WarRoom Battleground EP 949: The Patterns Of Islam Around The Globe Are Coming To America
WarRoom Battleground EP 949 features Stephen K. Bannon and D. Frank Gaffney warning that Texas Islamic groups—backed by $100M in Dallas-Fort Worth influence—push Sharia via courts, business, and primaries like Proposition 10 (March 3, 2025). Gaffney ties it to "civilizational jihad," citing Medina’s Jewish massacres and Obama-era legal setbacks, while urging early voting to block what he calls a creeping Islamic takeover. A Texas victory could spark nationwide bans; failure risks violent imposition, mirroring Europe’s struggles. [Automatically generated summary]
It's Monday, 16 February in the year of our Lord 2025, 26.
What year am I in?
26.
Jenny's story's with me.
Jenny, I say there that through March, it goes on the ballot, but technically, it actually early voting.
We're on the eve of early voting.
We wanted to start with you as been one of the people.
And you pulled off that amazing conference that I think gave people space or permission structure to talk about this issue.
But tomorrow, the voting actually starts.
And early voting is important here.
You know, we saw some lack of motivation in some of the specials.
There is weather all this, but this is the lead up to the game.
And we know this is very serious.
And we know people are taking it very seriously.
Just walk me through from a grassroots perspective because Patriot Mobile is so kind of revered down here by the conservatives, by the grassroots, particularly MAGA.
Walk us through tomorrow, early voting.
Like first off, the groups, the mechanics, and how important is that?
You know, we saw what happened over the special election with the ice storms, and we lost several days of voting.
And I think that was one of the reasons why we had such low turnout was because people simply waited till the last minute.
So we are saying March 3rd, but March 3rd is not the date.
Tomorrow is the date, and let's do every date after that.
So I think encourage your neighbors, encourage everyone to vote.
Prop 10 is creating a lot of excitement about getting to the polls and voting, but it's also creating a lot of excitement on the other side.
So essentially, we've got to make sure that we have more people voting now because I expect that we're going to see a lot of crossover voting.
People are worried about that.
That means we all have to get off our couches and we've got to vote.
Don't rely on your neighbors.
You've got to rely on yourself.
You're living in this country, which is the most wonderful country, and we all have that right to vote, and we should exercise that right to vote.
Please don't rely on your neighbors.
Get out there.
This is an historic moment.
It's also very important for you to vote in the primaries because in November, when you're dissatisfied because you've got a rhino in a very important position, you have no one but yourself to blame.
So please get out and vote during this election period.
Well, early voting is important because you never know what's going to happen.
We could have another ice storm.
Who knows?
Hopefully not.
But relying on your grassroots, they do a lot of candidate vetting and they spend hours looking at the candidates.
One of the folks that we work with is Grassroots America.
They have this thing called the House of Cards.
So if you go up and you look at the House of Cards, you can actually see how incumbent candidates actually vote.
It's just absolutely wonderful.
So you can see, are they really conservatives or are they rhinos?
Or are they voting more with Democrats?
So I would encourage folks, if you're curious about how your incumbents are actually voting, take a look at the House of Cards under Grassroots America.
If you go to our War Room Texas site, I know the Sharia Band Sharia has got them up too.
The grassroots have been efforts.
So tomorrow, we're on the eve of early voting.
It starts tomorrow, runs all the way through, and then game day is 3 March, which is the primary day.
Talk to me, give me a minute on Patriot Mobile.
You guys getting down here and being in this environment, hearing all the great stuff you guys are working on, how much support you've got.
Talk to me about, but we need people to focus on the service and to make a switch so that you guys have the resources that can do all these great things.
So as I've said before, we're an activist company that is supporting its activism by selling top quality cell phone service.
And I haven't said that before because it's a little complicated how I say it, but we are selling the top of the line cell phone service and we have access to all three networks.
So basically whatever you have today, you'll have the same or better.
And you'll speak only with U.S.-based customer support.
And that's key.
We are dedicated to only U.S.-based customer support.
You're going to get somebody with an East Texas accent or one of the missionary students, I guess, you have in California, but there'll be U.S. citizens that you'll know.
One more time.
Early voting starts tomorrow.
Everybody needs to go.
The grassroots have been working on this and take a couple of three people with you.
If you really want to deal with the major issues of immigration with people opting to take benefits rather than working for a living, if you want to deal with that, then you're going to have to do some things which are unpopular and show some courage.
I don't know whether it's just the apparatus that hasn't allowed Kia to do it or he's maybe too nice.
He's a nice, I mean, I know Keir, he's a nice man, I like him, but it's a tough job and I think you have to do some difficult things with the UK to get it back on track because at the moment I don't think the economy's in a good, you can't afford, you can't have an economy with 9 million people on benefits and huge levels of immigrants coming in.
I mean, the UK is being colonized.
It's costing too much money.
It will cause.
The UK is being colonized by immigrants, really, isn't it?
I mean, the population of the UK was 58 million in 2020.
No, it's 70 million.
That's 12 million people.
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You met recently with Neutral Florida, didn't you?
Well, clearly, Reynolds would allow the government to regulate child custody, whether or not the child custody rules were favored or disfavored by a religion.
However, there is a lack in our law of addressing comedy of foreign judgments and the constitutionality of the process by which those foreign courts reach their judgments.
There's even a Ninth Circuit case, the Nauco case, where the Ninth Circuit explicitly said that you can't do a constitutional analysis on a foreign judgment.
So under current law, it appears as though foreign courts can do things that our courts would never imagine doing, would clearly violate constitutional rights.
And those judgments are being brought here.
The judgments are being on many occasions enforced.
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Britain is Darul Harab because they are, you know, anathema to God's law.
They're not implementing it.
They're violating his sanctity.
And therefore, this is war against Allah and His Messenger.
We are obliged as Muslims to take the authority away from the people who have it and implement the Sharia.
Now, I hope that can come in a very peaceful way.
I hope that we can do that in a way, you know, where there's no bloodshed.
The messenger Muhammad said that, you know, if the people, if the Muslims have authority and they have the ability to remove oppression, they must remove the oppression.
So we believe man-made law is oppression because they are implementing non-Islamic law violating their own sanctity.
So, you know, if we are in a position of power and authority, we are obliged to take that authority, you know, with the minimum force and to implement the Sharia, certainly.
So, you know, this will be the case one day in Britain.
And when you talk about jihad, you're not talking about spiritual striving.
You're talking about military jihad.
No, I think there are two types of jihad in which people are engaging in today.
One is the jihad of the word, and the other is jihad of the sword.
So in Britain, we are engaged in the jihad of the word.
And, you know, it's as important to remove the ideological foundation and, if you like, the pillars of Western civilization, like democracy and freedom and secularism, and to expose them and to bring back people to worshiping the one true Lord, which is Allah.
As much as it is important to remove the physical obstacles, which is the non-Islamic regime.
You've had Chip Roy on numerous times and Keith Sell and what they have done, bringing together that caucus of concern of Sharia and those hearings they had with, I saw Robert Spencer attending those hearings, who's our guest on Thursday.
But he was speaking about what is happening in terms of Islam and Sharia and give evidence there at Capitol Hill to that judiciary committee.
So things are really happening.
That grouping, that caucus has now gone to 38, I think.
And there's another great article in Daily Signal called An Inside Look at Congress's new anti-Sharia law caucus.
That's 21st of January.
It's a great piece written by one of their journalists, and that really explains what is happening.
Then I think on the 5th of No, the 5th of this month, 5th of February, we had the Attorney General then begun a lawsuit against CARE because previously CARE have had tax-exempt status.
They have operated freely with the restrictions that the governor put on them.
That stopped them buying land, getting state funding.
But again, this is all state by state.
And I really believe that to take to the next step, we really need the Trump administration to really engage on this because this seems to be pushed from Texas, from Florida.
And we need that, I guess, federal action.
Although the Attorney General can start this lawsuit against care, he can't remove their tax exemptions.
I believe that's the IRS have to do that.
So that is at the top level.
But then, of course, just the last point is the primary.
And I think early voting opens, I think, on the 17th, is that Tuesday?
And that proposition, which is on the ballot, is key to look at banning Sharia in Texas.
And every Texan will have the right to put an X beside that.
I think it's an X or a tick or a number, whatever you do there.
But they will be able to decide as Texans whether they want Sharia law to operate in Texas or not.
And the two main Sharia courts that are operating have over 300 cases a year.
And those women, that's not a choice for those women.
They must comply or else they're thrown out of their cultures, their societies.
They're rejected.
So they don't do it out of duty or desire.
They do it out of compulsion.
And that has to change.
But I think this fight that we are having in Texas with that proposition on the ballot is phenomenal.
What is the 3rd of March is the primary.
So this shows that actually things can happen, things can move ahead.
But I think Texas are really leading that.
And I know, Steve, that is why you're doing Worm Texas Daily.
And I just put weekly in that, just to make sure you read it.
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America, okay, if we don't want them to implement secularism.
So what do we want them to implement?
They say that America now, okay, there is not enough Muslims for them to implement this.
But now it is our challenge as duat, as intellectuals, as academics, to present solutions based on Islamic values, but in the second level degree, not to tell them replace secularism with Islam, it won't work.
Presenting Islam as a civilizational alternative, this needs from us a different way of addressing this generation, addressing, in fact, the whole world.
Trying to get into key positions where you are influencing the decisions, decision-making.
If we are, whatever we do, and we are not influential, we cannot influence how politics is running.
We are not influenced the decision-making processes.
We know that if we were to do this from zero to 100, the people are going to say, we're not going to have this type.
Look at Afghanistan, look at other places.
And people understand they're not going to go from zero to 100 overnight.
Suppose a Muslim party, an Islamic party, comes in and they start changing, you know what?
We want to make sure there's no alcohol being sold.
So can we, for the time being, because here's the point, any type of stuff we do, it's not asthfurullah to substitute the Sharia.
No, it's a program to eventually apply the Sharia, right?
The year that my country was founded, Lorenzo and Catalina Giraldi lived in Casa Monferrato in the kingdom of Piedmont, Sardinia.
And Jose and Manuel Arena lived in Sevilla, Spain.
I don't know what, if anything, they knew about the 13 colonies which had gained their independence from the British Empire.
But here's what I'm certain of.
They could have never imagined that 250 years later, one of their direct descendants would be back here today on this continent as the chief diplomat of that infant nation.
And yet here I am, reminded by my own story that both our histories and our fates will always be linked.
Together, we rebuilt a shattered continent in the wake of two devastating world wars.
When we found ourselves divided once again by the Iron Curtain, the Free West linked arms with the courageous dissidents struggling against tyranny in the East to defeat Soviet communism.
We have fought against each other, then reconciled, then fought, then reconciled again.
And we have bled and died side by side on battlefields from Kapyong to Kandahar.
I didn't want to torture you with, we had enough jihad in there to make you listen to Hillary's also talk over there.
I'll get back to the talks after we have a break at the bottom of the hour because I think it's very important.
They talked about Rubio in a more sophisticated way, Hillary kind of in her hectoring way, oh, protecting borders and limiting migration.
Europe is far past that.
How do I know that?
Frank Gaffney's been a colleague of mine, I don't know, Frank, almost 20 years.
First, Frank, in this segment, what the stakes are.
You were banned at CPAC back in 2008, 2009, I think when we at Breitbart, or it might have been 2012, 2013, put on the, what, you guys were banned and we put on the what?
And they banned you from CPAC because you brought this concept up of civilizational jihad.
A couple of years later, Raheem Qassam and yourself were both banned for Fox because you talked about the rape of these young British girls in these industrial towns in England.
And you talked about no-go zones.
And Raheem went over there and wrote books about Brussels, no-gozens, and you guys were banned for Fox.
So we can't talk about that.
The stakes.
Tomorrow we had Jenny on here.
Early voting starts.
We've got four or five minutes.
I want you to lay out the case for what are the stakes that are involved in this kind of Islamic takeover of the great state of Texas in the banning of Sharia law on the ballot tomorrow, sir.
Well, first, may I just say it was delightful to see Jenny Suri on the program.
She's one of my favorite people, and she's been a great leader on this fight.
You know, I was listening to that cold open, Steve, and I hope that this sophisticated audience, the posse, appreciated the term, I think it was Sharia values, or maybe it was Islamic values.
You got to ask yourself, what are Islamic values?
What is Sharia all about?
And to answer your question about the stakes, start with the proposition that under Islam, the perfect man, the individual who personifies and lived and practiced and has directed all Muslims to follow him in everything he did, is the Prophet Muhammad.
And his values were slavery, treating women as chattel at best, treating children as sexual objects.
The death cult, in short, that he lived out during his life is the value that those who aspire to impose, yes, impose Sharia in this country.
And you just had a tiny sample of what they're saying they intend to do.
They want to impose these values on us, and they are antithetical to everything we hold dear and cannot coexist.
It's one or the other, because the values that we have, that are enshrined in our Constitution, that were the gift of our God to us, those inalienable rights, are all unacceptable to these jihadis, and they will not tolerate them and they will crush them.
So what is at stake is nothing less than the civilization, as you put it, the Judeo-Christian civilization that we have been part of, that we have prospered from, and that we have defended for the better part of those 250 years.
And it could come to the end right here in Texas, where this process, you know, it's the old analogy of boiling the frog slowly so it doesn't jump out of the pot.
Incrementally, the heat is being turned up in Texas.
And they seek to ensure that by the time they're done with us, we are completely cooked and that those values that they ascribe to will be obliged as practice by everyone.
And I just can't believe that Americans, certainly in the great state of Texas, if they know what is going on here, will want any part of it, they will resist it.
The question is, do they resist it when basically there's no option left but violence?
Or do they resist it right now by voting yes on Proposition 10 on this ballot in the Republican primary starting tomorrow?
And if they make this, as you have, Steve, so commendably, the priority that it deserves to be, this could be the beginning of the end of Sharia in the United States.
One of the things when CPAC started banning people, I think it was in the 2010, 2011 timeframe, one of the top people they banned was Peter Schweitzer.
We started, in fact, the government accountability operation that I co-founded with Peter back then because they were trying to ban Peter.
Why?
Peter at the time was talking about crony capitalism, which the Tea Party absolutely hated.
They hated the concept of it.
Peter was writing books about all the favors that were done in D.C., and they banned him from CPAC.
They said, no, no, no, we can't talk about that.
We don't want you here.
In addition, people talking about Sharia law and talking about the Islamic invasion, the coming Islamic invasion of the United States, and talk about the Red-Green Alliance, people like Trevor Loudoun.
They didn't want Trevor Louden around.
They thought it was too controversial.
But particularly on the issue of the Islamic invasion and Sharia law, Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, and Frank Gaffney.
When I knew those people, this has got to be 15 years.
I said, they are on top of it, man.
They see it.
They talk about it.
It's all facts.
Frank, those three, you were murderers wrote, and we were so proud.
We did it two years in a row.
And finally, the second, first year was huge.
The second year was so big.
We did an all-day conference.
And the CPAC people fired the board and management and brought in new management.
And you guys were invited back.
Also, the situation at Fox, you were banned because Frank Gaffney had the courage to sit there and go, you look at these Midland cities, what's happening with these women, these young girls who are the granddaughters and great-granddaughters of the people that stormed Normandy and fought with the RAF and were over Nazi Germany bombing.
You look at their granddaughters being raped in these great industrial cities.
And Raheem went to Brussels and he went to Amsterdam and he wrote it up, the no-go zone book.
You guys are banned.
Why did both of it happen?
Because he established the same thing here.
People just wanted to go away.
They didn't want to deal with it.
This is what controlled opposition is, and they think they can make some money on the side.
Frank Gaffney, you have been right twice on when you had this concept, civilizational jihad.
And people say, Frank Gaffney, I said, no, Frank Gaffney's dead spot on.
Robert Spencer's dead spot on.
Pamela Geller's dead spot on.
Raheem Kassam is dead spot on.
Trevor Louden.
All you got to do is look at Mamdani.
And Trevor Louden warned you about that for 15 years.
Frank Gaffney, civilizational jihad has come to Texas.
We just played some there.
That's what the stakes are.
This is not a normal election.
You're not voting on some water system or property taxes.
All those are big.
Do not get me wrong.
They're very, very important for the Burkean model that we have, for the little platoons that make this country so great.
But there's something, there's a darker specter here.
There's something quite evil that's coming to Texas, and it needs to be eliminated.
The way you eliminate it on Zone 3, March, it's on the ballot, but that ballot starts tomorrow.
Let me just say, I'd much rather have been wrong about all of this.
I'd much rather see our country spared what we saw coming because we saw it marching inexorably through, well, yes, Europe, but also other parts of the world, Latin America, certainly the Middle East, and here.
And what is now before the people of Texas is a choice.
Our greatest fear is, Steve, they don't even know the choice is there to be made.
As you were talking about with Jenny, it's number 10 of these propositions.
It's on the very bottom of a two-page form that's about, you know, 24 inches long.
And most people might just, you know, click off the couple of guys at the top of the ticket who they know are, you know, in the throes of a major primary thrash.
And it might be only the jihadis who roll into this primary to vote down the ballot measure that simply says Texas should prohibit Sharia law.
And if that happens, we will be a major step closer.
U.S. the stakes, a major step closer to exactly what the guys in that cold open are saying is their mission, which is to remove this constitutional republic and make it over in the image of the perfect man, Muhammad.
The man who married a girl at six, but didn't consummate the marriage until she was nine.
The man who personally beheaded somewhere between 600 and 900 Jews in a city that had welcomed him in, the three tribes of Jews in Medina, he destroyed them one by one.
And he has promoted this idea that raping and pillaging and torturing and violent jihad for the purposes of conquest is the way, the path, as they call it.
In Arabic, that word is Sharia.
And if we don't want Sharia, if we don't want to be on that path, and by the way, anybody who thinks they're going to benefit from being on this path, maybe they'll think if they convert to Islam, all will be well.
I don't think so.
But all I know is everybody else who refuses to abandon, for example, I don't know, Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior will be given three choices if they're tolerated.
One, to convert to jihadism and Sharia and Islam.
Two, to live as an enslaved person in a status known as dimitude.
And three, is just to be killed outright.
And the thing about the dimitude is you can be killed at any point that some Muslim decides, you know, hey, enough of this tolerance.
And Steve, could I just say what is so really chilling is the jihadis, these, I call them Sharia supremacists, are convinced they're winning.
And when that is the case, their book, the Quran, the Hadiths, all of the various sacred texts, most of them about Muhammad, the perfect man, his life, his directions, his sayings, they're told they must make the unbeliever feel subdued.
And what that means is jihad, big time, violent jihad.
So at the moment, there's this sort of thinly veiled mask that They're just going to try to bring this about slowly and through a kind of electoral jihad.
And their numbers are pretty small right now.
But what we have witnessed in Europe and elsewhere is even though the numbers are small, to the extent that they can become kingmakers in electoral processes, they will use that ruthlessly, block voting to consolidate power to advance what the conquest that they're doing.
If they take your warning, the very first thing we played on the on the clip, it wasn't the cold open because we had Jenny on first, but the clip where they were talking about the guy's bragging.
He says, we've done in Vienna what the Ottoman Turks couldn't do when they tried to take it, when the Polish was it hustlers.
For 200 years they, they hammered Vienna and they couldn't take it right.
Finally they surrendered and and left.
But they said, you know, 10% here, 10% here, 10% here and London under Sadiq Khan is almost 20.
The, the English guy we had is one of the one of the well, I think he's the wealthiest man in England.
Now he's moved to Monaco.
But he said, and he's been vilified and eviscerated because he said, hey, the thing's been colonized.
You can't even, you don't have free speech to talk about.
That's the power of.
What we gave down here was a permission structure space.
The NEW YORK Texas Tribune did a great article how this came out of nowhere and became a huge issue.
The NEW YORK Times then followed and did, I thought, a great article about how this came out of nowhere.
Of course they had to say we're conspiracy theorists because there's really nothing going on.
And then I think they quoted one of the imams and said, yeah, we look at Texas as Medina, as like the new Medina go.
The writer clearly didn't.
I thought maybe he did and put it in there.
But when you say that Texas is the new Medina, what does that mean to people that are compliant to Sharia law, sir?
Zorhan Mamdani talked about the model of welcoming the immigrant from Muhammad's life.
When he went, he was the first Muslim immigrant.
He went to Medina because he basically got thrown out of Mecca.
He went there and these three Jewish tribes welcomed him in, and the point of that story is that Medina was ultimately taken by Muhammad and his armies and all of the Jews were killed.
As I said, by some estimates, 600 to 900 of them by him personally in a day, no less.
This is the sharia values.
This is the Islamic choice.
And are there Muslims who don't want to do any of that to us?
Of course there are.
There's a term in authoritative Islam for those people, however.
They're called apostates, and you've been interviewing my friend, Nasser Hussein, of late.
He is an apostate and he can tell you, and has and told your audience, what it's like to be at risk of death at any moment, because that's sharia values.
Killing the apostates is Not only permissible under Sharia, it is obligatory.
And therefore, if you want that choice, ladies and gentlemen, you will find it most unsatisfactory in very short order, and it may be too late to undo it.
So make the right choice now.
And I would encourage people to go to our website, Steve, for much more on all of this.
It's called bansharia.com.
You can not only learn about what Sharia is, what the values, so-called, are, you can also learn about what you can do about it.
Starting tomorrow, if you're in Texas, please go to the polls, take that Republican primary ballot, vote all the way down at the bottom for number 10, Proposition 10.
It will simply tell everybody in Texas that you agree with the proposition.
Texas should prohibit Sharia law, and so should the rest of our nation.
And our prayerful hope, and you've been leading this from day one on this, is that if we do in fact get the kind of decisive victory that should reflect the will of the people of Texas, then it will set the stage for rolling back Sharia as we must everywhere else in this country.
And if we don't, Steve, the choice will be made.
And they, the jihadis, will be imposing their Sharia values on us in the worst imaginable way.
It mustn't come to that.
And we here in Texas have the opportunity to make it different.
And I pray, I pray to God Almighty that the people of Texas will respond to this call and act decisively to reject Sharia and call on their elected representatives from the governor on down in this state who are now saying they feel called to prohibit Sharia.
They need our support and so do their counterparts elsewhere across this country.
I'm going to play this from the debate that we covered live last night.
I'm going to do it tomorrow.
I realize it's the first day of early voting, but we got a couple of weeks of early voting.
I want to play that tomorrow because I want to spend this time with Frank.
Frank, some of the arguments made last night, and this is why Peter McAlvenna, and really kind of the idea hit me full force when McAlvana came over in November.
Now, Peter McAlvenna has been trained by the top and most sophisticated kind of anti-Sharia law individuals in London.
It does tremendous work over there.
And the people that he worked with, some were apostates and very sophisticated people.
He came in November and he contacted me at the time.
In fact, I think I had him on the show and he goes, Steve, I know you worked with Nigel.
You were central to the Breitbar of the time with Raheem at Breitbart London, was central to Brexit.
He said, and I know you had Gaffney and Gaffney was banned and Raheem wrote no go zones and just on and on that Tommy Robinson, you know, gone to prison so many times and Tommy Robinson is one of the heroes.
He goes, he says, I'm going to tell you something.
I had Gert Vilders and Maureen Le Pen come over in 2010 and we went around London and Gert said at the time, he says, hey, unless you get a hold of it now, it's over.
You're as in bad a shape as we are.
And that always stuck with McAlvenna.
And he told me after his trip to Dallas, he says, let me tell you, it's so more advanced and sophisticated in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex in North than it was in London when it first started.
He goes, this is very sophisticated.
Halal food, the whole thing.
They get business.
I think it's $100 million.
He said, they've ingrained into the business community.
They've ingrained into the real estate community.
They've done this.
They've learned a lot from what happened in London.
And you can see they took the Sadiq Khan lessons and applied it to New York with Mamdani.
They're very sophisticated what they've done here.
Senate District 9 was part of that, was the DSA's ground game to do it.
Just what is your warning to people?
Because the hour is late.
This is not like something I think we have a lot of time on.
One of the top experts in the world has come here and said, I don't think you people quite get it.
You are very far down the path already to getting to that magic number of 10%.
And once that happens, and they're much more sophisticated about how they push their weight now, even with smaller numbers.
We've got a couple of minutes here.
I just want you to give a final warning about what the stakes are when people go to the polls tomorrow.
And we know from Jenny, there's going to be crossover voting.
We know that certain elements of that community is going to try to vote in a Republican primary, although they're Democrats that try to defeat this, sir.
Yeah, I don't know whether they're Democrats or in some cases, I think they're just plain old jihadists, but they will be able to vote because of the open primaries in this state.
And they will be able to vote for Sharia by saying no to this Proposition 10.
And to your question, Steve, I think one of Peter's principal takeaways, and I'm extremely proud of our association with Peter Makovan and so appreciative of your having him featured on the war room as you do.
He says, look, you know, you've indulged in this belief that you're, well, maybe 10 years away from what is happening in Europe.
Yeah, it's bad, but it's not going to happen here, at least right away.
What he has been saying, I think, on your era and certainly on mine and privately, wherever he can, is it's not 10 years away.
It's not five years away.
It may be two years, but whatever it is, we're closing fast.
And that is precisely because, as you say, and he does, the jihadis, the stealth jihadis, the civilization jihadis, and that wasn't my term, by the way.
That comes out of a book called The Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal of the Group in North America.
And everybody in this audience ought to read it.
It's short.
It's very, very easily taken aboard.
It was written by Muhammad Akram, a top Muslim Brotherhood operative in 1991.
And what he basically said in as many words was, the mission of the Muslim Brotherhood in North America is a kind of civilization jihad involving the sabotage of their miserable house by their hands, meaning ours, and the hands of the believers.
So that it is Western civilization is destroyed and Allah's religion is made victorious over all other religions.
Now, that document, by the way, which, and there's quite a story behind it, how it was found, it was a truly providential thing arising from a traffic stop on the Chesapeake Bay Bridge.
And that led to a search warrant because the guy driving the car that was going back and forth across it with his wife taking pictures of the structural supports of the bridge was wanted on a material arrest warrant.
That led to their home in Annandale, Virginia, as you know, a sleepy little suburb, being raided.
And down in the basement was found, wait for it, the archives of the Muslim Brotherhood in North America, in which this book was prominently located.
This book turned out, this little pamphlet, turned out to be a prime piece of evidence in the largest terrorism financing trial in U.S. history, right here in Texas, the Holy Land Foundation trial.
And it was used to convict five of the principals in that Holy Land Foundation.
And they've been doing a hard time pretty much ever since.
But here's the kicker, Steve.
The idea was to prosecute them first and then prosecute the 300-some Muslim Brotherhood organizations, some of which were identified in that little book of Muhammad Akram's, in a second phase of the trial.
And if that had happened, Steve, we would not be where we are today.
Texas would not be under the assault it is by these jihadis.
America would not be penetrated by them.
And having, as yes, you say, your businesses, your banks, your Wall Street firms, your government officials compromised by the jihadis.
We're going to have to do this thing up as Donald Trump said he would do.
And the tragedy of it is it didn't happen because Barack Obama was elected president right about the time that that first set of convictions went down.
And that was the end of the prosecution of the Brotherhood.
After that, in fact, they were lifted up and enabled to run their ops in our country, which they do to this day.