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This evening, the city of Portland, Oregon reported that two people were shot and wounded by Border Patrol agents there, according to the Department of Homeland Security.
They released a statement claiming in part, quote, the passenger of the vehicle and target is a Venezuelan illegal alien affiliated with the transitional Trende Aragua prostitution ring and involved in a recent shooting in Portland.
When agents identified themselves to the vehicle occupants, the driver weaponized his vehicle and attempted to run over law enforcement agents.
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Sir Dunphy right now, can you please tell us a little bit about what your reaction is to the news?
I'm absolutely furious and heartbroken right now.
I'm needing to stop what I'm doing here and rush out to my district because it was heartbreaking enough to see what is happening in a different city to know that this was coming to our community and that one of my neighbors in my district is two of my neighbors in my district are now sitting in a hospital bed and hopefully are going to be making it home.
But this is not the kind of community that not the kind of reaction from the federal government that we should be having.
The struggle is already real for immigrants and refugees who live in our community, in our neighborhoods.
And now I have to go home and tell my son and my three grandkids that they cannot stop for law enforcement because they're going to be afraid by looking at law enforcement that they might have the same thing happen to them that happened today.
That is so unconscionable that just a day later, what happened in Minneapolis happening right here in Portland.
The use of these forces, the way they're being trained, the way they're masked, the way they drive in unmarked cars, this is not a normal police force and it's functioning much more like the way a paramilitary force functions in a dictatorship.
And I think Americans should begin to look at it like that.
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Well, we know that their presence is not welcome and the way that they're attempting to be law enforcement.
We don't believe that it is law enforcement.
We believe it is state-sponsored terrorism.
And so we've made several calls over and over and over again for the president to stop sending wounds to Portland and to leave us alone.
No, and I think the speed with which they lied about the events in Minneapolis, particularly coming just a day after they changed government websites to lie about what happened on January 6th, was genuinely chilling.
And once again, it's proof that the purpose of these actions isn't what they say it is.
It's not about fixing our border.
It's not about maintaining the law.
It's about exerting a form of power.
And then the question is how they might use this down the line.
Will they use it to intimidate people during midterm elections, for example?
Yeah, four of my colleagues were in there and they asked him about this.
And I think that answer was very striking and very important.
I think in some ways it defines this second term of Trump's presidency.
He's talking about internationally, of course, but I think even at home we have seen the assertion of power without check in some instances and a lack of belief in checks in other instances that has shaped the presidency in a way we have not seen.
Now, Ann knows better than I do how this is seen overseas.
But Ann, I'm kind of curious, you're an expert on autocracy.
You've written books about this.
You've spent time in some of these places.
How do Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping look at comments like that by President Trump?
How do they look at what he is doing here in terms of what it means for what they can do in their neighborhoods?
It's Friday, 9 January in the year of our Lord, 2025.
We are in the greater Dallas Metroplex, Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex area day, huge event tonight.
We're going to have guests on throughout the day, throughout the morning, to talk about this.
Right there, the reason these cold opens, I think, are so informative to our audience, and I realize you guys hate most of them, is that you get to see the shaping of the narrative from our opposition.
And our opposition are people that hate this country.
You see all the mainstream media, Morning Joe, New York Times.
Remember, every one of these people were all cheerleading Biden.
First of all, they were all in on the big steal, number one.
Number two, they were all cheerleading Biden as Biden's government in cahoots with these people allowed 20 million illegal aliens into our country over four years.
The process of getting our sovereignty back and the process of repelling the invasion is what they're fighting every now.
Trump's an autocrat.
He's doing this.
Trump's the worst.
Look what they're doing.
They are stirring up resistance to the removal of illegal alien invaders.
Say, well, people haven't been here.
They haven't done any crimes.
It was a crime coming into the country without authorization.
They all have to go.
Not just the bad ombres and the criminals.
All invaders have to go.
We either have a country or we don't.
We're either sovereign or we're not.
And they're going to put up everything.
They were getting there.
Now they're trying to, you know, dox ICE officers.
They're trying to stop everything and say Trump's a dictator.
Hey, suck on this.
Chrissy Noam, I think, surged 2,000 more ICE officers into Minneapolis.
Let's just get it on now.
It's no need to kick the can down the road.
There's no compromise here.
They're all going to go.
And if you don't like it, we'll ship you out too.
This is what's happening in New York City, which I told you the Ugandan Marxist jihadists are stirring it up, saying it's murder in the streets last night in New York.
I think every bit maybe even more dangerous than Minnesota and Portland.
Jack Pesobic, D. Jack Pesovic, is in Minneapolis right now.
We know that Antifa is pouring into Minneapolis area, pouring into Portland, pouring into New York.
This weekend should be, I think, pretty wild as this resistance goes next level to basically try to thwart President Trump's removal of the illegal alien invaders, sir.
I'm here just outside of the federal Whipple building, the site of numerous riots and protests yesterday here this morning.
It's a cold morning here in Minneapolis.
I'll turn around so you guys can see a little bit.
There are a few protesters out still very early in the day.
What we do see behind me, though, as well, are these barricades that are finally being put up by, it looks by workers working with the federal government to put this up to try to set up some kind of security for officers because this is the building where ICE conducts operations.
This is their operational command center here on the ground in Minneapolis.
This is where Bovino works out of.
This is where a number of people work out of.
So they're trying to, this is where the activists will come in their convoys in the morning and they will follow the ICE officers and Customs Border Patrol, CBP, and other federal agents that they're working together with in an interagency cooperation because they are attempting to use these operations to stage the provocations like we saw with the woman there, the driver up just a couple of days ago.
Steve, these anti-ICE organizations, we're now learning more about them.
They are the same leftist organizations, Antifa-style organizations that they've always been.
They are trained.
They are planned.
They are orchestrated.
They are funded.
They want to conduct these types of provocations because they want to create a political situation to, as exactly as you said, and the war room audience understands, the warroom posse understands, they want to deflect the sovereignty of the United States of America to protect the illegal aliens that were brought here under Joe Biden.
These officers of the federal government have a duty to the Constitution and to the laws and the sovereignty of this nation to remove the illegal invaders from our midst.
Now, we heard about the two up in Portland yesterday where they were, apparently two were shot.
They were members of Trende Aragua.
One was the pimp and one was the prostitute is what we're starting to hear.
They were picked up.
There was a human trafficking organization.
These are the types of people that ICE is going after right now.
And those are the types of people that these agitators and these provocateurs are defending.
And what they're doing, Steve, they want the Facebook moms.
They want to radicalize Facebook moms and blonde-haired, blue-eyed Facebook moms because they want to create false martyrs, fake martyrs, to be able to put all over TV and say, look what ICE did.
Look what ICE did.
And I can see there are more protesters showing up behind me just as we speak.
Jack, so if my crack production team can pull it off a getter, the New York Post has an exclusive investigation.
And they've come out this morning and said, hey, this entire thing, the entire resistance movement of which that woman was part of, but what Mamdani's calling for in the streets of New York, what's happening in Portland and particularly in Minneapolis is all financed and supported by Soros' financial support of Indivisible and also Now CARE, the terrorist organization that's been designated.
The New York Post has an exclusive story that's saying the resistance to ICE, the resistance to the removal of the illegal alien invaders is because of Soros slash Indivisible and CARE.
This is the same Green Red Alliance that we've been tracking here for years.
Wrote multiple books about this, Unhumans, D Antifa.
And we understand that these are the well-funded networks that work hand in glove with Democrat Party, with Democrat interests, because they are the shock troops of the revolution, the shock troops of the rebellion.
Oh, look, by the way, right behind me, these are ICE officers just showing up for work.
See, they're just showing up for work and they're harassing workers as they come in.
Of course.
This is what they're doing.
So this is going on right behind us as we speak.
These guys, they're just coming in for work.
They're showing up to their jobs and they're trying to harass them as they are out in the field.
And they are coming out, Steve.
Many of them are, as you can see, getting very agitated potentially.
We have a ton of folks coming on talk about the end of Sharia law here in Texas, which is going to start on March 3rd with this primary.
We are packed today.
I want to go back to Minneapolis.
First off, Jack, as I've told you and lectured you behind the scenes for years, you're too valuable an asset now to be doing what you used to do in your rise to prominence and fame.
And that's getting the middle of these Antifa fights where you're duking it out with them.
How dangerous is it getting even at nine o'clock in the morning and a bitterly cold morning in Minneapolis?
I want to thank the team in Denver and my own team, the war room, because you see officials.
You see Fry, the mayor of Minneapolis.
You see Waltz, the governor.
Waltz is calling out his National Guard to fight the ICE people.
You see it in the professionals and the politicians in Portland saying how dangerous it is for ICE to do their jobs.
You hear it in Mamdani, who called ICE murderers and stirred it up last night.
You have the Democrats just right now have said we're going to have a government shutdown on the 20th because they're not prepared to approve the appropriations bill of ICE for DHS that includes ICE because their business model is based upon Mamdani is the mayor of New York City.
Waltz and Fry are the governor and mayor of Minneapolis because of all these illegal aliens here voting and recent migrants get in here with all these scam programs who, by the way, they're not Americans.
It's going to come with some scam program.
They're not Americans.
No way.
Sorry, not sorry.
You have it stirred up, Jack.
That's where you're going to get, you're going to have more provocations.
You're going to have more violence.
These people are Bolsheviks.
It's the Red-Green Alliance.
It's the Bolsheviks with radical Islam, right?
And they think they're going to take over the country.
That's where we got to take a stand now.
We got to take a stand now.
We got to lance the boy.
Lance the boy.
I mean, start Waltz.
Why is Waltz not under arrest?
Why is Fry not under arrest?
Why is Mamdani not under arrest?
Roll them up.
Hey, you know, Ann Applebaum wants to think about autocracy.
Let's give a tour.
We got to defend this country.
We have to defend this republic.
It's nine o'clock in the morning and they're already starting.
And you know, this weekend, you, because you know, the intel of Antifa, you follow it.
They're all pouring into New York City.
They're pouring into Minneapolis.
They're pouring into Portland.
And they're going to challenge.
They're going to challenge law and order in the United States.
And particularly the fact they're trying to slow down the process and make it so uncomfortable that we can't deport mass deportations of illegal aliens.
They all have to go, all of them.
And they're trying to make it so uncomfortable and so problematic and so tough that the suburban moms out there just go, oh, well, I don't know.
And we're just holding the camera here as you see the ICE officers, but also other comrades are showing up.
So it's a car by car basis.
Some people go by.
You see the barricades over here.
The cranes are working overnight to put out these barricades, but the Bolsheviks are there.
And Steve, they're radicalizing the moms out in the suburbs, out in Middle America.
Think about these two women who showed up yesterday.
One is dead.
One, by the way, I would argue is complicit in the killing.
is complicit in the killing of Renee Goode, is complicit in the death, by the way, because she says, I urged her to come here.
I wanted her to come here.
This was a planned operation under the felony murder rule.
You are also liable for that death.
There's no question about it.
She should be brought up on federal charges.
But Steve, they've radicalized massive swaths of this country.
We wrote about it last year in unhumans, and you're seeing it now play out where people are scratching their heads saying, how could it be?
How could it be that some mom from middle America with a couple of kids is ramming an ICE agent the same way that you would see ISIS, an ISIS radical running over people?
This is how bad the radicalization has become.
These groups like Indivisible, the anti-ICE groups, ICE Watch, these Facebook pages that they're all using, CARE, and all the money behind them.
They're designed to create false information chambers for these people to give them a false view of the world.
Jack, and Indivisible, the New York Post story, I want everybody to read.
The block of the road, people are showing up.
They can punch it out.
Can we get the one I put up?
Not the one you've pulled off the internet.
I want the one with the big photo.
Thank you.
Just pull that, Denver.
Just go to my getter.
The exclusive investigator report shows CARE, a terrorist organization, designated terrorist organization in the state of Texas and in Florida and by the federal government.
Well, I guess the federal government's not there yet, although we should get there.
They've already designated the Muslim Brotherhood, which is in Bakit Care.
Jack, take a minute.
You did Unhumans, War Room book, New York Times bestseller a couple of years ago, because your theory was, hey, the Red-Green Alliance is nothing but the Bolsheviks.
You went back to the French Revolution, the Chinese Revolution, the Bolshevik Revolution.
Just give us what we should look for here, because this is no different than the Bolsheviks and the Chinese Communist Party when they took to the streets to try to take power back.
And they love the fact that they're bringing in people here to cause social disorder and bankrupt the nation.
The Clivin, the Coward Piven strategy that came out of Columbia in the 1960s.
Steve, well, remember, what was one of the Jacobin slogans?
So go back to Unhumans.
And if you did your Unhumans work and you did your reading, you would know that one of the unhuman slogans of the Jacobins in the French Revolution was, of course, no kings, no kings, no lords.
So we see that same phrase, no kings, which you also know that no kings protest, the massive operation that was done nationwide was paid and funded, but using those Jacobin slogans was the same group that is behind many of the protests and many of the riots that you're now seeing break out in these anti-ICE groups.
They change the names around, but it's always the same people doing it.
They use these euphemisms like, oh, we're just ICE watchers.
We're just legal observers.
You're not a legal observer when you're blocking the road.
You can see them doing it right here.
You're not legal observers when you're blocking the road.
You are committing crimes.
You're committing crimes.
You're creating illegal blockades with your body, with your car while you're doing that.
You are breaking the law and you should be arrested or at least detained for doing so and obviously cleared out of the way.
Steve, we understand that what they're doing is they're using what we call the coalitions of the fringes.
They get these fringe groups together, whether it's an Islamist, whether it's a Bolshevik, whether it's Gen Z, whether it's one of these Mamdani supporters, recent migrant, they don't care.
They want to increase the numbers of those because it increases the numbers of the fringes.
And then they collect them together and they throw them against society itself.
They throw them against all of society.
And by the way, who's Maduro in jail with, sitting right next to right now?
Luigi Maggioni.
Luigi Maggioni is one of their greatest, their greatest examples of someone they were able to radicalize to the point where he wasn't out there just holding a sign.
He was out there holding a gun and he put two in the back of the head to a white man father businessman.
And they're using the transgender because look at half of these people.
You saw the two beauties, the two lesbians, right?
The one wife or husband, however they calculate it, was the one that got shot in the head.
The other one was actually, she was more radical.
She said, hey, I kind of radicalized her and made her part of the resistance, made her part of, you know, interested in this ICE resistance.
In fact, there was a school, a charter school, I think, that the victim's six-year-old or the perpetrator's six-year-old child went to that school said, hey, on social, being a social justice warrior, we'll teach you how to resist.
Bottom line, President Trump and DHS are tripled down on this right now.
We all start rolling up more people.
They are starting getting the financiers.
The Source Operation, boom, roll them up.
Mandami, roll him up.
Boom, Fry, roll him up.
They're instigating it.
They're instigating violence against federal officials trying to do their job and get out mass deportations of illegal alien invaders.
Jack, we're going to let you go because I know you want to get down closer to the action.
Where do people get on humans?
Where they get all your, you're going to do the show from there today.
I know you're also with Scott Besson, I think, later today.
And I want people to know, because we'll be up at Jack Posobiec.
And that's right.
So this afternoon, we are going to be conducting a sit-down interview with Scott Besson all about the new massive investigations into the fraud that he is personally conducting here in Minneapolis, the Somalis, breaking news out of last night, saying that if you are on, if you're on federal assistance, you will no longer be allowed to send any money out of the country.
So stay tuned.
Human Events Daily, 2 p.m. today.
Secretary of Treasury Scott Besson will be sitting down with us.
We'll be here and we'll be popping up throughout the day.
Okay, folks, we're going to return to Minneapolis in a moment.
One of those great turning points, one of those great turning point reporters, the Savannah Hernandez crew, who are always going in harm's way.
Overnight, the president gave an interview to the New York Times.
I think he gave one to Hannity.
Also, he's saying, hey, we're going to go into, I'm thinking about kinetic activity with the cartels in Mexico.
Talked about a lot more about what he's doing on hemispheric defense.
You should know we seized the fifth of the what they call the ghost fleet.
These illegal vessels, who knows who they're chartered under.
This one, I think, had a Russian flag.
The special forces seized the fifth in the Caribbean this morning.
And President Trump's saying, Hey, you're not going to be able to ship.
You know, in the old days, we go to courts and we're not doing that.
We're just going to seize the vessels.
This is what we want.
This is the type of action we want.
Let's do it up in Minneapolis.
Let's roll up Mamdani today.
Let's check those naturalization papers.
We can denaturalize him and put him on a plane lane and go back to Uganda.
He was born there.
He can stir up all the crap he wants to over his home, his native country.
We're going to get to this.
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Talking about that, let's go to Minneapolis.
Julio Ruiz joins us.
So, Julio, number one, why are you out there?
I know you want to, Savannah Hernandez's crew, she's always in harm's way.
Well, this is just basically a continuation of what happened here in Minneapolis in 2020, right?
Which is where the far left is organizing over perceived police misconduct to cause mayhem.
And I think that it's quite stark that this is happening in January.
I mean, that's how fired up these people are.
And this has been building ever since President Trump came back into office.
So you have this controversial shooting where this ICE officer shoots in self-defense because he's getting hit with a car.
And that's not what the left is seeing.
And they're seeing something completely different.
And so I fully expect that myself, people like Savannah and the rest of the frontlines crew, we're going to be busy this year because the left, from the very local level here in Minneapolis all the way to the national level, they're trying to activate their street activists to get out there in the streets to cause mayhem.
And it'll be a lot easier for them to do that once it becomes warmer in the spring and summer.
I mean, just yesterday, I was hearing some of the protesters at the federal building that Jack's currently at.
There was these white women being like, shoot me next.
I'm a mother.
I have children.
Shoot me next.
And so they really just live in an alternate reality.
That's not surprising.
Obviously, this is not the most recent example.
There's many examples of that.
But yeah, I mean, you know, just as much as anybody, you know, people really thought that they were done with Trump after 2021.
They thought that he's out of office.
We're going to get him on all these charges.
And we'll be finally turned the page on him.
But not only is he back in office, back in a position of power, but he's going full steam ahead with his campaign promises.
And that is what is really getting people very, very angry.
And so thankfully, you know, these situations can get out of control very quickly.
And of course, they don't like reporters like myself or Savannah because we're actually showing them, showing the public what they actually do, not through their selected propaganda videos.
But it's necessary.
Being out in the chaos is absolutely necessary because people need to understand what's happening and they need to actually make an informed declaration.
Just because, like you said, they're getting backing from the media.
They've been getting backing from their local and state politicians.
Now, I will say that actually BBC did a good report just at the end of last year where they interviewed a man from Honduras who was initially saving up money to cross illegally into the United States.
But because of the show of force that ICE and Border Patrol and DHS is doing within the United States to do interior enforcement, that has dissuaded him and many other people from even making the journey.
So it is a double, it's a double-edged sword, right?
And I would say that the self-deportations are happening at a much higher rate than people are expecting.
Obviously, that's not everything.
And like, yes, people do need to be found, you know, especially those with like hardened criminal records need to be found because they're probably not going to leave on their own accord.
But that's why it's so dangerous of what U.S. citizens are doing by injecting themselves into these situations.
And the vice president, you know, Vice President Vance just yesterday was very correct when he said that this was of her own making.
You know, this idea that you can just park your car perpendicular to interrupt this convoy and think that nothing's going to happen.
Like at a minimum, you're not going to be detained to figure out what's going to happen to you, you know, to ascertain what's going on and what your intentions are.
But that's where we are right now.
And that's why I'm pretty concerned that this is just going to continue to escalate as the year goes on, especially.
I mean, who knows what's going to happen in this three years?
I mean, I would sit down with Besobic and say, hey, look, you did that when you were younger.
You got to watch out.
These people are viciously, viciously violent.
So you got to constantly, you've got to be on top of this.
This weekend is, they're stirring it up.
The hatred, the raw hatred for President Trump, but that's just raw hatred for the country.
Here's the bottom line.
They're trying to stop.
They were very organized on allowing, it wasn't chaos and anarchy.
It was very organized to exacerbate the invasion of the country, to initiate and exacerbate the invasion of country so they could get 20 million people.
Think about that for a second.
Country on earth, except maybe in, you know, like in the Roman Empire, right with the Visigoths and uh and the Goths and uh and and folks like that you know, going across Europe into North Africa and back.
Have you had to?
And they didn't have the numbers?
15 to 20 million people.
Are you kidding me?
It's the biggest national security issue in the history of the country.
What if we had the founders say, if we had the revolutionary generation said, oh, yeah, on the 250th and the 250th anniversary of what you men and women are fighting for, we're going to, right before that, we're going to have allowed 20 million people to come into this country, foreigners, most of them very bad ombres, definitely don't want to assimilate into our culture.
Do not believe in the underlying tenets of the Judeo-Christian West or America as a Christian country.
Are you kidding me?
They sit there and go, what are you talking about?
All we're trying to do is something very simple.
They all have to go.
Mass deportations.
They all have to go.
I understand the liberals because the business model of the left is they can't win elections against true American citizens.
So they're going to fight.
This is the hill they're going to die on because once you do this and take out the money, it's over.
They understand this.
This is why this battle's got to be engaged.
And we have to win.
This is one of the reasons we're down here in Texas because you have an Islamic invasion of the first among equals of our great states in the union, the great state of Texas.
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And I believe he's going to do a show live there, which we're looking forward to.
Grant is a hardcore Texan and understands what's going on in this beautiful state, this great state that's got to be stopped and going to be stopped starting March or starting immediately, but March 3rd is the primary.
Wade Miller joins us.
Wade, you guys have done over at CRA, have done extensive work on this Islamic invasion in the United States of America.
And I keep telling folks, what you're seeing up in Minneapolis and New York City, you got Mondama, you got a situation in Portland, and now the New York Post has confirmed what I've been saying, that Soros with indivisible and care and care.
And thank God for Governor Abbott and Governor DeSantis that have declared not just the Muslim Brotherhood, but CARE as terrorist organizations.
And if they're terrorist organizations, why are we not kicking down the doors of their offices and boom, yanking them all out of there?
Let's put them in prison.
Let's put them in jail.
Shouldn't be in this country.
We shouldn't have to, people shouldn't have to worry about this.
Wade, tell me about the work CRA is doing in this area, sir.
I wrote about this two years ago at a time when people said, you can't say that.
And so instead of me saying it, I cited 84 examples of leftists saying it.
And it really didn't make any splash in the water because I don't think anyone could refute that.
But what has happened is we've brought tens of millions of people into this country through poor vetting processes.
Many of them are radicalized Islamists.
And so we've seen these groups to start existing in enclaves in various states.
Certainly, we're seeing this outgrowth in Minnesota.
We're seeing this outgrowth in Texas through Epoch City.
And so we started writing a lot about this starting a couple of years ago, citing polling data on extremist views held by the vast majority of people from the countries that a lot of these populations are coming from.
And they're starting to be rather large populations in Houston and Dallas.
And a lot of these people are very radicalized.
And the problem is, is that there has been a conception on the right that the Second Amendment is absolute in terms of you can't have conversations about religious beliefs.
The problem with that is that George Washington himself addressed this when he was talking about Quakers.
And he said, yes, the Second Amendment protects religious liberty, but it does not protect invasive ideologies.
And I'm paraphrasing and adding in some things and getting to the point of what Washington was basically saying.
And his point was the Quakers, they're adding to the civic community.
Yes, they have a different viewpoint.
It is fundamentally different.
Islam is a conquering ideology.
It exists to fundamentally alter the culture for the purpose of radically transforming the constitutional order.
And for the life of me, I don't understand for the vast majority.
I'm not saying that there's not outliers or a small minority or even a sizable minority that might fit the bill.
But the vast majority statistically of people who raise their hands and become citizens of this country who are Islamists shouldn't be able to.
They fundamentally hold core ideologies and strongly held beliefs that are at complete odds with the oath that they're taking.
And so we're starting to see outgrowths of this problem manifest in various states.
In Texas, I'm excited.
You know, if Chip Roy becomes the attorney general there, there's no one that I trust more to actually attack this problem in a way that the courts will recognize as responsible and uphold.
So there's a real opportunity there, but there's also opportunities in the Texas legislature.
There's opportunities the governor could be taking.
We've got to start confronting this.
We have to stop hiding behind this false notion that we can't stop radical Islam from fundamentally reshaping our entire culture and constitutional order.
The First Amendment does not protect that conquering ideology.
We can take steps to stop the actions that are coming out of that ideology that are designed to destroy us.
So being a Muslim and believing in the Quran is a protected act.
What is not protected is the methodical, organized effort to use that ideology to start working with other people in larger and larger numbers to start undermining our entire order.
And then, furthermore, to start pushing for the enactment of some of their ideas.
You know, like if an increasing number of radical Islamists wanted to make child bride marriage legal in the United States, that would not be protected.
They can believe that.
They can't do it.
And so what we're seeing is that the conquering ideology is now being put into practice.
And it is that practice that is itself not necessarily protected by the First Amendment.
Sorry, I was going to buy a gun the other day and the Second Amendment was on my mind.
But it is the First Amendment I was referring to.
So that's why it is okay for us to say you can believe whatever you want.
You can't do that in this country.
You can't force this upon our culture and society.
And you can't specifically, you certainly can't do it with the express intention of undermining our entire order to undermine the constitutional republic.