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Friday, 6th, February in the year of our Lord, 2026.
There is a method to my madness this morning on the show because I wanted to talk.
We have all this conversation about civil war and the path to civil war.
We've had the clip from Ben Harnwell's amazing interview with Dr. Betts at King's College, where he's the tenured professor of modern warfare and I think considered one of the leading experts on modern warfare in the broad context of what that means, because modern warfare is not simply kinetic.
It is also unrestricted warfare, as we've taught you over the last five or six years on the show.
We start with, but it's also about institutions.
This is why we start today with James Rosen, the chief Washington correspondent for Newsmax, in the second volume of his magisterial biography of one of the greatest Americans, not simply of modern times, but I think of all time, and that is Associate Justice Scalia.
The second volume is the Supreme Court years.
The first volume is The Rise to Greatness.
It takes all the way through Scalia's life, his confirmation hearing.
The second volume you pick up the first day he joined the Supreme Court and goes all the way through the 2000 election, the contested election there in Bush v. Gore in the decisions of the Supreme Court.
I can't recommend a book more highly.
And also for young people in your life, this is like the Buckley book.
Sam Tannenhaus' book, which we sent to what, I don't know, the second, third, fourth printing.
This audience and the feedback I've gotten is fantastic.
James Rosen is the same type of writer.
These are books that almost read like novels, and you just want to turn the page to do that.
But it was about the institution and how fundamental Associate Justice Scalia was in changing the institution of the Supreme Court, particularly about originalism and about textualism.
And that's why you're going to learn a lot and you'll understand the presence.
I'm very proud that I sat on the five-man selection committee as the only non-lawyer for the selection of Gorsuch to replace Justice Scalia after he passed away.
Of course, you can't replace people like Scalia.
You can't replace people like Associate Justice Thomas, just like he can't replace Charlie Kirk, and he can't replace Andrew Breitbart.
There's some people that come along.
They're just unique and totally unique individuals and can't be replaced.
But you will learn a lot.
Dr. Thayer and Taj Girl are going to return here momentarily.
We're going to talk about the piece in the Federalists today from our own Dr. Bradley Thayer that is quite extraordinary about this potential civil war in the West.
Of course, Dr. Betts at King's College says, not only is it coming, but the election of Nigel Farage as reform.
Remember, what Nigel has done is extraordinary.
He's taken a party basically he created, and now as I think 2x what the Tories are, and the Tories have been around for 250 years, longer maybe, I think than 250 years.
So it's extraordinary.
He says that will only slow it down, but the path in the United Kingdom is set.
When we talk about institutions, one of the ones we talk about so much is global capital, the global capital markets, finance.
You eviscerate the Wall Street, the Lords of Easy Money, and you just say right in the headline, it's a grift and they ought to be treated like grifters.
Well, I should say, actually, it has been a long time in coming, but the Times editor I work with was great and actually really encouraged focusing on this point that, you know, there's so much discussion about bad actors on Wall Street, right?
Like, oh, these looters or, you know, this fraud and so forth.
And I think there's a much broader, more important point, which is that it's not the edge case.
It's not the lawbreaker.
It's the entire exercise.
It is the fundamentals of what we have in private equity, what we have in hedge funds, what we have now in what's called private credit.
It's just all this stuff that has been layered atop the actual legitimate purposes of financial markets that doesn't create any value and yet ends up with tremendous wealth.
And if you're not creating any value and you end up with tremendous wealth, it's safe to assume that means you just took that money from somewhere else.
And I think that is one of the fundamental problems we have in our economy today is one of the best ways to make money where we're sending a lot of our best talent, people who could be starting great businesses, creating good jobs.
Instead, they're going to trade money around in circles.
And somehow we sort of, not only do we tolerate it, and in a lot of cases, we celebrate it and take it seriously as a sign that something useful must be going on.
Look, the reason, one of the principal reasons President Trump won on 8 November of 2016 or early in the morning, he was declared the winner of November 9th is the fuse that was lit off by the financial crash in 2008.
Now, because of the efforts to bail out the system, they consolidated wealth and power.
I mean, Obama, the most progressive president in history, supposedly, had a knee-jerk reaction with Tim Geithner and people around him guiding him because he was basically a constitutional law professor, didn't really understand capital markets, but they came up with policies as has been shown in the great book, Lords of Easy Money, that essentially bailed out the system and bailed out the wealthy with the greatest concentration of wealth in mankind's history.
However, there were supposed to be reforms made.
So are you saying today that we're now in, you know, what, 17, 18 years later, we're in a situation that, because capitalism should be, the fundamental part of capitalism should be free and fair and accessible capital markets.
Are you saying we don't actually have a capitalist system?
This is more corporatist than we even scream about here in War Room?
Or is it, is it at the basis, we do have capitalism with just a lot of grift on top, or is the whole system rotten to its core?
I think it's more that we have capitalism with a lot of grift on top.
You know, one thing I try to emphasize in the piece, and one of the, you know, they find the title that will get the most people to click on it.
The working title was Saving Capitalism from the Capitalists.
Because I think the basic system of capitalism is still a good way, the best way anyone knows to structure an economy.
And for that matter, healthy financial markets are a really important thing.
We need to have markets that allow savers to consolidate their savings and to deploy that capital to productive uses.
The problem is that that's not what financial markets do today.
In fact, even as financial markets, as the financial sector has grown to be an ever larger part of the economy, more of GDP, more of profits, attracting more of the top talent, generating more of the richest people, there has been no correlating increase in investment.
To the contrary, the actual real investment that we get in the economy keeps declining.
And so I think whereas there's been this idea, certainly promoted by the folks on Wall Street, promoted by a lot of the folks you were describing in the Obama world, certainly in the Bush world also, certainly a lot of people in the Trump world, there's this idea that, well, if the financial sector is doing incredibly well, that must somehow mean the economy is doing well, right?
Well, look how high the stock market went up.
That must mean we're doing well.
Those things have just become entirely disconnected.
And so the question is, can we essentially put the financial sector back in its place?
Say we want to have a healthy financial sector, but that's defined by whether you're actually doing your frankly pretty boring job of consolidating capital, deploying capital well, so that the real action is happening in the real economy where it can actually benefit the typical family.
How do we make these, because I argue we have a capitalist system with almost no capitalists because 80 or 90% of the American people really don't have access to it, don't participate in it, and 50% of the country is abject, been here for generations and have no access to this.
Do you think you're slipping into what Lyndon LaRouche used to talk about all the time about productivity and he's got to be focused on manufacturing and you got to get away from this?
I mean, he was mad as a hatter, but some of the things he had to say were quite profound.
Do you think it's those types of reforms that have to take place?
Well, I think it's important to say this is also the stuff that, you know, Adam Smith was talking about and Abraham Lincoln was talking about and that most of our great economists, most of our great political leaders until quite recently all recognized.
For that matter, many of our great popes have recognized this.
It has always been understood that an out-of-control financial sector is a concern, is something that you're going to get if you don't pay attention to it and is going to be a plague on the real useful kind of capitalism.
And so I think one thing we're going to start with.
So I want to make sure we name this as a construct for people.
So we're dancing around, it's the American system.
It's what Hamilton, and I say, along with the Declaration of Independence, something that doesn't get as much play that almost should is Hamilton's report on manufacturers.
And you had, you know, Andrew Jackson was part of that.
Lincoln, as a Whig, this whole party stood for this.
The American system.
And I kind of say this is what Lyndon LaRoche's people also talk about.
Talk to me about the American system.
Why is the alternative quite different than late stage finance capitalism that we find ourselves in this kind of cul-de-sac?
Yeah, the American system, as you just said exactly right, is what built America into the greatest country and economy in the world that led to the unbelievable prosperity of the middle class.
It was obviously a capitalist system.
It was a free market system, but it was one that recognized that not anything you do that generates a profit is equally valuable.
And also that you really do actually need a role for government, that you need to make sure that domestic industry is strong in competition against other countries.
You need to certainly invest a lot in things like infrastructure.
I mean, whether it was railroads and canals back in the day or electrification, all of these things were massive public projects.
And you need a financial system that is specifically structured and regulated in the public interest to make sure that what is happening in financial markets doesn't become an end unto itself, right?
You're not trading for the sake of trading, but that it is actually fulfilling its function of helping things to happen in the real world.
And that is the tradition that the U.S. followed all the way through the middle of the 20th century.
It's only in the last few decades that we gave into this idea that no, no, no, markets, in and of themselves, whatever they do is always going to be the most efficient and productive thing.
And if we just get out of the way and let the people on Wall Street cook, as the kids would say, that will generate the most prosperity for everybody.
And it's just not true.
There's nothing in economic theory that would say it's true.
There's nothing in human history that would say it's true.
And I think we've really paid the price for going along with that instead of being willing to say, you know, as I say in the piece, the people on Wall Street have no clothes.
They're parading around naked.
A lot of what they do is ridiculous.
It's clearly not valuable.
And, you know, we need the right regulation, but we also need a culture that's willing to say that and that we deserve better.
How do you, if you got a meeting, and we had you over for a cup of coffee with Scott Besant, Secretary of Treasury, before you guys went to the White House, we got a minute here on this side.
And I tell you what, Hang, I want you to just hang on for a second because I want to get to the recommendations here.
Because when you talk about Civil War, in the Civil War in the middle of the 19th century, these were some of the issues that were underlying, because remember the plantation aristocracy called the Tidewater plantation aristocracy, particularly around places like Charleston.
Remember at the time when the Civil War started, I think there were more what would be associated today as billionaires per capita in Charleston than any place on earth.
They believed that the investment was in human capital.
That was what slavery was about.
They thought humans owning humans was a capital asset.
And one of the big differences in Abraham Lincoln and what they, their idea was that you had to build canals and railroads and you needed some sort of either government regulation to do that or maybe even potential financing or helping with financing.
And that was one of the big riffs of the, they were high tariffs in the north and of course no tariffs, some sort of partnership with the British in the South, what became the Confederacy.
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Oren Cass, I think best, normally we put people in the Oval Office.
I think this one, you go to Treasury and you talk to Besson.
Besson comes out.
He's a hedge fund guy.
He'd been a very safe pair of hands.
At one time, they were talking about he was going to wear two hats, maybe Federal Reserve Chair and Treasury if they could work it out.
Looks like they couldn't.
So Kevin Warsh is going to take that spot.
A big fan of Kevin's known him a long time.
Talk to me.
The two or three things you and Scott Besson are going to talk about when you're there to make sure that we get this to be a truly capitalist system with every American a capitalist.
Uh, we need to get the people out that hate America, and they're, they're being funded by guys like George Soros, Alex Soros.
Uh, like I read Bradley Thayer's article, a lot of this stuff comes out of England, the European Union, but let's not forget the radical Islam in the Middle East.
And then we got China pushing it from their side.
So you know, we have the communists, we got the Muslims, and then we have these left-wing radicals in the European Union pushing their ideology on America and this um, you know, 20 million illegal immigrants.
That's disputable, 10 to 20 million somewhere in there.
And these people they do not assimilate in America.
They have, they start up their own cultures, they start up no-go zones.
They don't like Americans, they don't like America.
I'd like the Re-immigration Office and then we turn up the volume on the deportion and the deporting these people.
It's slowed down.
It started out with a bang last year but the deportations have actually slowed down.
We need to turn up the volume on the deportation, start the Re-immigration Office and get these people out of our country.
You know when, when immigrants used to come here to America, they used to go to a two-year, three-year program and they actually would assimilate.
They'd learn all about our culture, they'd learn about the history of America and they, a lot of these people, most of these people, actually loved America and they, they were proud Americans, the immigrants, and they don't do that anymore.
Tell me again, remind me how many tours in defense of your country did you spend over in Islamic Nation sir, 16 times in Iraq and Afghanistan from 2001 to 2000.
Did you see anything?
Did you see anything in those cultures and societies you thought would be uh, would be appropriate for like say, a culture like the Great State Of Texas, sir?
No Steve no, if if you spend time in um, you know you go places like Iraq it's.
You have the Sunnis, the Shias, Shiites and the Kurds, and there's a civil war there and you know that it's everybody's against everybody there, everybody's killing each other.
Saddam Hussein ruled that place with an iron fist and as soon as he's gone, it was complete chaos.
And then Afghanistan, like i've told you before they're we used to call them stone stackers with machine guns they're.
They're a primitive culture they, they live out in the middle of nowhere, most of these places.
And then in the city, in Kabul, the capital, there's car bombs daily, there's people being killed.
And now that the Talibans back in power.
So we spent 20 years in Afghanistan to push the Taliban and Al-Qaeda out.
And guess what?
The Taliban and Al-Qaeda are back in power after 20 years.
So, but through failed leadership of Barack Obama and Joe Biden In it's, nothing changed there.
They're actually more powerful now.
We left 85 billion dollars in America hardware in Afghanistan and pulled out like a disgrace to our country.
It's a Bolshevik ideology in a neo-Bolshevik form, which is the ideology of the European elite in Kent, the Canadian elite and in Australia, as well as among the Democrats in the U.S.
The Trump administration has warned the EU.
The Warsaw speech in July of 2017, the National Security Strategy, which came out in December of this year, excuse me, of 2025, and then the Davos speech that President Trump gave in January all warned the European Union that they don't get to destroy Western civilization, right?
That Western civilization also belongs to the United States.
It belongs to Americans, and we get a veto.
What did the EU do?
They gave President Trump the middle finger on Tuesday, July, January 27th, 2026, right?
In Spain, they granted over 500,000 residency permits.
And in India, Ursula von der Leyen opened up the migration agreement, which is going to allow tens of millions of Indians to enter the European Union.
The EU has been warned.
So now President Trump has got to solve this problem to save Western civilization.
First, increase the costs to the European Union.
Peter Navarro's, a magician, he's got his bag of tariffs.
Let's start employing them against the European Union.
Secondly, because they'll probably absorb the costs of the tariff, right?
Their ideology and their determination to destroy the West is very strong.
Britain is part of the five eyes, intelligence cooperation.
We can restrict intelligence cooperation.
It's not done lightly, but they've really got to feel the pain because these agreements are coming into effect now.
The EU agreement will come in in 2027.
So by the time President Trump leaves office, you could have many more tens of millions of Indians living in the European Union.
And of course, Spain 500,000 is taking place almost immediately.
And there's always essentially family unification.
So 500,000 really means 4 million plus when we're talking about that.
So restrict intelligence for the UK.
Thirdly, military cooperation.
Again, not done lightly.
European have, we fought wars together.
We have a long history together, but that's really going to get their attention, which is what we need to do.
This cannot go on.
Western civilization is in the balance.
Fourth, Brexit, right?
Let's have multiple Brexits, right?
Ireland perhaps should think about exiting the European Union.
And there may be elements or points where the U.S. could assist in that regard, as well as developing new trade zones, right?
So that the Irish population doesn't incur a cost, economic cost from that.
Yeah, actually, I found one from 14 years ago, actually, as well, where he said, I never knew singing could be this bad.
Hashtag halftime, hashtag Madonna is a joke.
And that's from February 5, 2012.
And I don't have how many likes on that because our team cut it off for our graphics.
But the 2014 one like clothing optional halftime performance question mark in February 2nd, 2014.
And, you know, Charlie sent us, you know, sent the team images in our group chats.
And one day he sent a stadium, a picture of a stadium and said, this is my vision.
Years and years ago.
And that's what he wanted for our big conventions, our big conferences.
And it's because he believed that he was a missionary to culture.
He went into the parts of culture that didn't want him, but that needed him the most, Steve.
And that's why he was in college campuses.
That's why Turning Point is on college campuses.
That's why we're on high school campuses because that's where they need us.
And, you know, when it became really apparent to us that the professional sports league, we'll just leave it vague, didn't want to honor the forgotten men and women, the people that built this country with the halftime performance.
We knew that there was a need in the marketplace.
We needed to meet it.
We needed to step into it.
And we knew that that's exactly what Charlie wanted for Turning Point to be and to be this juggernaut that could do this sort of thing.
Yeah, it's still a David and Goliath story.
I mean, we're going up against the biggest thing there is, but we have a lot of momentum behind us and a lot of people rallying behind the cause.
And so here's my message to you and to your audience: just flip the channel.
Flip the channel.
When the action's done, just flip the channel and check out the All-American Halftime show.
Because, Steve, we win this in two ways.
We put on a great show that people enjoy, that's high production value, that's excellent, which it is.
I've seen the rehearsal video from this.
It is phenomenal, Steve.
In your face, you're in the action.
High octane, songs you know, songs you can sing along with, and they're paying tribute to this country, to their faith, to just great all-American music.
And we win it that way.
We also win it if people switch the channel for the other guy, for the guy that sings in Spanish.
And you come over and you sing along with us in English because, listen, that's the language we speak in this country.
So it's an exciting, it's an exciting moment, but help us and help your family.
Yeah, to your point, Rob and Parker Sig were behind us from the jump.
They wanted to know how they could help.
So Real America's Voice.
If you are watching this show right now, you know how to find Steve.
If you know how to find Steve, you know how to find the Charlie Kirk show.
You know how to find the All-American halftime show.
So that's the first thing.
Secondly, it's going to be all over social media.
Just go on X, go on YouTube, go on Rumble.
It will be there.
It will be promoted.
It'll be up at the top.
All right.
So TPOSA YouTube, TPUSA X, TPOSA Rumble.
Now, for those that are technologically challenged, get somebody at your watch party that's younger than you, throw it up on the screen.
Most TVs have like a YouTube app, you can have a Rumble app, and you can just flip it over, make a plan, make sure you know how to get straight over to it.
Because as soon as the action stops on the field, you're going to want to be tuning over for us or watch Real America's Voice pre-show as well.
So in addition to that, you're going to have Sinclair Broadcasting is going to be syndicated out on their Charge channel, Samsung Plus, YouTube TV, Hulu Sling, all those things, just like Real America's Voice is.
Daily Wire Plus, TBN.
TBN, if you is on, I think like 70 million homes.
So you can switch over on the channel to traditional cable if you want to watch it on TBN.
So Rav is going to be, Rav is going to come up at 7 p.m. Eastern Standard Time with kind of a pregame to the halftime show.
So if you want to, if you get bored with the game, if you're a Patriots fan and they're not doing well, if you're a Seahawks fan, they're not doing well, you're just bored with us.
Some of these Super Bowls are quite boring.
I'm not a Super Bowl fan, a football fan, but not a Super Bowl fan, never have been.
Turn over early to Real America's Voice right here.
I want to go to Taj Gil.
Taj, you have a very strong message for the American people that Sharia law is not compatible.
You've spent the better part of your formative years fighting for your country over there, right?
Because you knew your country needed to be defended.
And all the policy mistakes and all the policy debacles that put your generation at risk is got to be set aside when you look at the valor and courage.
But you decided in that time coming back, I just don't want to be in the security business.
I'm a man of peace.
And what I want to do is start a great coffee company you have.
Where do people go to get the coffee that you and I agree is a lot better than the Navy brew that you get on a midwatch?
Dr. Thayer, the Office of Remigration, give me 60 seconds on that.
And then where can I go get all your writings?
You're working on a magnum opus on a 100-year war against communism that we're going to come out with by Hooker Crook sometime this spring or early summer.
Where do people go to get all your writings after you tell me about your new position as the Office of Remigration?
Americans were tragically killed and lost their lives this week, yet again, from an illegal alien, an individual who was paroled into the country by the Biden administration using the CBP1 app, which they created like it was a magic pass for Disneyland.
That's not how immigration in this country should work.
And this illegal alien from Kyrgyzstan was traveling on an Indiana highway and he failed to break for a slowed semi-truck in front of him.
He swerved into the lane and he crashed into a van carrying 15 passengers and four people were killed in that crash.
This is another tragedy that could have been prevented if not for the wide open borders from the previous administration.
That's why we now have a secure border.
That's why this administration will continue to deport illegal aliens from our country.
You know, I owe a huge debt of gratitude to the War Room polsey and to you, Steve Bannon, because we did accomplish the mission of elevating this message and bringing the message to the attention of the national media and the American people.
Because, you know, prior to coming on your show almost a year ago, the American people did not know that they were driving up and down the highways with a bunch of illegal alien truck drivers who weren't properly qualified, weren't properly trained, and hadn't been vetted.
You know, we don't even know who these drivers are.
And that's because, like in the case of the recent crash that we had just here in Indiana, these guys have snuck across the border, either using the app or some other means of getting into the country.
They come into these sanctuary cities, they apply for asylum, and the loophole that has existed has been these asylum requests and these EAD cards.
So historically, the industry did not issue CDLs to illegal aliens who did not have lawful status in the United States.
And there was guidance issued in 2019.
And so even though we have awareness now to what the problem is, we do not have action on the problem.
President Trump issued an executive order that called for the investigation of the non-domicile CDL as soon as he heard that there might be a problem.
Our Secretary Duffy, who's been doing a great job of bringing awareness and jumping on this issue, conducted that investigation and found that it was absolutely true that the system's broken and that too many of these licenses have been issued and that they've been issued illegally.
And he did, the USDOT did issue an interim final ruling that stopped the further issuance of the non-domiciled CDLs, but it did not revoke the hundreds of thousands of non-domiciled CDLs that have been issued improperly, illegally, and illicitly.
I take it, just take it that there are trucking companies that people know that think are all American actors that are some of these trucking companies are pushing this so they can have cheaper labor as drivers.
It's a battle between Wall Street and Main Street.
Your Main Street American companies hire American truck drivers.
Huge Wall Street corporations are brokering freight to illegal aliens.
They're contracting it out.
They're operating behind willful blindness, pretending that they don't know, even though this is all over national media.
Everybody knows who's involved.
Everybody knows who they're giving freight to, but they're not willing to put it down because they're profiting.
So we need to discuss who the profiteers are, and we need to talk about this Supreme Court case where they plan to give the people who are profiting off all this immunity from these crashes.