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| So Donald Trump apparently has some regrets about the National Guard. | ||
| Not their politically targeted deployment to cities like Los Angeles, Chicago, and Memphis, but regrets about not ordering them to seize voting machines after the 2020 presidential election, which Donald Trump decisively lost to Joe Biden by more than 7 million votes. | ||
| In a new interview, the New York Times asked Trump why he did not follow through with the threat. | ||
| His response, well, I should have. | ||
| Adding, they're good warriors. | ||
| I'm not sure that they're sophisticated enough in the ways of crooked Democrats and the way they cheat to figure that out. | ||
| I've read both the Minnesota and Illinois lawsuits. | ||
| They're really political diatribes masquerading as lawsuits. | ||
| If you look at what both states are asking the courts to do, it's to kick ICE out of those states and cities and to bar ICE from carrying on federal law enforcement in Illinois and Minnesota. | ||
| That's the top thing both states asked to do, and they cite zero precedent for that. | ||
| There is zero precedent for that. | ||
| There is no way a judge can say, you federal law enforcement agency, you are not allowed to execute federal law in a certain state or city. | ||
| I think the most that the states could get out of this if they get sympathetic judges is a judge who's going to ask questions of ICE, who's going to hold hearings, who's going to demand questions about how they're training, how they're carrying out their policy. | ||
| You also could have judges that issue sort of symbolic orders along the lines of ICE, you are not to violate the law. | ||
| But that's already the case. | ||
| It's already not allowed for ICE to violate the law. | ||
| So these lawsuits, which appear to be coordinated, they're potentially powerful political statements, but I don't give them much of a chance of achieving the legal thing that they're asking for in the courts. | ||
| Even today, an hour outside Minneapolis in St. Cloud, Trump's agents, dozens of them, tried to muster some kind of military-style show of force at a mini-mall parking lot in St. Cloud, Minnesota. | ||
| They were soon surrounded by hundreds of local residents telling them to get out. | ||
| They were so overwhelmed with the way the neighborhood responded, Trump's agents got stuck there in the mini mall parking lot. | ||
| A Democratic state senator had to intervene to ask the crowd to please let the federal agents leave because they otherwise couldn't. | ||
| Finally, after about an hour, people allowed these tough guy masked agents to turntail and leave with their tails between their legs. | ||
| Our top story this hour, of course, the state of Minnesota and the twin cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul are suing the Trump administration over a surge of federal forces there. | ||
| The lawsuit argues that federal agencies, including the Department of Homeland Security, have acted unconstitutionally and unlawfully by violating the state's sovereignty and civil rights laws. | ||
| The American people are the most generous people in the world. | ||
| You just can't take advantage of us. | ||
| When immigrants come here, you've got to learn which side of the road to drive on, customs and laws to follow, and that you cannot steal from the U.S. government the way you did from your government. | ||
| What I hear is that he believes the mistake in 2020 wasn't the big lie. | ||
| It was actually the restraint. | ||
| The mistake wasn't the lack of evidence, but the lack of force. | ||
| The mistake was that he didn't bend the system far enough. | ||
| I think he is telling us, broadcasting very loudly what his strategy is for the next election. | ||
| I'm not talking about 2028. | ||
| I'm talking about 2026 and what he would like to do or what he plans to do there if things don't go his way. | ||
| Yeah, I think we should be honest about it. | ||
| And I don't think that it's just a fantasy that's happening in his brain. | ||
| He tried in 2020. | ||
| He directed Ruli Giuliani to go to the DOJ and DHS and to seize the voting machines. | ||
| Bill Barr said no. | ||
| Ken Cuccinelli said no. | ||
| They made it public. | ||
| It was enough guardrails around him at the time that said you can't do these things. | ||
| But right now, the person in charge of elections at the Department of Homeland Security is Heather Honey. | ||
| She was a 2020 election conspiracy theorist. | ||
| She just recently said that you can take extraordinary actions, including like seizing voting machines based on either things that they find from 2020 or things that they haven't yet determined but will materialize. | ||
| So, I mean, it's not just Trump's mind here. | ||
| The pieces around him to facilitate these fantasies into reality are there as well. | ||
| That's what the last year has demonstrated to us, and we should all just be aware of it and acknowledge it and then actually start to think about solutions. | ||
| Tell us what you think right now, tonight, the situation on the streets of Iran is and how a free Iran will make a safer United States. | ||
| Well, thanks for having me, Laura. | ||
| To your first question, I think in the 47-year failed history of the Islamic Republic, I think the people of Iran have never been closer to obtaining the liberty they enjoyed before 1979. | ||
| Second, in terms of what may or may not need to be done about it, I think your points about the concern about how the United States has proceeded with regime change are completely valid. | ||
| But I don't think there's any circumstance in which President Trump is going to insert the United States into the equation. | ||
| I think rather what he will do and has done is to set conditions so that the people of Iran could establish and reestablish control for themselves and take control of their own future and destiny. | ||
| And I think he's done three critical things to do it. | ||
| He's applied economic pressure to restore it and to exacerbate the stress. | ||
| He's demonstrated they can't provide security and stability working with Israel and the Operation Midnight Hammer. | ||
| And lastly, he's been the first president to offer rhetorical support for the people of Iran. | ||
| And I think we're seeing the results of that. | ||
| This idea of Trump meddling in the 2026 election was laid out for me today in the Washington Post, and they did a great job of noting a couple of things. | ||
| He's trying to change how these midterms are going to play. | ||
| I say he's already started to do that because he's already meddled in a number of states. | ||
| But some of the things, pushing states to redraw house districts, demanding to end mail voting, attacking voting machines, seeking millions of voters private information, staffing the administration with election skeptics, as you've just noted, and deniers, calling out the troops who are right now on a lot of streets across the cities across the country. | ||
| But where are those cities? | ||
| They're in blue states, right? | ||
| Where the voting population is likely larger and going to turn out. | ||
| So if you can cut that short on the front end, you have to worry less about it on election day on the back end. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Am I missing something here, or is this part of the authoritarian playbook? | ||
| Simone likes to give us the history of how they play the game, but the reality, folks, is being played out right in front of you right now. | ||
| That's as well, right? | ||
| And we see this in international law, in the actual arena. | ||
| Mike Nick's right, power and the exercise of power to implement your ideas. | ||
| Why does that somehow not apply domestically? | ||
| Everything so far has demonstrated that he's willing to do it. | ||
| The one thing that I would add to that list is that the misinformation engine of Fox News in 2020 is quaint compared to the environment that we're in now. | ||
| By the time we move into the midterms, Larry Ellison will have control of TikTok. | ||
| CBS News is no longer a fixture. | ||
| A whole bunch of Trump entities have been buying up local media properties and aligning it. | ||
| I mean, the landscape to backfill the narrative that Trump puts out there is way more potent than we saw in 2020. | ||
| That doesn't mean we're impotent and we don't have any ability to respond. | ||
| There are just increasingly few levers. | ||
| And so I think now there's the so what comes in, and that is, you know, there are a few senators that always express concern of Republicans. | ||
| They should be on the record now that they're not going to tolerate this stuff. | ||
| They're not going to put out statements. | ||
| They're going to change their party and caucus with Democrats if they start to see this kind of nonsense. | ||
| They need to start drawing red lines. | ||
| There needs some political pressure for them to do it. | ||
| That's one lever of power. | ||
| It's not the be-on-end all, but we're going to need to start putting antibodies into the system because this is the reality that we are living in. | ||
| It's happening. | ||
| That's part of following the money. | ||
| There are evidently some disturbing tapes of A.G. Ellison in meetings with people who donated to him, them calling for political favors to stop the investigations. | ||
| So we'll see. | ||
| But again, I don't want to get out ahead of the investigations. | ||
| This is going to be very methodical. | ||
| And Chris, I can guarantee you when the bear trap snaps, we're going to get these folks. | ||
| And again, we're going to follow the money, whether it's over the two counties here, in Minneapolis, St. Paul's, or whether it's to East Africa. | ||
| And there's tons of luxury properties, cars that have been bought over there. | ||
| And how the hell did this happen? | ||
| How did it happen? | ||
| President Trump is outraged. | ||
| I'm outraged. | ||
| The American people should be outraged. | ||
| December Reed on Consumer Price Index. | ||
| We're expecting a headline number up three-tenths of a percent and it delivered. | ||
| That's exactly what we received, up three-tenths of a percent. | ||
| Now, if you look at the previous month in August, it was up four-tenths. | ||
| September, it was up three-tenths. | ||
| So this fits right in. | ||
| If you look at X food and energy, known as CORE on a month over month, it's a tenth cooler than expected. | ||
| It's up two tenths. | ||
| Now, if you look at year over year, up 2.7 expected, 2.7 arrives. | ||
| The one glimmer here on the year over year is the core comes in a tenth light to expectations, but the 2.6 level is where we've been. | ||
| And my favorite numbers, and they really are my favorite numbers, Joe. | ||
| If we look at the index, the index on the non-seasonally adjusted index, this started in 1913. | ||
| The index number, 324. | ||
| And why is that important? | ||
| Because once again, it's a new all-time high. | ||
| Pretty much, not all the time, but pretty much every month, we get a new all-time high. | ||
| 1913. | ||
| And if you look at the 1957 rendition, which is the core CPI, it comes in at 331 and change. | ||
| And of course, that's also an all-time, all-time high. | ||
| 2028 is on the chopping blocks as well. | ||
| I think the end game is to, if we can cancel it, I can stay in office. | ||
| And that's with Venezuela and Greenland and a whole lot of other stuff that's going on outside your windows right now, folks. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| It's Tuesday, 13 January, Year of Our Lord, 2026. | ||
| As we've laid out here on the war room over the last couple of months, as President Trump and Secretary Besson's economic plan starts to kick in, and you can see that it's getting traction and building up. | ||
| The radical Democrats, the Marxist jihadists that hate this country and have tried to bring in or did bring in 20 to 30 million illegal alien invaders will get crazier and crazier. | ||
| There you see it all night long. | ||
| It's President Trump setting the conditions to steal the 2026 election in the midterms because now they ain't feeling so good. | ||
| They're not feeling so good. | ||
| I told you and told you and told you as the economy starts to kick in and we get affordability and all that crap off the table, right? | ||
| And you got growth, you have GDP growth, GDP per capita growth, you've got job growth, you've got real wages growth. | ||
| They're going to get crazy. | ||
| They're going to get crazy and crazier and more dangerous. | ||
| And you're seeing it every day. | ||
| Let's get down to the bay. | ||
| By the way, president is en route. | ||
| He'll leave here. | ||
| I think shortly or might have just left to go to Detroit. | ||
| He's going to visit some factories and some plants, talk to some Ford motor execs, I think others, about manufacturing. | ||
| He's going to give a major address at about 2 o'clock Eastern Standard Time, I believe, to the Detroit Economic Club. | ||
| That'll be a major economic address. | ||
| And yes, the Secretary of Treasury is with him, Scott Besson. | ||
| I want to go now to Treasury to Joe Lavony. | ||
| Joe, I got a couple of minutes on this side. | ||
| Just tee me up and I'll hold you through the break. | ||
| The numbers this morning, I liked them. | ||
| I thought they're pretty good. | ||
| But it fits into the narrative that you and the secretary have been talking about about a disinflationary, disinflationary boom, sir. | ||
| What do you got? | ||
| Disinflationary boom. | ||
| Steve, last month when the data came out to the markets, investors were surprised that the numbers were softer than expected. | ||
| And the argument was that it was temporary, that you'd see an acceleration or a payback, if you will, in December. | ||
| That did not happen. | ||
| The core CPI, which strips out food and energy, for example, the three-month rate of change remained at 1.6. | ||
| There are a lot of positives in the report. | ||
| We're going to make significant further progress, which is going to take a little bit of time. | ||
| So we counsel patients because we had a mess that we inherited. | ||
| But the point is the numbers on the inflation side are trending powerfully in the right direction. | ||
| And of course, the boom aspect you see in the GDP numbers, near 5% private sector GDP, the last two officially reported quarters. | ||
| The Wiley Fodder Atlanta Fed has growth over 5% for the fourth quarter. | ||
| That would take growth for the year, despite the weak Q1 when Biden was in office of over 3%. | ||
| So when we talk about a disinflationary boom, we're talking about surging GDP, rising incomes, and an inflation rate that starts to fall and doesn't preoccupy people's concerns. | ||
| Joe, hang on for one second. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
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| Most importantly, talk to Birch Gold, Philip Patrick and the team. | ||
| Trying to get Philip on this afternoon. | ||
| We're going to have E.J. Antony is going to join us this afternoon to break down more economic numbers in the president's major economic address to the Economic Club of Detroit. | ||
| Well, he will be this afternoon with Secretary of Treasury Scott Besson. | ||
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News. | |
| Of course, he waited till just before the show started, but he's not with us right anymore. | ||
| I'm going to try to get through this. | ||
| He has a final message that he wanted to say. | ||
| So I'm going to try to read it. | ||
| Trying to be strong. | ||
| If you are reading this, things did not go well for me. | ||
| I have a few things to say before I go. | ||
| My body fell before my brain. | ||
| I am of sound mind as I write this January 1st, 2026. | ||
| If you wonder about any of my choices for my estate or anything else, please know I'm free of or inappropriate influence of any sort, I promise. | ||
| Next, many of my Christian friends have asked me to find Jesus before I go. | ||
| I'm not a believer, but I have to admit the risk-reward calculation for doing so looks so attractive to me. | ||
| So here I go. | ||
| I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and look forward to spending an eternity with him. | ||
| The part about me not being a believer should be quickly resolved if I wake up in heaven. | ||
| I won't need any more convincing than that. | ||
| I hope I'm still qualified for entry. | ||
| With your permission, I'd like to explain my life. | ||
| For the first part of my life, I was focused on making myself a worthy husband and parent as a way to find meaning. | ||
| That worked, but marriages don't always last forever. | ||
| And mine eventually ended in a highly amicable way. | ||
| I'm grateful for those years and for the people I came to call my family. | ||
| Once the marriage unwound, I needed a new focus, a new meaning. | ||
| And so I donated myself to the world, literally speaking the words out loud in my otherwise silent home. | ||
| From that point on, I looked for ways I could add the most to people's life, one way or another. | ||
| That marked the start of my evolution from Dilbert cartoonist to an author of what I hoped would be useful books. | ||
| By then, I believe I had enough life lessons. | ||
| Scott Adams, a real giant, died this morning, accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. | ||
| At the end, somebody in the engine room has told me it's like the thief on the cross, right? | ||
| Very powerful. | ||
| Scott Adams. | ||
| Just a great guy, MAGA, and really had the, really had a lot to say about this movement and the president of the United States and his suffering there at the end. | ||
| Pretty intense. | ||
| But like he said in that last statement, kept his brain. | ||
| Scott Adams died this morning. | ||
| And we'll play that the entire, he's got a show going on. | ||
| They're playing his show. | ||
| And so we'll cut into that a little bit later. | ||
| Joe Lavarnier, you've talked about this strategy for growth. | ||
| I kept telling everybody, don't lose it. | ||
| And people came out back in those elections in November, said everything in 2016 is going to be about affordability. | ||
| I said, no, it is not. | ||
| Just take a deep breath. | ||
| You know, don't get sucked into the Democrats' narrative. | ||
| There is a plan here. | ||
| It is a sophisticated plan. | ||
| And the plan has scale. | ||
| In fact, we're sitting here on tenter hooks right now, waiting for the Supreme Court to talk about President Trump changing all the commercial relationships throughout the world and what we call trade and through tariffs. | ||
| Okay, but the tariff aspect, the commercial aspect, the trade aspect is one big piece coupled with the supply-side tax cut to incentivize capital to pour back into this country into high-value-added manufacturing jobs. | ||
| Hence, why the President of the United States is on a plane this morning, going to go to Detroit, going to look at some factories and look at the, you know, because one of the gauges here is how many F-150s one can sell, right? | ||
| President Trump's going to see all that and then give a major address. | ||
| A disinflationary boom is not just jargon, it is the concept here. | ||
| I want to go back and make sure, because I got Rob Bluey on next from the Daily Signal. | ||
| They've written a brilliant piece about how we get to a balanced budget because part of the problem we have here is still too much federal spending. | ||
| One of the ways you get there is wait for it, folks. | ||
| GDP growth, economic growth. | ||
| This is a growth strategy. | ||
| Scott Besson, as a contributor here on the show for years, sat as a contributor and said, we have one last shot to have a supply-side tax cut, which is driven on production and bringing manufacturing back. | ||
| A part of that, the key to that, is growth, is GDP growth, wage growth, job growth. | ||
| What you're seeing now, and I want you to explain to the audience, because this is not a concept you heard during the Biden years, because everything was about this massive federal spending that got us into this hole, the whole of inflation, the whole of this huge debt, the interest payments we have to make on the debt was all Biden because the radical Democrats just believe in government. | ||
| They don't believe in private industry. | ||
| So tell us the difference. | ||
| The Atlanta Fed are putting up numbers that are shocking how good they are about private company or private market GDP growth. | ||
| I just want to make sure the audience understands the difference because this will tee up brother Rob Bluey and his strategy to balance the budget, sir. | ||
| If you take GDP, gross domestic product, and you strip out federal side, which to your point was booming on an unsustainable track over the previous four years, GDP in Q2 and Q3, President Trump's first two full quarters in office, the economy grew almost 5%. | ||
| GDP, excluding the government sector, grew actually 4.8% annualized over those two quarters. | ||
| Fast forward to the fourth quarter, which there was a government shutdown and people worried the economy would be depressed. | ||
| The Atlanta Fed has GDP growth predicted at 5.1%. | ||
| But related to the president's reindustrialization, manufacturing policy and tariffs, the trade deficit shrunk to its lowest level in the last month's reading since 2009, 2009, as imports plunged and exports went up. | ||
| So you've got the private sector. | ||
| That means business investment, household consumer spending, in addition to exports and a rejuvenation and revitalization of manufacturing that is driving growth faster. | ||
| And as we look to 2026, Steve, when the Secretary talks about a boom and the president talks about a golden era, we're seeing it in these data figures, which are undisputably positive. | ||
| And the next piece that will come will be good, high-paying jobs. | ||
| That will be central to really restoring the economy from the sugar-high, unsustainable government spending blowout that we've had over the previous administration. | ||
| And of course, the president yesterday putting out executive orders talking about how the keep electricity, the whole thing with data centers, because right now, AI, the only thing that would hurt on the jobs part is artificial intelligence taking away some administrative managerial and coding jobs for folks 20 to 30 years old. | ||
| And that's going to be an issue. | ||
| But somehow President Trump and Besson will figure it out and work around. | ||
| Joe, where do people go? | ||
| Go ahead, sir. | ||
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| Yeah, sure. | ||
| I was just going to say, you know, you made an energy. | ||
| People did not believe that gasoline prices could fall well under $3 a gallon. | ||
| They're around $275, $280. | ||
| That's a huge tax cut for businesses and consumers. | ||
| And the president's initiatives on the utility side should also help. | ||
| So it's all good news. | ||
| They could follow the Treasury Secretary at Sec Scott Besson at U.S. Treasury. | ||
| And then I can be followed at LaVorne Unomics. | ||
| No, and the president's on a populist tear. | ||
| He's dealing with the mortgage issue. | ||
| He's dealing with the affordability of housing issue. | ||
| He's getting into the big banks about capping the interest rates at 10%. | ||
| He's all over full spectrum energy dominance and particularly dealing with these data centers to make sure they can't come back on the grid and torch folks. | ||
| He's all over. | ||
| President Trump is on a populist tear right now for economics, and we love it. | ||
| And there's even more to do, but we love what we're seeing so far. | ||
| Joe, thank you so much. | ||
| And thank you, Joe, for putting the intellectual framework, the disinflationary boom that you can see in the numbers right now. | ||
| So thank you, sir. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Rob Bluey, before you talk about the plan, we got a minute or so before we go to break. | ||
| Tell me about the Daily Signal. | ||
| It's one of the places I go every day. | ||
| We push the citizens free press and Gateway Pundit. | ||
| All the great sites out there that are free are not behind a paywall. | ||
| Give me a minute on Daily Signal, sir. | ||
| Well, I got to hang out with Jordan yesterday, Steve, from Gateway Pundit on the trip with Secretary Pete Hanks up to Texas, where War Room is now live and loaded. | ||
| So Daily Signal was started about a decade ago by those of us who are at the Heritage Foundation. | ||
| And then when Joe Biden and the folks in the White House took away our press credentials, we became an independent media organization. | ||
| But yeah, we are free. | ||
| We make sure our content is widely available. | ||
| And our goal is to translate the policy issues that are happening in Washington for the American people. | ||
| And that's why we love partnering with people like E.J. Antonio, who I know is a regular on War Room, to help explain economic issues in ways that the American people can understand and also put the pressure on members of Congress and other lawmakers to do the right thing. | ||
| Hang right there because you take policy seriously as we do, and you've broken down how do we get to a balanced budget? | ||
| Because the other aspect, if you get this growth going, you've got to cut federal spending. | ||
| Somehow, by hook or crook, we got to make sure we take care of these deficits because that's Damocles' sword over top of not just future generations, but you in this audience. | ||
| Now, more than ever, markets have been turbulent. | ||
| But you know what's quite interesting? | ||
| As I said, I'm quoted in Bloomberg today. | ||
| Yes, I am. | ||
| On the terminal, I said, hey, the equity market and the bond market, bond market got a little choppy yesterday, but no, no big deal. | ||
| I think they've got the back of President Trump on this fight with the central banks. | ||
| President Trump is not just about the inquiry into his and testimony of Powell. | ||
| This is President Trump going full Andrew Jackson on the central bank. | ||
| Jackson did it on the Bank of the United States. | ||
| President Trump's doing it on the Federal Reserve. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Rob Blowy, Tom Fitton, Alex deGrasse next. | ||
| Certainly the court could do that, Your Honor. | ||
| The court has not done that before, as I think we both agree. | ||
| And the result of that would be judge-made exceptions to laws anytime. | ||
| Right now, the Supreme Court, there is a major case. | ||
| This is about transgender. | ||
| This is about guys and women's sports, not transgender. | ||
| Anyway, it's guys and women's sports. | ||
| It's being argued at the Supreme Court. | ||
| Terry Schenley is going to be on later. | ||
| In fact, we're changing out to Gross is going to join us on here tomorrow because we've got to get shilling in here about this topic, and we will do that momentarily. | ||
| Back to Rob Bluey. | ||
| Rob, first off, lay out the case. | ||
| This is actually a proposal that's out there. | ||
| I think it's from the Republic. | ||
| Is this the Republican Study Committee's take on this, this 10-year budget, to get to break even in 10 years? | ||
| That's right, Steve. | ||
| The Republican Study Committee traditionally puts out their budget first, but now you can expect others to start releasing their budgets as well. | ||
| Some individual members of Congress do that. | ||
| Of course, the president in the White House will do that. | ||
| And I think the thing that's key, as you and Joe were talking about previously on the show, is the uncontrollable spending that we've witnessed, particularly during four years of Joe Biden. | ||
| But I mean, let's not discount George W. Bush and Barack Obama and others who contributed to this problem. | ||
| When George W. Bush left office, the national debt was about $10 trillion. | ||
| Today, it is $38 trillion. | ||
| I mean, so you can just imagine what's happened in the course of those presidencies. | ||
| And the Republican Study Committee is vowing that they can get it balanced in a matter of 10 years. | ||
| Now, that's just making sure that there's no deficit, no more money added to that debt. | ||
| Now, how do we do that? | ||
| Now, the president just came out and said he wants a $1.5 trillion defense budget, of which we love the military and love the president. | ||
| We're not fans of that. | ||
| But let's leave that aside. | ||
| And the Republican Study Committee, Peace Rose, it's a huge entity. | ||
| It used to be kind of the center-right. | ||
| It's not full MAGA because it's got a lot of, I would say, moderates in there, but it's a kind of center-right group. | ||
| But for years, they've been going through this exercise. | ||
| And I think it's a good bellwether to kind of get it as a baseline. | ||
| Just walk me through mechanics of how do you go roughly from we got five, you know, Scott Besson's the, and we're going to have Tax Network USA on here today to talk about that. | ||
| Scott Besson's overseeing the IRS, and Scott's got a mandate to squeeze every penny he can possibly get, but you have a $2 trillion deficit. | ||
| It looks like you have a $5.5 trillion coming in, $7.5 trillion going out. | ||
| How do they propose to close that, sir? | ||
| Well, and first to your point about the Republican Study Committee, I believe they have 189 members, and right now there are 218 House Republicans. | ||
| So pretty much includes a vast majority of House Republicans. | ||
| And so by them putting their weight behind it, you would hope that that would signal that they're serious about cutting government spending. | ||
| But Steve, you and I both know, because President Trump tried to do this upon taking office last year, how difficult it is when you actually get into the process of eliminating government programs and reducing that deficit that you talked about. | ||
| And so what the Republican Study Committee is attempting to do here is to go through department by department and eliminate what areas that they think are duplicative, wasteful, try to find efficiencies throughout the government. | ||
| Obviously, the president adding this $1.5 trillion for the Pentagon will be a hurdle that lawmakers in Congress will have to overcome. | ||
| But I think just like you and I are expected to balance our budget on a monthly basis, we should expect the same of our congressional representatives. | ||
| And Republicans have for years, if not decades, promised that they were going to do this all the way going back to the Tea Party when this issue first surfaced and became such an explosive topic among conservatives in particular. | ||
| I think it's really incumbent upon them to do so. | ||
| And again, to go back to the point that Joe and you were making earlier, the spending that we saw during the Biden years contributed to the inflation crisis that the American people faced. | ||
| Now, Scott Besant and Donald Trump have done yeoman's work to bring those levels down, the levels of inflation down. | ||
| But think about how much more progress we can make and the economic juice we can give them, this White House, if we were able to also reduce government spending. | ||
| But is it a charade? | ||
| Because what we're seeing out of Minneapolis, the federal part of that was all approved by, you know, since Johnson's been speaker and McCarthy's been speaker, since we've taken the house in 2022. | ||
| There have been a number of budgets. | ||
| All of that spending, all that spending was approved, and including, I'm finding out now, the National Endowment for Democracy, which has gone out of its way to shut down conservative voices. | ||
| I mean, just a horrible group. | ||
| They've got in this budget currently, I think it's $350 million. | ||
| So how can people take credibility from the House? | ||
| And look, I'm calling the House now and have been for six months, the Duma, because it's just all performative. | ||
| How do they get around the fact that everything we're seeing with the Somalians, and it's worse than that? | ||
| You know, we're going to have David Hoke on here probably tomorrow when he releases his new report. | ||
| The Somalian thing you see now, it's actually 10x when you look at all the programs, and it's in every state, particularly California and New York, which is worse. | ||
| This is the business model of the radical Democrats, right? | ||
| They get the illegal aliens in here, they get these bogus legal immigration, then they get them on welfare programs, they are stealing, and this is their Tammany Hall vote getting. | ||
| So, how can people take seriously the Republican study committees, which I'm all for? | ||
| I mean, my point is, let's do it in five years, not 10, because you're going to have the economic growth, the GDP growth underneath it to actually make this thing doable. | ||
| But when Congress that we've had since 22 has approved budgets that have gone and led to this Samaya thing and the Republicans looked the other way, you saw those fights. | ||
| You see them on the floor in the middle of the night when they're going through the appropriations. | ||
| You got Eli Crane and people out there, you know, Andy Biggs, the budget hawks, the deficit hawks arguing we got to cut these programs. | ||
| And the Republicans are worse than the Democrats just kicking the can down the road, sir. | ||
| Steve, there's so much I want to say there. | ||
| So, first of all, one of the things that first got me into this fight was the move way back when in the 2000s, when people like Tom Coburn and Jim DeMint and others were rallying against earmarks, and we were able to successfully stop earmarks in Congress. | ||
| Now, earmarks, as a grand scheme of things, didn't really make that much of a dent in the budget deficit. | ||
| However, it was an important step because everybody talked about earmarks as the gateway drug to more spending. | ||
| And if you got rid of earmarks, then maybe Republicans would start to make other changes to those welfare programs. | ||
| You're absolutely correct. | ||
| The fact that we've had millions of illegal aliens come into this country and now take benefits that should go to the American people is a huge problem and needs to be addressed. | ||
| But yes, even look at these recent budgets. | ||
| And I go back to a conversation I had with Russ Vogt, who was the director of OMB during President Trump's first term and is again. | ||
| And he said, oftentimes the problem lies exactly where you just placed it, Steve. | ||
| It's with Congress. | ||
| They refuse to make the tough choices and the budget cuts. | ||
| And that has been a consistent theme going all the way back to when Republicans had control, even in President Trump's first term. | ||
| And so I hope that they could move at a pace where they balance the budget within five years. | ||
| Maybe we should demand that they have an even aggressive timeline because it's going to only help President Trump achieve what he wants and Scott Besant have the economic growth that they think is possible. | ||
| I'll tell you what, I'll talk to you after the show. | ||
| We'll put some different assumptions in on economic growth. | ||
| And Rob Bluey, Daily Signal and the Worm will come up with a five-year plan. | ||
| But here's where they catch us every time: is when they want a defense budget increase, which is really the industrial policy of the United States. | ||
| Let's be blunt about it. | ||
| It's industrial policy of the United States. | ||
| So every time we want a Defense Department increase, we've got to accept some percentage social program increase. | ||
| And the catch is you can't go and really look at the social programs. | ||
| That's the Democrats' slush fund of how they stay in business. | ||
| If you choke that down and cut it off, they're out of business. | ||
| That's their business model. | ||
| Their business, a little starter cash is put up by the sources and those guys, right? | ||
| And these NGOs. | ||
| That's to get the field troops out there. | ||
| But the way they fund it, because they're not going to fund all of it, is on taxpayer money. | ||
| And those taxpayer monies are all through these social programs. | ||
| And when the Defense Department, when you want to increase defense budget, sacrosanct is the social, as you know, Rob, the social programs got to go up. | ||
| But most importantly, they won't let you get under the hood of the social programs. | ||
| What Minneapolis is showing is the business model of the Marxists, of the Red-Green Alliance. | ||
| It's right there in living color. | ||
| In War Room, Texas, one of the things we're drilling down on, we don't really even have a handle yet on what Texas, the state of Texas, and the federal government. | ||
| There's one number out there, it's $4 billion of state and federal money have gone to build mosques, Islamic centers, school choice with Islamics thing. | ||
| That's their business model. | ||
| If we can lance that boil, and I remember because at Breitbart, as you know, Rob, we partner with you all the time. | ||
| They fight the years we fought for earmarks, and you're right. | ||
| Overall, it's a small part, but it was a gateway drug to bigger spending. | ||
| Now they've gone back and they're doing earmarks like crazy. | ||
| So we have a big fight in front of us, Rob. | ||
| But we'll partner with you because right now, the reason the legislators don't take it seriously is that it's still financeable. | ||
| At some point, in 2035, I think you look at the 10-year budget, it's $2.5 trillion annually just for the interest payments. | ||
| It's over $2 trillion. | ||
| So when this hits, it's going to hit like a punch from sunny Liston right up in your face, and you're not going to be able to recover from it. | ||
| Rob Blewitt, your thoughts, sir. | ||
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| And I think the other important thing to point out is that when you have strong economic growth under a president like Donald Trump and a Treasury Secretary like Scott Besson, it's perhaps not necessarily the most glaring thing that's staring you in the face. | ||
| But with a Democrat in control who's only going to pour gasoline on that fire and probably not have the type of economic growth for our country, yes, Steve, you're absolutely correct that it is going to be a serious challenge that we will have to confront. | ||
| And who is it going to impact most? | ||
| Probably those young people who are entering the workforce and are staring at years to try to pay down this huge debt. | ||
| You know, to go back to an earlier point that you said, you know, what's the old quote? | ||
| You know, once you have a government program, it's impossible to actually remove it or eliminate it. | ||
| And that is true, as we saw with Obamacare and these subsidies, right? | ||
| I mean, the Democrats put that into place. | ||
| It's why for years, we as conservatives tried to repeal Obamacare and get it out of the government because we knew that this was going to be a situation where eventually the government would say, oh, oh, we'll take care of you. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| We'll just put more subsidies on it. | ||
| And then you end up with a situation like we're in now where nobody wants to give up their subsidies and somebody's going to have to be the bad guy. | ||
| And too often that falls on the feet of the Republicans who, in some cases, too weak knee to say no. | ||
| And you have a situation where it goes on in perpetuity. | ||
| And so I understand they have a narrow margin in the House. | ||
| It shrunk even more at the beginning of January, unfortunately. | ||
| But there are some tough calls they need to make. | ||
| And by the way, Steve, they can start this month because let's not forget that the government funding runs out on January 30th and there's an opportunity to make some cuts to the federal government right now, right here and now. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Rob, we got about a minute. | ||
| And Tom Finn is going to talk to us about voting, clean up the rolls in 2026 and what it means. | ||
| So the great Tom Finn is going to join us. | ||
| But I think right now we're heading to a government shutdown because I think the Democrats are sitting there going to dig in and say, hey, we're not going to fund ICE. | ||
| So that's going to be a big fight. | ||
| And my point is, bring it. | ||
| That's what you're going to say. | ||
| If that's what you are for, if you're for no deportations and open borders and all this, because it's the heart of their business model, right? | ||
| Let's just get it on and come back with a bunch of cuts and show them how we can roll. | ||
| Rob Bluey, social media, Daily Signal, how do people get there? | ||
| How do they follow you on social media? | ||
| Yeah, they can follow me at Robert Bluey and certainly follow the Daily Signal at Daily Signal. | ||
| We are keeping an eye. | ||
| We've got our reporters out there at the Supreme Court today, Steve, following the action there and all over D.C. | ||
| So thank you for having me back on War Room. | ||
| It's always a pleasure. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| We'll get to make sure we get your coverage of this huge, huge case in front of the Supreme Court today. | ||
| And Terry Schilling's going to join us. | ||
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| Here, critically, everyone agrees that for sports, for 99% of men, it's reasonably tailored. | ||
| It's just the 1% of trans-identifying individuals who take drugs and then those drugs are effective that's a problem. | ||
| And this court's decision in Michael M makes clear that that's not a viable as-apply claim. | ||
| In Michael M, this court upheld a statutory rape law that applied differently to men than women, and the rationale was because women faced a unique risk of pregnancy. | ||
| But of course, if either the male rapist or the female victim was infertile, there'd be no pregnancy. | ||
| So on their theory, you could have come in and said, well, I have an as-applied claim that I was infertile, so it was okay to rape the underage girl. | ||
| And this court not only rejected that, the court said it would be ludicrous, ludicrous, to say that you could bring an as-applied claim for pre-pubescent girls. | ||
| That's just not the way as applied scrutiny works in intermediate scrutiny cases. | ||
| That's equally true, as my friend said in Wynne. | ||
| In the court's decision in Wynn, the justification for the law was making sure that the parent knew that they were the parent and had an opportunity to have a relationship with the parent. | ||
| But Wynn's father knew about the birth, was present with Wynne the whole time, and brought Wynne to the United States. | ||
| Nevertheless, the court held for the class of men overall, it was recently tailored, and they weren't going to focus on the specific facts of when. | ||
| You started, Mr. Mukan, by saying that. | ||
| This is how insane these people are. | ||
| Is this about men? | ||
| These transgender freaks in women's sports. | ||
| Now, I will give you an example for my own personal life. | ||
| It's Mo is a little girl. | ||
| You know, she played all the different sports, and I coached her in basketball. | ||
| I coached her in basketball. | ||
| She played swarm ball or soccer. | ||
| Baseball, which was excellent, made the regional team in baseball. | ||
| Basketball, she played high school for a while, but volleyball was her big love and being a setter. | ||
| And she went to a school called American Martyrs and Manhattan Beach and Manhattan Beaches where Karch Karai and the beach volleyball Olympic team trained. | ||
| So she was right there. | ||
| All the coaches at this Catholic grade school Had played at USC or UCLA, and a lot of those people were either Olympic people or people who started at the at the top programs in the country. | ||
| So she was trained from a very as a very little girl to that. | ||
| And then she got started, and they had a championship team at American Martyrs for the Catholic League and for the State League. | ||
| And then she went to a big-time prep school that specialized one of the big specialties was women's sports. | ||
| And she played volleyball there under an incredible coach. | ||
| People would come from all over to play for this coach. | ||
| But in volleyball, as many of these sports, it's not really the school system that does it. | ||
| It's club teams because people could be in a school district that's just not going to be competitive, but club teams. | ||
| And these club teams are as close to a professional athlete as you can get. | ||
| I mean, it is a year-round. | ||
| They want you to drop other sports and totally commit. | ||
| And if you want to play at a big school Division I, right, you got to commit. | ||
| And you go to these massive things over the weekends, right? | ||
| I'm talking out of hundreds, hundreds of teams in Vegas and in Arizona and California. | ||
| And you'd sit there and watch these little girls and their parents. | ||
| It's a way out. | ||
| You see the Hispanic, the working class white, the black, and it's a way out. | ||
| It's a way to get a ticket punched. | ||
| It's a way to get your ticket punched to Division I or some ride a division school to school. | ||
| And I mean, great schools like the Lafayette's and the Hamilton colleges, the union colleges, these schools back east that recruit these kids nonstop. | ||
| You go to the recruiters nonstop, and these kids are dedicated. | ||
| They put in hour after hour after hour. | ||
| It's intense. | ||
| It's competitive. | ||
| And you're building up the spirit of the American people and doing it. | ||
| This is the stick-to-itiveness. | ||
| This is the grit, this determination. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| You're going to let men compete with these girls as they're striving to achieve their goal. | ||
| It's revolting. | ||
| And I don't want to hear about some freak that thinks he's a girl. | ||
| That's his problem. | ||
| And that's his freaking parents' problem. | ||
| And now you got to go all the way up to the Supreme Court and like give this official status. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| This is how insane the left is. | ||
| Naomi Wolf's going to be up here in a moment. | ||
| And she's going to tell you, is I got Naomi. | ||
| I got you on for something different, but go up and talk. | ||
| This thing is driving me nuts because I'm no feminist, but I saw in sports the way for working class kids of all races to get a ticket out. | ||
| And to hear this thing that you let boys come in and compete with them, it's a freak show. | ||
| Why are we putting on these little girls, these becoming women in the type? | ||
| I mean, aggressive, tough, stick-to-no quit, every American quality you want, right? | ||
| What Title IX was supposed to do, it actually, I saw that because my sisters, my dad was a great athlete, my brothers, my sisters weren't great athletes because that just wasn't the thing you did back then. | ||
| It's totally different now. | ||
| And yet we have this freak show, and that's what it is. | ||
| It's a freak show, ma'am. | ||
| Well, I don't agree with you that people who identify themselves as transgender are freak shows or freaks. | ||
| I don't think that's helpful language. | ||
| It doesn't help us understand each other. | ||
| But I definitely think that men who are seeking to. | ||
| But in my small McBrain, they're freaks. | ||
| But continue on. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Continue on. | ||
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| But I definitely think it's even more serious, right, than name-calling that men who are seeking to compete in women's sports are engaging in really abusive, intimidating, and inappropriate behavior on many, many levels. | ||
| It totally violates Title IX. | ||
| And then going down to the level of minors, I think you are a feminist in spite of yourself, Steve, because no one I've heard yet outside of a very small group of women, like Jennifer Say, the former, I think, Olympian athlete who's been very vocal about this, has expressed so well what the injustices are, as you just did. | ||
| You know, again, in spite of your commitment to not being a feminist, that's a very feminist set of empathic comments you made about the struggles of girls. | ||
| And you're a thousand percent correct. | ||
| It's girls from low-income neighborhoods, it's girls from the barrio, it's girls from, you know, middle-class, hard-working, working-class backgrounds. | ||
| And this is their one shot. | ||
| They're not going to come up with $60,000 a year to, you know, pay, their families won't, to pay for that college education. | ||
| If they want a college education, it's going to be through that hard work, that effort, that grit, as you put it, of playing a sport and excelling. | ||
| And the minute you've got a guy in a dress or with a ponytail or whatever de minimis thing he thinks he needs to do to be called a girl, competing, there's the advantage gone, but it's deeper than that. | ||
| There's the meritocracy gone. | ||
| There's her sense of fairness gone. | ||
| It's a crushing of dreams. | ||
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It's wrong. | |
| Hang one second. | ||
| We got a heart out. | ||
| You're going to stick with us. | ||
| We've got much more to talk about. | ||
| Naomi's going to get my mind right on this topic. | ||
| Naomi Wolf joins us. | ||
| Short commercial break. |