Episode 5191: Attacks Continue ON Oil In The Strait Of Hormuz
Stephen K. Bannon accuses Biden of using an "Auto Pen" for 92% of executive orders, threatening perjury charges, while Julie Kelly exposes jury nullification in blue cities crippling ICE enforcement. Meanwhile, Iran’s Ramadan missile strikes on the Strait of Hormuz—disrupting 20% of global oil—escalate tensions, with Dr. Bradley Thayer warning of prolonged U.S. naval deployments amid minefields and drone threats. Polls show 60–90% oppose vaccine mandates, yet the White House ignores them, risking midterm losses. Texas AG candidate Mays Middleton frames his anti-transgender policies as a "spiritual battle," contrasting with rival Chip Roy’s Trump opposition, while MyPillow’s Mike Lindell pivots to factory sales amid geopolitical warnings of dollar collapse and CCP-Iran threats. [Automatically generated summary]
He said, quote, any document signed by sleepy Joe Biden with the Auto Pen, which was approximately 92% of them, is hereby terminated and of no further force or effect.
He says the auto pen is not allowed to be used if approval is not specifically given by the President of the United States.
He also says in that post, quote, I am hereby canceling all executive orders and anything else that was not directly signed by crooked Joe Biden because the people who operated the auto pen did so illegally.
He goes on to say in that post, Joe Biden was not involved in the auto pen process.
And if he says he was, he'll be brought up on charges of perjury.
He says, thank you for your attention to this matter.
Of course, this was just posted moments ago to Truth Social.
Again, the president, as we know, following him, is at the golf course.
So, of course, we're hoping to confirm and get any more information about this, Celicia.
In this hour, Dr. Thera, we're going to get a battle assessment, particularly about the straits of Hermuz, where gasoline, oil prices are going to go, all of that.
Jeffrey Hunter's joining us.
We're going to talk about polling, about some real polling that President Trump ought to be seeing for the Mahab, for the Mahab movement, and much, much more in this hour.
I want to start with Julie Kelly.
So, Julie, I'm totally confused now, but you're here.
And you're going to come back because we have other topics to talk about with you this afternoon.
but I grabbed you on phone because NBC News reported last night breaking DOJ Shell's investigation to Biden's autopin use after it failed to find an applicable criminal statute sources say.
Then Julie Kelly, you enlighten me.
And if Denver can get it up with a long Twitter post that explains something that we're seeing here in Dallas, in Texas, jury nullifications and actually the training sessions for people to go on juries for jury nullification on anything to do with ICE, anything to do with mass deportations.
I think you're going to see that expand to things with Islam, HB1 visas.
It's rampant here.
Nobody wants to talk about it.
What are you saying about DC?
Julie Kelly joins us now by phone.
Walk us through your, because a lot of people thought, well, maybe Pam Bondi, Judge Janine, maybe they're not as aggressive as they need to be on this.
I mean, we see prosecutors here who have brought or tried to bring cases against demonstrators, rioters, protesters, whatever word you want to use, against individuals interfering in ICE operations, assaulting police officers, federal officers.
And they can't get either grand jury indictments or once they get it before a judge or a trial jury in these blue cities, and not even blue cities.
I mean, it's pretty pervasive.
They can't get a conviction.
But this is especially insidious in Washington, D.C., where you have a jury pool made up.
And this also includes grand jury pool.
So a grand jury is larger than a trial jury.
It's anywhere, I think, between 16 to 24 individuals.
They serve for an extended amount of time.
So I believe it could be 12 to 18 months.
And they show up a day or two a week to consider charges that the government, in this case, the Trump DOG, DOJ and Janine Pirro, want to bring.
And they consider those cases, and then they can sign off on indictment.
Now, my covering the J6 cases, your case, Peter Navarro, the Trump case in Washington, D.C., these grand juries acted as nothing more than a rubber stamp.
So did the judges.
I mean, think about this, Steve.
The DOJ, the Biden DOJ, had a 100% conviction rate in J6 trials.
Not a single J-6er walked out of a courtroom after a trial, completely exonerated, acquitted on all counts.
Yet now, Janine Pirro and the Trump DOJ is struggling to get A basic indictment, criminal indictment against ICE protesters, against political, former political officials, and now what appears to be stalled by an Auto Penn investigation.
So, this is a real crisis that the DOJ is dealing with.
And now they're teaching, they're having seminars on jury nullification for individual jurors.
This is going to, I'd say this: Austin, Dallas, Chicago, Minneapolis, New York City, Washington, D.C. You can't get, if they roll you up there, you're done.
And law enforcement can't is not going to be able to basically enforce the law, particularly immigration law.
Julie, if this is the fact, what do you recommend we do about it?
And unfortunately, and I don't even know how you could get a change of venue for a grand jury.
So, but now, Janine Piero did tweet this morning that the investigation was ongoing.
I'm not really sure if that's a safe face measure, if it's actually true, if they are considering their options, but they are not going to get criminal indictments.
And in the rare instance they do, you are not going to have a DC jury convict anyone brought before them by the Trump Department of Justice.
You know, it may be that they've still got civil, I mean, I think maybe civilly and unwind these executive orders and undo the pardons.
We'll figure all that out.
But you've nailed something we need to talk about and we need to get an action plan to work around it.
There's not a fair justice system in this country, not even close.
And it's really going to, even with the Supreme Court ruling yesterday, Julie, on immigration, you can just tell it's going to be very tough in these big metropolitan areas.
Julie, you got to bounce.
We're going to get you back tonight.
You've got a lot of stuff to catch up on.
Where do they go for your sub stack and all everything you're putting out on Twitter?
I just was notified after I said that that I believe, if my producer is correct, I don't know if we have your footage, that a tanker in the Straits of Hermuz was just hit by a couple of rockets or a couple of missiles.
We're going to pull some footage so we can do that.
Just happened 60 seconds ago, or at least we found out about it.
Your battle assessment right now, let's leave the politics and the grand strategy aside.
Today at 4:30, also, programming notes, CENTCOM is going to give, I think it's Admiral Cooper is going to give a, and he, and I tell people, if you want to see the military operation in its detail, Admiral Cooper and the CENTCOM team is delivering that 4:30 today.
Real America's World, so cover it.
If it rolls into our five o'clock show, we'll obviously cover it in the QA.
Your battle assessment so far, particularly Straits of Hormuz, I think Brent is now at $84 a barrel.
West Texas, I think is 76 West Texas.
Crude is a good rule of thumb for America, and Brent is for the world.
I should note, and there was a chart the other day, I think at Kobe Si, one of these great sites that covers all the Wall Street details, that since BB had gone to Mar-a-Lago, oil at the time of the beginning of the strike was up 33%.
That shows you how efficient the world's oil markets are.
They are quite efficient markets about information.
So in the conduct of the war, we really have a new front, and that's the Gulf.
And the Strait of Hormuz is a key point, obviously, or 21 miles, obviously, at its narrowest point.
You have about 4% of world shipping by tonnage in the Gulf now.
So well over 3,000 vessels are either in the Gulf or seeking to transit it from the other side.
The oil that's there has to get out, as well as the natural gas to serve world energy markets.
And Steve, as you well know, as the audience does too, President Trump is moving towards tasking the Navy, the surface fleet, obviously, to escort those vessels through Straits of Hormuz.
So that's going to be a significant obligation for the Navy, one that they're fully capable of meeting, but it still is going to be very dangerous and complicated due to the threat of mines, the threat of drones, the threat of cruise missiles, the threat of air attack, and other means that the Iranians might pose to shut down or to attribute shipping in the Gulf to drive up the price, right?
They want to hurt the natural gas market and they also want to hurt clearly the oil market in a way of inflicting pain on us, right?
That's one of the ways that they're retaliating against us, as well as the Gulf shakedoms and Saudi Arabia.
In other fronts, very notably, Steve, the Kurdish front, right?
Before I get to the Kurds, I want to go back to this because they had to make a strategic calculation.
They had to determine during Ramadan to actually draw everybody into this fight and to really go after the oil and the gas.
They had to make a strategic calculation of going after Muslim countries and going after as hard as they possibly could with what they had of drones and missiles at the time to do both UAE, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia.
And I think even a little bit of Kuwait and Bahrain, Bahrain particularly, but Bahrain's always been kind of the odd lot there.
Talk to me about that.
Give me a minute because this is not an insignificant strategic move.
The audience understand that.
Instead of doing, and remember, Saudi and these guys have hated them.
They hate each other, Arabs versus the Persians.
But they have had a kind of a rapprochement of at least the last couple of years.
They made a strategic calculation to actually engage in kinetic warfare, the Arab states during Ramadan, and particularly focus on going after terminals, going after, I mean, going after the oil assets at Qatar's gas fields, which they're a joint partner in.
And the Straits of Hormuz is how they basically get the cash money from the CCP.
So give me a couple of minutes on that before we go to break.
Back then, back then, Ramadan wasn't like those, those were those, that was during the secular phase of Arab nationalism.
That's not today.
You're talking apples and oranges.
Back then, you had Nasser, you had the United Arab Republic, which was both Syria and Egypt.
These guys were Muslims, but they're not Muslims like today.
I mean, Muslims today, Ramadan's like everything.
Back then, these guys were, and they were very upfront, were Arab nationalists first, were Muslims second, right?
So this is a very different, this is a very much more sensitive time where they specifically, during Ramadan, attacked their other Muslim nations, particularly Sunni nations with large Shiite working class populations, correct?
Well, it shows the interest of the state really trumps the interest of the religion in this instance.
So when we think about Hormuz, I think we need to also recognize that this is going to be a very long process because as the war ends, I think we need to go back to praying mantis.
To go back to the escort that the U.S. Navy did in the mid and late 1980s to ensure that, again, oil and gas flew out came out of the Dr. Thayer.
No ships moving through the Strait of Hormuz right now.
Instead, there are ships being attacked.
This morning here off the coast of Oman.
There was yet another vessel that was targeted by Iranian missiles.
The Oman Navy got a call to respond to assist this vessel that had been targeted.
That takes the number of ships targeted by Iran in the Strait of Hormuz to past four now, and they are continuing with their strikes to anyone who comes near this de facto border that they have set up not to pass, not to attempt to try and cross the Strait of Hormuz.
What many ships have been trying to do over the last few days is actually turn off their signals and then try and get through.
We also learned today, Anna, that two shipping giants decided to halt bookings completely and actually began diverting vessels away from the Strait of Hormuz, trying to find different routes around.
But this is such a vital route here.
You know, 20% of the world's oil passes through here.
And so it is crucial.
President Trump is still trying to find a way to actually escort some of these vessels through.
He's saying U.S. Navy could try and do that, but that will be a huge task.
And if Iran are willing to target any flag ship in the vicinity, they could also potentially attack those U.S. Navy vessels if they try and escort any ships through the Strait.
I was a young naval officer on a combatant that was in and out of the Straits of Hormuz.
It's not as easy as people think.
It's a very difficult sea detail, very difficult to have your fire control solutions, your radars, just a very hostile environment.
That's without hostile fire.
So Dr. Thayer, here's what we're going to do.
We're going to bifurcate your hit.
I'm going to get you in a little later.
I got Dr. Jeffrey Tucker who's going to come up.
We're going to talk about some polling.
I think this audience needs to talk about.
But then we're going to talk about the AG race in this runoff in Texas.
But this happened kind of while we're speaking and another, I think, suicide attack going on.
This is quite different than we've seen in other of these situations, particularly even when we had the Gulf War, et cetera, where you kind of locked down that piece.
Why is the oil and gas assets in the Persian Gulf?
They're in play now.
Why is this throw a whole different item into the strategic calculation here?
Their point is to cut this off, increase the costs of exiting gas or oil from the Persian Gulf to inflict pain on Americans at the end of the day by having increased costs, as well as our allies and other partners.
So Reuters is reporting this was a suicide attack at an Iraqi port against a tanker.
And that underscores, Steve, the fact that it's not just the mines, it's not just aircraft, it's not just drones and cruise missiles.
There's also another threat coming from suicide attacks like the coal.
If you remember the attack against the USS Coal in 2000, where a suicide attack did horrific, that was by boat.
I also want to get more information on this because you're seeing the oil markets already react to these hits and to the insurance issues.
And I think the Navy, as you know, I think there's been some sort of talk about the Navy actually escorting vessels in and out.
So that's, I think if you think you got a third of the fleet over there now, you're probably going to have more of the fleet over if we're going to do this.
The polling began as, from my point of view, in reaction to a lot of fake polls I saw coming out in January and February, that I looked at the questions and I thought these are biased polls.
What do people really think about issues of medical freedom and vaccine mandates and the right to access holistic treatments and issues of medical freedom in general?
So Leslie Manoukian at the Health Freedom Defense Fund and I got together and put together 30 questions that we thought were objective and unbiased just to find out what people really think.
Is it really true that nobody cares about this stuff?
Well, Zogby ran the poll for us and they were shocked at the results.
Super majorities.
We're talking about like 80% and sometimes even 90% for these hardcore issues of medical freedom that people feel very passionate about, Republicans, independents, and even Democrats at a lower level, but not that much of a gap.
The poll is overwhelming.
I'm still processing the results.
We have many, many charts.
I have three separate PDF embeds.
You can see all the questions and see how unbiased they are and all the results with complete charts that we posted just yesterday.
Tony is, with McLaughlin, has been kind of the lead pollster for the president.
Now, this all goes back in time.
Let's make sure we get this is where all of a sudden there was all this stuff that, hey, to make sure that we win the midterms, we don't want Bobby doing anything else, right?
And a lot of people say, hey, we want Bobby doing everything.
The president just had that magnificent Roosevelt room where he actually took the lead in front of Bobby on the vaccines and getting to the early vaccines.
The president telling these heart-rendering stories had people.
And I said, man, he's not just providing air cover.
He's kind of the lead tank now.
That totally kind of changed with some of this polling.
Steve, there is no question that what you just said is absolutely true.
I know all the players and who's talking to whom and who's misleading him.
And I'm telling you that this deception that's taking place is potentially very, very costly.
It could lose the midterms because the Mahaw Coalition has broad and passionate public support, as this poll reveals.
And anybody can take a look at it and see, we're talking about 60, 70, 80%.
Like people don't think that you should have vaccine mandates, that schools should be able to deny education to kids who are unvaccinated.
They don't believe that the pharmaceutical industry should be indemnified against harms.
They think a lot of people were harmed by the shots.
This is a serious issue these voters turn out.
The poll we ran was of registered voters, as I say, broken down in thirds, Republicans, Democrats, and Independents, showing broad and deeply held, passionate beliefs.
These are people that turn out on Election Day.
So when they're telling Trump, oh, you have to forget about these issues.
These are political losers.
That is not true.
These were two terribly biased polls that were run in December and January.
They've been, you know, people running all over the White House going, oh, look, we need to get rid of Bobby and turn him into a salesman for good food and exercise and drop all issues of medical freedom.
This is completely wrong, as this very good poll shows.
And as I say, I invite anybody to look at it.
The White House is, if they believe these old polls, they are in the process of making potentially a catastrophic error, Steve, because as you know, this war is not exactly popular with the public.
And in fact, a lot of Republicans are confused and even demoralized by this.
But the issues represented by the sort of Make America Healthy Again group are extremely important and will get people out.
And dropping them endangers the status of the party at the midterm.
I do want to hold you over for a second because it thinks this is so important to talk about.
Because, you know, we say in war, and you're seeing this in the Iranian major military operation, the enemy gets a vote.
Well, the same with the Maha movement.
Big Pharma gets a vote.
I think Big Pharma is trying to get a vote here, but I couldn't agree with Dr. Hunter Moore that the coalition is so important and such a winner for us.
Remember during the height of those years of the pandemic and the vaccine mandates, Dr. Tucker and his team were on all the time.
Dr. Tucker, we're kind of waiting for this for you to do this poll.
Just give me a minute because we're jammed for time, but just take a minute or two and just tell me, walk me through why your poll is deeper, questions are better.
I personally wanted to know what the public thinks.
I mean, does the public really favor these kind of vaccine managers?
They really want a whole industry indemnified against harms?
Are they really just nonchalant about the impositions that we all went through in this period, the injuries and everything else?
So I wanted to know.
So we contacted the pollster Zogby and said, we want a real poll of registered voters, people who are concerned in care that's cross-partisan.
And we wanted in-depth, real people answering in-depth questions.
We put together 30 questions.
We sussed it out over several days to make sure they were all balanced and fair and didn't have what I've seen in a lot of polls, which were tiny words to game the results, right?
To tap into that social acceptability bias or give you scare terms that hint what the answers should be.
We didn't want any of that.
So we went through all the questions concerning vaccine mandates, access to holistic treatment, individualization of industry, vaccine mandates for children attending school.
We covered the works and the results came in.
And as I say, the pollster himself was shocked.
He said he rarely, if ever, sees supermajorities in anything.
And it took me a better part of a day even to process the results.
And as I said, they're all posted there.
They will blow your mind.
And the important thing about it is that it made me realize I'm not crazy, right?
I'm not some nutty radical.
What I think is what 80% of the public thinks.
It's just the White House was not getting this message because of these distorted polls.
So this, that's what.
And I knew these results were going to go viral, and they have.
I mean, yeah, it's definitely going to rock the West Wing.
What it means is that Bobby needs to be unleashed.
That all the people at you know, whether it's Botteter at CDC at NIH or Dr. Oz or Dr. Macri over at FDA, the whole Maha leadership needs to be unleashed.
And in the interest of the party, the Republicans have taken on these subjects, and it represents a massive political advantage to them.
Mays Middleton, Terry Schelling, who is one of our biggest contributors and somebody that's really been at the tip of the spear of this trans radical transgender ideology, speaks the world about you, particularly this fight down in Texas.
Now, you're in this runoff for attorney general, but where he really came to see you was in this fight.
Can you walk through how did you get involved in that?
And what is this?
What does this mean for what you will do as Attorney General for the state of Texas?
Because I don't want men in my little girl's restroom or locker room or shower.
And look, they've threatened me.
They've threatened my family.
The two Democrats in this 80s race, Nathan Johnson and Joe Jaworski, can't stop talking about me.
They keep saying, we got to stop this MAGA Mays guy.
We can't let him get elected.
They're not talking about my opponent in this race.
And they're actually saying that the number one law that they will not enforce is the Women's Privacy Act, the law that I wrote that stops perverted men from going into women's restrooms and locker rooms.
So, look, the reason why the left is protesting me, the reason why the left is threatening my life, the reason why the two Democrats in this AGs race say I'm the person to stop because I'm already defeating the left.
The left knows who their true enemy is.
And, you know, it's funny to see politicians like Chip Roy and Liz Cheney suddenly surprised when their record of fighting President Trump catches up to him.
Because, you know, Chip was saying, hey, I'm going to be at 49%.
He said he had a poll back in January that he was going to go win this without a runoff.
He just needed to get one more percent, that he was going to be out on top.
He said that we were MAGA effers and that we could kiss his, you know what, if we didn't like it.
And you know what that sounds a lot to me like?
The basket of deplorables with Hillary Clinton.
And you know what?
I'm proud to be in that basket of deplorables.
And this is someone that said Liz Cheney need to be condemned, commended, not condemned, right?
He sided with Liz Cheney against President Trump, said that President Trump had committed impeachable conduct and not only that, fought to certify a stolen election in 2020 and certify Joe Biden as president.
I mean, the list goes on.
His judgment is terrible.
And repeatedly he has fought against the Make America Great Again agenda.
We are going to have Chip on either tonight or tomorrow.
Sometimes we're going to get Mays and Chip on for the duration of this.
We think it's very important.
Obviously, AG is such an important, not just for Texas, but the Texas AG.
As you know, Mays sets, really sets the tempo, I think, for conservative and for MAGA AGs throughout the country.
I think it's one of the reasons Paxon's so revered.
Talk to me about your Democratic opponents.
Why are they so obsessed?
Why the Democratic Party, in particular a place like Texas, where you can tell it just doesn't set well with people, why are they obsessed with this issue of transgenderism?
I mean, like they've already said, hey, Middleton may have passed this law, but as AG, the first thing we're going to do is make sure we don't enforce it.
Why are they so obsessed by this radical ideology that you can kind of feel a lot of most Texans don't agree with?
Look, this is truly a spiritual battle that we are in.
We are the light and they are the dark.
I mean, you saw what they did to Charlie Kirk, not just because of his conservative values, but because of his Christian faith.
And they have to be defeated.
And this is a show-me, don't tell me business, Steve.
I mean, how tired are we of hearing politicians telling us what they're going to do, right?
I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that.
No, you got to show us the results.
And I can show you those results.
I took on the woke left's radical gender ideology and won.
I authored and passed the save women's sports law and the strongest women's privacy law in America.
I took on the atheists, defeated them, and won.
I got prayer and the 10 commandments back into our public schools, even took on our foreign adversaries in Austin and stopped China from buying our land, designated cartels as terrorists, tripled border security, and have now taken on one of our most growing threats, one of our biggest threats against not just our country, against our state, and that is Sharia law and Islamification.
Mays, this is the first time a lot of people are being introduced to you.
I want to make sure they are immersed in information and get to know you because this one, we're going to have Chip on, but I can tell, I told people this one's going to be fought down to the end.
Where do people go?
What's your website?
What's your social media?
How do people, if they want to find out more about Mays Middleton, how do they do that?
Chip Roy, I think Chip was going to try again on last night, couldn't make it.
He said up and couldn't make it.
Try the game on tonight or tomorrow.
So you're going to have a full plate of Chip Roy.
Mays Middleton, I think it's very important for the folks in Texas to be able to weigh and measure.
Because as you know, what Ken Paxson gave us as Attorney General, we're going to need that because this thing is, they're coming for Texas and they're coming for Texas hard.
Okay, listen to Dr. Jeffrey Tucker from Brownstone.
I want everybody, if Mo and Elizabeth and Grace can push that article out with the polling and drill down into the polling, they have the PDFs associated with it about medical freedom.
It's a winner, two-thirds.
It's a winner for the MAGA movement, MAGA, and Make America Healthy Again.
And all he's saying is let's not put that on the back shelf.
It's vitally important.
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Dr. Thayer, we got a couple of minutes.
CENCOM, okay, we did, we followed the briefing on Real America's Voice of the Hemispheric Defense briefing earlier this morning.
This afternoon, CENCOM is going to give a briefing.
Everybody should watch here on Real America's Voice live at 4.30.
We're going to have hopefully Dr. Thayer, Brandon Weikert, and others give observations.
This will be the real kind of combat of what's going on in the theater with the combatant commander.
Dr. Thayer, we got a couple of minutes, though.
I just want to leave it because there has been a lot of activity of taking ships out in the Persian Gulf and Straits of Hermuz.
Give me a couple of minutes on that.
How important, how important strategically is this as an element of this war?
This is a way that the Iranians can inflict pain on the United States, on the American people, our allies, the Gulf shakedoms, the Saudis, and others.
So it's entirely understandable about why Iran is trying to do this.
They want to drive the price of oil and gas up, and they are doing.
Brent's about $85 and going north.
So that's going to be significant.
That's one of the ways they can inflict economic pain on us.
Secondly, the threat.
You don't need to sink every tanker, just the threat of losses, the threat of damage is going to drive insurance up, which is why President Trump has, in essence, assigned the mission to the Navy, going back in a deja vu sense to the 1980s, Operation Ernest Will, for example, from 87 to 88, where we escorted Kuwaiti tankers and others, actually, as it turned out, through the Gulf and out of the Straits.
So that's going to be a major mission for the United States Navy to incur.
Thirdly, you've got a lot of shipping bottled up, right?
Estimates are over 4%, essentially by tonnage, of global ship tonnage are in the Gulf now.
So that's a lot of vessels that are going to have to exit.
And those are going to be a lot of targets, clearly for the Iranians.
This is shades of the Iraq, the tanker wars that we fought in the 80s.
And there are a lot of lessons to learn from that.
It's a very difficult environment for the Navy due to civilians, due to a lot of subsurface, surface aerial targets, drones, mines, cruise.