Episode 5139: Democrat Judge Demands Illegals Be Sent Back To US; Job Numbers Shock MSM
Judge Jeff Bosberg’s March 2025 ACLU-backed lawsuit forces the U.S. to pay for deported Venezuelans’ return via Zoom, exposing "lawfare" sabotage of Trump’s immigration crackdown—Operation MetroSurge ends after prioritizing criminal aliens, while Biden’s job numbers reveal a 900,000 overcount due to survey flaws. Kevin Pasovic details cartel-linked chaos near Nancy Guthrie’s home in Tucson, where Sheriff Nanos’ opacity mirrors progressive Arizona’s decline. Meanwhile, Ava from New Federal State claims CCP’s 2023 PLA purge signals Xi Jinping’s regime at its weakest, urging Western exploitation of internal fractures—though censorship keeps "Lao Baijing" in the dark. Economic gains for native-born Americans under Trump contrast with Democratic policies favoring foreign workers, while primaries in Arizona and Texas heat up with Biggs, Hobbes, and Chambers in the mix. [Automatically generated summary]
Again, but prioritization doesn't mean forget about everybody else.
That means if you have a criminal alien here and non-criminal here, the criminal always comes first because he's the biggest threat to the communities.
We'll continue to enforce immigration law.
Look, we'll get back to the footprint here, the normal footprint here.
But there will be some security teams staying here, the QRFs, until we're assured that those agitators incidence either stay low or further decline.
I'm not going to remove everybody out of the safety or officers, but like I said, Operation MetroSurge is ending.
And in the next week, we're going to deploy the officers here in detail back to their home stations or other areas of the country that are needed.
But we're going to continue to enforce immigration law.
That's what American people voted for.
But it has to be a priority of criminals.
And look, I hear all the hate about, you know, you should arrest everybody.
Well, we are.
But we're prioritizing those who are the biggest threat to our community.
The rapists, the murderers, the child molesters.
That's the right thing to do.
But I'll say it again.
President Trump made a promise of mass deportation, and that's what this country is going to get.
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry said this in a statement, quote, they thought they could break us, but a love for our neighbors and a resolve to endure can outlast an occupation.
These patriots of Minneapolis are showing that it's not just about resistance.
I think it's probably safe to say the rest of the country will be forever grateful because they showed what it means to stand up for what's right, to stand up for the true principles of this country, to stand with the Constitution and to stand with human decency.
And so I want to note that the announcement today by Mr. Holman, we are cautiously optimistic, as we've said, and that this surge of untrained, aggressive federal agents are going to leave Minnesota.
As the governor noted there, the acts of bravery by the people of Minneapolis, including the tens of thousands of people who went out to protest day after day in bitter cold temperatures, have inspired a nationwide movement.
Obviously, there's progress in that they are leaving right now, but as far as some deal that was struck to get them out, the answer is no.
I think what you saw is you saw a federal government and an administration that thought that they were going to break the people of Minneapolis down.
They thought that we were going to back down and sort of kowtow to whatever it is that they were looking to get done, not just locally in Minneapolis, but nationwide.
They were looking to implement a national agenda based on coercing us to change local policy.
But I'm pleased to be joined today by EPA Administrator Lise Eldon, who you all know, and to announce the single largest deregulatory action in American history.
That's a big statement in American history, and I think we can add the words by far.
Under the process just completed by the EPA, we are officially terminating the so-called endangerment finding, a disastrous Obama-era policy that severely damaged the American auto industry and massively drove up prices for American consumers.
Prices went up incredibly for a worse product.
This action will eliminate over $1.3 trillion of regulatory costs and help bring car prices tumbling down dramatically.
It's absolutely appropriate for people to breathe a sigh of relief, particularly the people in Minneapolis and around the country.
I mean, everybody wants this, wanted that nightmare to end.
And obviously, Trust But Verify will make sure that we'll keep watching to make sure that they actually are doing what they say they're going to do.
I do think that it's all dress rehearsal.
You know, there's been this upward movement from, as we go through this, I recount it every time I feel like I talk about this, but from Los Angeles to Washington to Chicago to Minneapolis, there's just been an increase and importantly, an increase in the number of agents, federal agents on the street, but also importantly, a realization.
You know, you'll remember back in Los Angeles, we were all freaking out about the fact that, and rightly so, that Donald Trump had deployed some Marines to Los Angeles and that was unconstitutional or illegal, violating Pase Comitatus.
I think that one of the things that happened over the course of that time was that Trump realized that the military might be just too professional for him to carry out what he wants to get done in these cities, both in terms of the deportation agenda, but also as a dress rehearsal for what might happen at the polls in November.
And there was a realization as he went through these various trial runs, these dress rehearsals, that ICE was the better agent for him than the U.S. military.
Who knows?
Somebody who actually is a senior ranking person in the military might stand up at some point and say, sorry, we're not going to do this, President Trump, because it violates Pase Comitatas, because it's not in keeping with our mission and with our oath to the Constitution.
No one in ICE is going to say that.
Donald Trump has figured out that ICE is the way to go if you want to exercise these kind of repressive and violent tactics and these kind of intimidating tactics that are all designed to build up people, not in Minneapolis, but around the country, watching what happened in Minneapolis, as much as they admire, millions of us admire what people were doing on the streets and resistance in Minneapolis.
People also are looking at what happened in Minneapolis and saw two execution-style murders on the streets of Minneapolis.
And there are going to be people around the country who are going to be left with a residue of fear because of what they saw on the part of the government in Minneapolis.
And so I think, you know, this just is, to amplify Miles' point, none of these things should be taken in isolation.
We have to be able to look at them as a continuum, as an escalation, and we have to look at what the end game is.
And the end game, I think, is not just an endgame that has to do with the deportation agenda.
I think the end game has to do with the elections in November.
I want to thank Governor Walsh for his messages focusing on peace and his support for the Minnesota state troopers to respond to unlawful situations that put federal officers and the public at risk.
I also want to thank Mayor Fry for taking a public stance against agitators setting up barricades that block streets and endangered public safety and for directing the police to take those roadblocks down.
I do say I want to thank Police Chief O'Hara, Sheriff Witt, and various other local law enforcement for their responsiveness and efforts to maintain law and order in streets.
We've seen a big change here in the last couple weeks.
And it's all good changes.
I'm also pleased to report that we're seeing a notable decrease in unlawful agitator activity here in Minneapolis and overall throughout the state.
This is great news from Minnesota communities that have been adversely impacted by the lawlessness and chaos in the street.
Of course, there, you saw Tom Holman trying to be magnanimous and compliment Mayor Fry and compliment the governor.
Of course, you saw the governor of those guys afterwards.
Oh, we ended occupation.
These guys are terrible guys.
President Trump trying to go out of his way to work out something here.
The Senate voted on the Save America Act.
I think 52, 48, all the Republicans voted for it.
Thun had to shift his, for a technicality, had to shift this so they can bring it back up, but not close to the 60 votes.
Think they're going to vote again about some patch, and then they're going to leave for the Munich Global Security Conference and take next week off.
So got to figure out what's going to happen to ICE, what's going to happen to DHS here.
Other big breaking news, we're going to get to that in a moment.
I'm going to bring Julie Kelly and talk about not able to compromise.
We had a judge, we had a judge that sat there today and said that Pete Hegseth cannot recall Kelly to active duty to have him face a military tribunal and be court-martialed.
And then our favorite Boesberg, Julie Kelly, joins us by phone.
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Well, Steve, you and I have talked about this for almost a year.
I mean, this is a full circle moment from March 15th of 2025.
The first lawsuit lands on Jeff Bosberg's desk, chief judge of the DC District Court.
This is the ACLU filing the first lawsuit to prohibit the president's invocation of the Alien Enemies Act.
And that ordered the immediate deportation of illegal Venezuelans who are tied to Trende Aragua, which has been designated a foreign terrorist organization by the administration.
That night, as planes had already left U.S. airspace, two planes carrying AEA subjects, Jeb Bosberg gives what he called an oral command to return those two planes carrying the illegal Venezuelans, that they had not been offered their due process rights and or habeas petitions.
So, of course, planes were already out of U.S. airspace, as we've discussed.
They were sent to Seacot in El Salvador and then eventually released into Venezuela.
Jeb Bosberg now has spent almost an entire year trying not only to get these illegal Venezuelans back to the United States, but to use that oral order, he calls it, as the basis of contempt findings against the Trump administration.
That because they did not return those planes, they were in contempt of court.
So what does he do today, Steve?
Here we are almost a year later.
He finally issues an order demanding that not just the DOJ return the men who have now also left Venezuela.
They're a third-party country.
That's what he called them.
Arrange for remote habeas hearings for the people who are still in Venezuela, but the men who are flown back to the United States who want to advance their habeas claims, that means get out of detention or continue to oppose their designation as an AEA subject.
Jeb Bosberg ordered the government to pay for these men to be flown back to the United States, meaning, of course, you and me and everyone else pay for their transport back here.
Out of Seacot last year and sent back to their home countries of Venezuela.
So they are not imprisoned anymore.
They are either in Venezuela, where Bosbury has acknowledged that there won't be a way to get them back here because of what's happening between the United States and Venezuela.
But he nonetheless wants to make sure that those people, those men who are in Venezuela, can get some sort of remote hearing and file more paperwork related to their habeas petitions, meaning get out of detention, which they're not in.
I don't know how you can continue a habeas petition when you're not in U.S. custody anymore.
Julie Kelly, I just want to make sure these habeas requests of over, this is what's flooding DOJ right now in Minnesota and other places, habeas corpus requests.
This is another lawfare technique they've got, and the lawyers can't even keep up with it.
So what is Boesberg proposing again?
We're going to have Zoom hearings with these guys in Venezuela, many of whom I don't even think are incarcerated down there.
They were released into Venezuela with that prisoner swap deal as part of that.
So they're in Venezuela.
Some of them, and this was talked about in a hearing on Monday that I covered, some of them apparently have left Venezuela and gone to other countries.
The ACLU, who's defending all these illegals, didn't exactly know where out of these 137 men, these illegals, this pool that Bosberg has been trying to protect and get back to the U.S. for nearly a year, how many of them actually left Venezuela, what third-party country they're at.
What Bossberg is saying, okay, if they left Venezuela, they're a third-party country.
We are going to have taxpayers pay to have those individuals come back to the United States.
They'll be taken into custody, where, of course, then they will file more habeas claims, claiming that they want asylum or they faced persecution, all the other excuses that we see.
Furthermore, they are going to challenge their designation under the Alien Enemies Act, claiming to that they're not members of Trendaragua.
So those are for the individuals who are not in Venezuela.
Those who remained in Venezuela, and again, the ACLU still can't really say who is where.
If they're in Venezuela, Jeb Bosberg wants to hold remote hearings.
Imagine how that's going to work.
You've got, you know, whoever sitting in a hubble somewhere in Venezuela with what?
A Zoom connection.
And he's going to have his lawyer there.
And they're going to have an interpreter because none of these men spoke English.
And then you're going to have the DOJ on the other end.
And of course, there's no sworn statement given.
I mean, he's not in U.S. custody.
He's not in the United States.
So he doesn't care if he lies about the circumstances.
No, I'm not a Trendaragua member.
Okay.
I mean, so, and the DOJ has raised all of this in their responses to Jeb Bossberg, that not only is it's logistically impossible everything that he's asking for, but that they're out of U.S. custody and our laws and due process and constitutional protections aren't conferred to these individuals.
But it's just madness overall, Steve.
You know, we have reports today that illegal immigrants are taking it on their own accord to halt their habeas petitions, to halt their fighting their removal orders.
And they're leaving because they see the writing on the wall, regardless of what these district court judges have done, completely sabotaged the president's immigration agenda for a year.
The higher courts are reversing them systematically.
So they see the writing on the wall.
They're leaving.
Then you have Jeb Bosberg, the chief judge of the district court in the nation's capital, wanting to return suspected gang members who were here illegally from Venezuela, came here during the Biden regime, and he wants them back on U.S. soil.
And I mean, we've talked about this from the get-go.
They should have opened an impeachment inquiry as soon as Bosberg filed that contempt motion that he was going to try to hold Trump officials in contempt of that oral order dating back to March of 2025.
You know, Steve, I posted this today.
Akash Singh, who is, I think, the Associate Attorney General Criminal Division, very sharp guy, very understands what's going on here.
He is asking prosecutors for examples of judicial bias and what they've had to deal with in these courtrooms.
And I posted, this is great.
He's going to, and he will collect those and he will be fierce on that front.
However, you get it to the Republicans in Congress.
They're going to sit on it.
Now, fast forward to January of 2027.
If Hakeem Jeffrey gets the gabble, they will not waste a minute opening impeachment, not just for the president, not just for top Trump officials, for Judge Aileen Cannon, for Judge Amal Bovie.
They are going to go after any judge, any judge who sided with the president over the last few years.
Hopefully get you back on tomorrow, Saturday, because this is breaking news and it just shows you the president trying to work with the Democrats, and all he does is get slapped in the face every time.
Mr. Chairman, can I ask just a process question here?
Are the people in those videos not entitled to Fifth Amendment and 14th Amendment protection of due process?
It seems to me that if we get to a place in time in America where we have a video that is the entirety of what is guilt or not guilt puts us in a very, very nice thing.
Yeah, well, there were two sort of goals the Republicans had.
You had Joni Ertz and Josh Hawley were trying to beat up Ellison on corruption and the Somali crime syndicate.
But then you had guys like Ron Johnson, the former chairman of the committee, and then, as you said, Bernie Marino, who really went toe-to-toe with the chairman of the committee, Rand Paul.
You know, Rand Paul was, you know, put it out that he was trying to seek some kind of middle ground.
I support the president, but obviously we're concerned that people are being shot and killed.
But that clip you just played was, you know, Moreno interrupting Rand Paul and Democrat from Michigan, Gary Peters, who's not seeking re-election.
Basically, Rand Paul and Peters are just going frame by frame showing how Alex Pretty was shot and killed by federal law enforcement.
And so it was exciting.
But I was amazed that Moreno stepped up, as you said.
Yeah, I think Rand Paul was trying to sort of establish that middle lane narrative, but Moreno, he really stepped up and sort of tipped over that apple cart.
And then Ron Johnson, former chairman of the same committee, Ron Johnson also went after the procedures and how ICE is being treated.
And of course, you had Tony Lyons, the acting director of ICE, who made it clear that despite everything the Democrats are saying, there is no cooperation whatsoever with ICE and the retainers.
Look forward to getting you back on here tomorrow.
Okay, Natasha Owens is going to take us out.
We're going to shift focus a little bit.
I'm going to talk about these 2 million jobs that were created, phony jobs, fake jobs, and a psyop.
The Biden regime, having stolen the presidency, they tried to steal the re-election.
We're going to walk you through how they did it.
Also, talking about reality and President Trump's economic turnaround.
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back in a moment steven k van ej and tony joins me uh EJ, I got such a positive feedback from many sources yesterday on your hit because nobody talked about this.
Real quickly, the fake 2.5 million jobs, folks, over really two, two and a half years in the run-up past the midterm in the run-up to the 2024 election by the Biden regime.
Walk me through that, sir, because people are outraged about it.
And I want to figure out what you feel we have to do to get to the bottom of it.
Well, Steve, what essentially kept happening under Biden was the Bureau of Labor Statistics every month would publish these great jobs numbers.
And then over the next two months during the normal revision process, they would quietly revise those numbers down, very consistently end by increasingly large amounts.
So it wasn't as if this was a one-off or that the errors were getting smaller over time.
No, they're actually getting worse.
And then when they would do their once-per-year benchmarking procedure, as it's called, which is where they take very reliable UI data that has to be filed with the labor department per the law, they would take that data, compare it to their previous estimates, and realize, oh, goodness, we were way off.
And again, that happened the last two years in a row.
This final one showed an overcount of 900,000 jobs in just a year.
So again, that is on top of the existing monthly revisions that we already knew about.
So you add all of this up, and over a couple of years, just over a couple of years, you see that the Biden admin overestimated their initial job figures by well over 2 million.
I mean, that's absolutely appalling.
Think of it, Steve.
The Fed has been trying to make interest rate decisions based on faulty labor market data in part.
I mean, the inflation data is, you know, there's problems with that too, trust me.
But just sticking with the labor market data, these numbers have clearly been wrong, and they've been wrong time and time again.
And one of the things, Steve, that we discussed several times on your show was the fact that the jobs numbers kept going up, even though the number of people who said they were employed was basically staying flat and it just didn't make any sense.
And we ultimately had to attribute that to some kind of error in the data because all of the other possible plausible explanations one by one were just slowly went away over time.
Well, guess what?
Now, with these last two years once again being revised down, it has basically closed the gap between those two data sets.
And so now we see that these much reduced jobs numbers are in fact the accurate ones.
In other words, you either had to have the survey of households catch up or the survey of businesses catch down.
And of course, it was the latter exactly as we had predicted on your show.
Well, Steve, they have to bring the Bureau of Labor Statistics into the 21st century.
I mean, we're still trying to do these surveys as if it was 100 years ago.
So much of this data needs to just be simply automated.
And we need to actually have these systems redesigned in such a way that it's not burdensome for employers to actually fill them out.
And you need to do one of the things that Doge did was they got separate computer systems to actually talk with one another.
You need the exact same thing here, where weekly data that is collected in one area of the Department of Labor is actually communicated with the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
If you actually start that kind of integration process, you could bring this data very quickly up to date instead of having to wait well over a year before we get accurate numbers.
I mean, that's just appalling.
That's ridiculous.
It's no way to run the largest economy in the world.
In fact, it's hard to find bad news in the report.
Manufacturing has been on a three-year slide and it finally had an uptick in January.
Now we'll see.
Hopefully that's the start of an upward trend.
But whatever the case, it's welcome news.
The fact that, again, manufacturing, which has been contracting not since April, but since January three years ago, 2023, it's nice to see that slide stop.
And again, hopefully this is the start of an upward trajectory there.
And one of the reasons for hope is because construction was up over 30,000 jobs as all of this investment is pouring in to the United States.
It's increasing construction, particularly of factories, which means more manufacturing employment down the road.
So again, positive sign there.
Very hopeful on that front.
We're also seeing strong wage growth.
And who is actually getting that wage growth?
It's not a bunch of government employees.
No, we're continuing to shed government jobs.
We have the fewest federal bureaucrats right now since 1966.
Think of that, Steve.
You have to go back six decades to find a lower number than we have right now.
Phenomenal news.
And that wage growth, by the way, is outpacing inflation.
So what the average American can actually buy with their weekly paycheck has grown 2% in just Trump's first year.
It fell 4% during Biden's four years.
And lastly, if we look at who is actually getting these jobs, once again, it is not foreign-born workers, right?
Biden basically turned the American labor market into a kind of temp agency for federal bureaucrats and foreigners.
What Trump has done is, again, he has flipped that script.
We are losing federal jobs.
All of the jobs we are adding are in the productive private sector.
And who is getting them?
Native-born Americans.
Foreign-born workers actually lost jobs over the last year.
So all of the net job growth that we saw, again, has gone to native-born Americans.
So it's great when we look at who is getting the jobs, the kind of jobs they're getting, where those jobs are, how much they're getting paid.
Good news on all of those fronts, Steve.
And I guess one last thing that's really important too is the fact that the labor force is growing because labor participation is going up.
People who were previously sitting on their couch at home have re-entered the labor force and are back looking for jobs.
And they're not only looking, they are finding those jobs.
The number of people employed jumped by several hundred thousand.
That's absolutely phenomenal news.
And the U6 unemployment rate, which measures not just people who are looking but can't find a job, but even people who are part-time but can't find a full-time job.
It includes people who aren't even looking anymore.
They're just discouraged and they've given up looking for work, even though they would like to work.
The U6 number also fell by several hundred thousand.
So again, virtually everywhere you look in this report, Steve, it is good news from top to bottom.
Has anybody asked why the because Tucson's a very democratic town, very progressive, because it's got a huge, it has a huge university there, University of Arizona.
Why are we not getting updates from official authorities?
Why are we going to you and CNN's going to Jake Tapper and you're talking to sources?
We're going to have you back on in the morning show tomorrow.
We're going to start in Arizona about Robeson dropping out of this race or at least putting her, I shouldn't say drop out, putting her campaign on hold, which is Tanamont.
I think they're dropping out given how heated it is.
So don't be coming, don't be bringing this Philadelphia smack talk, you know, criticizing Wyatt Earp and saying things about Wyatt Earp and Doc Holiday.
Of course, it's Kevin Pasovic, and we're going to have Kevin back on the show tomorrow.
Also, hopefully, have Andy Biggs.
Andy Biggs running against Karen Taylor Robeson.
She's just announced Blockbuster News.
She's put her race on hold.
I think the Ken Paxton versus Cornyn and Andy Biggs versus Karen Robeson are the two biggest primaries, I think, in the country on the Republican side.
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We're going to talk about the Chinese Communist Party.
Too much focus on Iran, not enough on the existential threat that faces us next in the war room.
Scott Coburn joins me, chief marketing officer, chief marketing officer of Patriot Mobile.
Get to Scott in a moment.
So we've wanted to do a lot on the Chinese Communist Party because they're the existential threat, but we've been taking so much time up on this Iran situation.
I want to go to Ava right now.
We've got Forrest and Ava from New Federal State.
Ava, Jamestown's come out with a report.
I just wanted this whole thing of purges, Xi consolidating power or is about to be overthrown.
It's a question inside the community of not just Lao Bajing, but the analyst.
I think this report is banned on, and I loved it because the events have happened more than two weeks now.
And we're very disappointed, to be frankly.
We didn't see any sharp analysis down by the Western, by the people so-called understanding the CCP.
The reason why this is a historical inflection point.
And never before in the funding of the CCP for almost 100, over 100 years, this is the first time the top-tier PLA professional military commander has been purged.
And this purge has not didn't start at day one.
It started actually 2023.
If you look at the highest commander organ of the PLA, which called CMC Central Military Commission, seven people right now, only five left.
The last two general, General John and General Liu, was the rare generals who had a real combat experience.
So look at two people sitting at the table who left.
One is the chief commander, Xi Jinping.
She was not trained how to fight.
Basically, he's a layman.
And the other general, another person who is remaining on CMC, Zhang Shenming, is also a layman.
Their political work in the PLA.
So right now, it's not only dysfunction, it's really the most fracture, most the weakest point of the PLA ever before.
So we think this is a wind up the window of opportunity for the West to really leverage these opportunities and to basically end the CCP regime.
Because don't Remember that General Zhang Yuxia thought Americans help to end this regime.
It's not about corruption.
It's not about getting more power, but it's about ending the CCP.
So this is very important.
And we're yet to see the Western commentator analyst to speak about this.
So it's ridiculously low in terms of the viewership.
So that's why the Beijing, the people who are living in China, they're looking for an exit.
Given compound, the economic situation and given the elite ink fighting, that's why we think this is a perfect window of opportunity for the Western to strike the CCP.
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