Dec. 11, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Would you tell us please what you think about Trump's peace plan for Ukraine? | |
| Do you think it's fair? | ||
| I'd rather comment on it. | ||
| I haven't read the whole thing. | ||
| I think unfortunately some parts of it that I have seen make a huge change in what was for many, many years a true alliance between Europe and the United States. | ||
| The remarks that are made about Europe also in interviews recently I think are trying to break apart what I think needs to be a very important alliance today and in the future. | ||
| So it's a program that President Trump and his advisors put together. | ||
| He's the President of the United States has a right to do that. | ||
| It has a number of things in it that I think while perhaps many people in the United States would be in agreement. | ||
| I think many others would see things in a different way. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Wednesday, 10th of December, Anno Domini 2025. | ||
| Hanwell Hill here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room. | ||
| This is that feature that we do every Wednesday evening when we dig down a little bit into the goings-on within Christianity, both evangelicalism and also Catholicism, and how they are affecting the culture, wider politics. | ||
| We've got something coming up. | ||
| I think we'll do this straight away at the opening of the show with Jenny Holland talking about the phenomenal revival that seems to be taking place amongst the young in university. | ||
| Before that, I just want to draw your attention to what we had in the cold open there. | ||
| We'll be coming to that with Frank Walker a little later on in the show. | ||
| That's really important. | ||
| That's the man widely acclaimed by, I think, 1.2 billion people on the planet as a Pope, as a successor to St. Peter, clearly stepping up his agitation against the Trump administration as the Trump administration starts to double down and fulfill what I think 83 million Americans have voted for, specifically with regard to tightening of borders. | ||
| We'll go into that a little more with Frank Walker. | ||
| Let's bring both of you onto the show right now. | ||
| Jenny Holland, Frank Walker. | ||
| Nice to see you back. | ||
| Frank, especially you, you've been in our prayers after your injury. | ||
| I hope you've learned your lesson, Frank Walker. | ||
| I have always maintained that exercise is very damaging for the health and should be left to the professionals. | ||
| Very good, I think. | ||
| I hope you've learned your lesson. | ||
| Yes, I have. | ||
| Folks, don't get me wrong. | ||
| I do do exercise. | ||
| I'm quite regular at exercise. | ||
| This is my exercise that I do quite regularly every day. | ||
| In an hour's time when we finish taping this show, I should do a few reps of my practicing my Bisexual development. | ||
| Frank, I suggest you limit yourself to the same. | ||
| I saw following. | ||
| Jenny! | ||
| Jenny, you've been doing equally dangerous pursuits today. | ||
| You won the BBC in the UK. | ||
| Tell us about that. | ||
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I was, yeah. | |
| So I was on BBC Northern Ireland's lunchtime radio show called Talk Back because a British footballer, a famous retired footballer by the name of Joey Barton, was sentenced this week to six months' imprisonment for mean tweets. | ||
| The sentence was suspended for 18 months by a court in Liverpool. | ||
| It was a jury trial. | ||
| He was found guilty by a jury of his peers, apparently. | ||
| But the tweets in question were accusing a female football commentator, two female football commentators, for being bad at their jobs, one of being a DEI hire, and also making jokes that were obviously sort of hyperbolic and silly comparing these two women to serial killers Fred and Rosemary West. | ||
| And he also accused or he also called the very famous radio presenter Jeremy Vine a bike nonce, meaning, you know, it's an insult that refers to a pedophile. | ||
| But, you know, these again, these are hurdy words. | ||
| The man was sentenced to six months in prison. | ||
| The judge's remarks were shocking and appalling. | ||
| And interestingly enough, the same judge that sentenced him to six months, 18 months suspended, in 2023 sentenced an actual pedophile who pled guilty to possessing sexual abuse images of girls aged 3 to 10 to the same sentence. | ||
| Six months in prison, 18 months suspended. | ||
| So there you go. | ||
| That's the UK for you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And later on in the show, Jenny, you're going to get two plum stories, I think both from the Daily Telegraph, of exactly how bad it is in sort of third-rate, third world communist. | ||
| Can I say, hold it, will be allowed to say that now that President Trump has baptized the word for suitable public consumption. | ||
| But those are two horror stories. | ||
| We'll have those after the break. | ||
| So let's start the show with some good news, which is always nice. | ||
| And then we'll, as we're doing the good news with Jenny, Frank can be sharpening his blade to stick it firmly in the back of hashtag not my pope. | ||
| Jenny, so let's go to the Washington Post of all newspapers. | ||
| You are basically our resident expert now on recounting for us all these developments that are taking place on the also largely evangelical revival following Charlie Kirk's brutal public martyrdom. | ||
| And we said right off, you know, the war room was very real America's voice was very, very clear about this right from the beginning, that there is going to be a revival. | ||
| The story here in the Washington Post actually refers to that to some extent. | ||
| Tell us what the situation is here amongst university goers. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, this is, I've become your resident expert in good news. | ||
| I'm always getting the good news stories. | ||
| So the Washington Post of all places is reporting from a series of a group of different universities the same thing that we've been seeing reported in the New York Post and the free press from San Francisco to New York, even to the UK, all over among Gen Z, an increase in religious belief. | ||
| This article, like most of the others, is very clearly stating that these people, these young people, are looking for meaning and community. | ||
| This is what is driving them into the arms of God, quite literally. | ||
| The article itself is sort of a little bit all over the place. | ||
| It does mention a Pew poll that states or claims that actually religious belief is going down among 18 to 24-year-olds, but also a Gallup poll that says otherwise. | ||
| But really, the main takeaways here are there is a surge in belief, not just in Christianity. | ||
| They do mention things like wicked beliefs and stuff like that. | ||
| But the schools that people were interviewed at were Notre Dame, University of Maryland, and American University, at which one student said something very poignant, and I think that really cuts to the heart of this, which is he says his generation. | ||
| Before you do the quote, I just want to wheel back on something you said, because that's extremely important. | ||
| Okay, you mentioned that, because these aren't contradictory. | ||
| What you said is that there's a falling away from religious identity, if you will, identification amongst the youth. | ||
| Was it the 18 to 24 bracket? | ||
| But at the same time, and this is what I think is going to be important that I flag up for the warroom audience, is that there's an growing intensification in faith of those that do go, and especially those coming into the church for the first time. | ||
| Right at the beginning of this article, and I'll come to your quote in a moment, Jenny. | ||
| The article, as you say, is all over the place, but it does touch on some very quite well on some actual truths of the dynamics that we're covering here on the warroom. | ||
| Right, look, what is so you have this dual opposing movement going on in the youth, falling away whole scale from religious identification, self-identification, but also a growing intensity. | ||
| At the beginning of this article, it actually mentions a number of case studies of specific individual and their stories. | ||
| And I just want to say that in one, the first example it gives, it says that this guy basically is doing Bible studies on Mondays and Thursdays at university, doing Mass on Wednesday evenings. | ||
| And it says here that his dedication to his new faith, because he was a lapsed evangelical, his dedication to his new faith might put even the most devout Catholic to shame. | ||
| There is a tension, I think, and it's going to require some prudence that I don't believe the institutional church possesses on how to handle. | ||
| We said this on the show, we said it, Jenny, with you, we said it with Frank Walker, we said it with Liz Yore. | ||
| There is an opportunity here for the institutional churches on how it receives, especially young guys, young men, young 20-year-old kids, right, who are coming in and becoming incredibly intense in their approach to the faith. | ||
| And what are they going to see? | ||
| They're going to see sort of Marxist communist, if it's the Catholic Church, latent homosexual, and if it's evangelical, they're going to have the blue-pink hair brigade. | ||
| They're going to see this, and most of them are going to run a mile because it's not what they think that they're going to find. | ||
| So look, we'll come on to that later. | ||
| Jenny, why don't you, because that's really important. | ||
| This is an epoch-wide opportunity for those who are interested in the promulgation of Christianity that is taking place right now. | ||
| It's an epoch-defining opportunity. | ||
| And I don't think our institutional churches are prepared for it. | ||
| They're going to know how to handle it. | ||
| In fact, I think they're actively going to try. | ||
| They're going to handle it so maladroitly, they're going to offend people because they're going to say, So, you've come in because you've been following social media and you're interested in Christianity. | ||
| We're going to tell you what's Christianity, and it's basically asylum seeker, welcome, and what have you. | ||
| Jenny, go on, please, with your quote. | ||
| I didn't mean to interrupt you for so long. | ||
| No, that's fine. | ||
| I think that's a very fair point, actually. | ||
| I think previous stories we've heard also mention similar things. | ||
| Children of lapsed, like in one case, it was children of lapsed Catholics who had left because of sexual abuse scandals in the 80s and 90s. | ||
| They were disgusted by that, are refinding it because the children are going not through the elite sort of institutional hierarchy of the church. | ||
| I mean, my guess is, this is a guess, but my guess is a lot of these young men and women are finding it either through peers or through online. | ||
| I would say influencers, but I don't mean that in a denigrating way. | ||
| Other religious young people who portray the faith in a sort of sincere and true way and aren't, let's quote-unquote, corrupted by the hierarchical church politics. | ||
| And the reason they are looking out for this, the reason they're receptive to this at all in this intensely materialistic and materialist world that is full of sin, literally, is because, as one young man said from American University, that his generation were test dummies for social media and internet. | ||
| And that is leading directly to his words, a spiritual revolution. | ||
| So, whilst there is so much horror, and these children have been used, these young adults now, but when they were children, they were used as test dummies, not just for social media and internet, but for even more nefarious things like transgenderism and far-left pornographic teachings in schools, these children were experimented upon, essentially, in all of these ways. | ||
| The silver lining is that that is leading directly, like I said earlier, to the arms of God. | ||
| And this is remarkable. | ||
| It gives me a huge amount of faith that even though there is very large obstacles still standing in the way, very powerful obstacles in institutions almost across the board, that there's something in the human spirit here that is irrepressible and cannot be cut off, essentially, from a belief in a creator. | ||
| Jenny, let me just ask you this before we move over to Frank Walker. | ||
| Let me ask you this, because as you correctly say, you are our house resident expert on good news. | ||
| You're also a house resident expert on the transgender ideology that they're forcing down kids' throats right from the four or five year old age all the way through. | ||
| Do you think, just give me a 10-second response to this question? | ||
| Are we this revival that we are seeing, right? | ||
| And I think it's particularly led, I think you're absolutely right. | ||
| You are absolutely right that this is being driven on social media by influencers, primarily. | ||
| Do you think what we're seeing, specifically amongst 20-year-old guys, this article, for example, it mentions this 20-year-old footballer, former college footballer, who's in digging down and in sort of and trying to take his faith more seriously. | ||
| It explicitly says, quotes him as saying he was really searching for something more intense with his per-life and his search for the sacraments. | ||
| Do you think what we're seeing amongst 20-year-old guys, amongst Generation Z here, is a reaction against the transgender woke ideology that they've had for all of their school lives? | ||
| Yes, and that is across the board with young men. | ||
| In my own personal experience in the wild with dealing with people not online, I see that all the time. | ||
| Young men are, as they say, based. | ||
| They are tired of being called racist. | ||
| They are tired of being called toxic. | ||
| They are tired of being called violent simply because they're boys. | ||
| They are sick and tired of it. | ||
| And more importantly, they don't believe it anymore. | ||
| They know it's wrong and they live their lives accordingly. | ||
| They are rather unapologetic about it, I'm very happy to say. | ||
| And I think, specifically as regards to religion, I think young men, we all need this, obviously, no matter age or sex, but we all need challenge. | ||
| But young men in particular want the harder forms of devotion because they most of all need challenge. | ||
| And they've been denied, for example, rights of passage and sort of rights initiation into manhood. | ||
| They've been denied all of these things their entire lives. | ||
| And they've been taught in this sort of like longhouse environment where everything is about feelings and it's all very soft and touchy-feely, but actually it's very sort of emotional blackmail and emotional toxicity. | ||
| And they're reacting against it. | ||
| This is what you would call saving. | ||
| This is what you put in the file cabinet drawer of saving culture from itself. | ||
| Jenny, stay with us. | ||
| We'll be back with you later on in the show. | ||
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| So at the beginning of the show, we had the clip of Leo XIV, inverted commas, artistic name, stage name, Leo XIV. | ||
| Subtly, diplomatically, but still clearly putting the knife in to the Trump administration. | ||
| And specifically, I would suggest two things he would have had in mind when he was referring to recent interviews. | ||
| The first will be the U.S. National Security Strategy, which we've discussed, that 33-page document, incredible document. | ||
| One of the best things I've read since come out of the White House since President Trump descended the golden escalator in 2015. | ||
| Superb document. | ||
| I strongly recommend everyone to read it and share it with your friends. | ||
| Frank Walker, it's not pleased everybody. | ||
| Tell me what was, because I know you picked up on this on Canon 212 earlier on today. | ||
| Tell me, what was what is the what is driving Pope Leo this time around? | ||
| Because he's intensifying his attacks against President Trump and the administration, right? | ||
| Yeah, CS. | ||
| I wanted to read you with something that he said at the Spanish steps on the Fisi Immaculate Conception just a couple days ago. | ||
| He said, after the holy doors, may other doors now open to homes and oases of peace where dignity can flourish once more, where nonviolence can be taught and the art of reconciliation. | ||
| That's the kind of thing that Leo says when he's talking to Catholics. | ||
| When you're a Catholic, that's what you get from Leo. | ||
| That's meaningless. | ||
| You know, that kind of blather, that could be just, you know, anybody in the street, I suppose, that I'm some crazy person might say that. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| But when it comes to Trump, Leo is very, very specific. | ||
| He knows exactly what it's like. | ||
| He's like, oh, you know, that security strategy thing, that's not going to work. | ||
| That's a really bad idea. | ||
| So Leo is very aggressive when it comes to Trump. | ||
| And every Tuesday, he makes these speeches. | ||
| And this one in particular was about after his meeting with Zelensky the same day. | ||
| And also after hearing about the security strategy and an interview at the Politico, where Trump said some things about Europe, that Europe didn't know what to do. | ||
| They were weak on immigration and everything. | ||
| He has to put his foot in and step into it. | ||
| It's just amazing to me. | ||
| And I think it's a sign of the defensiveness that he has to have Zelensky over there. | ||
| And the peace agreement is going so well. | ||
| The security strategy comes out and it's like a new Monroe doctrine. | ||
| It's a reform of Europe is what it is. | ||
| And Leo, who's supposed to be the center, the heart of Europe, the heart of Christian Europe, is all about NATO, is all about the destruction. | ||
| Leo of peace, it talks about peace all the time. | ||
| He wants more war. | ||
| He wants things that will never work out. | ||
| He wants security guarantees and ceasefires and things that Zelensky wants. | ||
| Incredibly, he wants the overarching agreements and the tyrannies of Europe to persist, but he doesn't want Europe's culture, which is what you're talking about, which is the security strategy he wants to recover in Europe. | ||
| You put that really very well, right? | ||
| It's the vague Catholic platitudes for Catholics. | ||
| And when he's on the political sphere, he's making it absolutely following on from Bergoglio, who was always the same. | ||
| Berg Goglio, you could never pin him down on his ambiguities and sort of force him into clear in-your-face heresy because his art was lurking in ambiguity, but he'd be very clear when he wanted to be on the political thing. | ||
| This is our thesis, right? | ||
| The Bergoglio 2. | ||
| Tell me this. | ||
| What happened to Leo being the figure of unity? | ||
| Well, you know, Leo, to me, is like the neocon. | ||
| You know, they say he's not anything like a conservative, but he's like a neocon. | ||
| A neocon is like a Mike Pence, somebody who'll do everything to enable the liberal side. | ||
| And that's why we get the Trad Inc. | ||
| So, you know, coming out in front, Leo at this interview last night at Castle Gandalfo, he mentions how they say that he didn't pray. | ||
| Trading said, oh, he didn't pray at the blue mosque like Benedict. | ||
| He's better than Benedict. | ||
| He's better than JP2 because he didn't pray. | ||
| And Leo, today he's like, I prayed. | ||
| What are they talking about? | ||
| I could have prayed. | ||
| No problem. | ||
| See, he's just there to fake pretending to be a conservative. | ||
| And Francis was kind of two-sided on this Ukrainian war. | ||
| Francis always kind of stepped in on behalf of Russia once in a while. | ||
| Leo is all against Russia. | ||
| You'll notice in that big meeting between the Orthodox Church, you know, and all about Nicaea and everything that he did just a week ago, a bunch of Orthodox people were there, but the Russian Orthodox Church was not represented, which is the vast majority of Orthodox worshipers, not Russia. | ||
| See, Leo is like the neocon pope. | ||
| He's all about NATO. | ||
| He's all about more war. | ||
| He's against the peace plan that Trump's trying to, and the new security strategy. | ||
| And he's against Russia. | ||
| He's following Europe and being against Russia. | ||
| The Pope of peace, the Pope of platitudes, is not really accomplishing anything. | ||
| He's more like the neocons. | ||
| And I think it's interesting when they come out there, he always says the same thing. | ||
| What do you have to say about this? | ||
| Well, I don't really want to comment on it. | ||
| And I haven't read the whole thing, but I think that this destroying the NATO alliance is really terrible. | ||
| The next move, what they're going to do as this piece, because it's well received in Russia, as this peace continues to move forward from Trump, Europe and the left on either side of the pond are going to start to make Trump look like he's lost the war and he's all pro-Russia. | ||
| And Leo, of course, you know, the vicar of Blather is all for this cause. | ||
| Just like on our side in the United States, he's fighting immigration and he's fighting ICE and he's fighting what's happening in Venezuela and in the Caribbean. | ||
| He's just all about the politics. | ||
| It's so aggressive. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Very different from Francis in that respect. | ||
| You call him the vicar of Blather. | ||
| You know what I call this? | ||
| You know what I call all this nonsense that the post-concilia popes push out? | ||
| I call it papal bull. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's a Hanwell. | ||
| That's a coined trademark Harnwellian term. | ||
| It's papal bull. | ||
| And I would strongly urge faithful Catholics to pay no attention to it whatsoever. | ||
| Just quickly on the Nicaea point, you actually made, I hadn't realised that. | ||
| The most important group in Orthodoxy is the Ruther Orthodox Church. | ||
| Massively. | ||
| I think they've got like a couple of hundred actual sort of Orthodox in Istanbul left over. | ||
| It's tiny. | ||
| I mean, it's first amongst equals, Bartholomew, but really he's got zero followers. | ||
| The big, like 95% of actual Platinum Orthodoxy is in Russia. | ||
| And they're not involved because of political reasons, not of religious reasons. | ||
| It just shows you how serious they are about their phony ecumenism, right? | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Then there's tremendous growth in the Russian Orthodox Church. | ||
| No, he's a, I call him a stunt pope. | ||
| He's a stunt pope. | ||
| He's there for political purposes. | ||
| And, you know, this is becoming a regular thing with him. | ||
| And I think the upside of it, it's a real sign of the advances that Trump's making. | ||
| That he's actually pushing back on things that were, you know, have been there for a long, long time. | ||
| Like Leo mentions, this alliance has been going on for a very long time. | ||
| How could he try to undo it? | ||
| But really, what Trump is creating is, and it dovetails with what Jenny was talking about, a revival of the Christian roots of Europe and the sovereignty of the European people on both sides of the aisle. | ||
| And a revival of politics, what they call Christian politics, which, you know, from Turning Point USA and the evangelicals that Pete Heggs is working with, and we're going to talk to a little bit later, and moving perhaps over into Europe. | ||
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| Well, one of the things that was highlighted in the U.S. national security strategy is the fact that Europe is going to make a very poor ally to the United States if these demographic changes continue to take place. | ||
| Already, we see France's foreign policy pretty much dictated now by its appeasement towards the Islamic sphere. | ||
| And that's because most of Paris is now of Muslim extraction. | ||
| And France has always been driven in a very particular way by the cultural dominance of its capital city. | ||
| So as a consequence of that, I thought we'd just dig down on a couple of two stories that we actually mentioned on the show with Steve last night, both on the Daily Telegraph, which indicate the degree to which the UK and this judiciary is bowing down and appeasing the pro-invasion establishment. | ||
| Jenny, let's start off with this one about the teacher who's been sacked or fired, as Americans say. | ||
| This teacher has been fired, a primary school teacher, fired because he told a Muslim child that Britain is a Christian country. | ||
| And I think the police, the Metropolitan Police, God bless them, even opened an inquiry, a hate crime inquiry against him. | ||
| Even though the Church of England is the established church of the country, Prince Charles, head of state, head of the Church of England, it is, at least officially, a Christian country. | ||
| That is the official religion of the nation. | ||
| Saying so is now a hate crime. | ||
| Tell us more. | ||
| Yeah, it's actually, I want to start out by saying that both of the stories that I'm about to discuss are in the news largely because of Britain's Free Speech Union, which is a grassroots advocacy group run by former journalist Toby Young and a group of other people. | ||
| And I am also on the Northern Irish Advisory Committee for that group. | ||
| And they have been indefatigable in standing up for ordinary Britons who are being persecuted by the state for their speech. | ||
| The teacher in question, who wishes to remain anonymous, was in fact fired, like you said, when he chastised or admonished a group of 10 slash 11 year olds, so middle schoolers, late elementary schoolers, for washing their feet in the sink, which is, I suppose, a Muslim practice. | ||
| And he told them that it was not a religious school that they were at, that if they wanted to attend a Muslim Islamic school, there was one nearby. | ||
| And that, in fact, Britain was a Christian country. | ||
| And that King Charles, like you mentioned, is the king and the head of the Church of England. | ||
| For that, he was sacked. | ||
| The children said it was upsetting. | ||
| They reported him to the authorities. | ||
| He was investigated by the police for criminal, you know, as a criminal matter. | ||
| And interestingly, it's not just the judiciary, Ben, and it's not just the sort of higher-up elites. | ||
| We're also talking about a bureaucratic apparatus that is fully weaponized against freedom of speech, specifically, actually almost exclusively when it's done by white working class men. | ||
| This is a campaign against white working class speech. | ||
| Let's be very clear here, because we also see sort of cultural lovies and media darlings allowed to say things like F the IDF and praise Hezbollah. | ||
| But if a teacher says you can't, the king of England is the head of the church, he gets fired. | ||
| So he was not just fired, he was also banned from having any contact with children through the safeguarding apparatus. | ||
| So the safeguarding system was set up after this brutal murder of two young girls by an employee in their school. | ||
| And it's meant to weed out predators, violent, sexual, deviant predators. | ||
| It is not meant to be used as a political cudgel. | ||
| But as for this teacher who had to sue to get his rights back to then go on to teach again, because if you can't get a safeguarding green light, you cannot have any interaction with children. | ||
| And thanks in part to the Free Speech Union, he was given his rights back. | ||
| But he still, you know, he was still fired from the school. | ||
| Now, there was another case in Wales's time of a former Royal Marine, so a veteran, a veteran of combat, called Jamie Michaels, and he was charged and tried and acquitted in 17 minutes by a jury of his peers for a video he made after the Southport riots accusing some migrants, some illegal migrants of being scumbags. | ||
| And now, Southport, I'll remind everyone, was this horrible case where the son of Rwandan refugees, quote unquote, went on a stabbing rampage at a dance class for little girls. | ||
| And there was a lot of high tension and huge anger in the country after that. | ||
| Even though he was acquitted of a crime, the local safeguarding authorities through his local town council have refused to give him any safe, his safeguarding rights back, his safeguarding access back, meaning, and this is the petty cruelties of the woke bureaucrat Apparatchniks, he has been banned from coaching his daughter's football. | ||
| Which, you know, as a football mom myself, I know how dedicated those coaches are and how much time they spend with children because they love the sport and they love getting kids out playing on fields on rainy Saturday mornings. | ||
| It's not a glamorous thing. | ||
| It's not a high-prestige thing, but it's something men all over these islands do all the time, except for Jamie Michaels, because he's right-wing. | ||
| Now, Free Speech Union, I have to say, have compiled a dossier of over 12 cases in which safeguarding processes have been found to be entirely political, i.e., they are going after people with right-wing views and blocking them from accessing, volunteering, or work with children because of their political views, not because of any actual behaviors that they might have. | ||
| And hopefully, this will bring lots of attention to this and they'll have to pull up and call these people to the carpet. | ||
| Because again, it's 100% the same thing as we said with the schools in America. | ||
| It's this bureaucratic longhouse procedure where they humiliate you and they malign you and they try and separate you from the things that you enjoy doing and it has to end. | ||
| And let's not forget the role of the police in this. | ||
| So in terms of backing up the intimidation of free speech with the full powers, the full constabulary powers of the state, the totalitarian state. | ||
| So in the first case, the case of the primary school teacher, the police opened a hate crime investigation against the teacher. | ||
| In the second case, against the Royal Marine, they opened a child abuse case just because the guy had posted a couple of years ago a somewhat spicy video against the invasion on Facebook. | ||
| Banned now from working with children, as you say, including his daughter's football team. | ||
| And I'd like to re-emphasize that the video that he made in which he used sort of harsh language was made in reaction to the ultimate example of child abuse, which was the hacking to death of three little girls. | ||
| So, you know, again, it's everything's relative in this world. | ||
| You can be as spicy as you like if you are one of the pet causes of the elites, the bureaucracies, the apparatchniks. | ||
| But if you're just a regular Joe Schmo trying to mind his business and live his life, then there's a whole everything you say is a line, is a minefield. | ||
| And yes, you will very likely have police come to your door. | ||
| Don't forget that when you opened the showing about you, talking us about your experience today on the BBC and the footballers spicy tweets. | ||
| Don't forget, folks, he got the same prison sentence for a few spicy tweets as an actual practicing paedophile. | ||
| That is the state of the British state right now. | ||
| Jenny, when we come back to the end of the show for social media, I'm going to ask you if you wouldn't mind just to give information of this free speech organization that you are part of. | ||
| It sounds to me that great work. | ||
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| Okay, so as we hurdle now towards the end of the show, Frank Walker, you're going to tell us about an interesting article in The Guardian this week, which describes the parallel between the force that evangelicalism is having on US politics now crossing the Atlantic and starting to have the same effects here in Decepted Isle. | ||
| Tell us more. | ||
| Well, you know, this is kind of new to me. | ||
| UK politics, I'm reading about it here. | ||
| Is there a rise in the religious right? | ||
| And the Reform Party, they're mentioned some people like Danny Kruger, who's a head of policy for the Reform Party, and James Orr, who's an advisor to Nigel Farage, are Faith, they say devout, more religious, um, and advocating a more religious, more Christian approach to politics. | ||
| Um, the thing that strikes me about it is that when you think of evangelicals in the UK, it isn't as strong of a force, it isn't as big of a force as the United States. | ||
| It's uh, it's about 10%, what they call evangelicals in the UK. | ||
| And they, um, they're actually not really uh, they're not really that conservative. | ||
| Most of them, they, they apparently most of them vote for the left, not so much for the right. | ||
| But there's a there's in, and they mentioned also that Paul Marshall, who runs GBTV and the spectator conservative outlets in the in the UK, they're all advocating this new kind of Christian politics, and they're trying to build from what from things like Turning Point USA in the United States. | ||
| And what I noticed in a piece that we looked at here a couple months ago, Pete Hagg says evangelical groups are very much active in politics and not apologetic about it. | ||
| They're just pushing forward in it. | ||
| And Tommy Robinson comes up in this piece here. | ||
| Tommy Robinson has been, he converted to Christianity in prison. | ||
| He's the one that's advocated against Islamization. | ||
| And he's advocating for this new Christian politics. | ||
| And their protests and their demonstrations are taking more of a Christian attitude to them. | ||
| And I remember Nigel Farage, the head of the Reform Party, was not so much against the Islamization maybe a few years ago. | ||
| He's picking it up more. | ||
| And what the point of this whole thing, of this movement, is to sort of move the two things together, the movement against the Islamization of the culture in the UK and also a pro-Christian politics. | ||
| As if Christianity needs to fill the gap. | ||
| Now, this is something that Hilaire Block 100 years ago and Chesterton said in the Catholic writers. | ||
| When Christianity falls and disappears, like we're watching it happen, Islam is going to rise. | ||
| So this is not a new idea. | ||
| But they're thinking that they can harness more of an effective political message if they make their anti-Islamization a pro-Christian and bringing back the Christian. | ||
| But the thing is, where is that going to come from when it's already such a subdued kind of thing in the UK? | ||
| And they even mention here that people in the UK don't even, they vote for more social conservative issues if they're evangelicals because they don't figure anything that's not social conservative isn't going to have any traction anyway. | ||
| They're not going to be able to deal with anything else. | ||
| So that doesn't seem very positive, but I don't think it's negative. | ||
| I think that they're pulling together with the health of the United States and people like JD Vance, a real kind of movement. | ||
| And that organization, I think, can be effective. | ||
| My question is, how are the churches going to move in here and continue to respond? | ||
| I think the trad movement, the traditional Catholic movement, which is all shackled by the church, needs to be free and independent and needs to be more organized and work together with these to try to, like Trump is trying to do with his security strategy, bring back Europe's actual roots because that's the only thing that's going to solve the problems that they have now. | ||
| Look, that is, I think, going to be one of the factors that we see that will dominate the next generation of Christianity and Christianity's relationship with the political sphere. | ||
| This issue, this reaction against Islam driving people. | ||
| And it's a factor. | ||
| I know, like, sort of the 20-year-old guys, all the 20-year-old guys I know who are on X are picking this up and responding to it. | ||
| This, you know, this reaction against Islam, you know, what if more fundamentally, we can take a step back from that and call it like a search for meaning because all this, all the traditional searches of self-identification have been destroyed by the left through the education system. | ||
| And kids these days, they have real, no emotional attachment to anything of the historical landmarks, cultural landmarks. | ||
| They've all been destroyed. | ||
| They've all been discredited by the left. | ||
| So kids are now reaching the age of 20. | ||
| They're at university, at college. | ||
| And obviously, this is starting to kick in, that they have no real attachment to anything. | ||
| And they're seeing the growth of Islam. | ||
| They're experiencing it on the street. | ||
| And they're thinking, you know, this isn't for me. | ||
| This is not my, this is not my tradition. | ||
| But they don't necessarily, they're not churched. | ||
| And whilst as an opposition to Islam, they're embracing Christianity. | ||
| The actual spiritual work, Frank, you just alluded to this, isn't going to be done by the churches because the churches have spent the last 70 years denuding us actual Christians from the Christian faith. | ||
| They're not going to take this. | ||
| These kids come in and say, oh, look, let's open the Bible at page one and we'll talk you through it. | ||
| Get your catechisms out. | ||
| We'll explain it to you. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| These people are in the business of destroying that. | ||
| So, Frank, who's going to pick up the slack? | ||
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It's going to be the laity. | |
| They need political power behind the church recovery. | ||
| There has to be some sort of power behind bringing back the churches. | ||
| You know, I've been racking my brain. | ||
| How are we going to, you know, because the Catholic Church from the era of Francis has been just completely destroyed because it does not have any political clout. | ||
| But this may be the entryway. | ||
| This may be the entryway to reform the churches and getting the people behind it, using the power of the political power that you see so effective now in the United States and bringing it over and hitting that Leo church that is Leo as evidence of this completely screwed up church, this apolitical, anti-Europe, anti-human thing that is supposed to be the Catholic Church. | ||
| Maybe through the angle of the rejuvenation of young people and the political recovery, the churches can improve. | ||
| And I have to say, because this is one of my personal motivations, right? | ||
| It's the, you know, the providential reality, the existence of Canon 212 of Chris Jackson out on Substack is doing incredible work of the war room, right? | ||
| Giving Catholics via these platforms a greater sense of their agency so that they can fill in and do the work that the institutional churches aren't doing. | ||
| And that's really something that I push constantly. | ||
| Fundamentally, at least within the Catholic Church, we, the laity, are going to need to take the church back in order to do this. | ||
| Frank Walker, Canon 212, where do people go? | ||
| I can't recommend your work, your apostolate, more highly. | ||
| You are the Catholic Church's trad Catholic Church's answer to Matt Brudge. | ||
| Where do people go to keep your updated in real time website? | ||
| Just type Canon 22.212 up in the address bar and you'll see the daily updates on the right column there. | ||
| You can see a video update of whatever today's news is. | ||
| And on Twitter, you can see me at Canon 212 spelled out. | ||
| Also, Aquario TV, we're going to be in Rumble is also the video. | ||
| And the word I was searching for was an aggregator. | ||
| That's what you are. | ||
| You're an aggregator. | ||
| And I can't compliment it enough. | ||
| Jenny Holland. | ||
| You can find me at jennyholland.substack.com. | ||
| The name is Saving Culture from Itself. | ||
| I also have a YouTube channel under that same name. | ||
| And as you were asking about the Free Speech Union, Ben, you can find them on X at SpeechUnion with a capital S and a capital U. | ||
| And I suggest you do. | ||
| They're one of the best groups in the UK at the moment, if not the best. | ||
| Superb. | ||
| Thanks, Jenny. | ||
| We'll see if we can get them on the show at some time. | ||
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| That's it. | ||
| That's the end of the show. | ||
| Thanks to Will and his superb team at Denver for Real America's Voice. | ||
| And thanks to Cameron Wallace, our producer. | ||
| We'll be back next Wednesday. |
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