Episode 5019: Does New Polling Reveal Christ Is Alive In The US
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So last week we talked about inflation coming in lower than expected.
Now economic growth is one full percentage point faster than expected.
It was supposed to come in at 3.3, came in at 4.3.
This is a direct result of everything President Trump has put in place.
Net exports are on the rise because of Trump's tariff policy, which is leveling the trade playing field.
AI is increasing productivity.
Businesses are investing and spending.
And the consumer remains strong.
And just think, next, I think, well, next quarter, they'll end up getting an extra $150 billion in refund checks that they can then deploy and spend as well.
Well, it's really a fantastic number, and it's a great Christmas present for the American people.
And, you know, I would say that the headline for me is two things.
That I think the big macro trends that we're seeing in these numbers are, first of all, that President Trump's trade agenda is working.
And so we got about, you know, one and a half percent of the growth on 4.3 because we reduced the trade deficit.
And then the other thing that I think, which is a big macro thing that we're seeing, is that the artificial intelligence productivity boom is really clearly in the data.
And I guess you and I are old enough that we remember back in the 90s when the computer came in that all of a sudden you have like 4% quarters all the time, one after the other.
And it kept surprising people because they thought, oh, you know, computers are everywhere, a bit of the productivity data, but we're seeing it in the data.
And we're seeing the same kind of regular surprises for market participants.
And so we went back and we looked at every Bloomberg forecast for the main numbers since September and found that on average we outperformed the forecast 94% of the time.
So if 94% of Wall Street economists are getting the macro trends wrong, they need to start to think about, hey, you know, maybe Trump's policies are actually way better than we thought.
And maybe the fake news that says all these terrible things about Trump policies should reconsider and grab their pencil and redo their economics.
Well, you know, I like the way the charts tell a picture.
If you look at twos and tens when the number was released, a couple things should jump out at you.
The twos definitely seem to be more aggressive in holding the upside.
I don't think that's for any big reasons to explain the Fed or acknowledge percentages and probabilities.
I think it's purely the next chart, which is 10 years bucking up against that 419 to 420 resistance.
That chart goes back nearly two weeks, and stopping it there makes perfect sense.
And if you open the chart up, should we settle above 419, and it doesn't look like we will, that'd be a three and a half month high yield close.
To me, a bit of the surprise today was the dollar index.
When the data was released at 830, it definitely turned up.
It had been moving down, but it really doesn't alter the general picture.
Any close today below 98.14 is a two and a half month low.
And to answer your question more directly, Kelly, I personally still don't see any path to get to 2%.
So many could disinflation, especially those that were potential picks for Fed chairs.
But ultimately, just like anything else in our economy, when the economy gets good, competition for capital gets hot.
And that's why usually, historically, a good economy may have higher rates, specifically on the long end.
It isn't necessarily a bad thing.
I think the big negative here is the fact that we have one report with hot inflation.
We have other reports with cool inflation.
I need to get a better GPS.
And in terms of consumer confidence, I would take a very big shovel and shovel them all right into the garbage dump because Main Street media has polluted the well and this administration doesn't get a lot of credit that the markets give it.
And I think that's what the issue is driving negative confidence.
I said in my speech the other night to Amfest that this would be the, I don't want to say next, the midterm election, the most important election in history.
You've heard that every election for years, although we have won seven of eight national elections since 2015, 2016, that this would be the hardest and toughest, and I think the most politically violent because the radical left is about to lose the economic argument.
You can tell this as we've been tracking around Warwick and bringing you the top experts to talk about the big, beautiful bill and the capital expenditure from that and the tax relief that capital providers are getting, companies are getting, plus the forcing function of the Pincer move, the forcing function of the tariffs, which are driving corporate and country investment in the United States in plant and equipment,
to which President Trump says $19 trillion, but I don't know if that's the exact number, but it's a big number, as is the big number.
That is coming now, but it's really going to manifest itself in the first and second quarter.
Folks, I just want you to know the number that came out today when you really get below the hood is pretty damn impressive.
If you couple that with the inflation number the other day, we're point down on inflation, which is nobody expected that.
And now you have 4.3% growth.
And as EJ and Tony said, this is not because of government spending.
A lot of the positive numbers you had during the Biden regime was 100% because of government spending.
Here you've got consumer, you've got solid consumer spending.
It's just not all in the elites.
You've got some CapEx coming in.
These are very solid numbers.
And as Maria Bartiroma said, hey, if you got 4.3 now, she sees a five-handle sometime in 2026.
And we start getting 5% growth.
You're kind of turbocharging in the modern world.
But my point, if this trend continues, particularly when the big payoff of the capital expenditure, and of course, they talk there about the tax returns and all the different tax breaks he's given working class people and what they're talking about, these refunds, plus you got the 1776 money coming in.
You know, you could put up some big numbers, potentially.
The Democrats are going to lose the club that they have tried to browbeat President Trump from the beginning of the economy.
He got a terrible economy.
And it looks like with Scott Besson, Peter Navarro, Hassett, with no help from Powell and the Fed at all, we've had Malpass on here telling you about how it's an anti-growth strategy over there.
That it is, this is enormously, enormously impressive.
And a bunch of the people are sitting there going, oh, Trump is finished, it's done.
Let's move on.
And MAGA, you know, MAGA's like the school cafeteria now.
Who's sitting at the cool clubs, the cool kids' table?
Who's saying what about what person?
As I keep, as I said at that speech the other night, and I tell you every day on the show, that's not, that's all noise.
All of it's noise.
There are deep, deep things going on here that from a policy perspective, whether it's AI, whether it's this issue of greater Israel, whether it's the mass deportations.
And at the cornerstone of it is the economy.
Now, as a populist nationalist movement, we're not like the traditional Republicans.
The economy is everything because we're much more than the economy.
We're a country and a culture and a society.
And on that note, the Supreme Court, I'm not saying it's a total loss, but I think it was a surprise, at least it was a surprise to me, maybe not to some of the people on the left, and maybe not even some of the people that were arguing it.
Although I think the administration, we did get a speed bump today.
They've ruled that 6'3, that the troops can't go into Chicago to remove, to support the ICE agents in removing illegals.
For right now, that's on hold.
The president can't send them in until the whole thing's adjudicated.
In other words, they were looking for temporary relief to keep the troops in there.
The Supreme Court has essentially backed President Trump's Article II powers and the expansion of those powers to what the Constitution says.
And I think this is the first time we've really hit a speed bump.
We're going to get more about that.
We're trying to get Mike Davis, some of the legal guys, but we got Neil McCabe, who's a National Guard, to give that perspective.
I want to bring in Barris, Richard Barris.
So, Richard, you've done this big poll.
You always do a Christmas poll, and I want to get to that.
But I got to ask you, these numbers, and I'm going to replay part of that cold open later.
You saw the, you know, kind of the people very excited.
I want to say ecstatic, but very excited about where these numbers are going, particularly people that are supporters of President Trump.
And I can just double up.
If you read the FT, if you read the New York Times business section, the Washington Post business section, the Wall Street Journal, it's always doom and gloom.
Their elements, they like the tax cuts for themselves on the big beautiful bill, but they say President Trump's lost, you know, the animal spirits have lost confidence in him.
I think it's anything but that.
I think these numbers today are pretty shocking.
Thoughts about that, Richard?
Because I said, hey, look, as soon as the Democrats lose affordability and they got a double whammy, you had a significant drop in inflation and toward growth.
I mean, it should be the exact opposite.
And President Trump, kind of that, the magic he pulled in 2017 to 2019, culminating in 2019, may be back at work, sir.
Look, that report, you know, you watch CNN, you watch CNBC, and, you know, they can't help it.
They have to, you know, at least they could try to glaze if they want, but this was a much bigger number than expected.
And truth be told, if you understand how the methodology for GDP works, you understood from the beginning the brilliance of Donald Trump's tariff strategy, Steve.
We've had this insane policy of slicing a massive chunk of our GDP off with ridiculous trade deficits.
And now we have these multi-year lows that we haven't seen in a long time or narrowing of the deficit.
Plus, the tariffs themselves, and I think this is a very big deal for people who had to tolerate and live through what the left-wing media had said would happen with these tariffs.
They did not create the inflationary crisis that the chicken littles who were claiming the sky was going to fall said they would create.
So this fear that they put into the public never came to fruition.
And now we're seeing this huge growth.
I was listening to Marie in the open.
5% growth on the horizon, it can happen.
He changed.
He did something that no other president really had the stomach or the backbone to do.
He went after the ridiculous trade regime.
And that was always going to have a dramatic impact on GDP.
Plus, spending was a lot much more than people expected.
I remember when we talked about the big, beautiful bill and debt and deficits and increasing.
The audience will remember this.
We had Besson on here.
Besson's theory of the case, if you can get to three, definitely three and a half, but maybe 3% growth continuous off of this, that you could outrun the deficits of adding more to the national debt.
I mean, none of those guys thought about a 4.3% in the third quarter in this year.
And I think what Maria is saying is that you can see a print for 5% in 2026.
This is why I say the Democrats, when you take this issue away from them, which they've totally misread in the business media has been clubbing President Trump.
This is why I said at Amfest, do you take this issue away from them?
They're going to go crazy.
And they're going to be even more dangerous than they've been to date.
Anyway, Richard, you've got your Christmas poll you do every year, and we always have you on to talk about it.
We're packed.
We start off today.
I didn't want to have many guests.
I wanted to spend a lot of time with each guest on a couple of issues, including what's going on with heritage.
Huge news.
Rabbi Walecki broke that huge news this morning on the show that Ron Derman and others are working on a proposal with Netanyahu that I think he's going to present to President Trump when he comes to meet.
And it's about ending the MOU.
People have talked about extending it for another 25 years, about ending it, not taking any more money from the United States for Israel's defense, get their complete sovereignty and their total independence.
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But, you know, things, you know, the calendar, the calendar calls, right?
But every year we ask a series of questions.
Number one, do you celebrate Christmas?
And then various ways that people do.
We even asked what their favorite, you know, color scheme, Christmas color scheme is the classic red and green, right?
The red and white candy cane, which is all really fun.
But I think the highlight from this poll is that this year, well, first of all, 92% of the country still celebrates Christmas, which is incredible.
But when this year we decided, we always had this question which asked people whether or not they, how religious do you celebrate?
Is it a strongly religious component for you, somewhat religious, not really religious?
And this year we wanted to expand on that.
So we asked straight up about belief in God.
And that's not just to everyone who said, yes, they celebrate Christmas.
That's everybody.
And belief in God, about eight in 10 Americans believe in God.
As a testament to this being a Christian nation, 93% of them believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God, which is something else that we asked, which I just thought is huge.
Somebody's got to point blank ask this.
We'll ask about the resurrection when we get around to Easter.
But we really wanted to ask that point blank to people.
And that number was massive.
Of the 10%, Steve, another big one, of the 10% who told us that they were unsure about whether they believed in God, because our results show that this unbelief or the rise of the nuns is probably exaggerated.
It's more like we have a bunch of spiritual or would-be spiritual people who want to believe in God wandering around in the wilderness because church leaders are too busy, you know, shilling for their favorite foreign policy or whatever it is.
But we were told by these people that the reason why they said unsure is that they think that God probably or likely exists.
60% of them said that, and that they just have doubts.
So you have this massive number of people that we just consider to be unbelievers, really not unbelievers.
They're celebrating Christmas.
They want to believe.
They just have doubts.
They have questions and they don't know.
And I honestly think every year the Christmas poll, it's great, it's fun, but it does highlight that the church has some real problems.
And this year, when we prodded a little bit more, now we know why.
People are not answering their questions.
Only about 40% of those who said they were unsure said that it's likely in their minds, maybe God doesn't exist, but they still even doubt that.
Nobody, almost none of the people who said they're unsure, say that, you know, God just doesn't exist.
So that has, so the rise of the nuns, as they always like to call it, has flatlined and somewhat reversed.
And we've measured this year over year, like you said.
And every year it appears to be marginal, but those nuns have fallen from a high of 24% to now around 19, 18%.
So it's on the decline.
It's just that these people don't know where to go.
That's what it comes down to.
They don't know where to go.
So they don't know who to ask.
They don't know where to pray.
They don't know where to go observe.
They just, they feel like they have no idea and they have a deep distrust of church institutions.
There have been various scandals over the years that have hurt religious identification pretty badly.
All of the research shows that.
But it doesn't mean they don't want to believe.
And it doesn't mean there's this incredible explosion of secularism.
There was, is what I'm trying.
There was once upon a time.
Now that has reversed.
As far as just the number of people who celebrate Christmas, the number who said they have no religious affiliation but celebrate this year is actually up about four points from last year, which these things don't happen in huge blocks, but we do watch the trends.
And I think this, again, I mean, the highlight of this poll every year is that I think church leaders need to remind themselves what their primary focus is.
Steve, if you're a Christian like you or I am, right?
You believe in the eternity of the soul and you believe in salvation, especially if you're a believer in Christ.
And if you said, if any of these respondents said, yes, I believe that Jesus was the Son of God, then you have a duty to go out and get those people and save them, right?
I mean, that's what this is all about.
And not every person takes it as seriously as maybe they should if they're Christians, but you know who should every day?
Church leadership.
And they're too busy at this event, you know, talking to this, what, you know, this lobbying group.
We had the head of, I've got a clip, I haven't played it yet, of the head of the Catholic bishops.
And, you know, the Catholic refugee, along with the Lutheran refugee, they're taking money hand over fist on the scam to let these refugees illegally in the country and then skim money off the top.
The bishop just sits right there.
He made a video about how he adamantly opposed President Trump's deportation plans.
Really, you know, illegal, they call them undocumented.
They're not undocumented.
These people are illegal.
Undocumented is like they didn't get their driver's license updated.
That's not this at all.
This is an illegal alien invasion.
And the Catholic, Catholic charities has been one of the worst in exacerbating this.
Let me go back because there's all this debate now: is this a Christian nation or not a Christian nation?
Your polling shows what?
What percentage of people are Christians?
And then what percentage of people are trying to have lived Christianity by regularly attending religious services or being part of a religious community or denomination?
Yeah, so here's the kicker: 80% overall say they believe in God.
Of those people, 93% say that Jesus Christ was the Son of God.
Yet, only about 40% or 45% will call themselves or identify with being Protestant or another denomination.
And about 25, upwards of 30 sometimes will call themselves Catholic.
So you have this gap, right?
Anywhere between 10, 15, sometimes it's even 20 points of people who don't want to identify with one of those traditional Christian denominations, yet are saying they believe in God.
So something is wrong.
They want, and by the way, the vast majority of them think that Jesus was the Son of God.
So this is a church failure, you know, and you have the Catholic Church who has never quite recovered from their scandal, right?
With children, we had that.
But also, they're not only out of step with Americans on an issue like immigration.
Real clear politics just did the Catholic voter poll, which showed they're out of step with their own congregation, with their own, with their own, you know, Catholic membership.
In America, Catholics have always been a bit of a thorn in the side for the Pope, right?
And the papacy and Vatican.
But they are overwhelmingly on Donald Trump side and Republican side of this issue while their leadership goes on and on about doing your Christian duty.
Well, how many illegal immigrants has the Vatican taken this year, right?
Of course, they're worried about preserving the value of their own citizenship and their identity.
It's only 600 and something citizens in the Vatican, right?
So, yeah, so are we.
And they don't seem to care because why?
Because it's money and it's big business.
And then on the other side of that, on the Protestant side of that, Steve, these people are orphaned because the truth is mainstream and evangelical Protestantism really has not recovered in the eyes of the general public since the Jimmy Swaggart and the Hagee scandals.
They view them as judgmental hypocrites.
Let's just be real.
Judgmental hypocrites who are more concerned about the politics of other nations than they are about the politics of their own.
So these people are just walking around in the wilderness looking for God and there's nobody to tend to the flock.
I mean, to that flock.
And that's a shame.
But it does highlight how God is just on the move, whether those leaders are there or not.
And that's because people are searching for something.
And I think there are fundamental truths that we've been missing in this society and people want to return to them.
This is the biggest poll on Real Clear Politics right now.
It's almost 4,000 with 3,977 to be exact.
And we have mixed modes that we reach people.
And by mixed mode, there's different ways that you data collection modes that you can reach people.
Some people are online opt-in panels.
Some people are phone and interview.
Some people are text or text to online.
We do it all, Steve.
And the reason is, and I'm going to commit pollster heresy right now, but the truth is we don't all have landlines anymore.
So the principles of randomization are not what they once were.
So different groups respond at different rates or different groups respond at different modes at different rates.
So we have to account for that.
So the way around that and the way, or at least the way to counter that and the way to deal with lower response rates that we've seen as pollsters over the years is to increase your sample.
In this case, guys, sorry, bigger really is better.
And you have to collect larger samples to account for it.
I'm sure it'll be discussed a lot around the Christmas table.
Richard Barris, the Christmas poll, does it every year.
Short break.
We're going to come back at Taj Gil Neil McKay.
We're going to talk about the Supreme Court.
Kind of a ruling against President Trump.
Haven't had a lot of those federalizing the National Guard and sending them into places like Chicago to clean out that mess and protect ICE as they do the mass deportations.
6-3.
Court says that.
Let's slow it down.
Let's slow your roll.
Mr. President, Mr. Commander-in-Chief, short break.
Okay, tomorrow for our Christmas Eve show, it will start at 10 o'clock in the morning.
We're going to be in Israel with Jason Jones.
He'll be in Bethlehem at Manger Square and in Rome at the Vatican.
Ben Harnwell will be at St. Peter's Square.
And so we will go back and forth and talk to pilgrims and tourists and officials and both.
Things are going to be great.
Couldn't be more excited about it.
I want to thank Jason Jones and his team and Ben Harnwell, who is our team.
I think he actually may be taking a cameraman.
I want to thank everybody for setting this up in Real America's Voice.
Really looking forward to it.
Don't miss tomorrow morning's show.
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Yeah, Ariel, this is a significant loss for the Trump administration.
The court had been weighing this bid since October.
This is one of those cases that came through the emergency docket.
The Trump administration had asked to allow the deployment and the federalization of the National Guard in Illinois.
Now, they've been sitting on it for a while, which caused us to speculate.
Maybe they were waiting to see whether this happened in another city and maybe there was a circuit split.
But now they've decisively ruled against the Trump administration, saying that he cannot deploy or federalize the National Guard in Illinois.
And I want to read very briefly from this ruling.
They say that the government has not carried its burden to show that the statute permits the president to federalize the guard in the exercise of inherent authority to protect the federal personnel and property in Illinois.
We need not add and do not address the reviewability of findings made by the president under the statute or any other statute.
The application is denied.
This, I want to say, also appears to be 6-3, as with regular emergency docket applications.
You don't have to get that breakdown of how the justices voted.
We know that Gorsuch, Thomas, and Alito all wrote dissenting opinions.
So it appears that it's 6-3.
It appears that Barrett and Roberts sided with the liberal justices here.
But again, this is a massive blow for the Trump administration.
So just for a second, speak about the possible wider implications of this ruling on the attempts to federalize the National Guard in other places in the country.
Yeah, the Supreme Court has now set this precedent here that the Trump administration cannot federalize or deploy the National Guard under this specific statute.
So this is a decisive victory or a decisive loss for the Trump administration.
And maybe they waited until right before Christmas to put this out.
Taj, I want to go to you first on just using the National Guard and what President Trump has done for law and order and also to protect ICE agents and federal buildings.
Because you know, we've shown it all the way from Portland and Seattle to Chicago.
I mean, it's out of control.
Just practically, how are we going to get this done if he can't if he can't federalize the National Guard and put them in there for support?
Well, I think he's just going to have to surge more ICE agents to these high-risk areas that they're contested in.
Yeah, it's definitely not a good decision to come right before Christmas, and especially in a place like Chicago, where they need the National Guard.
You see what they did in Los Angeles.
They definitely helped the National Guard there.
So if the Supreme Court's going to block the National Guard, then I think, I don't know if this is legal, but federalizing the National Guard by deputizing them and giving them federal credentials.
I don't know if that'll work, but if that doesn't, then he's just going to have to surge in ICE agents from other areas until they get this cleaned up.
And then he's just going to have to shuffle around ICE and Homeland Security agents to reinforce each other in these high-risk areas where they're actually contested by the local gangs and criminals.
I think they need to search some of the uniformed Border Patrol agents off the southern border to these high-risk areas and bring them in in armored vehicles and in their full uniform and full kit instead of rolling these guys in in civilian vehicles and they're you know in in their civilian clothes.
I think it's it's time to bring the armor in, bring full uniform border patrol agents in for short periods of time just to clean up these areas and then surge them back to the border and bring them back as needed in high-risk areas where the ICE agents are actually contested.
Let me ask you: it seems like with the ICE agents and even with Border Patrol, like Tay Shed coming up there, the evidence we've seen from now 10 months of coverage of this with Ben Berkwom and the great Real America's Voice team, and it's getting more intense, is that it is physically impossible for ICE to actually do their jobs, to do mass deportations, and even for law enforcement to kind of keep order.
You saw this in DC.
I mean, what did they expect the president to do, Neil?
Because I think you guys were telling that, hey, unless you have the Army Reserve, or unless you get to federalize the National Guard to get the Army Reserve in there, you're not going to be able to get control of these streets and particularly do the mass deportations.
Yeah, well, you also have the dynamic of the local law enforcement is under the control of the local Democratic machines.
And so the local law enforcement is slow rolling their response.
They're participating with the protesters.
They're coordinating with the protesters.
And so, you know, literally, these guys are being treated like they're an occupying force in foreign territory.
And so, you know, you can obviously the ICE agents and the border patrol agents, you know, and the other, I understand Secret Service is also involved.
You have Park Service being thrown in.
These guys, frankly, are putting on full battle rattle, and they're indistinguishable from soldiers if you look at them.
I mean, they're in helmets, they're in full kit.
And so, you know, it's like what do you got to do?
Six of one, half dozen of the other.
So we have to dress up our police officers like soldiers, or we can just use soldiers.
It's a very tricky thing, and obviously it's politically difficult for people who are dealing with Illinois and whatnot.
But if the president cannot control the military, then what are we doing here?
The party's over.
You know, the judges have no role in the military.
It just isn't in the Constitution.
There's not a lot of nuance in commander-in-chief.
It seems pretty definite.
And the idea that Jefferson Davis could have just filed for a restraining order against Lincoln, and the judge, some judge would have said, I'm sorry, Mr. Lincoln.
Well, I think that it's my understanding that despite what the cold open said, that there is some wiggle room for the government to come back and to better explain itself to the Supreme Court.
And so I think immediately John Sauer, the Solicitor General, who's excellent, he and his team, they've had tremendous success with the Supreme Court.
I was really surprised that it didn't go their way.
They just need to figure out how to do it and then just go back into the batting cage again and take a swing.
Because I think the justices, especially the even the six, even the three who betrayed us, that's supposed to be our 6-3 majority.
I think those three understand that if you damage the presidency, no matter how much you might hate or resent or bitter about Trump, if you damage the presidency, then you're really taking the republic apart.
And it's basically going to break up into pieces.
And this is something that we were worried about.
If Trump lost or they certified that Harris was president, I fully expected, you know, the southern southeastern states, there's going to be like an SEC nation, and they would just sort of from Texas to Florida and up to Tennessee, right?
They would just sort of leave.
And I think what we're seeing now with California and Illinois and certainly in Oregon and these other states, these guys are saying, hey, we're not in the federal government anymore.
We're not part of the United States.
We're just going to do it.
In 24, we saw, you know, in Maine and Colorado, where they said, we're not even going to put your candidate on our ballot.
That's how much we hate you.
And now they're saying our National Guard doesn't listen to you, doesn't take orders from you.
Last time I checked, the federal government basically finances probably 85% of those National Guard units.
I mean, those are Army soldiers.
Those are NCOs.
Those are officers.
And they all took an oath to obey the President of the United States and the Constitution.
I don't know where we go from here, but definitely Sauer needs to go back to the Supreme Court and get this fixed.
Upon their promotion, when you make sergeant or lieutenant, you have to, you know, it's the president of the United States and the officers appointed above you.
I got one more thing on the Border Patrol thing before we push the coffee.
Here's a quick solution for you, Steve.
This is, you know, when we used to deploy to these war zones, they always had all these crazy rules.
And we figured out how to work around the rules.
That's every time we go somewhere.
So here's a quick workaround for that.
So if you can't surge the border patrol to the cities and or I'm sorry, surge the National Guard to the cities, you surge the border patrol or surge the National Guard down to the border, have them backfill the Border Patrol, and then you send the Border Patrol agents up to Chicago.
That way the border is still secure.
You use your border, your National Guard down there where it's illegal to use them.
And then you take the Border Patrol and you surge those guys up to Chicago in these hotspots and have them back up the ICE agents and send them up there with armored vehicles and all that.
And if they want to do that in Chicago, that's fine because they can't stop the border patrol because they're part of Homeland Security and ICE and Border Patrol work together.
So that's an easy solution.
You just got to get it creative in these situations because the liberals and the judges are always going to push back against Trump.
They drink the coffee black the way it's supposed to be consumed.
Catherine O'Neill, I'm going to bifurcate this and do part of this in the next hour, but I got to ask you: Loomis has retired.
She's burned out.
She admits that.
Hageman's going to run for a seat out in Wyoming.
You're one of the biggest supporters of President Trump.
You've been with us from the beginning.
We're going to make an announcement here today on the war room right before Christmas Eve, ma'am.
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Hi, Steve.
I think it's wishful thinking.
I, you know, I appreciate everything that both Governor Loomis and Representative Hageman have done for Wyoming, but I will be staying right here at Meriwether Farms and raising my kid.