Episode 5283: Battling Back Against The Islamification Of Texas; No Confidence In The 10 Point Plan
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Why are we discussing this war in the Middle East, the last 39 days?
And I want to really thank the great analysts and observers we had because I think we've done as good a job as possibly could do of giving everybody the range of things that are out there to come to your own conclusions, make sure you understand it.
About opportunity costs.
And let's say this nuclear threat, which I never thought was really much of a nuclear threat, but let's assume that even they had a close to a nuclear threat or a couple of years away from making a bomb.
Ladies and gentlemen, that is one one hundredth of the threat to this nation.
Read the Axios freaking piece.
Why do you think we got Joe Allen in here five years ago?
We understood this day was coming.
This day, not to talk about 10 points and what is Iran saying and what's the United States saying and what are we all doing?
Because, look, we're all going to work through that.
We're all going to work through that.
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The single most important issue is we have a weapon that is a hundred times more lethal than nuclear weapons.
Today in Axios, they admit that and they have no control over it.
No control over it.
The originators admit that.
And this is this whole fight.
They've had a huge fight in the Pentagon over the last couple of months about actually, well, we can give this to you, you can't, that, you know, this is out of control.
This could destroy humanity today.
Not some issue about what they could launch a nuke on Israel or they could do this or send it to Saudi Arabia or God forbid send it to UAE.
Destruction of humanity.
And because of opportunity cost, because as a country, we are obsessed with it, we are not dealing with the problems in this nation.
The problems in this nation do not exist in the streets of Tehran or with the Islamic theocracy running Iran.
It's inside the wire here between the oligarchs and the Marxist jihadists running New York City and trying to take over the state of Texas.
And all this is going to do at the end of this is make this nation more populist and more nationalistic.
Treat a Parsi.
I want to thank you for coming on here in the last couple of weeks.
I know you got a lot of grief about this.
We got grief about it, but you have done, because I've gone back and looked at this tape, you've done an excellent job of giving us the perspective of kind of the people across the table today, but the people that were, you know, and not just the theocrats, but other people, other dissident voices in there.
So here's the question I've got because I've read your stuff and all the stuff in the European papers.
And I asked Reagan Reese, who asked the best question at the Pentagon briefing today, and is a White House correspondent for the Daily Caller, as I've asked Pasobic and I'm about to ask Faddis, what exactly is the 10 points that are agreed to right now?
Because I see what you're putting out.
I see what the Iranians are putting out.
I see what's in the European papers.
And I saw President Trump's, I guess, the 90 second interview he had on Sky TV.
We don't know if anything has been agreed on within those 10 points, but rather what Trump has said is that the 10 points that the Iranians have put forward will be the basis of the negotiations.
And so it's important to understand the United States has not agreed to those points, but it has agreed to have those points to be the basis, the framework for the negotiations.
That in and of itself is a win for the Iranians because the 15 points that Trump had put forward before was essentially the terms of Iran's capitulation.
And that is not what this negotiation is going to be about.
Now, will the United States agree to all of those different 10 points?
I find that very unlikely.
So, demands that the U.S. should leave the region entirely militarily, I don't think Trump is going to agree to, although I personally think he's going to be the U.S.
But hang on, ho, ho, slow down, slow down, slow down.
You're sugarcoating this.
There's not an if those are the 10 points.
I haven't heard the White House say that yet.
Maybe somebody has.
I just asked Reagan Reese, who's the White House correspondent for Daily Caller, and asked the ballsiest question of hexes this morning about the total civilizational destruction of the Persian people.
But my point is, is that actually a basis?
Because I think the way I count, there's eight to 10 of them.
You can't even, if you have a conversation, it means you're interested in what the Iranians have to say.
And quite frankly, we're not interested in the reparations.
Their control of the straight or moves.
We remove all our military from the Middle East.
You can't have a conversation because to even have a conversation assumes you're interested in the response.
And we're not interested in the response.
So how can those 10?
There's got to be a different 10.
It's got to be.
It can't be those 10 because that's not a basis.
A basis means there's something here and we'll work it out and on the margin, and maybe we go 70%, you go 30.
There's seven or eight of these that are dead on arrival, aren't they?
I don't think the United States in any way, shape, or form will pay reparations to Iran.
And I don't think the Iranians will dictate whether the U.S. should stay or leave militarily in the region.
I personally think that the U.S. should leave anyways.
And frankly, Trump himself has said that we should be leaving.
Unfortunately, we're not.
But again, it will not be because the Iranians are dictating it to the United States in a negotiation.
But I do think that there are other elements of this that are going to be part of the end result if there is an agreement.
The strait will be open.
I mean, what is happening in the next two weeks while the negotiations are taking place is that these straits will be open, but the Iranians will be charging fees for the transit of these ships together with the country of Oman.
But the United States to accept that and recognize that is in and of itself a big step towards making that a permanent feature.
Now, these are not huge amounts of money, nor is it going to give the Iranians a lot of income, but it's going to give them geopolitical leverage.
And that is one of the features that the whole of this work, even if there is no agreement.
In a couple of weeks, excuse me, Taiwan in Beijing, a couple of weeks.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
You're a smart guy.
If we agree that the Iranians with the Omanis or that group of pirates down there in the cliffs around Hormuz get to charge a toll in what has been heretofore free navigation, is that not an American Suez?
We can't agree to that.
How do you agree to that?
That means you guys are in control of the Straits of Hormuz.
And once you're in charge of it, charging a fee under our Acquiescence, how are we ever going to wind that back, sir?
Instead, I think there's going to be a non agreement agreement, which means the two sides don't come to an agreement on any of these points or the majority of these points.
But it does not mean that the United States goes back into war with Iran because Trump did the right thing of pulling out of this.
He should never have gone into this war.
At this point, it should be clear to everyone it was a mistake.
This does not serve U.S. interests.
And even if the Israelis want to continue the war, that should be an Israeli war.
This should have been an Israeli war from the outset without the involvement of the United States.
And that is then going to leave a scenario in which there will not be an agreement, but there will be a new reality.
I think one of those realities is.
That the Iranians are going to charge tolls in the Persian Gulf.
But the US is not going to lift sanctions on Iran.
It's not going to do any of those other things that the Iranians are asking for, but it's also not going to go back into a war that really does not have a path to victory.
At this point, I would be very surprised after Trump's experience in the last 39 days that he decides that this is worth another go.
Now, if the Israelis push again, which I think they will, it will really come to Trump making a decision as to whether he wants the Israelis to decide when the United States goes to war.
Or whether the president of the United States decides when the United States goes to war.
Let's go to the New York Times then reported Maggie Harriman and Jonathan Swan as part of their new book.
It was a shocking, I think, expose in the, and who knows if it's fake news or not, but the first part of it was about Israel's presentation, I think on February 11th, of President Trump, actually in the Situation Room, which is pretty extraordinary.
I'm not so sure that's ever happened before to have a foreign leader in the Situation Room.
Then it was about President Trump's.
Senior advisors.
It turns out that, at least according to the New York Times, and I haven't seen it refuted by the Israelis, they were 100% dead wrong on all their intelligence.
Everything they briefed President Trump on was wrong.
And the second part of the story was JD and Ratcliffe and Marco going out of their way to say, oh, their intelligence is wrong and here's what's correct and maybe we shouldn't do this.
It does correspond with what I heard throughout this entire period that Trump himself was the person in the White House most eager to go down this path because the Israelis had managed to convince him.
And this also comes through very clearly in this piece.
And it's also what I've been saying on your show and previous interviews.
Trump was convinced to think that this was going to be very, very easy.
And if it was going to be easy, he would never have to deal with these issues of the Iranians controlling the straits or that this is impacting his poll numbers in the US or that it's impacting inflation.
And gasoline prices because this would be over with within four days, slightly longer than Venezuela, but far more glorious.
They had managed to convince them back again based on rosy pictures and false intelligence.
Very specifically, the Israeli part of the presentation is that after the initial bombing of the shock and awe, the Iranian military would not have any ability to control the Strait of Hormuz and there would be a massive uprising of the people.
Wrong on both counts.
And I mean, not kind of like we're 5% off or 10% off.
Exactly, and again, I hope that the president really, yeah, I just really hope that the president really takes this into account because he is going to be faced with the Israelis very soon pushing him to go back into this war.
They're dead set against this ceasefire.
One of the senior uh officials in Israel, politicians in Israel, called it the worst political debacle in Israeli history that the ceasefire was reached.
So he's going to have to make a decision, and learning that he was fed with false intelligence.
False assessments by the Israelis should weigh on his mind when he makes his next decision.
In a few minutes, we're going to go to Brandon Hall down in Texas.
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That's the enemy inside the wire.
That is the enemy we need to deal with.
Not in Tehran, not this excursion.
Let's get it behind us and move on.
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Sam Faddis, you've been a fountain of reason in this entire time.
Give us your assessment of where we are and where do you think we're headed?
Where we are, we have a ceasefire and we're going to sit down at a table and we're going to negotiate.
That's, and we have nothing beyond that.
What we have are, I can tell you what the Iranians say the 10 points are that we have allegedly agreed to negotiate from.
They represent a surrender document, a surrender document for us.
I mean, we're the guys in the Japanese uniforms on the battleship in Tokyo Bay in this scenario.
We are supposed to withdraw all our troops from the region, acknowledge their control over the Straits of Hormuz, acknowledge their right to continue to exact a toll, lift all our sanctions against them, also roll back every resolution the United Nations ever passed on the nuclear program.
We're supposed to agree to their right to enrich uranium.
The Iranians have now, first, when they promulgated it yesterday, I was up saying, no, no, no, no, there's other 10 points out there.
But to my knowledge, I'll look to my crack staff or even the War Room Engine Room.
I haven't seen the administration come back with a counter and say, no, those, President Trump mentioned it on the Sky News 90 second interview that that was not correct.
I do think we need to see those, although, hey, if you start the process, you start the process.
But It can't, Sam.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I told Trita that can't be the basis of negotiations because I count seven or eight of those that are dead on arrival, just and no need to have a conversation because we're never going to get there.
Like, for instance, no need to have a conversation about you charging a toll because it ain't the two million dollars a ship.
That's not the point.
The point is that we would actually agree that you have the ability to control the strait, although quote unquote, it's open by actually charging a toll.
Uh, and we're going to turn it over to the British and the French and the other hapless Europeans.
To essentially put the Revolutionary Guard and a group of pirates down off her moves in charge.
And there's many more besides that, correct?
So it can't be a basis since these are dead on arrival, right?
We cannot possibly come anywhere close to negotiating an end to this war based on the 10 points the Iranians have put forward.
But those are the only 10 points.
And they say in their announcement, they, the Iranians, when they said we agree to the ceasefire, they were very explicit in saying that we are negotiating from our 10 points that they had rejected the original 15 point plan, I think it was that Trump put out.
And now the Americans have agreed to negotiate on this basis.
Now, the fact that Iran says that doesn't make that true.
It's a maximalist position, which I'd love to take.
And President Trump, that's how he's negotiating.
These guys put a maximalist position.
But when you do deals, you've got to have a big crossover at some point because there's always tension before you close and execute on the deal, right?
To pull it apart.
You're so far, the bid and the ask here are so far apart.
You're going to ask Donald Trump for reparations.
You're going to ask Donald Trump to pull out all the military we've got in the Middle East.
I mean, in this regard, what the Israelis are saying right now is that this thing's a non starter.
And when they look at the 10 points and they're getting their nose rubbed in this, they're actually, from their perspective, correct, are they not?
Sam, I mean, if we go with what the Iranians are putting out, it would be a surrender.
Obviously, President Trump isn't going to surrender.
So I think I'm not a diplomat, but I would guess that if I was heading to Pakistan to try to negotiate this, it would be a very tough meeting because some of these things just can't get around.
The nuclear section, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on, hang on, hang on.
Why do we even go to why do you even look?
And I'm a guy that wants to get the hell out of here.
Why do you even go to Islamabad?
You tell them right now and say, Hey, look, we don't want to go back to using the we don't want to go back, but in this ceasefire, there's got to be some light at the end of the two week tunnel.
We don't want to go back to pounding again.
So, right now, there's such what they've put out there 10 points are so in your face offensive.
Well, again, I'm not a diplomat, so I wouldn't go there because I wouldn't be able to talk to them.
But there's got to be something that if we're going to try to get through this and get some kind of peace agreement and stop this killing, then let's see what happens.
But if it doesn't work, we're going to go back to it.
And I think whoever's on our side going there is going to say exactly that message.
If you guys don't start acting realistic with us, then it's just going to turn the spigot on again.
And this time, as the president said, we're going to take out your infrastructure, oil, electrical power grid.
We're going to make sure that you can't function as a society.
So I think that's what the hard ball is going to be played in Pakistan.
I mean, our audience was pretty shocked yesterday when they heard that some Republican was still pushing this and that people just didn't understand the logic of teach American history and Texas history and patriotic history.
The concept that we would have any Islamic involvement in this whatsoever is just such an alien concept, no pun intended, to our audience.
So, why did people are shocked this morning when they're hearing it went to two in the morning?
It should have been over with a quick vote, quick discussion, and a vote.
When you guys finished.
So, why did it go into the early hours of the morning, sir?
Well, part of it was a lot of the testifiers that we had.
It took a while to get through all those testimonies.
But again, yes, we're going to be in debate probably all day today, going through this line by line.
And we're going to have to defend keeping the good American patriotism and exceptionalism and our Texas history in and making sure that we don't get the global perspectives and definitely not the influence of Islam.
And so, this battle is far from over.
I'm encouraged we had some good amendments that were positive yesterday.
And I think that's because the SPOE members are hearing from these testifiers.
And so I think people who may have been a little on the fence or a little bit not as strong as they needed to be in standing up to Islam, I think they were really motivated to do the right thing by all the testifiers that we had yesterday.
Well, the best outcome that we could have by the end of the day is to pass what we have on the table right now.
And I'm going to have some amendments, and some of the conservatives will have amendments that would strengthen it.
But the draft that we have right now, with the sweeping amendment that was made last night, is very pro America, teaches a great perspective of American history, and it's very America and Texas focused.
I'm going to make some amendments today to try to strengthen where we're at with Islam because our students need to know that this is a foreign way of life.
It's not just a religion, it's a whole set of values and the system of Sharia.
It's a foreign way of life that would destroy this country if we allowed.
To take a foothold.
And so our students just need to know the 1,400 years of documented history of Islam showing up on your doorstep.
And they never show up to coexist or to get along or to assimilate.
They always show up to conquer and to take over.
So if we can show our students that, I think we have a better chance in America of stopping it.
And so we're going to be fighting that today.
But the best possible case scenario is that we can pass what we have with maybe a little bit more strength to it.
Captain Finale, you've done such a great job here on going through the CENTCOM and the military plan, the defang and decline.
But this is my point.
You gave a very touching and meaningful talk about your brother in arms that you served with, and then he went back to Texas.
He was a real Texan.
You talked about Texas values.
You talked about what made this man what he is.
This is my point.
The fight we've got right now ain't in Tehran.
The fight we have right now is in Tehran.
Side the wire in the United States of America, and we're losing this country.
I want people to understand until, and it's not about the war room, it's about, you know, Jenny's story and people rallying down there starting in January, Karen Sigmund, all the great patriots in Texas to fight this imposition of Sharia law that is so far advanced, as Peter McElvenney has told us.
He went there and said, in the same time frame in London, and London has fallen, that it is much more advanced in the state of Texas.
And this is what we have to save.
We have to beat this back.
This is like the gates of Vienna.
This is like Tours, right?
This is like Charles Martel, the hammer, defeating them.
They are in this country and it must be defeated.
We don't have a choice.
If we do not defeat it and we don't defeat it in Texas, you're not going to have a country.
You're going to have what's happening in New York City today.
Captain Fanel, given that, your perspective on where do we go here in this situation in Iran, sir?
Well, Steve, just one comment about Markham Dossett, who passed away last week.
Markham was a seventh generation Texan, and he was standing up against the invasion, as you're talking about.
There was no question in his mind that Texas was under attack, and he understood that.
And so, patriots like the one you just had on, and others that are in Texas and your show that's been down there, it's very, very important.
So, I don't disagree with you at all.
We have to make sure that we secure our own internal borders, and we have to Clean this up, and we cannot allow this to happen to America.
But in terms of the external fight, we are in a fight.
We've been in a fight for a month now with the Iranian regime, and we need to find a way to get out of it without allowing them to hold the world and ourselves hostage.
So that negotiation is going to happen.
If it doesn't go well, I see that, as the Secretary of War said, our forces are still in the region and still will be able to bring power to bear.
I see the Iranian response, and I heard the other gentleman from the Quincy Institute talk about where the Iranians are and what they think.
It's kind of like a small child.
They throw a temper tantrum, but they really can't do much.
You're still the parent, you still have the power, and they can say and do what they want.
What is really critical, in my opinion, are the two issues it's what we do and how we negotiate the nuclear issue, which is really important, but also the Strait of Hormuz.
And there's no way that we can allow Iran to charge tolls for transiting through the Strait of Hormuz.
The precedent that that would set would undo not just 250 years of American naval heritage, but another two, three, 400 years of British and other nations.
We cannot allow the Iranians to have a toll booth to control an international waterway.
If we do that, then Beijing will try to do the same for the Strait of Malacca.
The South China Sea, the Taiwan Strait, the Yellow Sea, and the Sea of Japan, to be honest.
So, and beyond.
They want to control even around out to Hawaii and beyond.
So, we cannot allow that to happen.
I don't think the president will allow that to happen.
And I think the best way to demonstrate our ability in this negotiation is to have freedom of navigation with our ships.
And we have five ships, American ships, flagships that are in the Gulf right now.
I know others have been calling for this.
I repeat what they've said.
I spelled the same as name wrong, but we need to get our American ships out that are flagged to demonstrate that we're not going to stand by for this and help the other nations that are dependent upon this.
We don't have to stay there forever, but we have to demonstrate that the Iranians are toothless in this area.
And if they pop off and try to shoot somebody, then the hammer comes down again.
But we've got to get through this and we've got to get out of it to focus on the main thing, which is what this meeting with Xi and President Trump is going to be about in May, which is to remind Xi that he is not going to control.
Half of the Pacific Ocean and keep us in the west coast of America.
No, I, at this point, if I had to predict, I would predict that we're going to be back in a shooting war sooner rather than later.
I hope that's not true, but we're miles apart.
I mean, look, we think, or want to think, they're coming to the table because they believe they are losing the war.
They are coming to the table because they believe they are winning the war and we are losing, which is why they're dictating terms to us, which amount to surrender.
So that's where we are.
You don't have to agree with their assessment.
You don't have to adopt their position.
I'm just saying they don't at this point believe that we are forcing them to the table.
In Americans' national security strategy, Since really the beginning of this republic.
And I realize we've become an imperial power all over the globe.
One of the central underlings that we assumed, and this is what about the end of the dollar empire at Bretton Woods.
Once the Royal Navy and the British pound couldn't do it, the Americans stepped in at the end of World War II.
But free navigation has been a central, central, central.
Look at World War I, look at World War II, the Pacific, all of it.
How big a deal?
Because people say, well, hey, it's a couple million bucks.
If you look at the thing, it doesn't matter.
It's not about the money.
It's not about even how bad this is, which is terrible, paying it in Chinese currency instead of petrodollars.
It is the very concept that a collection of pirates, which they are, and theocrats could actually set up a toll booth in what has heretofore been a freely navigable.
Straight into a place where, you know, 20%, they say 20% of the world's resources, but if oil, but if you look at Europe and you look at Asia, I don't know, it's 75%, 80%.
So to even have that conversation is going down a slippery slope that in showing people that you're even interested in having that conversation.
You can't be interested in having that conversation because it's never going to happen.
Trevor Comstock, let's finish on an upbeat note today.
Look, we're not shooting.
Our kids aren't in harm's way this morning.
There's a lot to be thankful for.
President Trump's going to figure this out, it'll be figured out.
And we'll cover it nonstop until it's figured out.
Like I said, There are things, let me just repeat this.
The threat of this nuclear weapon, these nuclear weapons, and I've been very suspect about the reality of that entire thing.
I agree with President Trump.
He totally obliterated what they really had back in June, and it was time to move on.
What Anthropic is telling you, and what they're telling you over at Axios in this article today, and we'll have Joe and some people up this afternoon to talk about it, is 100 times more lethal to this country, to you personally, and to this thing called what we are it's a Homo sapiens as a species, full stop.
And that has to be addressed.
And it has to be addressed now.
What's going down in Texas is 10 times more important.
It's just 10 times more important.
And we need to focus.
The opportunity cost of spending time and money and focus on this is killing us.
That's what we have to be.
We have to grow up and we have to focus what's real and what's important and what is going to stop this country from being the greatest country in the world and bequeathed down to us through what, 14 generations?
We have a massive obligation, not simply to the future, but every generation that came before us.
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You're also going to see, All the other stuff that we have out there that we don't want to bring in the factory, the closeout of our clothing line and these lines that we're closing out that were originally earmarked for the box stores, everybody.
So their loss is your gain up to 80% off and the free shipping right to your front door.
Remember to take advantage right now where we still have the free shipping for the War Room posse.
It's our mattress toppers and mattresses made in the USA.
Those big ticket items cost a lot to ship right to you.
800 873 1062.
Get a hold of one of my employees now downstairs and get that free shipping promo code war room.