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Episode 5158: The Battle In Georgia Has Just Begun; Fight Against Roundup

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Participants
Main
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camryn kinsey
06:07
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steve bannon
r 24:01
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tony lyons
06:45
Appearances
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harry haury
02:32
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jason frazier
r 01:34
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joe hoft
02:27
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john gardner
02:17
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mike lindell
r 02:09
Clips
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jake tapper
cnn 00:10
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Speaker Time Text
Fulton County's Dying Regime 00:14:10
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, bombshell ruling a moment ago.
It is Friday, the 21st of February, the year of our Lord, 2026.
Bombshell ruling moments ago, 6-3, overruling or saying unconstitutional President Trump's emergency tariffs that he used IEPA to say it's a national security issue.
It is a national security issue.
This is going to have massive, massive implications.
We talk about economic warfare and we talk about the ability to kind of manage what's happening in Iran right now.
If you just leave the United States with military force, I don't know.
This is going to have massive consequences.
And now I understand that about getting the money back or what's going to happen, they're going to push that down to federal courts.
So now we're going to be tied up on that for years.
Anyway, President, waiting for the White House to give some guidance here.
Peter Navarro was going to join us today about the missing GDP because of the Democrat shutdown.
Democrats realize they have leverage here and they're going to use that leverage.
Do they have leverage in Georgia to make sure they get past the stealing of the 2020 election and sorting this mess out so 2026 cannot be stolen?
Harry, just give me a minute.
You've made the statement that this is a criminal.
You believe this is criminal, not just some sort of incompetence, not people that should have known better but didn't, not people that were working hard and the data just didn't set up.
You're saying, number one, it's not, it's 2020 was not certifiable and you believe was not certifiable because of actual criminal activity.
Did I read that correctly?
harry haury
Correct.
I mean, the problem here is that we, between the missing digital signatures and another piece where the early voting tabulator tapes are not retained, you don't have any provenance that's required by state law on these ballots.
There's over 300,000 ballots that were counted.
And there's two aspects of this.
The first is that they were counted, even though they had tainted provenance.
If this was an election, not an election, but a criminal evidence locker, for instance, this data would not be admissible in court.
I mean, the whole provenance behind it has been destroyed.
The second piece, though, that's staggering is that they know this at the time that they are submitting these counts for accumulation in the statewide voting system.
At that moment in time, they make a choice.
It's a conscious choice to put illegal ballots.
That's what they're called.
They don't have the proper legal authorization to be counted.
They make the choice to count them.
Over 315,000 ballots in Georgia should never have been counted.
And why do we know it's a choice?
Because it was still reversible.
They could have recounted all 315,000 and corrected whatever problem.
Let's say it's not malice, even though it looks like malice, frankly, from an expert perspective.
But the fact of the matter is, let's say it was just an accident.
They decide to throw these 315,000 broken ballots into the system and count them anyway.
unidentified
This is a conscious choice.
steve bannon
Okay.
This is not an accident.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
This is so important.
And make sure you pull this clip, Grayson Moe, and push it because every time they say they go, well, there was this 300,000 thing we just found out about, but that was just a clerical error and didn't mean anything.
This is what they're trying to do.
Harry, I want everybody to go over to your site.
What you're exposing now in Georgia and Pennsylvania is nothing short of jaw-dropping.
And as I told you in your press release, I think you've buried the lead.
I would have put in the headlines.
You believe you've seen criminal intent on this.
This just couldn't be incompetence or it couldn't be laziness.
It's got to be something else.
harry haury
It made a decision to keep those in the system.
They made a decision.
steve bannon
Yes, a conscious decision.
Harry, where do people go?
I want to break over your site.
harry haury
I'm sorry, Unite, the number four, freedom.com.
Donations and volunteers are needed.
By the way, we completely endorse Jason's findings.
We've done the same type of work as he probably knows fully, but the fact of the matter is we find the same problems with voter registration roles, but everybody gets into this noisy cloud, bad signal-to-noise ratio.
But these types of things with regard to clearly broken and fractured ballots are completely illegal.
You can't count things that don't comply with the law with regard to providence.
So anyway, United for Franklin.
Thank you, sir.
We need your help.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Need volunteers, need donations?
Go check it out.
Talk to Harry directly.
Thank you, sir.
Jason Frazier, they are so afraid of you, they would risk $10,000 fine a day so as not to have you on your rightful position of Fulton County.
Are you going to back off?
And do you recommend that Sally Grubbs and the rest of the team of the Georgia Election Board back off to get to the bottom of this?
jason frazier
I will not back off, Steve.
And I don't believe the state board of elections will back off either.
I mean, we need to find out what happened in 2020.
We need to find out what happened in every election before and after that.
So that way we can one day have clean elections that everyone on both sides of the aisle can trust.
I mean, if you look back, Stacey Abrams, she wasn't happy about how her election was run.
And so this is a bipartisan issue.
Fulton County and several other counties in the state do not run clean elections, period.
So that's all the state board wants.
That's all I want.
We want clean voter rolls.
I think I mentioned to you before that whenever I first started, I found a guy named Missing Missing.
That was his first and last name in the voter rolls, and he voted in the 2020 runoff.
So how do you have that and claim we have the cleanest voter rolls in the country?
It just boggles the mind.
And that's why people are frustrated because you find people at parking lots all over the place that are illegal.
steve bannon
Are you prepared?
Do you understand Sally and yourself?
They're going to bring down the weight of the entire apparatus on you.
You're what stands between them stealing the 2020 election and everything that happened since then and the accountability has to go in just let's move on.
And, you know, I'm a windshield guy, not a rearview mirror guy, right?
Do you understand how the apparatus is going to come down on you?
jason frazier
Yeah, that's that is not something I expected whenever I first got into this.
I had no idea how corrupt Fulton County was.
But at this point, the way I see it is I'm doing this for my kids.
I'm doing this for America.
If I don't do it, who will?
And there's not that many people that understand elections the way I do.
It is my duty as an American citizen to make this happen.
So I'm willing to do whatever it takes.
We just need clean elections.
steve bannon
Jason, social media website, where do people go to track you, follow you?
jason frazier
Yeah, they can find me at Jason Frazier USA on X.
And that's my only social media.
So I just try to bring the truth and let people know what's really happening in Fulton County.
steve bannon
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate you and your fight.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Joe Hoft, they've tried to bankrupt your brother.
They've tried to bankrupt Gateway Pundit.
They've tried to run you down.
They've tried to destroy JoeHoft.com.
Your closing thoughts on this and observations.
joe hoft
Yeah, thanks, Steve.
And that's right.
And that's a fair warning to these other guys, too.
You stand up against this behemoth, this monster.
God knows who's behind it all, whether it's international or what.
And you are going to face some challenges, believe me.
But as I look at all this, Harry's information is outstanding.
Jason's doing great work too.
But it brings me back to just days after the 2020 election.
We had a senator and a former judge release a report where he basically said that any of the anything, any results from this election should be considered untrustworthy.
We had President Trump have his own auditor provide him an analysis of what went on.
He had tens of thousands of issues and he and Trump used that information to talk to Raffensperger.
And then Raffensberger leaked the call to the media and they claimed that Trump was trying to steal the election by saying, hey, we've got all this.
There's only, you know, you don't have 11,000 votes here.
What's going on?
Trump's asking these guys what's going on.
Joe Rossi, a professor, I believe, and an engineer, has done great work since the election.
He looked at both the certified machine recount and the hand counts, and he says they violated Georgia law.
And here's the kicker.
The CISA, the CISA, said that basically the machines used in Georgia, this is two years after the election, comes out with a report and says the machines are not secure.
A bad actor can hack in and a bad actor can flip an election and they use these machines akin going forward.
This is outrageous stuff.
I've told you, I've shared before that I've done audits around the world.
I've done audits in communist China, fraud, multi-million dollar fraud audits in Japan and around the world.
I've never seen anything so broken.
MSNBC or MS Now or whatever they call themselves now, they'll never have me on because they don't want me as a professional, objective, independent auditor to say, this is a mess.
This is what we saw across the country.
And we're still gathering more and more and more information.
And even the government, the CISA, said this was a mess.
steve bannon
This is the kind of guy Raffensberger is.
The president has this conversation with Meadows, I think, clear to other people.
And of course, he leaks it to the media.
And President Trump is saying, hey, look, it's 10,000, 11,000 votes.
What's going on?
We now know there's hundreds of thousands, hundreds of thousands.
Why do you think if Raffensberger had answers, why does it take the Georgia Election Board in February of 2026?
Just ask yourself this.
When you've had these people that have been patient and you have the Fulton County people saying, hey, we've asked the Secretary of State, they won't help us.
We won't get the information from them.
This is Fulton County, that the Georgia Election Board has got a subpoena and don't think he's going to answer up that subpoena.
That whole thing is going to go to court.
You know why?
He does not want to come back and sit there and have it streamed on Real America's Voice in the war room as he's got to answer questions that there are no answers to.
And that there were hundreds of thousands.
You got Harry Harry saying, well, hey, bro, these were acts of commission.
There's criminal intent here.
Rossenbergers doesn't want to do that.
He's going to fight it tooth and nail.
Don't think he's going to just show up.
If he had the answers and he had a plausible, even just incompetence, he would be there.
And yet they wanted to put Trump in prison on that very phone call.
Fonnie Willis, you saw the whole circus.
They roll up.
They try to bankrupt Rudy.
They try to bankrupt Jim Hoft.
Get shut down Gateway Pundit.
They were going to put other people in prison, but they wanted Trump in prison until he died in this whole thing.
And they don't have the common decency to step forward.
This is why, folks, this is one of the greatest examples of American patriotism.
These heroes in Georgia that had every opportunity from Caroline Jeffers to all of them, Garland Favreau, just to throw in the tower's too hard.
It's costing too much money.
They're trying to bankrupt me.
You know, they're going to try to send me to prison.
They stood in the breach, and we are where we are.
And hey, standing in the breach, I got news for you.
The hard part's just about to start because they ain't sending Abby Lowell and Norm Eisen down there unless they know they have a massive problem.
And the massive problem is all of these issues we're dealing with the country today, including the invasion of 20 to 25 million illegal alien invaders.
You got the Bruce Springsteen song, the streets of Minneapolis.
All of it in the mass deportations and the fight and the deficits and the $7 trillion Biden spent, everything to destroy this country.
The railhead of it is 2020, and the inner mechanics of it is in Fulton County, in Maricopa County, and in Philadelphia, and in Detroit, and in Milwaukee.
And we know it, and they know it, and they know we know it.
So now it's a test of political wills.
There's no way to negotiate this.
There's no middle ground.
We either take this all the way to its logical conclusion or we've given up the country.
Joe Hoff, where do people go, sir?
joe hoft
Go to joehoff.com, the gateway pundit, real Joe Hoft on Twitter.
And, you know, here's a final note.
Raffensperger's siding with Norm Eisen now.
That should say it all.
steve bannon
Of course, he's siding with Norm.
Norm Eisen's his lawyer.
Incredible Progress in Politics 00:12:04
steve bannon
Abby Lowell.
Thank you, Joe.
Say hi to your brother.
Fantastic work.
The Hoffs.
They had to get rid of Gateway Pundit.
They got to shut that down.
That's for bankruptcy.
How many years in prison did Fonnie Willis want to Trump?
On all lies.
All lies.
All lies.
Remember that.
All lies.
Not some lies, all lies.
To protect themselves.
Take it out with Bruce Branstein.
Look at that.
That's a revolution because they want to keep 25 million illegal alien invaders in this country.
Short break.
Tony Lyons, make America Healthy Again.
The Coalition.
are we?
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
Okay, Tony Lyons.
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Tony Lyons, we've been talking.
I've tried to get you on a couple of times.
We've been jammed.
You know, you've been traveling.
You're down there with Bobby a lot to really get an update as we start the beginning of the second year of President Trump's second term.
We talk about the coalition, which you were so important in working with Bobby, putting together the Make America Healthy Coalition.
And then lo and behold, we kind of have a bombshell yesterday, this executive order.
Before I talk about this, about Roundup, what state, given what Bobby's trying to get done over at HHS, what is the state prior to the Roundup issue yesterday?
Because I understand people have, some people are very upset about this.
Up until that time, the progress we're making and how are we doing on Make America Healthy again, sir?
tony lyons
I think there's just been incredible progress.
And there are going to be all kinds of people who are going to try to tear that down.
And that's, you know, big pharma, big ag, you know, all of these companies want to make it look like this is failing, want to make it look like Maha is destroying itself, is disagreeing with itself, you know.
But the truth is, I mean, the real truth is that the progress has been just existential, that, you know, changing the dietary guidelines, turning them upside down so that children start to eat protein in school.
That's just a game changer.
It's a body blow to pharmaceutical companies who have been treating these kids who are eating chemicals in school, who are eating sugar in school, eating donuts in school.
I mean, this is such a big change.
And then they're the, you know, the major food brands taking artificial dyes out.
The SNAP program getting rid of the right for people who get money from taxpayers to spend 25% of it on candy and soda.
That's just, that's millions of people eating healthier food.
School lunches, you know, millions and millions of children heading towards eating healthier food, drinking whole milk in schools rather than, you know, drinking sodas.
You know, the vaccine schedule changing, going from 17 down to 10.
You know, that is a major change.
That's the first time in a generation where that's gone down.
That is millions and millions of children getting fewer toxins in their body, fewer drugs, fewer chemicals that they don't need, then getting mercury out of the flu vaccine, getting rid of the Hep B vaccine at birth, getting rid of COVID vaccines for healthy children, for pregnant women.
And then the incredible Super Bowl ad that we just ran that was viewed 150 million times, telling people that Hundreds of thousands of people are dying in this country because they're eating ultra-processed food and not real food.
And Mike Tyson saying that and that getting through so much that 60 minutes had to rush out and get people on there to try to co-op that.
steve bannon
I want to go back for something.
If you look at your verticals, nobody, maybe only the defense industry, but there it's a different relationship.
Bobby Kennedy and what Bobby Kennedy said, because I am awestruck by what Bobby Kennedy has done in his first year as HHS.
It's just, it's unbelievable.
And here's why.
And President Trump has had his back every step of the way.
But if you look at big pharma and the big pharma and the big, the big distribution companies, McKesson and the drugstores, if you look at the food processors, what they're doing with food processing, right?
And if you look at what he's doing with like the agricultural component of this.
So you got the food processors, you got big pharma, big ag, and the big food process.
Folks, there ain't more money in DC.
The big tech bros, I think maybe, but you got this.
These are immovable objects.
Why are they immovable objects?
Because they're embedded in deep into the swamp in DC.
They have lobbyists, lawyers, spots.
They spread money into every congressional district.
You're just not walking in there.
So every dragon he's slain is a massive dragon with a huge tail and 50 other dragons to back him up.
That's why I'm awestruck of the momentum we've made in every of these three big verticals.
And Bobby Kennedy ain't afraid of any of them.
Like I said the other day, having taken on big ag and taken on big pharma, he then goes after the big food companies with the ultra-processed food, which is they ultra-process it because the margins are so high on candy and sodas.
They're not high on, if you get great farm to table and you get the real food, the margins are relatively thin.
The margins are huge when they process and he's going right for it.
So what stunned me, Tony, is he ain't backing off.
He's going after the biggest of the big, the toughest, the most entrenched, and he's not backing off an inch.
And President Trump's got his back.
In fact, on vaccines, I think President Trump's actually out ahead of you guys.
tony lyons
100%.
I mean, President Trump is the most in line president with Maha principles of any president in the last generation.
There's no question about that.
And the things that activists disagree with.
And let me just say, I am 100% behind Maha Moms.
I want people to come out and yell and post on every social media platform.
That's something that we couldn't do under President Biden.
That was stifled.
There was no dissent in this country.
But now you can say whatever you want.
And we need that disagreement.
We need that dialogue.
We need people to go out and tell the American public.
And part of the success of the Maha Green, you know, the Maha movement is all the disagreement that we have: everybody in America knows what ultra-processed foods are.
Everybody in America knows now that there was mercury in the flu vaccine.
Everybody knows that seed oils are bad for you, that beef tallow is better than cooking with other oils.
There's been just incredible progress and it's been cultural progress, but we need all this disagreement.
We need a vibrant argument to be made every day on social media between everybody.
So there's no problem there.
That's success.
That's not failure.
steve bannon
By the way, you don't come.
I mean, politically, you weren't one of us or close to being one of us when President Trump came.
You were somebody who always believed in free speech in the First Amendment, and you saw the left was conforming to the system.
And on the right, you saw Trump as a disruptor.
And like War Room and these other people, the beginning of the dissident moms were part of that.
Who many of those people were either moderates or some of them were Democrats when this started?
And they said, no, these guys are taking on the system.
They're trying to disrupt the system.
I want to be part of that.
And that's where you see, and that's where we see it today, is it not, Tony?
tony lyons
Well, you know, President Trump is more of an old-time Democrat than any Democrat now.
You know, he's pro-free speech.
He's anti-censorship.
You know, he's anti-war.
I mean, he is out there doing all the things that Democrats would have been for in the past.
You know, he's an outsider challenging the status quo, challenging all of these big companies, but not doing it in some obvious way that he knows that he has to have practical common sense ways to solve problems.
And if you can't do that, then you're just yelling and screaming.
You have to be able to solve problems.
You have to realize this is politics.
It's complicated.
We're heading in the right direction.
There's incredible progress being made.
There's a lot that's going to be made.
We're just getting started.
It's only one year.
So, you know, these are wins.
All of these are wins, even the disagreements, even the people yelling and screaming at each other.
That's democracy in action.
That's freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of ideas.
That's what we've all wanted, and that's what we're getting now.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to hold you through the break.
We've got about a minute.
I just want to tee up Roundup because I think this caught people by surprise.
One of the big efforts was about, you know, agriculture is the most important thing when we talk about health.
A lot of the Maha moms are the anti-food processing, all of it.
And then you had this executive order on Roundup.
Can you give me a minute, put it in perspective?
I'm going to hold you through the break and we'll continue the conversation.
tony lyons
Sure.
So, no question, glyphosate is bad.
We all know that.
Every side, Democrats, Republicans, farmers, politicians, President Trump, Secretary Kennedy.
I mean, Secretary Kennedy sued Monsanto, won one of the biggest judgments in history for that.
So, you know, but despite all these lawsuits and despite the widespread recognition that glyphosate is bad, we have a problem, which is that we need to solve this practical situation where 80% of farmers rely on glyphosate now.
Farmers' Concerns Protected 00:04:56
tony lyons
So banning it outright doesn't work.
So we need to look at new technologies.
We need to fast-track regulatory pathways, look at next generation biopesticides.
Bobby Kennedy talks all about lasers.
Maybe that's an answer.
We need to have tax incentives.
We need to have innovation.
That's how we're going to have progress.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
I want to hold you and just drill down on this a little bit more because some people are shocked about it given the original stance of Make America Healthy Again.
Tony Lyons is with us.
We're going to get back to tariffs here in a moment.
Horrific, horrific, historic day in the United States emerged from the Supreme Court of the United States.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
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I don't think John Gardner is going to join us.
He was there last night as we analyzed the Georgia speech.
And this was clearly Roberts.
Tony Lyons is with us.
I think sometimes with President Trump, we forget the monumental institutions that he's trying to change, like on tariffs.
And this tariff thing is going to be horrific, but it goes back to the beginning of the Republic of what we bet, the American system.
President Trump built his entire economic program around this.
We're going to break it down all for you.
But at the same time, he's trying to reform, like Make America Healthy Again.
You know, it's big pharma, it's big agriculture, it's the big food processors.
These are 20, 30, 50, 40 billion dollar companies, $100 billion companies with every lawyer, every crisis communications person, dug in, spreading money in every congressional district, every Senate race, every party, all these, all these dark money funds.
That's why Bobby Kennedy is kind of like, you know, he's slaying dragons, and President Trump's got his back.
And this situation, just explain it to me one more time.
You got the Maha moms, they ain't happy, right?
And President Trump's saying, hey, I think we got a national security problem because 80%, like it or not, 80% of our farmers are kind of hooked to this thing and we got to figure it out.
I don't like it.
I back Bobby's initial executive order, but we are where we are.
Are all the parties doing what they are supposed to do, Tony Lyons?
tony lyons
I think they are.
I mean, we all know that we have to get rid of glyphosate.
The question is, how to get there?
We all know we have to get rid of all kinds of dangerous chemicals.
And the question is, what's the best way to get there?
What are practical, common sense ways to get there?
And President Trump knows that.
He's thinking all of this kind of thing through, and you see that.
And he wants to partner, collaborate, talk to people on all sides.
Secretary Kennedy wants to do that.
We all recognize that it's not feasible to ban things, that we have to set up a system that leads towards better, healthier products across the board with incentives, with subsidies, with tax credits, with faster approvals, procurement preferences.
This has got to be something that makes sense, that protects farmers, that protects the public, and that leads towards the end of the chronic disease epidemic.
That's what winning looks like.
steve bannon
Tony, where do people go to track you down?
You're a very liberal or First Amendment book publisher that now has become one of the fire breathers of MAGA and definitely Bobby's partner over the Make America Healthy Again, where they get the sky horse, war room publishing, all of it, and everything you've got up on Make America Healthy Again.
tony lyons
Yeah, they should go to mahaaction.com.
They can follow me on Instagram at Tony Lyons is uncertain.
IRS Enforcement Ramp-Up 00:07:41
tony lyons
They can find all of the war room books at skyhorsepublishing.com.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
All the work you've been doing.
A huge part of his life now is dedicated to this.
Thank you, sir.
Cameron Kinsey.
If everybody, you know, President Trump said, hey, look, I want to do away with personal income tax, but it was an objective.
And the reason I'm going to do it, I'm going to get up to a trillion dollars of tariffs coming here.
We're going to get back to the system before the income tax.
Well, folks, that was a dream of President Trump and an objective of President Trump.
Okay, that ain't happening.
Of all the other issues we've got to deal with, and here's the reason.
The Supreme Court just struck down his emergency use of tariffs.
And now we're back to it.
So, and we were going to do $900 billion this year.
So the deficit, and that was going to help close the deficit.
That's not going to happen.
And the lower federal courts are going to unwind this.
What does that mean?
The IRS under Scott Besson got a bigger problem than they ever got, right?
And they're going to have to, if they, what they think you owe is what they're going to drive.
And what you think you owe or an independent body like Tax Network USA.
And Cameron, this is why I'm so honored to be working with you guys.
And the fact you came up with this idea of, hey, let's give people, let's take the anxiety away.
Let's take the angst away.
Let's give them a free discovery call so they understand what the bid and the ask is, what the IRS thinks and where you really stand.
I have gotten so many phone calls because there's nothing more personal that people feel uncomfortable about than their taxes.
And they get a letter from the IRS if they're behind or if they're going to have a lien.
The concept you guys came up with is, hey, let's let's, it's costing a couple hundred bucks, a couple thousand bucks, but we'll do it to help these people out because we're looking for clients and this is a great way to get them.
This has been a game changer on people's lives.
So many people have come to me and said, hey, I've gone over there and I've actually now have a real feel for what I owe so I can address it like an adult.
I don't have to hide from it.
Your thoughts, ma'am.
camryn kinsey
Yes.
Well, Steve, thank you so much for having me back on.
It's always an honor to speak directly to the war room posse.
I'm so grateful.
And right now we're in the heart of tax season.
I mean, the enforcement is ramping up.
Everyday Americans are feeling squeezed from every single direction.
I mean, families are still recovering from inflation, rising costs that we saw under the previous term.
And now the last thing that they want is the federal government coming after them with aggressive tax collections.
But a little bit about us, Tax Network USA.
We're one of the nation's leading tax firms.
We help everyday Americans and business owners fight back against aggressive IRS enforcement and just navigate a system that can feel overwhelming or just stacked against them.
And so our team includes licensed CPAs.
We have enrolled agents, tax attorneys, even former IRS agents who understand exactly how this agency operates.
We know their procedures, their pressure points, the tax code inside and out, and they know the system that we are up against.
And they use that knowledge to protect our clients.
And before I even go further, Steve, I want to share something personal with you in the audience about why I became the spokesperson for Tax Network USA, because I will tell you right now, I am not a tax expert.
But during the Biden administration, we watched the weaponization of federal agencies across the board.
But what stood out to me was how the IRS enforcement disproportionately impacted low-income families and small business owners like my dad, who just simply did not have the resources to fight back.
These were not billionaires with a team of lawyers.
The clients that Tax Network USA saw at the time were working parents, retirees, entrepreneurs trying to survive in that difficult economy.
And so I just saw people being buried with penalties, interest from honest mistakes or hardship status.
And so that's really why I wanted to join Tax Network USA as their spokesman, just to bring more awareness that there are professionals out there who will be in your corner through all of this.
Now, switching gears here for a moment, Steve, because this is important, I wanted to bring this up with you today.
With that being said, some people believe because President Trump is back in office, they somehow get a free pass when it comes to taxes or filing requirements.
Some people just assume because there's different policy priorities, that means that the IRS is going to ease up or that enforcement will slow down.
And those people could not be more wrong, unfortunately.
The IRS still has a mandate to collect revenue regardless of who is president.
So that idea that you can ignore the violence.
steve bannon
This is so important.
This is so important.
This is why I wanted you on today.
A couple of things.
Scott Bessant was a contributor here.
You know, we fought very hard to make sure Scott was Secretary of Treasury.
I think that worked out.
We've known Scott a long time.
Scott is basically overseeing the IRS.
Scott's mandate from the president is that, hey, you got to get all the cash that the IRS thinks they're going to get.
And Scott's going to get it.
I mean, Scott's, he loves warrant policy.
He comes from the working class down at Myrtle Beach, but his mandate is he's got to get what they think you owe.
The other thing is President Trump did have an overarching concept to return to the 19th century as far as how you finance the country, saying, I don't really agree with personal income tax.
I think tariffs will pay for it.
That was a long-term view that might take in 20 or 30 years to begin with.
Folks, that is done as of today.
The Supreme Court of the United States is basically taking this tariff situation out of the president's hand.
And that's going to be a massive fight.
But anybody sitting there and thinking it's some fantasy that I don't have to pay my taxes because President Trump is president and I'm MAGA.
The world doesn't work like that.
And that's why if you owe money, if you got a letter, that letter, they're still going to accumulate fees, interest, all of it.
Address it.
This is what's so powerful about what Tax Network USA has done.
They said, okay, hang on.
Come to us.
We've got the experts.
We have the expertise and we know who to talk to.
Come to us and we'll actually give you a free discovery call.
We're not going to charge you the couple of hundred bucks or the thousand bucks or whatever to basically see what your position is.
That's what's been such a game changer and take the angst and anxiety away.
Talk to me about that, Cameron, because this thing about you don't have to file.
You need to drop that immediately.
President Trump is not stopping the filing of your income taxes and the collection of the money the IRS thinks you owe.
And this is what the free assessment and discovery is to actually see what's the difference between the bid and the ask, what the IRS says versus what Tax Network USA says, and maybe where a negotiation can take place, Cameron.
camryn kinsey
Well, exactly.
I mean, historically, the IRS has focused most of its aggressive collection efforts on taxpayers who owed, make maybe $50,000 or more.
That was often the threshold where you saw liens, levies, enforcement actions escalate.
And what we're seeing now, as of recent years, has been a shift.
The IRS has been becoming more aggressive with people who owe far less.
We're seeing enforcement actions for smaller balances, increased pressure over unfiled tax returns, faster escalation timelines.
I mean, it's truly BS, Steve.
So if you haven't filed in years, that alone can trigger enforcement.
And that's not the IRS slowing down.
And when agencies face workforce reduction or restructuring like they have under Trump's administration during the transition, the remaining employees often become more efficiency driven because, well, they don't want to get fired.
So that can mean faster processing for them, more targeted enforcement, greater focus on collections.
So the idea of fewer agents means less enforcement is just simply not the reality.
Like you said, Steve, and it often just means the opposite.
Providing Proper Care 00:03:26
camryn kinsey
But the clients that we help will always remain steady.
We work with people from all different walks of life, salaried employees, retirees on fixed incomes, independent contractors, gig workers, veterans, small business owners, you name it.
They're trying to keep their doors open and they're trying to keep their employees paid.
So whether it's somebody dealing with unfiled tax returns, mounting penalties and interest, IRS audits, wage garnishments, bank levies, payroll tax issues, liens on their home or businesses, we have seen it before.
We know how to handle it.
And I want to tell the audience today, we have way too many people coming from the war room posse who may be too afraid to act or they don't tell the whole story because they're too embarrassed.
You should not be embarrassed.
We have seen every single case in the book and we know exactly how to help you.
We treat every single case with care.
We are in your corner.
We know the tax code inside and out.
You just have to take that step and come to us.
Bring the necessary documents.
We will walk you through everything.
When you initially get on the phone with one of our teammates, they will give you all the necessary proper care that you need.
They will go over it step by step.
It's a free consultation.
You may decide I don't want to work with us anymore.
That's completely fine.
We want to talk to you.
We just want to be a resource.
We expect nothing.
And like you said, Steve, just to go over briefly of the Black Friday deal that we did, like you said, it's such a success.
I mean, we had that free discovery call normally that costs hundreds of dollars, if not thousands.
And we only do that for clients once we take on.
steve bannon
Hang on.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
The volume of calls has been so enormous.
We actually have a new number.
We're going to get all that to you on the other side.
I know this makes you feel good.
Bruce Springsteen takes you out.
Back with Cameron Kinsey in a moment.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, to get this special offer of a free discovery call, text network, tnusa.com, promo code Bannon slash Bannon.
Or they've set up a new phone.
They were so overwhelming of the calls they got.
They set up a new number just for the free discovery call.
1-866-513-5516.
You get a free discovery call.
Say I'm from the war room.
You get a free discovery call.
Cameron, one more time about the free discovery call.
Where do folks go?
camryn kinsey
Yep.
You go to tnusa.com slash bannon, call one of our team members, 866-513-5516.
We're going to find out what the flags are on your account, see if any enforcement's pending, give you a clearer picture of where you stand before you make any decisions.
That step alone normally costs hundreds, if not thousands of dollars.
And we're waiving that because we know that this audience has been taking action.
This deadline is coming up.
Do not wait a couple of weeks to a month before.
Get ahead of this.
The worst thing you can do for your situation is wait.
So, Bannon, let's get these people out here.
It's 866-513-5516.
Tell them that Cameron Kinsey sent you.
steve bannon
Let's do it.
Do it today.
Free discovery call.
Cameron, thank you so much.
And thank the senior management over there for thinking of this.
Reviving Manufacturing Might 00:03:51
steve bannon
It's changed people's lives.
I know people are very intimidated.
I've talked to a lot of people who've gone through it.
They feel so much better and they're taking action on taking care of this problem.
Thank you, ma'am.
camryn kinsey
Thank you so much, Steve.
steve bannon
Action, action, action.
John Gardner, you were with us last night.
In fact, President Trump went so long on the speech yesterday, we actually rolled you over to Texas because Texas has got the same issue.
You got so many small manufacturing companies, as you said.
Of the 12.8 million manufacturing jobs in this country, I think it's, is it 80% are from, or 90% are from companies that have 50 employees or less.
You walk through the American system.
You walk through why President Trump's tariff plan was brilliant.
It's bringing jobs back.
Is bringing small, particularly small manufacturing back to make us a manufacturing superpower once again.
The Supreme Court struck it down.
So, John Gardner, why are you, Alexander Hamilton, and President Donald Trump correct?
And Chief Justice Roberts, why is he wrong?
john gardner
They're wrong.
And President Trump is right.
Adam Smith said of the four exceptions he made for tariffs.
One was national security.
Even Milton Freeman, the unilateral free trader himself, said national security comes first.
And in 2013, General John Adams said America's vulnerability today is frightening.
Excessive and unwise outsourcing of American manufacturing to other nations weakens American military capabilities.
And that was in 2013 when we probably had about 14 to 15 million people employed in the manufacturing industry.
We have been gutted.
This is highly personal for me because I've worked in the manufacturing industry for 21 years, owned my own business.
And, you know, during the Great Recession in 2008, 2009, I had to wait tables at night to make sure my manufacturing business survived.
Well, I saw big banks being bailed out.
So I think what you said earlier today, Steve, about President Trump taking on massive things that we can't even comprehend the power behind 55 years of de-industrialization, cheering on the deconstruction of the manufacturing might that our founding fathers built.
You know, manufacturing might help the North beat the agricultural power of the South during the Civil War.
Manufacturing might is what won America World War II.
And then it created the greatest middle class in the history of the world from 1945 to 70.
And then we decided to deconstruct that.
And so I know tariffs work.
jason frazier
I live this.
john gardner
I want the audience to understand I am not an academic.
I don't, you know, I run a manufacturing business all day long and I have done so for 21 years.
And I have seen the tariffs work.
A really good example is Dr. Navarro just talked about how we opened up a new aluminum smelter refinery.
Guess what?
Four aluminum refineries closed between 2020, 2024 during the Biden administration, cutting off 30 to 40% of America's refining capacity in four years.
We lost four years.
steve bannon
Well, aluminum refining capacity.
President Trump said that manufacturing place yesterday, and every guy came up there and said, if it wasn't for your tariffs, we wouldn't be at full capacity and making more capital expenditures.
We got to, John, where do people go to your site?
Obviously, starting this afternoon, we're going to be wall to wall on this.
A terrible, terrible, terrible decision by the Supreme Court.
President Trump's got to think it through.
It's the wrong decision.
john gardner
The president should have emergency powers for national security and manufacturing and trade deficit are national security.
John Gardnerauthor.com and John Gardner, VOH on X, Getter, and Instagram.
steve bannon
Gardner, you're a good man.
We got a big fight here now.
Mega Sale for Secure Elections 00:02:39
steve bannon
Got to regroup.
Got a big fight.
Mike Lindell, we started in Georgia.
We actually started with John Solomon breaking the story on Brennan and these crooks, all the deep state that try to put us all in prison.
Election integrity in Georgia, we had the mainstream media complete meltdown about what Sally Grubbs and all this team down in Georgia are doing.
Your thoughts, you've been at the forefront of this one of the reasons they try to bankrupt you, sir.
mike lindell
Absolutely.
It all goes back to that, Steve.
We had all this information in early 2021, everybody.
And I think you're just seeing the tip of the spear here, Steve, as these other states, your Arizonas, your Wisconsins, your Pennsylvanians, as this stuff comes out, we're going to be, they're going to fight us every step of the way.
You got to ask yourself, everybody, gee, wonder why?
Because they don't want secure elections.
They don't want secure elections.
They know they cannot even touch the Democrats, the deep state.
They can't win any election if they don't have the opportunity to steal it.
So I'm very happy it's all coming out.
I'm up here right now, Steve, fighting Keith Ellison in Minnesota.
He's still after me, but Operation Arctic Frost going after me, same type of thing.
And you guys, he doesn't want me running for governor here.
You can also check that out, mikelindellgov.com.
We need your help now, you guys.
MikeLindellGov.com.
But I really wanted to get on and tell you about our sale.
I'm bringing back the mega sale for one reason.
You guys had hit this last week.
We ran out of towels and geez a dream sheets.
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We kind of had a crossover.
So you guys, I'm going to extend this through the weekend.
The mega sale combined with, remember, we're moving our factory right now this week in Minnesota here.
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So all of the overstock, if you go to mypillow.com forward/slash war room, this is all for you guys.
The factory sale, all our clothing line, we're closing out.
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We're moving factory.
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I'm right here in my call center.
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Keep those guys busy.
Made in the USA.
These tariffs, Steve, the decision was horrific.
I could sit here and talk for two hours, you guys, how it was helping here in the U.S. We'll see you all tonight.
steve bannon
We'll see you at five o'clock.
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So after that, we are back at 5 p.m. Eastern Time life.
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