Bannon's War Room - Episode 5261: The Mutiny In NATO
Aired: 2026-03-31
Duration: 48:52


=== Primal Scream of Dying Regime (08:10) ===

[00:00:02]  This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
[00:00:07]  Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
[00:00:12]  Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
[00:00:16]  The people have had a belly full of it.
[00:00:18]  I know you don't like hearing that.
[00:00:20]  I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
[00:00:23]  It's going to happen.
[00:00:24]  And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
[00:00:27]  MAGA media.
[00:00:29]  I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
[00:00:34]  Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
[00:00:38]  If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
[00:00:45]  Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
[00:00:51]  Okay, well, Tuesday, 31 March, Year of our Lord, 2026.
[00:00:56]  We're through the first quarter of 2026.
[00:00:59]  Wow.
[00:01:00]  And we're in the middle of a war.
[00:01:02]  Maybe not in the middle of it, maybe towards the end of it.
[00:01:05]  President Trump is working towards that.
[00:01:08]  We got a lot more.
[00:01:08]  We're going to get back to birthright citizenship.
[00:01:11]  Tomorrow, the mass deportation coalition also going to have the airports are now.
[00:01:15]  People are flowing through.
[00:01:16]  Shocking when you pay people and they show up.
[00:01:18]  Of course, the ICE agents deployed have been spectacular.
[00:01:24]  We're going to talk about that.
[00:01:25]  Todd Blanche from the stage at CPAC the other day saying that he 100% agrees with the war room that we can and will send ICE agents to the polls in the fall.
[00:01:38]  All that we're going to get to.
[00:01:39]  I want to get back to.
[00:01:40]  So Ben Harmon, drunken from Rome.
[00:01:42]  Ben, let me do the level set here, and then I need you to jump in.
[00:01:48]  This war, we've got Israel as an ally, America's greatest ally.
[00:01:54]  We have the Gulf nations, which President Trump's gone over and done, you know, done these last spring, did this big meeting over there of all the business opportunities.
[00:02:05]  And Dubai is the new influencer capital of the world.
[00:02:07]  Everybody's moving over there, and it's all great.
[00:02:09]  And Islam is all great, and it's fantastic, and it's a religion of peace, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
[00:02:16]  And then our NATO allies, we've been underwriting, you know, bailed them out in World War I, bailed them out in World War II.
[00:02:24]  And I mean, really bailed them out both times.
[00:02:26]  Bailed them out in the Cold War, rebuilt Europe, and then paid for the defense for decade after decade after decade, won the Cold War with some help from them, but not enough, some help from them.
[00:02:40]  And now I've underwritten this.
[00:02:41]  And as President Trump, you know, said, hey, maybe you should pay 2% in the first term, which they committed to after the Ukraine situation.
[00:02:48]  All they did was whine and bitch and moan.
[00:02:52]  And so now we're in a situation where there's a shooting war, and we have 50,000 young American men and women in harm's way.
[00:03:02]  And we've put forward to the Congress a $200 billion butcher's bill for this to be paid for, I guess, by Congress.
[00:03:13]  And we've argued from the beginning, hey, just like in the Gulf War in the early 90s, the Arab nations and maybe Israel, pass the hat.
[00:03:21]  We don't care who puts the most in, but if the number's 200 billion, we want the hat to add up to 200 billion.
[00:03:28]  And by the way, we want to see where your armies are.
[00:03:31]  If we're going to take Karg Island, we want the UAE guys, those special forces, because they've got a really good small army, but if punch is way above their weight, we want to see them on the first wave.
[00:03:42]  We want to see the IDF in there.
[00:03:43]  We want to see the Saudi infantry in there.
[00:03:47]  And it looks like we're getting the exact opposite.
[00:03:49]  I think the Gulf Nations put out a proclamation overnight saying they wanted the United States to continue and to finish the job here, but no commitment of their military.
[00:04:02]  President Trump did say, hey, I think we've got to look to you guys to pay for this.
[00:04:07]  Israel came back yesterday, and at least it was, I think the channel, the independent channel was at 12, which is normally pretty accurate.
[00:04:15]  Came back and said, officials said, we got our hands full in this ground war in Lebanon.
[00:04:20]  We're not going to be of any help, but thanks for asking, but no troops, no combat troops, no boots on the ground.
[00:04:28]  And that's bad enough because that's the region that we're in there.
[00:04:31]  Remember, the number three purpose of this military operation is to make sure that the Iranians can't project power regionally.
[00:04:39]  And that would be against Israel and, of course, against our great Arab allies.
[00:04:44]  But the one I think sticks in the crawl the most, and looks like it's sticking the crawl of the president the most, is the Europeans, because the Strait Of Hormuz is either it's either going to Asia or it's going to Europe and the Red Sea, down with the Houthis, is all.
[00:04:58]  Suez Canal is all going up to Europe and I think we have the British are in the mumble tank, nothing happening there.
[00:05:06]  France is nothing happening there.
[00:05:08]  The Italians and the Spanish.
[00:05:10]  The Spanish have gone out of their way to kind of hurt us, not even say they're not going to cooperate.
[00:05:14]  You know you can't use Spanish airspace.
[00:05:17]  The Italians.
[00:05:18]  Giorgio Maloney, the bridge between President Trump and Europe, has said we're not going to do it.
[00:05:23]  And I think even Poland said, hey look, when you talk about our patriots or thads or whatever, we we're worried about the Russians.
[00:05:30]  You know we love you guys, but we don't know if we're going to be able to do it.
[00:05:34]  Give me assessment and let's start in Europe.
[00:05:37]  And you just sent me a story, just as you're about to come on about.
[00:05:41]  It looks like some of our great allies over there are dumping US treasuries, which we warned the audience that was going to happen and that's why, maybe more than ever, you got to get the end of the dollar empire?
[00:05:52]  Because, for as much as we and this is what for Europe, starting a hundred years ago, to bail these aristocracy, the aristocracy out, to bail these feckless nations out in World War II, to fight the Cold War, to do it all, and now there'd be this whole thing with Russia and the Ukraine, situation of which and, by the way, if we give a security guarantee and do anything to help these people in Ukraine, people ought to have their heads examined, because I warned you and I told you on this show,
[00:06:21]  and Ben Harnwell told you, this is who they are and they're showing you who they are, and they want an American security guarantee.
[00:06:27]  They want us up at the line of contact Ukraine.
[00:06:30]  Hey, put it where the sun don't shine, Ben Harnwell, the floor is yours, sir.
[00:06:36]  Well Steve, that's such a magisterial synthesis.
[00:06:38]  I've basically flagged up four or five different articles.
[00:06:41]  I was going to bounce off um, Progressively.
[00:06:44]  Let's start off with yeah, I mean, that's basically the situation.
[00:06:46]  President Trump has sent out invitations to his best mates asking for RSVPs and the responses are coming in saying thanks, love to prime engagement.
[00:06:59]  So sorry it's.
[00:07:02]  It's been tragic to watch, even from my glittering beady, cynical eyes.
[00:07:07]  Let's start off with the FT article, because I think that's really, that really is quite substantial, because this shows you what your friends and allies who who, who will never say no to schlepping over to the White House for the photo are actually doing behind the scenes.
[00:07:23]  So since February the 25th, don't forget the takeout of the Ayatollah was on the 28th.
[00:07:31]  So from this is according to the Fed's own data, Steve, since February the 25th, nations have sold 82 billion dollars worth of treasuries.
[00:07:43]  Now, it's difficult to pinpoint who exactly has been doing this.
[00:07:46]  So the FT suggests it's Turkey and India.
[00:07:49]  Turkey has sold $22 billion worth of treasuries, but not necessarily exclusively U.S. treasuries, just $22 billion worth of bonds of central bank holdings.
[00:08:06]  So those are the two figures.
[00:08:07]  And I flag up India and Turkey specifically.
[00:08:11]  Turkey, President.

=== Spain Closes NATO Airspace (05:47) ===

[00:08:13]  Prime Minister Modi, always very happy to go over to the White House for the photo op, but here protecting his own nation's interest.
[00:08:23]  Erdogan, NATO ally, EDEM.
[00:08:29]  Let's look at the Spanish and Italian developments, because these are interesting, different in their responses, but just the no is just as firm and just as unyielding.
[00:08:42]  So Spain, socialist Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez, a month or so ago said, no, you can't use, you can't land and fly into the Middle East.
[00:08:55]  You cannot use the two military bases, Rota and Moron.
[00:09:00]  It's actually called Moron.
[00:09:02]  You can't use either.
[00:09:03]  And these are joint Spanish and American bases.
[00:09:08]  And then yesterday, out comes the escalation from that no, if an escalation were indeed possible.
[00:09:16]  Spain has closed its airspace to US military flights heading to the Middle East.
[00:09:23]  Spain's, Italy's development, our dear friend Giorgiofoni Maloney, is, as you would expect, slightly more well-placed.
[00:09:35]  But hang on, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on.
[00:09:37]  Whoa, hang on, hang on, slow down.
[00:09:40]  It's one thing to say, I'm not, even with the British, was it Fairmont, for the British to say, hey, we need six hours because we have 51 Muslim members of Commons and we're basically controlled by the Muslims now.
[00:09:55]  And so we need six hours of optics before we can let you fly.
[00:10:00]  Or it's one thing you're going to get into Maloney and others.
[00:10:02]  But to close the airspace, and particularly Rhoda, Spain is a major naval facility, to actually close the airspace adds a massive logistics issue to the United States.
[00:10:15]  I mean, that puts people in harm's way.
[00:10:17]  We had this problem, and I think it was with France when they closed their airspace during the attack on Gaddafi back in those days.
[00:10:24]  And we had a couple of F B-111 bombers that are fighter bombers that actually, I think, went into the drink because they ran out of fuel back in, I think, 84, 85.
[00:10:37]  But this is a big deal for a government that's supposed to be allied with us, that a government that we have supposedly a working relationship, to close the airspace in the middle of a shooting war, is that is telling you we're not your ally.
[00:10:55]  And, you know, we got a problem with what you're doing, and we got a problem with how you're doing it.
[00:10:59]  So tell me about Spain for a second, because I think that's, we understood that it's probably the most socialist.
[00:11:05]  And you've got a bunch of people you see all the time, these Marxists up there, that get up there and say, yeah, we believe in the replacement theory.
[00:11:12]  We want to take as many migrants from North Africa as possible and replace the population, particularly if you're right-wing.
[00:11:19]  I mean, they're up in your grill saying, if you're a right-winger, we would rather have a Muslim fighting age male migrant with all the danger that brings from North Africa than have you that are part of Vox or part of some of these other parties, maybe even farther right than Vox.
[00:11:34]  But for the Spanish government to say, and this is, folks, it's the great demasking, the unmasking.
[00:11:40]  I mean, how can Spain sit there and say, we're not going to allow you to use your airspace when we've got a working agreement with them, sir?
[00:11:51]  Well, Steve, you have put your finger on it.
[00:11:54]  Closing your airspace to another country is what you do in military conflict, and you close your airspace to those countries either that you're fighting against directly, or in the second order sense, to those countries that are allied to the people that you're fighting.
[00:12:10]  So it's one of those two categories that you block airspace to.
[00:12:14]  You don't block airspace to your own allies.
[00:12:18]  So that's absolutely right.
[00:12:19]  And that point needs to be made.
[00:12:21]  The Spanish question is rather, I find it difficult to, I mean, I get where they're coming from being spent.
[00:12:29]  But their argument is basically this is illegal to use these bases because this isn't a NATO war.
[00:12:37]  There's no Article 5 here.
[00:12:40]  The problem is, the two bases here, they aren't NATO bases.
[00:12:43]  They are Spanish-American-operated bases.
[00:12:48]  So then the NATO dynamic is really a foreign excuse here.
[00:12:53]  Obviously, Spain is a NATO ally, but it's not a formal NATO base.
[00:12:56]  Like, for example, you have a formal NATO base in Naples in Italy, not an operational base.
[00:13:02]  It's a headquarters.
[00:13:03]  The actual, again, American, Italian-run base is the one in Sigonella in Sicily.
[00:13:11]  That's the one that the Italians said no to.
[00:13:16]  While the plane was mid-flight, they said, no, no, you can't land here.
[00:13:19]  You haven't given us the notice to say that you're coming in because we need this.
[00:13:25]  We need to discuss this in Parliament.
[00:13:27]  This gets back to a debate that a lot of people didn't focus on years ago in saying that, because Rhoda Spain, these were our bases.
[00:13:35]  And with, I guess, long-term leases.
[00:13:37]  And then we get in the situation, we made them joint bases, had some agreement with the Spanish government.
[00:13:42]  And now, in a shooting war where the United States has young men and women in harm's way, and we have the nation's prestige on the line, we're trying to accomplish things.
[00:13:50]  They just sit there and shut it down.
[00:13:52]  I mean, this is a problem, a big problem.
[00:13:55]  I don't know why we're not going back to Spain and say, hey, look, thanks for the memories.
[00:13:58]  But actually, they're our bases.

=== Young Soldiers in Shooting War (02:19) ===

[00:14:00]  And we're going to do what we want to do.
[00:14:02]  I mean, this is outrageous.
[00:14:04]  And particularly when you have such a radical government.
[00:14:06]  I mean, they're up in your face all the time about the harder elements of that government about replacement theory.
[00:14:16]  Ben, hang on for one second.
[00:14:17]  We're going to stick here because President Trump is put people on notice that, hey, look, I don't know how long we're going to be here.
[00:14:25]  We've got a punchlist of our objectives.
[00:14:27]  And once they're done, we're probably moving on.
[00:14:30]  And, you know, to stop and make sure that we don't have world economic turmoil, somebody's going to have to step up here.
[00:14:36]  And we don't actually have a lot of people that are saying, oh, yeah, I can do that.
[00:14:40]  In fact, they're saying the exact opposite.
[00:14:43]  Birch Gold, there are decades in which nothing happens and weeks in which decades happen.
[00:14:50]  I think this holy week is one of those weeks.
[00:14:53]  Make sure you check out Birch Gold and Philip Patrick and the team.
[00:14:57]  More of that when we return to the war.
[00:15:00]  Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
[00:15:06]  War and the rumor of wars.
[00:15:08]  Remember where they say that I think it's Mike Tyson's quote: everybody's got a strategy in either boxing or in war until you make the first contact with the enemy.
[00:15:18]  In fact, he says until you get punched in the face the first time.
[00:15:21]  Then it's all and the same thing with war.
[00:15:24]  First contact with the enemy, everything changes.
[00:15:27]  That's why David Zier is going to join us in a moment.
[00:15:30]  Our Pentagon correspondent is just doing a great job.
[00:15:33]  And that's what takes the professionalism and the planning, but particularly just training, training, training all the time.
[00:15:42]  So it becomes second nature.
[00:15:44]  And especially when things go wrong.
[00:15:47]  And remember, these young kids, these are 18, 19-year-old sailors, the Marines, Army, the Airmen.
[00:15:56]  You got these enlisted people that come in.
[00:15:58]  The kids are very, very young.
[00:16:00]  You got non-commissioned officers that are not.
[00:16:02]  As Neil can tell you, not that much older.
[00:16:04]  Then you have an officer corps, and the officers start very young in their early 20s.
[00:16:10]  It's just, you couldn't be prouder of them because they know how to basically think through a situation and make it second nature.
[00:16:16]  And that just comes from practice and drill, drill, drill.

=== Rogue Lawyers Targeting Homes (06:32) ===

[00:16:19]  So it's second nature, especially in times when things don't go right, when you're up at general quarters.
[00:16:25]  And the tempo, this goes back to what we said at the beginning of the show.
[00:16:29]  The tempo here is pretty astounding.
[00:16:32]  30 days into this, I think it's 11 or 12,000 sorties they've had or targets with another 3,500 or 4,000 go.
[00:16:40]  And they're always coming up.
[00:16:41]  Pete talked today about dynamic targeting, which is what happens when you're actually in the mission.
[00:16:47]  You've already got a pre-planned target and a target of opportunity comes up.
[00:16:50]  That's dynamic targeting.
[00:16:51]  So they're adding things all the time.
[00:16:55]  One of the things we try to do here in the war, in particular, our sponsors is make sure the angst and anxiety and all this uncertainty in different elements of your life is taken care of.
[00:17:05]  One of the ones we're proudest of is working with this home Tidal Lock because, look, 80 or 90% of your net worth is tied up in that home.
[00:17:13]  And the rudimentary system we have in this country, which is very rudimentary, lends itself to bad ombres that want to take advantage of you, whether that's artificial intelligence with cyber or these bad actors or even, as I keep saying, rogue lawyers, rogue accountants, rogue financial advisors, rogue friends, relatives, rogue, you know, significant others.
[00:17:34]  You just don't know.
[00:17:35]  And you have to make sure that is impenetrable.
[00:17:37]  You've got to make sure you've locked this down because 80 or 90% of your net worth is tied up into it.
[00:17:43]  And more importantly, when something like this happens, your entire life change, you will just focus on this and the anxiety will work on you like acid, right, until your soul.
[00:17:54]  And so that's why it's so important for pennies today to really talk to Home Title Lock and make sure that you have this locked down.
[00:18:01]  Tom Simons, who's a retired field special agent for the FBI, and this kind of especially, Tom, what I love is you come on and you give us examples from real life.
[00:18:14]  And I sit there and go, this couldn't have happened.
[00:18:16]  You go, no, it actually did happen.
[00:18:18]  And this is what people have to understand, particularly your home.
[00:18:21]  They're trillions of dollars of these assets in the United States, the home ownership.
[00:18:26]  And people, particularly bad guys, understand that this is a very vulnerable system.
[00:18:30]  And the state and local authorities are not going to do anything to make it better.
[00:18:33]  You have to take it.
[00:18:34]  You have to do it on your own.
[00:18:36]  What do you got for us today, Tom?
[00:18:38]  I got a crazy story for you today.
[00:18:39]  I wouldn't believe it if it wasn't true.
[00:18:42]  At the center of the storm is a realtor named Glennis Cardona, who worked with three co-conspirators to steal a $1.5 million house in Burbank, California.
[00:18:52]  Here's how she did it.
[00:18:53]  She orchestrated the sale of this house from an unknowing owner to the stolen identity of an unwitting buyer.
[00:19:00]  And then she arranged for lenders to fund $975,000 of the home sale using forged deeds filed with the county clerk's office.
[00:19:09]  The trick was Glennis was also the escrow agent for the transaction.
[00:19:13]  So when the lenders sent the money to escrow, it was Glennis and her crew who received the money and split it among themselves.
[00:19:20]  So let's take attendance here.
[00:19:21]  We have a homeowner who never consented to the sale of his house.
[00:19:24]  We have an unwitting home purchaser who's now saddled with almost a million dollars in debt.
[00:19:30]  We have two lenders that aren't getting paid back the money they lent and a title company who unwittingly ensured the transfer of the title from seller to buyer.
[00:19:39]  Now, my former colleagues at the FBI put the criminal case together.
[00:19:42]  Three of the fraudsters were busted.
[00:19:43]  The fourth is currently a fugitive.
[00:19:45]  But the problem, as you alluded to in your introduction, Steve, is that a criminal case does not restore home ownership to the rightful owner of this house.
[00:19:53]  That's still a mess.
[00:19:55]  And that person's going to have to spend a fortune in legal fees to unring this bell unless he has a product like Home Title Lock.
[00:20:04]  I want to reiterate to the audience that this was done.
[00:20:07]  The owner didn't even know any of this stuff was happening.
[00:20:10]  This can happen given the rudimentary system we have for these titles and how busy people are and how people can get in this.
[00:20:17]  And this is an example: a rogue real estate agent working with some bad ombre's, not using even artificial intelligence or cyber because that's the big way they're coming.
[00:20:26]  But you've got these rogue people that have these devious minds.
[00:20:30]  They think this up.
[00:20:31]  Next thing you know, you're out of a home and they're looking to you to pay back the loan.
[00:20:36]  And your whole life from that period forward, nothing, your family, your friends, your hobbies, war room, everything that you did is just second theory.
[00:20:48]  And you can't even focus on it because you're sitting there looking at financial ruin.
[00:20:51]  You had a secure, fairly secure life with this was your nest egg, right?
[00:20:57]  Because most people's home is really their retirement, the home equity in it.
[00:21:02]  And in one fell swoop, it's gone.
[00:21:04]  That's what's so scary about this, Tom.
[00:21:07]  Exactly.
[00:21:07]  And, you know, and had this homeowner had home title lock, he would have had home title lock monitoring the status of his home title, notifying him if any monkey business was going on.
[00:21:18]  And then they have a U.S.-based restoration team that's going to spend a million bucks restoring that home back into you at no out-of-pocket cost to the homeowner.
[00:21:26]  It's a no-brainer.
[00:21:27]  I subscribe and I sleep better at night because I do.
[00:21:32]  HomeTitleLock.com promo code Steve.
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[00:21:45]  And it's just pennies a day.
[00:21:47]  That's why, you know, don't take it from Tom.
[00:21:49]  Don't take it from me.
[00:21:50]  Just go talk to Natalie Dominguez and the team, get the information.
[00:21:53]  I think you'll see how this the cost-benefit analysis is just, it so overwhelms you for the benefit of it, particularly now when you've got AI, cyber, and you've got rogueliers, accountants, and even a real estate broker.
[00:22:09]  I mean, she was a very, she, having been in the real estate business, knew how easy this was to do, correct, Tom?
[00:22:17]  Yeah, she knew exactly what strings to pull because she had experience in the industry and it was sort of the perfect storm.
[00:22:26]  Tom, thank you so much.
[00:22:27]  Another harrowing example.
[00:22:31]  Tom, thank you.
[00:22:32]  And like Tom said, remember, with the FBI and guys coming in for the criminal side, that doesn't do anything at all on the civil, doesn't do anything on you getting your money back or your house back.
[00:22:41]  So don't let it happen.
[00:22:42]  And this is home titlelock.com promo code Steve.
[00:22:44]  It's so simple.
[00:22:47]  Zir's with us, but I want to play Zir's cold open at the bottom.
[00:22:50]  I'm going to go back to Ben Harnwell.

=== Hegseth Streamlines Military Deployment (15:39) ===

[00:22:52]  Ben, Georgia Maloney.
[00:22:54]  And I've been, people have been, have been, already been lighting me up in Italy that know me saying he doesn't understand why President Trump hasn't come out and given her special attention like he gave the French and he's given the British.
[00:23:07]  She's the bridge.
[00:23:09]  She's the self-proclaimed bridge between President Trump and Europe.
[00:23:13]  We've always dismissed that as nonsense.
[00:23:16]  And why is she not jumping in here and being a full ally to the United States of America, sir?
[00:23:23]  Well, you know, whenever she does describe herself as being a bridge between the United States and the European Union, immediately it always comes to my mind the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, folks, if you ever remember that undulating bridge that eventually is the second largest suspension bridge ever built in the world, which collapsed within a couple of weeks after opening.
[00:23:43]  And that is the bridge to nowhere, which is Georgia Maloney.
[00:23:47]  So she said no.
[00:23:50]  Formerly, it was via the defense minister on the basis that Italy hadn't been consulted before the flights.
[00:23:58]  We're talking more than one U.S. bomber here before they took off.
[00:24:03]  And therefore, Italy said no.
[00:24:04]  And Italy cited its treaties with the United States.
[00:24:09]  And in as far as it goes, there is a you know, I have no time for this government or its prime minister, but there is a legitimate question to be asked, considering this is the same thing happened with regards to Spain on the same excuses, why the Department for War hadn't put in the phone calls, the U.S. Department of War hadn't put in those necessary phone calls beforehand.
[00:24:34]  That is a legitimate question to ask.
[00:24:36]  But beyond that, because it is simply a procedural excuse on Italy's part, and you can guess that it was simply a procedural excuse masking a political refusal for the time being by the fact that we know about this.
[00:24:52]  Because in the Spanish situation, the government was very gung-ho in telling all and sundry that they'd said no, that they'd blocked the airspace of the United States.
[00:25:02]  With regards to the Italian situation, Steve, this actually happened by all accounts last week.
[00:25:07]  It's only come out into the press now, and it first came out to the Italian press, to Corriere della Sera, through one of their sources, presumed to be, though it's not said explicitly, on the Italian side rather than the US side.
[00:25:22]  And that, Steve, I think, is the indication that this leaked out to the press, is the indication that the government really wants the Italian people to know that they have said no.
[00:25:33]  And that's because there is a lot of antipathy here in Italy towards the U.S. maneuvers in Iran specifically.
[00:25:43]  But it's still, I think, worth taking note of.
[00:25:48]  Ben, I want the answer when we get back, and we're going to bring Zira into this conversation too.
[00:25:52]  The president's laid it out today.
[00:25:54]  He's saying, look, we defang these guys, we've declawed them, have essentially destroyed their operating military.
[00:26:03]  They can still do scattershot.
[00:26:05]  We've broken them.
[00:26:07]  He's said twice, I think, today, we've had regime change because now I'm dealing with a third or fourth tier guy.
[00:26:14]  It's time now for somebody to pick up the slack.
[00:26:17]  He's looking for NATO, looking for the Royal Navy, the French Navy, the Italian Navy, and Air Force to step in here.
[00:26:23]  Is this practical?
[00:26:25]  We're going to, because I got to tell you, when President Trump gets an idea like this, he normally acts upon it.
[00:26:30]  Ben, stick around.
[00:26:31]  David Zeer is going to be with us as the president has looked like he's focused on an off-ramp to kind of wrap this thing up.
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[00:27:01]  And I witnessed that enthusiasm on the lines and our submarine builders and ironworks.
[00:27:06]  It's unbelievable.
[00:27:08]  But I just wanted to ask you, what's the status of the delivery of any hardened bunkers for additional protection for our troops?
[00:27:16]  And without getting too specific, what kind of measures are we taking to protect some of the larger, more strategic aircraft like the Sentry and other?
[00:27:25]  Well, it's a great question.
[00:27:26]  I'll say what I witnessed where I went was a completely locked-in discipline of bunker use and bunker improvement.
[00:27:37]  So from the beginning, as we stated very clearly, the first thing we did was set up a defense and make sure our defensive capabilities were maxed out before any of this even started.
[00:27:46]  That included fortifications as much as possible, but it also included disbursement.
[00:27:51]  If all of our people are in one place, you could imagine why that's a big problem.
[00:27:55]  So dispersing is part of that defeat.
[00:27:57]  Alongside that disbursement is more and more bunkers.
[00:28:01]  And I can tell you, talking to base commanders, talking to our allies in Israel, talking to others, rapidly fielding that and then improving those positions is a theater priority, no doubt, as are the air defenses and the layered air defenses.
[00:28:13]  It's not just Patriots and FADS.
[00:28:15]  It's fighters and defensive caps.
[00:28:17]  It's other kinetic defeat systems.
[00:28:19]  It's electronic warfare.
[00:28:20]  So the defense of our troops and our assets is maxed.
[00:28:24]  I will say on some of those other assets you talked about, air wings, airframes, there's some things adversaries are doing to provide info and intel that they shouldn't.
[00:28:34]  We're aware of it.
[00:28:35]  And ultimately, we move things around and don't.
[00:28:38]  One of the biggest principles you learn in the military is to not set patterns, predictable patterns.
[00:28:45]  And so commanders are working hard to adjust in real time with those systems and make sure they're in the right places and not easily targetable.
[00:28:54]  You don't want pattern recognition here.
[00:28:57]  Be specific, David, why did you ask that question about bunkers?
[00:29:01]  What was on your zier?
[00:29:03]  What was on your mind about this?
[00:29:05]  I was reminded about Iraq, right, when Rumsfeld said you go to war with the army you have, not with the one you wish you had.
[00:29:15]  And I was remembering the soldiers, you know, welding steel plates to the sides of the Hummers.
[00:29:21]  Now, they didn't have the advanced IEDs at that point, you know, the liquid metal forming stuff that just cut our columns in half.
[00:29:29]  But I'm concerned, you know, covering the dignified transfer for RAV, you know, I'm concerned about more lives being lost because these guys only have to get it right a couple of times and they can do major damage.
[00:29:41]  And I just thought it was really important when I saw the articles coming out that they were trying to streamline deployment and delivery of hardened structures over there.
[00:29:51]  You know, I hope he can do it fast.
[00:29:53]  And especially with this AWACS devastation, half a billion dollar aircraft, we lose one more.
[00:30:01]  We're in trouble in the global fight, right?
[00:30:03]  Maybe.
[00:30:05]  So these questions are all based on what are we going to do to protect our troops.
[00:30:10]  Also, I asked him last week about what are we going to do to turn the internet back on for the people and how do we do that as they try to shut down all these VPNs and the Iranian militias and stuff.
[00:30:21]  So, you know, my question is we haven't.
[00:30:24]  Yeah.
[00:30:25]  Yeah.
[00:30:25]  But are you concerned that are you concerned that they're very noticeably not giving a level of specificity, even when Admiral Cooper comes on about just even some of the math about this, right?
[00:30:42]  You know, because we talk about uptempo, we talk about the bombing every night.
[00:30:47]  They're asserting this, but so far they've been very remiss to get into details.
[00:30:53]  Now I realize you got operational security and you don't want to tell the enemy what you're doing.
[00:30:57]  But a little bit, we're all kind of in the fog of war here and a little bit of an abyss because they're still the scattershot of the Iranians.
[00:31:10]  We understand they've dispersed their command and control.
[00:31:12]  I think there's, as Eric Prince continues to tell us to like 31 different units.
[00:31:17]  But do you get a sense that the Pentagon has a strategy here, kind of a media strategy or a briefing strategy to make sure the American people are fully apprised so that they can think through and make sure they support or not support President Trump's strategy?
[00:31:34]  I think they've been careful not to discuss policy, right?
[00:31:38]  And they are taking these measures.
[00:31:41]  Hegseth was with the troops in Central Command a few days ago over there, right?
[00:31:45]  So I believe that I believe they're in a spot because, you know, again, it only takes a dozen drones to hit a target ground zero and hurt a lot of people or take out, you know, listen, in the Red Sea, a missile came within a half a mile of the Harry S. Truman.
[00:32:08]  And if it wasn't for the SeaWiz, I think it could have hit it.
[00:32:11]  So, you know, these threats are real and imminent.
[00:32:14]  And no matter how much planning you do, I think they do have a plan.
[00:32:17]  I think they really care.
[00:32:18]  I think Hegseth really cares about the troops.
[00:32:21]  But there's a lot of unpredictables here.
[00:32:23]  And we spoke last summer, Steve, and at the Army 250 celebration.
[00:32:27]  And we talked about during the June strikes, you know, about a wider war with the Gulf states and other and the regional, you know, geostrategic elements going on here.
[00:32:37]  So there are unpredictable elements here as nothing's really fermenting on the ground.
[00:32:42]  The MEK is attacking the Iranian guard and other things a little bit, but there's nothing gelling with Pahlavi or anything.
[00:32:51]  So, you know, where does it leave the people?
[00:32:53]  Where does it leave our troops for the long term?
[00:32:56]  How many additional casualties will we have?
[00:32:59]  I think it's a legitimate concern.
[00:33:03]  About the Gulf era, the Arab allies, and as we've got been up here, the NATO allies, President Trump is clearly now over the last 24 hours, maybe 30 hours, has been pretty adamant that he needs people stepping up to the plate, that we're going to only bear this burden by ourselves for so long.
[00:33:20]  What's the sense you got from the building?
[00:33:23]  Because these are the direct connects.
[00:33:25]  It's not a diplomatic, a lot of it's military to military.
[00:33:28]  And I know there are very close relationships, particularly with the Gulf armies, specifically UAE, very close relationship with the Pentagon.
[00:33:36]  Do you get any sense that Hegseth and General Kaine are making any progress on this?
[00:33:43]  Or is this still all at the White House level and diplomatic?
[00:33:47]  Well, I think it is that.
[00:33:49]  And it's also, I think UAE agreed to jump in the fight to protect the ships in the strait.
[00:33:54]  I think other nations will come on board.
[00:33:55]  I think Saudi Arabia will as well.
[00:33:59]  But, you know, Europe is always there when they need us.
[00:34:01]  So, you know, I think there will be some success for Donald Trump in putting together a coalition to target this.
[00:34:10]  But how many weeks out?
[00:34:11]  Will the oil hit $150 plus?
[00:34:13]  There's a lot of questions here.
[00:34:16]  But I don't think they're operating in the dark.
[00:34:19]  I think, you know, I wouldn't underestimate Trump.
[00:34:23]  I do think he's in a little bit of a position because, you know, Iran's four times the size of Iraq.
[00:34:28]  You know, how do you do that?
[00:34:29]  My grandfather told me 48 years ago, he used to make altimeters for the bombs.
[00:34:33]  And he always told me, hey, you could bomb the SNAD out of a country, but unless you've got ground forces, you can't change it.
[00:34:39]  So again, what level of success is enough for Trump and what nations will come on board to help?
[00:34:46]  You have 11 million barrels a day of oil missing from the world's supply right now.
[00:34:52]  All these tanks, all these storage things are at capacity over there in the Gulf states, and there's nowhere to go.
[00:35:00]  So I'm not going to throw in the towel, though.
[00:35:03]  I think Hegseth, he's under fire.
[00:35:06]  They're looking to hang him at every turn.
[00:35:08]  I was at the counter-cartel conference in Durau with Southcom a couple of weeks ago, and he signs his historic agreement with 17 defense ministers of the 31 countries under the AOR for Central Command from South America, Caribbean, and Latin America.
[00:35:22]  And they're talking about how he gave a Nazi salute in the Shields of America speech.
[00:35:26]  You know, so anything he does is going to be ripped apart.
[00:35:29]  I think he's very careful not to commit too much and doesn't want to get into too granular on stuff at the briefings.
[00:35:38]  They're short.
[00:35:39]  He picks 15 questions or so.
[00:35:42]  I'm trying to be respectful, but my concern is for the troops.
[00:35:47]  David, where do people go?
[00:35:49]  What's your social media?
[00:35:50]  Keep up with you throughout the day.
[00:35:52]  Sure.
[00:35:53]  I'm at Dave Zeer and on X and David Zeer on everything else.
[00:36:00]  Zeer, great job.
[00:36:01]  Thank you, sir.
[00:36:02]  Appreciate you over the Pentagon.
[00:36:04]  Thank you so much, Steve.
[00:36:05]  Ben Harnwell, the president's looking to at least get an alternative.
[00:36:10]  It's optionality with the president, range of alternatives.
[00:36:13]  There's clearly he's thinking through: hey, I've got options of if I've got to put combat troops in, if I got to keep bombing these guys, if I need another regime change besides the guys I'm talking to, but one he's clearly looking to do is have the allies step up here and bear some of the burden.
[00:36:31]  From your perch in Rome, David Zier is pretty optimistic that eventually Europe will do the right thing.
[00:36:38]  In your BD-I'd assessment, do you see that happening?
[00:36:44]  It might happen on a sort of bilateral basis with the U.S. tapping certain countries like the UK or have you, or Greece, for example, who has been quite cooperative.
[00:36:56]  Whether it's going to take place formally through the NATO infrastructure, at the present moment, I'd find that slightly more doubtful that the elements are there to do that.
[00:37:07]  I frankly find it difficult that the president's going to succeed in getting any sort of bilateral agreements country by country to come on board on this.
[00:37:16]  Because if it's true that the president is looking for an off-ramp here in continental Europe, they're not looking for an off-ramp because they never got on the on-ramp in the first place.
[00:37:28]  And they're sort of extremely concerned that they don't want to be moving in that direction, largely because the on-ramp isn't a static thing.
[00:37:36]  It's dynamic.
[00:37:37]  It's like a conveyor belt.
[00:37:38]  You need to get on and do nothing, and you're going to be moved further on into this.
[00:37:43]  And that's really not where the European countries are.
[00:37:46]  The reason being, as I've indicated before, it's because whatever you say about the European branch of our sociopathic overlords, they know how unpopular they are broadly because of the immigration issue.
[00:38:03]  Anyway, you've got the far-right iteration sort of nipping at their heels.
[00:38:07]  They realize that getting their countries involved in a third Gulf War in as many decades is politically suicidal.
[00:38:19]  They don't want anything to do with this.
[00:38:21]  They don't even want to be taken.
[00:38:23]  But to keep the solution open.
[00:38:27]  But I got it, but Brent oil is $118 a barrel right now.

=== Citizens See Rising Oil Prices (03:55) ===

[00:38:31]  It's going to go higher if they don't see.
[00:38:33]  If President Trump says, hey, look, it's your problem.
[00:38:35]  You've got to step up here.
[00:38:36]  Also, this has to have major implications for the Ukraine situation.
[00:38:42]  The citizens of the United States are seeing what's happening here.
[00:38:44]  They're seeing the president.
[00:38:46]  It shouldn't be the president's responsibility to get allies to come on an on-ramp.
[00:38:53]  Particularly, let me just make sure this is stated: is that coming out of Hormuz is oil and natural gas LNG going to Europe?
[00:39:03]  Going past the Houthis in the gate of tears down there into the Red Sea and Suez is 100% going to Europe.
[00:39:10]  You got carrier battle groups right now with American kids keeping those open.
[00:39:14]  This is a European problem.
[00:39:16]  This is a European issue.
[00:39:17]  And that's why you shouldn't have to take a bayonet and get them onto an on-ramp.
[00:39:22]  They should be there as an ally to be an on-ramp.
[00:39:25]  And that's not happening.
[00:39:25]  The resistance, this is my point.
[00:39:27]  President Trump, he's lighting these guys up now in True Social.
[00:39:31]  Because not only are they not getting on the on-ramp, people like Spain is saying, hey, upon further review, we got these joint bases, really not NATO.
[00:39:38]  It's us and you, and we got the superior hand.
[00:39:40]  We're not going to let you use the naval facility or the naval air base at Road of Spain.
[00:39:45]  That's off, and you can't use our airspace.
[00:39:48]  That's not just not being an, that's not being an ally or having allies got problems.
[00:39:52]  That's being somebody that's saying, no, you can't use our airspace.
[00:39:55]  We think you're the problem, and we don't agree with your military.
[00:39:59]  The oil that Europe uses, $118 a barrel, is going to go a lot higher if President Trump says, you know, upon further review, we're going to pull back.
[00:40:08]  I tell you, Ben, hang on.
[00:40:09]  I want to take you to the next segment because the president has now talked about this for 30 hours.
[00:40:15]  You can tell this is, I'm not saying he's going to pull this option, but he's clearly thinking through every alternative regarding this option, both with the Arab allies, with Israel, and particularly with NATO.
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=== Reframing Ukraine War Impact (03:28) ===

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[00:42:54]  Give me, you've got a couple of minutes to sum up here your thoughts because clearly President Trump, whether he does it or not, whether this negotiating tactic is going to double down someplace else or he's going to put combat troops in a Karg Island, he is developing at least this line of optionality, and that is to basically flush out who's going to step up here and share the burden with the United States.
[00:43:15]  Your thoughts, sir?
[00:43:17]  Well, no one's particularly stepping up at the moment.
[00:43:19]  President Trump is calling a party, saying the path is on.
[00:43:23]  But at the moment, the music may be playing, but no one wants to go to this party.
[00:43:29]  Apart from, as you mentioned earlier on, your Gulf allies, and this is what I put out on Geta this morning.
[00:43:38]  You do have, and this is what Semaphore carried, that officials from Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE have told their U.S. counterparts that they want the conflict to continue until Tehran changes its behavior.
[00:43:54]  But as of yet, have offered no boots on the ground to send in.
[00:43:59]  As you've been highlighting consistently, Steve.
[00:44:01]  Look, I'll quickly close with this point, this observation, because you mentioned it just before the break, and you said it's a very important consideration.
[00:44:08]  How much is this war affecting what's going on in Ukraine?
[00:44:14]  And yes, President Zelensky has been, bless his little cotton socks, has been trying desperately to insert himself into this narrative as well, and largely failing, but he is doing what he can do.
[00:44:26]  But I'd like to reframe your question, Steve, because I don't think it's so much, the fact isn't so much how much is this war affecting what's going on in Ukraine.
[00:44:37]  It's how much has what happened in Ukraine over the last three or four years affecting the operability for the Gulf War.
[00:44:46]  And this brings us to the Patriot battery situation, which Poland has refused to help.
[00:44:53]  And that is, nobody, if you ask, if America asks which country now, which of our allies has Patriot surplus to send to us in Iran, in the Strait of Hormuz or wherever, to help defend Israel, the answer is no one has excess capacity anymore because it's all been used up in Ukraine.
[00:45:22]  And that, I think, is a further illustration of the rule, the law of unintended consequences, which continue to reach forward to the present day of what happened in February 2022.
[00:45:40]  Ben Hardenwell, where do people go to get your BD-I'd analysis, sir?
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[00:48:06]  We do have a few carryover products, the closeout and overstock.
[00:48:10]  We brought over to the new factory, exclusive for the war room posse.
[00:48:14]  So when you're getting those Giza Dream sheets at that price, go ahead and get the rest of the factory sale that we have on the clothing up to 80% off.
[00:48:22]  And then we still have one more day of the standard MyPillows at $14.98, you guys.
[00:48:28]  So use that promo code Warroom.
[00:48:31]  This is our biggest Giza Dream Sheet special of the year.
[00:48:34]  It's the lowest price we've ever had in the War Room.
[00:48:37]  And you guys call 800-873-1062.
[00:48:41]  Get the best sheets in history right now.
[00:48:43]  Yep.
[00:48:45]  We'll see you back here on the 5 o'clock show.
[00:48:47]  The Charlie Kirk show is next.
[00:48:48]  Posto after that, bowling.
[00:48:50]  I'll do a transition with Bowling back here at 5.