Oct. 30, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
48:50
Participants
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're going to not get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
| They don't need NVIDIA's chips, certainly, or American tech stacks in order to build their military. | ||
| Let me ask you a broader question. | ||
| What difference does it make who gets there first? | ||
| Because at some level, you've described this as electricity. | ||
| So if it's a kind of resource that's going to be sprinkled into every industry everywhere, just like, yeah, Edison invented electricity, but the Soviet Union started to use it. | ||
| Everyone will use AI, particularly given that there are open source models now. | ||
| Let's say I'm a company. | ||
| I want to use AI to make my sales force better. | ||
| I use DeepSeek or I use Lama or I use OpenAI. | ||
| Does it matter whether it's American or Chinese? | ||
| In the end, I don't think it does. | ||
| The DeepSeek R1 model is revolutionary. | ||
| It's the world's first advanced, open reasoning model. | ||
| It's used, it's downloaded millions of times. | ||
| It's used all over the world. | ||
| There were concerns about that it was trained in China and that it could be dangerous for that reason. | ||
| First of all, there's no evidence of that. | ||
| And whatever evidence there is, if anybody has it, you could just fine-tune and distill it out. | ||
| And so the technology itself is really completely incredible. | ||
| The open source nature of it empowered startup companies, new industries, countries to be able to engage AI. | ||
| Your question about does it really matter who gets there first? | ||
| I think in the final analysis, I don't think it does. | ||
| However, I believe it is core to the American spirit to want to be the world's best. | ||
| We should want to be the world's best in computing technology. | ||
| The computer industry is one of America's national treasures. | ||
| Senator Hawley joins us. | ||
| You've been at the forefront of AI. | ||
| President Trump is coming back. | ||
| He'll land today. | ||
| It looks like on the surface of it, some huge wins with the rare earths. | ||
| No discussion of Taiwan, but particularly it looks like the advanced chips. | ||
| It's kind of confusing. | ||
| It's going to be a discussion or they've been banned. | ||
| But Jensen Wong right there, Semaphore, we can put that article up. | ||
| Semmerford last night named him the $5 trillion man. | ||
| The market capitalization of NVIDIA hit $5 trillion. | ||
| It was only, what, a couple decades ago, Apple hit a trillion dollars and everybody thought the earth had moved. | ||
| $5 trillion. | ||
| The richest, most powerful guy in the world in that interview, there was worse, but we didn't have time to show you, was worse than that, about it doesn't matter if the CCP or CCP companies win the race for AI with advanced chips or not. | ||
| Your thoughts about this, Senator Hawley. | ||
| Well, I can't say that I agree with just about anything that he said right there. | ||
| I mean, it certainly does matter who wins. | ||
| It matters who has the technology and it matters what the technology is trained on. | ||
| I mean, we can see that even now. | ||
| I mean, you look at the answers, the material, these chatbots are spitting out AI chatbots, to be clear, here in the United States for our own American companies. | ||
| And it really matters what they're trained on. | ||
| It matters what the content is. | ||
| And listen, the CCP has perfected the use of this technology for surveillance on their own citizens and also for propaganda. | ||
| And I don't want that in the United States. | ||
| I don't want them controlling our technology. | ||
| I don't want them using it for propagandistic purposes in our country. | ||
| So, yeah, I think it matters who wins this thing, so to speak. | ||
| I think it matters where the technology comes from. | ||
| I think it matters that we know the integrity of the technology. | ||
| And I don't have that kind of confidence if it's deep seek or if it's other AI stuff built in China, to be honest with you. | ||
| Senator, there's a gap in the United States Senate. | ||
| I want to get to Arctic Frost in a moment about the surveillance of centers and now everything we're finding out from the FBI about Arctic Frost and also the Schumer shutdown, which appears like deeper than ever. | ||
| But you're actually trying to, they talk about reaching across the aisle. | ||
| You're actually trying to work with your colleagues about artificial intelligence, given the potential upside, but also the imminent potential danger. | ||
| And you're seeing now the AI job apocalypse. | ||
| Just explain to the audience, what are you trying to accomplish? | ||
| Because you don't see a lot of bipartisanship in the Senate on something that's meaningful. | ||
| I mean, there's some happy talk all the time, but something's meaningful. | ||
| Why are you doing this? | ||
| Yeah, I'm glad you pointed out the happy talk. | ||
| I'm really not interested in. | ||
| What I'm interested in is protecting our workers and protecting our kids, you know, the American people, we the people. | ||
| And here's what's happening right now with AI. | ||
| These chatbots are telling our kids how to kill themselves. | ||
| They're encouraging our kids to kill themselves. | ||
| And unless, you know, unless somebody out there in the audience thinks, oh, you know, Josh, you're just exaggerating. | ||
| I wish I were, but I'm not. | ||
| All you have to do is just Google it. | ||
| You'll find out. | ||
| You'll see the news stories. | ||
| Open AI, ChatGPT, Character AI. | ||
| These chatbots have engaged teenage kids just in the last year, have engaged them and have urged them to kill themselves, have urged them to stop going to church, have urged them to break with their parents. | ||
| One chatbot actually encouraged a kid to kill his own parents. | ||
| This is out of control. | ||
| And what you see is these companies, Steve, right now, these tech barons are willing to do anything to make money. | ||
| And that includes hurting our kids, undermining our families, and undermining our jobs. | ||
| My view is this. | ||
| AI could be great for America, but in order to be great for America, it's got to be great for our families, and it's got to be great for our workers. | ||
| That's what we need to focus on. | ||
| Are you getting any comfort at all on the worker side, this AI apocalypse job? | ||
| Because now, like, Target lays off 1,000 white-collar mid-management folks in their headquarters, 1,000. | ||
| And they say, well, it's really better data analytics and technology. | ||
| It's AI. | ||
| You're seeing this now. | ||
| Is it horse out because they've taken an efficiency model? | ||
| They're not going to have a productivity model. | ||
| It's an efficiency model, which means get the humans, get the Homo sapiens. | ||
| Is anybody in the Senate as focused as you are trying to get a solution for this? | ||
| Well, I'm trying to get people focused. | ||
| And you mentioned Target. | ||
| Amazon announced, I think it's today, that 14,000 additional jobs they're going to cut. | ||
| You know, Amazon's been building these warehouses all over, including in my state, Steve. | ||
| And that can be good if it has jobs, actual human jobs. | ||
| What we're finding now is Amazon's coming back into these warehouses they just built. | ||
| We've got one in southwest Missouri where I live. | ||
| And now they're saying, you know, actually, we're going to get rid of all the human jobs. | ||
| We're going to fire everybody and replace everybody with robots. | ||
| I'm worried about that big time. | ||
| And I'm worried that there won't be new jobs created for human beings, American workers. | ||
| You know, we faced this back in the 90s and the early 2000s with the free traders who said, oh, it's going to generate jobs. | ||
| What it really did is give our jobs away to China. | ||
| These AI people, I listen to them. | ||
| They sound a lot like the free traders from 20 years ago. | ||
| It's going to be wonderful. | ||
| It's going to be magical. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Like, are there going to be any jobs for working people in the United States? | ||
| It doesn't sound like it to me. | ||
| Here's what we need to do. | ||
| We need to commission a study to see every job that AI destroys. | ||
| What are the industries that it's destroying them in? | ||
| What's happening to those jobs? | ||
| That's the kind of thing, the kind of information we need to be getting so we can figure out what is going on here. | ||
| And I just come back to this has got to work for American workers. | ||
| If this puts everybody out of work, why is that a good thing? | ||
| No, we'll get you back on, talk about the data centers because the needs they have of the American people. | ||
| Data centers water all of it power. | ||
| I've got limited time, though. | ||
| I want to go to Arctic Frost. | ||
| You're the first one really to bring this up. | ||
| The revelations since you came on are actually draw-dropping. | ||
| They get worse every day. | ||
| Where in the hell are we going on this thing, sir? | ||
| Well, we need a full-scale investigation, Steve. | ||
| You know, I continue to believe we need a special prosecutor who is 100% dedicated to figuring out what in the world the Biden, DOJ, and FBI were doing. | ||
| The more we learn, the worse it gets. | ||
| 92 conservative organizations targeted. | ||
| Now we know that they went after even more phone records. | ||
| They tapped my phone. | ||
| They tapped the phones of seven other senators. | ||
| Looks like they also now went after conservative organizations like the Republican Attorneys General. | ||
| I mean, it's really, it was a dragnet. | ||
| It was a massive witch hunt, all with the goal of trying to get Donald Trump, number one, and number two, trying to decapitate the Republican Party and the conservative movement. | ||
| They went after Charlie Kirk, of course, as well, and TPUSA. | ||
| So we've got to get to the bottom of this. | ||
| We do need hearings. | ||
| We need congressional hearings. | ||
| People need to be issued subpoenas. | ||
| And, Steve, this all needs to be done in public. | ||
| The American people need to see the truth here. | ||
| I'm tired of this behind-closed door stuff. | ||
| We just had another closed-door briefing yesterday. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| This needs to be done in public. | ||
| The American people deserve to know. | ||
| You know, Andrew Bailey, another great one from Missouri, is now helping cash over at FBI, but we're strapped with manpower. | ||
| Is your call like the war rooms to say, look, you got so much going on in Maine Justice, you got so much going to the FBI. | ||
| We need a special prosecutor that just focuses on this. | ||
| Is that getting any real traction? | ||
| Boy, I hope so. | ||
| I mean, I continue to beat the drum on that, and you put it exactly right. | ||
| I mean, we need somebody who is 100% dedicated to this and has a team of prosecutors. | ||
| I emphasize prosecutors dedicated to this. | ||
| Until we get some accountability, I don't have any confidence that this won't happen again. | ||
| Heck, I don't have any confidence it's not happening right now. | ||
| Not because I don't trust cash, but because I do not trust the deep state. | ||
| And, you know, the FBI is a big place. | ||
| DOJ is a big place. | ||
| We saw this in Trump term number one. | ||
| These people burrow in there. | ||
| They do all kinds of nefarious stuff, and it takes us years to uncover it. | ||
| We right now have control. | ||
| The American people deserve full and total transparency, and we ought to give it to them. | ||
| Senator Hawley, the Schumer shutdown, I think the way I look at it, we're winning. | ||
| They haven't really changed their position. | ||
| They still got these radical ideas about trillions of dollars for illegal alien health care, and they try to spend it every different way. | ||
| What's the latest status? | ||
| Because it looks like, I think it looks like some Democratic senators are starting to sweat bullets here, sir. | ||
| Well, I hope they are starting to sweat bullets because now, I mean, their games are really hurting people, Steve. | ||
| They're hurting real people. | ||
| Our military, our law enforcement, our air traffic controllers now can't get paid. | ||
| TSA agents can't get paid. | ||
| But how about this? | ||
| 42 million Americans who are in need, including about 650,000 Missourians who rely on federal food assistance, they're not going to get it starting this weekend. | ||
| They're going to get nothing. | ||
| They're not going to be able to feed their kids. | ||
| These are good people. | ||
| Many of them are working people who, in this economy, because of to go back to the free traders from just a second ago, because of what the free traders and the globalists did to our economy, so many of our good working people can't make ends meet. | ||
| They need the assistance. | ||
| And starting Saturday, they're not going to be able to buy food. | ||
| Whose fault is that? | ||
| The Democrats. | ||
| I think they're starting to realize that. | ||
| The public knows it. | ||
| And I just continue to plead with the Democrats. | ||
| I don't know what you're trying to do. | ||
| We are not going to give health care to illegals. | ||
| Stop punishing the American people and stop denying food to needy children in this country. | ||
| This has gotten way out of hand. | ||
| They're not backing off. | ||
| Is there any real negotiations? | ||
| Because these guys won't back off their core tenets of the medical assistance, you know, the trillion dollars for the illegal aliens. | ||
| Is there any then real negotiations going on? | ||
| I mean, if there are, I'm not aware of them. | ||
| And listen, they're going to have to face reality, they being the Dems, which is that we are not going to give health care to illegal aliens. | ||
| We are not going to take food out of the mouths of Americans, which is what they are doing now. | ||
| Think about this. | ||
| They are taking food out of the mouths of American children in order to try to give health care to illegals, in order to try to give welfare to illegals, Social Security, Medicaid to illegals. | ||
| You want to bankrupt those programs? | ||
| Just keep giving them to illegals. | ||
| We've drawn a red line in the sand, or at least I have. | ||
| And we ought to be clear, that is non-negotiable. | ||
| We are not negotiating on that. | ||
| The Democrats need to face reality, face up to the facts of what the American people want, and they need to say it's time to start supporting the American people and putting them first. | ||
| Senator, what are your coordinates on social media and where do people get your writings? | ||
| Particularly, you've done some great writings on big tech over the years, a couple of books that are great. | ||
| Where do folks go? | ||
| You can go to joshhawley.com and at HollyMo and all the social media platforms. | ||
| You can find my books everywhere. | ||
| Books are sold. | ||
| Senator Hawley, thank you for taking time out of the day. | ||
| Join us in the world. | ||
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| He nailed it. | ||
| There's nothing to negotiate. | ||
| Nothing to negotiate. | ||
| The only negotiation, we ought to get into the SNAP program of the food assistance, which I agree. | ||
| If you're an American citizen, particularly working poor, okay, but the illegal aliens on that, not acceptable. | ||
| We can't give a penny. | ||
| We don't have the money. | ||
| We can't give a penny to illegal aliens on any type of support. | ||
| Last segment, I'm talking to you about if you got a tax problem, because the IRS is coming for their cash because we've got $2 trillion deficit annually. | ||
| And that's with the great tariff deals. | ||
| Tariff money is coming in like nobody's business. | ||
| It's kind of a game changer to a degree. | ||
| But the IRS still needs their cash and they're going to try to get it. | ||
| That's why I tell you, go talk to Tax Network USA. | ||
| Don't think, because President Trump's a president, that those guys aren't coming looking for their money. | ||
| But you've got these Democrats. | ||
| When you look what's inside their offer, it's like insanity. | ||
| LGBTQ stuff all over the world, they haven't learned. | ||
| And they're not going to learn until you just say it's not going to happen. | ||
| It's coming down to a showdown now. | ||
| Think next couple of days, media is going to be piling on President Trump like nobody's business. | ||
| They're not going to talk about the victories in the Middle East, not going to talk about the victories in Asia. | ||
| Not going to talk about them. | ||
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| Dave Brett, let's deal with the domestic side. | ||
| President Trump's coming back. | ||
| And you know, they had the guys on Morning Joe today, I think, saying the invisible president because spending so much time trying to stop the Third World War. | ||
| Always remember, we're in the Third World War. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| And the kinetic part of this so far has killed more people than the first couple of years of the European side of the Second World War. | ||
| Tons more. | ||
| I don't know, two or three times X more in the economic warfare. | ||
| And this is why President Trump, the details are going to come out in the next day or two, but talking about playing a bad hand well, which is, to me, the definition of a master negotiator and strategist. | ||
| And it looks like he may just pull it off, particularly if the rare earths start coming. | ||
| And like Cleo said, you got to check these guys on everything. | ||
| Because they have it. | ||
| When you do something with the Chinese Communist Party, particularly like negotiate a deal, the saying is that's always the basis for just further negotiations. | ||
| You have to be able, and this is why Trump is feared by these guys. | ||
| He's the muscle. | ||
| He's going to force, he's going to enforce commitment to the deal and execution of the deal. | ||
| This is why they fear him. | ||
| And they know the American people have his back on this topic more than ever. | ||
| But the pivot to domestic policy, the Schumer shutdown is going to come to a crescendo here over the next week because you've got another payment to the troops. | ||
| You've got this SNAP situation, which a lot of the SNAP people are, some of the SNAP people are threatening. | ||
| They're going to go in stores. | ||
| So it's going to end the anarchists in the crowd, the mom Donnie crowd in New York, the Marxist jihadist are all gung-ho on this. | ||
| Dave Bratt, your thoughts, sir? | ||
| You know, I think that's right. | ||
| He's coming up. | ||
| The left has pretty much lost the narrative war. | ||
| Thun is hinting that the Democrats are, you know, the ICE is thawing a bit. | ||
| They're trying to come back with a couple of little micro arguments to get the Republicans to make some micro negotiations back. | ||
| I don't think they're doing that. | ||
| The speaker says pretty much no to that. | ||
| But the left and the strategy of the Democrats right now, all political views are my own, but they're pretty much going to escalate, right? | ||
| They know their only strategy left, they're losing across the board on the wars, the economy, the stock market's doing well. | ||
| And so now they're just ramping up the violence and the threat of violence. | ||
| All the political campaigns, the rhetoric in Virginia is awful. | ||
| Across the country, it's awful. | ||
| And some of the strategists on the left have basically come out and said the only strategy we have is to bring chaos to the cities again. | ||
| And so I think that Trump is going to be, you know, I think he's kind of getting ready for some of that. | ||
| And luckily, the rage days that were planned for last Saturday kind of ended with a thump of a bunch of, you know, white elderly folks marching in the streets. | ||
| They didn't go as planned. | ||
| And so it's going to be an ugly day coming up for the next few weeks. | ||
| The left still owns the mainstream media. | ||
| They won't give President Trump a break at all. | ||
| And, you know, the most important thing to realize here is we're still giving them the Biden budget, right? | ||
| It's still a $7 trillion, $2 trillion deficit budget. | ||
| And the left wants to do another $1.5 trillion over and above that while we're bankrupt. | ||
| So as you said, Trump's been handed a bad set. | ||
| And what I was hinting at before on the China argument is we need an Operation Barbarossa on these rare earths and everything, right? | ||
| If you make a bad bet and you're in business, in the old days, you went bankrupt. | ||
| And so that's what needs to happen in the future. | ||
| Trump needs to tell the private sector guys to get their house in order. | ||
| And then, you know, unfortunately, we're dependent on those rare earths for defense. | ||
| And the 30-year failure, as Thayer always says, to get our geopolitical house in order there is, you know, they ought to all be fired because now we got caught. | ||
| We're dependent on China, an arch enemy. | ||
| Our businesses are still all in controlling the billionaire classes running the city. | ||
| And we got to end that and return government to the American people, both geopolitically and domestically. | ||
| If you look at Barris and Mark Mitchell at Restmussen, two of the couple of people, maybe three or four at MAX, that really know how to poll MAGA, they're both saying the same thing, kind of. | ||
| They're saying, look, for all these wins internationally, and they've been amazing. | ||
| And I don't think even when the questions are put, that folks understand we're in a world war and Trump's trying to get everybody to lay down their weapons and then negotiate meaningful peace deals based upon prosperity or the opportunity for prosperity. | ||
| So he's not abandoned America first. | ||
| But the one thing you got to make sure that we can't get dragged into Hell's Half Acre on what Biden, and not just at the globalists and the Republican Party, the Lindsey Grahams. | ||
| Lindsey Graham, you know, last night in some restaurant, he's tweeting out that, you know, the IDF or Israel on Gaza and Hamas. | ||
| And if they don't, you know, stand down, it's going to be another thing, you know, another war, and he supports it. | ||
| So they all want to drag Trump into war after war after war. | ||
| But people are looking and saying, hey, you know, the bylatch you have, you know, you got guys from Slovakia and NATO. | ||
| When are we going to have some steel workers or some ranchers? | ||
| So you see that. | ||
| What is your recommendation? | ||
| You were a House member that was America first before that came and being your Tea Party guy. | ||
| What do you think the president needs to do? | ||
| He's coming back. | ||
| He's got the biggest stage in the world. | ||
| He sets news every day. | ||
| He can drive the narrative. | ||
| What would be your recommendation to him to focus on when he's back? | ||
| Yeah, well, the Tucker show, it's the one with McGregor on it, and it was very good. | ||
| It's not a sexy answer, but President Trump needs to go back to the domestic policies for the bottom 90% on education, right? | ||
| I was just out at Money 2020 out in Vegas. | ||
| The money, every financial innovation possible was out there. | ||
| And it's for the top 10%. | ||
| Artificial intelligence, as you've been covering on the show regularly, top 10% of the wealth. | ||
| The bottom 90% is not equipped to enter this world. | ||
| There's going to be mass layoffs. | ||
| We're not getting them ready. | ||
| And that's what we got to do. | ||
| And then on top of that, you've got to bust up these drug addiction problems that are plaguing the cities, right? | ||
| San Francisco, Oregon, Chicago, Philadelphia. | ||
| That is being brought about. | ||
| If you're very cynical, there's a lot of money at play to keep people in those positions with the pharmaceutical stuff and the war room knows all that. | ||
| But when you think through these drug wars, some of this is systematic as well. | ||
| And he's doing that, right? | ||
| You see, he's fighting a fight. | ||
| So I'm not being critical. | ||
| He's going into these cities and bringing law and order back to Washington, D.C. | ||
| And that is a huge thing that will help the base. | ||
| We got to get our kids out of the basements, off the technology, off the phone. | ||
| We have to replace the Freudian psycho babble in all these prison ministries with the Christian faith. | ||
| Jack Brewer works under Trump doing that in the prisons. | ||
| And his results are astounding. | ||
| He's turning people's lives around. | ||
| And we just need to get back to Americana, helping our neighbors, the faith and giving people hope, getting people off the drugs, Incarcerating the people who are on drugs, putting them in prison, not paying as the Soros crew does to get them out of prison. | ||
| It's just stunning. | ||
| And so Trump's doing the right things. | ||
| But I think the base really wants to see that effort made on behalf of the bottom 90%. | ||
| What policies can we put forward to give the kids some success? | ||
| You hear a lot of happy talk in the Senate and the House about support for Trump. | ||
| But President Trump, and this is why he's got DHS and there's argument in DHS, but the mass deportation folks are winning. | ||
| He's ramping up. | ||
| He's training, obviously, the military to be able to handle urban situations because they're going to have to go into Chicago and Portland and Memphis and other places that are hellholes of crime and Antifa. | ||
| What would be your recommendation? | ||
| Because right now the system is trying to encapsulate him and say, no, no, no, no, no, you can't do that. | ||
| Tone it down, tone it down. | ||
| Of course, President Trump's a man of action. | ||
| He's not into toning it down. | ||
| What would you tell him? | ||
| What would you tell him? | ||
| Because he's getting donor pushback and he's getting the typical rhino pushback of less than enthusiastic about what he's trying to do to clean this country up, just like they fought him on immigration all those years. | ||
| What would be your recommendation now for him for law and order and for sending ICE in for the mass deportations? | ||
| Well, I would do what he was doing during the campaign. | ||
| He was reaching out to the African-American community, the Hispanic community, the church community. | ||
| All of these communities are now moving massively over in our direction, and it's our job to keep them. | ||
| And we can keep them, right? | ||
| We can train up their kids. | ||
| If he goes after the teachers' unions, shows the corruption in education, starts putting the Bible back into schools, start putting some Christian ethos back into the schools, he can lead on that front, and people will get it. | ||
| And that will change the psychology of people. | ||
| And it's a long, hard road. | ||
| I mean, when you got people on drug addiction, that's years to get out, right? | ||
| That's with a support system around them. | ||
| These folks are laying on the sidewalks in total misery because the Democrats owned all the cities for the past 40 years. | ||
| And the liberals used to care about the poor and the downtrodden. | ||
| And now they've morphed into Marxists or just in a political war. | ||
| And they're at war against all of our loves, against God, against country, against family. | ||
| And they've been winning. | ||
| Now it's time for us to win. | ||
| Dave, hang on for one second. | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Matt. | ||
| Dave Brett's with us, Cleo Pascal, to keep the main thing, the main thing, President Trump, coming back for a historic, absolutely historic trip to Asia. | ||
| Monumental, in fact. | ||
| And of course, we're trying to get sorted on the deal, on the details of this potential deal. | ||
| Or as Cleo said, it's like two boxers that are going at it. | ||
| They're now going to their corners, but this thing's a long way from over. | ||
| In fact, it's not going to be over in this century. | ||
| This is the major geopolitical contest of our time. | ||
| And of course, we represent the, and people say the radical decoupling, but our point is you're never going to solve this while they want to decouple and they will decouple at a time and place of their choosing from the West. | ||
| You can't trust anything about them. | ||
| This is unrestricted warfare and they're in open warfare with us, economic warfare. | ||
| Look at what they threatened to do on rare earths, which was to cut us off and to stop with the magnets and these other of these heavy rare earths or what I call them to really cut off our production capability. | ||
| And I don't mean some theoretical cutoff in a couple of years. | ||
| I mean flat out the line stop running in six or eight weeks. | ||
| And they knew that. | ||
| This is what President Trump, he's trying to get a workaround to that. | ||
| That is the central thing. | ||
| You've got to get sorted. | ||
| He and Besant have got to get sorted. | ||
| Cleo Pascal. | ||
| I want to bring up one thing. | ||
| We talk about law and order, and that's why I asked Brett that question. | ||
| Part of what's never talked about, and only the brilliant Cleo Pascal brings it up, this whole fentanyl situation, because the CCP, this time they're going to look harder, right? | ||
| Talk to me about the Chinese Communist Party, which is a gangster organization. | ||
| Its rise to power, its being in power. | ||
| Mao Cedong, they all knew from the beginning. | ||
| The Chinese gangs, right? | ||
| The Chinese gangsters are incredibly organized. | ||
| They've been around forever, right, predating the 20th century. | ||
| They've been around forever. | ||
| They're very organized. | ||
| The original, a part, not all of it, but one part of the Chinese coming to America, the gangs were all over that, right? | ||
| As other nationalities had gangs. | ||
| These people had lethal gangs. | ||
| And they've got a foothold here in the States. | ||
| And they're central to this whole issue of fentanyl. | ||
| Walk us through it. | ||
| Yeah, so not only does China produce the precursors for pretty much all of the fentanyl that then runs through the cartels and then through Canada and Mexico and then into the United States and into the veins of Americans, killing a lot of them. | ||
| I mean, as you mentioned, the cost in lives is heartbreaking. | ||
| But for everyone who dies, you have a family that's destroyed. | ||
| For every addict, you have families that are in constant trauma. | ||
| This is very effective disintegration warfare and tropic warfare, which is a Chinese strategy, destroying the country from the inside. | ||
| So they're involved in the production. | ||
| And we know from congressional investigations that the government of China actually gives tax breaks to the companies that are producing these chemicals. | ||
| But they also are involved in the money laundering. | ||
| It used to be the Lebanese that were doing a lot of the money laundering, among others, for the cartels. | ||
| But the Chinese have also cornered that market. | ||
| And when you're talking about Chinese organized crime, it always tracks back to the state, often state security or other parts of the intelligence community on operations within China. | ||
| And remember that, according to the 2017 national intelligence law, any Chinese individual or Chinese organization has to support Chinese intelligence operations. | ||
| And they're protected by the Chinese state if they do, and they're punished if they don't. | ||
| So they've created these conduits through which the fentanyl flows, but so do many, many other things. | ||
| And I wouldn't be surprised if, for example, the money of Chinese Communist Party leadership runs through these corrupt systems, which is and criminal organizations, which is again another reason to protect them. | ||
| So it's a very interbraided system of criminality that is a key component part of China, of the Chinese Communist Party, but also the Chinese economy. | ||
| Estimates are that at least 30% of the Chinese economy is illicit, which is why when you hear these estimates about the Chinese economy, you have to go, okay, well, where's all the black money? | ||
| You know, the Chinese, the sort of common saying is a Chinese company will have three books. | ||
| It'll have the book they show to the public, to the auditors. | ||
| Then it'll have the backup book because everybody knows the first book is a fake. | ||
| But then it'll have a third book that's kept in the family, often with the oldest daughter or somebody like that, very close to the leadership, which is the actual real book. | ||
| The criminality is embedded throughout the entire economic and political system. | ||
| And these gangs, this Chinese organized crime, are like the shock troops of political warfare, which is used to advance these unrestricted warfare objectives of keeping China and the Chinese Communist Party number one, not only in China, but across the world. | ||
| I want to go back to this for a second to make sure folks understand this. | ||
| And it's one of the reasons we support Lao Beijing so much, the common man and woman in China. | ||
| The entire system is corrupt from the top to the bottom. | ||
| They live under the yoke of criminality. | ||
| I mean, hardcore criminality. | ||
| That's the way the system works. | ||
| As corrupt as you think the United States is, as criminally seen in Arctic Frost, we have these massive problems. | ||
| They have to be dealt with now. | ||
| We cannot allow this President Trump's term, right, broadly defined, can end without this criminality being dealt with. | ||
| But what you're seeing in Arctic Frost and these other things, the Auto Pen and all of it, that's just day-to-day the way the system actually works in China. | ||
| They wouldn't be shocked about it at all. | ||
| They'd go, of course. | ||
| I want you to go back to this for a second. | ||
| Mao Zedong and the RISE, they were just another criminal gang. | ||
| They had a philosophy that they could suck the idealistic Americans into, right? | ||
| People like, was it Edgar Snow and Red Star over China? | ||
| All these people were just, quite frankly, General Marshall was sucked in when he went over to visit. | ||
| Why? | ||
| So many of his aide-de-camps were hardcore communists by that time. | ||
| All sucked into these guys are agrarian reformers. | ||
| It's like Mondani. | ||
| You think that guy's some sort of reformer up in New York City's skipping through the TikTok videos in the stores? | ||
| No. | ||
| He's a Bolshevik. | ||
| He's a Marxist jihadist. | ||
| They've added the shihadist part, but he's nothing but a Bolshevik. | ||
| And that's why people are saying, oh, well, you know, they're socialists. | ||
| They're going to run other people's money. | ||
| It's actually a good thing for conservatives because they'll see how their economic work. | ||
| He doesn't care about his economy. | ||
| He doesn't care about any of that crap. | ||
| He's just saying that for the cameras. | ||
| That's what the Chinese Communist Party, the Raisin Detra, is an organized criminal gang that has state power. | ||
| That's what they knew when they seized the state, or I should say, when the United States State Department gave them China after the war. | ||
| But it's always been about gangsterism. | ||
| Remember, Mao had his top guys shot all the time because he didn't want competition. | ||
| I think it was Xi's father, who was one of the young thugs that they had do some of this. | ||
| But the Chinese gangs, the real Chinese gangs, have always been their partners, has it not, Cleo? | ||
| Yeah, and as Colonel Grant Newsham, who you've had on the show, has said multiple times, if you want to understand the Chinese Communist Party, just watch a few seasons of The Sopranos. | ||
| This is how they operate. | ||
| And that's why, even if you get rid of Xi, it's not like some benevolent person is going to come into power. | ||
| If you rise up through that system, you are not a nice person. | ||
| And if I had my dreathers, if I had a magic language wand, the word I would get rid of is decouple. | ||
| We were never in a couple with the Chinese economy. | ||
| It was always fundamentally parasitic. | ||
| That benefited the Chinese, they would come in and they would, like a parasite, latch on and suck out intellectual property, capital, manufacturing, and weaken the host, which is us. | ||
| And there's a very specific parasite, the castrator barnacle, which latches on to crabs and gets into the bloodstream and gets so much control, it can remote control it and castrate it in the process. | ||
| It's a very visual image, but it's very much what the Chinese economic engagement into the United States and other major Western economies was designed to do, to weaken it, remote control it, make it impotent, and suck out everything that it needed to survive while weakening the host. | ||
| So it's not decoupling. | ||
| It was never an equal relationship. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| If you have this parasitic relationship, what is the ivermectin? | ||
| What do we have out there that we can give, that we could give a jolt of and actually start to kill the parasite? | ||
| It goes back to what you were saying before, which is these are criminal organizations. | ||
| And so if you actually use transparency, accountability, rule of law, and you go after that criminal element, you can weaken it in a substantial way. | ||
| The Chinese will come in with a commercial front. | ||
| So they'll say, it's just chips. | ||
| We just want some trade. | ||
| There's always this strategic underpinning to it. | ||
| But then there's a bribery component. | ||
| Who have they paid off to advance the agenda of getting those chips? | ||
| The chips that they need for their strategic advantage for their military, but which they're saying is just commercial. | ||
| You go after, of those three, the weakest element is the criminal component. | ||
| You have to go after them. | ||
| You have to start throwing people in jail. | ||
| You have to start. | ||
| I mean, when I see the interview with Jensen, I long for Cold War 1.0 when you could have Rocky punch a Soviet in the face in a movie and everybody would cheer. | ||
| Why can't we punch Chinese bad guys in the face in a movie and cheer? | ||
| Because they've got so much control over the narrative. | ||
| So once we can start to say, look, this is a criminal organization that has the strategic intent of destroying the United States from the inside, and we've got to fight back. | ||
| And our tools are the strengths that the U.S. embodies, this incredible system that has inspired so many people around the world. | ||
| We need to decorupt ourselves, not just the U.S., but all of the other ones that have been corrupted by it. | ||
| And you can do it through things like exposing the wealth of the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party, seizing their assets, revoking visas of relatives, doing all the things that the United States claims it is as a country and stands for internationally and re-give hope that the good guys are the good guys for a reason and they can win by being good. | ||
| We have a couple of really defense intellectuals, very smart people, national security experts, in our various engine rooms. | ||
| And one of them particularly says, you must drive a wedge between Lao Beijing and the CCP leadership. | ||
| The way to do that is talk about their wealth. | ||
| Rubio got this passed a couple of years ago because Rubio is a Chinahawk in this regard. | ||
| However, nothing's really happened. | ||
| And one of the reasons I posit, I would like to have your thoughts, is that when you talk about the immense wealth, because they're the wealthiest people on earth, they're wealthier than the Gulf Emirates, right? | ||
| These are the wealthiest families, what, the five or six families that fight for control of the Chinese Communist Party all the time. | ||
| And the reason that we've had a tough time exposing it is that it also exposes the American capitalist, you know, which Lenin said will sell us the rope on which we'll hang them. | ||
| You would actually expose here the companies and how they actually accumulate this wealth was with the help of the Lords of Easy Money on Wall Street, Silicon Valley, and the corporatists that are here, Cleo Pascal. | ||
| Yeah, we're actually giving them the money to build the factories to build the rope to hang us with. | ||
| Like, it's gotten so much worse the way that they've gotten into our systems and are using it to their advantage to go after us. | ||
| And you really do. | ||
| I mean, deparasiting isn't fun. | ||
| You know, you have to go through a purging process where a lot of the bad stuff comes out of the system. | ||
| But that's really what it's going to take because it's become so intertwined with the leadership. | ||
| And it's all over. | ||
| I mean, you talk about it very eloquently in terms of the education system and all that sort of stuff. | ||
| But also in terms of, and just to go back to the Pacific map, the U.S.'s vision of itself, the idea that the U.S. defending American citizens across the Pacific in Guam and CNMI is somehow expansionist is just wrong. | ||
| This is part of what the U.S. is. | ||
| And they're getting into our heads in all sorts of different ways. | ||
| Like, for example, if you say fentanyl is just revenge for the opium wars, you're giving the Chinese the excuses to exhibit bad behavior. | ||
| That's not factually correct. | ||
| So, as you know, I'm very strongly against letting the Chinese create the narrative. | ||
| They do it through TikTok. | ||
| They do it through social media. | ||
| Sorry, yeah. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| Cleo Pascal, Dave Bratt, closing thoughts and observations. | ||
| Next in the war room. | ||
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| We will fight till they're all gone. | ||
| We rejoice when they're no more. | ||
| Let's take down the CCB. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass. | ||
| A couple things. | ||
| At five o'clock, there's a story up by the Atlantic that Christy Noam, Marco Rubio, and Stephen Miller all have to live on military bases now because of security concerns. | ||
| This is how violent the radical left is when you have to have three people that need not just their own security because they have security detachments, it's better to live on a military base. | ||
| Think about that for a second. | ||
| We'll talk about that at five with others. | ||
| Also, at six, I'm going to take the entire hour and go through this extraordinary book, While Israel Slept, by two experts on Israeli military defense, intelligence, and technology. | ||
| This book reads like a novel, and your jaw will drop when you see this is the first cut at an investigation, and it is quite frankly brilliant. | ||
| So, one of the authors, Yaakov Katz, will join me at six. | ||
| I'll spend the entire hour breaking this book down. | ||
| Pretty extraordinary. | ||
| I want you to get the book, While Israel Slept. | ||
| It's on Amazon or a bookstore near you. | ||
| Patriot, we've got plenty of problems down in Texas. | ||
| Cornyn's sitting there, and Cornyn's going after Paxson because Paxon's going after the Tylenol situation, President Trump. | ||
| It's just a mess down there with guys like Cornyn. | ||
| More importantly, there's all types of nefarious activity, particularly with the Muslim Brotherhood, what's happening down there. | ||
| 972 Patriot. | ||
| Patriot Mobile's got your back all the time. | ||
| You wouldn't have the wins you have in Texas without Glenn Story and the team. | ||
| Call it right now. | ||
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| 972 Patriot, make the switch today, but go talk to the folks. | ||
| Tell them Bannon and the Warroom Center, you get a free month when you do the shift. | ||
| So go ahead and check it out today. | ||
| Cleo Pascal, amazing. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| We let you get your beauty sleep last night so you could come in and kill it today, which you did. | ||
| Particularly, I wrote that down with my number two pencil: parasitic. | ||
| Stop with the decoupling banner. | ||
| You're talking like a Wall Streeter. | ||
| Ma'am, give me your closing thoughts. | ||
| My closing thoughts are: the U.S. is still in the Pacific. | ||
| There are still American boys in the beaches of places like Tara and Macon, and they need to be brought home. | ||
| So there are two Marines that are currently walking from the 9-11 Memorial in New York to arrive at Quantico on 10-10 on the 250th anniversary of the Marine Corps to raise awareness that these boys are out there and they need to be brought home, including Sergeant Major Justin LaHue, the hero of Nazarea. | ||
| If you see them, wave, support them. | ||
| They're with historyflight.com. | ||
| And if you have a missing relative from World War II, please get in touch with them or others because there are some unidentified men who need DNA matches to be able to be brought home. | ||
| The blood and bodies of the Americans are still in the Pacific, as are American citizens. | ||
| This is part of the homeland. | ||
| Cleo, where do people get you, ma'am? | ||
| You can get me on just my name, Cleo Pascal, C-L E-O-K-A-K-L, on X. | ||
| And on Getter, I'm still just real, real Cleo because there is an unreal Cleo Pascal out there. | ||
| We enjoy them both. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| Dave Bratt, all political thoughts are your own, not anything you're affiliated with. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir? | ||
| Yeah, well, my thoughts today, I agree with Cleo, and I love the parasite. | ||
| And then the point I was trying to make earlier was that we got some U.S. CEO parasites living off the China parasite. | ||
| And so Trump needs to tell them, we're going to do Operation Barbarossa. | ||
| We're going to do a big pivot and move all our stuff so we're independent of China. | ||
| And you liked it better when Cleo said it. | ||
| So from now on, I'm going to use her terminology. | ||
| And that's all I got to say. | ||
| I only use decoupling because it was Bratt as the economist that told me that was the correct economic term. | ||
| But now it's parasitic. | ||
| I'm looking for my ivory. | ||
| It's better. | ||
| It's brutal and punching him in the face. | ||
| Captain Finnell in the new federal state of China is going to be the ivory Mecton. | ||
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| Yep, Brad Economics on Getter and X. Thank you, sir. | ||
| Arctic Frost, we're obviously going to spend a lot of time on that in the audio. | ||
| That's what we had John Solomon on today and Senator Hawley. | ||
| Biggest scandal in the history of this nation needs to be investigated and prosecuted. | ||
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| They're coming at you from every angle. | ||
| Why are they coming at My Pillow, which is an entrepreneurial company made by a former addict that turned his life over to Christ and built a company of American citizens that's thriving? | ||
| Why are they doing that, sir? | ||
| Because I've wanted to secure our elections for the last four and a half years following the stolen election of 2020. | ||
| They've never let up. | ||
| They figure they can destroy my voice by destroying my pillow, my employee-owned company. | ||
| Steve, it was kind of funny yesterday because with none of the legacy media in the Pentagon now, Lindell TB is the only one in all three. | ||
| So I was flooded with calls yesterday from CNN and all these going. | ||
| And I said, you know, you guys attacked me for four and a half years. | ||
| I said, you know, I feel really bad that you're not in the Pentagon now. | ||
| I mean, it's just, but they wouldn't want to talk about Arctic Frost, Steve. | ||
| I said, you guys see now everything I said was true. | ||
| Arctic Frost, they attacked me to silence me, to silence my crush my pillow. | ||
| And that's on top of the boating machine companies attacking me with lawfare. | ||
| Steve, it's all about been silencing my voice where a person could never question government private contractors again. | ||
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Check it out. | |
| Mike's back at 5. | ||
| Charlie Kirk shows next. | ||
| Jack the Sobik is after that. | ||
| I want to thank Jack for being with us last night. | ||
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