Episode 5057: The Fraud Continues In Minnesota; Color Revolution In America
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You witnessed in Minnesota yesterday a tragedy, the death of Renee Goode on the streets at the hands of a federal agent.
You also witnessed last night a beautiful vigil, a peaceful visual, people expressing their constitutional and First Amendment rights in a peaceful manner.
And for that, I say thank you.
I've been very clear.
We need a couple things here.
We need Minnesota to carry out this investigation to make sure that the professionals at the BCA and that local law enforcement who's in charge of law enforcement make sure we do the investigation and then to pull back this unnecessary surge.
And so with that, I would ask for all of us to continue to do this peacefully, continue to raise our voices, but do so in a manner that brings about that sense of community.
In Minnesota, I'm declaring tomorrow at 10 a.m. on January 9th, I'd ask everyone to pause for a moment of silence to remember Renee Goode, also to remember all that's good and right about this nation.
And I'm going to ask folks, if they can, I'd ask employers to give their people some space.
I'd ask each and everyone to find a way to contribute in your community.
It might be shuffling your neighbor's walk.
It might be being at a food bank.
It might be pausing to talk to someone you haven't talked to before, but to show the goodness, to rise up, to make sure that we're being very, very clear about this, that we expect our constitutional rights to be respected, that law enforcement is local, that we expect accountability of our elected leaders, and that we are not going to go quietly.
And we're not going to give up on those things that matter so much to us.
And chief amongst those is human dignity, respect, rule of law, all of the things that we know make this country great.
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With no cause and murdering people for trying to flee and for obeying a command to leave the area and then shooting her in the face like that after she drops her kid off at school.
There's we have to show up with guns.
We have to.
There's no other way around it.
I don't care if I don't have a Minnesota carry permit.
I'm unarmed right now, but this is the last time I show up to face these guys without a weapon.
There's no way.
I got shot with a pepper ball five minutes after walking in here.
It's Friday, January 9th in the year of our Lord 2026.
It's Natalie Winters hosting, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon.
And I think he's down in Texas doing, I'm sure, a wonderful live event.
So I was going to say you're stuck with me.
You're not stuck.
Don't worry.
We've got a packed show.
We're going to speed through.
I think basically all the show, kind of do a special just with Mike Benz for at least B, C and D blocks.
I am going to tee off a bit on the cold open we just played for you.
That's everything going down in Minneapolis across the state, all things ICE, all things DHS, CBP commissioner, you name it.
I think what you're seeing there, we can call it the phalanx of fraud.
We like the Praetorian Guard analogy here too in the war room.
But what you're seeing, I think, is a defense line form, essentially.
So you cannot get to the heart of what we are really probing in Minnesota.
It's not about the authority or the rights of Border Patrol officials, ICE agents, law enforcement, take your pick.
It's about the systemic fraud, not just that happened there, but that was pushed and urged on, turned a blind eye, if not outright incentivized, by the elected leaders there of the Democrat Party on the state level, the local level, but most importantly, the national level.
I mean, let it sink in.
Tim Waltz, how wild is it that a VP candidate, not that long ago, in a very alternate universe, he could be sitting in the White House right now.
Not only is he dropped out of the race, but his state is in complete and utter disarray over something that is really not all that radical, really a foundational issue of this country, sovereignty, border security.
The idea that our tax dollars should not be subsidizing a bunch of third-rate foreigners who hate this country, are Islamic extremists.
That's being euphemistic and have no respect for this country.
And when they think about what it means to be American, that means how many government subsidies and programs can I get enrolled in so I can, I don't know, live off the welfare state.
That's their definition of what being an American means to them.
And I think it's quite telling for those of you who are maybe a little skeptical about the fraud, the large, vast swaths of it going down in Minnesota.
All the proof you need is the response that you're seeing.
I think they sometimes like to call it an antibody, right?
That's the resistance to the fraud.
Although I think what we're seeing is more of a full-blown, outright virus, if you disease, if you look at some of these people protesting.
I'm not sure.
Maybe it's a mix of tetanus and HIV or monkeypox.
But I want to drill down, you know, here in the war room, we really pay attention to words and language and rhetoric.
And something that we're hearing a lot, and we're going to play some more clips, is really focusing in on this concept of community, community, community.
And I wanted to juxtapose Tim Waltz's words before the alleged attempt to basically kill an ICE agent with a vehicle.
Obviously, that lady was killed.
She died.
Then you see Tim Waltz going on Twitter doing the whole casual video talking about how, oh, we need to have a moment of silence for the community, the community, and all the kind of Democrat members of Congress are really towing the line on that one.
And I think that that's very telling because what they're trying to signal, not just because they're community organizers and community activists, but it's that you, whether you're a hardworking tax dollar paying, tax-paying American citizen, a member of this audience, a member of MAGA, you are not part of their community.
And they have perverted that word probably more than they have, transgenderism or free and fair elections or election integrity.
But they are making it very clear that community does not include Customs and Border Patrol.
It does not include MAGA.
It does not include you if you think that America deserves to have a border.
And even through legal immigration pathways, this country should not be continued to be exploited and pillaged at the hands of third world foreigners.
That's not radical.
I think that's what the founding of this country was about.
And let me just say that this is a reminder to the weak Republicans who every like week or so feel the need to tell us that we need to seek unity, right?
That's their favorite word, unity.
These are the people that they're telling us to seek unity with.
And I don't know about you guys, but I want no unity with people who are as deranged as the clips that I just played.
Right, the modern left, the progressive left, what you're seeing, they inherently treat protest and disruption as some sort of moral good, which really doesn't make sense at face value, but that's how you see them now justifying the most outlandish things, whether it's states' rights, the ideas that these states can do what they want.
I think I remember that in history.
I don't think the Democrat Party is necessarily on the side of that contextually, but more importantly, you also see them endorsing things like Second Amendment rights.
Remember when they're saying that they should fire on the investigative reporter Nick Shirley for showing up to these Somali daycare centers?
It's a complete inversion of their whole worldview because the only thing that they care about is creating chaos.
And it's quite, I think, in the Linskyite projection that they got going on there, tying it back to community organizing, where they're essentially accusing these ICE agents of basically what they are guilty of, whether it's the Somalians, the left-wing NGOs, right?
Oh, these people are showing up.
They won't reveal their true identities and they're misusing funds.
They're misusing resources.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly why they were sent because there's a bunch of foreigners who are doing that using your taxpayer dollars to scam you out of, I think, billions of dollars more than the entirety of Somalia's GDP.
And that's a generous, that's still even with all the World Bank money flowing in.
Anyways, I think it's time that Tim Waltz issues his formal retraction of calling what us Republicans were the weird one.
I think weird ones, if we're the weird ones, then I think I don't want to be normal because your state is in complete and utter disarray.
And we're going to, like I said, we're going to play more clips.
You can see from North Carolina to New York to all around and across the country, this is metastasizing.
Hopefully it's not a Fort Sumter moment, but you never know with the state of the modern left.
I think we got Mike Benz.
Mike, I rambled enough.
I want to bring you on.
It's been a while since we've had you on.
We've only got a few minutes, but I just want sort of your top line assessment before we get really granular, because I know that's what the audience wants of everything that we're seeing go down in Minneapolis right now.
Well, it's a kind of deflated winter-suppressed attempt to recreate George Floyd 2.0.
I think the cold weather and maybe lack of a protected identity group status about this makes it less of a hotbed.
I don't think it'll reach anywhere near the George Floyd levels of things, but this is there they need to keep this and we talked about it a million times, but this kind of people-powered color revolution, people on the streets force hungry, enthusiastic, and active.
It's almost like deploying troops somewhere to keep the troops in ready position so that when the hot summer approaches, they're warmed up and good to go.
This, I think, is effectively what we're seeing in once again, Minnesota.
This is the same Minnesota that kicked off the George Floyd riots.
But the tape that came out today about the car hitting, which I think was the opening clip that you played in that montage, hitting the officer, ending once and for all with incontrovertible smoking gun evidence that she had indeed effectively tried to run him over.
You could hear the thudding, the whacking sound of the car actually hitting the officer and his looking like his body camera having to jerk away because of him being hit.
But effectively, this is the equivalent of if the actual police report had been made public about George Floyd in the early days of things before the I can't breathe narrative was allowed to saturate for what was effectively five months and no revelations about the fentanyl overdose.
But they will continue to try this and sit up Maz parallel kind of chaz, but we need to go after these networks.
I mean, in political science terms, there's what's called the 3.5% rule, which is that if you look at authoritarian regimes of various kinds all over the world over the last like century,
once you have 3.5% of a population protesting nonviolently against a dictator or an authoritarian, that is essentially an unstoppable force that they can't oppose and that precludes them from consolidating dictatorial 3.5%.
3.5%.
It's not that much larger a number than what we're already seeing in the streets against Trump.
You're back in the war room, where 3.5% is a very important number in figure.
Let that sink in.
That's, of course, Matt Out, you know, the political theorist.
Well, I would just remind her humbly of who is it, Max Weber, talking about the monopoly on the legitimate use of force that does not rest with crazy rogue, as Steve says, Karen leftists driving cars or freaky liberal protesters or Somalians trying to kill ICE officers, shoot them, do whatever.
It rests with the state.
Just my two cents.
Mike Benz, I want to bring you back in where we left off, sort of looking at this through the lens of that 3.5%, which I think squares kind of nicely with what you were talking about, the sort of ready reserve status of the left-wing color revolution extraordinaires.
What else do you think our audience needs to know about what's going on in Minneapolis?
While you're playing that segment, I kept looking over to my kitchen and thinking if I had time to grab a spoon, I wanted to get, oh, there's a shoehorn here.
I want to gag myself.
Political scientist, Rachel Maddow, didn't come up with that.
That was conceived in the literal color revolution studies.
I mean, they call it democratization studies, and it's a subfield of political science, sociology, psychology, international relations.
This is essentially the color revolution theoretician number that they always constantly cite.
Science has empirically validated that if you can mobilize 3.5% of the population into the streets, it's the magic number that makes a tipping point that makes it impossible for police and security services to contain the protests.
And so the president, the democratically elected president, is forced to flee in a helicopter to a non-extradition country so that we can install a tinpot dictator of our own who will serve our own donors and corporate interests.
It's nauseating.
It's hilarious.
The FBI designated the three percenters effectively a kind of domestic terrorist group, the right-wing group, who cited the 3% of the population who stood up to the British folks.
And they openly tout this 3.5%.
And there's no FBI watch list for Rachel Maddow.
But the fact is, what they're talking about is toppling a government.
I mean, what you just heard her refer to is that the protests will be too big to contain.
The government will have to step aside if we can simply, I mean, this is what we see playing out right now.
And this is what makes it dirty: is that Republicans love this 3.5%.
There's a bipartisan consensus on it, even though we, you know, conservatives tend to chafe when Democrats use this, especially at home.
The fact is, is Lindsey Graham is champing it the bit for a 3.5% in Venezuela and in Iran.
And as dictatorial as those countries' leaders may be, the fact is, is this is our stock and trade technique.
If a government we don't like will not willingly give us power, we seek to put 3.5% of the population on NGO payroll or on dark money payroll or on drug money payroll,
as we tried to do in Afghanistan, in Iraq, and Syria, in order to make sure that they are sufficiently beholden to us that they have an incentive to take to the streets to get more money.
And you see the same sort of riot for hired networks at play in Minnesota.
We saw them in Seattle and Portland.
This is one of the main organizers here is Indivisible, which got $7 million at least in 2023 money, which was an off year.
That was just their latest Form 990 from George Soros's Open Society Foundation, which is a very popular rent-a-riot organizer for CIA and State Department.
3.5% protests abroad.
But it's, you know, they're trying to make Fetch happen.
The fact is, it's cold.
It's isolated just Minneapolis.
The facts of the case here are very weak.
But the plan is as the summer approaches and as the 2026 midterms approach, the attempt to, when you listen to these people, because this 3.5% number was really touted by Maria Stefan and Erika Chenoweth at the U.S. Institute of Peace, which is a famous drug-running, gun-running CIA cutout.
It's literally in their charter for that the CIA has carte blanche to enter the premises and collaborate.
It's supported by the wall of donors on the wall is Raytheon, Boeing, Lockheed, Martin, and a bunch of oil companies.
Erika Chenoweth is out of the Harvard Belfer Center and the successor to the Harvard CIA.
It was called the Harvard Center for International Affairs, a cheeky play on CIA where it was caught doing CIA work directly in the 1970s and 80s and then rebranded to the, I think, CSIA, Center for Science and International Affairs.
You put that in there, it sort of blunts it.
But they're a rent-a-riot theoretician group and incubator.
They bring riot leader, riot coordinators from foreign countries to the Harvard Belfer Center and the Harvard Candy School where Erica Chenoweth is to train them on how to start, how to kickstart a revolution in your country in Belarus, in Moscow, in Venezuela, in Ukraine ahead of 2014.
So these are professionals.
These are professional folks who are paid their entire career, usually directly, but often even indirectly through pass-through grants and subgrants by the U.S. taxpayer to so-called serve American interests by overthrowing foreign countries and installing what are supposed to be American corporations,
but often end up being British, Canadian, Spanish, Saudi, Pakistani, and other corporate firms that are allied to exploit foreign resources.
But here they want to exploit the treasury so that they can all pay themselves.
This is what they were doing with John Podesta's $375 billion climate scam.
This is what the EPA was doing with $92 billion in last-minute payoffs to their own friends out of the U.S. Treasury to NGOs.
And it's something that I hope the Trump administration has learned a lesson from during the first time around.
The thing I'd stress about this is going after the, it is perfectly lawful to do a genuinely peaceful protest.
In fact, it is our First Amendment right.
We don't just have a freedom of freedom of speech in the First Amendment.
We have a freedom of assembly to be able to peacefully protest.
But when you are hitting police officers with your car, when you are burning down police precincts as they did in Minneapolis in 2020, or throwing Molotov cocktails in police cars as they did in New York during those prior protests, and I think more interestingly for this Justice Department is the concept of blocking roads.
In that very video, you notice in that montage, you'll see that they were organized blocking of major city intersections, which is a tried and true technique in order to induce a standoff to create a martyr.
In fact, you can hear Maria Stefan, the counter of this 3.5% figure, I think even co-wrote a book about the 3.5% figure, where she on U.S. government payroll from the U.S. Institute of Peace actually gave a training manual for how to organize people to block roads.
Well, that may be useful for the CIA to do in a foreign country to destabilize it and force a showdown with the police, but that's a felony to do in the United States of America.
And the idea that what I don't like from this Justice Department's current attempt to try to go after this is I think when you see organized blocking of roads, what I think you need to do is interrogate the organizers about premeditated road closures.
And once you have a insider manual, go to Indivisible, go to Move On, go to the SEIU or the AFL-CIO or to the Immigrant Defense Force, which is this collection of 100 NGOs in Minnesota around this.
And the moment you get the training guides that show premeditated intent to block roads, you have a mass felony arrest.
Certainly Erica Chenoweth, we've done a lot of reporting on her.
Her resume reads like a rap sheet.
It's all about violence and trying to topple regimes.
They say President Trump is guilty of that.
We'll be right back after this short break.
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You're back in the war room.
We still got Mike Benz with us.
Mike, okay, we're going to do this, which is usually how the blocks end up shaping, which is I ask you a question and then you talk for the majority of it, which is the best, is what the audience wants.
But I have two sort of questions.
One, sort of walk us through the inverse of this.
In other words, not just the U.S. money flowing outward, but how that money then flows back inwards.
In other words, why is there even a Somali essentially colony?
It seems like a penal colony at this point in Minnesota, right?
Like, why are there these kinds of refugee populations?
I know you've done a lot of reporting on this.
It sort of gives them inroads back home, but that first and foremost, and then also, if you have time, your thoughts on everything going down, sort of in the same way you were talking about assessing what is going on in Venezuela and Iran.
So, what you see with refugee concentrations is they typically come here.
I mean, you've had this political patronage system of ethnic immigration and then mixed into local politics since the days of Tammany Hall in the early 1800s with the Irish in New York City, where you had, you know, effectively, you know, this boss tweed political apparatus that would import the Irish into New York City and then give them fake no-show jobs,
basically big piles of free money using fraud and scams and marked up city contracts, you know, a million dollars for lawn chairs type thing.
And then they would then rally the Irish to vote Democrat in New York City.
This has been going on with pretty much every immigrant group's first arrival into the United States in some form.
But what really started to happen during the Cold War was you began to have city-specific ethnic enclaves develop through immigrant and refugee programs attached to CIA and military activity in their home region,
where we import vast sums of the population of a country that's undergoing a civil war as part of the effort to tilt that civil war in the U.S. military and CIA's favor.
And this is because those refugee populations, often endangered by local police or rival gangs, are much more useful, protected, and made rich here in America,
where they can then disperse money to their at-home, lower-level grunts, as well as huge, huge remittance payments back to the home country in order to essentially serve as an alternate U.S. aid to fund the specific side of the civil war that the U.S. military and CIA want to win.
This is in part why Miami is disproportionately Cuban.
25% of Miami Dade is Cuban.
And this was because of the CIA importing huge amounts of the Cuban community in an attempt to create a shadow government, a government in exile, and a diaspora network that could champion the cause for Cuban liberty.
We saw the same thing happen in Minneapolis and in neighboring in Columbus, Ohio, in part because of the significant role that U.S. Air Force bases played during the outbreak of the Somali Civil War in 1991.
Somalia was backed from the late 1960s until 1991 by a CIA-backed government.
Somalia is more oil than Iraq.
It's got huge amounts of minerals and it sits near a very important choke point for global trade along the effectively the whole strait that leads into the Persian Gulf.
And so what you have is in 1991, when the CIA, U.S. government-backed government in Somalia fell and a civil war broke out and there was a big power vacuum for two decades, effectively, Somalia had no government at all, actually no central government.
What it had was effectively a remittance system and then a proxy battle between different great powers backing different Somali warlord factions.
And it was exactly at that moment that mass immigration from Somalia to the United States started, principally in Minneapolis and in Columbus, Ohio, which both had, again, as I mentioned, this substantial U.S. military vectors to Somalia.
An interesting one in Columbus, Ohio, for example, where people are finding what appears to be equivalent level frauds in Minneapolis.
Columbus, Ohio is a particularly interesting example because the Rickenbacher Air Force base was used as the launch point for logistics to Somalia when George H.W. Bush in 1992, December 1992, announced that the U.S. would begin a U.S. military ground presence in Somalia.
Now, nominally, this started with USAID.
This was the reason the Trump administration is still involved in Somalia.
We just bombed Somalia last night.
We're said to be at war with al-Shabaab in Somalia, which is essentially a rival, well, a semi-rival faction.
It's actually kind of complicated, but we're fighting for mineral rights and control over mines and trade in port areas.
And there are rival warlord factions.
So nominally, we have our special forces out there carrying out assassinations of those warlords.
But how did we get dragged into this?
Why are we in Somalia?
Well, it started with George H.W. Bush in Columbus, Ohio, the second largest population of Somali Americans now, had no Somali Americans effectively at all until 1992.
But as soon as the U.S. military began launching operations from there, we imported masses of the leadership of the Somali warlord tribes that we were backing in order to enrich them.
And I think this is part of the reason the FBI looks the other way.
Law enforcement looks the other way because this fraud ends up capacity building U.S. military and CIA activities.
This is the same reason that the CIA allowed drug running.
Not just that, but actually built up drug running in Afghanistan, in Colombia, in Venezuela.
This is now seeing the blowback of this right now, frankly, in the charges against Maduro.
The original 2020 indictment was listed the cartel of the Sons 32 times and framed Nicolas Maduro, president of Venezuela, as being the leader of the Cartel of the Sons.
Well, in the revised indictment issued just six days ago, they've eliminated the references.
There's only two references in the superseding indictment, and they don't mention him as a leader of it at all.
Now, a big part of this is because the cartel of the sons was created by the CIA in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
It was created by General Ramon, who was the head of the Venezuelan military intelligence, who was a sanctioned CIA asset, a paid on the literal on the CIA payroll.
And the CIA was busted.
In fact, the drug enforcement agency, the DEA chief, actually resigned when the CIA authorized through the head of the cartel of the Sons, this General Ramon, the shipment of 1,500 kilograms of cocaine to the streets of Miami to be sold for the proceeds to support U.S.-backed,
to buy U.S.-backed arms in the neighboring conflict zones in Latin America.
But this was a case where you had, at the very least, the CIA greenlighting it, greenlighting what is an international crime, the very crime they're charging Maduro with.
But I suspect that many of these NGOs are training the Somali immigrant population on how to do these scams, how to exploit the system for doing it.
Many of these NGOs are directly on U.S. State Department payroll, the State Department, which the very State Department that the CIA serves.
And so I think that the more scam money is produced, the more money you have for the American war in Somalia.
And so it's very difficult to tamp down on this fraud without running into weird corners of the blob of the bureaucracy within the U.S. federal government,
because cracking down on this fraud means cracking down on what is essentially pass-through money in many respects to support a covert military campaign that benefits many of the both Democrat and Republican donors in the oil industry, in the metals and mining industry.
And so as much as you might want to crack down the fraud, it's the same reason we never crack down on the drugs.
This is not the first attempt to topple the Iranian regime through a people-powered revolution.
It is likely not the last, but we are seeing we're seeing breakthroughs, I guess as they would say, in ways that past violent protests did not have the energy for.
This is one of these complicated factors.
I think that it is in the U.S. interest, for example, to take the oil in Venezuela.
Venezuela is the largest oil reserves on planet Earth, even more than Saudi Arabia.
Venezuela has more gold than every mine in Africa combined.
Iran itself, I think, has the world's third largest reserves of oil and fourth largest reserves of natural gas.
It is like Venezuela, one of the most bountiful plots of dirt on all of planet Earth.
And if both Venezuela and Iran can be effectively regime changed, I don't want to say within a week because it's going to take a very long time.
I don't know whether to call what's happening in Venezuela full regime change at this point because it's a weird combination.
It's not a military coup and it's not a color revolution.
It's kind of a, we've kind of put what appears to be, I don't want to say an asset, but a more pliable negotiating partner in the form of Delcy Rodriguez in power through this.
But in Iran, the level of covert action here is going to be through the roof.
Well, the Iran situation is going to have months-long fallout.
I think the enervated energy pumping into Iran with these protests is going to, even if they don't result in substantial change to the Iranian government at present, it will effectively reveal networks city by city in Iran that can be capacity built through U.S. government and allied government supports.
And so I think that you can expect to see new fresh rounds of sanctions and kind of military encirclement, if not outright military strikes in conjunction with the protests to try to effectuate the toppling of the government.
And I think that, you know, this is one of these things where interest versus ethics are kind of the main pivot point here.
I think what we're seeing in Venezuela and Iran are things that a regime change would undoubtedly be in U.S. interests.
The question is, are the ethics of the tactics used the sort of thing that the means can justify the ends, so to speak.
And we will see on all that.
But in the meantime, you can follow all my work and coverage of this on X at MikeBenCyber.
Also on YouTube and Rumble, I post long-form videos.
Looks like she was a mom of three and had every right to go see her kids last night.
And instead, she's dead.
And of course, this is what would happen when you have a president who surges his thugs into our communities, masked, unidentified.
And I guess you're lucky now if all that happens is you're thrown in the back of a van or you're dragged by your hair through the streets because now they're just shooting people in the face and bodies are piling up.
And we have to do something about it.
We're not helpless.
None of us are helpless.
We have to strip these guys of their immunity that makes them feel like they're invincible.
We have to ban masks and require them to show their faces.
And we have to make sure they're prosecuted locally.
Otherwise, they're going to just roam around terrorizing people, terrorizing women, terrorizing moms.
And no one with a mom or a wife or a daughter should have to think about that.
And no woman should have to go through that.
So, yes, to ICE, my message is stay the out of California.
I think that's the message that every leader has to deliver across the country because we're better than them.
We're going to get through this and there's going to be good on the other side.
But right now, we need leadership and we need to go on offense.