Episode 5035: WarRoom New Years Eve Special 2025 Cont.
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It's Wednesday, 31 December in the year of our Lord 2025.
We're continuing on with this discussion.
Ben Harnwell, the floor is yours, and we're bringing Brad in.
Also, Joe Allen's going to join us in talking about the year behind us.
One thing to take, and we'll get into more of this tomorrow.
Although I think tomorrow we're going to have hopefully a more general conversation, everybody getting motivated and jacked up for just being the first of the year and maybe not so content specific as we're doing today.
But the lessons learned from this year, we're ending with an enormous fight that's actually going to propel us through the next couple of years.
Okay, because your question at the beginning was why effectively have, let's use the word for this betrayal.
Why have we been betrayed in occupied Europe and in the United States as well by our political class?
What is the supernatural, the religious, the spiritual reason for that?
Well, look, perhaps we'll handle the issue a little more tomorrow.
But let me say this, right?
That the principle, as I see it, difference between Christianity and Islam, seeing as the new Pope is going to put his hand on the Quran to make his oath, let's dig into this and say what's the difference.
The difference is that Christianity is predicated on the Christian.
So look, so on the background of this, the difference is that Christianity is a religion predicated on interior conversion, whereas Islam is predicated on exterior conformance, conforming oneself to the external requirements on behavior.
And that's interesting, right?
Because I would suggest for that reason that Christianity is a far more difficult religion to follow because it requires bending your will to that of God.
So when you say, why is it that we have been betrayed?
Let's look at the Times article, which you quoted Laura Loomers, having a gushing approach to Mandani as insistence to put his hand on the Quran.
They would never, the New York Times would never write in this way if Dave Bratt had said when he was sworn in as a congressman, his motivation for putting his hand on the Bible, right?
These are the people, the secular left, are the people that drove out, I think it was in the 1980s via the Supreme Court, they drove out Christian prayer in schools because they said it was against the Constitution, right?
Let's not forget that.
The left hates Jesus Christ and his religion and his faith and his revelation.
They hate the sanctity of Christianity and they will embrace anything that is antithetical towards that.
So why have we been betrayed by our elites?
Steve, it comes down to the queen of all the sins.
It's pride.
Remembering what I said about the difference between Christianity and Islam, proud people, because they are proud, do not like the idea of having to bend themselves to God in an interior disposition way, which is not necessary if you are Muslim.
All you've got to do is do the exterior observance effectively.
And that, I think, is why we've been betrayed.
It's a spiritual issue, and it comes from the fact driven by the devil, if I'm allowed to say that on the war room, encouraging proud minds that do not want to bend themselves down and incline themselves down to the Prince of Peace.
And that is the consequence.
That's why we've been betrayed.
And everything else that we see on the political sphere is simply a rationalization of that refusal to submit to God via Jesus Christ.
But they will submit, and they certainly will submit.
They will end up submitting to a very different religion of that of Islam, which, of course, is submission in and of itself.
That is, you've got the Low Countries, Brussels, big riot overnight for some African soccer cup.
The Moroccans all living in Brussels, just one of the groups they've got up there taking over the center of the city.
I think, is it 88% of, I think it's in, I think it's in Brussels, 88% of the kids in school are foreigners or not people from Belgium.
Is Europe C Germany the disaster Germany's turn into?
Outside of Hungary and Poland, as some of the Eastern European countries, even with alternative for Deutschland and Vox in Spain and the reform movement in the party in the United Kingdom with Tommy Robinson and his group, which is vying for political power, is Europe too far gone?
Have the elites just thrown in the towel?
And they're asking for us to put now combat troops into Ukraine to protect them from the Russians.
I might say the Russians who are Orthodox Christian, hello, and who don't tolerate, you've seen in Chechnya, they don't tolerate, they would never tolerate what's going on in the cities of Paris and Berlin and London and Brussels, sir.
But I have to push back on something in your question.
It's not that the elites have thrown in the towel.
They designed this.
They propagated.
They pushed it.
They did it first via subversion and it's now in your face because of it.
It's inevitable.
And they use all the pejoratives against people that don't want to participate in this, that don't want to see this.
They say you're racist, you're fascist, you're anti-Semitic, you're white nationalists.
We know we all know what the pejoratives are.
The only difference is now, and this is one of the great blessings that the Trump phenomenon has bestowed on the rest of the world, is that nobody cares anymore.
If you are out to fight for your civilization and your culture, there were a great difference to 10 years ago.
They can throw these pejoratives at you, but no one will care.
Say what you want.
I'm going to go ahead and protect my country because I love my country.
That is the essence of patriotism now that's developing in Europe.
Look, before I hand back to you, let me answer your question on this about being too far gone.
Yes, it is too far gone.
But I will caution people, right, in the Israel context, to hesitate before dismissing too quickly the two-state solution, because that's what we're going to want in mainland Europe, in occupied Europe.
We will eventually be forced into seeking our own two-state solution, whereas because Muslims will take the majority.
As we said on the Christmas Eve show, Steve, it's not true to say that Europe is post-Christian anymore.
It's more accurate to say it's pre-Islamic.
So, too far gone, we will be seeking our own two-state solutions in the various EU member states where Christians, the best that we can hope for, will be small territorial enclaves that might last for a few decades, a few centuries, before even those will be denied to us as the numbers shrink.
That's the future here in occupied Europe.
And if we can, because of our folly and our complacency, perform one last service to the civilized world before we finally bubble under, it would be this.
We can show America the path of where militant secularism leads, what's really driving it, and say just before we disappear from existence to America, do not follow this path.
Do everything that you can to resist following this path.
America, I said this on the show before, Steve, America can still just about rescue itself from the disaster that the uni party has created for it.
Folks will remember that Christianity was basically divided into two, the Roman half, and then the Eastern half, the Byzantine half, ruled from Constantinople.
And that lasted for a thousand years after the collapse of the Roman Empire.
And then even that too subsumed, surrendered, not surrendered, it did fight, but eventually it was not possible to save it from, I think it was the Ottoman Empire, obviously, that eventually destroyed that last remnant.
And we are in the rest of continental Europe in exactly the same situation as Constantinople was, a city now known as Istanbul.
One part of the day was supposed to be, we may not get to was about capital markets for the year.
Part of this show is to teach you, is to make sure that you understand and have access to and teach the underpinnings of geopolitics to make sure that you understand the national security aspects of the United States of America so that if we talk about Ukraine or the Chinese Communist Party or Straits of Taiwan, Venezuela, that you can put it into an intellectual framework.
The same with finance and the global economy so that you understand when you've got the big, beautiful bill and people are running on a fox talking nonsense.
You understand the basis of it is that it is a supply-side tax cut to give some advantages to capital that are invested, particularly immediately into plant and equipment through certain tax breaks or tax advantages.
That one of the purposes of the tariffs is to say, hey, this is the most exclusive market in the world and you're going to have to pay for access to that.
Now, what we want you to do is to bring plant and equipment back over here and create high-value added jobs.
But if you don't do that, there'll be a tolling fee and that'll be a tariff.
I think it's becoming pretty clear today that Navarro and President Trump's policies were correct.
You don't see any kind of runaway inflation from the tariffs.
They all warned it was the end of the world and it's become anything but.
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Joe Allen's going to join the conversation.
Dave Bratt's with us.
And of course, Ben Harnwell in Rome.
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Ben Hardworth, before I want to get Brad in here, but I do, the piece up on Getter, and if we can, Mo and Grace, if we can push that out, and I know you have a huge fan base over there, it's about a Guardian piece about France and Macrone and the era of Trumpism, which has got them all upset all the time.
I gave an interview to kind of one of the right-wing newspapers last week, and people's heads were blowing up as I talked about the drive of the Trump movement and hopefully how it's not hopefully, but how it's inspiring other right-wing movements throughout the world.
What did this article say?
Why do you feel that it had to go up today on New Year's Eve?
What is happening in France, this particular story, it's programmatic of what is taking place.
It defines both 2025, if not also the previous decades before today, and it's going to define 2026, 2026, if not the forthcoming decades after tomorrow.
The headline speaks for itself.
France fears era of Trumpism as public broadcaster comes under fire from the right.
We'll get the link out.
As I say, it was the subject on my daily post today on Guetta.
My analysis, however, wasn't so much for the fact that here's the Guardian recognizing that the quoting a French leftist journalist who feared that there was now this era of Trumpism in France.
Because, you know, if I wanted to say, oh, look, this shows the populist nationalist economic nationalist movement growing in France.
And isn't this great?
And yes, it is great.
But my actual analysis on this is it's too little too late.
You can't allow what has happened to France to take place over many decades and then think a French Trump, even if one were to emerge.
And I'm not sure that that's the case in France, but we'll be able to turn back the tide because this is too far gone that the country culturally, whatever metric you want to lose, too far gone.
This is the importance of New York.
This is the importance of the mayor taking his oath of office on the Quran.
Islam is still a minority phenomenon in the United States right now, even though the mass invasion that's taking place has chipped away that it's still clearly a minority.
And I can repeat what I said before the break.
What we can do in Europe, the service that we can perform in occupied Europe, is to say to America not to follow the path that we're going on.
That is why, Steve, you know, we do criticize occasionally President Trump, right?
But the reason why he is a providential figure for the salvation of America and the American Republic is because he's the only person in elected office who would have the courage to talk about denaturalization and deportation.
And that is how, America, you are going to save yourselves.
That's why the open, the very open this morning, went back to the speech, I think the National Conservative.
They tell me that was in September, early September, right after Labor Day, where I hawked back to that speech I made in Pinehurst, North Carolina, a couple of years ago.
I think it was in November of 23, where I said this day is coming when you have the convergence of these social welfare programs with the fact that you're going to have to denaturalize and deport these people and you're going to have a firestorm in this country.
That's what's before us.
And if we don't win this fight, country's over.
The country's over.
Like Europe's over today.
And people are saying we can't do a rearguard action.
I might want to mention, too, and I haven't had enough time to develop this, and maybe we do it when we get back on Friday and Saturday or early next week.
Brigitte Bardot, Bridget Bardot, people, you know, one of the most beautiful women in the world and from the 1950s and 60s.
And of course, they say an animal rights activist.
People are glossing over her fight.
She was taken to court.
How many times, Ben?
I think it was five times.
She was dragged into court in the 1990s.
And she's one of the first, she's the first celebrity, I think, on a global basis.
But this one, who is incredibly smart, she threw down hard.
And she threw down hard on two things.
Number one, Islam, and number two, the LGBTQ evocation of the culture.
And she was kind of like Anita Bryant was back in the 60s and 70s.
And she's what I refer to as a tough broad, right?
She wasn't backing down at all.
I think they took her to court.
Was it five times?
And they tried to bankrupt her.
I think actually they did kind of bankrupt her.
And she would not back off.
She says, you're not going to take away my rights to say this.
You're not going to take it.
And she's like Cassandra.
You go back and look what Bridget Bardot said in the 1990s about Islam.
And you look at Paris, France today, and she was Cassandra.
She told you exactly what was going to happen.
And they called her, you know, some young musician put up an iconic photo of her on her social media the last couple of days.
And that young singer-songwriter was eviscerated by her base, her fan base today saying, how could you say this?
And you're idolizing a racist and a xenophobe and one of the worst people in the world.
But Bridget Bardot, for five times, I remember in the 90s, they absolutely tried to kill her, sir.
Let's remember from Greek mythology that Cassandra was cursed by the gods to prophesy the truth, but not to be believed.
And that is definitely the case with Bridget Bardot.
I think she retired from acting at the age of 39, right?
Devoting the rest of her life to animal welfare.
And that was one of the motivations, not the only one, but one of the motivations in her almost singular position talking against the Islamification of France.
And this is an issue which we will certainly return to on the war room.
And this is the issue to do with the ritualistic slaughter of animals, which is required, obviously, in Islam.
And she was absolutely against the garotting of animals whilst they're still alive.
And whilst, you know, you're not allowed when you're preparing halal food, you're not allowed to stun the animals beforehand either.
And that was obviously one of behind part of that motivation.
That is an issue that we need to come back to, the ritual slaughter of animals.
And that's a big issue, I think, around which MAGA should have something intelligent to say, because I think it would unite a lot of people who concerned about the welfare of animals, such as myself, with a concern.
You know, if it wasn't being done in the name of Islam, if you're doing that in the name of Christianity, you would see the state move to prohibit it.
Islam obviously gets a free pass.
That is something I'd like to return to.
And I think the war room can be a platform for that.
And I think that will be a legacy of what Brigitte Bardot was doing as well for 50 or so years of her French acting life.
Yeah, well, it's upside for all the wrong reasons.
I agree with Harnwell, but I think there is hope in Europe.
You know, Calvin and Hobbes, Thomas Hobbes, the social contract, the Leviathan, the only reason people unite for a social contract, the original position was for survival.
And bringing up, you know, Bridget Bardot, et cetera, and the elites in Europe, the Islamic witness to complete, what's the word I'm searching for?
Submission.
The elites have not been forced to submit yet.
Once they are forced to submit, you're going to see a change there.
And I just want to say two more quick things.
Islam.
Who speaks for Islam in Minnesota right now?
What is the Islamic logic?
Who speaks for the Somalis?
They don't have a speaker.
Who speaks for their theology?
Who speaks for their systems of thought?
We all want to know that.
And then, secondly, it's interesting to note, like in Minnesota, is a perfect example.
Islam is not a construction system.
It's not building things.
It's tearing down and deconstructing and taking over.
And that's why in London and Paris, et cetera, it's not sustainable.
Long run.
There is no way that is sustainable.
And I think that's, there will be a reaction, as Plato taught, you know, in 400 BC, what follows weakness in democracy?
The strong man.
Don't want that.
Don't want that to happen.
But that's what's naturally going to follow when the social contract breaks down and the elites are forced into submission.
Things will change.
And all of a sudden, the wealthy folks are going to get a hint.
You know, Steve, I think 2025 will be remembered as the year that the last year anyone could deny that artificial intelligence is among the most important forces in civilization.
People have long said that it's nothing but hype.
Those days are all done.
Anyone who's saying it's just a bubble or even just a tool, I think those people will be seen as tools themselves.
You know, I've oftentimes said, Steve, that I tried to warn the world that I have a Cassandra complex, but nobody would believe me.
And I think that 2026 will prove that right.
Now, the stats that you're talking about, this has been going on for some time, but it's now crystallizing.
You now have Fox News.
You have, you know, PBS, you have CNN.
This is now a normal part of conversation.
It's no longer a sideshow.
It's no longer a freak show.
Yeah, one in five kids in the survey said that they had had romantic conversations with AI.
Most of them probably casual, many of them not, but this is just the beginning.
Same goes for adults.
Roughly one in five adults have had romantic conversations with AI.
And I've actually spoken to a few of these adults.
Some of them take it seriously.
Most of them are kind of joking around.
But again, this is just the beginning.
And I think for 2026, what I'm going to be looking at the most is going to be the people who do not want that future.
Right now, it's a majority or it's a minority of people who are enamored by this technology, who believe it's essential to their lives or their businesses or their education.
I want to see it continue to be a minority because if you hit a tipping point in which even a third of all Americans are completely cyborged out, that's not going to be the same civilization that we had even in the year 2000, the last great year.
2025, and looking back over it, and one of the things that concerns me the most, and we'll get into the politics of it and the organization activism in the days ahead, as the audience knows, of already you've galvanized people and working with other people, just done so many great things.
This audience has stopped really what would have been total anarchy and chaos.
And that is one of the great blessings that you should thank God for tonight as the new year ends.
But I noticed that there is a relentless push on the commercialization of this for this, what I call agentic effect that AI, that you cannot live a whole life, you cannot live a full life unless you have artificial intelligence as an agent in your life.
Talk to me about that because I think that's one of the as I look down the battlefield, I see this thing of trying to get, particularly in the business community, to start there, particularly for young people.
Now, young people are going to bear the brunt of the lack of jobs, but as you try to put yourself forward in a profession and to learn whatever that craft is, whether it's investment banking and finance, or whether it's real estate or whether it's manufacturing or marketing, everything, this whole push that you're going to need an agent, because the way you get into a romantic relationship or start having discussions is that somehow you have to have some sort of relationship with this artificial intelligence.
And they're pushing this commercial application in an educational application.
Yes, Steve, this is basically an advertisement for the end of humanity as we know it.
The way they talk about it is, as you say, your life will not be complete.
You will never compete in business.
You will never compete in academia if you do not use AI.
I think the way that should be interpreted, I think that when people here use AI, they should by and large think of it as offload your thinking to AI.
When you see right now, the applications across business in academia, it's by and large so that you can increase productivity.
That means that you've automated your thinking.
You have let the machine interpret a document.
You've let the machine create your PowerPoint.
You've let the machine write all of your emails.
In many cases, you've let the machine analyze important business matters or financial problems, and the machine itself is producing the solution.
Children are being prepared for this.
They're being told, again, AI is how you're going to be able to compete against your peers.
But we've seen from the beginning, from the release of ChatGPT, that what it's by and large used for is to offload thinking to the machine.
That means a number of different things, Steve.
The most critical, I think, beyond the control element is that you're going to see an entire generation that is tempted to completely offload their thinking to an algorithmic parasite.
This thing is going to live in their minds and be the primary mechanism by which they analyze their own lives or their business lives, their social lives, the society itself, who to vote for, who to trust.
All these things have already, by and large, been digitized.
But at least in the previous cyborg era, you had human beings that were communicating with each other via digital formats and they were cyborged together.
Now they're doing everything possible.
And by they, I mean Google, I mean XAI, I mean OpenAI, and I mean Anthropic, and I mean Meta AI.
All of these companies are positioning themselves into the same place that each of us has been in our own kind of cyborgized digital network, aka the internet, aka social media.
It was bad enough already, in my opinion.
You know that I'm very much an extremist when it comes to the downsides of technology.
But even if you thought it was nightmarish that your child's best friend is a person they've never met online, think about a future in which your child's best friend, in which your child's girlfriend or boyfriend is online, but isn't even human.
This is being born as we speak.
It will continue to develop.
But again, I really do believe that we are at a point right now where critical decisions are being made and can be made.
And if we have enough momentum behind the resistance to all this and behind the acceptance of our humanity and the embrace of our humanity, as I oftentimes say, enough of us will make it.
We've had, you know, the bulk of the show, we've talked about the Islamification of Europe, this whole push to tomorrow, Mamdani's going to take his oath in New York City, what, 25 years, 25 years after 9-11.
And if you told people back then, 25 years, you know, a quarter of a century later, you're going to have a guy put his hand on the Quran and swear in as the mayor of New York to replace Rudy Giuliani, right?
Or Michael Bloomberg or something like that.
Your religious training, the underpinnings of this, because once again, at a very deep level, and this is for people that maybe are not particularly religious.
You think you're totally secular.
You just don't buy religion.
You're not particularly spiritual.
Just like in the fight on this war against the rise of Islam in the United States and in Christendom, this fight right here is deeply spiritual because on this side of the football, you have Homo sapien made in the image and likeness of God.
And on the other side, you have enhanced Homo sapien made in the image and likeness of these oligarchs and the machine.
How important was it that religious training you got?
I mean, one of the powers, when we brought you over here, I said, hey, this guy's got a master's in theology from the same place Martin Luther King went.
This is the guy we need, not some technician, you know, some high-tech guy, because they're not that they're not important, but they're kind of a dime a dozen.
Is this a religious and spiritual war at its core?
The idea of the image of God, you think about what the AIs are doing.
They're absorbing all of the images of ourselves that we're putting online.
Yes, photographs, yes, family occasions or parties, but this system, this technological system, is drawing out our deepest fears, our deepest hopes, our desires.
It's drawing out our personal relationships.
It's drawing out our communication patterns and has for decades.
What artificial intelligence does is it gives these corporations or governments, anyone who has sufficient amounts of compute and data can take all of that otherwise by and large senseless data, make sense of it, and most importantly, it can replicate you.
Now, it may not be of quality of the same quality as you.
It won't matter if that's what is accepted.
They can take all of your data.
They can replicate your image.
They can replicate your voice.
They can replicate the types of things you would normally say.
They can replicate your mind.
It's a half-formed wraith, but as you say, Steve, the bill, the way they're pitching this is that your digital self will be as important as your actual self.
And when you get out into the really religious elements of this, the transhumanists who believe that we will upload our souls in that sort of way of thinking, the digital self is the self, is the most important self.
It saw me all over the country and even over in Switzerland for a bit.
I've met all sorts of amazing people, people who are filled with spirit, people who are filled with love for each other, and people whose love gives them the will to defend what they love against invasion.
What we've heard today is, I think, a very astute, accurate description of a West that is being invaded.
We're being invaded, have been invaded for centuries by sort of alien secular ideology that's allowed for open borders and the invasion of the actual demographic, the actual people, by peoples from all over the world whose religious systems are certainly not compatible.
On top of this is a technological invasion.
What we are seeing with artificial intelligence could easily be thought of as algorithmic immigrants who are invading the digital space, taking jobs, forming deep relationships with people and swaying the politics.
So I think if 2025 can be remembered as an age or a year of invasion, 2026 will be seen as the period in which we are putting up the barriers, we're drawing the lines, and we're defending what we have and pushing it back out to where it belongs.
Just last thing, quickly, Joe, as you've gone around the country, really the world, but you've gone around the country, I just want this audience to understand 2025, there is an awakening and people are down for the fight.