Episode 5244: More US Troops Head To The Middle East; Protected Transport Through The Straits
Bannon's War Room Episode 5244 details the deployment of nearly 8,000 U.S. troops, including the 82nd Airborne and Marines, to the Middle East amidst stalled negotiations over Iran's 15-point plan. While President Trump seeks sanctions relief for dismantling nuclear sites and reopening the Strait of Hormuz, Iranian officials mock these efforts as they manipulate oil markets, driving gas prices to $3.98 a gallon. The hosts critique the strategy's incoherence and allies' duplicity, arguing that military leverage is essential to force a resolution before economic instability deepens globally. [Automatically generated summary]
Late today, that the U.S. continues to bolster its capacity for ground operations.
About a thousand troops with the Army's elite 82nd Airborne Division are expected to deploy to the region in just a matter of days.
They'll include a battalion from the division's immediate response force, which is a brigade that's ready to deploy and fight within hours of getting the call.
They'll join two Marine Expeditionary units, totaling about 4,500 personnel, also headed toward the Gulf, also equipped and trained to be ready for action on short notice.
Now, word of this new deployment capped off another day of some hopeful talk from the president about negotiations with Iran.
Unclear what that present he's talking about actually is, though he did later say it had to do with the Strait of Hormuz and was oil and gas related.
Purported gifts aside, though, gas prices rose again today to $3.98 a gallon, just two cents shy of the $4 mark, and a full dollar a gallon more than the day the war began.
Not a single troop should be put into harm's way in the context of Donald Trump's failed effort to try to bomb Iran out of existence without any clear strategy to improve the quality of life of the Americans.
The United States has now sent Iran a 15-point plan to end the war in the Middle East as fighting rattles the region and economic fallout escalates.
That's according to the New York Times, citing two officials briefed on the diplomacy who say the plan was delivered by way of Pakistan.
The paper notes it is unclear how widely the plan has been shared among Iranian officials.
It also remains unclear whether Iran will accept any offer or if Israel is on board with the proposal.
I would say those are two key areas for this to work.
Officials tell the Times the plan addresses Iran's ballistic missile and nuclear programs.
The Wall Street Journal, meanwhile, cites officials who say the document calls on Iran to dismantle its three main nuclear sites and end any enrichment on Iranian soil, suspend its ballistic missile work, curb support for proxies, and fully reopen the Strait of Hormuz.
The officials add that Iran would, in return, have nuclear-related sanctions lifted and the U.S. would assist while monitoring the country's civilian nuclear program.
The journal also reports that mediators from Turkey, Egypt, and Pakistan are pushing to have a meeting arranged between U.S. and Iranian officials in the next 48 hours, but both sides remain far apart.
And you can say that he was doing this to soothe the markets.
Another way to say that is that he's doing this to manipulate the markets.
And what have we seen?
We've seen the president completely change his explanation of what he wants.
Just days ago, he was calling for the unconditional surrender.
Now he's saying, okay, we want to make a deal with such and such terms.
And this is complete strategic incoherence.
And despite the fact that we have a military that can hit any target that Trump tells it to hit, if we have no strategic direction, then there's no clear way to get to the end of this war.
Now, it's a good thing, and I think that Trump has realized that he's going to have to deal with the Iranians.
But to do so in a way that has no coherence and no actual plan for extricating the U.S. out of this war is diplomatic malpractice.
Yeah, in Persian, they say Usul Gera, so principlists, and those principles are essentially now a couple of things: death to America and death to Israel.
I think it's a regime which is even less flexible than before, even more brutal than before, because they know that that's the only thing that they have left to stay in power is brutality, given their lack of legitimacy.
So, for me, I think it's helpful to remember that we actually don't have affirmative congressional authority to be engaging in this war.
Only Congress has the power to declare war, and they haven't here.
And so, the way that the executive branch has basically been getting around that is by saying we're not technically at war, we're just engaged in hostilities or just less than hostilities.
We're just doing airstrikes, and we're not committing serious numbers of troops to any type of ground force invasion.
Well, you're kind of out of that excuse when you hit that.
Yes, I mean, that is expressly what Article I is meant in the War Powers Resolution: is meant to prevent commitment of significant ground troops to a region without having congressional input, without having basically the people approving that through their legislators.
The difficult with that, the difficulty with that clearly is you put your troops at risk.
So, in order to do that, you have to move to the northernmost or furthestmost boundary, and then you have to work your way back.
In other words, you have to isolate it.
That simply takes time.
And again, anytime you put boots on the ground, you enhance the risk.
If I can also go back to what Margaret said, in advance of that, there clearly is intelligence that has to be provided to your partners if they are, in fact, going to execute some operations.
That's all part of it as well.
And again, you want to be able to do the diligence and the vetting in advance so you know what your partners are all about.
Because you're going to share, in this particular case, we're going to share with the Israelis and they're going to share it with us in advance of any strike or any operation.
And in a sign of that distance, shortly after the 15-point plan was submitted to Iran, the country's military mocked the attempts for peace.
Speaking in a pre-recorded video that aired on state TV, an Iranian military spokesman put it like this: quote, Have your internal conflicts reached the point where you are negotiating with yourselves?
He added, quote, our first and last word has been the same from day one, and it will stay that way.
Someone like us will never come to terms with someone like you.
What the press has reported is the person that President Trump has in mind is the current Speaker of Parliament, Mohamed Baghdad Khalibov, who is former senior Revolutionary Guard commander, close advisor to Musha Bakhmani.
I actually, by happenstance, met Khalibov in Davos at the World Economic Forum in 2008.
And he's someone who kind of in his heart wants to be a modern strongman, but no individual can change the ideology of this system.
I think that this is a regime which understands that if they open up to the world, that's actually an existential threat to them because their ability to control Iran is much easier when you don't have the forces of international capitalism and civil society.
And it's a regime which for 47 years has been premised on hostility towards the United States.
And they actually fear normalization with the United States more than they fear conflict with the United States.
I mean, we're getting energized about the fact that we're deploying forces, but both the MU and the individual response force, the IRF, or what's called the Ready Brigade from the 82nd Airborne Division, they're relatively small forces and they can't move around a lot.
They have specific missions that it's understandable why they would go in first, but this is a first effort.
You know, the 82nd deploys worldwide with that ready brigade deploys within 18 hours.
They're wheels up out of Fort Bragg or Fort Liberty now.
They conduct forcible entry.
What that means is they parachute in somewhere, conducting an airborne assault to seize key terrain, like an airfield or a weapon site or critical infrastructure.
But they can't move around a lot, and neither can the Marine Expeditionary Unit.
Once they go ashore or drop in from the sky, they are stationary.
And a long time ago, I heard a comment that if you forget logistics in war, you're going to lose.
Now, these two forces may be the entry-level forces, but it indicates that there's plans for others to come in, but those others coming in will come in very, very slowly.
When you're talking about the rest of the 82nd Airborne Division, still, that's a relatively small force, about 15 to 18,000 soldiers, depending on how many you bring in with the entire division.
In a land that's as big as Iran, with the kind of terrain they have and the geography, even supported by a massive number of overhead aircraft and Tomahawk missiles, these two forces can form a lodgement, as the military calls it, but they can't do a whole lot more until more follow-on forces come in.
So I'm scratching my head trying to figure out what these two, actually three, two Muse and one brigade are going to do.
Now, the 82nd Airborne has also deployed their command post, which indicates to me that more are going to come in.
But first of all, where are you going to put them as they all pull together?
Because you can't put them immediately into Iran.
They don't have the logistics support to go in there.
Where are they going to go?
What are their missions going to be?
What are the following follow-on forces?
Because these three forces, two Mus and a brigade, are designed to open a fight, but not to finish one.
And so we're thinking about putting forces, a lot of forces on the ground.
This is an opening gambit, and it's interesting that it's taking place while we're still bombing and conducting peace talks in Pakistan.
So I'm going to guess that the president is thinking today the same thing he thought the day the war began, which is that the overwhelming military power that the U.S. is sending, has sent to the Gulf and has been using against Iran will force Iran to make concessions that it now says it's not prepared to make and that the U.S. will get a settlement that's acceptable,
that meets basic minimum U.S. demands.
I think he still believes that.
As he keeps saying, we're winning this war.
And by conventional military standards, he's right.
The problem is that the military campaign has consolidated power in Iran around the worst of the worst.
The hardest line people in Iran, tougher in many ways than the people who were running the country before, are now in charge and they don't want to make a deal.
So I think truly we just have to be cautious over the next few days and see how this proposal for peace, the 15 points that Trump has sent, how that's received by Iran.
There's a new deadline.
Trump has said he's going to wait five days to get an Iranian answer.
So that clock tolls Saturday, as I understand it.
So there's not much time left.
But as the Wall Street Journal said in an editorial this morning, even Donald Trump today doesn't know the answer to your question, Joe.
I don't think he knows how this plane is going to land.
President Trump's given them this 15-point plan is an exploding offer.
He said that he's been pretty adamant.
It's only a couple days to see if this is real or not.
It was even some way to negotiate on the other side.
Of course, they're working the Pakistan angle with the field marshal that he's very close to.
Some people have called it, I think it's been referred to as a prenup.
Interesting.
Eric Bowling, the markets, where are the markets?
The center of gravity of this war, shifted from Tehran as the center of the of this war.
And, of course, our military is doing a magnificent job of defanging, declawing.
This operational continues every night.
They have not backed off that a second.
And, as the general said, we've got um, you know, we've got a ready brigade, ready brigade from the 82ND.
You've got two marine expedit expeditionary units, one on the Tripoli, one on the Uss Boxer, coming from San Diego and um Japan, so the Pacific fleet, via North Arabian Sea.
I think they'll be on station by friday.
People are talking about you'll have assets.
I think there was a very astute observation that those are people that take and hold.
But uh, they're implying that there's even a bigger plan.
And back of that Eric, what are global capital markets, and particularly commodities like oil?
So when the the kind of deal, the five-day pause leaked mark, oil markets started to move down last night, into the night, into the morning um, we got as low as six dollars lower a barrel.
That's a massive move uh, over the course of a few hours.
And then, this was very interesting, this headline that came out this morning, Iran saying no deal, like literally, their words were, no deal went from down six to down about three dollars a barrel.
That's a four trillion dollar market that you're moving in in 60 to 90 seconds.
Huge, huge.
So the the markets are very, very jittery on every news headline.
That's relevant because, far as the you know the, the Iranian State, they don't call it the State NEWS Agency, but State NEWS Agency.
They're working the American refs and I call them they're working the refs.
I call them American refs meaning they're working the American people because they know that anything they say can jack oil prices up and it's falling into.
You know, like we've said the, the administration's achilles is higher oil prices.
Going into a midterm election.
The DCC this is really interesting Steve, I don't know if you saw this.
Yesterday the DCC uh deployed a massive ad campaign against Republicans and Trump, specifically around gas prices.
Remember during the Biden administration when gas prices rose to five dollars a gallon, the highest on record?
Yeah, remember you used to see those little on gas pumps around the country, those little stickers placed next to the price, and it's Biden's picture with a finger pointing to the gas price, saying, I did that.
DCC is doing the same thing.
Now they're using Trump and dc Republicans and they're saying I did that, they're pointing to this, the same campaign.
So they the DCC realizes that the Achilles is is the gas price.
The Iranians realize that the Achilles is is the gas price and so any little kind of comment out of uh, the Iranians is is jacking up oil prices.
I think that dovestails with something that you and I talked about weeks ago, where we said this, these Middle Eastern countries are saying they're they're Pro-Trump and they're supporting Trump and they want a higher oil price.
If you need more evidence of that, look no further than the Saudis yesterday confirming what we talked about weeks ago, where they came out and said, you know what, Trump, we really want you to finish the job.
We don't want the job half done.
You know what that means?
They want this to continue on going forward longer and higher prices because like I said, all those Middle Eastern oil producing countries are benefiting greatly from this war dividend.
And people, because remember, you do have people just trying to hedge trying to think this thing through what's going to happen.
You also have a lot of speculators.
Now you got guys jumping in these polymarkets.
You got people jumping in More on the speculative side.
But the question is going to be: is there really anybody on the other end?
There are elements, and always keep in mind, President Trump has shattered what was the senior command of the Revolutionary Guard in the Mulas, right?
All the way up to the Ayatollah.
There are competing factions, you know, in the regime of it, like they're competing factions.
You got Lindsey Graham on one hand, right?
And you have more moderate voices on the other.
You got Lindsey Graham going on Fox every night and cheerleading for a ground invasion of Tehran, kind of the Greeks as Xenophon's march upcountry.
That's what he wants immediately.
But you got it even more so there, Eric.
So they're putting out videos of saying, oh, Trump's talking to himself and will never concede.
And the media picks it up.
You've got others, particularly other nations like Turkey and Pakistan, that are trying to be intermediaries here.
So as you sit there as a trader, because President Trump is very attuned to markets, particularly the fact of this commodity market that is oil, underpins, I mean, what have we said on here a million times in President Trump's first term in the run up to 2020, even in the 16 campaign, 2020, his magnificent economic recovery that came to fruition in 2019?
What he's talking about here, the entire Trump economic plan, all of it.
When you talk about the cuts and what you're doing on supply-side tax cuts and tariffs and bringing manufacturing back, all of it.
From the very first time that Trump started to run, the underpinning and foundational element of Trump economics is, wait for it, full spectrum energy dominance, right?
Not energy independence.
Remember, he didn't want to do energy dominance.
And that's driven, as you know, Eric, by $40 barrel or $50 barrel of oil, right?
He always understood.
He's got these videos now, Hibbs, talking about the Persian Gulf back in the 1980s and 1990s.
He's always understood how important this is.
Given that, given that the fact that the commander in chief and the lead negotiator is very sensitive to this, particularly in his current economic program, which he's turning around a disaster that he inherited, what do you think markets are telling him, sir?
First of all, to understand where oil is going, we have to understand who the players are.
The IRGC are the ones this morning who came out and said no deal, which rallied oil prices $3 a barrel in 90 seconds.
So are they calling the shots?
Is this mullah infrastructure?
Is it the one-legged lunatic calling shots?
No one knows.
The short-term effects, oil up, stocks down.
Oil down, stocks up.
Evidenced by today, a massive move in the stock market based on the direction of oil and where it was going.
So that's the short term.
But Trump knows that's only the short term.
The long term is where are gas prices?
Because that's what the American people care about.
They don't give a flying hoot what NVIDIA stock is.
They care about what their gas price is now, not next month or next, right now.
And the problem is it's very acute.
These acute moving, in other words, the retailers, gas and retailers move their prices up immediately when they see the opportunity, when they see a high oil price.
When the news is talking about higher oil prices going forward, they move that corner.
I guarantee you, if you look on the corner, you're going to see a higher gas price than you saw a week ago or even a day ago, even if oil starts coming down.
So they raise them very quickly and they're very slow to move them down.
Problem with that is Steve, is that going into an election, you're going to see higher gas prices.
It translates immediately gas diesel, jet fuel, immediately into higher inflation.
And they know it's a very sensitive topic right now, especially with the way we ripped Biden for his high gas prices and inflation for the past four years prior to Trump 2.0.
One last thought very quickly.
Mark Tiessen was on FOX, I don't know what you think about that guy.
Guy has no business commenting on oil at all.
He recommended Trump, take Carg Island, just take it, own it and and you'll he said he'll you will forever own the Iranian oil uh distribution system.
That's bs.
That is the worst possible.
You'll get marines killed, you get people killed.
You'll have oil prices 200 a barrel because the Iranians aren't going to sit back and let the Americans occupy Carg Island.
It's just not going to happen.
They're they're, he's unrealistic.
So a lot of misinformation, a lot of confusion out there again.
The the the sooner Trump resolves this, the better, and I hope they're on a path to doing that.
If you um, if you look at this, I know you got a bounce.
Uh, you're going out to see Uh, to join our team out there, as everybody's heading out today, kind of a travel day uh, although we are live at five o'clock uh today uh, in Cpac, or Five for the five o'clock show, and I think John, Someone's gonna do the six um president Trump though, is in deal mode.
There's no doubt about it.
Right, he's very serious talk about the 15 points, the president, but he's he's, he's searching for a solution here.
He's got, he's got a military solution, still got the lever, he's got combat troops heading in, he's still got all the firepower.
They're rotating in another carrier.
Uh, I know you got a bounce, you got a minute.
What should people look for in the next uh, couple of days, as we go up to this other deadline?
Well, I think it's both positioning both sides um, both sides.
So Trump is obviously gonna ready the airborne.
I'm also hearing that Trump said today, or truth last night or this morning, that we're gonna get navy um escorts into the, into the Strait Of Hormuz as soon as possible, meaning likely, meaning within days.
Those will all be relevant.
I don't know that we're gonna actually see a lot of oil flowing through there um I, I would.
I would hesitate to believe anything the IRGC is putting out as to where the negotiations are, and I think on our side, I think the show of strength is is a wise move, showing the Iranians just how how much worse it could get for them if they don't cut a deal.
So deal deal can't happen sooner on my plague I want.
I want to see low prices.
I want to see a 40 barrel of oil again in a two dollar and 25 cent gallon of gasoline.
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You know the neighborhood.
They have shattered the command and control.
And remember, the Israelis did more of kind of the decapitation move.
The Americans focused on more of the technological command and control.
But it's pretty evident.
And the president reiterates this.
The chairman of the Joint Chiefs reiterates this.
The CENCOM reiterates this.
We have to a degree shattered their traditional, you know, Ayatollah Mullah Revolutionary Guard.
I think somebody told me down to the brigade level.
And so President Trump, the first issue he's got to deal with is like, who is even in charge to make a deal with?
And that's why the Pakistani field, you know, the Pakistanis very well.
Lovely, lovely, lovely folks.
The Pakistani field marshal, who is very close to President Trump, has offered up and offered for them to actually host this.
You've got the Arab Council, the Gulf Council, their guys have come together and said, we want to help.
We want to figure something out.
And you've got the Turks.
So from an intelligence point of view, how are they framing this with the president now?
And how are they getting this type of operational intelligence to basically give the commander in chief who is open to do a deal with someone if it makes sense and if he achieves his objectives, which are the non-actual kinetic objectives?
How do they frame this for him of exactly who in the hell he should be talking to to get a deal that can actually be executed inside Iran, sir?
Well, look, I think you put your finger on something really, really important.
The Iranians are continuing to resist by moving to this completely decentralized command system where all the pieces just keep fighting, okay?
But now you want them to act as a unified whole and you want somebody to be able to speak for the government.
Not only is it hard to figure out who that is, but there may not in fact be agreement inside Iran on who that is.
It's not just like we can't figure it out.
They don't know either.
And then, of course, you've laid out the Turks, the Pakistanis.
I mean, all of these people have their own interests and have history, have a history of being incredibly duplicitous with us, saying one thing very, very clearly.
But on the duplicity side, because this is why we have Bowling on here, one of his most brilliant insights is say, hey, look, don't think these guys that are begging for us to start escorting destroy, you know, getting destroyers and escorting things through there.
Don't think they're actually pulling for you.
Their business models don't work at Trump's full spectrum energy dominance with a forehandle in front of this.
And of course, there's some folks in West Texas not crazy about $40 oral either, but with Trump's idea of full spectrum energy dominance, there's not a guy in the Persian Gulf that signed up for that.
They love it at a buck 40, right?
At $140.
And the Turks, just take a second and how duplicitous they've been with us in the region overall for many, many, many decades, sir.
Look, all of these guys are going to lie to your face.
Let's just be clear, right?
They've all got their own interests.
They're all going to sit down and swear loyalty and tell you that they're your brother and all of this, and we're going to drink a lot of tea.
And they're going to tell us all kinds of wonderful things.
And then they're going to walk right out of the room and do exactly the opposite.
It's not a question of them reneging on the agreement.
The agreement actually means nothing at all to them, right?
We have this weird American sense that, okay, we had a negotiation, we had a deal.
That means we actually agreed and intend to follow through on it.
That is not the norm in the Middle East.
The norm in the Middle East is we talked and swore that we were each other's brothers, and then you stabbed me in the back the second I walk out the door.
I mean, I've sat in meetings with the Pakistanis where we were going to go raid a terrorist safe house.
By the time we got to the terrorist safe house, the same guys we had just talked to had called the guys in the safe house and told them to get out of Dodge, right?
That is the norm.
So you have to understand that.
It doesn't mean you have to be taken advantage of, but you have to force them to come to an agreement.
You have to, you can't rely upon their word.
You have to rely upon the fact that you put them in a position where they don't have any choice.
One of the critical issues, obviously, here is your human intelligence.
When you're sitting in the room with the sheikh and the sheikh is telling you one thing, what you really need is the guy in the sheikh's office who tells you what was the meeting that they had before they came in the room with you, what he's really saying, what he really intends to do.
And then, of course, the same guy can tell you afterward what they did.
That comes down to human intel.
You know, you can't see that with a satellite.
You're probably not going to pick that up in an intercept because the sheikh's not so stupid.
He's talking over a phone about it.
And I mean, you know, my position on that.
Our human intelligence is really, really weak.
We don't have the guys we need inside there telling us, okay, great.
This is what he's going to say.
And this is what's really happening behind it.
So you're in a little bit of a minefield and you're in the dark.
I don't want to put words in your mouth, but let me just respond to this.
You would counsel then the president if you were advising him now and all these different perturbations of how to actually see if we can't figure something out here now that the president feels he's completed or near completion some of the most important military objectives of this military operation.
You would counsel him to say, yeah, let's get the couple of these Marine expeditionary units in place on station in the North Arabian Sea or Gulf of Oman.
Let's get a brigade of the 82nd Airborne and maybe bring in a couple of three other assets because the only thing they're going to respond to is the hammer.
If they know we got the hammer and we're prepared to use the hammer, whatever that is, and I'm far from advocating ground troops, but whatever that hammer is, that's the way it's like a come along.
That's the way you get their attention and keep them to basically maybe get to a position of a deal.
Identify first off who can actually make a deal, get to a deal, and then make sure that you have something that you can actually execute upon, sir.
I would recommend all of those things, although, like you, my strong preference would be that we not go down this road to use ground troops.
There are lots of other levers we have.
Let's keep in mind, whether we take Carg Island or don't take Carg Island, the Iranians will never export another barrel of oil as long as the United States Navy sits outside the Gulf of Hormuz.
They can run around up in the Persian Gulf all they want.
They're not going anywhere.
So we can counsel them.
And look, and they effectively cannot challenge us in the high seas.
So that's baseline.
But listen, I mean, you know, I don't want to make this sound like I'm the only guy who's ever done this, but like in the run-up to the Iraq war, when we were leaning on guys to pick a side or the other, at some point in those negotiations, talking to Lieutenant General, whoever it is, we're saying, look, we're prepared to do the following for you, hand you X number of dollars and so forth.
And the other side of the coin is, General, if you don't come over to our side, we're also prepared to put a J Dam through the building and have it where you work and have it explode on your desk.
So let's pick a side here.
I mean, at some point, you have to have that hammer in your hand.
You run around the Middle East just asking people to be nice to you and is a losing proposition.
Speaking of being nice to you, you know, the thing I've advocated for, you can blockade, quarantine.
There's no reason for the CCP to get, there's no reason for them to get any cash.
And Sam's 100% correct.
Just in the Gulf of Oman, even pull it back to the North Arabian Sea, the United States Navy can stop, can quarantine, just like they were doing in Venezuela.
Stop any vessel coming out there and either turn it around or just seize it.
Hey, guess what?
This is ours, crews under arrest.
Going to put a couple of uh uh warrant officers on here as the commanding officers and you're going to pull it over here and drop, anchor this, this is ours okay, uh all.
Also, in addition and i'd love your comments we're going to hold you to the break, sam.
Dubai, everybody's running around in influencers in Dubai and you get them all the running around in bikinis and they're, you know, it's everybody in the world.
It's the greatest place in the world and all these westerners want to buy places.
Dubai man, it's the new Switzerland.
It's so fantastic.
Maybe not that fantastic this week, but it's a pirate cove.
It's like torture during the during when the, when the pirates, when the pirates down the Caribbean not the movie When The Pirate you know, Captain Morgan and those guys told the most powerful instrument in the world, the Royal NAVY hey, put it where the sun don't shine.
They had a place to monetize everything they stole.
Right, that was in Toruga.
Dubai is nothing but a modern Toruga and people should know our greatest ally, or the guy that really steps up and punches above his Way, has always been Mbz.
Right, he's kind of a warrior anyway, one of these desert warriors.
He's always been the guy and he's, I think personally, I think people, it's pretty common knowledge.
President Trump likes to cut his jib and he's over.
They were cutting a deal for the Chinese government's party up a port there, but I digress.
But he's kind of in charge now of all that emirates this.
They're going to try.
They haven't cut the money off, they're threatening that but.
But the Iran still does all their money laundering and gets their cash from the behind the scenes sanctions through Dubai and through the banks that the Arabs control, these kind of Islamic financial institutions.
Sam, i'm gonna hold you to come back, but my point is there's so many different elements and touch points that if we're serious, we can clamp down on these guys and actually force, use them as a forcing function.
First off their money and their oil, because their oil is just what they're going to turn to cash.
You could squeeze them so hard that you force to the top the cream of the crap, and then president Trump knows who he has to deal with short break.
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Sam Fattis, I think there's breaking news now coming across the wire.
And Iran rejects U.S. war proposal.
Iran sets five strict conditions, no talks unless all.
Full ceasefire, no future war guarantees, reparations demanded, end to all regional conflicts, control over strait of Hormuz.
We say in the deal business, folks, the bid and the ask, there's a little gap.
I don't even know if these guys are legit.
It is coming across the wire.
It may be that mouthy young guy that came on on the video, and who knows if he's got any stroke.
But you can see from President Trump's 15 points to what they're talking about because that is like this war never took place.
Fattis spent his career over there in service to his nation.
Bowling's been in the pits, was a traitor every day for, I think, 12, 14 years.
That's the kind of reality you need, this audience needs.
As you think it through, I'm not sitting here saying you got to think it one way or the other.
Understand we're in it now.
What is that great scene in 12 o'clock high when Gregory Peck is the general that replaces the original general who really loved his troops and the troops loved him?
He gets up there and says, hey, I'm not here to hear your, this is the beginning days of World War II.
He says, I'm not here to listen to you why we fight.
I'm here to tell you we're in this fight and we've got to win it.
That's all I'm interested in.
There is no substitute for victory as we're in it now.
Just understand, it's going to get really, really, really ugly.
Just anybody telling you otherwise, all these people going fox, blowing smoke up you, they ain't out on that front line and they ain't got kids out there either.
They have no skin in the game.
Zero.
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