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Episode 4990: Mike Lindell Announces Run For Governor Of Minnesota
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steve bannon
This is the final scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot.
All these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banff.
steve bannon
It's Thursday, 11 December in the year of our Lord, 2025.
As we've been documenting for you, this basically fiasco in our country about illegal immigration, about invasion of our country and what it needs.
what we need to do to sort it out.
The beating heart of that right now is Minneapolis, Minnesota, with what's happened there over the last decade or so.
A very important announcement from the factory floor of MyPillow, one of the great entrepreneurial companies in this country from one of our greatest entrepreneurs and a MAGA stalwart.
Mike Lindell joins us.
Mike, the floor is yours, sir.
mike lindell
Well, I'm going to give everybody a speech right now.
If you guys, many of you already know me, you know that I was a track company addict along with many other addictions.
And you also know that by the praise of God that I have received my addiction to drugs on January 16, 2009.
You also know that I founded the Lindelby Company Network to help others overcome their addictions.
You know that I founded the amazing successful company, MyPillow.
You know that My Pillow and myself have spent billions fighting aims of 13 victims, flood victims, fire victims, struggling inner cities, and of course those struggling with drug addiction.
I was the media darling.
They'd say, Mike, how many infirmary addicts are you hiring?
How many dentists are you hiring?
And they would say, wow, you're talking to the American dream on steroids.
And then in the summer of 2016, I met Donald Trump on August 15, 2016.
steve bannon
He's a divine appointment.
mike lindell
He reached out to me to discuss how I pillow how it's a big show you're funds for the USA.
And from that point on, the media turned on here.
unidentified
Of course, you all know the story.
mike lindell
They've been trapped ever since.
And you also know that on February 18, 2017, I gave my life to Jesus Christ.
I had a few months later, I've been hunting meeting 50,000 people in prayer at U.S. Ages Penny.
I thought that was going to be my voted.
I can think politics patterns.
Then along came the 2020 election.
And you all know that I have been profligate making people aware of the fraud in our elections.
We know that others have here to tear me down because of my efforts.
Our own federal government, Joe Biden, have launched Operation Arctic Trust to target me and others who wanted to secure our elections.
They tried to take away my place.
They targeted my banks.
They targeted my suppliers.
They even took my phone.
And I run my entire business off the enterprise off my phone.
And they didn't just attack me.
They also went out for my employee by the well, it's in work.
I'm still standing.
My pillow is still standing.
And now I want you to know that I will stand for you as the next governor of the state of Minnesota.
I will stand for you.
The rampant fraud under Governor Waltz.
I will stand with you against farm that threatens the safety of your family.
I will stand for you against government-sponsored family providing exploding property taxes, excessive fees, and unfair sales tax.
I'll stand for you against unnecessary regulation that strangle the controversial spirit.
I will stand for businesses of all sizes, small, medium, large.
Doesn't matter.
We need to defend those who provide our citizens to the child that they need to protect and to take care of our families.
I will stand for those of you that are struggling with addiction.
I will stand for you by making Minnesota's education system one of the best nations.
I am not alone in standing for you.
I've never been alone.
My Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, has been standing beside me all the way.
Through the good times and the bad, he's never let me down.
And with God's grace, I will never let you down either.
Those who know me, they know I'm up to the task.
I've had my finger on my false operations, and we've all heard the rampant fraud on the watch of Jim Wallets.
Either he was grossly magnificent in Palmy or fraud.
The governor is the chief executive of the state.
He is responsible for the integrity of government operations under his authority.
Everyone who knows me knows that I micromanage and macromanage my companies.
I've worked tirelessly in making sure that people opposite.
What does Tim Waltz know about the operation of Minnesota's government programs?
We know that over $1 billion in fraud under his watch has already been found with support from Minnesota indicate that that fraud may reach as high as $8 billion.
The entire fiscal year, Minnesota's budget is 2025 and 59 billion.
The price of our state government has been complained to the spot.
This means that families are paying too much for government.
Families have been taken advantage of and others have not been taken care of.
This means that businesses are trained all the financial resources they need to hire employees to invest in new products and to modernize existing operations.
When it was linked to the media that I was filing to front for Governor Minnesota, the right year that leaked the media funding sport victim made comments like, what does Mike know about being a politician?
Let me be clear, I don't want to be like a politician.
It's professional politicians that have gotten us into all this problem.
Over the last five years, I have traveled all across this country to speak with wallet sessions about election fraud.
I've come to the conclusion that the vast majority of politicians are tired with our best interests.
Their concern is special interest, including their own self-interest.
Many have given agendas that don't know any of us.
And usually they're evil agendas.
I'm going to be a leader on a politician.
I'm going to solve problems, not create problems.
This is what I do.
I will solve my solve problem.
That's what I've always done.
I've lived the American dream on stair rights, solving one problem after another on a couple of success.
The goal of government is to secure the rights of the government.
As a citizen and a business leader, I've already been working towards that end.
I've been working to secure our place at the against powerful enemies.
These enemies don't care what you have to say.
I do.
They want to silence our voices.
I put everything on the sides for preserving.
As the next governor of Minnesota, I will stand for your rights.
Together, we will restore respect for your legally.
Now's the time to make for you to be sent back on your game fund.
If you're stealing from Minnesota taxpayers, you need to be put in prison.
If you're committed to increasing the tax burning on Minnesota, you need to find a new site for it.
We need to stop the explosion of property taxes.
We need to stop excessive fees.
We need to stop penalizing the brick and mortar businesses that provide shops for our family.
We need to ensure that our parents and teachers are empowered with the ability to choose the best education options for our kids.
In short, we need to make government more about your needs and about your quality of life.
Create the power to tell us how to live our life.
This means that you need a voice.
They tried to take away my voice.
They tried to take away your voice.
We can't let this happen again.
That's why I'm standing for you.
I'm standing for all of our god-given rights.
The right to life, the right to liberty, the right to happiness.
The purpose of government is to secure these rights.
Governor Waltz and his supporters have instead been stealing these rights.
This step, this fraud needs to end now.
If you will stand with me as the next governor of Minnesota, our future will be amazing.
steve bannon
Lindell, here's the question is that why you and why now?
You've gone through and the company has gone through hell over the last couple of years.
I've never seen a fighter like you.
You led your company so far back to turn it around.
What compels you that you must do this now, that you must get into politics now?
mike lindell
Well, see, first of all, I wanted to make sure my pillow was secure and stable before I moved on because my pillow has been the most attacked company in history.
And as you see, you're still standing.
And this know that they're without me, that they're going to keep going and they will press on.
That's one of the greatest Americans, made in the USA stories ever.
And then I watch right now, I watch what's happening in Minnesota, you know, this fraud they failed all the way back to 2000, you know, and it just keeps getting worse and more magnified.
The government we have here is disgusting.
They're leading us that nonsensical past going.
And I see year after year now, things don't change, they get worse and worse.
And it's kind of like this thing, don't stay with you.
If you want something done right, you do it yourself.
I don't trust anyone else to get this job done.
You know, I've a pumping track record of what I've came out of, what I've felt, solving problems.
And right now, Minnesota is the tip of the spear for our country.
I believe it's such.
Right now, we're like the Trojan horse.
I mean, we're like the trophs of the fraud, the crime, the everything.
They talk about, you know, all the nonsensical things that, like I said in my speech, that the government does things where government officials make decisions that don't help us all as individuals, whether we're a Democrat, Republican, conservative, or liberal.
If it doesn't help anybody, it's a hidden agenda.
And it's a very evil agenda.
Steve, I've been all over this country four and a half years meeting with politicians, trying to secure our elections.
I put hundreds and hundreds of hours lying around to meet Attorney General, Secretary of State, Congressman, all these politicians.
And one after another, you get blocked and you're going to buy things that don't make sense.
When you look at deviations, if they don't make sense, they're like you say, there's a good agenda.
Minnesota moving on.
This is the last chance, I believe, that Minnesota that we have in Minnesota.
You know, I think it's what became worse than California.
These nonsensical things.
I mean, Tim Waltz has led the charge for nonsense, for complete nonsense.
Something a few years ago, we would have thought, why?
I mean, you've got to realize that backing up back in the virus, the China virus, Tim Waltz would let us have, I think it was eight people in our house for Thanksgiving, or if you had one in the neighborhood to turn you in for, and you get 90 days in jail.
And then we could have 12 for they or for Christmas.
I mean, these things have been making sense.
And now that we just see all this fraud, like I said, either he is, let's just say for a minute that he's completely negligent.
I mean, he doesn't know anybody.
Completely plausible deniability.
He doesn't know a thing about the fraud.
But you're the governor.
You should be watching everything that goes out of the state.
And if you see a deviation in numbers, I mean, you're trying to miss $8 billion.
You've got to look into it.
You've got to find out why.
So there's many reasons.
I think it came to a head this, you know, I've been thinking about it for a long time.
Right before the 2020 election, I was going to run in to come out there and run for governor in 22 and as I said, you know, I figured I had to get out there and secure our elections.
And which, by the way, we've got great progress in that too.
But I guess I love my state.
I love the country.
I love people.
And the stuff that I was doing before, when I came out of addiction, like maybe downtown Minneapolis, but all my friends down there that I had pulled them out of addiction.
We spent millions of dollars helping inner city addicts come out of addiction with the Lindell Recovery Network, Health Change Challenge, Salvation Army, all these things.
This is where this is where I want to be.
It's problem solution.
And right now, you look down to Minneapolis and it's a shame.
You see empty buildings.
You see our retailers and they surround the country too.
You see empty retailers, empty buildings.
People are in fear, no police.
I mean, there are little police.
So these things, I have great, I have great things in store.
And not just ideas, but they're all laid out of the solutions to all of this problem.
unidentified
And that's where I'm going to go.
steve bannon
Here's okay.
Let me let me take this maybe a different angle of this so people fully understand why you're doing this.
On the morning of the election of November 3rd of 2024, if you looked at the polling and you looked at the way the media was playing it, by midnight that night, Waltz would have been vice president of the United States.
Why now do you believe he should not be governor again?
He came so close to actually being vice president, and they supposedly did due diligence on it, do due diligence on him at the time.
Why is it now that you feel that you need to basically walk away from your company to go to the people of Minnesota and saying he needs to be replaced and he needs to be replaced by me, sir?
Right.
mike lindell
Well, for one thing, what a blessing it was that he ran for vice president because the whole country got to see what he really is.
And I feel right now, you know, if we don't, I think we get one shot at this, one shot, and I don't, and I believe, well, I know that I'm the best person for the job.
I have faced adversity.
I have faced things.
People, I don't believe anyone's faced so many things where I've had to be able to problem solution and then building things from scratch, new things and new ideas.
He's not qualified.
He has never been qualified.
This guy is a terrible, terrible governor.
But these nonsensical things and bringing us down a different path.
And it's too late for him to pull back now, like he did, you know, say it, you know, trying to say, I didn't know about that.
And I didn't know about this.
We in Minnesota knew what was happening.
You know, and I have a little history with him.
When I was making masks here at my pillow, and we had bought millions of dollars with the masks, and this before I knew they didn't work, right?
And before the 2020 election, everybody, just to show you how he is, they reached out and said, does anybody have masks in the state?
We need masks.
And I said, you know what?
I'll donate them free, millions of dollars worth.
This was like three or four weeks before the 2020 election.
And his office said, no, we're not taking them from Mike Lindell until after the election, because I was so branded with Donald Trump.
And I said, you know, if you do that, I said, I'm going public with it.
You said you need masks.
I'm giving them to you free.
But then they said, okay, we'll do it.
But you got all the media has to be a block away.
And they put just things like this.
But what he's done to our state is destroying it.
You're destroying it from within.
I mean, you can go right down the line.
Education, you can go the inner city.
Not the fraud.
I mean, the list goes on and on.
And he hasn't fixed anything.
We had billions of dollars in surplus and now we're negative in Minnesota.
I mean, we're negative.
It's all more.
And it's for an agenda that they have.
It's just, I don't even know if you call it a woke agenda.
It's bizarre.
The stuff that he comes up with.
And his only thing, Steve, is Donald Trump this and Donald Trump that.
And instead of addressing all these problems we have here in Minnesota.
So I think the time is now.
I don't think any, I don't think, you know, it comes down to it.
I've seen other people run.
They don't win.
I don't think if we don't win, we have to win this next election against him.
And we have one shot of him.
And I think I'm the only one that can get that done.
I don't think that would just, I will pull.
One of the things, too, Steve, is I will pull definitely get everybody out to vote.
There's 2000 or 2000, I think, 2,633 towns and cities in Minnesota.
I will be going to every single one that I can go to.
I will be traveling nonstop to get the people out to vote.
Number one, this midterm election is the most important in history.
And then also, I'll be able to pull inner city, just like I went to Chicago for the Democrat Convention last year.
And me and Mayor Rudy Giuliani went to the inner city.
We talked to the blacks and Hispanics that were up here legally that we live here.
And they said, what's your biggest, what's your biggest, who are you voting for?
And all of them went, well, again, this time we're going to vote for Donald Trump.
And we said, why?
A lot of them didn't even like it, but they said, why?
And they said the number one reason was the illegals were taking all of their resources, including their treatment centers full of them, their hotels, their health care, all this stuff.
And that's where you have in Minneapolis.
You have these things going on in every big city.
Well, Steve, I was already involved with many things in the inner city.
And you have elections.
If things, if things don't change, you need a different input to get a different output.
I think we all agree on that and um.
So, and right now, and then also in Minnesota um, you can look into something that's really dear to my heart, when you run for office, you can also um go and make sure the voting machines are not um the source code and that they're uh up to standard, which none of them will be and um, being here, Amy Klobenshar she was the first one, the one of the first ones, that said the voting machines got to go and then we'll be kill.
Shame and um.
So I look forward to getting in and talking to her.
I think there's a lot of things that can be worked together to make Minnesota between uh um some, some of the Democrats that might still have uh some common sense to work together with me.
steve bannon
Yeah high highly, highly unlikely on that, but you can try uh, people don't.
I know you because i've seen you behind the scenes and what you've had to do to save your company and what you've had to do uh to make sure that your employees uh not just have great paychecks but bonuses and uh and a fulfilling life.
I've seen the assaults that you've been under and the attacks you've been under, nonstop talk, particularly Minnesotans that really have just seen you as an entrepreneur.
Give me a couple of examples to the folks out there about your inner strength, what you've had to overcome, some of it that you brought on yourself but that makes it more powerful you had to overcome.
Walk me through two or three of the biggest tasks you've ever had in your life and how you've overcome them.
mike lindell
Well, one was definitely uh, when I was a crack cocaine addict and uh living, you know, a lot of times in the streets and um got, you know, got freed me of that on january 16, 2009.
And uh, even you know, and so even the drug dealers did an intervention on me and they said, downtown Minneapolis, I uh, i've been up for days, 14 days tonight and I come out of the drone and they go, throw three standing there, my drug dealers, and they go.
They go um, I go, what's this?
They go, we need you to.
Um, we're cutting you off.
You've been for days.
And I said, what is this an intervention?
They said, call whatever you want, like well 2, 30 in the morning I went down to the streets and the guy stayed up to watch me until I ran out of trap and then he fell asleep.
So I head down the streets of Minneapolis.
I went out trying to buy the account.
The word out, don't sell to him.
I came back up at 2, 30 in the morning and he was waiting up for me.
He goes, how'd that work out for you?
And I was all upset he said.
He said man, you've been telling us for years you're going to quit your addictions and you're going to come back and help us out of this drug and drug world we're living in.
And I was their hope, Steve.
And he he um, he took a picture.
He said, here you're going to need this picture for that book you've all used, told us in the right, which is no, it's capable tuition, what are the odds?
From crack addicts to ceo?
And, by by the way, two of those guys work for me.
They're born again Christians now.
So there's a to overcome that addiction.
When God freed me of that addiction, that was a good thing.
And the um.
And then the other thing too is is, you know, my pillow has been overcome.
We've had to overcome the last five years the biggest attack on a company in history, no company's been attacked.
It started out with the box stores canceling us because right after the right after the uh 2020 election and when it got into january, I had evidence of fraud that trans evidence of fraud in the 2020 election, and then I started speaking out against the voting machine and the UM going to paper balance growth.
My company got attacked.
I mean, they took them even not just wildfire, but they got attacked and we lost 200 million dollars in box stores right out of the gate.
And then it's like two years later, the machine companies just passed the hat to our own government, where the DOJ under Arctic cross everybody, the DOJ um, the UH.
The FBI, the IRS, and three other entities went all in attacking my pillow.
And we've been able to survive that.
We've been de-banked, de-banked, demerchant service.
They reached out, our own government reached out to our vendors and said, don't do business with my pillow.
They've attacked us so much, Steve, every day.
And these employees here, they don't deserve that.
unidentified
They never did anything.
mike lindell
It's made in the USA.
These guys have families.
And my pillow, you know, was able to survive by the grace of God.
That's been one of the hardest things.
That's why I've been over the last year and a half.
I wake up every day and here with my company and work so hard to keep, as they keep getting attacked to keep the ship going.
And so I've been in two different places where I built a company from the ground up.
Nobody ever handed me anything.
And I did it without basically without banks.
We're not going to, we're not going to loan money to them.
Oh, you made a pillow, but good for you.
And so, and then also to solve the problems, you know, and my pillow, almost every employee has my direct phone number.
And we work on direct, we work on deviations and blocks.
If they see a deviation, if one of these employees on the line seen that one pillow was off or there was something wrong, they would call me and immediately any deviation off their block because I want to know I'm already making decisions that everything is going very smooth and it's worked really great at my pillow and leave.
But that's been, it's been really hard.
And then the other, I guess, other things is myself, you know, being attacked for, we're just, when I believe in something, I don't ever back down.
And, you know, I believe that we have to secure our elections.
When I met Donald Trump in the summer of 2016, I was the media's darling.
They're all sitting here right now.
I'm looking at them.
They would come here every day to my pillow going, how many veterans are you hiring, Mike?
Wow, you gave millions of dollars to Hurricane Harvey or you gave me all this.
Boy, how many former addicts are you hiring?
You keep giving people second chances.
And boy, everything changed after I met our great president, Donald Trump.
I met him by an appointment.
I met him.
And they said, but they said, Mike, no, you're never going to, we're not going to meet him alone.
And whatever you do, don't tell him you were a crack addict.
Well, that's the first thing I did.
I said, we were alone.
And I said, you know, I used to be a crack addict.
unidentified
And I said, and he said, he said, Mike, you know, it was just him and I.
mike lindell
And he said, you know, and I said, I'm sure I'm going to have what's called the Lindale Recovery Network to help all people.
And he said, I'm going to shut down the board and stop the trucks for it.
And we sat and talked.
And he wanted to know there was no agenda other than he wanted.
He was asking this guy from Minnesota, this entrepreneur.
I never got involved in politics, never voted in my life, but he wanted to know how it was like manufacturing here.
And I told him the problems of doing stuff overseas.
And we went through all that.
And I was in there for probably a half hour.
And at that time, I go, wow, this guy would be a great president.
I've never met a president to me.
I've never been.
I didn't even think I'd get within 10 feet of the White House, but by half.
But anyway, I went back to, I went and talked to his employees.
I went and talked my wife to me.
We went and talked to his employees.
And I go, I go, because I wanted to find out the guy that I met there if this was real.
And everyone I talked to said, you know, great man, great boss.
And interesting enough, he had done something for them individually.
All the ones we had talked to.
And you can learn a lot about a leader, about how they're employees.
You couldn't find any in the 2020, 2016 election in my dad mom, even though the media's fine.
So I got back to Minnesota here and I go, I did a press release.
I didn't even say what we talked about.
You guys, this is August of 2016.
unidentified
I did this press release and the media turned on me.
mike lindell
They're all standing here right now.
They turned on me like, what did I do wrong?
And they put out these false things.
They attacked my pillow.
They took my rating from A plus to an F and my pillow, the better business bureau, the corrupt better business bureau.
And which by the way, is still an F, everybody.
That's just fantastic.
And so, you know, this been, when I say that was hard to overcome, we've had, it's been eight years, eight to ten years, eight, nine years now.
It's been an ongoing battle and we still have a one.
Yeah, we Steve.
I pray that the media of this country will go back to being journalists instead of just attaching.
Can you hear that, you guys?
They're all looking at me smiling.
You know, I'm going to see how this comes out.
And I'm announcing the run for governor.
I will make a great governor.
I never stop.
I work 18 hours a day.
We need to save Minnesota.
We need to secure our families.
You know, Waltz made a comment about two months ago, I believe.
He got rumors I was running.
And he said, we don't want Mike Lindell and Donald Trump coming into our state and ruining our family values.
I got news for him.
I've lived here, was born and raised here all my life.
And I said, I'm all for the family, or that he would even think of it.
It's like it was a disgusting thing, except.
steve bannon
Mike, just hang on for one second.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to return.
Historic today on the factory floor of my pillow, one of the great entrepreneurial companies in this country that have been under constant assault for five years.
Mike Lindell just announced he's running for the Republican nomination for governor.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
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Open your mind to see.
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Holy water.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
Okay, major news out of Minnesota just moments ago.
Mike Lindell, say he's going to take on Tim Walz to be governor of Minnesota.
This couldn't be a more important time to discuss this because Minnesota is, I think, the key that picks the lock on what's been going on about this illegal immigration and about getting people in here and naturalizing them without actually getting down to the bottom.
Do they really have allegiance to the United States?
Are they loyal to the United States?
This scandal, which Mike Lindell had just said in his opening announcement, is a billion dollars.
I actually think people can talk to you about it being $8 billion.
Stephen Miller continues to say that it could be the scandal that unravels everything.
So the question has to be: how did someone who came so close now by the evening of November 3rd, it was a blowout and it finished at, you know, what, 10 or 11 o'clock at night?
Really, we knew that that's when it was over.
But leading up to that, with the fake news and the polls, Waltz that morning looked like he was going to be, by the evening, the vice president-elect of the United States.
And that's what they all thought.
So how do we get so far into a process?
You got all the jackals in the media there today to go and try to pick on the carcass of Mike Lindell because the attacks are going to be intense.
In fact, they've already started to put them up in all the usual places, the Huffington Posts and all the places that follow Mike Lindell's every move so closely.
The question gets to be: how did everybody miss some basic due diligence here on Waltz and what was going on in Minneapolis and in Minnesota?
This situation with the situation is this is pretty extraordinary.
And Mike Lindell, I'm sure is going to drill down on that.
Mike, here's a question: your intensity, your urgency as far as making sure the company's taken care of, but also you've been involved in election integrity on other issues related to MAGA around the country.
The people in Minnesota, most people who don't follow politics that closely, what they want is competence in government.
They want leadership in government.
And I'm sure that most of those folks right now are as shocked or more shocked than anybody of what's happening in their state.
I mean, they've had this feeling, I know, with the Somalians for a while, but the level of fraud and really open fraud is this was not that tough to get to.
What is your commitment to the people in Minnesota about getting to the bottom of this and getting back to kind of good, solid government that you're going to allow entrepreneurs to flourish?
You're going to allow families to first, this basic blocking and tackling you have to do as governor to make sure that people can live the lives that they want to lead, sir.
mike lindell
Well, first of all, Steve, and you've known me for years, I'll be the most transparent governor this country's ever seen.
I got all the media right here.
They have my direct, direct line, direct contact.
I tell the people, I would tell they will know everything that I know, and I will dig in when there's deviations, whether it's fraud or anything else that's nonsensical or problem.
What you do, it needs to be run like a company.
That's what this state needs to be run like, not just politicians running around, not getting anything done or doing things that don't help the people.
What I wanted to say, you know, when you see deviations and you look at each thing, it's not just being a governor running around saying you're a governor.
You're responsible to every single department, everything all the way down.
And when you see a problem here, you want to fix the problem and then put stuff in place that it never happens again and duplicate.
You got to duplicate your successes.
That's business 101.
And it's, and that's what I'm going to, that's what I would do.
That's what I would do.
It would change, it would change the landscape here.
But one of the things, Steve, I do want to bring up is the media here.
The media in Minnesota, we have a problem with our media all across their country.
I've got a ton of them right behind me.
And the fraud in Minnesota, they're not even reporting.
We had one outlet in Minnesota.
That's your CBS, ABC, Fox Local, and CBS.
But they, I think only one of them mentioned this fraud, how deep it is, how far it goes.
They don't even talk about it.
It's like, you know, I just can't fathom why they wouldn't be putting pressure on walls.
They've the Star and Tribune.
Here's a perfect one.
I just seen this this morning.
And by the way, they're here.
He's standing right here.
But anyway, the Star and Tribune, back in 2000, they reported fraud by Somalians, actually, and in the year 2000, headlines in the paper, massive fraud.
This was the year 2000.
And now you can't, you won't be able to find it in the paper.
We'll see.
We'll see if it puts it there tomorrow.
You know, they should be attacking, just attacking these politicians and calling them out and saying, what's going on?
You know, where's Keith Ellison and all this?
The Attorney General of Minnesota.
No, he's too busy attacking Mike Lindell's Lindell Recovery Network rather than finding out all this fraud.
You see, when you do stuff like that, there's a hidden agenda, like I said.
And what is his agenda?
Was he part of it?
Did he know about it?
I mean, this is stuff that needs to be investigated.
And this is this is stuff.
When stuff like this would come up, I would be the most transparent governor this country's ever seen and this state's ever seen.
Because as long as the media would report it, I guess that's, you can't, if you, if you can yell as loud as you want, but if the media only puts out what they want you to want you to hear, then it becomes the very biggest cover.
I believe the media is one of the biggest problems for the biggest cover-up of the biggest crimes this country's ever seen.
And it's been a problem.
And that includes your Fox Newses of the world.
As you know, I bash them all the time.
But if you have stuff go on, you need to let everybody know that it's going on.
And then they're going to take care of it.
You can't have this cover-up.
steve bannon
It's just disgusting.
This is my point about Waltz.
On the morning of the election, they were leading according to the polls, right?
No due diligence was done.
This all should have been discovered years ago.
The media responsive, but also people in Minnesota and the government.
What I don't think people in Minnesota know you, like I know he's a businessman.
People remember Mike Lindell for the ads and the MyPillas and all the creative marketing.
Really, the strength of my pillow and Mike Lindell, I see it as someone who's very closely associated with you and knows you pretty well, is mathematics and you're an operational, I think, genius in this thing of deviations.
You run the company on a set of math and you're relentless about getting to the bottom.
This is why I think your Waltz is the best opponent that somebody could feel against Waltz is someone like you who's so relentless on looking at operations and getting to the bottom of it.
He's not going to be able to hide behind.
He's not going to be able to hide behind a bunch of happy talk.
People got to know Mike Lindell is like a dog with a bone.
When there's a problem to come up with a solution, he's relentless and it can't be happy talk.
It's all about a set of math that gets you to a conclusion.
How will you apply those native skills that most Minnesotans, I don't think, fully realize in your campaign first against Waltz and then as governor of the state?
mike lindell
Well, yeah, absolutely.
It's deviations.
You look at deviations, whether it's deviation in behavior, whether it's deviation in mathematics.
You know, like, for example, the elections, you go back to the 2020 election and I did my own investigation.
I looked at him going, okay, there's 4,000 people that voted in Wisconsin that maybe lived in Minnesota, whatever it was.
And I just couldn't imagine people going, come on, everybody, let's go jump the board and run over and commit a crime and vote for Biden.
It's just not, it's not, it's nonsense.
So that's why, you know, we got to the point where, okay, let's find out what really happened.
And then you got your machines and your computers and other things.
But to run it, to run things like I run my business, you look at things.
Every day you would look at all these platforms, all these silos of business in Minnesota, all these things from education to anything going on.
And you look at them and you say, okay, here's the baseline.
And all of a sudden, this changed.
You better find out why, because something had to affect that.
And you need a different input to get this output and find out and track it down.
And when you talk about mathematics, Steve, is he right?
That is how you're the best way to run businesses and also block.
I will be very transparent with communication.
One of the things I think is lost in government and politicians is the communication from the leaders on down.
I think I was this governor.
They would be tired of me calling them or telling me, look at him and say, hey, we got a problem over here.
Are you guys going to fix this?
What are you doing with this?
This is what I do in my company.
You have all these different departments.
Every day you look at that.
If everything is beautiful, then you go to the next day when you go, hey, there's a problem over here.
What do you guys have to say about it?
There would be the transparency, I think, and the communication has to be done.
So this is what we're like Waltz now.
Did he not have any communication with all these other, with your healthcare and all the stuff that was doing the Medicaid that went out, all this fraud?
You know, was there any communication when he goes and sees there's $8 million missing and stuff?
So that's where I will use communication and deviation and mathematics to put this all together because you have to run it like that.
You have to micromanage and macromanage.
steve bannon
Last thing.
I know you're a son of Minnesota.
Before we let you go, sir, what does Minnesota mean to you?
Why would you put having turned around this company, all the assaults, FBI, DOJ, IRS?
You got Ellison coming after your Christian Recovery Network.
What does Minnesota mean to you?
And what do you need your fellow Minnesotans to understand what it means to you that you would put everything aside to run for governor now?
mike lindell
Well, Steve, I love Minnesota.
I was born here, born in Mankato, Minnesota.
All my family's here.
Everything's here.
My company's here.
You know how many times people said, Mike, with all the regulations and all the stuff in Minnesota, just move your, move my pillow somewhere else.
I said, no, I love Minnesota.
And that's it.
You know, when I grew up here, we had so many things.
You know, you go, you went downtown.
You had this beautiful downtown.
We were the first mall, Steve, in the world, I think, or for sure in the United States.
Southdale Mall.
I mean, I used to go in there as a kid, the first escalators, all these things, drive-in movies back when I worked at the drive-in movie theater.
These things.
And yes, there's some things you can't bring back, but you can certainly bring back common sense and save a lot of these industries and save our cities.
And that's why when you see that bus behind me, there's 2,633 towns and cities in Minnesota.
And I'm going to try and get to every single one of them over these next 10, 12 months.
steve bannon
Mike, where do people go to find out more about this?
Where do they go to find out about your governor for campaign?
You are not, Minnesota is about to see what a non-traditional politician, what a leader and someone from the community that's grassroots and not a politician, certainly not a polished politician is about to come on the campaign trail.
Where do people go?
mike lindell
You guys can find everything you need to know at mikelindellgov.com.
That's mikelindellgov.com.
You guys are going to see a lot of the solutions I have there for a lot of these problems we currently have and some you don't even know about, but it's mikelindellgov.com.
steve bannon
Mike Lindell, go with God, sir.
Appreciate you.
mike lindell
Thank you, Steve.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Unconventional.
Here's the thing about Lindell.
We talked about agency early on about how this audience has put so many things on their shoulders to win.
Lindell has gone through hell.
His company's gone through hell.
His people have gone through hell.
They have gone from someplace that had, you know, was in every big box, was in Walmart.
And you have to remember, not only were they in these stores, they probably had the highest profit margins in this retail for the big box and for these big stores when he got canceled.
And folks know, as tough as retail is today, for them to cancel anything that drives their bottom line or adds to their operating income is unheard of.
It just doesn't happen.
They're dying for those types of products.
That's why you could tell that they were really coming after Mike Lindell to destroy him.
Now, what do you have to do?
He had to restructure the company, had to rethink things, had to really go to a strategy that was some TV advertising, but also sponsorship advertising where he went and he saved the company.
He turned it around.
But he was de-banked, deplatformed, all of it.
And so, for him to come and to kind of have that little glimmer of sunlight they have now at the company and turning around and driving and to step to really step aside and to go run for governor in his beloved state shows you what a patriot is.
That's someone that puts his community before himself, puts his state before himself, puts his country before himself.
And that's why Mike Lindell has been such, I think, fantastic leader.
It's about action, action, action, not talk.
One thing you get from Mike Lindell, you're going to get action.
There will be quite an unconventional run in Minnesota.
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steve bannon
You know, Mike Lindell, you know, is very unconventional.
You're not going to have a conventional run up there in Minnesota.
It's just not.
You have a very unconventional guy who is also one of the smartest guys I know.
Mike Lindell comes across, you know, he's got a persona that's Mike Lindell, right?
And the commercials reinforce that.
And, you know, the Sun Lapels, that the Mike Lindell I know is that because that's his true self, but he's got a laser-focused mind.
He runs the company in a very, very, very mathematical way.
And these types of companies, people will tell you, particularly ones that are marketing intensive mathematically, are quite, you know, boom.
It's why when I went to Harvard, some of the top graduates every year go to Procter Gamble, right?
Procter Gamble takes these, the marketing people are next to the finance guy is very, very, very smart, very smart.
And so, and Lindell, that's all native to him.
He didn't go to get any MBA.
He just learned this.
I will tell you one thing.
He will be an instrument against Walls and these Democrats.
This scandal in Minnesota, I think, and Stephen Miller, I think, agrees, is a key that picks the lock to a lot of things that have been going out there of how this has been financed by taxpayers in the open, not closed.
The corruption of the media, you can talk about it, but you can show it that there was no due diligence done on Walls whatsoever.
That's how corrupt the Democratic Party is.
And I think how dangerous they put a guy up as vice president one heartbeat away if Kamala had potentially won and thank God.
But on that morning, remember, that's where they had that huge relief of joy.
Now, I kept saying, We've got this.
You just have to turn out, but it just wasn't the early vote.
It was game day.
It was a game day apparatus.
And that is where you came in.
The MAGA movement overperformed that day and just had a crushing blow.
And you can see that at MSNBC, they're all happy and clappy and all, you know, big smiles on Rachel Mountain and all that.
Those smiles came off, started coming off pretty quickly until we had that historic victory.
If those polls, fake as they were and phony as they were, the psyop that they were, had worked, damn Walls.
Walls would have been the vice president of the United States, one heartbeat away, and particularly someone like Kamala, who's not exactly the entire package, as we say, not a five-tools player in baseball.
Think about that for a second.
And what we're finding out now about what has gone on is to the center beating heart of the invasion of this country and what's happened to this country.
Walls is one of the guys that not just knew about it, but exacerbated it.
Tell you one thing: of all the candidates out there, Mike Lindell is the instrument that can deliver that blow.
He is absolutely relentless.
Now, people in the media, they say he's a gad flyer, everything like that.
Mike Lindell can drop a hammer blow, and that's what this race in Minnesota is going to be.
If you want somebody to go in there and do the pick and shovel work that needs to be done to hammer Walls every day and hammer him every day and expose this good folks in Minnesota, what's going on in his watch and that they knew about and not just went along with, but exacerbated.
Mike Lindell is that, Mike Lindell is that instrument.
And that's why, and he prayed a lot on this.
I know there were many people who said, Look, in the state of where the company is right now, why don't you stick here?
There'll be other opportunities.
You know, you're still relatively young.
You've got other shots of this, but no.
He prayed on this.
And in his heart, he said, I got to do this and I got to do it now.
So I would hang on what's going to happen in Minnesota.
You know, Mike Lindell didn't ask anybody's permission except for God's when he prayed.
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We're going to go back to Indianapolis when we come back.
Charlie Kirk and the Charlie Kirk show, Andrew Colvette.
Everyone will follow us.
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We're back here at 5.
During the day, make sure you check in with John Frederick.
I think we'll push that out to make sure we understand exactly what's going on in Indiana.
This is to go back to the beginning of the show.
We're going to win and we're going to hold, we're going to hold serve, essentially win in November of next year.
Is it going to be easy?
No, it's not going to be easy.
Is it going to be harder maybe than anything that we've done before, including 16 in 24?
I think it might be.
Yep.
Trump is not personally on the ballot, but he is on the ballot.
It's a referendum against him.
That's what he's seeing these redistricting fights now.
So do we have our work cut out for us?
Yes, we have our work cut out for us.
Is it a steep hill?
It is a steep hill.
Has that ever waved you off in the past?
Hell no.
It reinforces you.
So with all the Cassandras and everybody saying it's over, it's over.
Not only is it ain't over, we're going to win this.
Now, there has to be some refocus on some policies.
I think some people are looking, are focused on things maybe they shouldn't focus on.
There's a bunch of stuff that's happened.
The central, basic, beating heart of it is correct and directionally it's correct.
And you've got President Trump, and I keep saying, until somebody can show me that someone can generate the votes of the people that determine elections today.
And those would be people that are lower information, not because they're dumber, just because they're not that engaged in politics.
They're living their lives.
Low propensity, low information voters.
Obama showed us that.
President Trump showed us that.
This is the key.
And President Trump has been the key to victory.
And he will be again.
unidentified
A tough, tough fight.
steve bannon
But then people turn to you when the going gets tough, right?
Look at the history of this country through the Revolution and the Civil War and the Great Depression and World War II.
Everything we're fighting now in this third, this third great, or fourth, I guess the fourth great turning in our country.
Of course it's tough.
That's why you and your agency are the deciding factor.
If your task and purpose is to save your country, this country will be saved.
I couldn't think of a better way to end this show than with the right stuff.
America at her greatest.
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