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Nov. 18, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4933: MAGA Under Siege; Decaying Society For Corporate Welfare
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eric trump
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mark mitchell
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steve bannon
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brian glenn
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jonathan karl
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pete wehner
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jake tapper
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mark l wolf
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stephanie ruhle
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mark l wolf
The constant repetition of the abuse of the Department of Justice, the rule of the law, for partisan purposes, almost day after day and as recently as yesterday and today,
where the president was directing the Department of Justice to prosecute his political perceived enemies while not permitting essentially investigations of people close to him and people who made contributions from which he profited personally or politically.
stephanie ruhle
Trump is in the process of building his own parliamentary force.
Tom Nichols, a retired professor at the U.S. Naval War, told him, quote, he is acclimating people to the notion that the military is his private army, unconstrained by law, unconstrained by norms, unconstrained by American traditions.
unidentified
Breaking news out of Mecklenburg County, Charlotte-Meckleburgh school leaders are sharing the number of student absences from its campuses today.
They say nearly 21,000 students were not in school today.
That accounts for 15% of students enrolled across the district.
CMS officials are not saying whether the mass absences are tied to the Border Patrol enforcement operations across the city.
Queen City News will be digging a little deeper.
stephanie ruhle
This plan is right out there in the open.
Can you break it down for us?
pete wehner
Yeah, sure.
I think it's in the open in two respects.
One is, you know, leading up to the election, this was not a state secret that Trump was going to use authoritarian tactics.
We know what happened on January 6th.
We know what happened in his first term.
And then we know what he said during the campaign itself.
So, you know, I don't credit Trump for very much, but I credit him for this.
He was straightforward in what he said would happen.
And then secondly, is what's happened since he's been in office.
We've never seen anything like it in American history.
It's an attack on the civic, political institutions of America, on the rule of law.
And it is a multi-front attack.
And as you know, because you follow the news so closely every day, it is everywhere.
It's the politicization and weaponization of the Department of Justice and the FBI.
It's the use of the paramilitary force.
It's the attack on the law firms.
It's attack on the universities.
It's attack on the media.
You know, you just go down the line.
So my view is that we're in the early stages of a police state, sort of soft authoritarianism.
And I'm worried that we can drop the modifiers pretty soon.
jonathan karl
As Trump lands in Milwaukee for the convention, he's, you know, his convention's about to start.
He's just been shot in the ear.
All this stuff is going on.
And he's still going back and forth.
He had basically decided JD Vance, like earlier that day, when he landed in Milwaukee, I was told point blank that it was like 80, 90% Marco Rubio.
So you had this push-in pool.
You had Rupert Murdoch, Lindsey Graham, and a whole group of Republicans allied with them pushing to say, you know, J.D. doesn't have the experience.
Marco is perfect for you.
Marco can help you more electorally.
J.D. doesn't win over any new voters for you.
On the other side, you had Donald Trump Jr., Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, all making the case for JD Vance.
And I actually called Tucker Carlson to ask about this.
It had been reported by the New York Times that one of the arguments that Tucker Carlson had made was that if you pick somebody like Marco Rubio that the establishment likes, they're going to assassinate you.
He made this case before, Butler.
They're going to kill you so this guy becomes president.
So I talked to Tucker about this.
He said, Yeah, that's the case I made, among other things.
But like, you know, they hate, basically, basically the argument is the establishment hates JD Vance as much as they hate you.
That's the guy you should have.
stephanie ruhle
That our institutions are willing to check him.
What happens if essentially no one or few push back on him in a real way?
pete wehner
Well, I think then the American experiment begins to die.
You know, America's not going to disappear.
It's much, much, much too strong, much too big.
But the country that we've known and the more perfect union that people have strived for, that is going to end.
Now, whether that can be reversed or not, nobody knows.
But we haven't had a president with this degree of power and with this amount of unchecked power before.
And as you said, the collapse of institutions across the board is really frightening.
And that includes the media, which is somewhat surprising to me.
But in the end of the day, I think people are afraid.
They're scared.
They're cutting deals.
So he doesn't target them.
I understand that impulse, but at the end of the day, it's a troubling one because there will be an enormously high price.
This country matters.
The ideals of this country matter.
The good that this country has done matters.
The best history matters.
And if we give up on that because of lassitude, because of cynicism, it'll be a terrible thing.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
It's Tuesday, 18 November, the year of our Lord 2025.
We're going to be going to the White House in the 11 o'clock hour.
The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, the titular, basically the head of the country, is going to arrive.
A lot of fanfare, all-day meetings, dinner tonight.
Brian Glenn will be there, our White House correspondent, but we have tons of analysis and observers are going to come on.
We've also got Mark Mitchell will be in studio in a while, the post-polster over at Rasmussen.
I want to start, though, with Eric Trump.
Eric, we wanted to play a very special cold open for you to see the absurdity, since you're the author of the book Under Siege and know what a police state does when they come after a family, come after individuals.
How do you take, because it's almost laughable, but it's serious still how they go after the president every day.
It's just nonstop authoritarian.
This guy's a dictator.
On and on and on.
Your thoughts, sir?
eric trump
Well, listen, Steve.
I mean, first of all, my thoughts are the MAG movement is the strongest it's ever been right now.
I mean, listen, I won the New York Times number one bestseller by hundreds of thousands of books.
It wasn't even damn close, right?
It means that people are pissed off.
It means that people understand what's happening.
And every single day, I'm getting letters about the book saying, I'm so glad I read that.
It opened my eyes to exactly who these people are and the game that they play and the lows that they're willing to stoop to to otherwise destroy your family.
And Steve, I think you'll be the first one to say this New York Times did not want to make me number one.
And they did not want to make me number one and put me on that list many, many, many weeks over.
So this has become one of the best books of the year and one of the most successful books of the year.
And that shows that the movement is alive and well.
But they've done everything they could to try and take out my father, right?
You and I have talked about this a million times.
And you lived it.
You personally lived it because the same state that went after my father and me and our entire family.
you know, went after you and they went after you viciously.
Why?
Because you liked to Donald Trump, because you believed in Donald Trump, because you believed in the Constitution, because you believed in faith in society, because you believed in an American flag, because you believed in keeping America the number one country anywhere in the world, hands down, bar none, not losing that, not allowing the corruption, and having backbone where you'll actually confront these people and speak up to it.
That's why they went after you like a dog.
That's why they went after us like a dog.
And it all started with us first with the Russia hoax, and then it was the dirty dossier, and then it was impeachment number one and impeachment number two.
And they went after Kavanaugh like he was an animal, and then they decided to de-platform us.
I mean, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, they all canceled us.
You know this better than anybody.
And then it was the 91 indictments, and it was my 112 subpoenas.
I became the most subpoenaed person in American history for doing absolutely nothing wrong.
And then after that, it was let's pull him off the ballot in Maine.
Let's pull him off the ballot in Colorado.
And let's raid Mar-a-Lago, and let's raid Melania's room, and let's raid Barron's room.
And, you know, let's continue to go after his voice.
And let's put his mugshot, you know, on t-shirts and try and embarrass him in front of the entire world.
Let's make him take a mugshot.
And then it was Fannie Willis and her boyfriend Nathan Wade.
And then it was Letitia James.
And then it's Alvin Bragg.
And then it's Jack Smith and planting classified folders in Mar-a-Lago.
And where do you want me to stop?
I mean, I could go on, I could spend the rest of the hour talking about how they came after us viciously.
And then when that didn't work, they tried to kill him in Butler.
And when that didn't work, they tried to kill him at the golf course in Palm Beach.
And when that didn't work, they killed Charlie Kirk because he had a powerful voice and he was amazing.
And when that didn't work, they tried to lock up all of us.
They certainly wanted me in jail.
Obviously, everybody knows what they did to you on this show and everybody else in my father's inner circle.
And then they tried to bankrupt my father.
And then they tried to, I mean, this is under siege.
This is what they wanted, Steve.
This is what the other party does.
They have no platform.
They have no message.
They have no leadership.
Their policies suck.
They're terrible.
Not a single person in the country, maybe, I don't know, 1% believe that men should swim in women's sports.
This was not popular policy.
But yet they were willing to weaponize every aspect of the federal government to try and either bankrupt, imprison, mute somebody, make them voiceless, take away their ability to campaign, hold them in courthouses every single day during a campaign to give their political opponent an advantage, because that's what the deep state wanted.
That's who all these people are, and America understands it, and that's why this went to number one, hands down, bar none.
And that's why my father is the strongest he's ever been right now, Steve.
And I couldn't be more proud of the guy.
I mean, he had absolute backbone, absolute fortitude.
No one, no one could have went through what this man went through.
steve bannon
I think, by the way, I'll do the math later, but I think the book itself was such a blowout.
I think you were higher than the cumulative next three or four on the New York Times.
So they couldn't say no because it sold so many books.
And we know the audience.
eric trump
I think it was actually more than that.
Steve, if you were to count, I think it was probably the entire list.
I mean, that's how well the book did.
We sold 135,000 copies in the first five days.
New York Times bestseller list, number one is normally like, you know, 19,000, 20,000, 21,000, somewhere there.
And so, yeah, I think we probably sold more copies than the entire list combined.
We're number one on Amazon.
We're number one on Ever.
But you know what?
It shows the sentiment of this country.
This country was pissed off.
Listen, I never thought I'd be a number one best-selling author.
I'm a guy who builds buildings, and people are legitimately pissed off at the story.
And I wrote it with heart and soul.
I did not mince words.
And I guarantee you, by writing it, I pissed off a lot of people.
steve bannon
No, and I want to, the reason I thank you so much for coming on today.
I want people to buy this book continue.
I wanted to give it as a gift.
And particularly for the MAGA part of the audience, I want you to share this over Thanksgiving.
I want you to share it over the Christmas holidays, maybe with those relatives that are not exactly MAGA or pro-Trump, and just walk them through it.
I think people need to see the details.
There's no place that I've seen, and I've read all of them, Eric, that I've seen, you've condensed the entire story.
Just tell the story about when you came out from court that day and you were sitting in the back seat of the car with the president, because I think it's one of the most powerful parts of the book, what the conversation between you guys in the future, between you two, about the futures.
eric trump
By the way, that's one of the things I love about you, Steve, the fact that you dove into it and really read every word of it.
And first of all, I appreciate that.
It means a lot.
Most people that do this kind of thing don't, right?
But yeah, listen, I wouldn't leave my father's side in those courthouses.
In fact, I often became the conduit for him because he was gag ordered so oftentimes that sometimes I was the only guy that had the voice and could run out on the courthouse steps and shout into the air while the entire media and the entire world watched about what a sham these cases were.
But he had just been convicted of 34 felony counts.
We've had every one of them overturned since.
So they've all been overturned.
But he stands up.
I'm right next to him.
He turns around.
He shakes my hand.
And we walk out together and we hop in the car and we're going up the FDR Drive.
Many people know the FDR Drive, which is kind of on the east side of Manhattan.
It's a highway that takes you all the way north.
And he looks at me, he goes, honey, I'm not sure how, but somehow we're going to win this whole thing.
And when he was talking about winning the whole thing, he was talking about obviously the court case on one hand, because it was just 34 felony counts.
And on the other side, it was win the presidency.
And I said, Pops, it's either the White House or you and I are both in jail for doing absolutely nothing wrong.
Like, that's how wide the pendulum was.
It was either you were going to be at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue or we were going to be thrown in a jail for doing nothing wrong all because they wanted him off that stage.
Again, no different than they wanted Charlie off that stage.
No different than they tried to kill my father to get us off the stage.
No different than I became subpoenaed 112 times because they wanted me off that stage.
And, you know, it was a White House or it was jail.
I firmly believe that that's how wide this was.
And thank God the entire country realized what they were doing to him and they didn't like it.
They didn't like it.
They didn't think it was right.
They didn't think it was fair.
They didn't think it was just.
And they, you know, so be careful of the law of unintended consequences in life, right?
I'm a big believer in that.
You know, sometimes the things that you think are going to make sense for a whole lot of reasons, like the Democrats thought that persecuting Donald Trump would, they actually turned the guy into a martyr.
I mean, they truly turned him into a martyr.
And that's why we won every swing state.
That's why we won the popular vote.
That's why every state in the country went to the right by a lot.
That's why we won Miami-Dade by 11 points.
That's why we won counties in California that had never been won by a conservative ever before.
That's why we had this blowout victory, as much as Kamala doesn't like to admit that.
I think she likes to say, what was her exact line, Steve, that it was the closest election of our time.
I think Al Gore would probably disagree with that, but it wasn't a close election.
It was an absolute blowout.
And people in this country were pissed off at what they were seeing.
And they came out in record numbers and put my father back in office.
steve bannon
You know, you're the most subpoenaed guy in corporate America.
They try to bankrupt your father.
They did all this.
I want to bring up an unpleasant topic because of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
We saw last night, I think Jonathan Carl was at the 92nd Street Wide last night that tells a story about the assassination, whether that's fake news or true.
Let's just believe somebody mentions assassination.
This is as early as back before President Trump even got the second nomination or got the second nomination before the general election started.
Then you had Miranda Devine had this stunning breaking news about the guy in Butler and about being a furry and associated with the transgender, this radical transgender ideology.
Do you think the apparatus has done enough in the investigations and starting to try to at least connect dots, if there are dots to connect, about the assassination attempts on your father?
Because this is one of the things I'm most concerned about.
These people, there is nothing, they will stop at nothing.
If you read the book Under Siege by Eric Trump, and I want people to read it, I want people to give it for a Christmas gift.
This is something particularly all MAGA people should know these, know chapter and verse what went on in detail.
More importantly, you should give it to your family and your friends that are maybe not MAGA, or particularly those that are not pro-Trump to let them see what the president went through.
But since Charlie Kirk was assassinated in cold blood in front of the world, are you concerned that maybe the apparatus of the FBI, the DNI, CIA, all of it are not spending enough time in getting to the bottom of at least the two assassination attempts on the president, sir?
eric trump
Dave, I'm pissed off.
I think you know I'm pissed off.
I spent a lot of the book talking about how pissed off I am at what happened.
I mean, I'm a competitive shooter.
It's a world I know as well as just about anybody out there that does what I do.
A 130-yard shot with a modern-day rifle with modern-day optics is a chip shot.
A competent shooter will touch tolls every single time, right?
This is not a hard shot.
And the fact that he hit my father's ear and missed his head is by the grace of God, right?
I mean, two seconds later, you saw the American flag fold up right above his head.
I'm pissed off.
It's unacceptable.
It should have never happened.
Now you had amazing agents.
The agents that rushed that stage, I know every single one of them are spectacular.
That's the best of the Secret Service.
The CS teams, the counter sniper teams, right?
Shot the guy in the head from, by the way, much farther because they were on the opposite side.
Those guys were amazing.
Is there any question that the higher ups in the Secret Service, Kimberly Cheadle, who was lying the next day about why somebody wasn't on the roof because of the slope of the roof, which was BS because you had 80-year-old congressmen walking on that roof two days later?
Give me a break.
Yes, I'm pissed off.
I'm pissed off we didn't know more about this.
Here's what I'll say.
I know Cash very, very well.
Cash has been a friend of mine for a very long time.
And when it was not popular, Cash was doing events with me all over the country.
In fact, you did many of those same events, right?
The three of us did many of those events.
We did the Reawaken Torror events.
We did a lot of them.
Cash was by my side.
I believe in Cash.
He was a guy who was there with us through thick and thin.
And I've talked to him about it.
And I'm satisfied with what he's told me.
I also love Dan Bongino.
Bongino has been a friend of mine for a long time.
He's a patriotic guy.
And you know this very well.
He was doing extremely well between Fox and his podcast.
He did not need to go take this job.
And he's not there to lie, right?
He's not there to lie about things.
So, you know, does it surprise me at all that this guy was transgender, that this guy believed in furries?
No, not at all.
I mean, look, I'm going to say something that's extremely controversial, but it's true.
Look at the vast majority of the school shooters in recent years.
And they fall into one of those categories, right?
And that's incredibly sad.
And there's no question that there's a pandemic.
And there's no question that there's a mental health pandemic in this country, which is causing people to do that.
But I do believe in Cash.
I do believe in Bongino.
They're both personal friends of mine.
I've known them for years and years and years.
And I don't think I would be lied to.
At the same time, they should release every single detail they can on who this person is.
And I think they're starting to do that.
I mean, Cash put out a big tweet the other night, which you probably saw.
steve bannon
Yep.
Eric, where do people go to get the book?
Where do they go?
Is there any, are you going on a book signing tour?
And I realize the security of that must be intense, but are you going anywhere people can see you?
And what's your social media?
People want, and everybody should get this book, get it to someone for Christmas, and you should sit down and discuss it with your family.
Not just read it, but you should have an open discussion.
When you see what happened to our country, how they came after President Trump, you understand the level of turnaround that we have to have.
Eric Trump, where do we go to get the book?
To find you to social media.
eric trump
Steve, go to Amazon.
Honestly, Barnes and Noble's has been playing games.
A lot of the other bookstores have been playing games.
Many of the locations are good.
Many of them, their employees will bury them in the background, pretend they don't have the book, even though it's the number one book in the country by far, by 20X, right?
I mean, these are the games.
Amazon's been amazing.
Just go buy your book on Amazon.
I'm done with the Barnes Noble.
With many of the other, you walk in there.
My wife walked into one the other day.
It was nowhere to be found.
You have the whole New York Times bestseller list there.
And there's just a spot open.
steve bannon
Hang on, stop.
It's got to be at the front of the store.
eric trump
It's the biggest.
steve bannon
It's more than the old 10.
It's got to be broke.
They got to put it out front.
eric trump
Kamala's book has tables and tables and tables of books, and no one's buying that thing, right?
And yet, you walk into Barnes and Noble and you can't find mine in certain locations.
There's certain locations.
But honestly, I'm done with the nonsense.
I'm done with the woe crap.
I'm done with these.
Honestly, Amazon has been incredible.
I sold substantially more books on Amazon than probably that entire list did combined.
And so just go on Amazon, pick up your book.
They're amazing.
If you're in a red state, you might be able to find it at Barnes and Noble and those if they're not playing good games and screwing around.
But go on Amazon and obviously add Eric Trump on all the social handles.
And Steve, we love you to death, man.
Thanks for fighting the hard fight.
And you do so well every single day.
And you never coward, Steve.
You never coward.
And by the way, virtually everybody coward.
I never cowered.
My father never cowered.
You never cowered.
You know, I could probably count on two hands the number of people who really were there thick and thin, especially based on the nonsense that they put you through.
No different than the nonsense that they were putting us through.
And just know that we love you.
We appreciate you.
And thanks for having the voice that you do.
steve bannon
Eric, thank you so much for coming on.
Look forward to having you back here, sir.
Eric Trump.
The book under siege.
Every MAGA person, you get this book, you read it, you'll be shocked.
Some of the details you don't know.
It's an insider's view, but share it with the family and discuss it.
You want to open the eyes of the American people and a lot of stuff going on.
Have them read this book.
Because you were there.
This audience, you were there.
You talk about the years in the wilderness.
It's unbelievable what this family went through and to know he's back in there right now.
Okay, do we have Brian Glenn?
Let's go to Brian Glenn.
Brian, White House today, 11 o'clock.
We're going to be covering it wall to wall.
There for the entire day, I think.
Dinner tonight, meetings throughout the day.
Walker, so give us the highlight reel, sir.
brian glenn
Okay, well, good morning.
It's 10.22 now, scheduled for 11 o'clock.
And all this is on paper, Steve.
And as you know, things are subject to change.
Now, behind me is the traditional steakout right in front of the West Wing, but the arrival today is going to 100% take place on the south line.
Let me go over the schedule real quickly.
11 o'clock is when we should see the arrival begin at about 11.08.
I've been told we're going to have F-35 planes flying over the White House.
steve bannon
Brian, Brian, Harry, I just want to set the stage for people.
Normally, we do the bylats, right?
And we do them right where Brian is.
We always tee it up early.
The bylaw comes.
The president comes out on the west wing, kind of the working side.
This is a more formal, when you use the south lawn in that huge circular driveway, this is when it's kind of showtime, right?
So today will be a much bigger display with the Saudi, essentially the ruler of Saudi Arabia, showing up.
It's not going to be a West Wing.
Come in.
We're going to have a working meeting.
This is an all-day, and the president's going out of his way to show what a big deal this is, sir.
brian glenn
He really is.
He actually describes it.
It's more than a meeting.
And of course, you normally, like you described, we'd have Color Guard here, but this is all going to take place in the South Lawn.
But if you go over, you look at the timeline here, it starts at 11, but he doesn't greet him until around 11.15.
So you've got maybe 12, 13, 14 minutes of some pageantry with F-35s.
I've even been told we've got about a dozen large horses from the Arlington brigade there escorting the motorcade in on the south lawn.
So it's going to be something spectacular to watch.
Now, I will say this, Steve, and this is kind of inside baseball here.
Very restricted press to cover this on the South Lawn.
I've been told one still photographer, one video, and one editorial is only allowed on that South Lawn entrance.
So it's going to be very limited.
Of course, we'll have a feed for that as well.
At 11.45, they go into a bilateral meeting in the Oval Office that is open to White House press at 12.15.
They have lunch and they depart at 2 p.m. only to come.
And they'll depart, by the way, right behind me.
Now, that departure is at the traditional stakeout location.
And their arrival back at 6.40 will be back at, if I'm not mistaken, back on the South Lawn.
So you will have one opportunity as far as the general press here at 2 o'clock to see the departure.
But big, big pageantry laid out for this Crown Prince.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Shouldn't be launching the F-35s that are flying over the flyover, I think, are part of the deal.
One of the controversies that we're going to talk about today is that there was a discussion that the arms deal and these other deals would be held off contingent upon acceptance of or agreement with or signing of the Abraham Accords, which is the architecture that Jarrett set up years ago.
That's kind of this overall kind of economic logistics infrastructure that's really the underpinning of this Middle East peace deal that's in regarding Gaza.
We'll get into more of this later.
But my understanding is there's not going to be an announcement on the Abraham Accords, and we'll drill down on that, although the F-35 is going to be there.
When the president, as it's scheduled now, Brian, will the president actually have press into the Oval Office in that first set of meetings?
And do you expect him to throw it open to the press for questions?
brian glenn
I think it will.
That takes place out of the schedule at 11.45 bilateral meeting in the Oval Office with White House Press.
I would imagine, like any other bilateral meeting he's had in the past, he will open it up for questions.
So I think he's typically, so I expect that.
Now, there are some high-profile guests that are rumored to be attending tonight's dinner.
Tiger Woods was mentioned.
I saw on one reports along with Christian Ronaldo, a world-famous soccer player as well, being rumored to appear.
I've not had any confirmations on that at all, but this is a spectacular event.
And also talking about this $600 billion investment by the Saudis in U.S. on AI and other infrastructure projects.
So they'll be talking about that as well.
But those F-35s will fly over here around 11.08 this morning, a little over less than an hour from now.
steve bannon
When we finish with you, you're going to reposition, or is the press going to be able to reposition on the South Lawn to see the entry?
unidentified
No.
brian glenn
No, sir.
There's only three from what I've been told.
It's a very restricted.
This is the first time I've ever seen the word restricted press.
We've got one video, one still photographer, and one editorial, one reporter, if you will, will be on the South Lawn.
So we'll be able to take a poll feed for that.
Now, it will be coming, if I'm not mistaken, it'll be coming from the north to south.
So it will be flying over the White House going towards the monument.
So we'll have our cameras ready for that.
But it is a very restricted, and I don't know why that is.
If it's going to be so visual, why not put as many media at least put the White House press poll out there?
But, you know, well, that's what they decided to do.
But it's going to be spectacular.
From what I understand, they had a little bit of a dress rehearsal yesterday, and it's going to be rather visual.
steve bannon
Caroline Levitt, I think, has got a complaints box right outside her office.
Why don't you just go right, fill out a complaint or a tip box?
Give her a tip.
Hey, maybe we have more press today.
Brian Glenn, social media, brother.
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I'll have as much behind the scenes as I can today, especially for that flyover.
And we see some Saudi guests that are kind of outside the security gate here that just came on the grounds.
That's going to increase, I would imagine, as the day goes along.
And we'll keep our eyes out for any other celebrities.
And I will say this: there are Saudi Arabia and U.S. flags all over this whole White House area, up and down Pennsylvania Avenue as well.
So they're definitely rolling out the red carpet for the Saudi prince.
And it seems like security here, as you would expect around this area, is tightened as well.
steve bannon
Brian Glenn, we'll see you in a little while at the White House.
Thank you, sir.
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steve bannon
Okay, so Mark Mitchell's in town, and when he's in town, we want him here.
So he's going to be, you're going to be hanging with us, and we've got the Saudi, the head, essentially, the head of the Saudi government is going to be at 11 o'clock, and it's quite pomp and ceremony.
In your concept of the fourth turning and what's going on in this young generation, look at the focus.
The one thing President Trump is doing when, because I say the Middle East is a sideshow to the main geopolitical events of the day in that Israel situation is a sideshow to a sideshow.
However, he is bringing, he is kind of bringing peace by putting it back on them.
Today, the Saudis are not going to sign, I don't think, the Abraham Accords.
I think they're still going to sit there and go that's contingent upon a two-state, a really acceptance of a Palestinian state.
Although I put up on Getter, kind of mocking the Israel First crowd, who I think blew this thing up, that essentially what got passed in the Security Council yesterday is a two-state solution.
had all the Muslims, the Turks, the Arabs all come together back to the United States on this Gaza plan where the Qatar is going to finance it with other, and the Turks are going to provide security.
In fact, the International Security Force was in this thing.
It got signed off yesterday.
It means the Turks are going to manage the Saudi army, the UAE troops, Egypt's in a foothold in Israel, but that's, and the Israelis were not part of this negotiation, at least in the Security Council.
How does that play into polling where you've been saying, hey, in this fourth turning, particularly this rising generation think there's a country been sold from, whether he's delivering peace or not, they're not interested.
They're interested in something else.
Is that too harsh?
mark mitchell
No, I think that's right.
And I think if you talk to Trump, he would tell you that all this foreign stuff is also domestic policy.
But I don't think people understand that case and that it hasn't been made.
steve bannon
It hasn't been made?
You don't think it's been made?
mark mitchell
It's been made well enough because there was a lot of freak out when I think at the end of October, going into an election day, the government was shut down and he's flying around the world meeting with dignitaries.
And people look at Trump and say, wow, he's interested in all these rich people overseas, but what's happening on the home front?
And he's doing a lot on the home front.
Stephen Miller was out there yesterday talking about Project Firewall and an attempt to reduce the number of workers here on visa.
That's really big stuff, but I didn't even know about it.
Well, it kind of went by in September.
Nobody even knows.
steve bannon
But he was supposed to – Because they haven't platformed it or promoted it enough.
unidentified
Right.
mark mitchell
Right.
He was supposed to end the wars, get us out of all these foreign entanglements and focus solely on the domestic front.
And I think he's done a lot of work domestically, but they aren't bringing people along for the ride, in my opinion.
steve bannon
You mean, it's not an actions thing.
This is literally messaging because you've got to make it a big deal.
The Saudis are supposedly going to talk about a $600 billion fund that's going to invest in particularly AI manufacturing, chip manufacturing, other things here in the United States.
Do you think he's promoting that well enough?
mark mitchell
Yeah, I mean, that's not what I would focus on.
A deal with billionaires that might take people's jobs.
Because I polled under 40 voters.
steve bannon
That's AI.
mark mitchell
I polled the under 40 voters.
And even ones that voted for Trump by a majority would sign on for UBI because of artificial intelligence.
And so that's where the conservative youth are at.
unidentified
They're looking to come when you say UBI, explain that to the audience.
mark mitchell
Universal basic income as a solution to all of our problems.
We have a corporatist oligarchy that's basically created corporate welfare that's built all the wealth out of the American people.
They've sent millions of jobs overseas.
They've brought in millions of foreign workers, decaying our societal fabric, all for a 10% reduction in the cost of goods sold.
And that's where we're at.
I mean, literally, SNAP is all corporate welfare.
All of these bipartisan bailout recovery and infrastructure deals are all pay-for-play and contracts.
And it's literally just global welfare.
steve bannon
Because you're saying SNAP is not so much about feeding the people that maybe need it, but it's Frito-Lay, it's Pepsi, it's all the guys making the junk food that Walmart, the distribution system, and the producer itself.
This is why when the SNAP benefits get talked about, it's not alliances of poor people up here knocking on doors.
It's the biggest lobbyists in town because SNAP drives, I think, 20% of Walmart's profitability.
And it's basically 40%, I think, of the operating income because what they're selling is the ultra-processed food that has these super high margins.
mark mitchell
Just the 500,000 people on SNAP that was fraudulent that Brooke Rollins found, just those people.
If you took all that fraud out, that would be the equivalent of if every Walmart in the United States stopped selling milk products.
So we're talking about big dollars here.
And there was a Guardian article that says, well, listen, when the corporations have a problem, they will go to Republican lobbyists and Republican fake pollsters to do research that I can't replicate that shows that, yes, Republicans love the idea of people buying soda on food stamps.
And so when you surround yourself with- You think that's fake?
steve bannon
When you see those, you think that's fake news?
mark mitchell
I found the exact opposite signal, and this is going to be.
steve bannon
What did you find?
Because I agree with you.
People hate the fact that they're buying junk food and they're getting it underwritten by the government, and the companies are making all the money.
mark mitchell
Yeah, I think it was a signal in the 60s.
But everybody in Washington, D.C. makes some fake libertarian argument, and that's not how the real world works.
People are angry, and they don't like this money going to the corporations.
So again, meeting with these dignitaries, probably better for Americans, whatever deal he's working on.
But the messaging has kind of been all over the place, and he is doing the right things.
He needs to explain, I think, to the American people, this is our plan.
This is where it's going to go.
And you need to vote for Republicans if you want to keep it.
That's the problem is the Republicans.
I'm really worried about the future of the generic ballot polling.
And again, I haven't been in the field.
The numbers have been dropping over the last couple of weeks.
Rich Barris has some horrifying numbers, and everybody's beating him up online right now because he puts out a Senate map that looks really bad.
It puts places like Ohio in a toss-up.
Well, if Ohio goes to the Democrats, what's one of the reasons it goes to the Democrats?
steve bannon
I think Sherrod Brown's going to be very competitive in Ohio, don't you?
mark mitchell
Well, I'm talking Vivek.
steve bannon
No, that's governor's race.
mark mitchell
Oh, yeah.
steve bannon
Yeah, the governor's race, I think, is a toss-up.
But I think Sherrod Brown on the, I think Sherrod Brown's running for the Senate.
I think it's going to be awesome.
mark mitchell
It's a Republican state.
Republicans should win, run on a MAGA platform.
But it's like, well, also don't.
steve bannon
His generic ballot, and I don't think we're giving away Rich's latest thing.
I think his generic ballot is Democrats plus eight, so D plus eight.
So you're talking unless we get the redistricting.
Are you concerned that the redistricting efforts that seem to be failing because they're basically telling President Trump they're not going to do it?
Is that an indicator of the more traditional wing of the Republican Party not coming all in on this midterm election?
mark mitchell
They're just not in the fight.
They're playing checkers when the Democrats are playing chess, I think.
I think they started a game of Smash Mouth and they weren't up for it.
And now you have Prop 50 and everybody thought, oh, well, is Prop 50 going to pass?
Well, obviously, the Democrats need to be 30 points.
Yeah, it was never positive in a single poll once.
And it's a thing that Democrats need in a Democrat stronghold.
So obviously.
And so, again, I thought, fine, redistrict, but it looked kind of bad to lose this war asymmetrically over years and decades and then say, well, this is our plan A when gerrymandering looks bad.
People don't like gerrymandering.
I think we had a 70% signal that said that, no, this is not Democratic.
And then when we asked people, well, which party is more likely to gerrymander, guess what the answer is?
It's Republicans because they're the ones talking about it.
So they basically created a big issue, lost on it, and they made what should have been plan D, plan A.
Well, plan A should have been legislate.
Now I'm looking at Steve Scalise's map for next year, 95 days of legislation till the midterm.
unidentified
You mean 95 days of the session.
mark mitchell
It's not a lot of time.
steve bannon
Well, not to the midterm.
You're telling them to get through the end of the year and then into the first part of the year.
mark mitchell
No, that's next year's calendar, Jan 1.
steve bannon
I have not seen that yet.
The calendar, I saw a calendar went to the end of the year.
It was pretty bad.
And they have, listen, the reality is we're not going to get to a budget deal.
You're not going to get appropriations between now and January 20th.
It's going to get kicked down.
I think the Democrats are going to sit there because of the hit that President Trump's going to take in the economy because you're going to miss the fourth quarter numbers because of the government shutdown.
Schumer, these guys who don't care about the American people will logically try to shut down the government again.
mark mitchell
I've talked to people about where the state of the economy is.
I used to follow this stuff.
And I think that it's a lot of risk of exogenous shocks.
Let's put it that way.
And I think.
steve bannon
What does that mean?
mark mitchell
Well, you know, something could just happen and all of a sudden this House of Cards comes crashing down.
There is.
steve bannon
You mean events?
mark mitchell
Yeah, there are objectively asset bubbles in the country right now.
And people in government probably don't want those asset bubbles at risk.
But, you know.
steve bannon
You say asset bubbles.
Are you concerned about this whole AI and the data centers and all that?
Because Wall Street's been going through a couple of days of real turbulence here.
They're waiting for the NVIDIA earnings tomorrow.
NVIDIA is telling people they got half a trillion dollars, $500 billion in orders already for advanced chips.
But, you know, people are very concerned about the kind of the cycle that somebody raises money, they buy things, and it's all tied up in the AI bubble.
And Wall Street right now is getting quite concerned whether stuff's vastly overpriced.
mark mitchell
Well, I think there's an aspect probably, and again, I don't follow this as closely as I used to when I was in the financial industry, of momentum traders, of retail investors bidding up the hot stock, concentrating all of the wealth in our financial markets into a very limited set of actual companies.
They have a lot of power over the government, by the way.
And then also the housing situation, where I think that's a concern to the government, is we can't endanger the housing market.
Well, we talked about this last night.
I think the median home buyer age in this country is 59 years old.
That's who's buying houses.
steve bannon
First-time home buyers are over 40.
mark mitchell
40 for the first time.
steve bannon
First time.
It used to be in the mid to early 20s.
mark mitchell
You got to get out of college, and your average human slaves away for 18 hours or 18 hours.
steve bannon
18 years before they can buy a home.
mark mitchell
Before they can buy a home.
And it's like, okay, they probably already have multiple kids if they were going to have kids.
And Elon Musk is out there saying we have to populate the earth.
We're not at replacement levels.
And it's like, I'm sorry, you're the richest guy on earth telling these people they have kids when they can't even buy a house.
Nobody wants that housing market touched.
But the best thing that probably would happen for the youth is a controlled detonation.
steve bannon
When you say controlled detonation, walk me through because you were around, you had an insider's view as a grandoon for the 2008 collapse.
In fact, you kind of were one of those guys that saw it coming a little bit in advance by all the madness you saw going on.
Do you think the NVIDIA and the AI bubble is equivalent to the dot-com bubble in 2000 or to the financial bubble that we went through in 2008?
mark mitchell
You know, I don't know how to objectively measure and compare, but to me, it feels like the world has more guns pointed at the head of the American people because of the way we've become globally interconnected, because of the way that all these people have leverage over us, because of the fact that we have probably millions of CCP people in the country working in the highest levels of our corporations.
We've given away our technology industry to a member of our competing currency block.
Like these things matter, and it gives people leverage over us.
And 100%, I think, things like, for instance, our situation with rare earth behind the scenes is causing a mismatch of leverage and giving Americans kind of the shaft in certain ways.
And it's hard to know, obviously.
Yeah, you know, what I saw in 2000, I didn't tell you this last night, but when I got out of the Navy, I actually worked for a major home builder for two weeks in the spring of 2006.
And the first edge of the wave, this was one of those home builders that says, you know, yeah, we're customer first.
We have a customer service team.
We're going to help you pick out your faucet and your marble countertop.
And I was excited to go to my first customer meeting.
I'm like, I'm going to meet all these people who are buying houses.
And I went to the first one and the guy, you know, he has a sheet of everybody in the sub-development.
And he's like, well, Tony from Long Island just pulled on 10 of these units and gave up his deposit.
It was all investors.
And they just walked.
And I'm like, okay, well, I left.
I quit that company.
steve bannon
You think you're going to sit there and meet Mr. and Mrs. Middle Class America.
You got nothing but speculators.
mark mitchell
Yeah, now it's all Blackstone.
steve bannon
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Let's take down.
Turnings are like the seasons.
Every turning is necessary.
We discovered a recurring pattern, and implicit in that pattern of generational recurrence, the idea of a rhythm, a pattern, a sequence of events that comes around again.
Nature likes cycles.
Cities are founded, cities collapse.
States rise, states fall.
Families can prosper, families can wither.
All follow certain repeating cyclical patterns.
We end up inventing new cycles.
So we have the financial market cycle, we have traffic cycles, we have all kinds of modern high-tech cycles which we simply create.
There are four turnings, each one roughly 20 years or so long.
So an entire four turnings, or a saeculum, lasts about 80 to 100 years.
Turnings that are launched by a so-called crisis war.
It's a time when there's a lot of genocide, a lot of killing, a lot of starvation, usually a lot of disease.
It's the worst times in history.
And once one of those is over, everybody, both the victors and the losers, make a vow that was so horrible, it should never be allowed to happen again.
That's really the key to understanding what happens next.
The first turning is the high, like the 50s that comes after the crisis.
It's a period of consolidation.
It's a period of stable families and stable family structures.
Lots of kids are born.
Lots of infrastructure is built.
But emotional life becomes more or less dead and begins to die out.
Baby boomers have no memory of World War II.
Their childhood was the American high.
Next comes the awakening.
The perfect little children of the high, like the boom generation, become young adults.
They came of age during that period of rapid social and cultural change when we changed everything about how we felt, how we thought, how we talked, how we dressed.
We changed America's feelings about itself, our moral agenda.
Suddenly, their emotions break out and all hell breaks loose.
This became a generation of great passion, of youth anger that marked a rise in every age in drug use, teen pregnancy, crime, risk-taking, suicide.
Then comes the unraveling.
In the awakening, the eternal truths, the verities that are built up in the high, the values, are questioned.
That process accelerates during the unraveling, and restraints are broken down in personal life and economic life and political life.
Unravelings in America have certain common characteristics.
They tend to be erased of a lot of economic speculation and more and more stronger boom and bust cycles.
For example, line that up with the 1920s or go back to the 1850s in America.
Go back to the 1760s.
Consider in the 1990s a decade of cynicism and bad manners and public authority seemed to be pretty weak.
repeatedly recurring again these eras that feel very similar.
Now history teaches that usually third turnings finally issue into a fourth turning.
A fourth turning is the crisis, and history shows that if an event doesn't trigger a fourth turning, a fourth turning leader will actually encourage one to happen, or one will simply hit us because of all the the deferred public decisions that weren't made during the recent third turning.
This comes to a head in the fourth turning.
These fourth turnings become new founding moments of our nation's history.
Obviously, one fourth turning was the period of the American Revolution.
Another fourth turning was the Civil War era in which we redefined who we were as a nation.
In World War Ii and the New Deal think of everything that changed in that era.
We reestablished mankind's relationship with technology, government's relationship with the economy, America's relationship with the world.
There's your four.
There are your four turnings, beautiful like pictures.
steve bannon
Generations is zero.
I think of the 2008, so I made that in nine.
mark mitchell
In nine and ten, you told me to read the book and it changed how I looked at really everything, and I talk about that because i've recommended that to a lot of people.
steve bannon
Uh the, the Fourth Turning, and then you've got the latest versions of it.
mark mitchell
Yeah, i'd love to actually talk to that guy.
I tried to reach out to him.
No dice, I can get you to him.
Okay, I mean, I would.
steve bannon
Why did it change?
Why did it change your?
Because the cyclical nature and just the way like you have, the revolution, the Civil War World, the Depression, World War Ii, and now you've got, 80 to 100 years later, the same types of things you're going through.
mark mitchell
Well, it understands, in my opinion, the mindset of the people that took so much from America and now are clinging to it with white knuckles, trying not to let go.
And then also this political realignment and all the energy that poured into Donald Trump's movement.
It was a movement of angry young men.
These are the people that are supposed to be providing for families, you know, building new households, going to work and creating new wealth, and they can't even get their foot in the door.
I just wanted to read this one comment.
This isn't.
We're not talking about lefties.
We're talking about Trump supporters.
I'm at the end of my rope.
I won two internal awards for going above and beyond, two external awards for architecting and leading iT efforts to build online platforms at this company.
We did it with a 3 million budget was laid off in favor of an H-1B holder in February.
I've applied to over 1,000 places and roles and have only had five callbacks.
Most resumes rejected within 48 hours with the ever insulting auto email.
I'm going to likely lose my house, can't even get hired at HOME Depot and I have no reason to live at this point.
This is a MAGA hat guy.
I did what they told me to.
I went to school in the ramp up of tech, worked my way through managing a toy store, paid off my student loan, started at the very bottom, earned everything the hard way and now it's turning.
This company's turning over all of their IT to India, an Indian body shop under direction of the CTO, probably a boomer, who is fired for NIKE for taking kickbacks while outsourcing all their IT to India.
Apparently, Trump, who I lost friends over, voted for three times and actually got into a fight with the Brewers to wear a Trump 47 jersey, throwing out the first pitch on the same day he was shot, tells me essentially I'm stupid.
I deserve this and probably should just die already so that his billionaire buddies can make a few extra bucks.
This is, there's a lot of severity in the MAGA movement, and they're looking at all these optics and there's pain.
And Donald Trump needs to feel that pain and spend less time surrounded by no, and we've got to shut down all the visa scams.
steve bannon
I agree with people that are coming out now and saying, hey, we got to have a 100% limitation on all immigration for at least three to five years to sort this mess out.
HB1 visas should be ended today.
All HB1 visas holders should say, hey, look, we love you guys, but you got to go back home.
And every billet, all 100% of them be filled by American citizens.
You know what?
You won't see any.
You'll see an increase in quality because there's no educational, the whole thing is that, oh, they're more highly educated in this or they've had better job experience all ball face lie.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
Mark Mitchell is with us.
We're going to the White House.
We're going to try to get one of my favorite people.
I'm going to try to fit her in.
She's got a lot to say.
We're going to see what Saudi, what the timing of that is here in the war room calling a couple audibles this morning.
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