we are not going to let the UK give away this strategic, crucial base in the Indian Ocean to Mauritius, a country that's very close to China and that already was.
Complaining about things like the US possibly basing nuclear weapons there and things like that.
The importance of Diego Garcia became really clear in the lead up to the Iran war when the British wouldn't let the US use the base.
And so not only did the importance of the base come to the fore, but the whole questioning of the relationship with the UK, because the UK also wouldn't let the US use bases in the UK itself.
And When their base, the UK base in Cyprus, was hit by an Iranian drone, the UK didn't even have the capability to go and defend it.
The French had to go send a ship to sort of stand guard offshore.
So not only has the issue of Diego Garcia been sorted out for at least a short while now, but the whole question of looking at European allies and their possessions across the world and what their vacillation means, not just in Europe, but for strategic positioning elsewhere.
So, for example, France in places like New Caledonia has come to the fore.
So, when we have a chance to take a pause and take a breath, the next job is going to be, first of all, a permanent solution to Diego Garcia.
You were harping about Dave Garcia almost a year ago, the very beginning of the administration.
And people were very working on a number of different things, et cetera, et cetera.
And there are some people in the administration, the permanent bureaucracy, and we're going to get to that.
We're going to have an author of a book in the second hour about the Russia hoax that talks about the deep state.
There were deep staters that were fine with this.
And then we kept saying, you came on here and argued that, hey, you can't depend on a bunch of people.
The United States has to.
Kind of be in control of this because our strategic plan with India and against the Chinese Communist Party, everything from the Western Pacific, Dave Garcia is one of the linchpins in that.
Now, President Trump became aware of that as he focused on it.
So, what's going on here?
You're giving this away.
But what you did was actually foreshadow what's the issue in Hormuz.
We just had Admiral Kirby on in the cold open.
And Admiral Kirby said what I think is unfortunately reality given the size of our Navy and how we've let the Navy deteriorate.
Uh, over Biden and these Democrats, right, to be nowhere near what it was under President Reagan, is that we don't have the convoy capability, it's just not feasible.
And you have these Europeans that are not prepared to step up right now for the Strait of Hermos, which is absolutely essential.
This is what you brought up in Dia Garcia.
And certain yes, we have to get our allies to do more, but there's certain situations you're going to come down to where it's just going to rest on the United States' shoulders, and you have to plan for that and you have to prepare for that.
And what you can't do.
Is be asleep on the bridge.
And just like these, if we had let Diego Garcia go, it would be such an incredible nightmare legal nightmare, financial nightmare, strategic nightmare.
And you, because you raised your voice and President Trump heard it, and President Trump, as soon as he heard it, he says, We're not doing that.
We're going to give it away to these guys who are basically controlled by the Chinese Communist Party.
It's not going to happen.
That should be a lesson that we should use that template and take it to the Western Pacific and take it to the Three Island chain and Hormuz because it's the reality.
As long as we've got The backbone of U.S. security, and you can see this in hemispheric defense, is based upon a you know, President Trump is a what a Mahanian, right?
He believes in naval power, he believes in the importance of choke points.
He believes this is his whole he's not messing around in Greenland for his health, he understands Greenland's strategic necessities.
Same in the Arctic, the same with the Panama Canal, the same with Venezuela and Guyana in the Caribbean, in the Gulf of America.
And so, this is what's so important.
This victory.
Is not a small victory.
This is a massive victory because it speaks to larger issues, Cleo.
And if you thought I was annoying ranting on about Diego Garcia, wait until we get to the islands in the Pacific.
He is, President Trump is not just a Mahanian, he knows McKinley.
And McKinley was the president that, after the Spanish American War, said, we're going to need to keep Guam, at least in the Philippines, because otherwise we can't get across the Pacific.
Our trade isn't safe, and our Oregon and California coasts aren't safe.
He specifically mentioned Oregon and California not being safe if the Spanish, which was the The power then dominated the Western Pacific.
So, yes, we're back to an era of actually having to look at maps.
And we had a really good run.
I mean, talk about the West as exemplified by American power.
From 1961 to 1981, every American president had served in the Navy, and all of them except Carter had served in the Pacific during World War II.
So they knew what the Pacific was.
And then that was followed by Bush Sr., who had, of course, also fought in the Pacific as vice president, then president.
So, they set up an architecture in the center of the Pacific, in the Western Pacific, including the Compacts of Free Association with Palau, Federated States of Micronesia, Marshall Islands, the covenant with the Commonwealth of Northern Marianas, which allowed it to join the U.S., which created such a sense of security in the Central Pacific that we've forgotten the geography.
Their plan was so good and worked so well that it's just been left adrift.
Now you have a situation where in U.S. territory, the Commonwealth of Northern Marian Islands, Chinese can arrive without a visa.
They have The Chinese have realized how important this area is to us, how important this geography is to the Western architecture that underpins the whole first island chain, second island chain, and keeping the new threat off of Oregon and California and all the other coasts.
And they have been systematically trying to undermine it.
And the Eurasian, the key point of the Eurasian heartland was India.
So when you looked at, when they were talking about controlling the world and the rimland, he was talking about controlling, as you're talking about, sort of from the Volga to the Yangtze, that's kind of their Eurasian landmass.
But that was because they wanted to be in that.
Position or have control in that position to be able to get down to their and secure their empire in India.
So that's a whole different geography than America's geography.
Where it was manifest destiny, you go west, you go to the coast, and then you put in place your trade lines out to Asia, which is fundamentally maritime, which is why Mahan was American.
You know, the whole framework of our geopolitical study has been colonialized by a British geography, which has been.
Land based and based on colonies that they had, not on America developing as a completely different system and a completely different geography.
That was like, for example, George Washington in the farewell address talking about the U.S. being a detached and distant land.
He wasn't talking about Eurasia.
And then from there, it moved out west and then out through the Pacific.
So it is a core part of America's not only security, but mythology and also obviously economy.
Clear, we're going to have you on a lot more to talk about this.
Where do people go right now for this weekend?
This is why I keep saying the Middle East, as far as the geostrategic necessity and importance of the United States, the Middle East is a sideshow, and Israel is a sideshow to a sideshow, the beating heartland of America first, and our vital national security rests in the entire Western Hemisphere, hemispheric defense of President Trump, coupled.
With the Central Pacific.
We are a Pacific nation, manifest destiny.
The great folks that followed on from the revolutionary generation and from the populists under Andrew Jackson and the folks that got us through the Civil War understood that.
Secretary Hay, more than anybody with McKinley, Secretary Hay, who had been a 20 year old secretary, was the basically quasi speechwriter and note taker for Wait For It, Abraham Lincoln.
We not only went on the defense this week, we went on the offense and we kept all of the Islamic indoctrination that they were attempting to put into our classrooms out and we passed incredible social studies standards with a Texas in America first emphasis.
Well, you and the posse were certainly a big part of it, Steve, just bringing attention to this important issue.
And, you know, nobody even knew that this fight was taking place at the State Board of Education.
And, of course, the media only reports.
One side of it.
So just bringing attention to it.
And when people found out that we had a designated foreign terrorist organization trying to influence the board and put their indoctrination to the social studies standards, Texas patriots rose up and roared like a lion.
And we probably outnumbered them.
Our patriots who showed up at the board and testified probably outnumbered the Islamists and the woke liberals who came and testified before the board.
And I know certainly the amount of emails and phone calls that I've got telling me to vote for the right things to keep Islam out of our.
Our classrooms, our patriots definitely overwhelmed the other side.
And I think this is a great model that we should use everywhere, which is we have to keep the people informed and let them know what's happening.
And then we need our patriots to put the right amount of pressure on politicians because politicians respond to pressure.
They're only getting it from the other side.
They're going to listen to the other side.
Our people need to tell them to have that Texas and America first emphasis.
And that's how we stop the rise of Islam because, of course, they're coming for our classrooms, but not today in the state of Texas is the message that we sent them.
Brandon Hall, before you go today, and look, thank you, your ministry, your pastor, but you've stood up for the children of Texas.
And every generation of Texan that's come before you, thanks you for that.
And Julie Pickering and all the other folks that stood in the breach in this Texas Education Board.
These are fights that matter, and they're fights that resonate, not just down through time, but this will have a massive ripple effect because of the economics of the publishing industry where scale is so important.
What Texas goes, Texas leads so many states.
I think it's 19 states that Texas, the decision of the Texas Education Board rolls through.
I just want to make sure before you leave us on this Saturday, in this historic victory, and folks, this came from your use of your agency.
You have everybody squabbling, people yelling and screaming at each other, and all this stuff's going on.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
What matters is action, what matters is victory.
Victory begets victory.
We had lost this in Texas.
You know, I'm not so sure how much the Proposition 10 of Banish Real Law would have mattered.
Let's say this would have mattered a lot less.
This is the personification or manifestation, maybe is a better word, manifestation of populism.
A lot of people can talk and a lot of people got opinions.
They're going to do this and they're going to do this.
And this is terrible.
This person saying this about me.
This person saying about me.
It doesn't matter.
Why do you think I never talk about that kind of stuff on the show?
It's a waste of time.
What's important is action.
And we have massive problems in this country.
They're going to be solved by action.
And you are the vanguard of a cadre of people that can get things done.
And you see this in the Julie Pickering's and the Brandon Hall.
I just want, before you leave, the difference, because this is not a small thing, this is kind of everything.
The difference between what you were advocating.
Being in these textbooks to teach this generation and the next generation of young Texans versus what the Islamist wanted to put in these books, sir?
Well, the difference is, Steve, we're going to teach the greatness of America.
We're even going to teach Manifest Destiny.
And the fact that Manifest Destiny was the motivating philosophy behind our great ancestor pioneers who took freedom, cultural advancement, and prosperity from sea to signing sea.
And we're actually going to teach that that was a positive thing and a good thing.
We're no longer going to apologize for our great.
In the state of Texas and in America.
And we're going to pass that great tradition and that great heritage down to our students.
And it will have that Texas first focus instead of a global focus.
And so our students will see themselves as Texans and Americans and part of that great story.
And then we also teach factual history about the fact that it was the teachings of jihad that motivated the conquest of Christian lands and motivated the killing of 3,000 Americans on 9 11.
And so what we're finding out is that when you stand up, To Islam, you stand up to the negative forces that are trying to come in and revise our history, that you can win.
And we've reversed decades worth of historical revisionism that paint America as the bad guy.
We're teaching that America is the good guy.
We haven't always been perfect, but we have an incredible story here.
And it's led to unparalleled levels of freedom and prosperity for America and also for the rest of the world.
Where did they go, Brandon, to find out more about you, more about this Texas situation?
And Julie Pickering, yourself, the members of the Education Board, people that brought this to everybody's attention.
And then, of course, the Warren posse and others that all joined in and had this massive turnout and let these politicians know and let these leaders of the education apparatus in Texas know you're not backing down.
We're not doing that.
We're not teaching this globalism.
We're not going to teach all this Islamist crap.
We're going to teach the best values of Christendom.
And Western civilization as manifested in the state of Texas through manifest destiny.
You guys, I'm going in to speak here in southern Minnesota, huge, huge event here with the governor debates, and then we go from here right to the heart of Minneapolis for another one.
So, I'm uh, I'm very excited.
The uh, I just got a the Star and Tribune is here, though, Minneapolis Star and Tribune, and that.
And you got to realize the local media here, I just got done chewing them out.
I said, You guys, you wouldn't even know I'm running for governor here in Minnesota because they don't want me, Steve.
The Tribune.
And the local media.
They're just, they know if they attack me, I get the word out.
And so, you guys, you want to help out?
It's miklindellgov.com.
We're going to win this.
I'm about to go in there and show them our pathway to beating Amy Klobuchar.
And I got a play by play here of what we're going to do with rallies all across Minnesota.
I'm building a team of just like I did with the Cosmo America of hundreds of thousands strong in every Senate district in Minnesota.
I'm going to show them a campaign.
Steve, it'll be the second biggest campaign in history.
Second to our great president.
But I'll tell you everybody, I couldn't be possible.
It couldn't be possible if I was worried about my pillow.
But because of you, I can sit here and go 100% all in for governor.
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