Battleground EP 958: Stopping The Spread Of Poison In Our Food; On The Ground With ICE In California
Battleground EP 958 exposes Texas’s alleged push for Sharia law by March 3rd, while dissecting Trump’s Iran negotiations—frustrated by stalled progress, he fires Vice Admiral Ketcher after 90 days, trusting General Kane’s track record. Michael Limbaum details glyphosate’s carcinogenic risks since 2015, Monsanto’s disputed studies, and Roundup’s hidden presence in foods like Cheerios, linking it to gut damage and metabolic disorders. ICE officers in Arizona report revived morale under Trump, contrasting Biden’s restrictions, as Bannon warns losing Texas could mean losing the U.S., citing Paxton’s $3.6M campaign against Cruz’s $80M ads. The episode ties food poisoning, immigration enforcement, and geopolitical tensions into a broader critique of systemic subversion. [Automatically generated summary]
Yeah, today at the White House at the departure gaggle, as he was walking to Marine One, he said that he wasn't happy with the way the negotiations were going.
And he also said that he preferred negotiations.
He preferred a settlement.
But if the Iranians want a war, they'll get one.
That's my words, not his.
But I think his predisposition is to find some solution that he can negotiate.
I don't think he's looking forward for a war at all because it creates all sorts of other complications once it starts.
And then, you know, then it becomes a chain of event that you lose control of.
So I think he wants to have control of the situation and settle it, Steve.
The disturbing thing in Axios, it was, and this is the first time I've seen this, that Jared Kushner and Steve Wivkoff, the two lead negotiators here, were expressing frustration to him that they didn't know how much progress they were actually making.
I've said this before.
The reason Geneva was so important, if they had gone to Geneva and done this whole thing of passing notes to each other and the Oman, it's not going to work for President Trump.
He wants to know if he's going to get a deal.
If you're not in the room, my understanding is the second part of that meeting took place face to face for the first time.
Jared and Witkoff did set up to meet in Geneva this next week.
We'll have to see if that actually takes place.
And I think the president's going to have to be pretty confident that things are moving towards some sort of peaceful resolution.
If not, I think at least we're going to see some potential, what we refer to here as coercive diplomacy.
Big news out of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Folks should understand that he looks at General Raisin Kane and really puts a lot of faith in him.
Here's the reason.
In the first term, we were told by President Obama that the ISIS situation was generational.
Remember, ISIS at the time had a caliphate that had basically a third of Iraq, half of Syria.
They had oil revenues.
They're recruiting 10,000 individuals a month, principally out of Europe.
General Kaine, as the operational commander, took ISIS down, I think, in four and five months.
And that's when President Trump actually met him, spent a lot of time with him.
Of course, the expeditionary hit in June that ended the total, the end of the 12-day war, total obliteration of the nuclear, at least the enrichment program, what we heard at the time.
And then the really incredible joint operational command of special forces, of which the helicopter pilot was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor at the State of the Union the other night.
Neil, there's been some disturbing news out of the Joint Chiefs.
And when you're getting ready for a big operation like this, one thing we do know is that I don't know if it was negative.
I think it shows President Trump puts a lot of weight in what General Raisin Kane will say.
He's got a lot of faith in this guy.
He's delivered, like I said, in the ISIS situation, ending the 12-day war, the massive expeditionary hit, not just the bombers from the continental United States, but also the fast attack submarines delivering, as you know, Neil, those cruise missiles that took down the above-ground facilities.
And then, quite frankly, just an extraordinary, another expeditionary strike to take Maduro.
Neil, we're going to come back to you tomorrow.
Oh, one more quickly.
You've got an update on Cuba.
I want to make sure we get that.
It seems like there's a lot of discussion between the State Department, Rubio, and the Cubans.
And this group, it's quite odd.
It's kind of an odd.
I think you might be correct.
It may be the Versailles Bakery Alumni Association, right?
And then the new threat, of course, is that a very prominent Cuban-American leader in Miami told me that, you know, he wouldn't be surprised to find out that this whole thing was arranged by the Cuban intelligence where they would take in his narrative.
They basically found four Stooges, lined them up for what in effect was a suicide mission.
The six, quote, survivors, unquote, would have been the Cuban agents.
And when that encounter happened with the Cuban boat, you know, the four sort of Stooges were killed.
The survivors, who are the Cuban agents, they would be the ones who would then start saying, yes, we were here to stir up terrorism.
When Trump says a friendly takeover of Cuba, that's when people start shaking.
He did say, though, that there is incredible trust of Rubio because of his life story and his career.
And basically, I would put it that only Rubio could go to Havana, that they're confused as to why Rubio's been kind of hesitant.
And they obviously people are maybe wondering why the president hasn't really directly addressed the fact that four Americans have been killed by the Cubans.
You would think he would talk about it, but people are sort of hanging out and they trust Rubio and they trust Trump, Steve.
Roundup Controversy and Regenerative Farming00:15:14
Of course, if anything breaks on this Iran situation, just like we've done in the past, A Real America's Voice will go live and we'll be up on this momentarily.
We've got a whole team that's monitoring this quite closely, many places in Washington, D.C., and in the region.
Honored to have Michael Limbaum on.
Michael, thank you for joining us.
And thank you for, we had to change here a couple of times because of the president's speech, et cetera.
Roundup.
The Make America Healthy Again, which is a huge part of our coalition, had a big event last night in Austin, Texas.
They're kicking off this, you know, Make America, the whole food aspect of this.
But I don't think we've seen anything in President Trump's first term that's gotten so many key parts of our coalition up in arms of this situation with Roundup and the executive order.
Can you walk us through exactly what's going on here?
And we know that you know the situation of Roundup very deeply.
Well, from our perspective, as people who worked on the Roundup trials and have been following Roundup and glyphosate as a carcinogen since 2015, when IARC found it to be a probable human carcinogen, a lot of people have been wanting to get that things that have round food that has Roundup in it out of the American diet.
And that's a big part of the Make America Healthy Again.
But I think Secretary Kennedy and many of the leaders of Make America Healthy Again, Maha, recognize that Monsanto essentially has a stranglehold over the farmers in the U.S.
There's a monopolistic stranglehold where they have really no choice but to use Roundup ready products and to use Roundup to dry out crops of wheat and oats to make Cheerios and Quaker oats and Wheaties.
And these things need, you can't just go cold turkey to get rid of those things from the American diet and to have regenerative farming that has the healthy microbes in the soil.
Those types of things take time to take a big ship like that.
We have a clip we're going to play, but the Roundup situation has been controversial.
I mean, somebody approached me in my, because I was a filmmaker, came to me, got to be 10, 15 years ago about making a huge film about this.
This guy went out and did this documentary over years.
Roundup has been so controversial for so long, and there's been a huge settlement.
I think just for our audience that is just coming into this, how did we get in a situation that Monsanto still has the monopoly, that there's no other alternatives, that there's not some either safer version of this and or something you can use that doesn't have the carcinogenic material in it.
It seems like we've been talking about Roundup studying Roundup, suing Monsanto for it feels like decades.
So how can we get to 2026?
I think people are asking and saying, hey, how could we even have the possibility President Trump's got to sign this?
And Bobby Kennedy's sitting there going, well, we're not going to have food production if we don't do it, sir.
So there have been many administrations that have provided subsidies for Roundup ready crops and glyphosate-based pesticides to be used throughout the U.S.
And there's like in the neighborhood of like $11 billion of subsidies that go to those crops.
And the organic farmers and the regenerative farmers don't get those types of subsidies.
And in order to get a freeway ramp off-ramp from the Roundup ready crops, they need help.
And I think that Secretary Kennedy has, along with Secretary Rollins, begun the path of having around $700 million dedicated to getting regenerative farming made available and more available to farmers.
Now, $700 million versus $11 billion, well, that's it's a start, but it's not a complete enough project to get enough of the American farming off of the addiction to Roundup ready crops and Roundup herbicides.
And one of the problems, the big problems is that it's not just in the food.
The manner in which it kills plants is the same mechanism of action that kills the microbes in the soil, makes dead soil, kills microbes in your gut when you end up with food that has Roundup in it when it's sprayed on wheat and oats just before harvest.
There's a lot of damage above and beyond the non-Hodgkin's lymphoma that we litigated and won those lawsuits on.
Michael, but just on the timeline here, as you said, you sued in one.
We've known this for a long time.
I think what people are shocked about is how could we be in a situation where we're still given subsidies?
And this is not blaming the Trump administration.
They kind of inherited this, but how have the Department of Agriculture and through so many years when we knew it had the microbes, when you knew you had problems with this, how could we be in a situation when Bobby Kennedy came in and Nicole Shanahan was so central to this coalition that everything's from the soil, that the way to American health is through agriculture?
How could we be in a situation that knowing everything that's bad about Roundup, that so many farmers are still using it and it's still subsidized?
And at some point in time, if you've won these cases, that people sit there and go, hey, we've got to get another alternative.
Billions of dollars are at stake in the farming states, the central U.S. farming states.
Billions of dollars are made by Monsanto and Bayer from these products, and they use that to lobby Congressman and legislation that is in their favor.
They have, we found in our litigation that there were essentially moles inside the EPA that was serving Monsanto's interests to perpetuate the idea that it doesn't cause cancer when it actually did.
And they refused to, the EPA refused to reevaluate and conduct the proper analysis using their own guidelines, despite the fact that the Ninth Circuit here in California directed them to do it correctly after establishing that they failed to do it.
So there's a lobbying and legislative and scientific debate that's being created that creates doubt.
It's the same book that tobacco used, create doubt and persist.
And eventually, you're right, people are going to wise up and knock it off.
And I think that under Bobby Kennedy, Secretary Kennedy, and Secretary Rollins, we have a chance to increase regenerative farming and decrease Roundup dependence in the U.S. Can I just take one of those aspects?
Because I know you, as you're a lawyer, but you've had to make yourself an expert in this.
Just what I didn't think there was any scientific debate about this.
Walk through the bid in the ass on the scientific debate.
What are Monsanto and Bear saying versus what outside independent scientists are saying?
Because I thought we had kind of settled the science and there was a whole process of how to already have an off-ramp.
And I thought that was kind of the executive order when Bobby came in.
And I knew Nicole Shanahan and the people that were the agriculture part of the Maha movement, I think felt the same way, that this was a process that we had for an off-ramp and for something that was going to be maybe a lot more than 700 million of regenerative, which is nothing to sneeze at, but there was already a program.
When you say there's a scientific argument they're making, what is the scientific argument that they are trying to make?
They say that the EPA has deemed glyphosate and Roundup not to be a carcinogen.
And they have refused to reevaluate it using the proper methods.
We used as an expert in our trials, Chris Poitier, Dr. Chris Poitier, who wrote the guidelines for the EPA, wrote the guidelines for how you evaluate carcinogenicity.
And he went through all the animal studies and epidemiology and arrived at the conclusion that, along with IARC, the International Association for Research on Cancer, deemed that it was a probable carcinogen.
Monsanto has hired experts to refute that.
And they do, they do, they ghostwrite articles pretending to be independent science when it's not.
They've been caught ghostwriting.
They've been caught in our lawsuits showing that they misrepresent what the science actually is.
That said, the ways they do that is they had some studies that were done and some publications done by experts that they hired that said that there wasn't a elevated level of carcinogenicity.
They say that their studies show that there aren't any carcinogenicity problems.
But if you look at the independent science, it shows that there is.
And so which do you weigh more?
The ones that Monsanto did or the ones that independent scientists did?
The Ramazzini Institute just did a fantastic analysis and found that there was clear levels of increased carcinogenicity, not just in Roundup, not just in non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.
Zen Honeycutt at Moms Cross America has been finding Roundup in all sorts of food products that kids and Americans are eating on a routine basis.
Is that contributing to gut microbiota being displaced and leading to some of the metabolic disorders that are prevalent in the U.S. now?
Will Monsanto recognize that?
No, they keep insisting.
And one of the, in the emails that we declassified, called the Monsanto Papers, which you can Google, one of their main mantras was to have freedom to operate, FTO.
They want to be able to say that they are free to operate independent of regulation, independent of independent science.
They want to be able to sell and push their product, notwithstanding that there is science against them.
Let's leave the margins and the profitability of Monsanto and Bayer off to the side for a second.
But if you had to shift today to a totally non-Roundup world, is it just not economically feasible?
I mean, we underwrite now $11 billion saying in Roundup.
How much more would the U.S. government have to underwrite a farmer so that they could make a shift to either regenerative, organic, or maybe some other product that's everybody's consensus is not carcinogenic?
I mean, because the end of the day, it's not that we care about the profits of Bayer and Monsanto.
They're big companies.
They got to figure it out.
What we care about is you can't tank the farmers if they've been using this and are not off it.
So what is the pathway that you recommended you see to actually shift people over here?
And can it be done?
Can you just be done cold turkey?
So you're just not going to use it.
Use this.
And if the government's got to underwrite it, the government's got to underwrite it for at least for a while.
Well, I think Secretary Kennedy is correct that we can't go cold turkey.
The margins that the farming community rely upon for just staying afloat are too thin and you just can't do it like that.
But you could start subsidizing regenerative farming and organic farming and farming without Roundup being used much more than it's being assigned to it now.
That would be one of the first steps, I think, to do.
There are lots of opportunities and methods for doing that.
NVIDIA has come up with a type of Weed killing that targets just the weed, does not kill any of the microbiota in the soil, and does whole crop or whole large level, industrial level farming type weed killing without killing the microbiota and without poisoning the soil,
without poisoning plants that grow, the crops that grow.
There's wisnerbomb.com is the website for our law firm.
And if you did a Google search for Monsanto papers, Wisner Bomb, we had all the thousands of pages of internal documents and all the expert reports that were used for the trials that we won.
We're going to talk a little bit about grassroots.
You got some other information too about some of the patriots that have been on these assaults.
So thank you for joining us here on a Friday.
I want to go to our own Ben Berquam.
Ben, so 20%, this was not located in Texas.
Ben is going to join us here, but I wanted to play this because it shows us where we are right now.
20%, I think, total either deportations and ICE activity, 20% of the total has come from the great state of Texas.
And people will tell you here that, you know, ICE working with law enforcement was what made that so great at first.
Now you've got this situation.
You got this trial.
I think there's a trial in Dallas.
There's another trial in Atifa that was a mistrial the other day.
It's going to stop all the people that tried to thwart that try to thwart law enforcement in Texas from working with ICE are kind of at the forefront now.
And, you know, President Trump just said this in Corpus Christi.
He said we're going to continue to do it, but there was no mention of mass deportations.
It looks like you went on a special assignment in California.
It appears to me that we're back to what you spent February and March of last year doing, going out with ICE and doing these incredible raids, but on bad ombres.
And you can see right there, the resident likes it, but it's not the Bovino school of we got to get a lot of people out here.
Mike Howell and people, they're starting, I got to tell you, it's getting real traction in Texas, this mass deportation coalition.
Tom Holman and these guys have an impossible job.
So when you're out there with those folks today in California, what's the esprit de core?
Do they feel like they were actually making progress?
Yeah, just to clarify, that was Phoenix ICE that I was with.
I'm actually on the border of California now.
I'm in Lake Havasu, going to be speaking over here tomorrow at a Republican Lincoln Day dinner here.
But yeah, it is.
It's the bad ombres, targeted enforcement.
There's definitely a shift back to specifically targeting individuals that we have extensive rap sheets on or extensive background workup on versus the Bovino model of this consensual encounter is what they call it, and basically going out into the community and engaging the community, doing targeted traffic enforcement and that sort of thing.
But in those cases, you don't really have an idea of who you're going to be encountering until you encounter them.
When that was happening in Minneapolis and all across the country, both were happening at the same time.
You had targeted enforcement plus the consensual encounter enforcement.
And it definitely seems like they've backed off the consensual encounter back to this target enforcement.
And as you said, you've got many, many ICE officers for potentially one person picked up.
It's just, you said it's an impossible task with the millions of illegals that were brought in under Joe Biden.
There has to be an increased enforcement.
But part of that has to be to win the propaganda war, the PR war, against these leftists that are training their Antifa scum to attack ICE, that are training the community to work against ICE, that are being trained by people like Mayor Fry in Minneapolis that I confronted in Washington, D.C. at the State of the Union to have their police officers not work with ICE.
And that's a huge difference.
You said it, Steve.
Texas has the highest percentage per state out of any other state in the country because Texas law enforcement actually works with ICE.
If law enforcement was actually able to work with ICE, you can do this across the country in a relatively short amount of time.
When you look at states like Illinois and Oregon or California, where they're intentionally obstructing ICE, it's virtually impossible.
Okay, so, you know, the Center for Immigration Studies, now, Mike Howell and people disagree with some of these numbers, but the rough number may be 1.5 million to 2 million self-deportations in the first year.
Now, Mike Howell and some guys say, hey, that number could be 400 or 500,000, but still a lot of people self-deported.
The reason for that was the visibility of what you coming out with what got and putting the media there in Texas, in California, and in Chicago.
People got the idea, particularly people will tell you in Texas and in California and some Arizona, people just left and they left it in big droves.
You're not going to get that because now you can even see this in Texas, particularly in places like Dallas and these because these blue cities, Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, you've got the same problem.
They're not sanctuary because they can't because the state's too tough down here.
But as you saw, they had the jury nullification the other day on Trende Aragorn torturing a guy in front of his, I think, nieces and nephews and then killing him in cold blood.
Two mistrials, the guy walks.
You've seen the situation on missed trial the other day because of the lawyer in the Antifa trial.
I think that was like there's got 20 people.
There's another aspect of this going on where they've killed another, I think it was another ICE officer.
All throughout Texas, you see this problem that we didn't have a year ago.
And it just seems to me, if you're just back to onesies, twosies, this is, and I realize this is a midterm strategy.
I don't happen to think it works because I do think people are enthusiastic.
We just had Steve Cortez on here today that said in Wisconsin, it's like a 30-point gap of people that support in the Hispanic community that supports up there stronger enforcement, particularly the beginning of mass deportations.
President Trump was in Corpus Christi.
We understand now if Virginia, if these seats in Virginia, the 10 to 1 goes, the entire holding of the House could be those three Hispanic American seats that are being created down in South Texas.
So how does the word get back to Homan and these guys that, hey, people actually, and particularly people in like in places like Arizona and Texas, support this and want to see more of it?
The way we win this is by lowering the hammer on Antifa activists and these scumbags in these cities.
The problem, as you mentioned, is you have activist Antifa judges that side with these guys.
So there has to be consequences.
And this goes back to what you mentioned it.
Mike Banks, I interviewed Mike Banks, the chief of the Border Patrol, just a few weeks ago.
And he said every single surge operation they did in America resulted in exponential increases in the CBP home app being used and the self-port deportations happening.
It's exactly because that the illegals in those communities knew their days were numbered and they knew they better get out now and take that free money and go home versus getting a one-way ticket out of here and never being able to come back.
It has to be a combination of those things, but there has to be consequences for the people that are terrorists that are attacking ICE.
And if that doesn't happen, I just don't see it happening.
And the American people need to tell Tom Homan, they need to tell President Trump that they back them.
We need to hear this across the entire country in every state.
If you support President Trump, if you support Tom Homan, if you support ICE and mass deportation, they need to hear you now, not six weeks from now, not after the midterms when it's too late.
They need to hear it now.
They need to know they want all gas, no breaks, deport everyone, mass deportations.
Otherwise, mainstream media is pushing the narrative that America doesn't care.
In fact, America is turning against ICE.
America wants less deportations.
That's an absolute lie.
The only place you find that are in the communist, jihadist utopias in America that have already defunded their police, that have already neutered law enforcement.
That's not America.
We have to have regular America stand up and say that's not what we want.
I can tell you with some of these people in these blue cities in Texas and some of this jury is scary because they're now passing out brochures to train people in the cities on jury nullification.
So it's very, very, very scary.
Ben, real quickly, what was the esprit of core of the officers out in Arizona?
You know what, man, their mentality is they just want to do their job.
And every single one I've asked through the ups and the downs through last year, through this year, through every one of them says they thank God President Trump's in office.
Their morale was the lowest it had ever been under Joe Biden because they couldn't do their job in action.
In fact, I'll be releasing some of those interviews I did in Arizona.
They said these are seasoned veteran officers who've been in the service for 15, 16, 17 years who said this is the first time in their career that they've finally been able to fully do their job.
They love it.
They just want the handcuffs off.
They want to be able to do it.
And they want to know that America and the Justice Department has their back in doing their job.
And I think I'm not sure if that was to one, he wanted to address him with the congressman, but I think that, like you said, kind of forgot maybe that he's running for this seat.
But if you can hear the sound of my voice and you have not voted in this election and you are in the state of Texas, you need to make sure that you get to your polling location on voting day on game day, because this is a very important election.
Well, and I want to tell you, the early voting counts will have more on the marshal for tonight.
The Republicans, because a lot of people don't like early voting here, particularly what I call the dock chambers, the more hardcore war room posse.
They're not into early voting.
You're not going to change your mind.
That being said, we've had, I think we've overperformed so far for a midterm year.
The problem is the Democrats have a tsunami.
We just have to face the fact that they're very organized to have a ton of outside money.
I keep telling people, if they're successful in this primary and putting up numbers that are bigger, you're going to have a billion dollars flooded into the state from nefarious groups to support this.
We're going to have a, and I think we could have a couple of runoffs unless Paxton is really running through the tape right now.
Cornyn, I think, has spent close to 80 million dollars in almost all negative ads, except he took out kind of a phony Sharia ad when we made that a big deal here.
But Ken Paxon, $3.6 million.
It's just not the resources there.
Let's jump for a second.
Mike Lindell's joined us, Mike.
We missed you in the last hour because the president wrapped up late.
President was on a roll, as you've seen him, Mike Lindell, and Corpus Christie.
I didn't think he wanted to get off stage because it was hitting it on all cylinders.
I know you're running for governor, but what the war and posse wants to hear from you late on a Friday afternoon, early on a Friday evening, is what is the deal?