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March 28, 2026 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 5253: War Escalating Into Lebanon; Texas Is The Railhead Of The Country

Bannon's War Room Episode 5253 analyzes the Trump administration's 15-point Middle East peace plan and Marco Rubio's claim that Iran can be defeated without ground troops, despite recent missile strikes at Prince Sultan Air Base. With oil hitting $112 and Wall Street crashing, the host criticizes CNN for airing Iranian state footage while urging Arab nations to lead militarily and Dubai to block Iranian finance. Domestically, a Senate funding standoff over ICE is contrasted with Frank Gaffney's "Sharia Free Pledge," arguing internal radical Islamists pose a greater threat than foreign aggression, ultimately framing the conflict as a test of American resolve against perceived global and domestic subversion. [Automatically generated summary]

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steve bannon
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Appearances
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brett mcgurk
cnn 01:30
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derrick van orden
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frank gaffney
04:25
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john king
cnn 01:45
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kristen holmes
cnn 01:47
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marco rubio
admin 00:43
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boris sanchez
cnn 00:27
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jake tapper
cnn 00:09
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Iran's Next Military Moves 00:15:24
boris sanchez
Secretary of State Marco Rubio told reporters a short time ago that he was expecting Iran's response to a U.S. peace proposal at any moment.
The Trump administration has offered to Ran a 15-point plan to end the war, and this comes as the two sides could potentially begin face-to-face negotiations in the near future.
At the same time, the U.S. is sending thousands of troops to the Middle East, though Secretary Rubio says that Iranian military capabilities can be destroyed without putting any American troops on the ground.
Listen.
marco rubio
We can achieve, we are achieving all those objectives.
We are ahead of schedule on most of them, and we can achieve them without any ground troops, without any.
Now, in terms of why there's deployments, number one, the president has to be prepared for multiple contingencies, which I'm not going to discuss in the media.
And again, I refer you to the Department of War, who will probably tell you the exact same thing.
But we can achieve all of our objectives with our ground troops, but we are always going to be prepared to give the president maximum optionality and maximum opportunity to adjust to contingencies should they emerge.
derrick van orden
Granted, I don't trust these guys as far as I can throw them, but it's time to start negotiating.
And Donald J. Trump has started negotiating, and everybody lied about it.
They said that didn't happen.
CNN, for instance, which is another trash network, you know, they were taking the word of the Iranian regime.
They actually played like four minutes unedited from Iran television station.
That would be like Winston Churchill allowing Joseph Goebbels to broadcast on the radio during World War II.
It's just absolutely foolish.
And they're rooting against the United States of America.
And there's something else I'd like to bring up.
It's not just the mainstream media.
There's a whole pile of former general officers and flag officers who are actually rooting for the Iranian regime.
And it's shameful.
Now you know who these people really are and how they have subverted President Trump during his first administration and how they're trying to subvert him now when they're civilians.
unidentified
It's shameful.
john king
Tehran is reporting that a projectile hit an area near its nuclear power plants.
This comes as Iran's foreign minister threatens what he calls a heavy price for such attacks.
And all of this economically, driving up the price of oil to $112 a barrel.
And once again, sending investors to the nervous exits.
Wall Street had another punishing day.
The Dow, NASDAQ, and S ⁇ P 500 all ended the day and all ended this week down sharply.
In short, all serious stuff, deeply serious.
Or perhaps, as the president put it tonight, just another stop on a longer excursion.
unidentified
And Cuba's next, by the way.
But pretend I didn't say that, please.
Pretend I did, sir.
Please, please, please, media, please disregard that statement.
Thank you very much.
Cuba's next.
john king
Iran hits the U.S. airbase in Saudi Arabia.
American equipment is damaged.
American troops are hurt.
It happened here.
Iranian state media releasing this image showing the destruction at the Prince Sultan Air Base.
We do not yet know how many service members have been wounded or how badly.
What is clear, however, is that this commander-in-chief is very different.
As the world was learning about this, and as those service members were dealing with what could be anything from bumps and bruises to hopefully not, but possibly life-altering injuries, the president was having what I guess we should call some Friday night fun.
steve bannon
Unlike other politicians, they would like the questions screened.
I don't ask for screening of the questions.
You can ask me anything you want.
You can talk sex.
You can do whatever the hell you want.
I'm here for you.
Whatever question you want, you can ask.
So do you want to do that?
john king
That's the president tonight at an investors conference in Miami.
He did also talk about the war.
steve bannon
It's not finished yet.
I'm not saying it's sort of finished, but it's not finished.
It's got to be finished.
john king
And he repeated what's become something of a refrain for him of late, that Iran is eager, very eager, the president says, to make a deal to end the fighting.
And though he said tonight there are some 3,500 targets still to be hit, his Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, today said there would be no need, Rubio says no need, to go beyond airstrikes.
marco rubio
We can achieve all of our objectives with our ground troops, but we are always going to be prepared to give the president maximum optionality and maximum opportunity to adjust to contingencies should they emerge.
john king
And perhaps along those lines, the contingencies you just heard Secretary Rubio talking about, CNN has learned, just learned, a third aircraft carrier, the USS George H.W. Bush aircraft carrier, expected to deploy now to the area as well.
That's according to a source familiar with the matter.
Unclear, though, is whether it will join the other two or replace one of those already there.
brett mcgurk
I can remember very vividly just Christmas Day 2023.
We had a Iranian drone grievously wound Americans in northern Iraq in January with three American, 2024, before three Americans killed in Jordan from an Iranian drone.
The Iranians have been doing this for some time.
And that gets to something I think you said important.
You know, the CENCOM military campaign, John, has about two more weeks left to run on its four to six week timeline.
So that brings you to about April 11th.
And they are methodically just taking apart Iran's defense industrial base, missiles, drones, day by day, so that at the end of this, Iran will be so significantly weakened and degraded.
I think the Iranians from people I'm talking to in the region are starting to realize that.
They actually don't have many friends and that their ability to recover from this every day goes on, the runway for them is much longer.
So does that open the path for diplomacy?
Maybe.
I mean, Pakistan, Turkey, others are passing messages.
There is this proposal.
I've heard mixed things from people who are involved in this.
And there seems to be a debate within Tehran of what's left of the system and who's really in charge of how to respond to the American proposal.
So there's a chance, I would put it a low chance in my experience negotiating with the Iranians, John, that there will be a diplomatic off-ramp.
I think we can take as a base case the military campaign will continue here for another couple weeks.
And within those couple weeks, you'll be testing out the parameters of diplomacy.
I think that's basically where we are.
kristen holmes
So we don't have the exact number of servicemen or women who were actually injured during this attack.
But I was just told by a source moments ago that two of the service members did have shrapnel wounds, but they were clear to say that these were non-life-threatening wounds.
I'm also told that aircrafts, at least one aircraft was damaged in this strike, but it's not something that's going to totally take out their capabilities on that airbase.
Now, in terms of the shrapnel wounds in terms of the wounds overall, the injuries overall, we do not have clarity on how many service members, men and women, were actually injured.
We do not have clarity on what those injuries were other than the at least two servicemen and women who were injured with a shrapnel injury.
Now, of course, all of this is going to further complicate what is supposed to be happening behind the scenes right now and what we are told is happening, which is this quest for diplomacy, these ongoing negotiations.
And I will say we heard from the Secretary of State earlier today who said that they were waiting to hear from Iran on that 15-point plan and that they still didn't know who they were supposed to be talking to and what they were supposed to be talking about.
And the reason why that's so critical, that 15-point plan, I mean, that's supposed to be the basis of these negotiations.
So if Iran doesn't accept that, what are they actually going to talk about if the two sides sit down together either late this weekend or early next week?
But when it comes to what happened in Saudi Arabia, I mean, this was, this information is still very fluid.
It is coming in.
It does sound like the injuries that we know of were non-life-threatening.
But again, this is still a very fluid situation after this Iranian missile strike.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Saturday, 28th, March.
Year of our Lord, 2026.
A lot to break down today.
Speaking of breaking down, they're breaking down media row at CPAC, particularly those large buses, the Patriot Mobile and other buses that had to get out.
So they're breaking down.
I think we had a clip of breaking down our studio.
I want to thank everybody.
It was amazing CPAC.
Thank everybody for coming.
Tons of energy.
We also, it's very tough, as you know, in those live events, to do the type of analytical coverage that we normally do.
And we've got to get to that.
So we got breakdowns today of many important things.
One, obviously, the war, where we stand, what's the reality?
How long is it before we can take the win, so to speak?
Also, the cowardly Senate, really, and just an amazing move, cut out ICE and Border Patrol.
And I think it's this understanding.
They think these things could be funded.
I think particularly ICE could be funded.
I'm not so sure about that.
Anyway, the House rejected that last night.
So there's a standoff there.
We'll get to that.
Also, no kings.
They're talking about millions of people going to flood the nation and now to drive their energy for the 2026 midterm election.
So we're going to break all that down.
I want to get to the war first.
The war is expanding.
It's not contracting.
The Saudis hit yesterday.
The Houthis overnight or a couple hours ago lit off some missiles into Israel.
At least any reports right now, they have not done anything on the Red Sea or anything of the traffic to the Red Sea.
Or there are some U.S. Navy elements down there.
Nothing on those elements.
You know, we fought the, I think the Houthis probably better than a draw this summer, but they punch way above their weight.
Also, I think Marco Rubio, who's one of the architects of this, remember, Marco wears two hats.
The Secretary of State had things being way overplayed.
He's national security advisor.
He's one of the chief architects of this.
And obviously, he's quite nervous.
He's been in the witness protection program for a couple of weeks, doing no media since he had the disastrous going to the mics telling us really what caused this, which was Israel was going to strike and they were going to be struck.
So that was the imminent threat.
His words, not mine.
Really, until yesterday in the tarmac, I don't think he'd been doing much media.
In fact, they'd had other people out, like Scott Besson, talking about escalate to de-escalate and 50 days of pain for 50 years of peace, all of that, which I think really has to be thought through.
Are we actually escalating to de-escalate?
Right now, our bombing campaign, the CENCOM campaign to defang and declaw the conventional military of the Iranians continues, but the Houthis are now in it.
Expansion of the Persian Gulf.
Rubio is very specific.
No need for to achieve the military, to achieve the military, to achieve the objectives of President Trump in the Trump administration.
You do not need boots in the ground.
That means you don't need to take Karg Island.
You don't need to take those islands right by the Strait of Hormuz.
You don't need to take, you don't need a beachhead up on those cliffs or up on that part of Hormuz where the B-2 bombers dropped the 5,000-pound bunker-busting bombs.
And I don't even think they're Persians down there.
I think it's kind of these Arab tribes that are down there, but are obviously part of the Iranian alliance or have been there since Alexander the Great and her bad ombre.
So I guess he's saying that keeping Hormuz open and making sure that we can have safe navigation is not an objective because I haven't heard anyone say yet that bombing just resolves that.
Now, if the objective, if that's not an objective, and you're going to put that back on NATO, which, hey, I do think NATO's got to step up here.
Remember, this all goes to Asia and to NATO.
We're their navies, right?
There's been talk about the Japanese Navy, the South Korean Navy, the NATO Navy.
You're finding out right now they don't have any punch.
Let this be a lesson for what's happening in Ukraine.
So don't lose that.
Also, I think it's incumbent upon us because you're hearing Kuwait say one thing, Qatar say another.
They're all getting hit.
Some are united, some are not.
I think the best way to unite the Persian Gulf is to have us sit down right now and say, look, the taking of Karg Island is going to be the first wave of that.
It's going to be your responsibility.
Instead of sending in the 82nd Airborne with two Marine expeditionary units to back them up, so you have the 82nd Airborne take it.
The Marines come in to hold it for a while.
You know, UAE, we've been pumping billions of dollars to these guys for years.
Yes, we are selling them weapons, but there's tons of military support for UAE and the Saudis.
It's time to step up.
Can the Arabs fight?
Do they want to fight?
Are they in this?
Are they not in this?
I think the exercise of this next week is maybe have the Israelis do less and the Arabs do more.
If you go to a briefing, you can't put it up on the board, the Persian Gulf, they call it the Arabian Gulf.
Fine, it's the Arabian Gulf.
Then let's go for it.
We're going to break all of this down, exactly where we stand.
What are President Trump's options?
He likes optionality.
When are we actually going to be talking to people called Iranians or Persians directly to see if there actually is a deal or if this war will continue?
All next and all morning in the War Room.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
As I said in my remarks at CPAC yesterday, it is you, the Warren Posse, the leaders of the MAGA movement, the grassroots leadership, you know, the precinct strategy people.
all of you combined that are going to make the difference here.
Here's the reason.
McClellan and the Civil War Coup 00:05:34
steve bannon
Just like in any war, all the initial polling, because there's always an embrace of the flag and patriotism.
And yes, let's do this.
You saw it in Vietnam.
You saw it in Iraq.
Saw it in Afghanistan.
Have we not learned the lessons of, I don't know, the late 20th and early 21st century?
What's important, as Lincoln said, and Lincoln went through some very dark days.
You know, there was a military coup, the beginning of a military coup against President Lincoln by General McClellan.
It came at the end of the Peninsula Campaign, where McClellan was not simply insubordinate and a physical coward.
There was a great concern after that, but the politicization, Lincoln had made a decision after he went down and saw what happened that McClellan would never have command again.
And he ordered him back to essentially Alexandria, bring his troops back down the James, up the round, up the Potomac.
And he relieved him and put John Pope in charge, an Indian fighter from out west.
Pope was a guy of, as Shelby Foote said, a known liar.
All the popes were known liars, and Pope was a braggart and a liar, put him in charge of a new army they created, the Army of Virginia, that was going to go back and do what Lincoln wanted, which was draw the Army of Northern Virginia out and destroy it in basically Manassas or Bull Run, whichever you call it.
Because Lincoln was very concerned at the time about the Army of Northern Virginia and getting to Richmond.
There was the beginning of a military coup by McClellan and McClellan's staff of backstabbing Lincoln.
They had been doing it for a while.
It actually increased after Pope turned out to be a total disaster.
And Second Manassas was one of the great victories of the Confederate Army, of the Army of Northern Virginia.
It got even worse.
They had to bring McClellan back and led to Antietam.
But there was an active potential military coup in the Civil War.
So we've gone, my point is we've gone through these issues before of turbulence and everybody wringing hands and pulling their hair out, doesn't know American history.
What did Lincoln say?
And Lincoln, at about that time, started in his process of becoming a warlord, in which he was a warlord, and he shredded the Constitution, shredded the Constitution to fight the Civil War, shredded it and became a warlord and took Sherman's advice eventually and realized this was a war of attrition and burned the Confederacy to the ground as Sherman told him in the first 30 days of administration when they said,
told Senator Sherman to come to Sherman's brother, get your brother out of here.
He's crazy.
This is crazy talk.
Well, it turned out it wasn't.
That's why wars are complicated.
And wars are not simply the fog of war, but it's the law of unintended consequences.
You have Marco Rubio, you know, in their ever-run round, 2028, we're going to do this, we're going to do this.
Forget 2028.
Anybody talking about 2028 is not concerned about the well-being of this republic today, today, today, today.
Lennon was right.
There are decades in which nothing happens and weeks in which decades happen.
And you're in the middle of that.
You're living in those, the Chinese curse.
May you live in interesting times.
Well, you're living in interesting times.
And because you're part of this audience and an activist and have learned how to use your agency, you are one of the driving political forces here.
Why in the hell do you think the mainstream media is down at CPAC saying, oh, there's a divide in MA and MAGA's divided, and this is divided, and that's divided.
In war, what Lincoln said, as long as you have popular opinion, he called it, or the people that have your back, you can go through these times and get to the other side.
And there's no better example than our revolution, and there's no better example than our civil war.
And the revolution, if you read the military and political history of the revolution, they were coming after Washington virtually every day.
What he had to withstand as an individual is, to me, what shows his greatness.
They undercut him.
They backstabbed him.
They badmouthed him.
The stuff they said about him is far worse than what they say about President Trump today.
And these were, quote unquote, his allies.
The same with Lincoln.
Forget character assassination.
I mean, this was, they tried to relieve Washington two or three times.
Gates, they had so many plots against Washington.
And Lincoln, the same.
A military coup by his own generals, who all happened to be Democrats, and they wanted to cut a deal with the South.
They wanted to cut a deal with the South.
That's one of the reasons they said McClellan kept pulling his punches.
My point, Steve, why are you wandering around and talking about the revolution, the Civil War?
Stopping the Persian Revolution 00:05:57
steve bannon
We want to talk about Iran.
Well, you can't understand what's going on until you understand the frame of American history.
We've gone through this before, and yes, everybody runs to the flag at the beginning of these things because naturally you have your patriots.
The important thing is how this goes through, as this goes on, where are you?
And as you have more information, and I will tell people, everybody says, well, it looks like at CPAC, they're all supporting the war.
I said, no, Hang on.
As we did the thing the other day and 65 or 70% of the war impossible, yes, we support the war.
Okay, do you support ground troops?
Do you support marching on Tehran?
What is, I think, very important now is to make sure that we, because we have, because of Israel's action, the world's greatest ally, we have, this has turned from some concepts,
or some people had a concept of the Persian people going to rise up and overthrow this Islamic Republic, of which they brought in, remember, don't think this thing just, it didn't just creep in on cat's paws.
We were thrown out.
And all the work we had done to make this a kind of a nation and assist this nation in its quest for modernity was thrown out.
That had good and bad.
And now you got the monarchists, and they're all running around CPAC, you know, oh, you know, free Iran, free Iran.
Well, hold, yo, if you want to free Iran, what are you guys actually doing in the country?
Because I certainly haven't seen any uprising.
We now have reports that inside the administration, they're very angry at Netanyahu and the Israelis for over-promising what was going to happen.
But it was the Israeli actions of that first Saturday night, or I guess the second, technically the second Saturday night of the war, when they bombed, essentially bombed the oil facilities around Tehran and created a firestorm that was, I don't know, looked like some of the Japanese cities that we bombed in March of 1945 when we firebombed, we tried to attempt to firebomb the Japanese into total submission and actually hit them with more destruction collectively than the atomic weapons we dropped later.
So don't think we won't unsheath the sword and throw away the scabbard because we will.
And we have.
And that changed, that was the inflection point of the war.
The two inflection points that gave the Iranians the initiatives, and let's be blunt, they have the initiative.
They have the initiative.
They have the initiative.
They've changed it.
They've shifted the center of gravity of this war to the Persian Gulf, and I think have exposed, they've been quite brilliant about that because they've exposed the fecklessness of our Arab allies.
The ones everybody's going over to the conferences for, and everybody wants to move over there, and everybody, oh, they're so terrific, and these guys are so great.
Well, where are they?
They haven't even committed all the things they're thinking of really doing some commitments here on the war.
They're bitching and moaning nonstop why the Americans are not protecting them.
This was the attack in the Iranians, just to put an explanation point on that, hit hint the Prince Sultan airfield yesterday and damage a bunch of American aircraft.
And I don't know, have 10, 12, 13 American casualties.
People are injured, some not so bad, some supposedly pretty serious.
But you haven't seen it come, you know, behind the scenes, they're reporting.
NBS is saying, you got to go do this, you got to take them out, you got to go hard.
Well, where are the Arabs?
I think our strategy right now should be: hey, maybe we want Israel to do less, and maybe we want the Arabs and NATO to do more.
Everything comes out of there either makes the Arabs money, big-time money, big coin, and it fuels Asia and Europe.
And oh, by the way, the main thing, as Captain Finnell continues to remind me, the Chinese Communist Party lives off what comes out of the, essentially lives off what comes out of the Persian Gulf.
So maybe we ought to stop that.
If there's going to be, and Rubio said we don't need ground troops, okay, I assume then Courmoz and the Persian Gulf are not part of your plan of an objective of the war.
That's fine.
The oil markets may respond to that.
I think they already have.
I think West Texas Intermediate is up near $100.
Their last trade years ago were $110, I think, for Brent.
That's going to have an impact.
It just is.
But if it's not an objective, because I haven't seen a plan or heard of a plan or talked to anybody about a plan that doesn't require some sort of ground troops and some sort of naval blockade or naval, you know, escort duty, like my kid brother had back in 86 and 87 in the tanker war.
It's time to get the Arabs to stand up.
Not that we should have done that maybe before the war.
Let's put a pin in that.
That's another thing.
All the stuff about what went wrong and all that, that's for another day.
Now we're in a shooting war, and we have American kids at the line of contact.
So I think all of our attention should be to what is going on here.
If we're going to be at war and going to put kids in harm's way, let's rip the Iranians' faces off economically.
Let's go to Dubai.
Are they exchanging any money in Dubai or any of the sanctions we put up?
Any country in the world trading with them, including Russia, if you're doing it, we're coming for you.
And we're stopping all the money flow and we're stopping the oil from being monetized.
If you sell it to keep the economy going, it's fine, but we're taking the cash.
The Sharia Free Pledge Confusion 00:13:27
steve bannon
Time to get very, very hard.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, I've got Dr. Thayer.
We're going to go through the war.
We're also going to talk about Lindsey Graham in a little while, other things, the ICE not being funded.
From the stage at CPAC, on Thursday, the Deputy Attorney General of the United States, Todd Blanch, concurred 100% with War Room and Stephen K. Bannon about ICE agents to the polls.
And I want to play if we can do it.
Ken Cuccinelli's misreading of the situation, Ken, on CNN the other night, trying to virtue signal, which you cannot do, Ken.
Note to self, note to CRA.
Love the CRA guys, but let's get our talking points organized because the Deputy Attorney General, which I think is senior to Ken's position over at DHS, says, yeah, we got to do it and we have to do it.
And we're going to do it.
More on that in a moment.
One thing we launched at CPAC, Frank Gaffney joins us.
And yesterday, the grassroots in Texas organization for like 150 grassroots leaders was amazing.
Jenny's story, hat tip, the Patriot Mobile, and Jenny's story.
She is the, she's just absolutely incredible.
Her organizing ability and the way that she brings people together, it's just incredible.
And so much momentum coming out of Texas.
That was the providential part about having CPAC in Texas.
Frank Gaffney, the Sharia, talk to me about the Sharia pledge.
I want to make sure this goes, and particularly at the federal level, we've got a caucus now.
And I don't understand why there's only 35 guys signed up.
Because you know why, folks?
If you don't put a bayonet in their back, and this past couple of days have been a perfect example.
The Senate had to take their two-week break, right?
Had to take their two-week break.
And, you know, the House guys wanted to do it too.
Now, Johnson, because I think the president put the whip hand on him.
You know, the House kind of came back last night, so we don't really have any funding.
It's a very confusing situation.
But Save America is kind of tossed into the garbage bin.
Let's be blunt.
Mike Lee and all these heroes that tried to push it.
You can't get anything done.
If you're going to take your two-week break, think about it for a second.
We told these guys, you're going to seize the floor, and this is going to be non-stop for four or six weeks.
When I kept saying when we first started streaming it, you know, Mike Lee was doing such a heroic job, but I was talking to, you know, Jenny Beth and Cleta and others associated with.
And I said, you know, I can tell when something's got some heat and some urgency and our audience responds and people, there were a lot of people watching, but you could just tell there was no urgency.
They were never going to seize the floor because they wanted to take their two-week break.
If we had done anything before, they were leaving.
They're not going to seize the floor and hold it, enforce this and have some dramatic Mr. Smith goes to Washington or the Civil Rights Act in the 60s and no, one of these historic standards.
They're not interested.
They're not interested.
Tommy Tubbyville told you, they're not interested.
They don't care.
And I think the president, you know, we got to, the way you make them care, sir, is you have a come round.
And to me, you can't get 51 votes.
You can't get 60 votes.
unidentified
Fine.
steve bannon
You can't get 51 votes.
Fine.
But man, I know you can get 27 votes and that gets your new leader.
So let's try it.
Let's try it under new management.
Clearly, this management in the Senate ain't working.
And the whole Senate leadership team.
So I think the new target, the new normal ought to be the 27.
And let's see how that gets through because Dune doesn't care.
Could care less.
Frank Gaffney, how are we going to get the pledge done?
Are you going full Grover Norquest on us?
Are you going to make this like the tax pledge that the Republicans had for decades?
frank gaffney
With your help, we will, Steve.
This is the deal.
We have a moment right now.
And I think it ties right into what you were just talking about.
We need new leadership.
Yes.
We need new, you know, bodies in the United States Senate, in the House of Representatives, in every legislative body across this country, executive.
And we have an opportunity to do that, I believe, by focusing like a laser on an initiative that we've demonstrated in the state of Texas can, in fact, be a unifying issue, as you pointed out, Steve, when you discern that the number of votes for Ken Paxton and for John Cornyn combined was less than the number of votes to ban Sharia in the state of Texas.
That was 1.9 million Texans.
And that's a small subset of what we're ultimately going to get because basically, I believe it's the case that if you go to any red-blooded American, and I'm including, yeah, some independents and yeah, I think even some Democrats.
I'm an old Scoop Jackson Democrat myself, much reformed, mind you, but I believe there are still people out there in this country who happen to vote the wrong way on some policy issues who are not going to vote for Sharia.
And so what we've done with your help is we've launched this campaign.
We call it the Sharia Free Pledge.
And it simply says this: quote, I pledge to the citizens of my district and the American people that I will oppose any and all efforts to impose Sharia law on them.
Now, that's an homage to old Grover Norquist, who I've had my differences with, but his tax pledge is the model for the Sharia Free Pledge.
And we need every man, woman in this country who is running for elective office to be asked, are you for Sharia in America or are you free now and want to remain free to vote against Sharia?
And will you serve as my representative in whatever capacity to work to keep Sharia out of our country, to prevent it from taking over?
And Steve, I don't know of anybody who's done more than you with your move to Texas in the run-up to that Proposition 10 to help us demonstrate that this really matters,
that this is a moment when we have to change the trajectory of our country and to take advantage of this, I think, growing sense of the American people that there's a toxic totalitarian death cult that seeks to destroy our country.
And if we take the actions that I believe are now possible, starting with this, to create a movement, I'd liken it to the movement to abolish slavery back in the 1830s and 40s and 50s.
You know, they called it the New York Times and the 1619 project, the original sin of this country was slavery, right?
250 years ago.
Well, you know, a Republican Party was born out of that movement, and they nominated a guy by the name of Abraham Lincoln to run for president.
And the rest, as they say, is history.
It took us 650,000 lives to expiate the sin of slavery and a lot of civil rights movement and all the rest of it.
But Steve, here's the point.
We're about abolishing slavery 2.0 because what these guys have in mind for you, these Sharia supremacists have in mind, is your enslavement.
And oh, by the way, Sharia itself enshrines the concept of slavery.
The guys who sold those slaves to the African traders and so on, those were Muslims.
And they're still selling slaves even now.
A lot of them are Christians, by the way.
We want a Sharia-free pledge.
We want the American people to be served in the Congress, yes, but also in their state legislatures, executive branches and so on, by people who are going to stand up against Sharia.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Frank, hang on, you're going in and out for the connection, but I want to get right now.
Where do they go?
Where do they go?
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In Sharia.com.
We'll get up on the cover.
I want to say here's the ban the Sharia, ban sharia.com.
Let's get up, Frank Hangers.
I think the irony of using the template of Grover Norquist is quite interesting because Grover Norquist, I don't think, has ever answered the question of his agency for the Islamic cause, particularly in 2003 when he was the one that talked Bush and the Say and going to a mosque a couple of days after 9-11 and saying, oh, it's a religion of peace.
Nothing could be further from the truth, and nothing hurt us more.
The only thing that hurt more was his two daughters not enlisting into the military and being part of the cause, but the other was that his administration was infested with pro-Islamist because they had made money in the Persian Gulf.
Now, let me think about that for a second.
Hang on, hang on.
I'm going to connect it out.
Bush, Texas.
Oh, yeah.
It's the reason we got the problem in Texas.
Here's the thing.
Let's just go to total war.
If we're going to put young men and women on those carrier battle groups, and we're not going to send them around the Red Sea to keep the Red Sea open for the Europeans and have the Houthis be firing at us like they were last summer when they were giving as good as they got.
If we're going to have American airmen in the KC-135 tanker is a perfect example of, I think, two women, right?
Four men, all patriots, all heroes, died in service of their country, or did they?
Or was it in the service of foreigners?
You know, the Arab in Israel got a big stake in this and the Europeans.
Where are you?
Is taking out the Persians, taking out the Islamic regime 100% the United States' issue?
As I've said over and over and over again, and the facts have proven me right, the issue we have with radical Islam is not going back 47 years because I was there at the beginning and about Beirut and all these horrible things that have happened and horrible things have happened.
Horrible things have happened.
But it's inside the wire.
And one of the reasons that we have this ban Sharia or prohibit Sharia law in Texas, and people are telling you, hey, man, Frisco, Texas, and some of these great towns are under siege by Islamists.
Why is that?
Well, hang on, let me wait for a second.
Why are Peter McAlvani?
Probably, I think he and Rahim are the two most educated and best about this.
Why is McAlvaney says, Steve, when he went to Dallas, you know, in the same timeframe, Texas is much worse, 10 times worse than London was at the same time, and London now has fallen.
He says because the business community and the political class have embraced them.
Let me repeat this.
The Bush political class, it's the same at the war.
Don't you see what's going on?
The elites in this country whose sons and daughters ain't on and carry a strike groups in the North Arabian Sea are not the brigade, the ready brigade of the 82nd Airborne.
You have maybe one or two, but as a class, no way, not interested.
We have a bigger problem inside the wire.
Mendami in New York City is 10x the problem for the United States of America than Tehran.
Full stop.
We got them inside the wire.
Don't ask me.
Ask these good, hardworking people in Texas.
The people in Texas, one of the biggest problems we're going to have is that they're such good-natured and kind people.
It's the kindness and the openness and this kind of, you know, hospitality that's going to make this fight so tough because the enemy ain't like that.
The problem in Texas is a ticking time bomb for this country.
The problem in Tehran, and we'll have plenty of time to get to what the imminent threat was.
I cannot be blunter.
The imminent threat for the destruction of this republic is in Washington, D.C., New York City, and places like Texas.
It's inside the wire.
You know, Grover Norquist and the tax pledge, they never had a pledge for cutting spending.
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So how do you not raise taxes and continue spending?
I'm all for cutting taxes.
I'm all for cutting taxes, particularly to give it to what's being funded.
But if you don't cut spending radically, you're going to bring a financial collapse in this country.
Full stop.
And that's the path we're headed down right now.
The problem is inside the wire.
Outside the wire is nobody, nobody does any heavy lifting except the kids, the young men and women in the United States of America.
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Dr. Thayer, if we're going to go to war, let's go to total war.
And what I mean by total war, let's shut down everybody trading with them.
Let's shut down, let's go to UAE and said, hey, you got like two hours to go to Dubai and shut it all down.
The pirate cove in Dubai got to stop.
We got to stop the Arabs.
Everybody's playing games.
The Israelis are playing games with us.
The Arabs are playing games with us.
The Europeans are playing games with us.
And what are we doing?
We're sending troops over there.
Which is fine.
President Trump needs options and alternatives to negotiate, to negotiate here around the military operation victory.
And Marco Rubio ought to go on the morning shows tomorrow, not Scott Besson, but Marco Ruby ought to go on the morning shows tomorrow and lay out and go back to this definition.
If the military objectives that he talked about in the tarmac, which have been what we've said, those four military objectives, if that is the sum total of our objectives, and that can be done by increasing an intense bombing campaign, and we know that there's 3,500, I think there's 3,500 additional, or maybe up to 6,000 additional targets, that's fine.
Then keep doing it.
If that's the objectives, and then you got that, either negotiate or just withdraw.
If you've met your objectives, I don't know what you need to negotiate.
Now, if it's bigger than those objectives, Marco Ruby is National Security Advisor, not a Secretary of State, National Security Advisor.
Because I think by statute, National Security Advisor from the National Security Act and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs are the two senior advisors.
And he ought to have just, if that's it, then we shouldn't be on any big search for who we actually have to negotiate with.
Now, if it's broader than that and we want something broader than that, that's fine.
Then people ought to know that because that probably means we may, not saying we have to, we may need an alternative of actual combat troops.
Let's call them what they are.
Let's stop saying boots on the ground.
Let's call them combat troops.
Young men and women of the United States of America combat troops inserted into the Persian Gulf or maybe even the mainland of Persia.
We're going to go back and redo what Alexander the Great did 2,300 years ago.
Fine.
If we do that, though, I want Arabs at the front.
The first wave at Karg Island, send you a MBZ, probably the best ally we got over there.
A guy that punches way above his weight.
A country punches way above their weight.
Fine.
Dude, you're all in.
Let's go.
Shut down Dubai, the pirate cove of exchanging cash, money laundering, the Persians' cash.
Shut that down now.
Shut it down now.
And let's get MBS.
He's another big talker.
You know, talking, we got to destroy this, got to destroy this.
No, you got to stand up and destroy this.
And maybe get a couple of three of those princes in uniforms.
Let's get them over there.
Let's get some of the royal families.
Qatar royal family.
You got any kids over there in Special Forces?
Let's line them all up.
Let's line them all up and then see how big they're talking.
Yeah, the United States got to get in there.
It's time to have a session where we talk about what exactly is going on here.
And President Trump's in.
Hey, and we're in too, as long as the information is out there.
And President Trump's now searching for some Iranians to negotiate with, and we're increasing the bombing campaigns, which is fine.
And that's one aspect of it.
But another aspect of it is you got to make sure, number one, the Israelis understand our strategic objectives, which are paramount and the only thing that matters.
And you got to get the Arabs.
And then let's get the Europeans.
Let's get the Royal Navy down there.
Let's get the French Navy down there.
Let's get them all down there.
Let's see, let's see.
Let's make them all turn over the cards.
Let's see who's with us and who's again us in this war.
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