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Nov. 24, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4949: Threat Of AI And H1B Looms Over American Workers
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steve bannon
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ben harnwell
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brendan steinhauser
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dave brat
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james rickards
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jessica vaughn
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john solomon
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leland vittert
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mike lindell
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richard baris
02:53
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jake tapper
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
You're going to not get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
It's Monday, 24 November, Year of Alert, 2025.
Okay, we're going to have in a minute Brennan Stenhauser up talking about artificial intelligence.
He leads, he's been a grassroots leader and activist for decades about artificial intelligence.
Then Jessica Vaughan is going to join us from CIS, quite frankly, on a monumental and brutal study of H-1B visas.
I want to do those as a package because it gets back to American workers.
And we're going to get back to Ukraine, the peace treaty, or potential peace treaty, and hemispheric defense.
And John Solomon is going to join us, but the Muslim Brotherhood is going to be designated, I think, today, maybe tomorrow, as a terrorist organization.
Antina Peters.
We got a lot to get to.
Barris, I held you over.
Okay, Barris.
The Net Yahoo government would say, and this is one of the reasons Ellison's, you know, they're going to buy TikTok.
They got Paramount and CBS.
They're going to buy Warner Brothers and CNN.
He's very vocal.
He says, look, I hear you.
I see the numbers, but that's because we were asleep on our intelligence as the book While Israel Slept from Katz, and you should get that.
I've done two hours with Yaakov Katz.
He's brilliant about the failure of Israeli intelligence and, quite frankly, the failure in the first response of the IDF.
But they would say the biggest loss they had was the narrative war and they lost it because they weren't on TikTok.
And that the Iranians have a very sophisticated TikTok.
And so what you saw was kind of highlight reel.
It was misconstrued, particularly by young people.
And the reason people think this is a genocide is not see what you see, right?
But see what the enemy is showing you.
Do you believe that theory, that part of the numbers, is because of the manipulation of social media in a very sophisticated way with the Israelis lost the narrative war, sir?
richard baris
Look, I've heard this argument before.
We actually, in this latest round of polling, we again asked about social media use, which network people use.
I mean, the fact of the matter is, there's a lot of pro-Israel content on other social media platforms, Steve, like Instagram, for instance, which is where young people, that's actually the app they use the most.
And you'll find a ton of pro-Israel content on that as well.
I think what changed here is twofold.
We were able to see, and as technology gets better, we're always able to see wars and conflict in new light and free from media filters.
I'm not saying it didn't have any impact whatsoever on TikTok.
I'm just saying that there are so many avenues to get information from that they're not only getting their information from TikTok, right?
So, I mean, I've heard this.
I don't subscribe to it.
I think what's going on here is more simple than that.
You gaslight people.
And now people can directly see that you gaslight that.
They don't need to go to Fox News to get whitewashed news how you want to present it to them.
They don't have to do that anymore.
They can go on X, which many of them use.
They can go on Getter.
They can go on Truth.
They can go on Instagram.
They can go on YouTube, which is the number one viewing platform that these young viewers use.
So it's not just that.
I mean, they're not as maybe sophisticated as they'd like to be.
But Steve, it's the policy.
It's the policy itself.
Americans, especially young Americans, want the government here to focus on their own issues.
So when they see stuff like that happening abroad.
Yeah, I'm just saying they're wondering, like, why does our government support this and not help us at home?
It's not that hard.
steve bannon
I get it.
Okay, so let's pivot to this.
I want to Jake Sherman.
I think the Jake Sherman piece about MTG and more Republicans quitting, and I mean like in the first weeks of January, say, hey, look, I've had enough.
Good luck, is you're seeing the Republican establishment very focused.
They say, we got an opportunity to take this thing back from the MAGA, from the war room, from, you know, all these people running around with their podcast as a supporting war room.
We've got a way to take it back, and we're just going to bail on Trump.
And if he thinks he's got a 20-seat hurdle, he's going to have a 30-seat hurdle because you're not going to have these veterans that kind of own these districts.
What is your warning to the White House now about this extensive polling you've been doing?
And of course, Mark Mitchell's doing the exact same thing.
And voila, the two best, two of the best pollsters on MAGA, because you're in that consortium now with, I think, four pollsters because you guys have called it the best over the last couple of years.
You both are giving the same warning to a White House that you fully support.
You're not trying to hurt their feelings.
You're trying to make sure they're around and not going to prison because what's happening in Brazil is going to happen here.
I keep telling people, this fight's a long way from over.
What is your warning to the White House, sir?
richard baris
This has been the warning.
You have to focus on the agenda, the at-home America First agenda, because your suit of armor against these people who will backstab you in a heartbeat has always been your support among the American public, among your people.
And this coalition, the broadest coalition that we have seen, any of us have polled, Steve, for a Republican since Nixon, actually better than Nixon's coalition, because the country is more diverse now than it was during Richard Nixon.
So it's even bigger than that.
That's how you scare your enemies, not with threats on truth or with going, you know, doing their pet projects overseas.
You scare them by maintaining your support at home.
And the only way you can do that is to address their needs, to do what you told them you were going to do when you were elected.
You're not elected to be the foreign policy second term president.
He's the only other president other than Grover Cleveland who's had two non-consecutive terms.
He doesn't have to operate like this.
They expected him to be better.
But they wanted him to focus on the police.
steve bannon
But you do understand.
I'm not trying to defend the president, but the reality is he did inherit a third world, Kinetic Part of the Third World War from an administration that was completely incompetent.
It's not like you can just sit there and wish the world away.
I know much of the audience that we have in the war room, I love them.
They would love the fact that we never did everything overseas.
I get it.
You have to do that because it's inextricably linked back to here.
But I do agree.
You've only got everything's an opportunity cost.
You only got so much time.
And I keep saying you only have so much balance sheet.
We're kind of broke.
So it's a focus on time, your energy, and also where you put your money and the greatest resource to the American people.
Barris, we got to bounce.
We're going to get back to you.
I need everybody to read this poll.
It's a jawdropper.
It's actually very shocking.
And I would strongly recommend to the Israel First Crowd, and I strongly recommend to the RJC.
You should read this poll.
You should think about it.
And you should contact Richard Barris and talk to Barris about it.
Don't immediately say, oh, Barris is anti-Semitic.
Barris is not.
He's just getting you two with the bark on.
unidentified
Richard, where did people go to get you?
richard baris
As always, Steve, the best places on locals, peoplespundant.locals.com.
Thanks, brother.
steve bannon
All the best.
Thank you.
Apec, you know where to call, you know where to call Barris and have a chat.
Okay, affordability.
That means prices.
And look, you got supply change issues.
You have all types of issues.
As long as you're running these deficits, also, Charlie Gasparino, somebody's got to prove Charlie Gasperino wrong.
Charlie Gasparino says, hey, I think the new normal is 3% inflation.
Part of that is driven by these massive deficits we have.
We have to get our hands around that to talk about affordability.
But as importantly as affordability, in fact, I think more importantly, is the bets we've made on the big beautiful bills, the supply-side tax cut to drive capital investment here for manufacturing and the tariffs, which is not to generate so much revenue.
It's really to force.
It's a forcing function to bring foreign manufacturers back here to the United States so they don't have to pay the tariffs.
Both of those are predicated upon one thing, returning America to a manufacturing powerhouse.
It is a bet on growth, is a bet on jobs, is a bet on higher wages.
Now, the reality about doing this, at the same time that you've got this, you have both artificial intelligence and you have the whole Visa scam that are putting pressure on Wait for it.
The very people right now that are kind of in revolt, the under 50 voter.
Let me bring Brendan Stanner-Steinhauser in first.
Brendan, you've been a longtime Tea Party activist.
Just give me a quick curriculum vita so people know where you're coming from.
brendan steinhauser
Sure.
Well, it's great to be with you, Steve.
Yeah, I started out as a grassroots activist, you know, going back to kind of the Obama years and worried about federal spending and worried about, you know, what Obamacare would look like.
And so organized thousands of people across the country to push back on some of those big government policies.
We were very critical of Republicans when we needed to be very critical of Democrats as well.
And I led the 9-12, 2009 taxpayer march on Washington, where we had half a million people come to the Capitol to express their displeasure at Congress.
And so I've been a longtime activist.
And I've gotten very interested in AI over the years.
And it's got a lot of aspects to it that are very concerning.
As I know, the war room posse shares those concerns.
steve bannon
Well, you've actually done, I mean, you've actually started a group to focus on this.
As I said, when Brendan does something like this, this shows you, it's walk me through from a grassroots activist and kind of MAGA working class supporting workers.
And you hear all the polling, this is what they want us to focus on now domestically and jobs, the cross currents of the visa scams, which CIS has done, Jessica Vaughan's done a brilliant study of.
She's coming up a minute.
And artificial intelligence is the double whammy.
It's the pincer move that's going to crush working people in this country.
Tell me about your organization and what is your new, you're one of the leaders in this.
What is your big concern?
brendan steinhauser
Yeah, our organization is called the Alliance for Secure AI.
And, you know, the organization started because we started to get really concerned about what this would do, what AI would do in terms of jobs, in terms of the human experience, in terms of dignity and purpose.
And you have the leaders of these AI companies coming out themselves and saying that we could have mass unemployment.
Some of these companies, their express purpose is to replace human beings, which I am just diametrically opposed to.
I think that's a terrible idea.
I think it's immoral, unethical, and it needs to be prevented.
AI should support human beings.
It should not replace them.
So we're very concerned on the economic side of things.
And then, look, I think the other key aspect here is that they can't even control AI right now with these capabilities that we have currently.
So, you know, what happens is this stuff gets more powerful.
These capabilities increase and they're going much faster and they become much smarter.
I'm very concerned that the companies can't control them now.
What are they going to do when the capabilities advance in the future?
They're not going to be able to control those models either.
And that gets you into some really worrisome territory.
So we've been fighting really hard to build public awareness about the implications of AI, to educate policymakers about this, to really shout from the rooftops and say, slow down, be thoughtful about this.
Let's put some safeguards in place that put American workers first, that put America broadly first.
And let's, hey, by the way, let's not sell ourselves out to China by shipping them our technology and allowing the CCP to build on our technology and use it to not only control their own people, but to export authoritarianism around the country.
So a lot of concerns with AI from kind of an economic standpoint, from a national security standpoint.
And look, I go and speak to people all the time, especially at churches around the country.
MAGA doesn't want this.
Conservatives don't want this.
Christian conservatives do not want this.
And they have a lot of questions.
And the politicians better pay attention because if they don't, there's going to be a political price to pay.
steve bannon
No, it's going to be enormous.
I want to go back to something you said that's very important.
I don't want to bury the lead here.
That even with no safeguards whatever, the Frontier Labs, they're at the forefront of kind of telling you or leaking out every other week.
They don't have total control about what they're doing.
They're first to admit whether it's hallucinations or all these types of things.
They're getting surprised by this technology themselves all the time inside the frontier labs.
Am I incorrect on that, sir?
brendan steinhauser
You're exactly right.
And some of them are coming out and saying it and talking about it.
Some are saying it privately, and now we're getting these leaked memos and emails.
Others are saying it publicly.
And the other thing that everybody in the war room posse should be aware of is that some of these very people developing AI, they're saying they don't know how it works exactly.
They can't control it.
And they're building their own sort of systems.
You know, some of them are buying land, buying ranches or farms, stocking up on medicine and food and water because they're worried about the worst case scenario.
So if the people building this don't understand it, can't control it, and they're building essentially bunkers, then what does that tell you about maybe what we ought to think about and what we ought to do to prevent the most catastrophic scenarios?
steve bannon
The devil catch the hindmost, right?
Anyway, Brendan, hang on, because I want you to hear Jessica Vaughan.
Jessica Vaughan's going to join us about this monumental study over CIS and H-1Bs.
Also, I think we're going to track down John Solomon.
John Solomon broke an amazing story of the week, another huge scoop about the designation finally of the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization.
Also, we're going to get an update on Tina Peters.
Tina Peters is out of the hole.
What we call imprisoned the shoe, the special housing unit, solitary confinement.
She's back in general population now.
How advanced is the effort to get her to a federal prison?
We'll get you updates on all that.
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steve bannon
Okay, Jessica Vaughan's going to join us in a second.
Brendan Stenhauser is going to stick around.
We're going to talk about the dilemma for the American worker and particularly for young folks with this dual kind of pincer move of these visa scams coupled with artificial intelligence, up jobs apocalypse.
But John Solomon's available.
John, over the weekend, you broke this huge story in the Muslim Brotherhood last night, but I haven't had a chance to ask you about Mamdani on Friday.
Because over the weekend, there's a discussion in MAGA.
Is President Trump playing five-dimension chess since you broke the story that he's going to designate the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization?
Or is President Trump just trying to glide off the celebrity of Mandami, sir?
john solomon
So I actually think, really, that this was a very strategic weekend for the president.
So I think they knew that Mamdani would relish having a fight, maybe having a Zelensky-like moment in the White House.
President Trump wasn't going to give it to him.
In fact, the White House calculation was if President Trump was nice and praised Mamdani, it would hurt him with his radical peeps and socialists back in New York.
And so he did exactly that, to play a little bit of thing.
And then they knew MAGA might be a little concerned.
Is he going soft on someone that likes terrorist?
So they set up this plan to sign the long-awaited Muslim Brotherhood terrorist designation for Monday.
And on Sunday morning, because Justin News had done a very important story last week on it, I sent the story to the president.
He came back like, I'm doing this.
unidentified
Go ahead.
john solomon
You can put it on the record.
Let's go.
And so it was actually a calculated messaging weekend.
All things were planned.
None of it was organic.
No, the president wasn't off his game on Friday.
He actually and his team believed that treating Mamdani that way would be confusing to him.
And you can see Mamdani was a little taken aback.
He didn't know what to make of Friday's meeting.
It took him a whole day to recover and go, oh, I still think he's a fascist.
He threw Mamdani off, probably did some damage with Mamdani's peeps in New York, creating some distrust among those socialists and Islamists that support him.
And then the president coming back very quickly and saying, well, just because I was nice here doesn't mean I don't take terrorism and Islamist threats seriously.
And something he's talked about doing and tried to get Congress to do for eight years, designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, he's going to do by executive order, probably as early as 4 o'clock today.
steve bannon
No.
Wow.
EO, today, we're going to be covering everything live.
Real America is always stick around.
We're going to have special on it at 5 o'clock, 6 o'clock.
Real quickly, how, and I'll admit, of everything I worked on the White House first term, I got nowhere with this one.
We made a big deal about it, John, as you know, and we got zero traction.
So this is Monument.
Just tell the audience, what is so important about designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, sir?
john solomon
It is at the root of destabilizing the Middle East.
It's been around for decades.
Even Egypt, where it's born, has now made it illegal to be organized as a Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
If Egypt thinks it's bad, we should definitely think it's bad.
The president really wanted Congress to take the lead on this.
Ted Cruz submitted legislation, but Congress didn't move on it, as classic Congress does.
It gets very little done.
So the president wasn't going to wait any longer.
And so he's going to do it by executive order, hoping that this will prompt Congress to get this more formalized.
Executive order could always be reversed by the next Democrat.
President getting the ball rolling, though, hoping that Congress will make this a permanent designation.
But a very important thing, the Muslim Brotherhood is one of the largest destabilizers of the Middle East.
It's also one of the largest recruiters of young people.
It pollutes the young minds of so many young people in the Middle East.
And the President Trump will now have new enormous powers to go after it and to cripple it and to take it offline as much as he can.
And you saw what he did with the Venezuelan drug boats in the Caribbean.
When he takes the power, he uses it.
So if I'm the Muslim Brotherhood, I'm feeling pretty uncomfortable at 4.03 this afternoon.
steve bannon
John, the seditious six, you're very close to the DOJ.
You criticize them when they need to be criticized.
You support them and got their back when they need it.
What's happening with Seditious Six?
You even got Bill Mara.
You've got people that are hard left.
They're saying, this is ridiculous.
This is dangerous, particularly.
We got 14,000 Marines and sailors off the coast of So, what is the administration going to do about this?
What's Congress going to do about this?
john solomon
Well, I think the first thing is to let the Democrats unravel.
And you saw that with Slotkin.
She goes on TV on Sunday.
She can't actually identify an illegal order that she wants the soldiers to defy.
That probably was the most damning moment for the Democrats because this was a political show with no stake in the meat locker, right?
They were going to put a show on and not feed the people.
They got called on it.
It'll be interesting to see if the Justice Department takes this action and does anything.
I think there'll be warning letters.
There might be some grand jury activity.
I would guess at the end of the day, they're going to consider this protected speech under the speech and debate clause unless someone takes an action to force someone to actually or to try to come out and defy an order of the president.
I think they're on notice.
But you know, the amazing thing about this: the Democrats thought the American people are stupid.
And they found out, once again, you think they'd learned this by now.
The American public is very astute.
They understood how reprehensible a moment this was.
And even some of the mainstream media had to ask a question.
And when they did, they got the answer, which is the Democrats can't even identify an illegal order because there haven't been any.
steve bannon
John Solomon, where do people go to get everything related to all your investigative reporting, sir?
john solomon
Thank you, my friend.
Justinnews.com and then Jay Solomon reports on all platforms.
steve bannon
Big day at four o'clock.
John, looking forward.
We talk to you at six.
I think it'll be pretty amazing.
Thank you, sir.
john solomon
Can't wait for it.
It's going to be fun.
steve bannon
The John Solomon does the show Justin News at six.
Incredible.
I want to give a hat tip to brother Glenn Beck.
He's done an amazing job on this topic.
Went back, did the research.
He's put out the laws.
He had a broadcast the other day.
I think it's gone a long way to get people on Capitol Hill to realize this is as serious as it gets.
So hat tip to Glenn Beck and his team over there at the Blaze.
Jessica Vaughan, CIS, you had a podcast the other day.
Look, you're a truth teller, and this is something the American people have to understand.
The H-1Bs, all of these, I call them scams on the visa program.
I've been calling for the worry is we've got to stop all of it.
We've got to shut down H-1Bs, but we need a moratorium on all of it.
Chiproy and others agree this is out of control.
The young people in this country are being crushed right now with competing against foreign workers for what should be jobs for American workers and artificial intelligence.
Tell me about your podcast the other day.
Why was it so explosive?
jessica vaughn
Well, so we've published a lot of reports and data showing that this H-1B program in particular is not bringing in the best and the brightest or people who are needed by our economy or by American businesses to compete or to innovate.
They're ordinary workers working for less and they replace American workers.
So I think it really helped people to hit home to hear from this consular officer who had actually spent two years in southern India in Chennai adjudicating these visas.
And what she told us was that they knew that there were about 15 consular officers who'd issue about 200 visas a day, H-1B visas a day, and 80 to 90% of them were fraudulent.
People faked their credentials, their degrees.
They were paying bribes to these consultancies that were run by Indian politicians.
They had people stand in for job interviews for them.
The whole thing is just a massive fraud on our system.
And they knew this.
They wrote reports about it.
They proved it.
And yet their supervisors at the State Department said, no, just keep cranking out those visas because we're under pressure from Indian politicians who, by the way, own some of these businesses and are making money off of it.
The employers in the United States are in on it as well.
The Indian workers, when they get to the U.S., are paying them bribes.
And it's all a scheme set up specifically to replace American workers.
And we let it happen hundreds of thousands of times every year with new workers.
And it's just, you know, the most galling thing was to hear that, you know, this has been going on for so many years and government agencies are just telling consular officers, just keep issuing these visas.
It's so unfair to Americans.
It's such a myth that we need these workers.
And the whole, as you said, the thing needs to be shut down.
steve bannon
No, it's not even a myth.
It's a bald-faced lie.
I keep challenging the tech bros all the time.
Show me one billet that you have either an educational difference we can't fill or an employment difference.
They can't do it.
This is a total and complete scam.
And it's in broad daylight.
Go back.
We got a minute or two.
Just go back and say what the guy said about the whole system.
And everybody's taking kickbacks.
Everybody's making money off the carcass of American workers, ma'am.
jessica vaughn
That is exactly right.
It's a fraud from beginning to end.
And it's damaging Americans and American opportunities for American workers.
It's a lie that Americans can't do the math to become computer programmers.
It's a lie that we need more of these workers.
We're a country of 360-some million people.
We don't have labor shortages and anything.
In fact, we have low labor force participation rates.
And, you know, we need to end these programs so that we can restore greatness to the, you know, to our country and to continue to be a leader in the world and be self-sufficient and not erode away at our competitiveness by leaving it up to cheap labor body shops to do work that Americans can do better.
That's, it's, you know, we don't need these visa programs.
That's just a total fraud on Americans.
steve bannon
Jessica, could you stick around for a minute?
I want to hold you through the break.
Got Brendan Stenhauser.
We get a whole team.
We're going to get it all done.
I commit to you.
We're going to get it done.
We've got a lot to jam in here.
Also, five to seven night live.
President Trump's going to sign executive orders of four.
That always may be a little bit delayed.
We'll have Brian Glenn there.
And I'm sure he's going to take some questions from the media.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, about the Muslim Brotherhood designation.
I want to thank, quite frankly, Governor Abby and the team.
I understand it was at the tip of the band that you did it, but you did it.
And I think that also helped with the White House.
That's going to be today, hopefully at 4 o'clock.
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Extraordinary.
Where do people get the podcast?
I want everybody to listen to the podcast.
Grace and Moe are going to push it out to the war and posse.
We need to be forced multipliers.
The extraordinary thing is that it's not tech workers.
You actually had someone on the inside that was part of the scheme, admitted how fraudulent this is.
It's so powerful.
It's quite frankly jaw-dropping and it's going to lead to changes.
I guarantee you.
Here's the change we want: shut the whole freaking thing down.
It's corrupt from top to bottom.
Jessica, where do they get your podcast and where they get you at CIS?
jessica vaughn
It's on our homepage at cis.org.
It's called Parsing Immigration Policy.
And we have that and so much more on our website available for everyone to learn from and use.
I hope.
steve bannon
Oh, look, Todd Bensman's a hero here.
CIS, you guys, Mark, all of it.
CIS is the best.
You guys are warriors.
And I'm telling you, this is one of the most shocking podcasts I've ever heard because of the revelations in it.
So, ma'am, thank you very much for coming.
I look forward to having you back.
jessica vaughn
Thank you.
steve bannon
Folks, you got to listen to this thing.
The guy walks through how it's a total scam, not kind of a scam, a total scam.
It all must go away.
We've got to win the war on the HB1 visas and then have a moratorium and everything else.
Brendan Stanheiser, now that you're on watch, you're on the ramparts on this artificial intelligence.
It's so good because MAGA needs more of a voice in this.
Where do people go?
You're warning to folks about artificial intelligence and jobs.
And I'm telling you, if the visas and the AI keep wiping out jobs like they are for American workers, you're going to lose 40 seats in the house.
Okay.
And then they're going to rain hell on us.
So, Brendan, your closing thoughts and where do folks go?
brendan steinhauser
Yes, Steve, thanks again for having me.
Our website is secureainow.org, secureainow.org.
And you're exactly right.
This is an orchestrated war on the American middle class.
This is something that is on purpose.
These companies, some of them are saying explicitly, we want to replace human beings.
We want to replace your labor so that we can basically reap the benefits of that.
They want to centralize power and wealth among them and put us all out of work.
We're already seeing youth unemployment at 10% in this country.
We see some of these people admitting openly that we could see massive unemployment, something like 10% to 20%.
And, you know, it's just something that people need to continue to pay attention to, be involved, stay aware, be vigilant, and keep up the good fight.
We've got to push back and we've got to win this effort.
steve bannon
Go over to Brendan's site today.
Brendan, I'll talk to you afterwards and work out to get you back on here as soon as possible.
But everybody, go and check his site out today.
Sign up.
Thank you, sir.
brendan steinhauser
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
You got a whole wave of real warriors now coming to this.
I'm telling you, we got the right team.
I like who's on our side of the football on both of these.
I like it a lot.
Rickards, the president's going to designate the Muslim Brotherhood, a terrorist organization.
You know how serious that is.
But there also something happened in Venezuela.
Tell us your geopolitical perspective of this hemispheric defense, sir.
james rickards
Well, we're very likely to, in fact, get Kinetic and Venezuela start attacking some facilities on the ground, but that's a little bit obsolete.
You know, my day job, Steve, is financial analysis, but my night job is financial warfare.
I was once asked by the CIA, without saying too much, to destabilize the country using financial means only.
I presented a plan.
They're a one-way street.
You know, you tell them stuff and they don't tell you anything.
But months later, I talked to my point of contact.
I said, whatever happened to that plan I gave them.
They said, well, they didn't do it.
I said, why not?
He said, they thought it would work.
They were just kind of messing with him.
So I can tell you how to, by the way, Ruardo Bolsonaro put his finger on this.
He didn't really expand on it, but he got it right.
You said I've been around for a while.
I knew Lincoln Gordon, who was the U.S. ambassador to Brazil in 1964 when we ran a very successful military coup, and I don't advocate that today.
But Eduardo mentioned this.
I can destabilize Venezuela and Brazil and end the war in Ukraine with one move, which is $20 oil.
That will get Putin's attention more than any weapon system, F-16s, or anything else you want.
Venezuela is utterly dependent on it.
Brazil is dependent on it.
It depends on also.
In other words, let's use financial warfare, financial techniques to destabilize both countries.
So yeah, we're going to bomb some labs and cartel depots in Venezuela, but there are better ways to do it.
And I would say financial war is the number one way.
steve bannon
Doesn't have to be a problem.
Hang on, $20 a barrel.
Don't we bankrupt half the frackers here?
And also, Saudi Arabia ain't putting their trillion dollars in the United States.
They're working for survival because I think lifting costs are like 60 bucks now.
So at 20, yeah, we take care of Maduro, but doesn't the rest of the dominoes fall, sir?
james rickards
Well, name your poison, Steve.
I mean, I think you're right, Saudi Arabia.
By the way, oil may be heading that way anyway for reasons that have nothing to do with financial warfare, nothing to do with what I just said.
My point is, hurry up.
And there are a lot of other techniques, by the way.
That's the most powerful one.
By the way, I talked to Peter Navarro about that last summer, but that's the most powerful one.
But there are many, many techniques.
Look at what we've done to Russia.
It didn't work because Russia has too many allies and they're joined at the hip with China and they have a lot of natural resources.
But Brazil is a lot more vulnerable.
Venezuela is absolutely vulnerable.
And Putin will sit up and take notice if you drive the price of oil down.
But whether this is the banking system, hacking, disruption, power grid, there's just a lot of ways to destabilize these countries.
And I agree completely with where Brazil is going and what's happening to Bolsonaro.
So let's do something about it.
But doesn't have to involve bombs and kinetic methods.
There are very powerful financial techniques that can be used.
steve bannon
Rickards, one of the ways we find this out of strategic intelligence.
Tell us about it.
Give us a minute on strategic intelligence.
Why this audience should go to rickardswarroom.com, our landing page, and pick up your newsletters read by CEOs and chairmen of the board around the world.
So you get what the C-suite's reading.
Why should this audience go?
james rickards
Thanks, Steve.
Yeah, our landing page is rickardswarroom.com.
That's rickardswarroom.com.
There you can subscribe if you like to strategic intelligence, our flagship newsletter.
I don't have to recite the things we got right, but a long list of things where we predicted them months in advance.
So that's really our claim to fame is that our predictive analytics are better.
I don't say I'm smarter than anyone else, but we do have better models, better predictive analytics.
And we can get, by the way, Steve, with this, the number one best-selling book on the dangers and threats of artificial intelligence, which you were just talking about with the last guest, is my book, Money GPT.
And you can get a free copy of that with a subscription to Strategic Intelligence.
But that book's a year old, but we warned about the threats a year ago.
And it's good reading for people who are interested in the threats of AI.
And I talked to the top people in Silicon Valley.
steve bannon
Yeah, not just, it was a good a year ago.
Everything you said came true.
On currency, currency wars or money GPT, I'm telling you, Jim Rickard, dead spot on.
Jim, thank you so much, brother.
Appreciate you coming on today for insights.
Predictive analytics, you can get it at strategic intelligence.
Just go to rickardswarroom.com.
That's the landing page.
You get access to all of it and the free book.
And the book will keep you up at night.
Jim Rickards, thank you so much, brother.
Ben Harnwell, uh, from Rome, live.
Give me three minutes of your BD-eyed analysis on this Ukraine.
President Trump, it's not your war.
They're trying to make it your war.
Rickards is absolutely correct.
This is what this is not your war.
Every opportunity, you've tried everything to bring peace.
I know you hate the killing, but the Europeans are just not going to.
They still think they won this war.
The Russians won the war.
It's now time to say that and just walk away.
Ben Harnwell.
ben harnwell
Well, I'll focus in my BD-I'd cynicism on the very point that you just started off with your question, Steve, and that is the European response.
First of all, the background.
So we have the 28-point plan that was leaked to Axios last week.
Then over the weekend, huge, huge story that, in fact, this wasn't an American plan at all.
It was a Russian plan.
Interestingly, I put a lot of importance on the fact that Marco Rubio denied, put out a full frontal, in-your-face denying that I did not say that to these senators.
I've been misunderstood, misquoted.
That's important because that indicates to me, Steve, that this 28-point plan is still very much something that the U.S. administration is hoping to construct the peace negotiations on, the framework for the peace negotiations, which they're calling it now.
So they had this big meeting in Switzerland and Geneva yesterday with Steve Witkoff and Marco Rubio, and then the Umarov, the guy who's leading this from the Ukrainian side.
And you have the European response to the 28-point plan, which they hate.
Here's the interesting thing, right, Steve?
This is my takeaway.
The European response, they have the audacity to go through this 28-point plan line by line, word by word, instead of doing an underlining, cutting out, putting in words to it, right?
They're proposing that they, the Europeans are proposing that Ukraine receives a security guarantee from the United States, similar to NATO's Article 5 clause.
Now, we know this is the situation, right?
We know this is obviously what they want.
This is why Europe has been so invested in this war from the beginning via NATO to give NATO the new lease of life.
But the fact that they're putting this in, right, the fact that they are concentrating on this point in the 28-point plan is incredible for me, Steve.
Europeans are basically saying to go forward, for us to lift our veto on this peace plan, America has to come up and stump up the guarantees for Ukraine's defense.
And for the life of me, Steve, for the life of me, I don't understand.
I really don't.
Ten months in, I don't understand why President Trump says, you want to defend Ukraine?
Have at it.
We're out.
Don't understand why he hasn't pushed that line yet.
He must surely be coming close to it, Steve, because this European position is an upfrontal show of demonstration of massive disrespect on behalf of the Europeans for the MAGA America First Agenda.
steve bannon
Is there still a possibility for you bounce and we'll get you back on tomorrow and we get more time?
Is there still a possibility for the United States just to walk away and wash your hands of it and say, hey, you guys, the Europeans drove them into war.
The Ukrainian people pay for it.
The Russians won.
We're out.
ben harnwell
Is it still possible?
Well, there is no force on earth that could stop the United States from doing that if that's what the commander-in-chief wanted.
The decision is with him.
He is at the top of this particular apex.
The only way that America is still here is because President Trump actively wills that to be the case.
There's no one, no force that can compel the United States.
No security guarantees, no pledges, no NATO, no nothing.
America is still here, invested in this war, because President Trump so far has allowed this to continue.
The power is with him, both to continue that situation, but also to call an end to it.
steve bannon
And you've got Lindsey Graham, all of his enemies in the Senate, the same folks that will not give the filibuster to President Trump.
Think about this.
The same people that were, the exact same people not give the filibuster to you are the same people that are all over you to give guarantees and be involved here.
Just think about that.
Not your friends, your enemies.
Ben Harnwell, where do folks go to get you, sir?
ben harnwell
Thanks, Steve.
Getter, my social media platform of choice.
Just tap in my surname, Harnwell at Harnwell.
And I've got loads of posts up over the last few days on precisely the points I've just been mentioning in the show today.
steve bannon
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate you.
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steve bannon
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Brad, you're going to be with me Wednesday, and Brad is going to be my co-host, and he's going to get a chance for the microphone.
I appreciate you today, sir, giving it up to people.
You're a scholar and a gentleman.
Your thoughts before you punch out, sir.
dave brat
Yeah, I just want to support Jessica Vaughan and her analysis and just to show the extent of the scam from her great podcast.
71% of the H-1B visas come from India.
Only 12% from China.
That tells you something's going on right there.
Then there's a cap of only 85,000 H-1B visas, but somehow one district in India, the Madras district, got 220,000, two and a half times the cap Congress has set.
So that's the scam, right?
And so it's important when I say H-1B visa, you need to think of your cousins, your aunts and uncles, your grandparents.
One of these folks comes over that claims they're skilled.
They're not.
That's the fraud.
They just took away your family's job and your mortgage and your house and all that.
And so I just want to applaud them.
And Rosemary Jenks is to go get them over at Immigration Accountability Project.
And I'll be with you Wednesday and spend more on that.
unidentified
Yep.
dave brat
And Slot can.
steve bannon
No, but you joined as chairman of the board to make sure over Rosemary's new thing.
And this is why you're a warrior.
Where do people go for your content, sir?
unidentified
Yep.
dave brat
Just today, go to Immigration Accountability Project, IAP, and support Rosemary Jenks, Great Fighter, along with Center for Immigration Studies.
They're complimentary.
Both great.
steve bannon
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, brother.
Ambassador Rickernell is going to join us tomorrow morning.
Alex Jones is going to join us Wednesday.
Alex is actually going to come on.
We're going to talk about gratitude and what we're thankful for in this republic.
Leland Vitter joins us now.
The book Born Lucky.
Leland, I can't think of a better way to start off Thanksgiving week than to have you, the Warren Posse, embrace this book, embraced you.
Gratitude.
This book is about gratitude.
Every second of it, your father is one of the great American patriots and heroes.
Tell us about him.
leland vittert
So, Steve, thank you.
Born Lucky is the story of my father quitting his job and dedicating himself to adapting me to the world.
I was diagnosed with autism about eight years old.
My parents were told that I needed to be evaluated.
So they took me to one of those little medical conference waiting areas and they sat there with the linoleum floors and the bad coffee and old magazines and they waited for about two hours in this medical building.
Well, woman gave me a bunch of tests and she came back and she said, look.
He's got so many things going wrong, behavioral issues.
If somebody touches him in class or in line, he turns around and slugs them.
Big sensory issues.
If there's socks that I didn't like or a jacket or whatever, I would melt down.
And then there was learning disabilities.
My IQ test is the average of two scores.
My score was half mentally retarded, half genius.
A 20-point spread is a learning disability out of 70-point spread.
So the woman who was the psychologist looked at my parents and said, it's very hard to understand what's going on inside his head.
And my dad goes, okay, what do we do?
And she goes, there's not much you can do.
And he goes, anything.
And she says, not really.
And so this is the story of my dad becoming my only friend.
He's still my best friend.
And Born Lucky has been just so incredibly received, Steve.
And I'm so grateful to you and to your viewers and listeners.
At some of our book events, we've had people drive two or three hours.
And I'll ask, you know, where they're from, two, three hours away.
How'd you hear about us?
Steve Bannon.
And Born Lucky got chosen to be on Amazon's Black Friday list.
So it's on sale right now, 25% off.
And it is just hope for every parent.
Doesn't matter what your kid's struggling with.
Hope for every parent of a kid having a hard time.
steve bannon
You know what's so powerful?
Really, they were telling you that you have a choice, institutionalize this kid or there's no hope.
And your father said, no way.
He's my son.
It's so powerful.
One more time.
Where they go to get this book.
I want them to read it and then we're going to have you back on.
It couldn't be a better gift for the for Christmas, for people you know, particularly people you think are struggling and parents are struggling about this.
It is an inspirational story.
Leland, where do they go to get it?
leland vittert
So on sale on Amazon right now.
I know you guys are going to tweet out the link.
So go to Amazon, Born Lucky.
It's 25% off.
If you want to get it somewhere else, bornlucky.com, you can get it there, Steve.
And really, you talk about gratitude.
The reason I wrote this was to say thank you to my dad and then to give hope to so many parents that my parents didn't have.
And that's really what people are taking away from this is the power of parents that no one tells them.
You know, nobody tells them and no experts tell them as parents, they can make such an enormous difference.
This is proof that they can.
steve bannon
Leland, what's your social media?
Where do they go to find you, sir?
leland vittert
So all at Leland Vitter.
So very easy to find.
There it is at Leland Vitter, Twitter, Instagram.
CCV, you guys don't follow me.
You need to follow me on that account.
But Steve, and I just, I cannot say how grateful I've been to you and to your viewers because they really understand the power of this story and the power of parents and what the born lucky journey means.
steve bannon
Leland Vitter, thank you.
So great to know that Warren Posse driving two and three hours to see something, see people about this.
They love this book, by the way, because they know about the power of being a parent.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate you.
leland vittert
Appreciate it.
steve bannon
Folks, get this book.
It is an inspirational story about what it means to be a parent.
It's just incredible, incredible, incredible.
You know what I'm grateful for?
Mike Lindell.
You know why?
Mike Lindell has been a great role model about how to never give up.
That's so many times he could have thrown in the towel and he refused to.
Mike Lindell, to kick off Thanksgiving week, brother, I've done my gratitude pitch for you.
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That's what the Warroom Posse wants to know.
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