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Oct. 22, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4869: The Battle For New Jersey And Pennsylvania
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cliff maloney
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steve bannon
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bradley thayer
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ed luce
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jonathan martin
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mark bray
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maureen bannon
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michael pack
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steve schmidt
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donald j trump
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jake tapper
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lt col willy buhl
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michael steele
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mika brzezinski
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symone sanders-townsend
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willie geist
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willie geist
Three weeks now of the government shutdown having real impacts on people's lives, not getting paychecks, but you had the president yesterday now kind of gleefully talking about Rust Vogue, the OMB director.
While this is going on, I'm having him cut projects to blue states, calling him Darth Vader, saying this is fun for us.
We get to take things away from states that didn't vote for me.
unidentified
You know, the amazing thing about this is we are just nine months into the Trump presidency.
And the level of exhaustion that he has provided each and every day is just beyond belief.
It's historical.
You just can't imagine it.
I mean, on this day in 1962, John F. Kennedy addressed the nation in the Cuban Missile Crisis.
That was the highlight of his first year in the presidency, maybe the highlight of his first couple of years in the presidency.
Now it's every day, multiple times a day, that we have to focus on something that happened, whether he's destroying the East Wing in the White House, whether he's on again, off again with Vladimir Putin.
steve schmidt
The blue states can form legal interstate compacts, and they should come to a position, if you're a Democratic governor, that this moment of maximum abuse of power demands 100% of the time, in 100% of the instances, the maximum use of your legal power.
If you hear, and there are way too many Democratic leaders in Washington who say this will all just go back to normal when Trump is gone, that person is a fool and deluded.
And that person absolutely should not be in a position of responsibility in the opposition party.
This is a moment of deep, deep, deep danger for the American Republic.
The amount of armaments being bought by ICE, what Trump is declaring is I'm king, I'm law.
Why not 500 million as he demolishes the White House in an act of corruption paid for by billionaire oligarchs and companies?
Facebook demolished the White House.
Google demolished the White House.
Sam Altman demolished the White House.
And the politics of this moment, as the American people face economic misery ahead, will demand not going back to something that's gone, but imagining something that's new that prevents any of this from ever happening again in the United States of America.
We owe that to our children to heal our sick society from the sick and twisted presidency of the fascist Donald Trump.
jonathan martin
I think John Thune was hoping Democrats would fold in the first week or 10 days, but I think it was perhaps a conventional thought in Washington and hoped that they could peel off six, seven more Democrats beyond the three that I think first voted to keep the government open.
And it just hasn't happened.
And so I think Thune is now basically wedded to the Trump Johnson theory of just trying to hold out, hold out.
He has offered an olive branch promising Democrats that there'll be all these almost simultaneous votes to reopen the government and then address the health care issue.
But I think Thune is running up against something, which is words we don't typically say, democratic unity.
And by the way, I think healthcare is the vehicle, but let's be honest.
This is a general strike.
And it's a general strike among Democrats against Donald Trump's abuse of power.
It's the only leverage they have.
They don't control the House, Senator, White House.
The one weapon they have in their arsenal politically is we can shut down the government because it takes 60 votes in the Senate to keep the government open.
That's all they got.
This is their way of registering their opposition to Donald Trump's conduct, what you're talking about day in, day out.
Healthcare is good politics at Poleswell.
I understand that.
This is more a general, half the country is up in arms about how this man is running America.
And this is what we're going to do to say, you know what, half of America, we get it.
We hear you.
We're with you.
We're pissed too.
mika brzezinski
Ed, what do you make of the calling off of the proposed meeting in Hungary?
I just, if you look at the state that Russia is in right now, you would think that Trump has a pretty good, strong upper hand to push Putin into a corner, much like he did in the Middle East, where he was able to really pull things together and get a deal on the table.
Why is it so hard for him with Vladimir Putin?
ed luce
Oh, you're right, Mika.
I mean, Russia, the Economist did a sort of meta-estimate of Russia's death toll this year.
100,000 Russians have died this year, give or take.
Several hundred thousand since 2022.
You know, that's almost as much as the Mercatovsky in Korea and Vietnam combined over many, many, many years.
This is in one year.
So there is acute manpower pressure in Russia.
There is also acute pressure on paying recruitment bonuses to get these soldiers because the Ukrainians are getting the ability with drones and with their artillery and with their guided missiles to strike hundreds of miles deep into inside Russia to strike Russia's oil refineries.
And they could soon extend that to their pipelines too.
So the sort of spigot that is funding the ability to recruit Russian soldiers into this army with amazingly high casualties, that's being threatened too.
So a perfect time for the President of the United States to use real leverage on Putin to get him to the negotiating table.
But it's leverage that for one reason or another, and we can speculate probably fruitlessly about what that reason is.
But it's leverage that Trump has still, nine, ten months into his administration, not been prepared to use and shows no signs of being prepared to use it.
unidentified
He had you on last in 2017 to discuss your book, Mantifa, the Anti-Fascist Handbook, when it first came out.
In the introduction, you wrote you hoped your work would promote organizing against fascism and white supremacy.
Can you elaborate?
mark bray
Right.
So anti-fascism has a broad history.
In the U.S., certainly there's the European-inspired Antifa tradition.
There's also a really good book called The Black Anti-Fascist Tradition that talks about the role of anti-fascism in black liberation struggles, Black Panthers and so forth, which I suggest people check out.
So it takes many different forms.
What it has in common is actually this impulse towards unity and putting aside the differences that often divide the left in the interest of promoting the common struggle against fascism, against white supremacy.
And what we're seeing today in the U.S. is increasingly fascist.
MAGA, I believe, and I study fascism, I don't say this likely, is a fascist movement.
And if we don't organize, if we don't take action in the streets, we're going to end up somewhere really bad.
And for me personally, I felt like my situation was such that I had to get my family out of harm's way.
But this story about me is about me, but it's not really about me.
It's about attacks on academic freedom, free speech, the right to protest.
We're in a really dangerous situation.
And so everyone in their own way needs to take action to try and organize against us.
donald j trump
So we did the presidential walk of fame from the great George Washington all the way to, well, I think we have to rate him above me.
unidentified
So less than great, less than George.
donald j trump
Somebody went up there, they say, you're the third best president in the United States.
This was on television, third best.
And they said, who are the first two?
George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.
And I got extremely angry at this man.
You know, you can't, it's going to be tough to beat, Mr. Senator.
It's going to beat, John.
It's going to be very tough to beat Washington and Lincoln, but we're going to give it a try, right?
Hey, they didn't put out eight wars, nine coming.
unidentified
All right.
donald j trump
We put out eight wars, and the ninth is coming, believe it or not.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
President's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Wednesday, 22 October, Year of Our Lord 2025.
Welcome to the War Room, a day of intensity.
Government shutdown, President Trump's negotiating with the Chinese Communist Party.
We have a huge guest coming on at 11 o'clock.
major announcement about artificial intelligence.
Our one and only Joe Allen will join us.
If you did not see last night's six o'clock show, get it and watch it.
Or we'll put it back up again later in the week.
Absolutely, Drew Allen coming back from his 100-day journey through America and quite shocking some of the data that he has about artificial intelligence and about transhumanism and about the singularity.
So the specter over all of us is this drive by these oligarchs and the Chinese Communist Party and others to drive towards the point of the singularity.
From that point, there is no return, ladies and gentlemen.
The president of the United States and everything he's doing and balancing, one is this war against the radical element.
Because remember, the Democrats cannot win anymore at the ballot box.
The structural changes in the country's demographics and geographics make it so that this big surge to the south and to the southwest and to the intermountain west makes it that they're going to be very difficult for them to win the House of Representatives again, to take back the Senate.
And with a real census that we need to do mid-decade, no longer will the Electoral College be within grasp.
And as they get more and more radical, this no Kings thing is obviously a flop, but they're going to spiral into more and more violence.
Talk about structural.
North Carolina last night, the Senate voted for the new map.
So we're too jammed this morning to get deGrasse, but we got deGrasse on deck either for this afternoon or tomorrow to talk to you about the structural changes that are happening that make the Democrats less and less likely.
If we do our job, we have to do our job.
You have to get the grassroots out.
You have to get the MAGA vote out, obviously.
But if we do our job and you can see what the job is to do, so you can see where the victory, where victory is, then it's just execution.
You don't have to talk about strategy anymore or worry about that.
They're getting more and more radical.
They're getting more and more violent.
They're talking about violence nonstop.
Now they got the happy talk.
And the reason they don't talk about it at No Kings because a bunch of hapless old people with their walkers, all these liberals, progressives that have a frictionless life as it is, and all they do is bitch and moan about everything, right?
And you see this Rachel Maddow.
They had this disastrous, you know, open cattle call the other night in New York with the MSNBC crowd.
It was quite humiliating the audience, the crowd, the way they comported themselves.
I want to bring in Cliff Maloney.
So Cliff, I've got you here for New Jersey.
Also talk about some redistricting, and you're our ground game guy, one of the leaders of the ground game movement.
But I got to ask you, that Antifa interview was just yesterday.
Talk to me about that guy because you and our own beloved Jack Pasobic are on his target list.
Are you not?
cliff maloney
Yeah, you know, it's fascinating to me.
I wondered why I kept getting some random death threats back when this book came out.
But Mark Bray names me.
Steve, here's the best part.
I wrote an op-ed in Time magazine.
Can you believe it or not?
Time magazine actually published an op-ed that I wrote about campus free speech.
And the Antifa handbook names me and says, you know, this is horrific because Cliff Maloney stands for free speech on campus, which means he must support homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic language, which now, you know, thinking back to obviously what happened to Charlie, I wrote the op-ed talking about campus free speech.
And because of that, they put me in the Antifa handbook.
They're just wild people.
You know, these are not serious people.
And for them to do things like that, it just puts a target on a lot of our backs for just speaking for what I would call basic American freedoms.
steve bannon
That's where they do it.
Okay, Cliff, hang on.
We got a lot to talk about, including this.
Dr. Thayer is going to join us.
We're going to talk a little bit about the Chinese Communist Party, President Trump, and this negotiation.
But cultural nationalism, which is a good thing, in Great Britain and Ireland, they've made it a bad thing.
And Ireland is on fire now.
We're going to break that down.
So much going on this morning.
We're packed wall to wall.
Cliff Maloney is in our Palm Beach, West Palm Beach studio.
We're going to talk a little New Jersey in this race, and particularly the ground game.
What you need to do to get out the vote to have a victory like in 2024.
Short commercial break.
We're back in the warm in just a moment.
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michael steele
So now, North Carolina Republicans are one step closer to passing a gerrymander congressional map at the request of Donald Trump.
Today, the state Senate voted to advance a redrawn map that the House is expected to approve later this week.
Republicans already control 10 of the state's 14 congressional districts.
So the proposed map targets one more seat, Democratic Representative Don Davis.
North Carolina's Democratic governor can't veto this plan because of the state's constitution.
So there you are.
unidentified
There you are.
symone sanders-townsend
You know, a lot of people today, as we were talking about this, someone asked me, well, how is this even legal?
unidentified
And these maps were redrawn in 2023.
symone sanders-townsend
It's a great, it is the question to ask, but to be very clear, this is the direct result of the gutting of the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
When the Voting Rights Act was passed for nearly 50 years after that, it was Section 5, the pre-clearance section, that made sure that states with a history of discrimination, like North Carolina, okay, had to have their maps cleared, pre-cleared by the federal government before any changes to their maps would take place.
Well, in 2013, Shelby Beholder gutted that portion, and this is what Chief Roberts said.
He said, the times have changed.
Well, oh, how times have changed.
michael steele
And the anchor of all of this is the Voting Rights Act because the Voting Rights Act required the states to stay in, to color within.
steve bannon
In other words, this is power politics.
This is smash mouth.
Maximalists seize the institution's sense of urgency.
I don't want to hear their whining.
They've gun-decked this thing forever.
They've flooded the country with illegal alien invaders.
I have no mercy on these guys.
No pity.
And we need more.
We need what?
Kentucky and Missouri and Indiana, Indiana, we need 9-0.
No happy talk.
No, oh, well, we might upset the New York Times.
We don't care.
Cliff Maloney, and the reason you're targeted and Pesobic are targeted, you guys are in the field.
You were a field commander, one of the field commanders in Pennsylvania in the historic 2024.
And you came on the show months before and said, hey, if we can execute our plan, we will win.
So it's no more strategies if we can execute the plan.
The reason you're targeted by Antifa is not simply the fact you've been writing op-eds, et cetera.
They understand you and Pesobic and others are kind of some of the stalwarts of this movement.
And just like they assassinated Charlie Kirk, they're looking to target and put fear into other leaders of this movement.
Are you going to back down at all, Cliff?
Or have they gotten to you yet?
Have they rattled Cliff Maloney?
cliff maloney
Steve, my response to them is simple.
Double down, right?
Part of this America First movement, and so many patriots that watch this show, the whole war room posse, get this.
When these people come after you, there is only one response.
Any member of the political establishment, whether it's right or left, when they try to attack you, you can only respond by doubling down.
And Steve, let me announce this here to the War Room posse because I'm looking at the data.
I want to report some numbers to you guys from New Jersey.
We've got this New Jersey Chase program.
And by the way, anybody who wants to help us out, njchase.com, njchase.com.
Here's the result, and here's the big update I want to give to the entire war room.
As of this day, if you look just last year in the 2024 election, if you look this far out from the election in 2024, in New Jersey, we are performing at 5.5% better than we were one year ago.
And what do I mean by that?
I mean, when you look at the returns of Republicans versus Democrats, we are 5.5% better than we were one year ago.
And remember, Trump only lost Jersey by about 5.9%.
Jack Chitterelli, the governor candidate, four years ago, lost by just 3%.
So the program is working.
The NJ Chase effort is having an impact.
I'm not here today to tell you that Jack's going to win.
I'm here to tell you that New Jersey is in play, and we're going to do everything we can to try to bring him over the finish line.
If you had asked me six months ago, I would have said there's no chance to win New Jersey.
That has changed.
That is different, and I think we've got a shot here, and I'm asking everybody in the war room posse to focus on New Jersey.
We've got a chance to flip a completely blue state for the America First Movement.
steve bannon
The polling is around 3 to 5 percent, though, right?
The polling says right now, I think it's 3 to 5 percent, and the Democrats have a natural advantage.
What then do we need to do as far as turnout goes?
This is going to be a turnout election.
What do you need to do in the chase program and the other, the Scott Pressers of the world, all these people up in New Jersey?
Because Pressler says it, and I think you've also said it.
Pennsylvania could be the new Ohio, and New Jersey could be the new Pennsylvania.
What do we have to do in the next couple of weeks to make sure that we can push the Republican candidate over the top?
cliff maloney
Yeah, you said it exactly.
It's a turnout election, right?
We've got 118 full-time staffers in Pennsylvania right now.
I've got 105 full-time staffers in New Jersey.
These are the two states that I'm spending all of my time in because, as you just said, Steve, if Pennsylvania becomes the next Ohio, we've got a red wall that makes it impossible for Democrats to win a national election again.
If we flip New Jersey, we're talking about Democrats not being a party that can compete, I mean, in any way on the national stage, right?
That's why Scott Pressler has gone all in.
That's why I'm all in.
Steve, let me read you a couple points here that I think data that really kind of speaks to where we are in this election.
And for those out there, I don't know how familiar people are with New Jersey, but I want to just share these points.
Hudson County, Passaic County, Union County, and Essex County.
These are all counties that Harris won by 20-plus points.
And one of the problems the Democrats have right now is their turnout, right?
This is a turnout election, Steve, as you said.
In these counties, they're between 3 to 6 percent turnout.
They're banking, banking on these counties being kind of what drives the win for this Democrat, Mikey Sherrill, and they're just not turning out at the moment.
So I compare her, I call her, Mikey Sherrill, the Kamala Harris of New Jersey.
And why do I do that?
I'm not just being funny.
Steve, the more voters that interact with her, the more people that see her, that hear her message, the more she's losing votes.
And it's proving in the data here that the enthusiasm gap for Jack Chitterelli versus her, people are moving towards Jack.
And so when you ask me, how do we win this election, it's very simple.
If Republicans sit on the sidelines, we lose.
If Republicans show up, turn out, either vote by mail, vote early in person, or show up on Election Day, we're going to flip New Jersey.
Jack Chitterelli will be the next governor of New Jersey.
If every member of the war room posse reaches out to anyone who lives in New Jersey and tells them, hey, you have to go vote.
You have to show up for this.
This is about a referendum, not just on Donald Trump, but is the America First Movement going to continue as a stronghold in the political arena?
This election will determine that.
steve bannon
This also solves, we have to talk about the elephant in the room.
The elephant in the room, we have not shown yet either the Republican Party or ourselves as a movement that we can consistently turn out lower propensity, low propensity, and lower information voters.
And what I mean by that is not intelligence.
They're just not that engaged in politics without Trump actually on the ballot.
This is another test case of this where we have to show that we can do that, correct?
cliff maloney
No, 100%.
And listen, it's an interesting conversation at the door.
Let me tell you what the experience is like when we go door to door.
Our whole universe, Steve, once again, we have two phases in the New Jersey Chase program, just like we did in Pennsylvania.
The first phase, which is now over, is going to low-propensity voters.
These are folks that have voted in zero, one, or two of the last four general elections.
And we say, hey, Bob, I know you don't vote that consistently, but we'd love to get you a request form to fill out so that you can get a mail-in ballot.
And Bob always says what you just said, Steve.
Oh, I vote every election.
Well, Bob, we've got the records here.
You voted in one of the last four general elections.
And I'm not trying to shame the voter.
I'm not trying to insult the voter, but I'm trying to have an honest conversation.
And we get them a request form, and then they fill it out, and we get a ballot sent to them.
Now, what happens once a ballot is sent to them?
Seven out of ten of these low-propensity Republicans, once they get a ballot sent to them, will now vote.
They become likely to vote.
They become a high-propensity voter.
That's phase one.
Phase two in this program is we go to every single door of a Republican who has a mail-in ballot.
And we say to them, hey, you've got a ballot sitting there.
Can we just confirm that you're going to send that back today?
And Steve, here's the best part of the program.
We took this from Biden's 2020 playbook.
We go back with the same door knocker to the same door every seven days.
And we continuously remind, we call it a reminder campaign.
Biden called it annoying the voter, right?
I don't call it that, but that's what Biden's people called it in 2020.
We call it a reminder campaign.
So we're going to these low-propensity voters and we're just saying, hey, send that ballot back.
And that's what this is.
It is a turnout game.
We don't have election day.
We don't have election weekend.
We don't have election week.
We don't have election month.
We have election season in America.
I'm not here to endorse it, Steve, but I'm here to tell the war room posse one thing.
If the rules remain as they do, we have two options.
We can sit out and we can lose, or we can fight fire with fire.
That's what we do at Citizens Alliance.
We're going to beat the Democrats at their own game.
And if we're successful in New Jersey, we will have flipped one of the bluest states and it will be a total, total hide on the barn.
steve bannon
The greatest tee up for the midterms can be this New Jersey situation.
Plus, it forces them to put tons of resources that they never thought they were going to have to put.
Cliff, where do people go to get to New Jersey Chase, to the Alliance, and to you, your social media?
Where do they go?
cliff maloney
On X at Maloney, M-A-L-O-N-E-Y, and then njchase.com.
That's njchase.com.
$175 covers a full day of ballot chasing, and 100% of that money goes to their pay, their housing, and their gas cards.
Steve, appreciate you as always.
Thanks for the platform, and thanks to the War Room posse.
steve bannon
One of the field commanders from 2024 in Pennsylvania, Cliff Maloney.
Thanks, brother.
Thanks for the work up there.
It's a dogfight.
Didn't say this was going to be easy.
unidentified
It's a heavy lift, but doable.
jonathan martin
Short break.
steve bannon
It was almost as though there was a Pokemon out there.
unidentified
We were facing a lot more enemy than we had the capability to deal with.
cliff maloney
They dug trenches, they fortified houses.
They were ready.
unidentified
We wanted to go.
We were just waiting on the edge of a knife.
When are we going to get to go?
The order is seize the city.
RPGs, small arms fire from everywhere.
I told him that I wanted to go, and he looked at me and said, Sorry, you're going to die.
steve bannon
The destruction is just horrible.
unidentified
The hardest thing about fighting this enemy is they're not afraid to die.
They're not afraid to die, then how do you fight them?
Ramps going down!
Be prepared to start at one end of the city and fight your way through to the other end.
lt col willy buhl
There's firing going on.
There are grenades being thrown in the house.
cliff maloney
It came hand-to-hand fighting.
jonathan martin
It was so close.
unidentified
two selfless marines run across this kill zone four times to pull marines out of there i wasn't worried about you know getting shot or getting wounded or I was worried about the guys to my left and right.
lt col willy buhl
You always want to reassure these men that they've done their duty because that memory is seared into their soul.
They never forget it.
None of us do.
unidentified
Foreign policy, I don't make it.
I just deliver the last 600 meters of it.
steve bannon
The foreign policy, I don't make.
I just delivered the last 600 meters.
This film was, I guess it's 17 years ago.
I was honored with Michael Pack's wife to be the executive producer.
And PAC made a classic.
The Marines say, many of the Marines say it's the best film ever made about Marine rifle squads because if you see Hollywood movies, they've got all kinds of, you know, plot devices they have to use to try to draw a broader audience.
This is just the thing itself.
You see it for the entire time.
Pack was going to make a movie.
Michael Pack joins us.
We got a special announcement.
We got PAC here.
Maybe I hopefully got Mo.
Pack, when you left PBS the first time under Bush's, under President Bush's presidency, they basically said, well, finance, a film you want to do.
And you were going to do a high-tech, you were going to talk about the Iraq war, modern warfare, kind of extrapolated from what had happened in the Gulf War as a super high-tech war.
And after doing your research, you came back and said, hey, this is really going to be a war about 17 and 18-year-old privates, non-commissioned officers, they're in their early 20s, and second lieutenants and first lieutenants going door to door in some of the most brutal fighting in the history of the United States Marine Corps.
And over 250 years, folks, that's saying something.
And this film is just brutal in its reality.
And you come away just awestruck by the courage and compassion of the Marines, unlike any film I think I've ever seen.
It's just, you're just sitting there, it's just absolutely stunning, the valor, particularly when you think about the confusion about what the cause was and what the purpose.
In World War II, there was no confusion at all about what the purpose was, what the task and the purpose.
Here, obviously, it was very contentious.
It gets more contentious over time.
But for the actual moment itself, First Battle of Fallujah, the Battle of Najaf, and the Second Battle of Fallujah, the Mac Daddy, it's stunning.
Tell me about it.
michael pack
Indeed, I've moved even to see the trailer.
I mean, whatever you think of the Iraq war, we need to celebrate the young men and women that we asked to be on the front lines for us and risk their lives.
I think their honor has been clouded by mixed feelings about the war.
But now, as you know, we finished this film 17 years ago, but now maybe it's its right time.
I think people can look back and not be clouded by ideology.
And at the same time, we see that our allies and we ourselves likely will be enmeshed in the same kind of warfare in Gaza, in Ukraine, wherever.
I mean, not all war is like World War I and World War II.
Its most common warfare is this kind of counterinsurgency.
And as you say, Fallujah and Najaf are the biggest battles America has fought since Vietnam.
We owe it to the people who fought there to understand what happened and to tell their story.
And I'm really happy that it's going to be airing Veterans Day Eve on PBS at 10 p.m., 10 p.m.
November 10th, and the Marine Corps birthday.
steve bannon
Well, the 250, I think what's the 250th birthday, the official birthday of the United States Marine Corps, we're going to be doing stuff all day in that weekend to tee up for it.
But PBS has finally cried uncle and said they will give its first national airing at the 10 p.m. slot, which last night we told you about Bobby Kennedy's.
I think we're going to try to have the filmmaker from Bobby Kennedy's film from PBS Hicks on tonight to discuss that.
10 p.m. is kind of their primetime slot.
So they've given you quite a compliment.
They've given you the primetime slot on PBS for the 250th commemoration of the birthday of the United States Marine Corps.
We've actually, you're doing something else that we're, the war room is one of the parties to this.
I got Mo on.
And I want to make sure the people in the war room posse know this and know where they can go.
And so Mo can work with you.
On the 30th, we're actually going to do a public screening.
And folks, if you have the opportunity to see this on a big screen, because it's a totally different experience than watching it on your device or watching it on your TV, it's almost overwhelming, which is the point of the film of what these men went through.
Talk to me about what's going to happen on the 30th.
michael pack
Well, it'll be the premiere screening.
It'll be at the Navy Memorial in downtown D.C., a great setting for it because, as you know, the Marines are part of the Navy.
And we'll have lots of people there, a lot of veterans.
A lot of the people that are in the film really want to come.
You know, you and I promised them it would be broadcast nationally, and now finally it is.
Your viewers and listeners can go to this event Bright link, which is special for the war room, and the first 100 war room people will get a free ticket.
It's a screening, and we'll have light refreshments.
We'll have some speakers.
You know, you and I will speak, Steve, and maybe we'll get some of these veterans and maybe a Trump veteran to speak.
And I think it's really, you know, as we get closer to Veterans Day, a really perfect way to honor people.
And I think it'll be a great event.
You know, there are.
You know, there'll be a very mixed group of people there, not just war room types, but lots of different kinds of people.
People from PBS will be there.
So it'll be a really interesting event in itself.
And you're right.
I always wanted people to see it on the big screen.
You can even see from the trailer that a lot of this footage really needs to be seen in its fullness.
I mean, a lot of it is just complex footage with a lot going on in it.
And you can actually see the characters in the footage, but if only blown up big, can you kind of see what they're doing?
So it's very important to see it on a screen.
I think it'll be a great event in and of itself.
We are happy to offer this special deal to War Room fans, the War Room posse.
steve bannon
Yeah, so Mo, we've got basically 100 tickets allocated.
Mo, where do they go?
And then you'll make personal contact with us because we want to make sure it's a crowd that will appreciate this.
Like I said, this is to honor and it's really to honor the spirit of the Marine Corps.
And I think the men in this film would say that, that this is not about them.
In fact, the power of the film is that kind of unbroken chain of courage and valor and what they hold themselves up to.
They realize they're holding themselves up to the finest traditions of the Corps.
And you see some of these efforts they make, superhuman efforts from ordinary people.
The superhuman efforts are because of their respect and reverence that the United States Marine Corps imbues into the actual devil dogs themselves.
And that's the power of the movie.
So, Mo, where do we go right now?
You're kind of my organizer on this.
Yes, we will allow, as I say, I'm a naval officer, but as people tell me, we're finally doing something about the men's department of the Navy, the United States Marine Corps, and we're going to put an Army logistics officer in charge.
Mo, where do they go?
maureen bannon
I mean, you know, then it'll be handled correctly if Army Logistics is in charge of it.
But you can go to eventbrite.com slash E slash last 600 meters premiere war room tickets.
We will post the link as well so that everyone can find it.
But like Michael said, no matter how you feel about the Iraq war, we need to honor those that fought in it.
And this is a great way to do that.
I was able to see the last 600 meters back actually before I went to West Point.
So while it was still in the process of being made and totally finalized, and it was a very transformative movie to me.
So I highly encourage everyone, if you're in the DC area, to try and get tickets and get to that screening because it is an amazing movie and it truly honors those men that fought back in Iraq with the United States Marine Corps.
And no matter what branch of service you are, the Marines are amazing men and women now.
steve bannon
Amazing.
You mentioned something.
I don't want to bury the lead there.
Everybody in this film that you will see, and this is what inspired Mo and other people, and I was so proud of people like Mo and others that went to these academies during the war.
They're all volunteers.
They're no draftees here.
These men knew what they were getting into and volunteered.
That's courage.
That is courage.
When you know that this is going to be grimy.
And so you got the first battle of Fallujah, the Battle of Ninja, the Second Battle of Fallujah.
And when you see these, understanding that 99% of the audience will say, well, hold it, I don't even remember these battles.
You will see the most intense large-scale battles that the Marine Corps really had since, I think, Way City back during the Tet Offensive in Vietnam.
Michael Pack, where do people go to get all your information about everything you're working on?
michael pack
Well, I should also say that we prefer to people go to Eventbrite, but if they actually can't find it, if they go to info at manifoldproductions.com, we'll be able to send them the Eventbrite link.
But it's two steps.
It's way easier to go to Eventbrite.
They want to find out about the rest of Manifold Production stuff.
They need films.
They need to go to manifoldproductions.com.
And our more recent films are at palladiumpictures.com.
My Twitter is Michael Pack underscore, but I think there's more information on the website.
There's the Palladium website, and they can find out about work or even recommend someone to be in our incubator.
And so I think there's a lot there, including another film Steve and I worked on about Admiral Rick Over and a bunch of other films too.
steve bannon
One of my favorites.
One of the greatest men of the 20th century and a film with Tim Blake Nelson, Tim Blake Nelson, Tim Blake Nelson from Oh, Brother, Where Art Thou, the comedy.
He absolutely plays a stunning Hyman Rickover.
It's really, it's a magnificent film, Michael.
Thank you so much, brother, for joining us.
Look forward to seeing you on the 30th.
michael pack
Absolutely.
Thank you, Steve.
Thank you, Ebo.
And I look forward to seeing you both on the 30th.
steve bannon
Captain Bannon, one more time.
Where do people go to find out about these tickets?
And they're free.
So where do people go?
maureen bannon
Eventbrite.com slash E slash slash last 600 meters premiere war room tickets.
And we will post it so that there's no difficulties.
steve bannon
Yeah, it's complicated even for me.
By the way, Mo, you keep talking smack about the Army and your logistics.
You know, you might get recalled back to active duty under President Trump and go to CENCOM and help because the entire 200 people associated with the United States military and CENCOM organizing this are all logistics folks, right?
Back to your natural calling, ma'am.
maureen bannon
Well, CENCOM is headquartered very close by.
So I'll do it in a civilian capacity.
They don't need to recall me to active duty.
I'll be a civilian contractor.
steve bannon
No, no, no, no.
You're getting sworded into Doha.
Ma'am, thank you so much.
Appreciate you.
maureen bannon
Thank you.
steve bannon
Mo Bannon.
The 30th of October.
Let's get as many of you folks there as possible.
It's going to be an incredible night.
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So, Thayer, I got you on here.
There's a lot going on in Ireland that you and I follow closely.
I'm going to get to that, but it's going to have to be in the second hour.
We've got a big announcement about artificial intelligence and artificial general intelligence is coming up at the top of the hour.
And our own Joe Allen will join us for that.
We've also got a very special guest we're very honored to have.
But one of the issues clouding the specter of it is what's thrown in everybody's face and they say, hey, we need to actually get a process so we know what's going on with artificial intelligence in the rush to get to artificial general intelligence because people say, well, we had a Sputnik moment and they're clearly ahead.
I think it was deep seek and we've got to combat that.
And I say, hang on for a second.
When we deal with China and the Chinese Communist Party and Wall Street and the corporatists and particularly Silicon Valley, throw that in your face.
There's a big caveat.
We supply the financing.
We supply the technology.
We supply the training.
We have 350,000 kids here every year getting advanced training and everything.
We've got guys in our national labs.
We have Chinese nationals all over the place and corporations.
It is, I'm not saying it's easy, but it's very doable to sit there and go, no, we are not prepared to support you as you race for artificial general intelligence to basically try to control not simply the world, but all mankind.
Am I correct in that statement?
There are actions we could take today if we had the political will and to force the political will on these out-of-control, corporatist oligarchs in Silicon Valley, and particularly the Lords of Easy Money on Wall Street, sir.
bradley thayer
Yes, Steve, thanks for calling attention to this issue.
It's so important to do so.
Look, first, we need to recognize how important artificial intelligence is for Xi Jinping.
He's looking for artificial intelligence to save him, to save his economy, because his economy is in the doldrums, right?
He's in recession.
So, Xi and the party officials often speak of what they call the active deployment of a systemic strategy centered on new quality production forces to reshape the global competitive landscape.
What does that mean?
That means that he's looking to seize and to dominate in artificial intelligence and some other related technologies to save his economy, to save the party, to save his leadership, and to give him the weapons that he's going to need to defeat the United States.
And so, we need to recognize what Xi wants from this, and that explains his focus and his intensity that the CCP have on artificial intelligence.
Secondly, what do we need to do?
Well, what we need to do is to cut them off from our brains, cut them off from our money, cut them off from our technology and any type of exchanges.
So, no chips, right?
No chips from NVIDIA or anyone else, no students, as you mentioned, right?
That STEM fields are dominated by Chinese students.
Chinese students run so many labs in American universities, and that has to be ended.
No technology, no investment.
Wall Street is still funding these guys, right?
You still have our money going into military-civil fusion, right?
Still going into these firms.
No exchanges, right, in terms of scientific exchanges in this area at all.
So, we need to cut them off.
Thirdly, more investment, more focus, intensity on our side, right, in terms of doing what we can to organize our response.
I don't think we can leave it to DARPA to handle this.
steve bannon
No, it's bigger.
Hang on for a second.
Hang on a second.
It's bigger than DARPA and it's bigger than the weapons labs.
But I just want to reiterate: no chips, no dollars, no kids, no training over here, no access to our brains, no access to our technology, no access to our country.
Don't sit there and throw in our face, oh, gosh, you're going to kowtow the Chinese Communist Party.
We are about in this show and the leader of the movement to hard decouple from these criminals, not make money with them, not make money in partnership with them.
If you want to stop artificial general intelligence and make sure we can have a rational human conversation about it, you have to take the dictatorship that is the cruelest, most barbaric in the history of this planet.
And that's saying something.
When you go rack up some of the dictatorships you've had and no kings crowd, look at the Chinese Communist Party, the people that back so much of what you're doing.
You don't want artificial general intelligence?
Shut it down.
It can be shut down easily by shutting down any access of the communist to our technology and money.
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