Oct. 21, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| Maryland. | ||
| Maryland was a little bit off the hook. | ||
| The biggest city in the state, Baltimore, of course, not only had a huge turnout for No Kings. | ||
| Again, it's another one of those cities that Trump is threatening to send the military into it. | ||
| That I think helps goose turnout in any city that he's threatening. | ||
| But Baltimore, simultaneous to its very large No Kings event also had a huge marathon this weekend. | ||
| That said, credit to the city and its public safety and political leadership. | ||
| Everything seems to have gone off without a hitch in Baltimore. | ||
| Here's a look at Baltimore and also towns in Maryland and Frederick, Maryland. | ||
| Boston? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Again, not AI. | ||
| That's a real thing. | ||
| Look at that crowd in Boston. | ||
| Boston mayor Michelle Wu told the huge crowd at the Boston Comment that in Boston every day is No King's Day. | ||
| Because duh. | ||
| It was just huge in in Boston. | ||
| But there were more than a hundred No Kings protests in Little Old Massachusetts. | ||
| It's Michigan also had more than a hundred No Kings protests this weekend, all over the state, including up into the upper peninsula. | ||
| Here's a look at Ann Arbor up in the upper left, where they had a huge turnout. | ||
| Also a really big turnout in in Detroit. | ||
| There's a look at Ferndale, Michigan in the lower left there, and of course our beloved Flint, Michigan in the lower right. | ||
| Let's take it above Trump. | ||
| Like the reason that people should care is that the more you consolidate the power in one person, the less power you have as an individual. | ||
| The country was not set up to be an all-powerful monarchy. | ||
| But over the last 25 years, you've had both parties make government a hell of a lot bigger and provide a hell of a lot more power to the president. | ||
| Trump has taken that and he's put it on steroids. | ||
| Republicans are gleeful because they have the power. | ||
| But like you said, they will do unto you what you did to them. | ||
| You've been in the game longer than I have, Joe, and you know that there's no new power that is ever introduced into politics by one party that is not used and often abused and stretched to new lengths by the next one. | ||
| Head to head, Minneapolis to Boston. | ||
| This is pretty intense, right? | ||
| I don't know why I was surprised to see something that huge for No Kings in Minneapolis, but Minneapolis was just gigantic. | ||
| Um here's uh Minneapolis and also Duluth in the upper left. | ||
| Uh Anoka, Minnesota, and Northfield, Minnesota. | ||
| Head from Minnesota down to Mississippi, No Kings protests, not just in you know, College Town, Oxford, Mississippi, the whole home of old miss, uh, and in Jackson, where people rallied on the South Lawn of the Mississippi State Capitol, but you also saw good turnout and big protests in Hernando, Mississippi, uh, and in spunky little beautiful Gulfport, Mississippi. | ||
| They got a big crowd there. | ||
| Throngs of people filled and then spilled out of Milk Creek Park in Kansas City. | ||
| So here's a look at uh Kansas City, Missouri, really was big. | ||
| And Columbia, Missouri, which was also really big. | ||
| Springfield, Missouri, look at that, both sides of the street. | ||
| And then up at the upper right-hand corner there, that's Jeff City. | ||
| Jeff City, Jefferson City, the state capital of Missouri people there on the state capitol steps. | ||
| Numbers in some surprising places. | ||
| Uh, here's West Yellowstone and Red Lodge, Mantana, Montana. | ||
| That's Bozeman up in the upper left. | ||
| Our friends again at States Newsroom report that in Pole Bridge, Montana, which is right on the edge of Glacier National Park, they had more people turn out to protest than the actual population of the town. | ||
| Welcome visitors. | ||
| But what the basic premise is is that, yeah, we're never gonna let them take power again. | ||
| That's why we have to go. | ||
| That's why we have to play to win. | ||
| Because right now, the rule of the game is not the rule of law, but might make it right. | ||
| And we have the power, we can never let it up. | ||
| And that is the the second part of that sort of thing that they put out there. | ||
| Some people say, yeah, I don't want it to go to come around again. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, and that's why you need to either stomach what Trump is doing, right? | ||
| Why you need to go along with this stuff, even though it's you think it's wrong, even though you know what's ridiculous, even though it cuts against you and you believe it in free speech or freedom or America, because we need to win, otherwise they're gonna come and get you twice as hard next week. | ||
| Who is the we there? | ||
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MAGA? | |
| That's it. | ||
| It's MAGA. | ||
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It's largely MAGA. | |
| And that is why you see some of the breaks with the newer parts of the, you know, sort of like the podcast things that align with Trump the last cycle, they don't really see themselves as part of that we. | ||
| Um, and so they're willing to be more vocal and critical on a lot of these things because they they don't see themselves that way. | ||
| But anyone that's really seen themselves as part of MAGA thinks, you know, you know what? | ||
| We we now have made a deal with the devil. | ||
| We have to go through with it because if we don't, they're gonna come and get us. | ||
| Not even fully into his first year in office here. | ||
| And he just had one of the largest days of protest in American history against him in every frickin' state in the country. | ||
| And so yeah, naturally, he celebrates the occasion by getting out of backhoe to start tearing down the White House. | ||
| He really doesn't want to have to answer to the people. | ||
| You wouldn't do that if you ever thought you had to. | ||
| There's a big protest movement now in this country. | ||
| A big, sustainable, growing, peaceful, fired up protest movement, standing against this very unpopular president who is not doing anything to make himself more popular over time. | ||
| All the popular resistance to him just grows and grows and grows. | ||
| About Republicans complaining that he is being dubbed a king, is that in their minds he has already surpassed that title anyway and moved on to a much higher calling. | ||
| He's a miracle worker. | ||
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Trump just performed an actual miracle before our eyes. | |
| He was saved to do things like he did today. | ||
| He's got just a special anointing. | ||
| Prophecy, destiny, and divine purpose. | ||
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President Trump is God's chosen instrument for this moment in time. | |
| I've seen the hand of God on him for a very long time. | ||
| You know, we're saving Christianity. | ||
| We're saving God. | ||
| To Republicans, King is a demo. | ||
| He's not a king. | ||
| He's a deity. | ||
| Sent by God to bring peace to all of mankind. | ||
| A Jesus-like figure. | ||
| I mean, I get it. | ||
| There is a lot of crossover. | ||
| That's why tonight I thought we'd end our program. | ||
| With some fun. | ||
| Play the hottest new game show on basic cable. | ||
| Jesus or Trump. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| You guys are very good at this game. | ||
| So if you ask, is Trump a king? | ||
| Nay! | ||
| Nay! | ||
| He is the king of kings. | ||
| And that, my friends, is a reason to rejoice. | ||
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Oh my God! | |
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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Warum. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | ||
| Tuesday 21 October, year of our Lord 2025. | ||
| In fact, if my great uh production crew here in the Rachel Maddow, you know, she gets into this thing, and I think the next block you and I talked about, about three and a half percent. | ||
| If you can pull that, I want to play that a little later. | ||
| Uh Dave Bratt's gonna write Shotgun with us uh this morning. | ||
| Um the uh, you know, Rachel Maddow, the brains of the operation. | ||
| I think it's pretty evident now, she's punched out. | ||
| I mean, it's they spent 30 minutes on the show last night because you can only watch her on Monday. | ||
| 30 minutes on the show, talking about the epic fail of the no kid, the no kings. | ||
| They're hanging their head on this of like Trump's authoritarian breakout can only be stopped by the no kings movement. | ||
| First of all, it's the dumbest name in the world, but let's forget the branding for a second. | ||
| Their whole purpose is they're trying to make an argument that this thing is building with intensity. | ||
| This is building with this is building with uh scale. | ||
| Because they've got this theory of the case uh from that uh whack job up at Harvard, the Institute of Politics, the one that Natalie Winters goes through and you know blows up every couple of weeks. | ||
| She's got this theory of how how countries are these political scientists have how countries stop uh the rise of authoritarians, and they get three ways they do it. | ||
| You know, they're they're nonviolent, they are uh they show momentum, they have urgency, they get to scale. | ||
| And essentially three and a half percent, your th their theory, these political scientists, right, who are all a bunch of guys that don't men and women don't know anything, that um that at three and a half percent of the population you have a breakout, and that's how you thwart the rise of the authoritarians. | ||
| Um, but you can tell they're trying to make this No Kings thing to something that's not, it's a fail. | ||
| If that's the best you got, these old um, you know, the liberals you know when you see around that they whine about everything, they want a frictionless life, and all they do is bitch about everything. | ||
| Because all of most of them are in dead-end jobs, they've been they they've never really been rewarded in life for what they feel is their proper place in the universe, particularly intellectually. | ||
| So they're just the meanest, nastiest, most bitter people in the world. | ||
| One of the reasons I love the MAGA movement is kind of the determination and grit, but also just the good old American, you know, the the the fun understanding in adversity, right? | ||
| And in comradeship and in brotherhood and all that, you can have fun. | ||
| And it's the glint in the eyes of people in understanding what they're fighting for a higher cause, which is defense of this republic as a as the new Jerusalem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're fighting it, we're fighting a spiritual war. | ||
| And folks understand that and embrace that. | ||
| On the other side, you just have the same bitter um, you know, people that don't feel they've been rewarded in life because they're smarter than everybody, and they're stuck in some dead-end job, either as a teacher or professor, or you know, something something that's attached to to the government, right? | ||
| And so they never think they've been rewarded, and they're bitter for it. | ||
| And this thing had no energy. | ||
| The crowds are all just it was a joke, and it's no seven million. | ||
| Give me a break. | ||
| These crowds were nothing. | ||
| It's a nothing burger. | ||
| If you can't get more than that in New York City to rally against Trump, because it's all hatred, it's pure hatred of Trump. | ||
| And no kings, a guy that won the House of the Senate, the popular vote, uh, the Electoral College, and is dominating them on everything, full spectrum dominance to the fact that they've shut down the government on illegal aliens because they don't have illegal aliens, they don't have anything. | ||
| The reason is they don't have enough of the American people. | ||
| Now, and Brad's gonna join me, sorry, I want to get to this uh instrument of divine will or the providential nature of President Trump's um political life, right? | ||
| The political life. | ||
| The um, as it becomes more and more evident to these folks, and you're going to see this because of the structural realignment of the country, demographically, and and where the country's moving to that's become structurally harder and harder for them to get power through the democratic process. | ||
| What do I mean by well, Steve? | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| Well, let's give you some details. | ||
| The Supreme Court, as you know, we followed it closely, this um this uh racial gerrymandering uh argument they had, and I believe that they'll come back in January, and I think we're gonna win that. | ||
| And that CNN tells me that's 10 seats. | ||
| The New York Times, I think says 19, although I may have those reversed, but somewhere between 10 and 19 seats will flip and become um, you know, not just competitive, but seats that it should both groups think the Republicans pick up. | ||
| So that's huge. | ||
| But in addition, we have our daily work here at the war room, which is you remember this audience delivered, I don't know, eight or ten seats in 21 and early 22 that became the basis for polypockets uh speakership, McCarthy first, and then replaced by uh by Polly Pockets. | ||
| The um the gross amount of that number is 21, is Alex DeGross, who's kind of one of the chief architects of this and was the chief architect of 21-22 has come on here. | ||
| Now that includes the five in Texas, but we've already banked, but it also it doesn't net out the five That it looks like, unless we make some dramatic changes, and what I mean by that is get President Trump engaged in the in the contest out there, which the locals heretofore have not wanted, but you must get Trump engaged to stop Newsome in California. | ||
| You add, I don't know. | ||
| 10 or 12 there, maybe 15 there, net. | ||
| You had 10, 12, 15, net, and the others, you got 20 north. | ||
| It makes it very, very, very difficult for the for the for the radical democrats to think that they can have have a shot of taking back the house. | ||
| Now, look, we're gonna have to fight every day for that, but it makes it the it makes the odds longer. | ||
| Also, there's a couple of structural issues in that demographic shift about the Senate. | ||
| You add on top of it, what I think we ought to make a top priority is a mid-uh decade census. | ||
| The one in 2020 was gun decked. | ||
| Stephen Miller and I had it that no illegal aliens would be would be counted. | ||
| Because the illegal aliens cannot be counted and should not be counted. | ||
| And that was overruled by Wilbur Ross and the Wall Street crowd over commerce at the time. | ||
| We kick that back in, and hey, guess what? | ||
| It becomes self-evident on the electoral college basis, they can't win anywhere. | ||
| Anyway, short, short, short break. | ||
| Back in the warm in a second. | ||
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| Okay. | ||
| Anyway, as they get more and more desperate, they're obviously anti-democratic. | ||
| You saw what the illegitimate regime did. | ||
| They stole the 2020 election. | ||
| Yes, they did. | ||
| They stole the 2020 election, and then they uh clamped down with the uh vaccine mandates, right? | ||
| Uh they ran this um like uh like the Bolsheviks ran things. | ||
| Remember the billboards about people that if you know anybody that went to January 6th or whatever, the lives of others, like the East Germans and the Stasi. | ||
| So we know what they're like. | ||
| That's why you back President Trump. | ||
| Yes, you, this audience back President Trump, put your shoulder to the wheel immediately and said no, it's not gonna be Ronda Saves, it's not gonna be Nikki Haley. | ||
| Trump's coming back, and we're gonna set things right here. | ||
| So the American Cincinnatus, that would be Donald Trump, and you are his legions. | ||
| And the left is gonna become more and more apparent because of demographic shifts in the nation and geographic shifts in the nation, that uh structurally it's gonna be harder and harder and harder for the Democrats to actually uh you know take over, take take back the institutions. | ||
| This is why I say maximalist strategy, move with urgency and seize the institutions while seizing the institutions. | ||
| Um and they're gonna get more and more violent and more and more dangerous, and they're gonna be putting up guys like Mandami in these big urban areas where they can get all the illegal aliens in and get them somehow to vote. | ||
| That's why you have to have ICE officers at the polls in 2026, and you know, be rolling up people and arresting people and mass deportations. | ||
| That'll get their attention. | ||
| I want to play though, uh President Trump is providential. | ||
| I had a ringside seat, and President Trump is not churchy in that particularly, I don't know, not particularly churchy, okay. | ||
| But he is an instrument of divine will, and he's a providential figure. | ||
| Of that, it's obvious, the facts laid out. | ||
| Let's go and play some cuts from the war room, and then we'll bring in the day Brett. | ||
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In the lesson of Trump in the steal of 2020, Providence was working through that. | |
| Look, Trump, I've had an opportunity to see it up close. | ||
| For 10, I don't know, 12 years, 13 years. | ||
| It's providential. | ||
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He's a very imperfect individual. | |
| His imperfections in his overcoming his imperfections to save the country makes his greatness even more. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| We've had three in this country. | ||
| General Washington, at the revolution and the birth of the nation. | ||
| You see, Washington, if you read the bar priests, they were torturing him all the time, particularly in the revolution. | ||
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Right. | |
| They're trying to cashier him, they're putting the knives in his back. | ||
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I mean, this guy was steady at, and that's how we got through the revolution. | |
| He wouldn't quit. | ||
| And he understood, if you don't quit, we're gonna live. | ||
| Civil war, Abraham Lincoln, right? | ||
| Same way. | ||
| At the rebirth of the nation. | ||
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And Trump at the reclaiming of the nation, the rejuvenation of the nation. | |
| That's why it's all the right thing. | ||
| This is not normal politics. | ||
| We're not talking about marginal tax rates. | ||
| We're not talking about just what would the basic politics of the turn of the century. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Think about it for a second yourself. | ||
| You're much savbier today about politics, the economy, the way the country works, right? | ||
| If you go back in time and look at yourself and your own political life and what you believed and what you donated for, right? | ||
| You've had a great awakening. | ||
| A great awakening that is tied to a spiritual awakening, led by a man that Trump is not particularly churchy, right? | ||
| Because God chooses his instruments. | ||
| And they hate him because they understand your commitment to him. | ||
| And part of your commitment is you understand, wait for it, MSNBC, wait for it, wait for it. | ||
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No, don't go, wait for it. | |
| He is an instrument of divine providence. | ||
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Yep. | |
| He is. | ||
| Of that there's no doubt. | ||
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There's empirical evidence of that. | |
| This is one of the reasons people support him because they understand he's doing God's will. | ||
| To save this republic. | ||
| When all rationality said, No, let me not do that, they win. | ||
| Trump wouldn't do that. | ||
| Trump would never quit. | ||
| Trump would never back down. | ||
| And that's why they hate him, and that's why they must destroy him. | ||
| But also divine providence. | ||
| Do not forget the assassination attempt. | ||
| We came one eighth of one eighth of one-tenth of one-twentieth of one millimeter from having President Trump's head blown off. | ||
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Right? | |
| On live TV. | ||
| That was the work, that was the hand of God. | ||
| That was the hand of God that gave us the opportunity, the inflection point for you to use your agency three months later, four months later, and deliver this stunning victory, the same divine providence to put me in a prison, right? | ||
| Because it is God's plan. | ||
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Dave Brett. | |
| John Stewart... | ||
| And John Stewart is not his name, but John Stewart mocks, openly mocks Christ and mocks God, right? | ||
| In this discussion of President Trump. | ||
| Is President Trump, you're my theologian here. | ||
| Is President Trump the instrument of divine providence, the instrument of divine of God's will, sir? | ||
| Yeah, yes. | ||
| And uh, you know, as Charlie Kirk taught us, right? | ||
| What Charlie did that was so great, you know, he was mocked, Christ was mocked. | ||
| John Stewart is uh a comedian. | ||
| Uh the country's starting to get serious right now. | ||
| And so if you go to the Bible, right, there's different spheres. | ||
| Trump, President Trump is clearly providential. | ||
| He's not a priest, right? | ||
| There's different spheres, uh, and there's some complexity in understanding the Christian system, but Romans 13 is the classic text. | ||
| I mean, uh, for the one in authority is God's servant for your good. | ||
| But if you do wrong, be afraid. | ||
| For rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. | ||
| They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. | ||
| Uh the left is freaking out because President Trump uh not only brought renewed energy to the Government to that sphere and to justice and to arresting the wrongdoers, but he's also brought tremendous strength and courage, uh, and it's contagious on the spiritual front. | ||
| Uh, you know, Christ suffered on on the cross for all of us. | ||
| And uh, you know, if you haven't ever pictured that, that he took on the wrath for the entire world's sins of all times. | ||
| Just picture the wrath of God going into one man. | ||
| Uh, and if that doesn't convict you uh and make you feel thankful to God, he suffered so that we can be free. | ||
| And now this country, we live at the absolute pinnacle of freedom. | ||
| We've bestowed rights on everyone. | ||
| Uh we have ultimate freedom. | ||
| We have the highest form of constitutional government you could ever imagine. | ||
| But now it's getting tricky because we've extended maybe too many rights without corresponding responsibilities uh in our system. | ||
| And so a lot of people are taking advantage of this. | ||
| Pritzker is threatening to go after the law itself, right? | ||
| God has given the law. | ||
| Pritzker's threatening to go after the law, and it's gonna be a show of force and of constitutional governance. | ||
| The president under his Article 2 Powers clearly has the power uh to enforce the law of the land. | ||
| That's what he's doing, right? | ||
| And the left gets away, and I I think they're running out of time, as Charlie Kirk uh showed us. | ||
| Bible sales, by the way, are up 36% fueled by the the death of Charlie Kirk, another martyr before Christ. | ||
| Hang on, hang on. | ||
| It's not the death, it's not the death, it's an assassination. | ||
| He's a Christian, he's a Christian martyr, it's assassination. | ||
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So keep continue on. | |
| Go ahead, continue on. | ||
| Yeah, well, the the main point, and I think the serious of this moment, right? | ||
| Uh Stewart's just mocking Jesus Christ, uh juxtaposing humor. | ||
| Uh it that that's some dangerous ground, right? | ||
| When you talk about the wrath of God, etc. | ||
| And then he mocks all the all the Christians who are trying to make great statements about what President Trump means in their lives. | ||
| Uh, but this moment in time, the left, right? | ||
| The left cannot offer up an alternative worldview. | ||
| And I think that is kind of a key as to what's going on. | ||
| They've built up K-12, higher ed, and their philosophical system is called deconstruction. | ||
| That comes straight out of Karl Marx, right? | ||
| The permanent revolution of destroying all of our loves. | ||
| It's the great Catholic uh R. R. Reno has wrote, Return of the Strong Gods. | ||
| The left is tearing down all of our loves, the love of God. | ||
| They're clearly they've destroyed God and taken him out of the schools. | ||
| They're winning. | ||
| Uh the love of our country, nationalism is now on the rise. | ||
| Charlie Kirk combined both uh the spirituality of the Christian system along with the constitutional republic we live in uh to his service. | ||
| And then the family has been torn to shreds, but there is a rebirth, and you can feel it coming. | ||
| There's a rebirth of the loves, and it's the return of the strong gods, and we better make sure we're serving the right God. | ||
| Uh, can you hang on for a second, Dave Bret? | ||
| Uh we're gonna go to we're gonna go to short commercial break, Dave Bretra and Shuck in with me. | ||
| We're gonna continue to drill down on this because they're raising the stakes. | ||
| You see Jim Vanderhey over Axios trying to try to cut a path for him. | ||
| Uh they're raising the stakes. | ||
| The left is devolving into a morass of anarchy, chaos, and violence. | ||
| Because for decades they've depended upon illegal alien invaders to be the basic substrate of their party, and President Trump is out of that. | ||
| That's why we need to triple down. | ||
| There's a bunch of Christian preachers saying, hey, our our uh, you know, evangelists, our our congregations are afraid of coming here. | ||
| But dude, if they're afraid to come because of uh because Ice I'm sorry about that. | ||
| They all have to leave. | ||
| And the Christian evangelicals who sometimes are the first to be one, there's no whining in the war room, folks. | ||
| If they're not coming to church because of that, it's because they're illegal alien invader. | ||
| And it's great that they found the word of God, but they're gonna have to live, you know, live that life of the lived Christianity back in their home country. | ||
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Short break of Keith next, Brad Around. | |
| Use your host. | ||
| Stephen K. Ban. | ||
| Stephen K. Ban. | ||
| Uh, This is what's so important about signing and finally getting serious about the uh anti-terrorism of Antifa to get down not the foot soldiers. | ||
| It's just like in the No Kings crowd. | ||
| And they're bragging, it was so nonviolent. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
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We're great as not nonviolent. | |
| Good. | ||
| Good on you. | ||
| But it's a stiff. | ||
| It's got no momentum. | ||
| It's got no heat. | ||
| It doesn't have the thing that you can collect to uh to actually win to political power. | ||
| What do you mean at 3.5% you're gonna do what? | ||
| Thwart how you gonna thwart it? | ||
| Tell me how you're gonna take the house back, Rachel. | ||
| And Rachel's pass uh punched out, they know that. | ||
| She's taking 20 million a year for one night a week. | ||
| 20 million bucks a year for one night a week. | ||
| And she doesn't have her fastball anymore. | ||
| I've said forever, she's the brains of the operation. | ||
| There's no she spent 27 minutes, I think last night, going through state by state of this ridiculous no-energy, a bunch of uh PBS watchers uh sitting around the same whining and griping they always do, these liberals, right? | ||
| Progressives, because it's never good enough. | ||
| They got a frictionless life, basically a frictionless life, and all they do is bitch and moan about everything. | ||
| There's a great piece in the free beacon of the MSNBC event, the live event they had, where they think rolling out Martin Sheen is like gonna grab because this is the fantasy, they go back to Martin Sheen and you know the constitutional lawyer and the white Obama, he's gonna solve all the problems, right? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Because you're part of the problem. | ||
| You support the oligarchs. | ||
| You say you don't, but hey, then why do you tax them when you first couple of months of Biden's illegitimate regime? | ||
| You had the House, you had the Senate, you had the presidency. | ||
| Where's my tax on the billionaires? | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| Where? | ||
| Where to go? | ||
| Didn't go anywhere, didn't even go to committee. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because you're owned by the billionaires. | ||
| And this is why this is all uh, you know, it's equivalent to the Koch's doing some stuff in the Tea Party. | ||
| That's all this no uh no kings, no kings. | ||
| No kings is eventually about, and there are gonna be investigations already at Treasury, already at the IRS, to get in back of who finances all this. | ||
| Where's the foreign money? | ||
| Let's out the billionaires to finance this. | ||
| Let's just get down to it. | ||
| And that's gonna scare a bunch of them off. | ||
| And you're gonna have the devolution of the Democratic Party, understanding they can't win national elections. | ||
| With no illegal aliens gone, they have no muscle. | ||
| They're gone. | ||
| They're not gonna be able to win the house on a national basis, not gonna be able to take back over the Senate. | ||
| The Electoral College is permanently shifting our way in 2030. | ||
| Now I say permanently, we have to deliver on what we're saying. | ||
| We got to have to deliver in the present. | ||
| I think you're gonna see a big pivot back to domestic issues quite shortly. | ||
| He's trying to solve he's trying to solve these wars and these problems with China, that kind of war there, as a domestic concern, so we don't get sucked into more 20-year wars. | ||
| This is why the CIA director should come forward right now to the American people and tell about the gun-decked uh intelligence that you told the president of the United States that almost sucked us in to a to a land war in uh in in Persia. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We have to do that. | ||
| But this is why this is such a this is the battle right here. | ||
| This is the fight, and they got no juice, no energy, no urgency, no, and they're trying to make they're trying to make this case. | ||
| Now it's getting bigger every time it started at two million, went to five million, now it's seven million. | ||
| There was not seven million people. | ||
| And it's not seven million people that matter. | ||
| What I mean by that, the people like in the the uh the war in posse that will get out into the trenches and get it done. | ||
| Those people just want to sit at home and watch PBS and old reruns of West Wing and bitch and moan about Trump. | ||
| That's what they want to do. | ||
| I've got now, let's go ahead. | ||
| We have a cold open. | ||
| I got the James O'Keefe here. | ||
| Quite interesting. | ||
| Let's go ahead and let's go ahead and play the open, and we'll bring James in. | ||
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So ATI would 20% and the subcontractor would be about 80%. | |
| 80% of the share that they do all the work. | ||
| No, yeah. | ||
| So we we do about 20% of the work. | ||
| 20%. | ||
| These government contractors like ATI taking advantage of their special minority owned status. | ||
| And I tell you, pass throughs are a great thing as well. | ||
| So a lot of our subcontractors bidded contracts that were uh perfect in their industry. | ||
| But because they weren't Native American, they wouldn't win it. | ||
| So we won it for them. | ||
| They became our staff. | ||
| And it's an automatic win because you're Native American status. | ||
| A lot of people don't know that. | ||
| I don't think anybody knows that. | ||
| And keep it that way. | ||
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That's right. | |
| That's exactly taking the money in, subcontracting much of the work out. | ||
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I sit back, collect my percentage, and they do the work. | |
| Correct. | ||
| Yeah, they're doing this to work. | ||
| Get the contracts, get the money, act as a pass through, and it's the taxpayer who gets screwed over. | ||
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Is there some rules or something that we were telling you about if you have to report 51%? | |
| 51% on paper. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| As long as it's on paper. | ||
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As long as it's on paper. | |
| 51%. | ||
| We did the guy. | ||
| And remember, there's no competition. | ||
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Because you're Native American. | |
| That's the best secret. | ||
| It is indeed. | ||
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It is. | |
| It is. | ||
| Here's the pass throughs. | ||
| There you go. | ||
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How about that? | |
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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I just want the bad boys, bad boys I just want the bad boys, bad boys, bad boys Let me so hold it. | |
| I got I got James O'Keefe as the narrator. | ||
| James, I don't know if this is back to your acorn days. | ||
| Now you're at the front line of investigations. | ||
| Was that you or Willy Wonka in the uh in the in the meetings? | ||
| I mean, and they actually they didn't see through your disguise, sir. | ||
| Hey, Steve. | ||
| Yeah, this is this is kind of akin to the acorn pimp hooker thing from 16 years ago. | ||
| I mean, I I just put on a ridiculous disguise, but um it's the question am I really good at my job, or are these people just that systemically corrupt? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you is this is not fake. | ||
| This is real, this is an actual subcontractor who gets hundreds of millions of dollars from the federal government that we busted, and this is a huge, huge scam. | ||
| This 8A uh 8A program designed to help quote socially and economically disadvantaged small businesses. | ||
| Steve, it's a it's a billion, hundred billion dollar scam that we've busted, and now we have the head of the SBA as of last night launching an investigation. | ||
| Hopefully, this gets reformed. | ||
| Well, we know a bunch of guys for the uh over the uh SBA, but here's the question I've got. | ||
| It's it's stunning, and this is why you gotta watch the entire video. | ||
| Dames actually in and they're having meetings, and he's you know, he's he's Willy Wonka. | ||
| But this is a huge program. | ||
| How was this program not gutted? | ||
| We just had a two trillion dollar 1.8 trillion dollar deficit. | ||
| We're looking at a two trillion dollar deficit. | ||
| Um, the deconstruction administrator state, I thought that this was low-hanging fruit. | ||
| How did we get to USAID and these others and miss this? | ||
| This program is massive, and you just saw right there, it's both corrupt and incompetent, right? | ||
| It's not even doing whether to do so. | ||
| How did this how did this miss the acts of Russ vote? | ||
| Well, I'm not sure that it it did. | ||
| I mean, this just broke yesterday afternoon, yesterday evening, and we've got another one coming out tomorrow. | ||
| Another employee in one of these firms. | ||
| We're gonna I'm gonna keep I'm gonna bring down the whole disease temporal, Steve Bannon. | ||
| I've been working on this story for nine months. | ||
| I've got people, I've got multiple videos inside these firms, and you know, my understanding is Russ is aware of it. | ||
| But to answer your question, is why hasn't it been taken down? | ||
| It's because everyone's making money off this. | ||
| Everyone. | ||
| And it seems like every everyone, I mean, I've gotten a hundred messages overnight. | ||
| I stay up all night reading all these messages. | ||
| Everybody is making money off of this 8A small business minority subcontracting scheme. | ||
| The entire system is basically built on a facade. | ||
| And um, so you basically have to tear it, tear it down brick by brick because the whole thing would collapse. | ||
| If this is five percent, Steve, of the federal deficit, two billion dollars. | ||
| This is a hundred billion through these fraudulent eight a schemes. | ||
| Walk me through. | ||
| You said everybody's making money. | ||
| Uh, and this, as you know, in this town, that's what drives things. | ||
| Well, Just walk me through that for a second. | ||
| Well, this is the goal of the this 8A program is to assist small disadvantaged businesses through business development. | ||
| And you have to sub out the work to an organization. | ||
| And you're supposed to do more than 51% of the work if you're subbing the work out to a subcontractor. | ||
| What actually happens is the these primes are doing no work. | ||
| And it's just a pass-through scheme. | ||
| And then they take a share of the funds. | ||
| So a lot of this happens everywhere. | ||
| I've gotten messages from military contractors, from construction contractors. | ||
| They and these people and these eight A firms aren't even minority owned. | ||
| This is a super eight A, so it's supposed to supposedly Native American owned. | ||
| But it's actually the CEO is actually a white guy named named Fermage Crutchfield. | ||
| So these schemes are happening on a massive level. | ||
| They're in well intended. | ||
| They're supposed to help quote unquote disadvantaged groups, but like most DEI programs, the road to hell is paid with good intentions. | ||
| Hold it, but hang on. | ||
| There's supposed to be minority run organizations. | ||
| How do you have a white guy as the head guy? | ||
| That's a great question. | ||
| But let me ask you an even deeper question. | ||
| How the hell does that individual who's the director of contracts, who's worked whose father and mother worked for the FBI? | ||
| How does she not know that I'm James O'Keefe? | ||
| So these are these are questions so I mean, I mean, it's incompetent, it's corrupt, it's a it's a it's a joke, is what it is. | ||
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And I and I think go ahead. | |
| Well, now in your nine-month investigation, how much how much did you go? | ||
| Because this is like back to your original thing when Andrew Breitbart was so blown away about when you got an acorn or so many other things. | ||
| You would go in and be at the tip of the spear. | ||
| When you put out these other videos, were you an active participant in the investigation? | ||
| Like we saw you here in your Willy Wonka outfit uh throughout the investigation. | ||
| Uh yeah, I mean, we had to set up this was not a honeypot, uh, this is not a dating fit app. | ||
| This was we had to set up a fake website, pose as headhunters, and uh with our own 8A uh business. | ||
| Um, this particular this is a very sophisticated investigation. | ||
| This was not something that was done overnight. | ||
| This individual apparently had a side hustle, some type of catering company she did on weekends. | ||
| So we posed as a group, an 8A group, met with her under the pretense that we were buying her catering, and then in the conversation, 10 minutes into the conversation, she admits that her subcontract company 8A firm is in is engaged in fraud. | ||
| So we had to come up with a reason to meet with her, and then we met in a in a in an Arlington, Virginia restaurant with hidden cameras. | ||
| Let me go back to what you said about these 8A firms. | ||
| Um it's a huge scam, and and it's it's happening across the country everywhere. | ||
| And I think a lot of Steve, a lot of the problems is that you take away the these programs, you take away a lot of people's money. | ||
| You take away a lot of people's mansions, a lot of people's yachts. | ||
| At the end of the day, it's about money, and it's a huge scam. | ||
| But we do have we do have news. | ||
| The head of the SBA last night, the head of the SBA putting out a statement that the SBA has launched an investigation into this company, and they're launching a conducting a full review of the 8A program designed to help these these DEI uh uh and and in February the SBA took immediate action to slash contracting. | ||
| So we hope that Russ and Pam are watching and they actually reform the system because the time is now. | ||
| Um can you hang on one second? | ||
| Uh I just I want to ask you a couple questions about the investigation, but particularly here's what I'm gonna do. | ||
| Your your stuff has been so great recently. | ||
| I always see the left immediately come out and trying to say, oh no, Keith's a bad guy, or this is all doctored and the footage is cut. | ||
| So I want to get to we have the SBA starting a formal investigation. | ||
| I want to get to how the left is going to try to chop bock you so we can't get a full and deep investigation and get results. | ||
| It's a hundred billion dollar program that's got to go. | ||
| Um, because I'm not sure you can even reform this. | ||
| Hang on for a second, old Keith. | ||
| Dave Bratt's with me, uh writing shotgun. | ||
| We're gonna take a short commercial break. | ||
| Gold is on a Tear, of course, it's gonna go up and down around when it sets a new a new floor, right? | ||
| Um you have to understand why this is happening. | ||
| It's not the price, it's the process. | ||
| Birchgold.com, promo code Bannon, end of the dollar empire. | ||
| Get it, read it, study it, then talk to Philip Patrick and team at Birch Gold. | ||
| We started this process. | ||
| I don't know, when gold was 1100 bucks, over 4400 the other day, backed off a little bit. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen Kack. | |
| Okay, uh, the economists. | ||
| I'll I'll be doing uh there'll be an interview with myself and the senior team at the economist on Thursday. | ||
| Uh we'll make sure we push it out. | ||
| A lot of it's dealing with this new edition of the economists, a special report. | ||
| The coming debt emergency. | ||
| Have you ever heard this anywhere before, folks? | ||
| I don't know, maybe four years ago, five years ago in the war room. | ||
| The economists finally catching up, and it's quite grim, folks. | ||
| 335 or 340 trillion dollars global debt and the margin calls coming, and this thing is grim. | ||
| We're gonna get into it, but that deficit of 1.8 trillion because we have not cut federal spending like we have to cut it. | ||
| We have a hundred billion dollar program. | ||
| James O'Keefe is getting this thing now. | ||
| O'Keefe here's the question. | ||
| The left is gonna be all over you because this is real money to them, right? | ||
| That hundred billion dollars is going back to all these community organizations, just like you took down acorn and brother, they tried to destroy you at that time. | ||
| So walking because now it's these other ones you talk putting in jail. | ||
| The other ones are big farmers, bad enough, but now you're coming after the mother's milk of the revolutionary left. | ||
| So tell me what I can anticipate. | ||
| SBA start a formal investigation of just your first one, you got more to come. | ||
| What's gonna happen to James O'Keefe? | ||
| Well, first of all, Steve, I think I think they've run out of arrows. | ||
| They've sued me 50 times, they put me in jail, they put me on house arrest for three years. | ||
| Um the FBI raided me. | ||
| Uh and I was fired from the company I founded. | ||
| So I don't I mean, I don't know what their next move is. | ||
| I mean, I I I I hesitate to say what I think their next move is, but I actually I actually have faith this time, Bannon, because um I don't think this is a left or right issue. | ||
| I think this is about money. | ||
| And I don't see it. | ||
| I mean, I I suppose because it's 8A uh subcontractors, the program is kind of a DEI thing. | ||
| It's well intentioned. | ||
| It's it's supposed to help minority groups and small businesses, but the small businesses sub out the work to accenture in these large firms that so and the small businesses and the eight a groups do zero work. | ||
| It's a federal crime to do less than 51% of the work, and they're on tape bragging about it. | ||
| The woman is giving specific data, specific numbers. | ||
| So I don't I don't I I honestly have no idea. | ||
| Uh but what I will say, and what what has to happen is cash and Pam and Russ, I know that they have this, and I and they need to take action. | ||
| They're in charge. | ||
| Yes, there's no excuse. | ||
| We don't, I think that the latest I heard is they're waiting for the New York Times to report to stop waiting for the New York Times. | ||
| Do your job. | ||
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I mean this sincerely. | |
| Uh, brother, I'm telling you, as we told Charlie and other people, you are a big time target. | ||
| They tried to put you in prison, they had the FBI kick down your door, they did everything to harass you. | ||
| A house arrest for three years. | ||
| People don't even know that. | ||
| He was a house arrest for three years. | ||
| They the company you you founded was so great, uh, got you fired from that, took it from you. | ||
| Uh, you're high on their list, and you better you better not just lawyer up, you better security up. | ||
| Uh O'Keefe, where do we get all this? | ||
| Because lawsuit go ahead. | ||
| Lawsuit, I would say lawsuits is probably their uh probably their play. | ||
| Uh they're gonna try to use litigation to bankrupt me. | ||
| That would be the most uh uh obvious response here. | ||
| Yeah, but you're you're more dangerous to them than that. | ||
| They'll they'll try that. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| But you're a warrior, and this program, brother, is how this like the NGOs, this is how they fund the radical left. | ||
| This is when you went after Acorn. | ||
| And and knowing now, knowing now what they knew if they knew then, if they knew then what they know now, trust me. | ||
| You're you're you're you're a warrior and you don't back down and you keep coming up with one great hit after the other. | ||
| So it's pretty stunning. | ||
| Where do people go to O'Keefe Media Group to get this, sir? | ||
| O'Keefe Media Group and Citizen Journalism Foundation. | ||
| We are tax deductible now. | ||
| So if you're watching this program and you support this journalism, donate to us. | ||
| We have another one coming out on Wednesday, another another organization getting money from the SBA, getting money from these Super 88 contracts, and admitting to wire fraud and pass throughs. | ||
| This is going to come out Wednesday. | ||
| We have another one coming out Thursday. | ||
| We're going to keep busting these guys. | ||
| We want people to get arrested. | ||
| We want justice. | ||
| And we're not going to stop until we get it. | ||
| And stay tuned for Wednesday and Steve. | ||
| I hope to talk to you then. | ||
| I think we will have you on Wednesday and Thursday, sir, already pre-booked. | ||
| Thank you, James O'Keefe. | ||
| You're a hero and a warrior. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| People didn't know they had they had O'Keefe on house arrest. | ||
| I think we're in the ankle thing for three years. | ||
| Remember O'Keefe's one of these guys that kept doing it. | ||
| If we didn't come back, O'Keefe be in prison right now. | ||
| That's how they much they want to get O'Keefe. | ||
| Brad, I know you got to bounce. | ||
| I'm going to have you back on. | ||
| I'll talk to you this afternoon or tomorrow. | ||
| We'll talk more about the spiritual side of this. | ||
| But I got to ask you, you were in Congress. | ||
| How in the hell is this happen? | ||
| This is one of the things that's supposed to be gutting. | ||
| Now we have a problem. | ||
| It has to be O'Keefe going in undercover and get the SBA guys on top of it and now get cash or Dan Bongino or Pam or Russ or somebody's attention. | ||
| But this is not, it's not there. | ||
| So this is why is Congress on this? | ||
| Why is this in the appropriations process not come out and say, no, we're not doing this anymore, brother? | ||
| Yeah, well, you see, Trump, Trump is carrying the whole load. | ||
| Congress, you know, Russ vote a couple years back, had a $1.5 trillion cut per year. | ||
| Congress put in a $1.5 trillion cut over 10 years and couldn't get it to happen. | ||
| There's money laundering going all over the place, right? | ||
| There's $300 billion going over to Ukraine. | ||
| No audit of that one. | ||
| When I was in Congress and ask your Congressman, everybody out there across the country, ask them what you're doing on foreign policy. | ||
| They wouldn't let us discuss foreign policy. | ||
| I was in four years. | ||
| They never had one foreign policy discussion in conference ever. | ||
| The CIA has run 50 coup d'etats over the past 50 years. | ||
| There was no discussion of the role of the CIA, our intelligence organizations. | ||
| It's kind of keep it small, keep it all, right? | ||
| The power is kept in what I used to call the giant Excel spreadsheet in the sky, right? | ||
| That's the donor spreadsheet. | ||
| And right now, the power from the left, the dark money, Zero Hedge had an incredible piece a couple days ago on the billionaire dark money flooding into the governors, flooding it. | ||
| Yes, everybody follow that, and uh I'll I'll jump back on and we'll cover that another day. | ||
| Social media, you're a warrior, sir. | ||
| Yep, Brad Economics, get her an X, and I'll be posting a lot. | ||
| We just had a very successful CEO summit at Liberty, and uh thank you guys for helping us cover that. | ||
| I I want to get I want to get some footage from that and have you come and explain it. | ||
| Very successful. | ||
| We need to do we need to do more of that. | ||
| Uh Brad, you're amazing. | ||
| Thank you so much, sir. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Uh Rickards, if you like the geopolitics and capital markets, we're getting a lot into that in the second hour. | ||
| Um Jim Rickards, Rickards Warroom.com. | ||
| We have a landing page. | ||
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| You get access to his newsletter, Strategic Intelligence, which is read by like the players of the world, the Financial Times of London, The Economist Records Newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. | ||
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| Read that. | ||
| Maybe understand why gold's blowing through 4,400. | ||
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