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Dec. 5, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4974: Is India The Lifeline Of Russia; The Faucet Is Still Open On Immigration
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dave brat
16:20
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sam faddis
07:29
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carol leonnig
01:27
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dr karl jablonowski
04:14
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evan perez
01:05
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harry niska
01:41
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mike lindell
03:50
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rosemary jenks
04:57
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steve moore
01:29
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antonia hylton
00:45
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boris sanchez
00:26
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chuck schumer
00:11
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dr debra houry
00:38
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jake tapper
00:12
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jb pritzker
00:08
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stephen f lynch
00:18
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steve bannon
00:40
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tim walz
00:18
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wolf blitzer
00:21
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evan perez
We certainly expect that there's going to be a lot more charges that are going to be that are going to be brought against this suspect.
Now, you know, what you heard in that press conference obviously was very valid.
There's a lot of credit being passed around the room with good reason.
Obviously, there's a lot of work that went into this.
And certainly the Deputy Attorney General Dan Bongino, I think, gets some credit for having a lot of focus, bringing in an outside team, a team from outside the Washington field office.
These were agents from the FBI, from ATF, who were brought here and asked to essentially put fresh eyes on evidence that they've had.
I think it's also, however, misleading what you heard in that room a little while ago, this idea that evidence was just gathering dust and that there wasn't a lot of resources.
I can tell you that, you know, talking to people at the FBI, that there's been a lot of focus on this.
You know, this happens all the time where you have a fresh set of eyes on evidence can reveal new things.
And I think that is what has happened here, certainly from talking to sources.
carol leonnig
I think we learned some really interesting things, and we also did not get answers to some key questions.
First of all, the most interesting thing that I heard them describe was a new team.
Director Patel described bringing in a new team after he and Dan Bongino became the leaders of the FBI to review all of the millions of data lines of data, phone calls, credit card receipts for Nike shoes, credit card receipts for all sorts of battery and explosive device pieces and material, wires, nine-volt batteries.
They described a new team coming into the Washington field office of the FBI to scour through that material and that they credit that second look essentially with fresh eyes to this breakthrough in the case and finding the suspect.
On the other end of the ledger, they did not answer the sort of critical question that most reporters were asking there and that I'm curious about, which is what was the piece of evidence that tied Brian Cole, a very introverted young man who lives with his parents in Woodford, Woodridge, Virginia.
What piece of evidence ultimately tied this explosive plot to that individual?
boris sanchez
I think it's fair to suspect that there might be some sort of political motive that leans toward accelerationists.
If they put pipe bombs outside both major parties' headquarters, it kind of leads you to suspect, at least in theory, a certain message that this person was trying to send, right?
steve moore
Right.
But you also have to consider the, you know, some people are going to think that these devices were put there as a distraction to make the January 6th efforts more effective to pull police off of it.
You have to prove or disprove that to the public satisfaction, at least to the reasonable public satisfaction.
And then you have the issues where, you know, if you get somebody putting an IED at the RNC and you've got an idea of what their motivation was, or if they put it at the DNC, you have an idea of what their motivation was.
When they put it at both, it puts it in a whole different whole different realm.
And you have to start determining whether are we talking an anarchist?
Are we, you know, what is going on here?
boris sanchez
Yeah, I also wonder, Steve, what it tells you that this suspect was found in Virginia, like right outside the nation's capital.
steve moore
I think you're going to find people like that just about anywhere.
And he, Because of his location, if this is the person, he had access to the capital, unfettered access to the capital area, and likely had been, if this was politically motivated or anarchy, whatever it is, like that, they were probably radicalized online and they had somebody nearby.
And it's not like there are any shortage of anarchists or extremists in Washington, D.C. series.
steve bannon
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Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
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steve bannon
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jake tapper
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jake tapper
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dave brat
All right, everyone.
Welcome to the War Room.
Dave Bratt sitting in for the great Stephen K. Bannon.
We're all starting to hunker down at Liberty and Virginia and probably up in the swamp for the big Nor'easter.
Probably get a dusting of a quarter of an inch.
But anyway, good evening to everyone.
We got a great show for you.
We just had the pipe bomb.
Breaking news four years later.
I think you've all been kept up by Steve and the show as well as anyone.
And we've got the great Julie Kelly coming in as soon as she calls in.
We're going to switch over to Sam Fattis and cover the bases on geopolitics around the globe.
Before I get to him, I just opened up Steve's paper of record, the Salmon Color Financial Times, and saw the following headline.
It fits in what we're going to talk with Sam as well.
Emmanuel Macron of France warns of disintegration risk to the world, to the world order in Xi Jinping meetings with China, Macron, and China.
So what's this disintegration risk?
I think we kind of agree with him on that, but let's see what's the source of the problem.
Macron says, we have many ways to converge.
Always the optimist.
That's good.
He added with China, many ways to converge.
Xi earlier called on Macron to hold high the banner of multilateralism, globalism.
Just what's been going on for the past 30 years when China's been getting rich and powerful.
Let's just keep it rolling.
And that eliminates all kinds of interference in quotes.
Xi told Macron.
I'm being a bit sarcastic here.
I hope you can read that.
Macron said it was time for a new page in quotes.
Two countries and wants China to commit to more investment in Europe by 2030.
Oh, now we're getting interesting.
We got an ask of China.
That's stepping out there, expecting a response is even more of a question.
China's export controls on rare earths, something we're interested in, whose production it dominates and which are vital to industries from automobiles to defense, are also an acute concern for European countries.
Xi said China's next five-year plan, which is due to be formally released in March, offered opportunities for French industry despite Beijing's repeated emphasis on industrial self-reliance from Xi to Macron without committing to specific measures.
And so that is the difference between the French Macron and President Trump over here, who's fighting and using leverage.
Macron just looks to me like he's just wishing upon a star that Xi is all of a sudden going to be a nice guy.
And then I asked Sam Fattis to come in because we also had meetings between India's Modi and Putin over the last couple of days.
And so Sam Faddis, welcome to the show.
I'm glad you're on.
Steve's been covering the waterfront.
We're trying to pivot toward domestic, but these international issues with Venezuela and everything keep us busy.
And so I'll just open the floor to you if you want to start off with maybe the India-Putin meetings and then take the floor is yours.
Thanks for being with us, Sam.
Right.
sam faddis
Well, look, the Indians have been close allies of the Russians like for decades, right?
I mean, going back, all of their military equipment came from the Soviet Union.
So that lashup has been tight for a very long time.
And there are a whole bunch of people in the Indian government who basically came up in the ranks and that is their primary alliance, not their alliance with us.
And the Indians buy a huge quantity or have been buying a huge quantity of Russian oil, which is crucial to everything because that's where the Russians get all their money to run the war in Ukraine, amongst other things.
So it's a really big deal.
We've been leaning on the Indians to stop buying Russian oil, and they have been moving in that direction, doing some concrete things.
And, you know, that's why Putin is there.
Putin is there to strong arm them and say, hey, this is getting serious, man.
You're cutting off our cash, and we got to go back the other way.
So Modi's in a tough spot.
He's got his longtime ally, Russia, in his face, and the United States telling him the future of your economy is with us and selling in the United States.
And that ain't going to happen unless you walk away from the Russians.
So that's the backdrop to this.
In regard to Macron, look, I love the French people.
I love going to France.
The French are useless when it comes to national security and foreign policy.
My entire career at CIA, every time we oppose sanctions on somebody, five minutes later, we turned around and found that the French were going behind our backs to sell gear to name a bad place.
Libya, Iran, everybody.
So, you know, the French are always out there, honestly, complicating the situation, not particularly helpful to us.
That's no surprise.
dave brat
Yeah, back on the India piece, just for a minute, I was on India Times a month ago on some other issue, and I got them excited last week on the H-1B visa abuse.
But on the piece a month ago, they were not happy with us.
And I said on the tariffs, that's what it was.
And I said, look, you guys, you know, you're taking care a little bit of the Indian Ocean.
You're taking care of a little of the Pakistan border.
And other than that, the U.S. has got to take care of the world.
And they like hearing that they're a powerful entity, right?
They were all yesterday on the TV, they're all about the handshake with Putin and the formalities and the pleasantries.
And they just love that.
And they speak highly.
And so good.
They're proud of their culture.
Steve likes Modi.
Trump likes Modi.
They're good partners.
But is it accurate to say that they have a de minimis role on the global stage?
And I mean, they're 1.4 billion people.
They should assume their responsibility, right?
In Hindu, you know, political philosophy and Dharma and all that, it's all there in writing.
They all believe you need a strong leader so the poor don't get decimated.
They believe in justice and all these kind of things.
But you never hear a word of philosophy or ethics or geopolitic theory from the Indians.
It's just always oil and the immediate needs.
What can we realistically expect from India moving forward?
sam faddis
Well, you're 100% correct in that they don't actually, you know, from a national security standpoint, geopolitical role, they don't exert a lot of influence.
They don't have a lot of power.
I mean, look, there are a lot of great people in India and a lot of wonderful things that have happened there.
It remains an unbelievably overpopulated, desperately poor country.
So India is a long, long way from fulfilling its role.
I mean, realistically, that is going to be a long, long time coming.
And what you read about, look at their military.
I don't care what the numbers are of planes, ships, troops.
Realistically, half the planes don't fly, half the tanks don't run, and most of those units can't perform their tasks.
So there is a big gap between what they want to be and what they are.
dave brat
Yeah, very good.
Sam, can you stay with us after the break for a few more minutes?
I want to go back to the war between Russia and Ukraine and cover that a bit.
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dave brat
All right, Dave Bratt, back in the war room with the great Stephen K. Bannon and Sam Fattis, former CIA operative officer going way back to Iraq.
We're very lucky to have him with us.
His life experience informs us as we're doing this tour to force around the world.
Sam, I heard Victor Davis Hansen wrote an article about a day or so ago on the Ukraine-Russia war, and he left the impasse kind of sitting mainly on the border disputes, right?
It's a matter of egos, and Putin needs to claim, hey, to my people, you know, we lost a million people.
I've, you know, I took more than a county.
And similarly, Zelensky needs to make a claim, you know, hey, I fought hard or whatever.
But I have the feeling there's some deeper-seated issues there, and I would love your perspective on what those might be as well.
sam faddis
Well, look, clearly, the territorial issue is a major thing.
I mean, you know, Victor's right on that.
Is that the whole game?
No, I don't think so.
There's a lot of other things going on.
I'll grab a hold of one of them.
Money.
I mean, you and I think war is a horrible thing and we ought to sew this thing up.
And for the love of God, it can't end soon enough.
A lot of people are getting rich off of this, both in Ukraine and elsewhere.
So, you know, our special inspector general estimates officially 36% of all the money we sent to Afghanistan was stolen.
36% of all the bucks we sent to Afghanistan went into somebody's pocket.
Okay, so that there's no reason to think that figure is any different in Ukraine.
In fact, the former president of Ukraine came out within the last few days and formally said that his estimate is basically the same and that that equals a little bit over $100 billion that have gone into the pockets of people in Ukraine.
Okay.
So the chief of staff for Zelensky, the gatekeeper for Zelensky, is under investigation and probably going to prison for one deal that was $100 million that were ripped off.
And that's just, you know, that's not the totality of even what he was involved in.
On our end, I mean, the defense contractors are rolling in cash.
Every time they announce money that's going to Ukraine for military aid, the way that works is that money is actually going to Raytheon, Lockheed, General Dynamics, somebody like that, because they're the ones making the weapons.
So their stock is up.
I mean, over the last decade worldwide, stocks have gone, profits have gone through the roof on this.
And after all, the top, basically the top five are essentially all American companies in terms of defense contractors.
But after that, the next tier is all European companies.
And they're all companies in France and Great Britain and Netherlands.
So every time you're listening to somebody talk about, like Macron, we can't end the war in Ukraine, keep in mind that they are rolling in cash because of this war.
And all that profit goes away.
So as sick as it is, a lot of people want this thing to go on because they are getting filthy rich off of it.
dave brat
Yeah.
And is there an interest in from the U.S. perspective, you know, President Trump, he's talked about oil and paybacks and getting our money back through rare earths.
What's in play there in a minute or so?
sam faddis
Well, sure.
I mean, then the question is: if you have a peace deal and the war comes to an end, what is the relationship, say, between the United States and Russia after that?
So are we going to get access to minerals?
Are we going to get access to oil?
I'm fine with that in terms of economic benefit.
I have a little bit of hesitation when all of a sudden we're making national security decisions based on those considerations, right?
That's where the rub is.
dave brat
Yeah.
Similarly, with Venezuela, some of this stuff's being couched in terms of the drug war and the gangs and all this kind of thing.
But similarly, what other issues are at play down there?
sam faddis
Well, look, Maduro is a scumbag, and it would be a great and wonderful day if the government in Venezuela vanished and those people could return to a democratic government.
I'm all in on that.
The question is: how likely is that to happen, and what are we going to have to do to make it happen?
So, my estimation, Maduro is not going anywhere because we're yelling at him and rattling sabers.
To begin with, Maduro is kept in power by the Cubans, first and foremost.
He has alliances with the Russians, the Chinese, the Iranians.
But it's the Cubans keeping him in power.
By that, I mean throughout his national, all of it, his top generals, his top intelligence guys, they're Cubans.
His presidential guard is literally a Cuban special forces unit.
What that means is Maduro actually, even if he wanted to quit, can't quit unless Havana tells him to quit.
He doesn't even have the ability to leave unless the Cubans say yes.
And look, if you're in Cuba and Maduro falls, what do you think?
Havana's next.
So there's no way if you have any alternative, there's no way you're letting Maduro fall because you figure the gringos are coming for us, for us next.
So it's going to, we need to put that in the calculus.
This guy is not just simply going to bag it and jump on a plane and run away.
dave brat
Yeah, outstanding.
That's news to me.
Sam Fattis, thank you so much for your life's work.
Thanks for being with us on the war room.
Folks, this is why I say every time I'm on here, share this platform.
Sam Fattis has hit Stephen Kay Band.
Share the war room with all your friends.
We're going to do a little cold open before Rosemary Jenks comes on and gives us the latest and greatest on the border invasion and the top few issues we should all be concerned about.
Denver, let her rip.
tim walz
Modern-day Gescapo is scooping folks up off the streets.
They're in unmarked vans, wearing masks, being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons.
No chance to amount a defense, not even a chance to kiss a loved one goodbye, just grabbed up by masked agents, shoved into those vans, and disappeared.
stephen f lynch
When you compare the old films of the Gestapo grabbing people off the streets of Poland and you compare them to those nondescript thugs who grabbed that student, that graduate student, it does look like a Gestapo operation.
unidentified
The United States is running concentration camps on our southern border.
And that is exactly what they are.
tim walz
They are concentration camps.
unidentified
Because if we just roll this clock on the wall back 75 years, we'd be looking at a time in Nazi Germany where people ran around with signs like this new ICE sign that says report all foreign invaders to ICE.
With Uncle Sam there holding up the sign.
This could have been a Gestapo member 75 years ago.
Report all Jews.
antonia hylton
When I see ICE, I see slave patrols.
jb pritzker
The dangers that we saw in Nazi Germany are the dangers that we need to react to now.
chuck schumer
And every American, I don't care if you're Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, moderate, people should be forcefully rising up against this.
wolf blitzer
They need to be more willing to go out there and get shot when fighting.
That was a direct quote, get shot, when fighting back against some of Trump's policies.
One House Democrat saying, quote, and I'll read it to you: our own base is telling us that what we're doing is not good enough.
There needs to be blood to grab the attention of the press and the public.
antonia hylton
We have to occupy all of it.
We need to occupy every airport.
We need to occupy every border.
unidentified
We need to occupy every ICE office.
dave brat
All right, folks.
Dave Bratt, back in the war room, bringing in Rosemary Jenks, folks.
That is not your grandparents' Oldsmobile.
That's not your grandparents' Democrat Party.
That's the new Marxist flavor.
The voices you heard there, there's a video piece.
That's why you need to share this platform with your friends and neighbors who may not be familiar with this new flavor of the hard left.
All political visas are my own, as usual.
But the Gestapo, rise up in force, I think that was Schumer saying that.
Hitler all over the place.
This is why we have the Second Amendment.
You got to be willing to use guns.
I mean, if a conservative member of Congress or a senator said any of these things, you'd be drummed out in two seconds.
And so we've got Rosemary Jenks with us to give us a feel for what's behind this issue.
Of course, it's the border invasion, which was illegal.
The left uses, ignores that most important fundamental issue.
They committed the illegal acts with a border invasion.
I think of 20 million illegals.
But Rosemary, what are the few in bullet point form?
We got about a minute and a half and I'll keep you over the break.
But what are the few points we should be paying attention to at the war room?
rosemary jenks
Dave, you know, the most important issue here is the numbers.
And the Democrats have set up this system over the last 50 years to pile in as many foreigners as possible into our country.
And they have done a damn good job of it.
We have had over a million legal immigrants, over a million temporary workers, and tens of millions of illegal aliens come in at the behest of the Democrat Party.
They are now freaking out because people are starting to talk about how maybe we've had enough.
You know, the Trump administration is trying to deport illegal aliens according to the laws passed by Congress.
And the rest of America is talking about it's too much.
You know, we need to have a moratorium.
This is starting to percolate up through the American people.
We've had enough.
There's too much fraud.
There are too many national security risks.
It's just too much.
It's time to get it under control.
And the Democrats can't stand that.
dave brat
More with Rosemary Drinks, Jenks at the Immigration Accountability Project.
Rosemary, what's your website so people can go there over the break and check you out?
rosemary jenks
IAPACT.com.
It's a great website with a congressional ranking system so you can see where your members of Congress are on immigration and what they've been doing or not doing.
dave brat
Yep, when I was on Capitol Hill, Rosemary Jenks was the one the Congress folks feared the most.
When she came to your office, tens of thousands of phone calls were on their way to your district next.
So go check out that website and right back after the break with Rosemary.
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dave brat
All right, folks, back with Rosemary Jenks from Immigration Accountability Project.
Accountability.
Rosemary, what's your website again?
So people, there's no way to get this is a very complex issue, right?
Just the number of visas, the numbers, it's staggering.
That's why I need you all to go out there and do your homework.
Rosemary, where should they go?
And And then, why don't you, after you give that, give us what are the top three issues they should be looking for on your website?
rosemary jenks
Well, the website is iapaction.com, iapaction.com.
And you'll see at the top of the page, there's a tab for resources.
We have fact sheets on all the different kinds of visas.
We have a description of the entire legal immigration system.
It's all very easy to understand.
We've got legislation and the congressional ranking system that you're looking at on the screen right now.
So, all of that is on there, easy to find, easy to learn what you need.
The entire site is searchable, so you can find everything easily.
Iapaction.com is the website.
The top issues, again, the numbers.
The numbers are too high.
You know, Dave, let me ask you: if your basement's flooding, what do you do first?
Do you turn off the water or do you start mopping?
dave brat
Yeah, right.
rosemary jenks
I mean, the obvious answer is you turn off the water, right?
So, we've got to do that.
And then we've got to spend the resources to root out the jihadis, the fraudsters, the criminals, and get them out of our country.
They must go.
The third thing is we have got to break the pipeline between foreign students, OPT, and H-1Bs.
We cannot take jobs from our young people.
Our college graduates who have done everything we've told them to do have to be able to get jobs in our country.
If Republicans don't focus on this, they're going to lose the midterms.
People who are unemployed are not going to vote for them.
It's just that simple.
dave brat
Yeah, well, I was going to ask you that.
When you said the left is sweating because people are starting to figure this out, I think that is true.
And they're starting to connect the dots on a lot of this: the wars, the 37 trillion in debt, the kids can't buy a house till they're 40.
It's all linked to jobs.
A lot of that's due to the H-1B.
We went over the numbers on that a couple of shows ago.
India was not happy.
But why isn't this?
Trump wins on it.
Why can't other candidates win on it?
It's because they're not vocal enough or what, you know, these intermediate off-year elections we've been having are too tight.
And so, what's your recommendation for these Republicans to do a little bit better and inspire the people?
rosemary jenks
Yeah, Republicans need to go bold, but the first thing they need to do is actually learn the issue.
They need to know how to talk about it because right now they are petrified of being called the Gestapo and Hitler and all the other nonsense that the Democrats are going to throw at them.
You have to be willing to take some arrows here, but you need to know what you're talking about.
So, learn the issue, which is very easy to do.
We're here to help.
And then be bold.
The American people want bold action.
It's our country.
unidentified
We've got to take it back.
dave brat
Yeah, well, and I, in closing, I thought President Trump has shut down the spigot.
So, what's the problem?
rosemary jenks
Well, he hasn't shut down the spigot yet.
He is, he's starting to.
The latest order is that the, you know, the nationals of the 19 countries that are state sponsors and security threats have been blocked from coming.
But we need a full-time moratorium.
It needs to be 100%.
We've got to take a break from the million legal immigrants, the million guest workers.
We're dealing with the illegal aliens, and that's great.
And God bless President Trump for that.
He has done a phenomenal job there.
We've got to address legal immigration, including the H-1Bs, the OPT, chain migration, the visa lottery, all of these things.
And the best way to do that is to stop it all temporarily with a moratorium.
Chip Roy, Congressman Chip Roy, has introduced a moratorium bill that would do this.
And then we can figure out how to get our house in order and how to create an immigration policy that actually serves the interests of Americans.
dave brat
Yep, spot on.
And just to state the obvious, Rosemary Jenks is fighting against all the major donors and big tech folks who want cheap labor, right?
And China and the whole global establishment we've been talking about all hour on the geopolitics.
So Rosemary, do you have a, how can people support you?
Where do they go for that?
rosemary jenks
IAPACT.com.
There's a donate button there.
Please support us.
We need all the help we can get to keep holding members of Congress accountable and to get this information out.
It's a, as Dave said, it's a complicated issue.
We are more than happy to teach anyone in Congress about this issue and show them what it's doing to Americans because this it is devastating Americans, the policy that we have now, and it's got to change.
dave brat
Yep, outstanding.
Thank you, Rosemary Jenks.
Thanks for all you've done on this issue for decades.
Keep it up.
rosemary jenks
Thank you.
dave brat
All right, you bet.
unidentified
All right.
dave brat
I think we got a cold open for Dr. Carl Jablinowski, research scientists with Children's Health Defense, Denver.
antonia hylton
A key CDC panel has voted to delay any decision for now about when kids should get vaccinated and what vaccines they should receive.
That panel has been dramatically changed by HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who fired several members of the panel earlier this year and then installed hand-picked vaccine skeptics in their place.
At the top of today's agenda, the hepatitis B shot, the first vaccine found to prevent cancer, and whether it should still be given to newborn babies.
People try to look at and understand this panel in its entirety.
Is there a single career scientist who is presenting as a part of this body?
dr debra houry
Yeah, that was remarkable.
Today, the three people who presented, technically they're from CDC now, but they're not CDC scientists.
One is a contractor brought on recently by the secretary.
The other is a political appointee.
And the third person is from the ACIP.
So no career CDC scientists or vaccine experts presented.
I think that's part of the issue.
If you don't have people that know the data, that know safety, that know the science, it makes it very confusing.
And, you know, two of these presenters actually had a retracted paper as well.
dave brat
All right, back in the war room with Dr. Carl Jablinowski.
I thought Brat was a tough one.
Doctor, thanks so much for coming on the show.
We've got our own research scientists in-house.
Of course, you expect nothing less from the war room.
And so, Doctor, why don't you catch us up on the current events from the conference that's been going on?
dr karl jablonowski
Yeah, so it is quite a heated meeting, as you would expect, because both sides believe that the other position is harming babies.
And so, what the conversation is really on is the birth hepatitis B vaccine, which is recommended to be given at the day of life.
And there are two issues that the proponents for the vaccine never mention.
One is the adverse events that manifest from autoimmune issues related to the vaccine, like Guillain-Barret syndrome or other demyelinating conditions.
And the other is aluminum, which is in both of the available infant vaccines.
You know, Aluminum is the third most abundant element on earth, and yet not a single animal makes use of it as a biological function.
And there's a really good reason.
It's because it's a neurotoxin.
And when you inject a baby with aluminum, some fraction of it is going to go into the brain.
And once aluminum gets into the brain, there is no easy way out.
It's effectively stuck there.
A neurotoxin, incompatible with life, stuck in the brain of a developing infant, is a horrible recipe for their lives and for society.
dave brat
Yeah, thank you.
And give us a little more, like Rosemary Jenks just did.
Children's Health Defense.
What are the top two or three issues that the war room policy should go research?
You know, thanks for breaking it down and making it understandable.
What should people be looking at that matters politically and where they could take action to help health?
dr karl jablonowski
Sure, health in general.
Children's Health Defense, myself and my co-author, Dr. Brian Hooker, just published a preprint and have an article in review that demonstrates that children of people who served in the U.S. military are more likely to have autism than people who did not serve.
And that is a huge revelation.
It gets worse when both parents were serving in the U.S. military.
It gets worse if they were a National Guard Reserve or active but not deployed, and active duty and deployed.
And just the severity gets worse as well, going from mild, moderate to severe autism.
And it's, you know, there are 2 million people in the armed forces right now, with a whole lot more as veterans.
This is a major issue and it's a major problem.
And it's incumbent upon the Department of War to really look into what could be attributing to a higher autism rate in children of the U.S. military, both retention and recruitment processes.
You know, they're going to have to look at it really hard and come up with a really good reason as to why either the Census Bureau data and our analysis is wrong, or a really good reason as to why our analysis is right, and hopefully take measures to stop the injuries.
dave brat
Yep.
Hey, in one minute, Doctor, I'm an economist, so I think every problem is rooted in economics and money and power in DC.
Give the folks one minute on how they reach you, your papers, your research, and the disadvantages you have fighting against all the big money.
dr karl jablonowski
Children'shealthdefense.org is the website to find us.
We are on some social media outlets that have not banned us.
It is really difficult to do this kind of research.
When I started into this, this was not my native science.
I migrated into vaccine research.
And when I onboarded at Children's Health Defense, they said it could be career suicide just because the forces at work against the truths of vaccine injury are so great.
Even playing into the ACIP meeting, Rochelle Walensky, who is the former CDC director, published yesterday a call for universal HEP B vaccines right before the ACIP meeting.
That was part of the vaccine integrity project, which is supported by Cindy Walton, heiress of Walmart, and the billions of dollars a year that Walmart pulls in through their pharmacy.
unidentified
Yep.
dave brat
Yep.
Hey, doctor, thank you so much for your courage.
Thanks for your research and work.
Thanks for being with us on the war room.
I got to jump right now.
We're going to Julie Kelly for a minute, quick, and then back on the other side with Julie on the pipe bomb stroke.
We played a cold open earlier.
Oh, Julie.
Okay.
Well, we've got Mike Lindell.
Mike, you want to do 30 seconds before the other side?
I hear you got some breaking news, maybe.
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harry niska
Recently released audio recordings reveal conversations that happened between the Attorney General and individuals who were later implicated, and in some cases convicted in the Feeding Our Future scandal.
In those recordings, the Attorney General...
unidentified
Board of Order, Master Speaker.
Stage your point of order.
sam faddis
Masons 124, paragraph 1 in debate.
unidentified
Members must confine remarks to questions for the body and avoid personalities.
sam faddis
The debate here is not any individual.
It is the policy and the amendment.
unidentified
Representative Niska.
harry niska
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Attorney General was asked in those recordings to use his authority to protect businesses under investigation for wrongdoing.
And rather than distance himself or remain neutral to allow the legal process to unfold, he responded in those recordings, of course.
I'm here to help.
unidentified
Mr. Speaker, point of parliamentary inquiry.
States your point of parliamentary inquiry.
Mr. Speaker, there was a point of order, and I didn't hear a ruling or any resolution of the point of order.
sam faddis
Was there a resolution to it?
unidentified
I'll remind the body that there was no ruling made by the speaker as to the point of order that was just stated.
Representative Nisca.
harry niska
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Attorney General in those recordings even urged the individuals, let's go fight these people.
He was offered campaign contributions during that meeting, contributions that he later accepted.
The release of those audio recordings raises questions about what's going on in the Attorney General's office that go directly to the need to pass the legislation that we had previously debated, House File 20.
Although he has insisted that nothing came of the meeting, his office disclosure of closed investigations.
Point of order.
The A-11 will help ensure that what happens behind closed doors in the Attorney General's office sees the light of day.
We can protect people's privacy while shining a light on what the Attorney General's office is doing, who is influencing that office, whether it's those under a criminal investigation, nonprofits, corporations, or billionaires with political agendas, because Minnesotans have a right to know when their Attorney General's office is working with them.
Minnesotans have a right to know whether the Attorney General is telling the truth that nothing came of that meeting.
That's why the A-11 is so important.
dave brat
All right.
I went to high school in Minnesota.
It was fairly calm and orderly back then.
A bunch of Swedish Lutherans in Minneapolis and some good Catholics in St. Paul and football and sports and all that kind of thing.
So I don't know what's going on.
So we brought in the expert.
Mike Lindell is with us in the house.
Mike, what is going on in that fine state of yours and how do you fix it?
mike lindell
Well, those days are gone.
I'm telling you.
What they're talking about there is Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota, by the way, the one that's attacking me, the Lindell Recovery Network, to get it shut down, my Christian network.
This guy, what they're saying there, was he in on this or not, the billion-dollar corruption that's going on in Minnesota with our governor and the Somalians.
And did you hear him say, let's go fight these people?
Well, we're these people.
We're the people of Minnesota.
We are the people.
You guys, you also heard that yesterday it went out that we filed, that I filed with my committee to run for governor of Minnesota.
That had to be filed.
I'm making the final decision next Thursday, December 11th.
But, you know, there's just a few things.
dave brat
Hey, say that again.
Say that again.
You went over that.
You went over that kind of quick.
Say that again, slow motion.
mike lindell
Well, yesterday there was something filed by my campaign committee that had to be filed by law in Minnesota.
I am making it, and I'm 99% I'm running, but I will make that.
I will announce that next December or December 11, next Thursday, we're going to have a big press conference and I'll be giving telling you what I'm going to do there.
There's so many things that need fixing in Minnesota.
Minnesota is the Trojan horse of horrible things that are happening in this country.
I will give someone, tell someone something, though.
If I run for governor, the governor then in Minnesota, the one thing you can get access to right away are the voting machines.
So that's kind of right up my alley there, Dave.
You can get access to find out if they're compliant.
Well, none of them are compliant.
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The stuff that's going on in Minnesota with their governor and all these things.
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dave brat
Good hey, god bless you.
Thanks for all you do, Mike.
All right folks uh, stay tuned uh to the WAR ROOM.
Uh, next up we have Claire Dooley uh, the new filmmaker who's been making her debut on the WAR ROOM, uh with Steve over the Past few weeks.
She's going to be referencing the CDC meetings today.
She is with the Children's Health Defense, and she does an outstanding job of making Maha intelligible for the rest of us.
So, thanks, Claire, and we're moving the show right over to you.
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