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| Islamic jihadis are plotting against you. | |
| Why in the hell do you think they're in Houston and in north of Dallas? | |
| They are working together to overthrow western civilization. | |
| Sharia compounds, which are areas governed by religious rules. | |
| We know who you are, we know what you are, and we know what you're trying to accomplish, and it is not going to happen in the jewel of the crown of the union of this republic. | |
| We purge any attempt to impose Sharia law in Texas. | |
| They are not coming. | |
| They are already here. | |
| You are not here properly, and you're going to leave. | |
| On the 3rd of March, Sharia law goes on the ballot in the state of Texas. | |
| The United States Constitution and Sharia are fundamentally at odds with one another. | |
| We're going to tell them, take your Sharia law and shove it. | |
| Islam will never dominate the United States, and by the grace of God, it will not dominate Texas. | |
| As Texas goes, so goes the nation. | |
| As the nation goes, so goes the world. | |
| Are you prepared to fight for this state? | |
| Are you prepared to fight for your country? | |
| War Room Texas, where your host, Stephen K. Bannon, starts right now. | |
| It's Monday, 12 January, in the year of our Lord, 2026. | |
| We start now, War Room Texas, and we'll go at least up to March, I don't know. | |
| Third, fourth, or fifth. | |
| The primary in Texas is the third. | |
| And on the ballot is a proposal to ban Sharia law. | |
| We're going to be covering that in detail of experts that know exactly what's going on in Texas, why it's important, and what can be done about it. | |
| I'm joined by Debbie Jurgadas, who's a National Committee woman for the RNC from the state of Texas. | |
| Debbie, you've been one of the ones that have kind of led this movement up to now to really drive this to people's attention. | |
| Tell us exactly, in your assessment, what is going on in Texas. | |
| In Texas, we've had over the last year, and actually now that we're paying attention to it, it's been much longer than a year, but a noticeable growth in a large number of Islamic communities forming for the first time, seemingly trying to create no-go zones, and a large number of Islamic schools, Islamic mosques, Islamic centers. | |
| Really, just in very recent years, and it came to the attention of many people because one of the areas which became, do you notice, epic, East Plain Islamic Center, purchased, I think it was 420 acres, and planned a Muslim-only community, but that's just a piece of it. But what the imam in charge up there, Yasir Qadhi, did on YouTube was telling people, hey, we're going to have inviting Muslims to come and try to live there because they were going to essentially have a closed off Muslim only community. | |
| And because he spoke up so boldly, there was a lot of pushback and a lot of attention to it. So there's that piece of it. There are two members of the Texas legislature who are. | |
| By background, Pakistani Muslims who've been pushing a series of legislative proposals, resolutions and legislative proposals, all of which are incrementally forcing or spreading Sharia, Islamic law. | |
| And it's a Sharia is just inconsistent with the American Constitution, inconsistent. | |
| With the structure of government in America. | |
| So this is a there's a legislature, there's a growth of schools, there's a growth of communities and other organizations. | |
| If you may get into later today, I don't know, but radical organizations are now headquartering themselves, radical Islamic organizations headquartering themselves in Texas. | |
| And it has become an issue of major concern because many people in Texas pay attention to what's happening in London and throughout the UK and France and Austria and Germany and the Netherlands. | |
| They pay attention and watch this kind of Islamic sweep into those countries and they really are has become a battle to hold on to Western civilization and their structure of laws and government and the Islamic culture and way of life and its structure of Sharia law that just are incompatible. | |
| So many Texans are watching that and trying to preempt that from occurring here. | |
| So, Debbie, a couple of things have happened that have been extraordinary. | |
| It's one of the reasons. | |
| That you helped us and it came together with the Patriot Mobile Team and others, American Freedom Alliance, to bring Gert over to have Glenn Beck. | |
| This thing was extraordinary. | |
| We're going to play parts of that over the next couple of days as we kick off War Room Texas. | |
| But a couple of things. | |
| Number one, Governor Abbott. | |
| And Governor Abbott has, I think, People in the War Room Posse understand this hasn't exactly been cutting edge on enforcement, either on the border incursions during the Biden years or other aspects, but he did come out. | |
| So three things have happened that are huge, monumental, and we have to let the nation know they're happening, and maybe even some Texans. | |
| Abbott came out and declared the Muslim Brotherhood in Care terrorist organizations, and he did it in this way that was quite detailed. | |
| Now, I realize there's a lot of aspects of this. | |
| That we want to see and other people want to see that actually put some teeth in this, but Abbott did declare before the President of the United States and before Ron DeSantis, so DeSantis followed in Florida, the President put it up as a study to look at Jordan and, you know, different countries around the world and how the Muslim Brotherhood has been a terrorist organization. | |
| I can tell you from the first term, of all the things we accomplished, particularly in that historic first year, the one thing I tell people that, you know, from moving the capital or the embassy of the United States to the capital in Jerusalem, historic. | |
| One thing we got zero traction on, and I mean zero, was designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. | |
| Inside the federal government, it was just a pure beatdown. | |
| It wouldn't even be considered. | |
| So what President Trump did is historic. | |
| But Abbott, number one, has declared in the state of Texas the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE as terrorist organizations. | |
| Brian Harrison, the great Texas House Representative, comes from the war in Milan, has been at the forefront of defending Ken Paxton and really brought to our attention and helped galvanize the defense of Ken Paxton on the impeachment. | |
| And more importantly. | |
| He was the voice that came on and said, hey, we've got to have a special session on the redistricting to get the five seats minimum that is going to be central to President Trump holding the House and not getting impeached in November of this year. | |
| He says, listen, I'm moving immediately. | |
| He announced this on Friday at our working session that he's putting forward to have open hearings on Sharia law, open hearings on all this. | |
| invasion, Islamic invasion of Texas, open hearings in Texas. | |
| Everybody can see it. And in fact, that the certain members of the Muslim population can also come and make their case. | |
| Then he wants a special session called just for the issues of the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization and care. | |
| And number three, and the thing that we're most focused on here, at least in the short term, is this March 3rd proposal that's on the ballot to ban Sharia law. | |
| From the state of Texas. | |
| Can you walk us through, all three of those are the efforts that we're using the War Room platform to bring Texans in and make sure they have full information from the experts we have, from all that. | |
| But most importantly, it's to galvanize the grassroots like they were galvanized both on the Paxson impeachment and the redistricting effort so that their voices can be heard in what we call kind of the fixed bayonets. | |
| When you have to kind of nudge somebody in the back to get it done. | |
| Can you walk us through your thoughts on how we pull the grassroots, as you've been a leader of this in the state, but how we pull that together to deliver a punch, at least on the 3rd of March? | |
| Ma'am. | |
| Yes. Steve, I'm glad you mentioned the effort under President Trump's first term to try to get traction in Washington about the idea of designated Muslim Brotherhood and the larger concern about how many people come to America from countries where Islam as a radical Sharia-based doctrine is in place. And I think the reason that people, | |
| it was hard to get traction in Washington is the same thing we're facing in Texas. Americans have a good-hearted, general sense about freedom of religion. They don't want to pick on somebody else. So they have to, the failure to understand what Sharia represents, what Islam, what history is, is the reason that you can't get people motivated. So turning to Texas, | |
| starting with a third point about the March 3rd. ballot proposition it's very simple and it's just advisory it has no it doesn't become a constitutional amendment it just says texas should prohibit sharia law so the reason um that what i'm doing what the basic motivation i have is to spread understanding what sharia is Because if you just think it's like the Ten Commandments that the Jews and Christians follow, | |
| or it's kind of like the Sermon on the Mount, it is not. Sharia is an entire structure of government. It's designed to replace the Constitution and all of our laws. And so when you get that understanding what Sharia is, | |
| it is a form trying to inflict Sharia on any other country that is not Muslim and didn't ask for it. It's a form of jihad. It's a form of attack. So the understanding of what Sharia is matters greatly and getting people to understand that is very, | |
| very important. And so that's among the things the group I've been working with here in Texas, our primary goal is to continue to spread that understanding so that people know what they're voting for and why. They have to know deeply why they should care so much, | |
| why it makes any difference. So going back to your first point, I'm very happy that Governor Abbott did make that declaration. He declared Muslim Brotherhood and CARE terror organizations and transnational criminal organizations. I know a little bit about how that came about, | |
| but I think that, you know, the idea of boldly stating that only happened because the governor became concerned about the level of activity of these Islamic conquerors in Texas. This Islamic conquest that's happening in Texas. And he realized that the people would have his back. I think he came to recognize enough serious conservatives, | |
| serious Republican voters understood the issue. So they would back him. He didn't want to go out on a limb and discover that even his own base wasn't going to support him. But I think he's become aware because of the activism in Texas on the issue that he will have the backing. But the hard question with that, | |
| and one that I still have not entirely figured out. Is exactly how to implement it. He did say, our Governor Abbott did say, after making that declaration, he ordered DPS, the Department of Public Safety, to investigate and potentially bring about prosecutions connected to that designation. But it's kind of hard to figure what exactly he does. I think that there are, what even DPS does, | |
| and he needs specific targets. I think that's one of the purposes of War Room Texas is to give them some guidance in that because we're going to drill down deeply throughout the state with people like John Gordino and others. Just hang on for one second while you're going to be my co-host for the first hour. I want to go to Don Huffines. Don, | |
| you're running for Comptroller of Texas. First off, can you explain what the Comptroller of Texas actually is? What it does and why it's important. And then I want to ask you the questions about how does this tie in with this situation with Sharia law, sir? Thank you, Steve. I appreciate being on your show and everything you're doing for the state of Texas. And, you know, in Texas, we don't need to be looking anywhere for our answers. We don't need to be looking to Washington. We're very independent. We've got a great heritage, | |
| and I'm The foundation of our liberty is from the blood of Texas patriots. But let me tell you how important the comptroller's position is. It's a statewide elected position. And the cowboys that set our state constitution up in the 1870s, | |
| they wanted the comptroller to report to the people. I'm elected statewide. I don't report to the governor's office or to the state legislature. Statewide position. I'm the chief financial officer for the entire state. And I remind everybody how big and the scale of Texas. If we were our own country, We'd have the eighth largest GDP in the world. | |
| We're spending over $500 million every day, seven days a week. | |
| I'm in charge of collecting all the revenue for the state, I'm in charge of setting the budget for the legislature. | |
| And I'm in charge of managing the money. | |
| But the thing I like the most about this position is I'm also in charge of the spending. | |
| I have eyes and ears on all of that money that Texas is spending. | |
| And I've got a constitutional responsibility to make sure that money is being spent properly, effectively. | |
| And my goal is to root out fraud, waste, and abuse in over 200 state agencies. | |
| And I'm taking the position of any government, any state government or local government that uses Texas taxpayer money. I have a right to audit them. I have a right to find out how it's being spent. I have 3,000 employees. This position does its own law enforcement division, | |
| has over 80 attorneys in-house, and we have 600 auditors. I'm turning most of those auditors loose to audit government, because I'm also a business guy. And I know that a dollar we don't spend is another dollar we've saved, | |
| and we comply to our overburdens and property tax. First, let me go back to the history, because of my speech on Friday night. I said the reason that there's a focus on this from throughout the world with these Sharia supremacists is because the great state of Texas, | |
| what it's meant in American history and what it means for the American people today. I say this as a Virginian. Texas is the jewel in the crown of our union. But go back to the family, the cowboys in 1870, the pioneers in 1870. Even at that time. When government was very small, they wanted a financial person in that position or a person in that position that reported to the people of Texas, | |
| did not report to the political elite. They could look downrange and understand that this state was going to be huge one day, right? There was always huge in land, but it was going to be huge in economic powerhouse. And they wanted somebody there as a guardian for the people, did they not? Absolutely, they did. Of course, they really did. I mean, they had a lot of foresight for that, and our legislature only meets every other year for 140 days, | |
| and they didn't want the legislature signing the checkbook, and they didn't want the executive branch doing that. And in Texas, unfortunately, I always ask this question, who runs Texas? And it's a bureaucratic state. It's an administrative state. And unfortunately, | |
| most of those folks are all Democrats, of course. We saw what happened in Washington when we've been gaslighted forever. And, you know, I always say this, no one likes cleaning out the garage, but I plan on doing that. And everyone likes pulling in when it's done. But our heritage is quite clear. And it really is. And we're very independent. We're very unique. And we're very special. And as you mentioned the other night. When I was there, | |
| I mean, our brand is second to none. It really is. Everyone in the world knows Texas. There's nowhere you can go on the Earth planet that they haven't seen, like you said, Western movies and things like that. Hollywood made Texas famous. But let me tell you, the Alamo was real. San Jacinto is real. Those are battles. And then, you know, I like pointing out to people real quick that they weren't necessarily military. | |
| Battles at the Alamo, when everyone was slaughtered. | |
| We all know what Bowie And Crockett, we know that. | |
| Those were battles fought by civilians, Civilians that took up arms against tyrants and they were slaughtered. | |
| But that's very unique. | |
| That's what the main thing that makes these battles. | |
| Texas was an independent country. | |
| We declared independence and we had our own currency, We had our own president for over a decade before we voted to join the union. | |
| You know, Don, the reason this is so timely is that we've had, the day I gave the speech, and Glenn Beck was there and Gerd Wilders, to give the warning from Europe, Gerd Wilders is one of the great heroes in the world, is that we had this fiasco in Minneapolis and I worked over the weekend both on getting the Texas show up and running, | |
| I also worked as much time on what's happening in Minneapolis and different things are coming out today, tomorrow, the next day, with Don Hoke. And others that are coming out with these more detailed explanations of what's happening in Minneapolis, | |
| and it's 10 times worse than just the daycare centers. I mean, that's part of your responsibility. Part of your responsibility, and the reason you and I have talked offline, that you're so enthusiastic, you're going to be the guardian that goes in and makes sure that if there are those types of situations in Texas, | |
| you get to the bottom of it quickly, but as importantly, that it can never happen again. What's happening in Minneapolis in Texas, sir? That's exactly right. Look, we've only had three Republican comptrollers in the history of our state, and I'm venture to say I'm the first. When I win, I'll be the first actual Republican to sit there. And let me just, you know, point out something. I'm the MAGA candidate. I've supported the president 16, 20, 24. I've bundled money for him, | |
| donated money for him. I've been a delegate to every convention. National convention for him to vote for him. As a matter of fact, two of my sons have worked in Washington in the 20 campaign, | |
| and one of my sons worked in there in the White House today. We just lost Don. Okay, we'll get him back up here in a second. Debbie, your thoughts about the controller and the importance of the controller in the state of Texas is one to make sure there's not a situation like the Somalian situation. But this is one of the Analysis that you did and others did for the session we had, the 150 leaders of the grassroots movements that you brought together. | |
| It was pretty shocking to me, the meetings I'd had in Texas on Thursday and Friday, the amount of money that looks like the state of Texas and the federal government, but particularly the state of Texas, has given to some of these situations that kind of fund the backbone of Sharia law. | |
| I was stunned at the amount of money. | |
| Now, I realize people haven't had the chance to get in there and look, they're just taking it off of public documentation. | |
| But I think Texans, when they understand that, their heads will blow up. | |
| They'll say, what exactly in the hell are we doing, ma'am? | |
| Could not agree more. | |
| Yes, the data you're talking about, really, from public record is not a speculation, but it's money coming either from the federal government or from the Texas Treasury, but it's all going through the comptroller's office, where Don Huffey, he's running for that office, went through the comptroller, and I think it was since 2016 until now. | |
| is something in the range of four beers and boy billion dollars that's made its way to Islamic organizations in Texas. State or federal, when an organization has a fairly friendly sounding name, and this is not a real name, but just, you know, the happy children in preschool or something like that, there's not close scrutiny. Well, | |
| what is this group? And who are they really? Is there actually a school? And my colleague, who downloaded and created the spreadsheets we were all looking at and became aware of it, she discovered that some of these institutions that And there's nothing there, | |
| or it's a warehouse district. So I think there has been a flow of money to that degree, similar to Minneapolis, where people were just not aware it was going to things that were not appropriate. And even if institutions exist, if those institutions are actually using the money for the purpose intended by the taxpayers, by the government, And then, or some of it being shipped off, as was the case in the Holy Land Foundation trial in Texas. People were raising, donating money, | |
| and it was being sent off, essentially, to support terrorism. So I think the comptroller in Texas is a massively important job for someone who can really have the backbone, the determination, the tenacity to dive in and dissect all of it, figure out where it went. Obviously, as a doge, try to cull some of it back if you can, but at the very least, stop the flow and understand if our money's been going to support terror. And I'll stop if you have Don back, | |
| Otherwise, I'll add another point about the issue of Sharia in Texas. | |
| If you are an Islamic school in Texas, you are undoubtedly teaching Sharia, and Sharia, a fundamental component of Sharia that everyone needs to understand, Sharia is teaching, the core of it is that the world should be ruled by Sharia. | |
| The world should be ruled by Islamic caliphate under Sharia as the law. | |
| So if children are being taught that in schools, I mean, these are Texas school kids, but when they go to school every day, instead of learning about the beauty of the Declaration of Independence and magnificence of those thinkers and the Constitution and the Federalist Papers, all of that brilliance about the rights of man. | |
| you're learning instead, in Islamic schools, that Sharia should govern the world, and Sharia is barbaric. Brutal, unchangeable, sexist, violent. There's nothing about it that you would want to have in America. So the question for the comptroller is, | |
| can he get direction from the legislature to say, we're not going to have any money coming through the Texas comptroller's office heading its way into schools that teach Sharia? Now, I don't think that Don Huffinger, | |
| whoever is initiate that on his own he has to have direction from the legislature but it seems like the legislature ought to be willing to look closely at is any money going to schools that teach sharia because it's like sending a kid to school to teach overthrow the american government and institute communism we wouldn't spend tax dollars on those kind of schools we would say no we don't do that here same thing that has to happen we were able to get We're able to get Don back up, So hang on for a second, Debbie. | |
| Don Huffines, your mandate as controller, what is your mandate, particularly as we found just in a cursory investigation just off of public documentation coming out of the controller's office? | |
| It looks like either tens, hundreds of millions of dollars in some case with the federal government, maybe billions of dollars that have gone to support some of these Islamic either centers, schools, et cetera. | |
| People are very confused. | |
| Obviously, we're going to do a deeper investigation and get to the bottom of it. | |
| But from the controller's office, what do you actually what what is actually your mandate? | |
| Well, I can tell you this. | |
| I'm not going to let any money be spent anywhere in the state of Texas by any organization or affiliation with with terrorist organizations. | |
| The governor's already declared it declared care and Muslim Brotherhood terrorist organizations. | |
| I'm not going to I'm not going to make sure I'm going to make sure no money is goes out. | |
| I'm not looking for the legislation permission from the legislature, contrary to what Debbie said, Debbie. | |
| I love Debbie. She's endorsed my campaign. She's great. Look, I'm taking the comptroller's position to a place it's never been. I'm going to make sure that we do not give any money. To anyone that's promoting Sharia law, it's any group or organization that has any affiliation with these terrorist organizations. And it's not just those, Steve. Illegals in the state of Texas, | |
| we need to deport every single one of them out of the state of Texas. We have right now, we're spending about $8 billion educating illegals, for instance, in our school system, our government school system, of kids that aren't supposed to be here. We've been doing that since the 1982 Pollard-Smith case in Smith County, Texas. And that's something that other states don't have to deal with, | |
| is Texas taxpayers have been suffering for decades with this problem. We've got CCP students, Chinese Communist Party students, tens of thousands of them. Don, can you hang on? Hang on one second. Debbie, Hang on. | |
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | |
| We're going to return and John Gardino is going to join us. | |
| He's going to leave you the music of THE Searchers. | |
| Back in a moment. | |
| As the nation goes, so goes the world. | |
| Are you prepared to fight for this state? | |
| Are you prepared to fight for your country? | |
| welcome back to War Room, Texas. Don, we're going to spend a lot more time with you between now and March 3rd, but can you give people where to go to find it? I think your commitment to say, hey, you're not going to let a situation like Minneapolis... Uh, happened in Texas. Now, maybe it already happened. You'll find out with your investigation and stop it. But, uh, just knowing you have the political will to do that, uh, because that thing up there is horrible. More information is coming. I said tonight, watch Laura Ingram, by the way, tonight, | |
| Don Hoke's going to be up there. One of the investigators on the Laura Ingram show. Uh, Don, where can people find out more about you and your campaign, sir? Well, I'm the only MAGA candidate in this race. And if you want to stop. Sharia law in the state of Texas, | |
| and you want to put people in jail for stealing our money, your money, you need to go to DonHuffines.com. Don Huffines, H-U-F-F-I-N-E-S.com. You can read about my platform, everything I'm going to do, and I do what I say I'm going to do. Don Huffines, | |
| you're tough as boot leather. You got that Texas cussiness that we need in this situation. We've known you for a long time, and I love you, man. Thank you so much, and thank you for running, putting yourself out there. We appreciate it. Everybody in the world. You're welcome. Thank you. God bless you, and God bless Texas. Glenn, thank you, | |
| brother. Glenn Story, I want to thank you and Jenny and the entire team working with Debbie and others. The Friday, I've gotten, and I've done these for years, you know, for going on, I don't know, 15 years or so. That was extraordinary. One of the most extraordinary things about it, | |
| besides the world-class nature of it, that you and Jenny and the team and Debbie pulled this off, and others pulled this off. I think from Christmas Eve to now. I've never seen anything of the holidays take place. I want to thank you. And talk to me about Patriot Mobile's commitment to make sure that we set things right down in Texas, | |
| sir. Look, we're 100% committed to this. I mean, you know, when we talked about it long ago, we looked at it and said, hey, there's nothing that's a bigger threat today than This Islamification, actually, it really boils down to Sharia law and how it's contrary to that of our Constitution. Where do you go? I want people to find out more about Patriot Mobile, more about everything you guys are doing, | |
| both on the political side and the company itself. So just tell me, what's the simplest way for people to go and find out more about it? Yeah, patriotmobile.com. And if you're going to buy a phone, you got to put forward slash Bannon. Because that's where you get a free Samsung A16 or a smartphone. And then on the other side, if you really want to look at what we do, go down to the bottom and look at the different causes that we support. Look, | |
| we love America. You know, I was a Christian. I was born and raised a Christian. I believe God is at the helm of our business. And, you know, we live by those biblical And that drives what we do. We love our country. My dad served in World War II. You know, | |
| my business partner, Scott Coburn, his dad served in Vietnam for a number of years. And we just live by these patriot values. And, you know, whether it's First Amendment, Second Amendment, right to life, military, and first responders, | |
| So we look at that and we say, everything we do is geared to those causes. And what we did over the holidays really boiled down to, you know, putting together a group of folks. That aligned with our values. It's customers that we work with, | |
| partners, and we just said, hey, are y'all willing to do this? And Stephen, you remember when we had the conversation, I said, yeah, we'll do this. And I went home to tell Jenny, and she was like, dude, we're not going to be able to do this. This is a heavy lift. And I said, we'll figure it out. And she was able to, you know, she had a God came to her that night and said, hey, here's what we're going to do. We're going to assemble these groups that were all You know, we have different views, you know, whether it's First Amendment, | |
| Right to life, etc. | |
| But we all love our creator, and then we love our country and we love our family. | |
| So it was a no-brainer and you were there. | |
| There wasn't a seat in the house that was empty. | |
| Even the control room was full. | |
| No, it was incredible, incredible. | |
| Gert gave almost an hour speech. | |
| That was so moving about what happened in Europe when they didn't stand up to this where they are today. | |
| Glenn Becks was enormous. | |
| Uh, just incredible. | |
| So everything you guys pulled off one more time. | |
| Where do they go to find out more about Patriot Mobile? | |
| You're going to be with us for this entire journey through three march, through the primary. | |
| So where are you going to? | |
| Where can people get you? | |
| Yeah, Patriotmobile.com Forward Slash Bannon or better yet. | |
| you want to talk to an East Texas Redneck, call 972-PATRIOT and talk with them. But Stephen, I've got to say one thing. I know you're not going to tout your own horn, but you brought in the energy that was just incredible. And then Beck kind of took it a different way. But then remember that comment about a Hugo Boss suit. He says, who made those Nazi uniforms? And that was Hugo Boss. I'm like, | |
| I went home that night and I threw everything out that was Hugo Boss. I put it in the garbage. I guarantee I won't be wearing that crap anymore. Sorry for the language. One of the many reasons I don't wear Hugo Boss. Glenn Story, thank you so much, sir. Appreciate you. Glenn Story and Jenny. The team that pulled it together. Thank you, sir. John Guandola, I want to, because you're going to be on many, many times between now and March 3rd, | |
| I want to do a little introduction. I talked about, in the first term, the failure that I remembered, even at the time, the one that we couldn't move anything on was trying to get the Muslim Brotherhood designated as a terrorist organization inside the U.S. government. It was a full shutdown, and I really put a ton of effort in this. I've known you for a long time, sir. In fact, and tell people about your journey. We're going to get specific about Texas a little bit today, but then the days and weeks ahead from you, because you know more than anybody. Your background, in fact, | |
| you're one of the guys that inspired me when Gaffney introduced me to you back when I was running Breitbart and doing Breitbart News Radio that you came on so many times. What is your background? You are one of the top experts in this country on this topic, and you certainly are, I think, among the one or two best trainers. of in this topic of Sharia law. John Guandola, your story, sir. Well, thanks for having me again, | |
| Steve. I appreciate it. I appreciate especially all you're doing for my home state now, Texas. So I grew up in Maryland, went to the Naval Academy, took a commission as a Marine officer, Served as an infantry and reconnaissance officer in the U .S. Marine Corps, served in Combat. | |
| Left the Marine Corps and joined the FBI and served in the criminal division for about five years and, after 9 -11, transitioned over to the counterterrorism division and, through a series of investigations, came to see that not only are the most prominent Islamic organizations in the United States hostile, primarily Muslim Brotherhood organizations, | |
| But the leaders of these organizations were, and in many cases still are, the exclusive advisors to state, local, | |
| and federal organizations, the government. And that's why I believe we are in the situation we are today where our leaders have been leaning on the enemy to tell us how to defeat the enemy. I was working with agents and police officers and analysts and others in and out of the federal government, State and local government, who did not know this. | |
| I started meeting with them and teaching them, which culminated in the summer of 2006. | |
| I put together the first training on the Islamic movement globally and in the United States and how to deal with it, Got recruited out of the FBI by the Department OF Defense, by Rich Higgins, in the irregular warfare section, and began doing this work at a strategic, much more strategic level and briefing senior leaders. | |
| First of all, tell people what a historic figure Rich Higgins, who's Rich Higgins and why is he a historic figure in this entire effort to make sure of the safety and security for the United States Of America, sir? So first of all, it's kind of a good story. A colleague of mine, a very close friend and very experienced warrior said, hey, if you're doing what you're doing, and I was still in the FBI at the time, he said, | |
| you've got to talk to Rich Higgins. So he gave me Rich's personal number and I called him on a Friday night and I introduced myself. I said, there's John I'm briefing a very small select group of people with my colleague from the DOD and I'm told you should be there. And he laughed and he's like, | |
| am I under investigation or something? He actually tells this book, this story in his book. But he shows up, Steve Coghlan and I brief him on the Islamic threat, on the Muslim Brotherhood and on beyond the Muslim Brotherhood, the Iranians, | |
| the Diobandis, the whole Islamic network in the United States. And Rich is, to your question, Rich had the ability to take that, put that into practice strategically, operationally, | |
| and tactically, and was able to do things inside the DOD that were very successful. And he, as you know, he became in the last Trump administration, the director of strategic planning. For the National Security Council. He passed away. It's a great loss, | |
| not only of a great friend of ours, but of somebody who could have been a real leader in the nation today. But we pick up that mantle and we carry it on. John, | |
| with Rich, what you and Major Coughlin found out, because I remember getting these briefings from you guys back in those days, it shocked you, did it not? I mean, it took a guy who'd been force recon. It's hard to shock a force recon Marine. You guys were shocked. Major was shocked. You were shocked about what you found out the reality inside this country and inside the U.S. government. Is that safe to say? Yeah, | |
| there were two shock points for me. One is as I was doing these investigations and came to Of the prominent Islamic organizations in the United States were involved in these cases. The FBI and others, other agencies had open, Hamas cases, al-Qaeda cases, and they were directly tied into them, the leadership, both domestically and overseas. | |
| And so what was first shocking to me was that piece of it. | |
| But then to see, when you see that the guy, Abdurrahman al-Moodi, who was the Islamic advisor to President Clinton for eight years, was the largest al-Qaeda fundraiser in the United States. | |
| When we saw that, you know, guys like Gumurad Kalimov was an ISIS commander and the State Department trained him five times in the United States on weapons and tactics training. | |
| When you see guys like Mohammed Majid, who's one of the senior Muslim Brotherhood leaders in the United States and North America, serving inside, you know. | |
| the Bush administration inside the Obama administration, having meetings with the president, you know, offering prayers at Mr. Trump's inaugural prayer session at the National Cathedral, serving under the Biden administration on the, you know, Commission for Religious Liberty, getting FBI director awards. When you see these things, when you see a guy like Mahar Bittar, | |
| a Hamas leader being the director of intelligence for the National Security Council under the Biden administration, this is criminal. But for them, for the Islamic movement, it's a war. On how to win the war, | |
| which is why we lost in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc. The second thing that was a huge shocker is when I started getting asked to go into these meetings with senators and generals and admirals and former FBI, CIA directors and having private briefings with them and explaining, this is what's actually going on. | |
| And this is the real threat. | |
| It's not just Al Qaeda. | |
| It's much, much bigger than that. | |
| None of the people I ever briefed had any clue about the strategy of the enemy, what Sharia actually is, and that there is a massive jihadi network in the United States of what I call suit-wearing jihadis, guys that have ties and coats and they look nice and they talk nice, | |
| but they're up on Capitol Hill meeting with members of Congress and senators and national security staffers, and they're Hamas and they're Al Qaeda and they're ISIS. | |
| And they have access. | |
| And in many cases, like guys like Muhammad Ali Biar. | |
| working with DHS and having secret and TS clearances and undermining the national security of the United States. And there's no vetting for this. And this is the problem. These guys are operating with impunity. And we're literally not only doing nothing, | |
| by not understanding Sharia, by not understanding the enemy and how they operate, good people in the government that want to do the right thing are inadvertently aiding and abetting them. And I think that's the worst situation of all. I want to, | |
| because I'm running out of time, and I want to make sure you're going to be one of our continual guests here, but just in a couple of minutes, you've now moved to Texas for a reason. How serious is this situation in Texas, even as we speak, sir? Texas is the target of the North American Islamic movement. It's the most important target for them. Just so your viewers understand, | |
| the Muslim Brotherhood here in the United States refers to Mr. Trump as their guy. And I don't think it's because Mr. Trump wants to support the Muslim Brotherhood. Because of the way Mr. Trump is responding to this threat, | |
| and the way I think his advisors are telling him he can parse out the good guys from the bad guys, which They believe they've got a handle on the Trump administration, | |
| and I don't see any evidence they don't. And it's the same way in Texas. We have the leadership in Texas saying, you know, no Sharia and the Muslim Brotherhood is bad. And we're going to designate them terrorists. But there's no understanding. I hear a lot more people today talking about Sharia, | |
| but if you ask them, explain to me what Sharia is, they can't talk for 10 seconds coherently. And if you can't do that, you don't understand how they're doing. Texas is their target. And let me give a few quick examples. The largest terrorism financing trial ever successfully prosecuted in American history, | |
| Holy Land Foundation in Dallas, Texas, was adjudicated in Texas. The headquarters for Hamas in the United States is Chicago. Number two hub, Dallas, Texas. The worst city in the United States. My organization's assessment, | |
| my assessment, for the combined communist-jihadi threat, Houston, Texas. The most jihadi attacks in the United States, Texas. The largest Islamic charity in America, the Holy Land Foundation. It was based in Texas, and it was a Hamas organization. These are not coincidences. And they moved one of their most important scholars from their previous target, Tennessee, from Memphis, Yassir Qadhi, to Plano, Texas, | |
| who's the guy behind Epic and Epic Cities. And this is a serious situation. They're calling Muslims from around the United States to come to Texas for what they believe is the final stand. This is, for Texas, the second Alamo standoff. And Texans have to decide we're standing firm and we're not only not taking any more steps backwards, we're going to lean into the enemy and vanquish them. John, | |
| where do people go to get more of your information about you in this crisis in Texas, sir? JohnGuandolo.com. Got a lot of resources there. Also have a newsletter. Keep up. And I'm also on Twitter daily at JayGuandolo54271. But if you search JayGuandolo, So you'll find it and you can get updates. | |
| And there's a lot of info being pushed out there as well. | |
| Look forward to having you back on, sir. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you for your service to the country and for this current crisis. | |
| Debbie, we've got about a minute. | |
| Where do people go? | |
| You're going to be, thank you for co-hosting the initial show. | |
| You're going to be a frequent guest and co-host. | |
| Where do people go to get your information, ma'am? | |
| Thank you, Steve. | |
| On X or Twitter, it's at Debbie Can We Talk, D-E-B-B-I-E. | |
| Can We Talk? | |
| My talk show is America Can We Talk? | |
| You'll find that at americacanretalk.org or .com. | |
| And we have a website coming. | |
| We have a sub-stack. | |
| Thank you for putting that. | |
| We have a sub-stack. | |
| can we talk? And we also have a new website coming up, bansharia.com. Bansharia.com is going to be the resource in Texas for voters to go to, to figure out the March 3rd primary issue and well Debbie, thank you so much. Look forward to seeing you back maybe tomorrow. Talk to you after the show. Thank you so much. We're going to lay it all out for you. There's a crisis down in Texas. They've targeted Texas, the Muslim Brotherhood, CARE, The jihadis. | |
| They've targeted Texas for the implementation of Sharia law. | |
| And it's Texas that are going to stop this, roll it back, and get rid of it. | |
| We'll see you tomorrow morning at 10 a .m. Eastern Standard Time, when you'll be in the War Room. | |
| We leave you now with a classic from The Searchers. |