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| This is the primal screen of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. | ||
| You're going to not get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Wednesday 19th of November, Anno Domini 2025. | ||
| Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War, that little slot of the week when we get to fix our cynical beady eyes on our hireling shepherds and drag out into daylight what they think they can keep under the cover, the protective cover of darkness. | ||
| Let's bring on Frank and Jenny straight away. | ||
| Thanks for coming on, as always, guys, to help break down the week's developments. | ||
| Frank Walker, we're starting off the show. | ||
| I said to myself I wasn't gonna laugh on this. | ||
| I wasn't going to permit myself a smile. | ||
| I've already broken that. | ||
| I'll try to do this solemnly. | ||
| What I'm thinking, what my conscience is screaming out is we told you so on this story. | ||
| So basically, just to go back six months when Leo, Pope Leo, Pope Leo came out onto the balcony, the Grand Lodge at the Vatican. | ||
| The three principal voices who said, beware, this is going to be Bergoglu 2.0. | ||
| And don't deceive yourself, folks. | ||
| Beware. | ||
| Those three voices, Frank Walker and Canon 212, which is the Catholic Church's answer to the Drudge Report. | ||
| It has everything there in real time that you need to be aware of if these things are important to you. | ||
| Second, I would mention, as I do routinely, Chris Jackson, who's pushing out great stuff, great narrative stuff on Substack. | ||
| And of course, the War Room. | ||
| Steve Bannon, myself, we said, right from the beginning, folks, pay attention. | ||
| Don't allow yourselves to be swept along by Catholic Inc. and certainly not by Trad Inc. | ||
| Who's only going to deceive you? | ||
| Pay attention to what your sources of news are. | ||
| So then, a couple of days ago, rather strange, Frank Walker, how this works, because it's the United States Catholic Bishops' Conference that is actually carrying a revelation given to the UK bishops by the nuncio to England. | ||
| So it's a bit strange about that, how this has transpired, because you would naturally expect the UK Bishops Conf Conference, UK Bishops' Conference to be pushing this revelation up onto their own news site. | ||
| That's not been the way it worked. | ||
| Somehow news got out from the English bishops to the American bishops and it's out there on the American Bishops website and Spreading to the rest of the corners of the world. | ||
| And what has happened is this, folks. | ||
| And don't want to say I told you so, right? | ||
| But Frank Walker, Chris Jackson, Steve Bannon, Ben Harno, we did tell you so. | ||
| Traditionis custodes, which is the letter of the loathed, despised, not at all lamented Pope Francis confiscated, | ||
| withdrew the right given by, reiterated by Pope Benedict to allow any Catholic priest without permission from the bishop to celebrate the old mass, which the modernists who've hijacked the church since the Second Vatican Council have been trying to suppress. | ||
| Pope Benedict XVI went significantly against that and said any priest can say the old mass. | ||
| No permissions necessary. | ||
| And that loathed tyrant, Bergoglu, known to some as Pope Francis, tightened up on that and said, No, no, no, we're gonna have we're gonna tighten this up. | ||
| Um, you now need permission from the bishop, and the bishop needs, I think, needs to get permission from Rome. | ||
| And everyone said when Leo was elected, oh, watch now, watch, watch how he's going to be more balanced towards the trades, right? | ||
| Everyone, not, of course, when I say everyone, I exclude Frank Walker, Chris Jackson, the warm. | ||
| And they all said this again when Cardinal Burke, very holy guy, God bless him, God bless his soul, God bless his heart. | ||
| When he celebrated the Mass at the high altar in the Vatican, with great pomp and appreciation from Trad Inc. saying, watch, folks, watch, watch. | ||
| Leo is about to reverse course on Bergoglio's pet policy. | ||
| And we said, folks, beware, probably not going to happen. | ||
| And how did we know this? | ||
| Because we simply repeated, ad nauseum, that Leo was elected on the fourth ballot by a conclave, 80% of which, that's record time, pretty much record time, 80% of the cardinals of which, the cardinal electors, of which had been chosen by Bergoglio. | ||
| So it was most unlikely that there was going to be a change in policy. | ||
| Trad Inc., folks, look, I'm going to hand over to Frank Walker. | ||
| I'll close with this. | ||
| Trad Inc. lied to you. | ||
| We did not. | ||
| Frank Walker, tell us the lowdown of what exactly has transpired. | ||
| You're right that they were building up to this for a long, long time, telling Catholics and people that are in the media and people in social media to zip it. | ||
| Stop saying that Leo is not this or not that. | ||
| Stop calling attention to the atrocities, the un-Catholic things that he says, the political leftist things that he says, because if we just go along, they're going to drop Tradiciones Custodas and open up. | ||
| Meanwhile, Latin masses, ancient masses are canceled all over America, all around the world. | ||
| And it looks like it's getting much, much worse than it was. | ||
| And so they didn't have too much left to go on. | ||
| And then finally, in a desperate situation, they came up with this, I would call it a stunt. | ||
| And the report was out of the UK bishops, they had a plenary meeting. | ||
| And the nuncio, who is a Spanish prelate and who has served in the eastern, you know, Moldova and Kazakhstan and all these places, may be somewhat unfamiliar, maybe open to some sort of special tricks. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But he announced, they came out in the press that Leo doesn't see any reason to exclude the Latin Mass. | ||
| It's just one of many rites. | ||
| And he's opening the door to the old liturgy. | ||
| And if you just put in a request for a traditionis extension of two years, he'll probably grant it or he will grant it. | ||
| So that was the story. | ||
| And all of the Trad Inc.'s telling us a zip it, they jumped on that story. | ||
| They didn't say that Trinitios Custodis was removed, but anybody who wanted an extension could get one. | ||
| And that was, you know, immediately, almost immediately, they started walking it back. | ||
| This is the thin victory that they had. | ||
| The next day, I was like the very next day, Buendia, the Nuncio said, I'm sorry that those minutes got leaked to the meeting. | ||
| We're going to implement Traditionis Custodis, which is being used to crush masses all over the world, exactly the way it's written. | ||
| So that's what ended up to be the big thing that they have been making us wait for for a long, long time. | ||
| It turns out to a nothing burger, really. | ||
| And I don't know, I don't necessarily believe that that was the information that was in that meeting. | ||
| It was never really retracted. | ||
| He didn't walk it back. | ||
| He just said, we're going to do what the church wants. | ||
| I'll tell Leo, the first story said, I'll tell Leo to tell Cardinal Roche, who hates the ancient mass, to be more lenient about it, to be more open to it. | ||
| None of that was retracted. | ||
| It was all just shut down saying that it was, I think that since this is all unsourced stories, I think a lot of it probably didn't even happen. | ||
| I don't know, but you can't know. | ||
| But that's what seemed like to be the story, a total nothing burger. | ||
| Well, the cardinal, yeah, I mean, you mentioned Cardinal Roach, an English bishop known universally to English Catholics as Cockroach, which sort of gives some indication of the affection he's held in the English church. | ||
| What are the conclusions do you draw on this? | ||
| I want to mention this because you, Chris Jackson, myself, we have come in for so much opprobrium, right, from Trad Inc. and basically from any Catholic news organization with the word Catholic in the title. | ||
| They've called us extremists, they've called us divisive. | ||
| They said we're poisoning people against Pope Leo. | ||
| But we've absolutely called it from day one, from minute to one of hour one of day one. | ||
| We've been absolutely correct on this. | ||
| Do you have a takeaway for folks when it comes to how they get their news when it comes to the Catholic Church specifically? | ||
| Yeah, unfortunately, a lot of the people that were helpful and faithful during the time of Francis are not now. | ||
| And you really have to ask yourself who benefits and how do we follow the money when you're looking. | ||
| And there are good voices out there and they're emerging voices that you need to pay attention to. | ||
| You know, there was even a little bit of a battle on Twitter and one priest framed it. | ||
| There's traditional Catholics out there who believe that the entire church needs to be reformed, that there's trouble with the Pope. | ||
| There's trouble with the doctrine. | ||
| There's trouble with the Mass that's reflecting a wrong doctrine and the real ancient Mass. | ||
| And those things all need to be addressed for the sake of the souls. | ||
| And then there's a group of traditional Catholics that are acting as if just being able to get your, the ancient mass, which the ancient mass is what the world really hates because it really brings graces and it instills Catholic faith in people, but that's not enough. | ||
| You know, you have to address the whole problem. | ||
| You have to look at the Pope with clear eyes and clearly report. | ||
| Don't, don't, you know, don't. | ||
| I think that's my takeaway to people that are getting, you know, their information. | ||
| After all, you know, just in Detroit where they've crushed so many masses, now they've just announced an enormous restructuring because nobody is going to church in Detroit anymore. | ||
| Just old people. | ||
| I mean, there's a trend, which you're going to hear about, of some new people starting to go. | ||
| But in the meantime, all the churches that are built reflecting the ancient Mass, they're all going to be bulldozed. | ||
| They're all going to be sold off in Detroit. | ||
| They're cutting way, way back. | ||
| They haven't announced how many people. | ||
| That's the reality. | ||
| So you have to look at what the church is really like. | ||
| You have a Pope that really is up there for politics. | ||
| He's up there for climate change. | ||
| Again, he's going against the border control of the United States. | ||
| These are Catholic things. | ||
| They don't bring anybody into the church. | ||
| So don't limit yourself. | ||
| Get the whole picture. | ||
| That's my advice to people. | ||
| And remember, that's what needs to be addressed. | ||
| We have to really deal with the situation of the hierarchy. | ||
| And because the money that has bought the church, the infiltrated hierarchy, and a pope that does not really reflect Catholicism. | ||
| And that would go with the ancient Mass, too. | ||
| That's putting it diplomatically, Frank. | ||
| I couldn't agree more with what you say on this, that the Mass is supremely important. | ||
| It is, as they say, the source and the summit of the Christian life. | ||
| But it is not the end of the story of what this battle is about. | ||
| And I have to remind people from time to time that the fathers of the Second Vatican Council, all the bishops of the world gathered together, the only Mass they knew that they, since being altar boys and children and sort of priests and bishops, the only Mass they knew at that time, obviously, was the traditional Latin Mass. | ||
| And yet they were able to come together as a body, as a worldwide episcopacy, and promulgate all of these non-Catholic documents that cause us so much damage now. | ||
| So for people who say, oh, look, just settle down, settle down, guys. | ||
| Don't be so rabid. | ||
| We're making progress. | ||
| We're making strides. | ||
| Renormalizing the old Mass. | ||
| That is great, but it's not the end of the story. | ||
| Steve says all the time in the political sphere, folks, the warring policy, you have your agency for yourself. | ||
| And what we try to do on this hour, one hour a week, is just remind Catholics that they have agency as well. | ||
| And I would add to that a sense of duty as the laity to help bring the Catholic Church that we love. | ||
| We do this because we love the church, right? | ||
| To bring the church back to the fullness of the Catholic faith. | ||
| Guarantee this, folks, we will keep our cynical BD eyes on this non-stop and bring you updates on this as they occur. | ||
| In a short moment, Jenny is going to tell us this horrific story out of America, specifically Maine, where a district court has prohibited a mother from taking her daughter, her 11-year-old daughter, to any church services or even reading the Bible to her. | ||
| Jenny's got the lowdown on that. | ||
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| That's B-A-N-N-O-N to 989898. | ||
| Again, that's Bannon to 989898. | ||
| So, Jenny, when I saw this story, I was absolutely horrified. | ||
| I thought, you know, Americans have First Amendment rights here on the free practice of religion. | ||
| Tell me what has happened in Maine and what's the reaction to this. | ||
| So this has to be one of the ugliest divorce and custody cases I have ever heard of. | ||
| It's a sad tale of a couple who cannot agree on the religious education of their daughter. | ||
| And the district court in Maine ruled that the mother was forbidden from taking her daughter to church or giving her daughter any religious education and handed all of that authority over to the father exclusively. | ||
| As if this shocking overstep in government power wasn't enough, the evidence that the that was in the piece, which was in Newsweek recently, was flimsy at best. | ||
| The lawyer for the father claimed that the child has suffered psychological distress being subjected to biblical teachings, including images of fallen angels and the concept of eternal damnation. | ||
| Now, thankfully, this case has been taken to the Maine Supreme Court and they heard they finished oral arguments this week, I believe. | ||
| So it won't take them a few months to come out with a ruling. | ||
| But I mean, obviously, not only religious freedom people, but First Amendment people in general will be watching this very closely. | ||
| Now, I have to say that I am always one to find the silver lining, as you guys well know. | ||
| But I have a theory here that the more extreme and the more extreme the hostility becomes towards Christian belief, the more it is actually driving people into the arms of the Christian faith, because even the most hardened atheists can see that that is a wild overstep in government power. | ||
| And it's literally baked into the United States that they cannot dictate religion. | ||
| I know you've got some good news on to show. | ||
| We're going to go over to your good news in just a moment. | ||
| But you mentioned the news week write-up of this, and that's the specific references to the psychological harm. | ||
| Yeah, it's wild. | ||
| As you cited, of the fallen angels and eternal suffering, they put this in scare quotes. | ||
| So it's, you know, to give an idea of just how bad the damage is to this poor 11-year-old girl. | ||
| She's been subjected to images of, with the scarecrows, fallen angels and eternal suffering. | ||
| And it's also how insane the liberal worldview has become that it's absolutely verboten and it's distressing and should be banned to tell a child about the concept of heaven and hell, which is what eternal suffering entails. | ||
| But I'm sure this father would be perfectly fine with this child being told, oh, you can change your sex and you can be queer and you can be anything you want to be, except not a Christian. | ||
| Look, you're a parent, Jenny, right? | ||
| What should happen in this case where you have two parents with teenage children, early teenage children, and those parents between them have radically different ideas as to the religious instruction of the child. | ||
| Now, to give good faith, just to give good faith to the judges one moment in Maine, just to think this through. | ||
| So you have the family courts, like the district court here, that is called upon to intervene. | ||
| How are they supposed to navigate this? | ||
| If one parent says, you know, this is child, you know, talking about fallen angels and eternal suffering is child abuse. | ||
| And the other parent says, basically, no, it's just common in garden Christian theology. | ||
| If they can't decide between them, should the church, the judges, the courts intervene to mediate between the two? | ||
| What is the way forward? | ||
| Well, legally, I don't see how else it can be decided. | ||
| But the problem is, putting legality aside, the reality is if a child has one parent who has convinced her, because let's face it, children are very suggestible, and children can be fed very easily a line and be encouraged to think highly negatively about either Christianity or much more commonly, another parent. | ||
| And once that happens, it's very, very difficult for that child to overcome and get free of those toxic lies that is being fed by one parent. | ||
| This happens very commonly in parental alienation cases. | ||
| And this is that taken up about a hundred steps because not only is the father saying, you know, the mother can't be entrusted with sort of moral and spiritual teachings, but the church itself is this big, scary beast. | ||
| The child is likely, I don't know if the child believes it or not, but the child is likely to have that sincere belief. | ||
| And how that child then can be deprogrammed or be comforted even and know that the mother is not trying to harm the child and neither is the church, that's a whole other ball of wax. | ||
| And it's a far more complex and far more painful process than judges on a Supreme Court in the state of Maine making a decision to the letter of the law. | ||
| It's a terrible, terrible thing to do to a child. | ||
| Absolutely appalling. | ||
| As I understand the precise nature here of what's happened, is that the courts gave the lower court, the district court, gave the exclusive, and I quote basically, the exclusive responsibility for the religious formation to the father. | ||
| And when the mother went against that, brought against the original legal action, apparently she took the daughter into town. | ||
| She said she was just taking the daughter, the 12-year-old girl, into town. | ||
| Of all horrors, she was taking her to an abortion and anti-abortion, a pro-life and anti-abortion rally, a pro-life rally. | ||
| So you can see that there is obviously different sensibilities, political and religious sensibilities between the two parents here. | ||
| But they gave very strangely, I think. | ||
| And this, I think, is going to be the nature of the appeal to the Supreme Court of the Judicial Supreme Court of Maine. | ||
| They're very unusually, they gave for no reason at all because there's no other question marks against the mother. | ||
| Yeah, and the mother in every other respect. | ||
| The mother's lawyer claimed that they used an expert witness that it was highly biased. | ||
| And that sounds very believable to me, given the state of the liberal world in general. | ||
| But I have to say, like this crazy hostility that is so exaggerated and so in your face, I genuinely believe is driving people into the arms of the church. | ||
| And the other story that we talked about is a story that was in the New York Post about how young people from liberal towns and cities across the United States who moved to New York to make it big and become a success are turning to the Catholic Church. | ||
| Catholic churches in Brooklyn, in Greenwich Village, and the Upper East Side have all reported a surge in attendees to the point where one of them said they had to put on an extra mask. | ||
| The actual numbers are not huge, but of course this is New York City. | ||
| But having lived in New York City for a long time, my reaction to this was pure astonishment. | ||
| And the interesting thing was that all of the people interviewed, there's about five or six people interviewed, they were all young, under 40. | ||
| They were all from liberal backgrounds. | ||
| And at least three of them mentioned that they had parents or grandparents who had been brought up in the church and had rejected the church because of church scandal. | ||
| Now, this is a very interesting generational shift. | ||
| It means that the old established church that absolutely messed up all of those scandals is being left behind and a new generation is coming in and hopefully they will reinvigorate the institution. | ||
| Well, all I can say is God help these kids when they cross the threshold. | ||
| No, no, God help these kids when they cross the threshold because what people think the Catholic Church is, I say this as a convert, someone who converted 25 years ago, what people think the Catholic Church is from outside is very different from what you find inside. | ||
| From the outside, it's incredibly appealing. | ||
| You know, it's supposed to be, you get the idea that this is unchanging rock that has been clear, consistent, and a fortress against modernism and modern values. | ||
| And of course, you make the argument, it largely is with regard to the faithful. | ||
| Sadly, our hiring bishops who are driving the church into the ground are stamping out every last quote Frank Sinatra. | ||
| Yeah, I can hear you. | ||
| I'm going to quote Frank Sinatra. | ||
| If the Catholic Catholics can make it there, they can make it anywhere. | ||
| In New York, New York. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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| So, Frank Walker, when I saw this next story that we're going to be discussing now about 48 trans people in a Vatican meeting, you instantly think of 48 sort of people of dubious gender identity and doubtful sexuality wandering around the Vatican halls in long flowing robes. | ||
| So it's just talking about the bishops then. | ||
| But actually, it might be more to it than this. | ||
| Tell us about the 48 trans who have been received by Pope Leo. | ||
| Well, you're right. | ||
| It is, you know, it makes you wonder behind the surface, you know, because where there's smoke, there's fire and there's a lot of smoke. | ||
| There's a lot of fire in the Vatican. | ||
| I don't know if people are familiar, but since Francis, there's been the phenomenon of tranny hookers having regular appearances in the Vatican. | ||
| Last week, I think I said that they went to Mass every couple of weeks, but they didn't. | ||
| I meant to say it was part of the regular audiences. | ||
| And then for the last couple of years, they've been going to this annual lunch for the homeless. | ||
| I'm sorry, I apologize if I use the word bums because I stick to that word I use a lot on the site. | ||
| But we're talking about a World Day of the Poor enormous event with 1,500 people for lunch, and they have tickets that they get out. | ||
| Everything now is in the tickets. | ||
| I think you get tickets if you want to see the bones of St. Francis now. | ||
| Everything has to have a ticket. | ||
| So they went, they go all over Italy and they pull in homeless people from all over the place. | ||
| And part of the groups that they get in there is these, I ever heard 48 tranny hookers. | ||
| And then the same kind of group that has been coming from a parish near the beach in Italy called what is the town? | ||
| Tradabundoscia or something. | ||
| Maybe you know it, Ben. | ||
| These tranny hookers come through a parish priest in this beach town. | ||
| It reminds me in America, it'd be more like Key West, this town. | ||
| And they all come in and they last for the last couple of years, two of them had dinner at the Pope's table. | ||
| So the story is now that these tranny hookers who are regularly also fed by the Vatican and sort of taken care of, they didn't get to be at the Pope's table. | ||
| They were only nearby. | ||
| And all over the worldwide press is trumpeting, well, the training hookers, Leo's different now. | ||
| Leo doesn't have the training hooker so close. | ||
| They came to meet him. | ||
| They gave him like letters. | ||
| I don't know what the letters said. | ||
| They gave him a picture of Madonna. | ||
| I mean, the Madonna. | ||
| I don't know if it was Madonna, but it was. | ||
| They give him all these things, but they didn't get to sit there. | ||
| And that shows that we have a whole new kind of church because these guys can't go. | ||
| Meanwhile, the papal ominer who's in charge of these events, he said, well, you know, they were late. | ||
| The training hookers were late. | ||
| That's why they weren't there. | ||
| And they were selected at random at the last minute, which makes me wonder, you know, how do you select homeless people for the Pope's table? | ||
| Do you have to weed out the training hookers, but not the drug addicts or the ones? | ||
| Yeah, it's hard to tell. | ||
| I don't get this. | ||
| What do you mean that they were late? | ||
| Surely if they're invited to lunch with the Pope, you know, you turn up, I mean, it's the Pope, right? | ||
| The Pope, right? | ||
| I mean, even if he's a pretend fake pope, you turn up on time. | ||
| So they couldn't even, such is the disrespect. | ||
| Such is the disrespect for the fake Pope. | ||
| They couldn't even be bothered to turn up for the lunch on time. | ||
| And instead of saying, no, you can't come in, outside there'll be gnashing of teeth, wailing and gnashing of teeth, right? | ||
| Instead of doing that, oh, come in, just sit on a table that's a little further away. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Frank, wow. | ||
| A little bit of a diss from the papal ominor, who's more become more of an enforcer in this case, and saying that they're not allowed to be at the table with Leo. | ||
| But they're happy about it. | ||
| The leader, Alessia Nobile, I think is her name. | ||
| She said, well, it's okay because we still got to mingle with them and everything. | ||
| And Cardinal Krzuski, the papal ominous, says, well, they're still integrals through the church. | ||
| That's the important thing. | ||
| Make sure that they know that the tranny hookers are part of the Catholic Church. | ||
| And as you can see, that they have a table with all the other homeless people. | ||
| I just think it's amazingly shocking that people in the world have to listen to this kind of scandal. | ||
| Because no, you're not, you know, you're a part of the Catholic Church if you follow the church teaching. | ||
| And it gives a terrific scandal to all the people that, like we're talking about here, that new people that are trying to find the Catholic Church to go back into the past and learn that, you know, how to be obedient to God. | ||
| That's what it's all about. | ||
| It's not about making, you know, pretending that you're caring about what the church teaches. | ||
| And then on the other hand, you know, putting people at the front table. | ||
| And I noticed that Edgard, there's a picture of the secretary, the young secretary that Leo has been working with since he was a teenager. | ||
| Edgar sitting right there next to him at the table. | ||
| They looked pretty bored. | ||
| They looked like they were just sitting there waiting for the whole thing to think. | ||
| Oh, they said it was a joyous affair. | ||
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| Of course they look bored. | ||
| It's lame fair for them. | ||
| Look, you remember a couple of years ago when you had one of these gay apps. | ||
| It might have been Grinder, but I wouldn't swear to it. | ||
| You had one of these gay apps and all the data was leaked. | ||
| It was a data dump, right? | ||
| And they looked and they found out all these rent boys were being called in to the Vatican and they had all the data. | ||
| I mean, they had all the phone numbers. | ||
| And of course, obviously the story died a death. | ||
| So half these people, right, they're at home. | ||
| They're at home at the Vatican. | ||
| They'll know it. | ||
| You say they pass a message to Pope Leo, but we don't know what was on the letter. | ||
| Probably see you later, darling. | ||
| See you at 9 p.m. | ||
| The usual spot. | ||
| Jokes aside. | ||
| Jokes aside, right? | ||
| Jenny Holland was saying just before the break, how you have young people the thirst for the supernatural, for the spiritual, for the unchanging, right? | ||
| Against materialism. | ||
| What are these guys going to find when they actually take a look at the Catholic Church? | ||
| And she's the one who's claiming to be the vicar of Christ, surrounded by trans. | ||
| And here's the thing, because they'll say Christ ate with prostitutes. | ||
| That's obviously what they're going to say. | ||
| But the point is, there's no call to conversion, right? | ||
| There's no call to lead the life of sin. | ||
| This is fundamentally the scandal between the cheap grace that the conciliar church is pushing out. | ||
| Yes, and I would say to those young people who sound in this article that Jenny was talking about, sound intelligent, people who are drawn to something because of the things they learn and because the graces in their life and from the good deeds that they've done over time, those people need to concentrate on their prayers. | ||
| Make sure that you pray because God will help you discern. | ||
| You have to weed through. | ||
| Remember, the devil hates the Catholic Church. | ||
| They hate the good priests and they're going to be working against it. | ||
| So you have to have sort of a militant attitude. | ||
| Find the right prayers, build your own faith working together and learn your past. | ||
| Find the pockets of Catholic resistance and work that way, because you're going to meet a lot of trouble on the way. | ||
| And if you look around, you'll be able to find it. | ||
| It's like in politics. | ||
| You have to decide between who's on the wrong and who's on the right side, even if they're not all the way there. | ||
| That's my recommendation to the new people. | ||
| Don't let this bad, you know, Leo says that he's in Castle Gandolfo playing tennis and swimming in the pool in the cold right now. | ||
| I mean, I don't know what's going on there. | ||
| I know they had that new gay married beast show that's going in there. | ||
| And I know that Edgar and all sorts of people are going to be in the new condo that's become the papal palace. | ||
| But don't let these people decide drive you out of the church because the church needs to be fixed. | ||
| But become part of the solution. | ||
| Become part, since you've been drawn closer to the church. | ||
| Realize the work that needs to be done. | ||
| All sorts of failures over the years have led to this. | ||
| All sorts of betrayals, all sorts of compromises. | ||
| And somebody needs to come in and fix that so that people can get to heaven. | ||
| That's word perfect, Frank. | ||
| Thanks for that exposition. | ||
| You know, and Jenny's coming on every week, updating us with these stories. | ||
| The story that she mentioned before is part of a trend. | ||
| There is definitely, the Holy Spirit is definitely doing something, not just in the Catholic Church, in evangelical churches as well. | ||
| And you have young guys, like sort of 18 to 28, sniffing out around the church for the first time. | ||
| That's the cohort, the age group that is, since the Second World War, been so difficult to keep involved in the church. | ||
| Because you get kids, they grow up in the church, and then they hit early adulthood and they drop out. | ||
| It's like almost a universal practice. | ||
| And then they come back a little bit after that, especially when they're starting to have families themselves and they want to bring the kids up. | ||
| But that cohort basically abandons the church immediately. | ||
| And what is taking place right now is quite unique in the post-war milieu and it's going against that. | ||
| And Jenny's coming on every week, sort of giving us updates and how the mainstream media is picking up on this. | ||
| And Frank, everything that you're saying is absolutely perfect. | ||
| We the laity, because it's not going to be the hiding shepherds, right? | ||
| We the laity now have to play our part in shepherding the sort of novices, as it were, inverted commas, newbies into the church, so that they won't be scandalized within five minutes at the practices and the fragrant lack of interest in formation, Catholic formation in the church. | ||
| That really falls down to us, the laity, now. | ||
| So thank you both for those insights. | ||
| We'll be coming back to Jenny. | ||
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| Jenny, Nikki Minaj has been tapped by the Trump administration to go to the United Nations, if I'm not mistaken. | ||
| Tell us more. | ||
| Yeah, so this is the first time I'm giving an update on War Room. | ||
| Never mind an update on Nikki Minaj, of all things. | ||
| But yeah, a few weeks ago, you'll remember that she retweeted, I think, a truth social post by Trump imploring something be done about the violence being committed against Christians in Nigeria. | ||
| The wholesale slaughter of Christians has been going on for a long time and is largely ignored by the powers that be and the chattering classes and also the church, perhaps. | ||
| So Nikki Minaj stepped in where church leaders have failed to tread. | ||
| And as a result, she was then asked by UN Ambassador Mike Walz, Michael Walsh, to speak at the UN, which she is going to do. | ||
| And she is going to use her enormous platform to spotlight the plight of these Christians in Nigeria. | ||
| So this is an incredible story. | ||
| This, I mean, we talked about this a few weeks ago, and I said that the fact that Nikki Minaj has stood, put her head above the parapet and said something positive about Trump was sort of like breaking the fourth wall. | ||
| This was a shattering, a pop culture shattering event. | ||
| And now she's been given this honor, and she's very grateful for it. | ||
| She wrote a very lovely post thanking the administration for this. | ||
| And it's just, it's rather heartwarming, but I also went and I did a little bit of research into her fan base because she's not my personal cup of tea, so I had to look into it a bit. | ||
| And the characteristics of her fan base are that they are very young, they are very online, they're very international, they're very loyal, and interestingly, they're very LGBTQ friendly. | ||
| And she interacts with them intensely, and they do consider her to be their leader. | ||
| So because they're young and online, they will be living in a world that is pretty much devoid of politics, certainly of policy, and you know, young people, fair enough. | ||
| But for many of these people, this will be the first time they have heard about the plight of the Christians being slaughtered by Islamists in Nigeria. | ||
| But also for a lot of them, it'll be the first time they hear anything positive about the Trump administration. | ||
| And I cannot emphasize enough how significant that is, because she is essentially reaching into a demographic that, to the extent that it's political at all, it is political in the sense that it has been queered by LGBT propaganda in schools. | ||
| And the fact that she's offering them an alternative vision is incredibly significant. | ||
| This could not be a better tack for MAGA to take. | ||
| It's also illustrative, is it not, of just how dominant Donald Trump is now in the popular culture, which has been the sole terrain since the Second World War. | ||
| Again, let's go back to the Second World War again, of the left. | ||
| Or at least from the 50s, the popular culture has been under terrain from 68 onwards. | ||
| And this would indicate now, really for the first time since, say, 68, that that's no longer the case. | ||
| It is now MAGA as a cultural force, which has penetrated like an unstoppable force into these previous bastions of left-wing communist culture, right? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| You're exactly right. | ||
| This is a demographic that has, over which LGBT and queer, as in queer theory propaganda have had untrammeled access and total control. | ||
| The fact that Nikki Minaj is the one who is brave enough to push back on that and in her own inimitable way, she's not going to turn around and throw a lace scarf over her head. | ||
| I mean, she's not at all. | ||
| I mean, her music is profane. | ||
| She is an outrageous diva. | ||
| But I welcome the fact that it is her. | ||
| I mean, it's a little bit Mary Magdalene esque, if anything, that she is the one coming into the public, into the lives of these young people and drawing their attention to this. | ||
| Because on the facts of the matter, there is no disputing that the Christians are being victimized and that they are the underdog in this particular nation. | ||
| That'll be a very obvious point. | ||
| That will be a very understandable point to these young people who are always looking for a meaning and they're always looking for an underdog. | ||
| So I mean, I say watch this space. | ||
| Nikki Minaj is a game changer. | ||
| Yeah, I must confess, I'm not that familiar with her musical genre myself. | ||
| Frank, I need to have a finger. | ||
| Do you want to make a quick point? | ||
| Quickly, I want to say that it's sort of like Pope Leo in reverse, and Trump, to me, always seems really great at undoing. | ||
| He unwinds the knot that somebody wound up. | ||
| And so, because Pope Leo just said last night that it's just economics and land disputes that's causing these problems. | ||
| And it's not just Christians, it's Muslims. | ||
| He's totally downplayed. | ||
| 60,000 people, Christians have been murdered. | ||
| Tens of thousands of churches have been burned. | ||
| I mean, that's what I saw today. | ||
| But that's the opposite. | ||
| I don't think it'll work as well as Nikki Minaj coming towards MAGA. | ||
| That's going to be much more effective than having Leo come towards the opposite direction. | ||
| A thousand percent. | ||
| And that just sort of illustrates where we are. | ||
| And it comes back to a point that we've mentioned here on the war room before, that really it is POTUS himself now at the apex, not only of evangelical Christianity, which is what the MAGA base is, but also, I think, is a leading point for inspiration within the traditional Catholic community as well. | ||
| Because it was POTUS who put out the message congratulating Catholics on the feast of St. Michael the Archangel and sort of static from the Vatican that was too busy blessing blocks of ice. | ||
| Jenny Holland, where do people go on social media to catch up with your superb analysis week in, week out? | ||
| You can find me on Substack at jennyeholland.substack.com and on X at Semper Femina21. | ||
| Thanks, Jenny. | ||
| And Frank Walker, quick word of endorsement, as I do every show for Canon 212. | ||
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| I do it. | ||
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| Frank, quickly, where do people go then to get Canon 212? | ||
| Canon 212, type it up in the headline and Canon 212 spelled out on Twitter. | ||
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| That, folks, is all we have time for. | ||
| Thanks to Jenny Holland and Frank Walker for joining me on the show this week. | ||
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