Episode 5185: SCOTUS Victory Against Trans Indoctrination Common Sense Case For Nationalizing Elections
Stephen K. Bannon frames the fight against media deception as a "medieval" battle, while Kansas AG Chris Kobak details legislative wins banning sex changes on IDs and birth certificates, calling ACLU lawsuits a push for an "invisible constitutional right." Terry Schilling warns of transgender ideology’s violent roots and Marxist ties, praising SCOTUS’s parental rights victory over California’s gender-transition secrecy laws. Brian Kennedy exposes China-linked vulnerabilities in U.S. voting machines—citing 2019 PLA threats—and demands a paper-ballot executive order ahead of midterms. The episode culminates with President Trump’s Oval Office address claiming Iran’s military was preemptively destroyed, 35,000 protesters killed, and Venezuela’s oil rebound under U.S. backing, framing it as an "America First" geopolitical reset. [Automatically generated summary]
Also on Capitol Hill, Christy Noam's getting grilled over.
And also Bridge Colby.
Now, remember, Bridge is kind of the chief thinker and strategist over there, and very, very important, one of Hegsa's top guys.
He's, and we got Neil McCabe at the hearing, but Dr. Thayer is also monitoring online.
Pretty important, particularly given the conversation we just had the first hour.
Bridge, as, and we'll get some clips in this, definitely looks like distancing from regime change and focus very much on the Iranian Navy and missile capacity.
And we know they've pounded the Iranian Navy.
I think President Trump said last night, 11 capital ships of the Iranian Navy are now sunk.
And I think all of those have been sunk in the Persian Gulf.
They even get to open sea on the North Arabian Sea.
So we'll get more of that.
But Bridge Colby is making the case and he's getting grilled to, although it hasn't been confrontational at all.
Christy Noam, a little bit different because of coming after Christy.
I want to get Chris Kobak up and then Terry Schilling.
A huge federal, a huge decision on this transgender issue yesterday in California.
Chris Kobe, Attorney General of the state of Kansas.
Sir, you've just done a magnificent job.
And of course, people know you as one of the top.
You and Paxson are probably the two top MAGA Republican AGs.
And of course, today we're here following Ken Paxson's.
He's trying to fleet up to the Senate.
Talk to me about this driver's license situation because this is one that has sent the Rachel Maddow crowd in MSNBC.
If they didn't have the war to focus on, trust me, they would be outside your door.
I don't think anything has triggered these people as much as what you've done in the state of Kansas.
Yeah, it's a long saga, but I'll give you the reader's digest version.
In 2023, the Kansas legislature passed a bill saying you can't change your sex other than to something other than your biological sex on your driver's license or your birth certificate.
There was litigation over that where we have a Democrat governor in Kansas and she directed her administration not to interpret the law the way it was obviously written.
And so I had to sue the governor and we prevailed in district court, but then a very liberal Court of Appeals panel went the wrong way and said, oh, maybe the statute isn't as clear.
And so then the Kansas legislature, this just this past session within the last few months, amended the bill to make it crystal clear so that no judge could possibly mistake that this is intended to stop individuals from changing their sex from their driver's license to something other than biological sex.
So now there's no room, no wiggle room for a judge or an attorney to read it the wrong way.
But where it got even more interesting is while the legislature was deliberating on this just in past January, a newly appointed Democrat legislator who is himself a biological male, transitioned to female, but still very much looks like a biological male, started using the women's restrooms in the Kansas Capitol building, causing great distress to a very large number of female legislators.
And as a result, they, in addition to clarifying the driver's license bill, they said, well, this would be a good time to also bring in legislation that we were considering on bathrooms in public buildings, saying that those two must conform to your biological sex, your use of the bathroom.
So the two things got passed.
The governor again tried to veto them.
Legislature, we have more than a supermajority Republican in Kansas.
Legislature overrode the governor's veto.
And just Friday, a few days ago, the ACLU is suing, claiming that there is an invisible constitutional right to force the government to change your sex on your government document, and you have an equally important invisible right to use the bathroom you choose in government buildings.
So that is the case we are.
We are going to be arguing, and I'll be arguing it this week and Friday in a TRO hearing.
Why do you think, why is it Schilling's going to be here in a minute who's led this effort throughout the country and he's going to talk about California?
Why is it certain elements of the looks like all of it now?
Because President Trump called it out the other night in the State of the Union where they wouldn't stand.
What's the obsession here, sir, that they go through all these perturbations on every different aspect to try to get this?
And it seems like to folks in the country, basically, you know, the 85% that don't agree with this, to be an obsession.
You know, I think just from my observation as an attorney who has litigated some of these cases over the past few years, I think there's a real strong desire on the part of the trans movement to force the government and force the rest of society to embrace their claim that they have changed their sex.
It's not enough that they can go about life presenting themselves as someone of the opposite sex.
They want to force the rest of us and they want to force the government itself to state their claim that they have somehow changed their sex, despite the fact that their DNA remains the same.
And I don't pretend to be a psychologist, but that seems to be the driving force here.
Let me ask you, because we're going to have you back next week to talk about more detailed stuff for what you're working on, but you and Paxton kind of became legends and standing up for the Constitution and standing up for your states.
What is it?
Because you've got one of the best legal educations, let's say, I've ever seen, right?
What is it about the judiciary and even the legal profession that appears that they've so radicalized that they may be the most radical part of this of the progressive democratic movement?
They're maybe even more radical than elected offical than even elected officials.
One is that there are attorneys who become judges who believe in an activist judiciary.
And that is to say, they believe that judges should do more than just interpret the law, the words of the law neutrally, but that judges should take action and act as a pseudo-legislator.
And then that's in combination with the fact that the left politically in America is losing a lot of these battles in the legislature.
And so they are putting pressure on the courts to give them a victory after they've already lost in front of the representatives of the people.
So you've got an ideological mindset among many of the people who go into the judiciary, not all of them, but many of them.
And then you've got this intense pressure from the left saying, hey, this is our only, we've lost in the legislation.
We can't possibly win in the legislature.
We are taking our battle to the courts.
And of course, the ACLU is their primary vanguard.
Those are their shock troops every time a case like this is filed.
And of course, I'm litigating against the ACLU in this case.
Also, one of the greatest for years, one of the greatest immigration and fought so many of the great battles that got us to President Trump and where we are today to actually get the mass deportations and to get these illegal aliens out of the country.
Chris Kobe was in the breach many, many times.
Is Terry Schilling?
Do I have Terry Schilling yet?
Terry Schilling.
You just saw Kobe.
And I want to say, if it wasn't for people like Kobe and Schilling, Terry, just give us a second because, and I want to talk about the shootings, this movement that you helped identify that was going to be a huge deal a couple of years ago when you came on here.
The viciousness of it, I don't think people totally comprehend.
Tell me about that for a second.
You've seen this now with all these shootings and this anger that seems to be building up.
Why is that?
And then even people like yourself and Kobek, you know, even if it's about war, or if it's about cutting the budget, or it's even about mass deportations and illegal aliens, you do not see the level of hate and vitriol as about this topic.
This is, for some reason, the hot button of all hot buttons.
Am I misinterpreting that?
I mean, we cover a lot of stuff here.
We bring a lot of people.
We do a lot of background research and all this.
And I keep telling people this one is in a different category, sir.
So at the heart of the entire transgender ideology is antisocial behavior, right?
They are rejecting all of society's norms around sex and gender, around normalcy when it comes to protecting children and their innocence from sexual perversion and dysfunction.
And that's what's driving it, right?
And keep in mind, Steve, these are still men.
I will never forget it was right after the Obergefeld decision in 2015, the left immediately pivoted to pushing the trans issue on children and on women in their private spaces.
And you would have these big, enormous, burly men wearing dresses and makeup who were threatening to kneecap TERFs.
Now, what's a TERF?
It's a trans exclusionary radical feminist.
So essentially, it's a lesbian who doesn't want to have sex with a woman who has male genitalia is essentially, but it's always been a violent movement.
You know, this call me ma'am.
We've all seen the viral videos.
There's way too many of them to point out.
And you don't see those types of videos with Christians or with pastors.
You know, it's a totally different game.
But at the heart of it is incredible amounts of dissatisfaction with one's life.
There's been countless articles about how lonely these people are.
They can't find a mate.
They can't find a partner because no one wants to do this stuff.
It's a very small community and they become radicalized because they're told that until society begins to affirm them in their gender identity and who they are as a person, that they are going to continue to commit suicide and be depressed and have anxiety.
The problem is, is that none of those problems are going to go away until they rectify and reconcile their body with their minds.
It's absolutely atrocious, Steve.
But the violence doesn't stop there.
You know, this Supreme Court case that we're seeing here, where we just had a major victory, well, this is a preliminary decision.
So basically, right now, all the laws that say that schools can withhold this information about a child transitioning, those are struck down.
They're not valid.
And the California district has a major victory.
This summer, there will be a larger decision that comes out.
And we're very optimistic that this decision will end up striking down every single law that banishes parents from the classroom and from knowing about the issues that their children are suffering from.
But Steve, there are seven kids at the heart of this case.
And one of them, one of the kids, her parents did not find out until she attempted suicide, right?
So it takes suicide for the school to let the parents know what the kid's going through.
I want to go back for something because your group has focused on the family.
I mean, we used to talk about we're going to put forward a family economic plan.
This is the family is the core building block of our society.
And it was in your work on the family that because at its heart, this radical transgender ideology is set up to strike at the heart of the family, is it not?
And by the way, I just got to say, this is all the Gavin Newsome and Scott Wiener, right?
Scott Wiener, a lot of your audience might not know him.
He is Gavin Newsome's chogy boy on LGBTQ issues.
He's the one that's constantly, he's the one that introduced this legislation in the state legislature in California.
He's now running for Nancy Pelosi's seat.
But this is the guy that's been targeting our children across the board.
But Steve, if you just press fast forward and you let this trans issue play out without anyone stopping it, what happens?
Well, you have a whole generation of infertile people that are sterilized.
They can't have their own children.
So then, where do you get new people?
Well, the corporation and the state will provide that, right?
This is a dystopian novel waiting to happen.
These people won't be able to reproduce.
They won't be able to have their own families, making them much more miserable, making them have less purpose in their lives, and making them more depressed and suicidal and anxious.
It's not good for society.
But then on the other end, you will have corporations, fertility clinics that are growing babies in artificial wombs.
And I know this sounds radical now, but I'm saying it now in 2026 so that in five to 10 years, when it all starts happening, we'll have another marker of how War Room and APP were right.
But this is where they're taking us.
They want the state and the corporation to determine the means of reproduction.
And that's what they're trying to do.
This is all Marxism.
Carrie Gress has a related book, I think, on feminism called Anti-Mary.
All of this stuff has Marxist roots in it.
It's all being driven by people that come from broken homes, from very sad situations, from abuse, from sexual abuse, from physical and verbal abuse.
And they're the ones leading the charge and breaking up our families.
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But let's go ahead and play the clip for Terry, bring him back in.
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Who's out of the nation's capital today where the Supreme Court has ruled on California policy regarding the notification of parents surrounding their child's gender identity?
Today's ruling overturns a state law which prevented schools from notifying parents if students change their pronouns or gender expression at school.
This comes after some religious parents and educators challenged California school policies aimed at preventing schools from outing students to their families.
California argued students have the right to privacy over their gender expression, especially if they fear rejection from their families.
Okay, this is why it was directly at the heart of the family.
Because, you know, having children and really having the family and having the children is such a great pleasure and honor in life.
And having had the pleasure of growing up in a family, we, you know, it was five of us, right?
And we're all very close.
And my mom was a homemaker.
My dad, blue-collar guy, you know, eventually got into lower white-collar management, never went to college, kind of a foreman.
But back in those days, you could do that.
You see, the, was it Tolstoy?
I got this right now.
All happy families are the same and every unhappy family is unhappy in its own unique way.
You can see that.
And what this, Terry, what this always bothered me is that you would have the fear of having kids because these schools, all of a sudden, they can take your children.
They imbue it with this beyond bizarre radical ideology.
And they got these books and the librarians, the whole thing.
And you as a parent, not only do you have no control and couldn't find out about it, they could come back and sue you.
I mean, the stories you hear, first about the kids that they're trying to transition, you hear the stories of the parents.
As hard as it is to be a parent in modern America, and you hear this, I go, man, you're not going to have anybody want to have kids because this is demonic.
The Marxists, remember, the core of Marxism and the Bolsheviks was to destroy the family.
You destroy the family as the basic unit of the Judeo-Christian West, and you're a long way to take down the whole thing.
And they understood this.
And this, of everything we've ever been assaulted with, this was by far the most demonic.
And they were vicious about it.
And these parents, the heart-rending stories, you just gave the story.
They only found out about it when their little girl tried to commit suicide.
But there are hundreds of stories.
So what did the Supreme Court say yesterday?
Because to me, this is kind of now the path of the Calvary is arriving.
So the Supreme Court essentially ruled that this law is unconstitutional.
It violates parents' rights to direct the upbringing of their children.
This is a, see, parental rights is like pre-constitutional.
The Constitution like guarantee, like it assumes that parents have the right to raise their children and direct their values.
You know, they didn't really think that they had to enshrine that.
And so the Supreme Court struck this down.
I do think it's important, though, Steve, to point out what is actually happening in California, which is that California is conducting experiments on captive audiences, right?
And what that means is that the people that they're targeting can't leave.
So they go after school children where the schools and the teachers, these are authority figures, right?
Parents tell the kids to do what the teacher says.
That's kind of the nature of the schools, but they also do it in prisons.
There is a guy, Tremaine Shearer, I'm sorry, Tremaine Dion Carroll in the California prison system.
He, through sheer force of will and through the help of Gavin Newsom and Scott Weiner, he forced his way as a male into the women's prison by claiming to be a woman.
Well, he impregnated his first cellmate, and now he's been indicted for raping the next two.
Prisoners can't go anywhere.
Neither can students.
They trap these people and they force them to go through these crazy and evil and diabolic experiments around this stuff.
It's absolutely atrocious.
But I will say, Steve, I do think the tide is turning.
This is a huge victory.
You know, I'm so used to the Supreme Court giving us a little carve out, you know, a religious freedom exemption like we saw it with Hobby Lobby or just simply allowing our women's sports laws or our anti-gender mutilation bills to stand and be enforced.
But this law is a major victory.
You know, when Roe v. Wade was decided, it struck down all pro-life laws across the country.
That's what this ruling is doing on affronts to parental rights to know what their children are suffering from and what their children are going through.
It's a very big day for America.
It's a great day for the American family.
And by the way, Steve, real quick, the family is the revolution, right?
If they take away your right to have children and to raise them and to instill your values, that's like the last recourse.
If you can't do anything in politics, if you can't get members of Congress or senators to vote your way or a president elected, you can have children.
You can start a little community.
You can raise them, instill the right values in them, teach them to be good.
And they want to take that away.
And that's what these government schools are doing: they're instilling their values into your children so that they aren't Christian, so that they aren't American, so that they're Marxist and so that they hate you.
Now, that was the question that the people that follow these private schools and are fighting these elite private schools that are saying, hey, they're destroying the nation.
However, we had other engine room people that came and said, Terry, you've put out a new term that the Warren Posse is not familiar with.
You have to explain it.
TERF is a T, what is TERF?
Explain it.
We got about a minute, sir.
We got 90 seconds.
You're going to get your pitch at the end, but what is TERF?
These are essentially lesbians who don't believe that men can become women and they don't want transgendered men who claim to be women to be in the feminist movement, right?
As you know, he's one of my favorite people, co-founder of the Committee on the Present Danger, China, been just a guy that we can depend on from the very early days of America First and one of our leading public intellectuals.
But Brian, before I get into this amazing piece you wrote in the blaze, we tried to cram it in yesterday, but I needed to breathe today because people have to understand the path here for the 2026 midterms and make sure that we, given everything in Georgia, given everything in Michigan, given everything up in Wisconsin, in Maricopa County, and in Pennsylvania, we got to sort this out.
Grace Chong has told me she's upset.
I haven't had enough boomer neoconism on.
So can you give a minute summary of where you think we stand in this major military operation, sir?
I would consider this boomer America firstism, not neoconism.
The neocons wanted to engage in the democracy project all around the world, and I don't subscribe to that at all.
The president doesn't subscribe to that.
This is, I think what I think about this is just simply America First.
The President's conducted this war here in Iran to put America first, to put America defense first.
There may be ancillary benefits to Israel, obviously, throughout this.
We may be doing this.
Obviously, we're doing this in concert with Israel.
But the president's main purpose is making sure that America is defended from Iranian ballistic missiles and their nuclear program, which he is systematically degrading over the next four or five weeks, he says.
Now, this idea that we're running out of everything and that this is a badly planned operation, I'm not sure how we would even know that.
Maybe asking our allies for some of the interceptors back may be an indication of that.
But when it comes to American capabilities in terms of offensive forces and even much of our defensive forces, we have a lot.
And this military would not be engaging this over a five-week period without adequate resources.
I will give our military more credit than that, Steve.
That would be a bad thing if we were, because as I argued, I think before, this is a phase of World War III that you rightly have described over the last several years.
And so this is not just about Iran.
This is certainly about China.
Now, some folks say that the Chinese have been egging us into this so as to expose ourselves over there in the Middle East so that we can deplete our forces, what have you, and be incapable of defending Taiwan.
Certainly, that is a problem for us.
But wars are fought this way, Steve.
There's all sorts of problems throughout a war.
Wars are not fought in a couple days as if this was something that you can watch on TV in one, like a Netflix special, and it'll be over and things will be simple or perfect.
And that's not how wars are.
And I think we need to grow up a bit as a country on what it takes to fight wars.
Do we need more munitions?
Yes.
Are our factories working around the clock producing more munitions, offensive and defensive?
Well, they should be.
We should find out today, are our factories who produce these interceptors, are they working around the clock to make sure that we don't need to deplete our allies?
Are our allies producing their own defensive weapons and offensive weapons?
This is simply the nature.
If we have to rely simply on making this perfect before we do it, it'll never get done.
And so I have a lot of faith in the president and our military to get this piece of it right.
I think the reason he's called the media, I think that we're going to go to the oval momentarily for this bylaw.
I think President's going to have a couple of things to say just about this: allies, arms, the ability to take down the, of course, Bridge Colby has said, and I'm getting this from McCabe and from Dr. Thayer, who are both watching.
McCabe's there, Thayer, I think, watching the stream, that Bridges make the argument does this take down their ballistic missile system, any nuclear capability, and their fleet.
Really, this grew in part out of our work on the Committee on the Present Danger China.
We saw the Chinese declare a people's war against the United States in May of 2019.
And throughout 2019 and 2020, and I'd come on the war room, we were talking about the Chinese threat to the country.
And after the election of 2020, when it looked like the election was stolen, I had a team of many of them retired intel officers, including our friend, the late Rich Higgins.
Many of them put together a report and was studying and evaluating what happened in the election.
I went to Arizona.
I went to Nevada to investigate what went on.
The other Intel officers were doing their own investigations.
And we all came to the conclusion that we may not be able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the election was stolen in 2020.
All of us believe so.
But what we noticed was the electronic voting systems that were in place, all of them were using component pieces within their system that were made in communist China, the same way our cell phones and our laptop computers are all made in communist China.
So were the voting machines.
Some of them are built in the United States, but they're all using electronic components.
That was a great concern because the PLA has a cyber army of a million men who are capable of all sorts of nefarious cyber activity.
That was a concern.
Anything that is a computer-based system can be programmed.
And when you looked at the providence of who programs these election systems, some of it in some of the systems is done in America, still using the Chinese components.
But the providence of the software looked to be evaluated by Communist China.
Some of the design was in Venezuela in some of the systems.
Some of the systems used software that was designed in Serbia.
And, you know, just they may be perfectly honest, these machines, but just at the level of transparency, people look at that and they think, you know, that seems crazy.
And I got subpoenaed by the Biden Justice Department at the end of 2022.
Then in 2023, I testified before a grand jury for six and a half hours on this.
It was one of the January 6th grand juries.
It was myself and the former National Security Advisor for President Trump, Robert O'Brien.
He was in front of one of the other parts of the grand jury.
But we testified, I testified for six and a half hours.
And the real question was all about this electronic system and its vulnerability.
They had a 50-page PowerPoint that I and the rest of the team had produced, Rich Higgins especially, that laid out the Chinese origins of the electronics and the foreign ownership of some of the other components.
My big push at the time was we need to investigate this.
The federal government needs to investigate it.
This is obviously the weeks after the election and get to the bottom of this.
Well, all these years later, we've had a lot of theories about what went on, but we've never gotten to the bottom of it.
We know that there were all sorts of improprieties in the election in 2020.
And those things have only now really, now that President Trump's back in office, are being thoroughly investigated here.
But we're losing a major opportunity.
We have an election coming up here this fall, the midterms.
We have it's game day here in Texas.
In Texas, you know, you have low voter turnout.
A certain percentage of the people don't believe the elections are fair.
They think the system is rigged, and so they don't vote.
It may be a small percentage, but a significant percentage of people really does affect the outcome.
What I'm calling for in this piece, after laying all this out, is the fact that because communist China is part of the mix of these electronic machines, that we prohibit through an executive order by the president and a presidential finding if necessary, that we simply can't use these electronic voting machines because of the potential for foreign interference.
Tulsi Gabbard is looking into this.
She's certainly looking into what transpired in Georgia.
And my hope is between Tulsi Gabbard and the president, they do sign an executive order banning the voting machines, electronic voting machines, and the tabulators and anything electronic, because all of it's going to be touched by communist China at one level from being used in any future election.
Now, once you do that, you're going to have to have a system in place to replace the electronic voting system.
And all sorts of people in the war room is very familiar with this, have called for, including Michael and Dell, who's been a real champion of this, a voting system that uses paper ballots, voter ID, that they're counted by human beings with other human beings watching them, that these things are all streamed online.
So there's absolute transparency about who wins in an election.
Because if you don't know who wins your elections, you don't really have a country anymore.
You're not a sovereign people if, in fact, you don't know who wins the election.
And I describe in the piece, we have the crisis of illegal immigration.
If you don't have a border, you don't have a country.
And if you don't have a voting system, you can't really give consent properly for the republic you're living in here.
And so I'm very serious when I say the president, if he does want to secure the elections, and by every measure, he believes the 2020 election was stolen.
He thinks the electronic machines are a problem, but not everybody in the White House does.
And it is my sincere hope that he looks hard at this essay and looks hard at the executive orders that are before him and talks to all of his best people about this and pulls the trigger, as it were, on making sure that the machines are banned and that a new system is put in place.
If we ban the system, I got a minute and you got a bounce.
If we ban the system, is there enough time with all these people who have been working on it to put some at least rudimentary system in place that could guarantee free and fair elections?
If you look at Iraq, where very stupidly everybody was fired, the generals were fired, the military was fired, the police were fired, the fire departments were fired.
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