Episode 5017: The Take Down Of John Brennan; Freeing Tina Peters
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Yeah, not only that, his lawyers have told the chief judge in Miami that they believe their client has been named a target.
A target is defined as someone in the U.S. Attorney's Manual who is likely to be indicted.
You're supposed to get a target notification shortly before a grand jury is asked to indict you.
And so the fact that the judges confirmed this to the chief judge and then also went to the chief judge in Miami and said, hey, we want you to put the kibosh on this.
We think they're judge shopping.
They're forum shopping.
They're doing all these terrible things in Florida.
Chief Judge, please intervene and protect our clients from being indicted.
What does this letter reveal to us?
It reveals that the weaponization investigation has moved from other grand juries, including Pennsylvania, Washington, D.C., and New York, to Miami now, and most likely will be housed in Fort Pierce, Florida.
This is the grand conspiracy concept that Kash Patel wrote in that memo last year, earlier this year that you and I talked about.
For the first time, we have written evidence from one of the targets of that investigation, the former CIA director John Brennan, that these cases have been consolidated, that they've been sent to Miami.
Now, they argue this is forum shopping, that they really want Judge Eileen Cannon, the woman who dismissed one of Jack Smith's cases against President Trump.
But the truth of the matter is the reason the Justice Department has put this investigation in Fort Pierce is that one of the last acts of what Kash Patel and Pam Bondi view as a conspiracy actually occurred in Florida.
That was the raid on President Trump's home and then the subsequent prosecution that was brought there for classified documents.
So the venue isn't arbitrarily picked.
It's actually been chosen because that is where one of the more contemporaneous alleged crimes, the crimes that are still under the statute of limitations, occurred.
And therefore, you roll up all the rest of that conspiracy there.
And I just want to remind people what we talked about last week.
On that very case, that raid of President Trump's home in Mar-a-Lago in August 2022, we now know that the FBI had warned the Obama, excuse me, the Biden Justice Department, that they did not have probable cause to go and do that search, to do that raid, and the Justice Department proceeded anyways.
That is a potential civil liberties violation.
That is the sort of thing that Harmee Dylan last week on our show, just right after your show, came on and said, I think I see a conspiracy to violate President Trump's and other conservative civil liberties and I'm pursuing it that way.
That's the sort of thing that I think is now consolidating in the state of Florida.
I've very seldom seen a letter like this at any time in my 40 years covering the Justice Department and the FBI.
So there is some panic.
There's some belief that they must have an indictment forthcoming.
Now, let's think about that.
We're at the end of a calendar year.
Typically, grand juries expire at the end of December and then new ones begin in January.
Now, that's not always the case.
Sometimes a grand jury can be extended three or six months if they're working on something.
But one possibility here is that the lawyers fear that this is coming before December 31st, before the traditional expiration of grand juries in a district.
And so there seems to be an urgency to this letter.
What's interesting is there isn't a real factual dispute or defense offered of John Brennan.
It's all process, which is we don't believe this should be in Miami.
We think this is unfair.
This is forum shopping, judge shopping.
We don't like Judge Eileen Cannon.
Okay, but what about the underlying question?
We know that the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbert, and the current CIA director, John Ratcliffe, said that they had significant evidence, which they referred to the Justice Department showing that John Brennan lied in 2023 when he told Congress he wasn't trying to get the dirty, discredited Steele dossier into the intelligence community assessment that the Obama administration released just before Donald Trump became president.
That intelligence assessment, which was in fact based on the Steele dossier much more heavily than was admitted to at the time, claimed that Vladimir Putin had tried to help President Trump win the election.
In fact, the career people in the CIA and the other intelligence agencies didn't believe that.
They actually believed that Vladimir Putin had stopped his active measures in October 2023 and didn't choose a candidate that he wanted to win.
But the Obama administration wanted that outcome.
And so John Brennan testified, I didn't push to have that in, then have that steele dossier put in to get that conclusion.
In fact, John Brennan's own emails and emails of his staff suggest he did, in fact.
And so that's the evidence.
That's not really addressed in the letter by these lawyers.
They are trying to fight the process, not the actual merits of the allegation.
You've been telling us, and Mike Davis, too, be patient, this is coming, but this grand jury is going to be impaneled really starting in January as your thing, get past the end of year.
Are they doing this because they have a statue of limitation problems?
Is there something else going on in process that we don't understand that this has moved a little quicker than even you and Mike Davis told us to, hey, be patient.
Yeah, so I think at the end of the day, this case may be just a very simple case, which is he testified X, the documents show Y.
We don't need to waste time.
Let's bring the first charge here, see if maybe we can get a deal with John Brennan, have him roll on other people that might be of interest to us, or begin this prosecution and put others on notice that they may want to make a deal before they go to the John Brennan Train Express.
So prosecutors often have multiple strategies.
It isn't just one person that they're looking at.
They may be looking at other people.
We know about 30 or 40 grand jury subpoenas came out of this Miami district recently.
And so if they had a simple case and they didn't need to carry it over to next year, you start there, and then you go get the more complicated stuff starting at the beginning of a new grand jury.
But it probably also is a warning sign to other people saying, hey, do you want to go the John Brennan route?
Or you want to make a deal now and roll up?
That is a classic conspiracy racketeering strategy that prosecutors use.
Jason Kanonis is a very well-respected and very skilled lawyer, and he has a team of career prosecutors who are really, really strong conspiracy and racketeering type prosecutors.
They've done the really big, tough trials like the drug cartels and others.
And so he's got an all-star team down in Miami.
It may be why Pam Bondi chose to put it there.
And this just may be the opening salvo.
What to see?
We've got to wait and see if a grand jury will indict.
We don't know if they will.
But certainly there's been a notification, according to John Brennan's lawyers, that they think he's going to be indicted.
The game here from Brennan's point of view and the rest of these guys is that if they are going to go through this process, by hook or crook, they somehow have to get it to D.C. or Northern Virginia, correct?
Because they're going to have more amenable grand jury polls, judges, even prosecutors, but particularly a jury.
Is that their game now?
And people be focused on that, is try to move heaven and earth to get this into D.C.
It certainly seems like that is going to be the question here, a venue change.
They want to do this.
Obviously, John Brennan's testimony occurred in Washington, D.C. They'd love to be in a Washington, D.C. jury poll of 93, 94% Democrats who don't like Donald Trump.
But we'll have to wait and see.
I get the prosecution will respond and make a case-wide.
And if they view that John Brennan's lie as part of a long-term cover-up that includes being able to go after President Trump with Jack Smith later in Florida, they'll probably be given some latitude by the courts to make that case.
Obviously, the connectivity between those cases will have to be shown at some point.
But you're exactly right.
The most likely scenario here is they want to get this to a blue-blue city and not a red jury poll like Fort Pierce would ultimately provide the prosecutors.
Listen, when Donald Trump's on vacation, he's still working two full-time jobs.
Yeah, I think, listen, when he's on vacation, he's working two, five-time jobs.
He just manages to get a golf game in every so often in Mar-a-Lago.
That's it.
Yeah, it will be a busy holiday season.
You know, I think there is going to be a Fed chairman announcement soon, right?
You got that coming down.
He's working on creating, I think, what will be the largest housing reform bill since the GI Bill in the 1950s, which gave us that great boom in America during the Eisenhower years.
So I think that there are a lot of big things up his sleeve that will be coming out.
And I think also his cabinet is working full-time.
I'm trying to get an interview with Pam Bondi and some others to get some of these questions answered.
I don't think anybody's resting over the holidays.
There may be a golf game here and there, but it's going to be a busy time in Mar-a-Lago.
We're actually going to be on our Christmas Eve show tomorrow.
We're going to be in both Bethlehem with Jason Jones, and we're going to be at the Vatican in Rome with Ben Harnwell.
Some more on that later.
Also, the president tonight, I think it's 8 o'clock on CBS.
At the Kennedy Center, I want to make sure we pile in that, get some great ratings.
It's going to be fun.
President Trump as the master of ceremonies and is pretty open this morning on True Social.
He wants us to judge how he does.
So let's do that.
We go from the grand conspiracy against President Trump and the MAGA movement now proceeding to a criminal grand jury in South Florida to the number one political prisoner in the world.
And that would be Tina Peters in a maximum security woman's prison in Colorado.
Her lawyer, John Case, joins us.
John, my understanding is that you've got some big legal maneuvers that are coming today or tomorrow, sir.
We are going to file a motion in a court in Colorado that will prove that President Trump has the power under the U.S. Constitution to pardon Tina Peters and also that she is immune from prosecution because she was performing a federal duty to preserve election records.
And that's why they charged her is because she preserved the records they don't want anyone to see.
But typically, when people have made a mistake and they've bet a lot on it, they don't want to publicly announce they made a mistake.
And in this case, the governor, the Secretary of State, and the Colorado Attorney General have bet the farm that they can keep Tina Peters locked up for nine years, despite the fact that she didn't commit a crime.
And the judge who sentenced her told her that he was putting her in prison for nine years because of the things that he personally disagreed with, the things she was saying, criticizing the voting system in Colorado.
That's why she's in prison because of her speech.
She criticized the voting system, and the judge said you get nine years.
You are going to file today or tomorrow in, I guess, federal court, and you're going to, this is challenging Colorado, let's be blunt, just blowing off the president, the Bureau of Prisons, Department of Justice, and this presidential pardon.
Can you give us an update?
Because I think one of the reasons people are so concerned here and they wanted something around Christmas was the condition of Tina Peters and maybe the deteriorating condition of Tina Peters and her and the condition she's held in, sir.
She has a cough that she's had since August, and at times she's extremely fatigued.
And it's not just her, Steve, it's every inmate at that facility.
The regulation for temperature, for example, is that indoor air temperatures must be at least 61 degrees during the coldest months and less than 86 degrees in the warmest months.
And that's mandatory.
The temperature in Tina's unit yesterday morning was 96.3 degrees.
That is sweltering.
And she told me yesterday in the afternoon that it was even hotter.
They wouldn't tell the women what the temperature was.
They had one fan for several cells so that the women would have to take turns using the fan.
One of the guards told one of the inmates that if she and her roommate complained about it anymore, they could be charged with inciting a riot.
La Vista is the only facility that doesn't in Colorado, the only Colorado prison that won't allow video visits with family.
It is the facility, La Vista, is not designed for minimum security prisoners like Tina.
She's a level one.
That's minimum security for people who have no prior offenses and are not violent.
So she belongs in a level one facility.
But Colorado doesn't have any level one facilities for women.
That seems like discrimination based solely on gender.
This facility is not maintained.
When the DOJ came in to inspect it last week, before the inspection, the inmates were forced to work 16 hours a day scrubbing walls, painting over the mold, replacing tiles that had fallen off.
And the DOJ apparently took note of a lot of those violations of state regulations.
I just wanted to mention, Steve, in closing, that Governor Polis can solve this problem.
The Department of the Federal Bureau of Prisons made an offer to Governor Polis to take Tina Peters out of state custody and put her in a minimum security facility where she belongs.
He refused.
On December 16th, Governor Polis said in a public statement, Tina Peters should get the same treatment as other inmates.
Well, I'd like to mention one other inmate and the treatment that he got.
In 2021, Governor Polis commuted the sentence of a man who killed four people by driving recklessly.
Governor Polis commuted the sentence of that man 90%.
90% of his sentence was commuted by the governor.
So if he would do that for Tina Peters, she'd be out today.
And that would be equal treatment with the gentleman whose sentence he commuted.
And in fact, we got two actually stats this morning.
The Visa news on one end, which is very helpful.
And then we got Q3 numbers for the economy on the other.
That actually just came out at 8:30 this morning and overshot by a large expectation.
We were supposed to get that number, by the way, back in October, but because of what was happening with the government shutdown and the other issues, we didn't.
But nonetheless, that number is huge.
4.3% on GDP.
So you have, I think, what looks increasingly like a surprisingly healthy economy.
Actually, perhaps more healthy than we've given it credit for.
Andrew, if you do need a caveat here, and I'm sure we'll figure this out later, but I know a lot of spending has been driven by the richest of the rich, and that's artificially pushed that number up.
So we'll have to sort through this.
But if that 4% is broad-based, that's really good news.
And I know many may question data gathering, but on the surface, this would be the strongest quarter going back to the third quarter of 2023 when it was 4.7.
This is strong.
3.5 on consumption blows away the 2.7 we were expecting.
That would be the best since the last quarter of 24 on the price index.
We're doing the same drill, but it's on steroids, right?
We've got the tax cut, big, beautiful bill coming.
Now, what does that mean?
You got 100% expensive.
That's huge.
So you got a lot of investment taking place driving growth.
You've got what is going to be the biggest refund for the middle class and blue-collar workers at tax time that we've ever seen in history.
And I'm not going hyperbole here.
I'm just pointing out what they're doing is they're collecting the money from people by the old rules, like as if the tax bill hadn't been.
And so we're going to unleash that in the refund when the time came.
So that's working.
Steve, the price of oil is down from 75 bucks a barrel, back down to below 60.
That pushes on not just through transportation and gas prices, which are below two bucks now in some places, but it's food as well, because fertilizer is made from petroleum and fertilizer is probably the highest cost input.
So that's working.
We got trade policy bringing in a bunch of investment from abroad, literally trillions of dollars.
And I do want to thank Peter and the team with President Trudeau that gave in the Navy Phelan, all of them.
That announcement yesterday was just magnificent.
Had.
If you haven't seen it, our coverage last night with Jim Finnell and Ermel Masso was spectacular.
I thought spectacular.
Go through the complexities of the shipbuilding program what, how monumental.
This is another driving effort of President Trump.
At at Amfest, what I said was we're going to have the hardest year possible coming in front of us political warfare, and the reason for that is the economy is going to turn.
You can already see it.
This is why we've been.
So it's the war room sitting there going.
Hey, it's the.
It's the capital expenditures and the depreciation and the write-offs of the big, beautiful bill.
We made a bet folks, and and Navarro and uh and um Greers and and uh Besant working on these tariffs to drive as a forcing function, drive capital expenditure back here.
That's going to happen in the first quarter two next year.
And now Axios and others picked up, hey hey, all magazine like looking through rose-tinted glasses for um, for 26.
But you can see it already, and Navarro nailed it, this is like a replay of the first term, where you had the 27 and 28 and you had this kind of these uh, green sprouts.
You see what president Trump was doing with his economic program there.
That led to the blowout year of 2019, particularly the second half of 2019, when everything was at low interest rates, no inflation um, you know, blue collar jobs I had a wages increase ahead of white collar, non-college graduates over college graduates, everything until the Chinese Chemist Party dropped a bioweapon on us.
Uh, but I I I will talk about that at another time.
You're seeing it here now and part of what you're seeing already is the animal spirits, because the big, beautiful bill had not kicked in the third quarter.
But you could see the entrepreneurs, you could see even the tech bros, you could see Corporate America and people getting ready to get ready to pull the trigger on those plants right away and start building, and the animal spirits of entrepreneurs.
And this was a blowout number today.
I mean, look at Morning Joe just sitting there with Andrew Ross.
So I go, hang on a second, hang on, a second, hang on.
It's all.
It's all the wealthy just doing this, which is a lie.
My point, as the economy gets better, you take out the number one tool they think they're going to club us with.
They're going to be like a wounded animal.
This is going to be so dangerous.
You watch they're, they're dangerous people.
Uh, they have a dangerous ideology.
They think political violence works.
You have to ask yourself the question, does it right?
Are you holding back?
Are you not going to things?
Or are people not going out to these events because they're worry about it?
That that means it's working.
The Democrats are going to get more and more dangerous as the economy improves, and the economy is improving and you're seeing now the animal spirits.
Mike Davis, the viceroy, joins us.
So viceroy, in order, i've teed you all up for this.
Okay, I started with.
I started with Solomon and the breaking news on Brennan, which you've been telling us from day one.
Yeah, so Ken Weinstein was the George W. Bush head of the National Security Division.
I know him, and he is representing Brennan in this case.
And he fired off a letter name-checking me saying that I'm leaking grand jury information.
I would say to Ken Weinstein that that is categorically false, it's defamatory, and it's desperate.
And I actually thought that Ken was a better lawyer than this, but apparently not.
And he's obviously picked sides here.
He's going to represent the lawfare Democrats when they politicized and weaponized our intel agencies and law enforcement to go after Trump, his top aides, his allies.
I'm surprised that Mayor Brown, the law firm, wants to be involved in this mess.
So maybe someone like Boris Epstein can take a look at Mayor Brown on this.
Yeah, the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, or CFIAS, is an interagency government body chaired by the Treasury Secretary that looks at transactions, whether they're financial transactions or real estate transactions, to look at them from a national security perspective.
And we had back in 2005, SmartMatic announced a combination or acquisition of Sequoia.
And then back in 2006 and 2007, Congress, on a bipartisan basis, raised national security concerns.
And so CFIAS reviewed the deal.
The parties withdrew from review and SmartMatic divested Sequoia.
What we want right now is for the Trump administration to declassify and make public this CFIAS review of SmartMatic and Sequoia back in 2005, 2006, 2007.
Time has long passed, so they can't claim sources and methods, but we want to know what was Congress concerned about with these voting machines from a national security perspective that Congress on a bipartisan basis asked for a CFIAS review.
So if there were national security concerns about our election machines, critical infrastructure, I think the public has a right to know.
Do we have foreign governments like Venezuela, for example, tampering with these voting machines?
Is that when you say we're going to do it, the Warren Posse will be up and go over Article 3?
Do we need to direct that to Secretary Besson, or is that something more that's Christy Noam's area or would it be a Secretary Noam or would it be over to Tulsi Gabbard?
We will hold off until you get back to us and then we'll get everybody to go to Article 3, et cetera.
Last but not least, and I'm going to have Joe Allen on a little later because I know you've been working on this nonstop.
Mediate has an article, and I think if I haven't put it up, I'm going to put it up in a while, that talks about Fabrizio, the president's pollster, doing polling looking to 2026.
And he comes up with this idea that the single biggest issue could be next to the economy, the next biggest issue, and kind of overwhelms even the economy about how it's lopsided, is wait for it, artificial intelligence.
And particularly, American citizens, MAGA, Republicans, conservatives, Independents, Democrats, moderate Democrats, kind of what we call the American people, are sitting there going, hey, I don't really understand this thing, but I don't see where we have controls over like for our children and a whole host of things.
And the spread's like huge.
It's like eight points or 10 points.
But he's putting it in a way that like we're fighting for all these states to get in and woke and the tech bros are going to be the heroes because they're looking for federal regulations.
Nothing could be farther from the truth.
The tech bros wanted no regulations at all.
They twice tried to slide in amnesty and got crushed and they face planted.
Now they're begrudgingly going to work with people, put it in.
I just want you to put it in perspective.
We now know from pollsters, and I'm hearing other pollsters coming in and saying this is a massive issue with the American people and they don't want over-regulation, but they're not prepared to let the tech bros just run wild.
Can you talk to me briefly about where we stand in all this process and trying to work and make sure we get at least some regulatory apparatus, at least around the four C's?
And I would love to see more, but around the four C's, sir?
He should thank the Article III project and the war room posse from saving him, for saving him from making a very bad decision by following the tech bros' advice and doing AI amnesty and the big beautiful bill that we crushed at 99 to 1, including the lead sponsor, Ted Cruz, voting against his own bill at 4 o'clock in the morning.
And then they tried to do it again, this AI amnesty and the National Defense Authorization Act or the NDAA, and we stopped that.
We got the tech bro, we forced the tech bros to the table and forced them to embrace the four Cs.
If you're going to get federal preemption, you're not going to have amnesty.
So you're going to make sure we protect children, conservatives, creators, and communities.
And that has President Trump included the four Cs in his executive order.
And again, he should be thankful because if they would have jammed through this AI amnesty and the big beautiful bill or the NDAA, and we would have seen, for example, states can't regulate teddy bears that speak sexually explicitly to children through AI pedo bears.
If states can't regulate that, if states can't regulate water bills and energy bills going through the roof on everyday Americans, real Americans in real America to subsidize these AI energy facilities, there would be big problems for President Trump and Republicans in this next election.
Well, first off, DeSantis guys were going to do it anyway, and they're putting up some pretty sensible things.
So you had some people that are thinking this through, unlike Ted Cruz, thinking about this.
But the president would have been jammed.
This is what we kept saying.
This is so one-sided where the American people are.
And the American people don't know all the details, but they don't like what they see so far.
So he would have been jammed up by the tech bros, particularly people that gave him such bad guidance.
President Trump doesn't lose on Capitol Hill.
When he puts his muscle into something, it happens.
The tech bros twice, once in the Big Beautiful Bill, which was must pass for the Trump administration, and then on the NDAA, which is must pass for Capitol Hill, twice the same exact thing.
That was the arrogance of it.
Total flace pay.
In fact, they didn't even get it to a vote the second time.
The Armed Services Committee in the House and the Senate go, no, we're pulling it out of here.
We try to hide it.
We're pulling that.
It's lost momentum, I think.
Their term was.
If that had gone through, the president would have been jammed up.
And Fabrizio tells you this.
Now he's trying to change the narrative, but it would have been jammed up.
This thing can be worked out.
And so, Mike, to go to Article 3, two big things.
You've got everything that's going on now with Brennan and the conspiracy of weaponization against President Trump.
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