Nov. 7, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on this people. | ||
| Here's not got a free shot. | ||
| All these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Good evening. | ||
| Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room. | ||
| Got two very important guests for you this evening. | ||
| First one, bearing in mind that the war room is fundamentally a show geared at the rank and file, is probably someone. | ||
| I'm going to say it like this. | ||
| Probably the most important person speaking to an American audience here, the most important person you've probably never heard of. | ||
| But here's what I want you to do. | ||
| I want you to write down the name and then you're going to discover you see this person absolutely everywhere. | ||
| And the organization that he runs, same thing. | ||
| Might not have heard of it, write it down and you will see it everywhere. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| Everybody who's involved on the right with opinion formation, who goes to conferences, goes to speaking events, will know this organization. | ||
| I've spoken at a couple of events in Hungary myself by the European Conservative. | ||
| My guest is Professor Frank Faradi and his organization is the Matthias Corvinus Collegium. | ||
| Professor Faraday, great honor to get you on the show. | ||
| We've been trying for some time. | ||
| And folks, to give you an indication of just how important this guy is, why don't you tell us, Professor Faraday, what you're doing in DC right now? | ||
| Well, I'm here in DC with the delegation of Prime Minister Victor Orban, who's having a summit meeting with President Trump. | ||
| And I think this relationship is very, very important because it gives conservatism a very powerful international boost. | ||
| I think that these two guys complement each other. | ||
| Victor Orban, the Prime Minister of Hungary, is the bad boy of Europe. | ||
| And President Trump is very similar to him. | ||
| And some people have, in fact, Steve Bannon has called Orban Trump before Trump in a sense that they all have very similar ideas. | ||
| They all have a capacity to move the people. | ||
| They're very charismatic. | ||
| And in a sense, these are two of the guys that we really need if you're going to change the world for the better, if you're going to undermine this very powerful globalist culture that dominates the world and all of its powerful institutions. | ||
| That's absolutely correct. | ||
| And obviously, there is, I mean, by the way, I'll just say that you are the emeritus professor of sociology at the University of Kent at Canterbury in England. | ||
| And England is often referred to as having that special relationship with the United States. | ||
| And historically, that's certainly true. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| I would make the argument that because of the personal charisma and loyalty that Victor Orban showed to Donald Trump, even when Donald Trump was out of power, I would make the argument that in Europe, it's actually Hungary now that deserves that title of having the special relationship. | ||
| And I think you're going to increasingly see, and I say this to our American audience who loves Viktor Orban, by the way, and MAGA loves Viktor Orban. | ||
| I will make this argument that increasingly you are going to see now that reality of the situation become ever more clear. | ||
| One of the reasons I think, I do want to talk to you about the delegation and some of the objectives that the Prime Minister is seeking to promote in the next couple of days. | ||
| But I think it's a sign of the MCC's importance here that you're doing something at the behest of Viktor Orban. | ||
| And this is why I say, folks, that this is an incredibly important organization, though you might not have heard about it. | ||
| It's doing something and it has been charged with doing something by the Prime Minister that I can't see any other leader in the world on the right doing. | ||
| And that's investing directly in an organization to promote the principles that will continue and endure, not only amongst opinion formers today, but crucially in the next generation and the formation of the next generation. | ||
| And it's absolutely incredible. | ||
| And I think he's sort of giving you, the Prime Minister has given the MCC huge amount of support, political support, and obviously financial support as well. | ||
| And that's another reason why, folks, you're going to see that Hungary is increasingly important, pushing above its weight as a relatively small EU country, but culturally, massively, massively important. | ||
| Professor Ferady, let me ask you this about the delegation here. | ||
| There are a number of things that are very close here to MAGA's heart that I know the Prime Minister is going to raise with President Trump. | ||
| Example will obviously be Ukraine. | ||
| I think it's fair to say that Prime Minister Orban has probably had, amongst all the EU countries, the most sane and responsible position with regards to Russia since the start of this war three and a half years ago. | ||
| But the administration, the US administration is going to try, as far as I can tell, to put a bit of pressure, has been doing already on the Hungarian Prime Minister, to open himself towards Ukrainian accession into the European Union as part of the eventual peace talk negotiations. | ||
| I have to say, I am incredibly against Ukraine joining the EU. | ||
| Can you tell us a little bit? | ||
| I know there's also energy implications of interest to the Prime Minister, but can you tell us these two things? | ||
| How confident are you that the Prime Minister will be able to hold the line in negotiations with the President over Ukrainian accession to the EU? | ||
| And then tell us a bit about the liquid natural gas and the whole debate seeking exemptions from imposed by the US on the importation into the West from Russian oil, Russian gas. | ||
| Well, everything that we're interested in is underwritten by a desire to end the war. | ||
| I think the government in Hungary is 120% committed to peace in the area because they realize that the longer that the war continues, the more it can spread, the more it destabilizes Europe, and the more it can have very direct, destructive global implications. | ||
| So that's the bottom line. | ||
| In addition to that, there's the fact that Hungary alone within the European Union has come out quite often against the attempt to bring Ukraine into the European Union. | ||
| Hungary believes that that would be a corrosive development. | ||
| It would undermine the European Union by bringing in a country that essentially is not in a position to play the role of a democratic nation state at this particular stage in time. | ||
| We believe that at the moment Ukraine is a little bit corrupt, a little bit internally unfit to play that kind of a role. | ||
| But more importantly, should Ukraine join the European Union, it would destabilize the relation between Ukraine and Russia forever. | ||
| It would basically mean that the war will never stop. | ||
| You could have ceasefires, but Russia will never tolerate Ukraine becoming potentially an enemy, a permanent enemy at its gate. | ||
| And Hungary has realized this, which is why we've called for different kinds of solutions. | ||
| So that's the first thing. | ||
| I think that there is absolutely no way that the Prime Minister will ever go back on this particular position. | ||
| It's a position of principle in the sense that we want to make sure that peace does prevail eventually. | ||
| And for that to prevail, we have to ensure that the European Union doesn't destabilize the situation by bringing Ukraine in. | ||
| The second problem or issue that will be discussed is the fact that Hungary, a landlocked, small country, is totally dependent upon Russian energy. | ||
| And that's been the case for a very, very long time. | ||
| We've always relied on it. | ||
| We have no other source. | ||
| So we haven't got any access to a sea. | ||
| We are a landlocked nation. | ||
| And therefore, for Hungary to basically stop receiving energy from Russia would have a very catastrophic economic consequence. | ||
| I think for that reason, the Prime Minister has asked or is discussing with President Trump about being given, I suppose, a free pass from joining in the sanctions, because for Hungary, if this terminates, if this deal terminates, it would have a major upheaval in terms of its economic consequences. | ||
| In addition to that, there is an argument that, all right, Hungary should get liquid gas from the United States and other sources. | ||
| And there's nothing wrong with liquid gas, but it just so happens that if Hungary was forced into a situation where it relied on liquid gas, basically the cost of energy would more than double. | ||
| And you can imagine what that would mean to ordinary people if their way of life sort of was so fundamentally transformed by very, very expensive energy. | ||
| And I think there's going to be discussion about that as well as to how to minimize it. | ||
| But I think probably, and this is a little bit intangible, one of the most important things that will be happening in this discussion is an attempt to actually forge a relationship at a different level to cultivate this relationship, because I think the Hungarian delegation believes that the future of Western civilization, I hate to use that word, it sounds very big, but that's really what we're talking about. | ||
| The future of Western civilization at the moment pivots around this relationship that's being forged between the Prime Minister and President Trump. | ||
| And I think a lot of European conservatives are entirely on board with this thing. | ||
| And I know that when I left Brussels, they were all cheering on the delegation and hoping that, you know, whether you're French or Italian or German, if you're a genuine conservative, a patriot, you really want to make sure that this summit actually leads somewhere. | ||
| It kind of represents a very important step into the future. | ||
| So much to break down there, but let's start off with the closing part and work backwards regarding this relationship. | ||
| There are obviously two groups in the European Parliament. | ||
| And you actually see the Patriot, the Patriot contingent in the European Parliament really divided into two. | ||
| And due to his expertise, Prime Minister Viktor Orban actually sort of nudged and negotiated his faction as the larger of the two. | ||
| So he has the Patriots for Europe, which is, as I say, the larger of the two groups. | ||
| And then the other one, the smaller one now, which is the Georgia Maloney faction, both patriotic groups, but very different views. | ||
| I think this is probably the litmus test. | ||
| It's the relationship to NATO generally and the relationship to Ukraine in particular between these two groups. | ||
| When you're saying, because you're based in Brussels, when you're saying that there are a lot of people, there are a lot of conservatives. | ||
| I've just lost your wishing you will. | ||
| Can you hear me now? | ||
| I can hear you. | ||
| Can you hear me? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So I was talking about these two factions in the European Parliament as the Patriot contingent divided by two, into two. | ||
| Between the Patriots for Europe and the European Conservatives, unformed the ECR group, which is Maloney's faction. | ||
| The difference between these two groups is fundamentally NATO and the relationship with regards to Ukraine. | ||
| When you say, Professor Faradi, that the lot of people in Brussels where you're based who are cheering you on, tell me something about this dynamic between these two groupings in the European Parliament and how the personal relationship between President Trump and Prime Minister Orban is and the sort of outer dynamics and consequences of that for these two groupings in Brussels. | ||
| I think that the closer the relationship becomes, the more all sections of the Conservative family in Europe will have to take note. | ||
| I think it's very important for them. | ||
| I think it's a tragedy that there's this division between the European Conservative and Reform Group, the ECR, and the Patriots. | ||
| Because at the end of the day, someone like Georgia Maloney and someone like Victor Orbá have a lot in common. | ||
| And I know that on a person-to-person basis, they're very good friends. | ||
| They get along with each other. | ||
| But I think what has happened is that sections of the ECR have become very pragmatic, a little bit opportunistic. | ||
| And basically, they fear that if they stick their neck out in the way that the Hungarians have, they're going to have a big problem with the banks, with the markets, with the European Union Commission, who are going to put a lot of economic pressure upon them to fall in line. | ||
| And for that reason, many of them, although they privately understand what Hungarians are doing, nevertheless are reluctant to kind of join in. | ||
| As it happens, neither side is against NATO as such. | ||
| But the Patriot group tends to believe that if you're going to defend your nation, you need to have a national solution to that. | ||
| I think as a sovereigntist, you believe in a sovereign defense force. | ||
| Ultimately, to be honest, if I'm going to worry about who's going to defend my family, I'm going to rely upon my neighbors. | ||
| I'm going to rely upon people that come from my own society who have got a direct stake. | ||
| I know maybe Americans would help us, but why should an American soldier put his life on the line for me when in fact there is very little that he understands about my predicament? | ||
| And therefore, although alliances are really very, very important, in the end, we need to have national solutions to the problem of defense. | ||
| And that's really what the Patriot Group really understand, that being a patriot means being a patriot rather than a globalist when it comes to defense and all these matters. | ||
| I couldn't agree with you more. | ||
| Professor, do hold on in 30 seconds. | ||
| I'm going to come back to you. | ||
| And I want to ask you a bit about the pressures that the European Commission have been putting historically over the last few years on Hungary in order to take the Brussels line. | ||
| And I think actually the Prime Minister's resilience has been nothing short of absolutely heroic and a model to be imitated. | ||
| That will drill down on that in 60 seconds. | ||
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| Back now to Professor Frank Faridi, chief executive of the Mathias Corvinus Collegium in Brussels. | ||
| Professor Farady, I don't know how much our American audience will be drilling down on the happenings within the European Union, but the EU has been launching a number of legal challenges against Hungary, saying that the Prime Minister is corrupting and politicizing the judiciary and has even put on the line EU financing towards Hungary of substantial billions of dollars. | ||
| The irony here is this is actually Hungary's own money, which it pays in quota to the EU, and then the EU holds it back and effectively blackmails independent EU member states to follow the line. | ||
| Same dynamic, by the way, folks, that the federal government has done with the state levels for many years in the United States. | ||
| You'll be familiar with the concept. | ||
| Professor, tell me a bit, because you mentioned how Prime Minister Orban has basically been standing by himself against the Ukrainian accession to the EU. | ||
| Tell me a bit about the pressure that the Prime Minister has been put under, not only by Ursula von der Leyen, but by the Commission historically. | ||
| And tell us something about the actual politicization that the EU is implementing on Hungary right now. | ||
| Because I don't think Americans are aware of this and they need to in order to give the Prime Minister full moral support that he needs. | ||
| Well, if you can imagine, the European Commission, which is an unelected body in charge of the European Union, has essentially declared war upon not just the Prime Minister, but Hungarian society. | ||
| And the main form that this war takes is what's called lawfare. | ||
| It basically uses the European courts. | ||
| And there are several European courts, the European Court of Human Rights and others, as a vehicle to basically try to criminalize what Hungarians are doing. | ||
| So just to give you an example, the European Court of Human Rights has decided that for some reason, Hungarian government and Hungarian judiciary does not meet its criteria of the rule of law. | ||
| And it's basically said that until Hungary falls in line, the judiciary falls in line with what Brussels wants to see, it will withhold essentially millions and millions and millions of Euros from Hungarian society. | ||
| And it's done that already. | ||
| Because basically what they want to do is to interfere within the domestic politics of Hungary. | ||
| So they developed a concept, which is what I call European Union conditionality. | ||
| And that conditionality can take many forms. | ||
| One conditionality is that the only way you're going to get money, the money that actually belongs to you, is if, for example, you accept their definition of gender ideology. | ||
| It's called gender ideology. | ||
| So basically, it means that if a Hungarian school or university wants to receive some funds from Brussels, they've got a guarantee that they recognize trans ideology, they recognize LGBTQ rights, and they will go on and promote it. | ||
| If you don't promote LGBTQ ideology, then they can withhold the money from you. | ||
| And they've done that in a number of different respects. | ||
| And what they are really doing in this is they're trying to directly influence domestic politics and the values that Hungarians live by by forcing Hungarians to shift and change them and to accept their woke ideology. | ||
| They also, by the way, are using the laws of these NGO lobbyist organizations as a vehicle to undermine. | ||
| So for example, there's going to be a general election in Hungary in April next year. | ||
| And the European Commission is totally committed towards destabilizing the government. | ||
| It's completely committed towards financing the opposition and promoting dissidents within Hungary itself. | ||
| And the irony is that the Commission often complains about Russian intervention in domestic politics within Europe, but it has got no inhibitions about interfering in the internal affairs of nations that it despises, it dislikes. | ||
| So we have a very interesting development here. | ||
| It's a bit like, if you're an American, imagine what it was like before the American Revolution when the British tried to influence developments within America itself and it would try to influence taxation and other policies within America. | ||
| And naturally, the Americans rebelled. | ||
| Naturally, America became independent by rejecting this. | ||
| Well, I see Brussels as this colonial project, a federalist colonial project that tries to force countries, particularly Central and East European countries that have strong conservative values, tries to make sure that these nations become the mirror image of the more woke Scandinavian Northern European societies and give up their commitment to religion, give up their commitment to conservatism, the traditional way of life. | ||
| And they're doing this primarily by insisting that the courts adopt new laws, that we adopt their values. | ||
| And it's really all about the culture wars. | ||
| I mean, that's really what we're talking about in this struggle between the EU and Hungary. | ||
| You mentioned culture wars, which I know we've only got a couple of minutes left now, three or so minutes left. | ||
| You mentioned the culture wars. | ||
| That sparks a question that I do really want to ask you while I have this opportunity. | ||
| However, I just want to summarize what you're just saying or add to what you've just been saying. | ||
| I want our audience here to understand just how not isolated in a negative sense, how little political support Viktor Orban has had in order to defend the integrity of Hungary as a nation, as a people, as an identity, within the wider oppression of the European Union, especially with regards to Ukraine accession. | ||
| And the Prime Minister has faced down all of these other European leaders of far more politically, militarily, economically more important countries than Hungary. | ||
| He's faced them all down. | ||
| So what have they done now in order to try and barbeat him? | ||
| They've gone to someone and they ran to someone in order to persuade him to put a bit of pressure on. | ||
| And that person is Donald Trump. | ||
| What I would actually like to see out of this summit in DC today is actually the reverse. | ||
| I would actually like to see Prime Minister Orban persuading President Trump to go back to Brussels, speak to Ursula von der Leyer and all the rest of them, and tell them what his position is going to be that they have to accommodate, not putting pressure on someone like Victor Orban. | ||
| Look, I could go on, but we've got, sort of, as I say, two minutes left. | ||
| And I do, because you are a thinker and let's say a philosopher, even as a sociologist in your own right. | ||
| There is this idea that you've been pushing about. | ||
| Can you synthesize it in two minutes? | ||
| Perhaps come back on the show at another time. | ||
| You've basically said, seeing as you were talking about culture wars, but in a separate context, that much of what passes for culture wars today don't really have anything to do with the present, but they're the debates and sort of tensions over the past. | ||
| Could you just give me like 90 seconds to expand on what the thesis is? | ||
| So what I argue is that we think of culture wars as well as being gender ideology and LGBTQ and Black Lives Matter. | ||
| And it is about that, but ultimately, it's about society's relation to its past. | ||
| Because what these people who hate our way of life are trying to do is to render our past toxic. | ||
| They're basically saying that everything that happened in the United States or in Britain in the 19th, 20th century is horrible. | ||
| We're horrible people. | ||
| We enslave people. | ||
| We exploit people. | ||
| And there's nothing redeeming about our way of life. | ||
| This is really important because what they're doing is they're trying to educate the younger generations, schools and universities, to regard their own society with hostility, to regard their own society as really entirely negative. | ||
| And if they can capture this, they can continue this with our young, then basically what they've done is they've enslaved their minds and made them their own vehicles for promoting their particular worldview. | ||
| And the way that I look at it is that in Europe in particular, but I also think in the United States, we now lost three generations of young people to the culture warriors who dominate our schools and universities. | ||
| And we need to wake up and realize that the real struggle is for the minds of the young rather than anything else. | ||
| Professor Ferredi, we'll close it there. | ||
| I do hope you'll come back on the show, perhaps in the next couple of weeks and tell us how the delegation, the Prime Minister's Hungarian delegation to DC has gone. | ||
| I very much hope that you're successful. | ||
| I know you have an article out in the European Conservative published a few hours ago about this visit. | ||
| Where do people go on social media generally to keep up with what you're doing, your output? | ||
| And also an institution I cannot compliment more highly, the Matthias Corvinus Collegium. | ||
| Where do people go to know more about you? | ||
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Well, I think there is, first of all, my own personal subspect, which is called Roots and Wings with Frank Foretti. | |
| And that, I think, is where I usually express my latest views. | ||
| We also have a YouTube channel, both mine and also MCT Rossi, which I think that you might find interesting. | ||
| And do follow our Twitter accounts. | ||
| We'll get the social media out later. | ||
| Professor Ferredi, thank you so much. | ||
| And I wish you all the best in Washington, D.C. right now. | ||
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| We are the same as the Reichsbürgers, as Nazis, as the conspiracy theorists, as we have been in the past years. | ||
| And we say, no, we are not. | ||
| We are the real friends of democracy. | ||
| We are the AfD. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| My next guest was the guy you just saw speaking there, Peter Beistran, member of the European Parliament. | ||
| Peter, thanks for coming back on the show. | ||
| You last came on the show when Steve was at the Danbury Spa. | ||
| If memory serves me, correct me. | ||
| Thanks for coming back. | ||
| You're live, obviously, at the studio. | ||
| Thank you to inviting me, and it's a great pleasure and honor to be here and war room again. | ||
| Of course, I think you're there live at the studios in the European Parliament in Brussels. | ||
| Now, why did we start with that video clip? | ||
| Fairly nondescript. | ||
| They were speaking in Germany. | ||
| Why did we throw that up as a German political speech? | ||
| What was it about that? | ||
| Folks, did you see anything towards that? | ||
| Folks, did you see anything? | ||
| Did you notice anything? | ||
| Though, Peter Beistran, apparently, according to the courts in Germany, I didn't see it. | ||
| You just seen, you saw exactly the same footage that I've just seen. | ||
| Peter Beistran was received a fine of 11,000 euros, like $13,000 for that speech. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because, according to the courts, he gave a Nazi salute. | ||
| I didn't see it. | ||
| We can call it again. | ||
| Peter, why don't you tell us the background and what happened and say what really is behind this court judgment? | ||
| Look, Ben, this is a funny story because nobody saw the Nazi salute at this occasion when I was speaking. | ||
| It was in Munich, it was a Corona time, you know. | ||
| So I was just talking about the general policy. | ||
| And the moment when I said we are the only democratic party in Germany, we are the true Democrats. | ||
| I somehow wave it with the hand and nobody noticed anything. | ||
| But later, some Antifa people made the freeze of the video. | ||
| And one moment, I have my arm higher than my shoulder. | ||
| And they said, This is a Nazi salute. | ||
| He was doing a Nazi salute and they tried to find me. | ||
| I said, That was the occasion. | ||
| I have to correct you. | ||
| I didn't get the fine for this, but when this happened, I defend myself showing pictures of all other politicians like Angela Merkel and Martin Schultz and even Michelle Obama. | ||
| And I showed all those pictures and I said, You listen, you can do a picture of anybody on the world if you make the freeze in the right moment. | ||
| It looks like a Nazi salute, but it isn't, you know. | ||
| And I was successful. | ||
| And the court said, Yes, that's true, especially by a picture of Angela Merkel. | ||
| And they said, Yes, this is obvious that it looks like a Nazi salute, but it is not a Nazi salute because this is Angela American, and obviously she's just weaving. | ||
| And I won it. | ||
| But then, two years later, I published a collage, a meme on eggs, which included exactly the picture of Angela Merkel weaving. | ||
| And that time, the court said, Oh, Peter Bison is showing that. | ||
| This is a Nazi salute now. | ||
| And they fined me 11,000 Euro 230 for this. | ||
| That was the fine. | ||
| Okay, so we've got the um we've got some of the illustrations here. | ||
| This is what you tweeted out. | ||
| Yeah, thanks very much, Denver. | ||
| Those are the pictures you see: Angela Merkel, you see Olaf Schultz, the Chancellor, Martin Schultz, the president of European Parliament, and on the right side, this is the former president of Germany and his wife. | ||
| So, all those politicians very well known and all looking like doing a Nazi salute. | ||
| And I put this in a collage, and the court said, Well, this is illegal. | ||
| This is a Nazi salute now, and they fined me. | ||
| Okay, so let me get this right. | ||
| Let me get this right. | ||
| So, you gave that salute, excuse me, you gave that hand gesticulation in your speech, which everyone said it was a Nazi salute, right? | ||
| You went to court, you won that. | ||
| They said there's no Nazi salute because you showed them the photos of similar politicians. | ||
| You won that case, you won that case. | ||
| So, then two years later, the whole debate kicked up again, and you tweeted out on social media Angela Merkel in Martin Schultz and Olaf Schultz, not in the former president of the German Republic, all making the same wave to the these are the these are thousand percent mainstream center center ground politicians folks right they they none of these people were ever dragged in angel merkel was never dragged into court for giving the | ||
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nazi salute you put out on social media her doing that that that wave and the courts have said in order to suppress you and to find you they said here here this is a nazi salute is angela merkel doing a nazi salute and therefore let's find peter baistron is that right | |
| is that a correct analysis instead of instead of saying instead of saying hang on we better we better drag into court angela merkel in martin schultz and olaf schultz and the german the president of the german republic for doing nazi salutes nothing they fined you for publishing these waves as nazi salutes is that correct more than this this this is absolutely correct and but this is more funny because this was like peter breisson is weaving | ||
| you know oh this is a nazi salute then i defended myself with the picture of angela merkel and they said okay angela merkel weaving it's not a nazi salute and then when i used the picture of angela merkel the court explicitly said now baistron is using the picture of angela merkel now it's a nazi salute and i was fined 11 000 euro for that and uh you know the incredible thing that to make it more more funny during the process | ||
| with me because it was public you know and it was the same time the picture of angela merkel was online and the media um around 1000 people wrote to uh to the prosecutor and and they all wrote like you are prosecuting peter bison now you should prosecute also angela merkel because look she's doing also a nazi salute to prosecute her and the um um Authorities said 1,000 | ||
| times they said, no, no, no, no, no, we are not going to prosecute Angela Merkel because this is no Nazi salute. | ||
| So Angela Merkel doing a weaving, no Nazi salute. | ||
| Peter Brisson using the picture of Angela Merkel, it's a Nazi salute. | ||
| 11,000 Euro fine. | ||
| That's the case. | ||
| So it becomes, so a wave becomes a Nazi salute when Peter Beistran puts it on social media. | ||
| To be specific, to be correct, it becomes a Nazi salute immediately after otherwise I was elected to our federal list as a candidate for the European Parliament, number two. | ||
| So they just looked for something negative to be able to spread it within the media during the campaign for the European Parliament. | ||
| It was a very clear blackmailing action against us top candidates on this list. | ||
| And just to be clear here, the real point behind this is that, you know, during, I think, the pandemic, the COVID crisis, the AFD was one of the principal parties against the lockdowns and forced vaccines, which the German state obviously sort of imposed on all of its citizens, as they did pretty much everywhere else around the world. | ||
| So the context here, here's the courts, basically. | ||
| And you were saying when you gave that wave, you were actually sort of saying that you guys weren't, the AFD aren't the Nazis, right? | ||
| So here's the irony of the situation. | ||
| You are democratically elected politicians. | ||
| You are a democratically elected member of the European Parliament. | ||
| The courts are coming down, punishing you. | ||
| They're using the state power to punish dissent in the name of being anti-fascist and anti-Nazi, right? | ||
| And they're punishing the only political party in Germany that was against the, you know, what one might reasonably call the fascist regime of the anti-pandemic era. | ||
| That's pretty ironic, I would suggest. | ||
| Yeah, Ben, you're saying it, you know, and this was exactly what I was talking about at this demonstration. | ||
| I was criticizing the measurement of the government at that time. | ||
| I was claiming that they are anti-constitutional. | ||
| You know, they were. | ||
| And in this context, I said, and we, the AFD, we are the only party fighting against this, and we are the only democratic party. | ||
| And it remains still today. | ||
| We are the truly democratic party. | ||
| And what the government is using against us and against the opposition as a whole is systematically blackmail us as a far right, as extremists, you know, fascists, and so on. | ||
| You know, everything from the US because Trump was treated by the globalists the same way. | ||
| So it's not only about me. | ||
| We have other cases. | ||
| And I would specifically point out the case of director of Deutschland Kuri, which is a very well-known online newspaper, David Bendels. | ||
| They published a meme with the picture of the interior minister. | ||
| And the interior minister was holding a piece of paper in her hands saying, I hate the freedom of speech, which you may find funny or not, but I mean, this is nothing which would be prohibited in Germany. | ||
| You can, of course, criticize the interior minister in this way. | ||
| It's a very soft way, I think. | ||
| But they put him into court, and this editor-in-chief of a newspaper got seven-month sentence for publishing this meme. | ||
| And this is incredible. | ||
| Peter, stand by. | ||
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| When we come back in 45 seconds, we have to have the photos of the case that you're referring to, the seven-month sentence. | ||
| And I'm also going to ask, you know, I'm also going to ask for the photo of the German politician who, since birth, doesn't have a right hand. | ||
| And yet, he too, absolutely armless, was punished for giving a Nazi salute without an arm. | ||
| We'll have further details on that. | ||
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| Back to Peter Beistran. | ||
| So let's put these photos of the guy with the without the right arm, and you can just talk us through that, which is absolutely astonishing. | ||
| I've never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life. | ||
| And in the minutes that we have remaining on this show, I'd like you just to tell our audience some of the personal persecutions that you yourself have undergone. | ||
| This is, I think, when you were still a member of parliament in the German national parliament, how many times your home has been raided. | ||
| So tell us about the German, the guy without the right arm and what happened to him. | ||
| And you picked up a perfect example. | ||
| I hope you can show the pictures. | ||
| It's my colleague from the AFD, Dr. Fichtner, who was in the state parliament of Baden-Württemberg. | ||
| And he has no right arm. | ||
| And he was fined for different accusations like he was doing the Nazi salute. | ||
| In total, he got 72,000 Euro fine. | ||
| And I think three court decisions. | ||
| One was for this, you know, and this is really incredible. | ||
| He was again criticizing the measurements of the government. | ||
| You name it. | ||
| You said those were fascist measurements. | ||
| They were all anti-constitutional. | ||
| He was criticizing it heavily during the Corona time. | ||
| And he was fined in three different cases in total of more than 70,000 Euro. | ||
| It's really incredible. | ||
| Let's just do that again, right? | ||
| First, the photo, folks. | ||
| You can see the photo. | ||
| So, this is the courts in Germany protecting democracy, protecting the constitution, protecting the rule of law from the evil AFD. | ||
| Here is a guy that they gave a $72,000, 72,000 Euro fine for. | ||
| I guess that's around what, a little less than $80,000. | ||
| Doesn't have a right arm, hasn't had one since birth because of a birth defect. | ||
| And what the courts have said, well, okay, so if he didn't have, he doesn't have a right arm, but if he did, he'd clearly be doing a Nazi salute. | ||
| It sounds ridiculous. | ||
| It sounds so surreal to say this. | ||
| But that's where we are right now in Germany today. | ||
| Not only in Germany, it's almost ridiculous. | ||
| It's equally ridiculous in the UK, Peter. | ||
| We had a lady who was imprisoned for 30 months because of a tweet that she sent out. | ||
| This is what the regime around the world is doing in the name of defending democracy and the rule of law. | ||
| Tell us a bit, Peter, whilst you're here. | ||
| We've only got three minutes left. | ||
| Tell us a bit about what you, as a sitting member of parliament in the Bundestag. | ||
| Tell us about what you personally have suffered in your own home. | ||
| Well, I have now personally 27 home searchings. | ||
| The police rided not only my house, but my offices in Munich, in Berlin, in the Bundestag, then the offices of my lawyer, of my tax advisor. | ||
| At the end, I would say everybody who ever shaken my hand got the home searching. | ||
| So we are now at number 27. | ||
| This prosecution lasts more than one year. | ||
| Still nothing found from the original accusation. | ||
| So this is just a pure terror. | ||
| This is political immunity. | ||
| I want you to put it that way three times. | ||
| And I need you to repeat this, right? | ||
| As a sitting member of parliament, right? | ||
| As a sitting member of parliament in Berlin, in the Bundestag, the lower church. | ||
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And now in the European Parliament, yeah. | |
| And also, and also now as a member of the European Parliament, where you actually have immunity, right? | ||
| Your home has been officially broken into by the police 27 times. | ||
| Tell me, are you intimidated by this? | ||
| Do you ever think, you know, perhaps I should just calm down? | ||
| Perhaps I should just say what the regime wants me to send, what one wants me to say. | ||
| Do you ever think, you know, is it worth it? | ||
| Or does it actually make you go in the direction of, I am going to fight these people until we win? | ||
| Sure, but everybody is saying the same to whom happens something like this. | ||
| You know, the people saying, okay, now is the point to strike back and we will defend ourselves. | ||
| We are looking for allies and Trump is a very strong ally. | ||
| It's not only me, you know, there are thousands and thousands of people in Germany. | ||
| They got home searching, you know. | ||
| I give you just some examples. | ||
| You know, there was a woman posting something on Facebook. | ||
| She didn't produce the meme. | ||
| She was just reposting it. | ||
| And the major of Berlin advised the police to find out the true identity of this woman. | ||
| It took some more than 400 hours of police work to find out who is behind this Facebook account. | ||
| And then they rioted her home for nothing. | ||
| Afterwards, the court declared it illegal, this home searching. | ||
| But it was even in my case, I already sued the state of Bavaria for doing the home searchings. | ||
| I won the first case. | ||
| They said it was illegal, but the state is doing it again and again in spite of knowing that this is illegal. | ||
| And they are not doing just the home searches. | ||
| Imagine what the leader of the demonstration, the organizer of the demonstration against the corona, Michael Balvek, was put into prison for nine months. | ||
| The guy was sitting in prison nine months without the trial. | ||
| There was no trial. | ||
| They put him in prison for nine months. | ||
| And they said, yeah, he committed some tax fraud. | ||
| At the end, he was released. | ||
| And it came out that the state is owing him money. | ||
| So the state should pay him back taxes, 200,000 Euro in taxes back. | ||
| So he was completely innocent. | ||
| You're going to have to come back on, Peter. | ||
| We need to dig into this one very, very quickly. | ||
| Where do people go on social media to keep up with your work? | ||
| I am everywhere on X, on Facebook. | ||
| I have a website, Peter Bison. | ||
| So do you just Google Peter Bison? | ||
| You will find thousands of articles which are very negative about me, but you can find also my accounts. |
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