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Oct. 21, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4865: The Truth Behind Mass Deportations
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mark mitchell
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stan wojewodzki
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steve bannon
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donald j trump
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hunter dunn
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lisa rubin
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mike lindell
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erez reuveni
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jake tapper
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katy tur
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nicolle wallace
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scott pelley
00:39
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katy tur
Breaking news out of Portland, the Ninth Circuit breaking news about Portland, I should say.
The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has overturned Judge Emmergett's order blocking the federalization of the National Guard, which means President Trump can deploy the National Guard into Portland, Oregon.
That is a big, big big deal.
lisa rubin
It is a big deal.
And I want to just correct one thing and then explain why functional it is the same.
This is a stay of Judge Imagut's uh opinion.
And that's why it reached the Ninth Circuit as soon as it did, because this is an emergency motion to essentially pause her order.
But as a functional matter, you are absolutely correct.
It has the function of overturning her order and thereby allowing the president to send the National Guard back onto the streets of Portland.
And Katie, I want to read if I can, just from a little bit of the beginning of this 93-page opinion.
It says after considering the record, and by the record they mean all the factual evidence at this preliminary stage, we conclude that it is likely that the president lawfully exercised his statutory authority under 10 USC Section 12406.
That's the statute we've been referring to as Title 10 when we have conversations about the National Guard deployments, which authorizes the federalization of the National Guard when the President is unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States.
And this is the important part.
The evidence the president relied on reflects, quote, a colorable assessment of the facts and law within a range of honest judgment.
We thus conclude that defendants are likely to succeed on the merits of their appeal, basically saying that when and if a court considers all of the record in this matter is tried, and it gets back to an appellate court through an ordinary process where they have full briefing and full evidence that they still think Donald Trump is likely to prevail there because he has the discretion to determine as the president within a range of honest judgment when it is reasonable systems.
donald j trump
So we're going to be here to talk about lots of lots of different things, and uh we might take a few questions uh before, but we are discussing uh critical minerals and rare earths, and we're gonna be signing an agreement that's been negotiated over a period of four or five months.
And it was set a good timing that we got it done just in time for the visit.
And we work together very much on rare earths, critical minerals, and lots of other things.
And we've had a very good relationship.
We've been working under that for quite a while.
Uh in about a year from now, we'll have so much critical mineral and rare earths that you won't know what to do with them.
They'll be worth about two dollars.
But uh, in the meantime, we're working uh with Australia and and other countries.
They're working with us too.
Uh, but other countries also on that.
But we're really working on uh anything having to do with military, military protection, uh, military uh ships, vehicles, uh guns, ammunition, everything, the whole thing.
We've been long-term, long-time allies, and uh I would say there's never been anybody better.
We fought wars together.
Uh we we never had any doubts, and uh it's it's a great honor to have you as my friend.
It's a great honor to have you in the United States of America.
hunter dunn
We're seeing a peaceful opposition against Trump, the likes that the world, the likes that our country hasn't seen in a long time, and it's infuriating him.
He's threatening to potentially deploy the National Guard into San Francisco, which is why things like No Kings are so important, because this isn't a sprint, it's a marathon.
And getting people on the ground gets people connected with those community networks, which gives them the ability to resist against Trump's regime every single day.
And more importantly, it gives people the courage to stand up.
There was a poll that went out that four of five U.S. troops understand their duty to disobey illegal orders.
Using the military to crush peaceful dissent, using the National Guard to crush peaceful dissent is illegal.
It's fascist.
It's what Trump wants to do, it's what he already did in LA.
And it's what he's trying to do in Chicago and Portland in Memphis and in DC, and what he's going to try to do in San Francisco.
And things like No Kings gives both elected officials and potentially pillars of this regime, people like the military, people like civil service employees, the courage to stand up to risk their own jobs and livelihoods because they know that we, the people are backing them, and that together we can stop this regime before it harms and destroys our entire country.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's one time I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
Monday, 20 October, year of our Lord, 2025, another historic day.
By the way, if they at the last speaker, if he's saying that No Kings is going to give back up to pillars of the regime to like work against President Trump, the military, or the just what?
No Kings was an epic fail.
Now they're breaking it down to a couple of hundred thousand people showed up in New York and Chicago and places like that where you can have any kind of protest and get a couple hundred thousand to show up.
It's no seven million.
That's a joke.
No, everybody knows that.
It's just a bunch of old white, uh, you know, a bunch of old white liberals, teachers, you know, college professors, other irrelevant people, wandering around, wandering around.
If that's what you're counting on, George Soros' money not well spent, should have taken out in a barrel out into the front yard and just burned it.
Well, I don't think that's going to give anybody any.
Oh, I feel so No Kings was so massive.
I, you know, I think I can go and uh countermand the commander in chief's orders.
Yeah, I don't think that's gonna be happening.
I don't think you see a lot of that.
If that's what you're hoping for, epic fail.
unidentified
Also the court courts, yeah, go to Portland.
steve bannon
And you heard the big, these are the same people that said, oh, you know, this is gonna be backed up by the appellate court, this is gonna be backed up all the way to Supreme Court, and now they're running around for all the reasons that, oh, yeah, well, you know, really they're just trying to get through this, and no.
President Trump's got full power.
Article, you heard this one before?
Article two power.
In fact, can we pull?
I think I got it too.
It's up on Getter.
Maria Barteroma yesterday.
President Trump used my famous my best phrase, the best phrase ever.
He goes, hey, Maria, you do know that I'm the chief law enforcement officer of the United States government.
Ba-boom.
Ba-boom.
Do you got that one?
We can?
Can you go and play that?
Man, what a way to start this.
Production team, production team back in their and they're in their rocking.
Let's go ahead and hear uh the president from Maria Barteroma.
donald j trump
I'm the chief law enforcement officer of the United States.
You know that, right?
A lot of people say, oh, he's the president.
He should no.
I'm the chief law enforcement.
I'm allowed to be involved in it, but I haven't chosen to.
unidentified
Boom.
steve bannon
Tonight, Rachel Maddow, Germany night, suck on that girl.
Yo, that's his article to power, and he's using his article two power.
And the appellate court just backed him up.
San Francisco, Portland.
Let's roll.
Let's let's stop the invasion and repel the invaders, and let's lock up in a federal prison.
Anybody tries to get in your way, including people out there trying to dox ice officers or the military or any of it.
It's time to stop playing games with these people.
President's got this great phrase, no games, no games.
When he says that, you know he's serious.
That something's going on in negotiation or some event or activity that he's just tired of it.
No games.
Kinda, I think what he told Kushner and Whitkoff when he put them on the plane and said, I want to deal and tell Netanyahu, no games.
No more games, no games.
The reason Marco wasn't on the plane with him was his disaster showing, as we highlighted a couple of weeks before.
It's time, of course, Netanyahu's in the times of Israel today saying Trump did not order me.
Trump did not force me into sign this.
Okay, BB, good try.
Uh let Tel Aviv Levin push that one on on the uh on the uh on his radio show.
Let him push that one.
You weren't forced.
You did it willingly because all of your object I forgot, all your objectives in the Gaza War were met.
Unreal.
Historic today in the in the cabinet room with the Prime Minister of Australia.
Stan, you're with me.
And Stan, I'm gonna let you take a crack.
It's too late on a Monday.
We've been too busy here in the worm.
I'm gonna let you take a cracker your last name.
unidentified
It's Stan Royvatsky.
stan wojewodzki
And it's good to be back.
So thanks for having me again on the show.
steve bannon
So listen, the reason I love having you on, you're you're you're you're you're my quiet weapon over there.
You did nothing but called shots.
You called the shot on the rare earth, and you called the shot on the submarines.
Let's start with the why was this so important a meeting?
And and and look, the president we can be open about this.
He hadn't exactly been loving up on the Australian Prime Minister, had Kevin Rudd in there.
And we've had Rudd, uh we've got Rudd's book, who we love, the book on the Chinese Communist Party did a great job on that.
But he and Rudd have had disagreements, and he had Rudd in there today and said, Where's that other prime minister?
The one says, you know, we've said bad things about each other.
He had Rudd in there.
Uh he had the current prime minister, which they've never been particularly close.
Today they were like brothers in arms.
I've never seen such a positive meeting, a positive by lat.
He also didn't do in the OVA.
I think they did it in the cabinet room, so you can get more media in there.
Um why was this so important to get the sign right at the top?
That's how important it was for Trump.
They walk in, they signed the they signed this deal right at the top on um on rare earth, because uh Besson is in route to go meet with the Chinese finance minister, and Trump said at this meeting, which I don't know, the Beijing has not verified it, but President Trump said he's meeting with Xi.
Why was the rare earth such a big deal, sir?
stan wojewodzki
I mean, uh, first of all, I think it's an it was a very good meeting.
It's definitely a win for Australia.
It took about 270 days since Prime Minister Albanese was uh uh re-elected, and that's the longest, I think, in the last 10 or 15 years that the the two heads of states uh took to meet uh on the heels of a victory.
So that left the door open for a lot of pundits and and and criticism that perhaps PM Albanese might not have the ear of President Trump.
Perhaps the AUKUS submarine deal might be in, you know, in troubled waters.
And obviously, today uh uh for you and I, uh, folks like us who've been paying keen attention over the past year on where this alliance might go.
It was a confirmation that uh the U.S. remains a steadfast partner in such an important uh uh um naval alliance in such a critical part of the world, that is the Indo-Pacific.
Additionally, and I think you're probably one of uh those that have covered the most uh some of the moves on the part of China and the CCP to play hardball in the rare earth space to try and uh a corner the United States by limiting exports of anything that has a remotely 0.1 percent of uh uh critical minerals or rare earth.
Uh and that means the entire technology and information industry uh across all sectors, strategic uh sectors that is.
And so um this uh this technology prosperity deal that was signed right off the bat in the cabinet room between the two uh administrations.
Uh first reaffirms AUKUS, but also uh paves the way for a long-term strategic partnership and sourcing critical minerals and rare earth.
And it's um, you know, it's a chess move on on China's uh attempt at pressuring uh the US and its partners along uh the rare earth uh uh uh route, Which is so critical to our national security.
So to the pundits back in Australia, which have had 270 days to undermine and criticize both President Trump from far, but also at home, their prime minister, that the Trump administration was in retreat and could not be relied upon.
I think it's a strong message to our allies and our adversaries in the region that have doubted that the US uh would stick to its end of the bargain.
It's also a very strong message.
It reaffirms uh and reassures our allies, and it gives predictability, uh, if I want to be politically correct to our adversaries.
Uh it uh projects, you know, uh continued naval supremacy and the notion that uh the US remains the world's leading naval force augmented now with Australia and the UK and this you know generational partnership that we've come to know as AUKUS.
Um deterrence is in fact the name of the game.
I mentioned it in my last conversation with you.
Peace through strength is a doctrine, and stealth remains the most important element of both our nuclear triad and deterrence.
steve bannon
Stan, hang on for one second.
I'm gonna hold you over to the next point.
An ally, not a protectorate, an ally steps up and partners with the United States today at the White House.
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donald j trump
And you cover it as well as anybody that's ever covered this subject.
You know, it's a very complex subject.
But China has ripped us off from day one.
And you know, Richard Nixon uh he allowed he allowed this to happen.
You know, he was the one he opened China, and I said, Is that good or bad?
You tell me he unleashed it.
And we have a very strong adversary, and they only respect strike.
steve bannon
Wow.
President Trump give me a little real politique.
Stan.
I would just want to back up for one second, and this is why I'd love your call, Shot, because this was very controversial for the last couple of years, and a lot of guys like Stan and myself and others that were huge advocates of this.
Um not just media in Australia, but uh also in the region and others said that day's over.
Trump's, you know, uh Trump's an isolationist.
The CCP has intimidated the Australian people too much.
They got called out.
It was all proven wrong.
Just give me a minute of why this submarine deal is so important for the to show the strength of the alliance, really, Australia, the United States, and Great Britain, to stand up to the Chinese Communist Party and to show the people in the region that are not Australians, not English or not Americans, that we're not messing around here, sir.
unidentified
Sure.
stan wojewodzki
Thank you again.
I think as we discussed on the 250-year anniversary of the U.S. Navy, at any given time on any given day, you have six, seven, eight nations and island nations in the Indo-Pacific that are being challenged in their exclusive economic zones in their territorial waters uh by an adversary, uh the People's Liberation uh Navy or its maritime militia.
And um the Indo-Pacific has become ground zero of global competition.
Uh naval uh naval uh warfare capacity and and and and projection remains the the the realm of global powers.
Uh Australia uh sits in the middle of this body of water.
It is uh a critical partner, and this uh uh generational partnership that was signed under a previous administration, and that uh was uh uh reviewed under President Trump.
Um signals to our partners and our allies in the region that uh they're not alone in standing up to some of the bullying that the maritime militia or the People's Liberation Navy uh exerts on their uh fisheries, on their territorial waters, on their territorial claims.
And um and therefore it was of the utmost importance once AUKUS was signed, not to pull back from it because both allies and adversaries have already computed and incorporated that into their war games.
And therefore, had we pulled out or had anything happened to this alliance, it would leave a massive vacuum, which would be immediately filled by our adversaries.
I have to maybe state that something you must know over the last two, three days.
There's been a lot of uh noise coming out of of the CCP.
I think on October 17, the defense ministry announced that the central, the vice chair of the Central Military Commission, a member of the Politburo, and eight other senior military commenders had been expelled from the Communist Party.
And uh and the military for serious violations of party discipline.
So the lines are shifting.
It's very hard, very opaque, very hard to read what is going on behind closed doors uh uh with the party, but certainly uh um the this peace through strength and this uh uh uh reassurance of our commitments to our allies,
uh both within NATO and outside of NATO, but certainly in the in the Indo-Pacific is um is making is making the rounds and is being noticed by both our adversaries and our allies.
steve bannon
By the way, we're gonna we're gonna uh the seven o'clock six o'clock our excuse me.
We're gonna go through this even in more depth because President Trump, the Chinese Communist Party has thrown down an open, active and serious uh economic war against the United States with these uh heavy rare earths.
And President Trump, this is why it's gonna be Australia first, and next is going to get one of the Brazil.
He's fighting back and giving some ammo uh to Scott Besson.
He goes over, and President Trump announced that he's gonna meet.
We're gonna cover it all.
Also, the buried lead.
President Trump goes, in a year, we're gonna be fine.
In a year, gonna be fine.
Just take that out in your number two Prunsland and write that down.
That is uh 12 months.
That's a long time, particularly when you're when people in your product, you know, the Ford Motor Company telling we gotta shut down the lines in six weeks.
This is what the CCP is trying to do to the United States, and it's what it's trying to do to President Trump as much as he's tried to uh I think accommodate them uh in some of their struggles with their economy.
Stan, what's your social media?
You've been ahead of this, and today it was two called shots, one on the rare earth and the other on this massive submarine deal.
Uh where do people find you, sir, for your writings?
stan wojewodzki
On LinkedIn or on your show most of the time.
Uh Steve, thank you again for inviting me.
Uh, as I mentioned the last time, stealth is the name of the game, including in our advisory role.
steve bannon
We uh we uh love guys that know what they're talking about and can get our audience information and knowledge well before it happens.
Thank you, sir.
stan wojewodzki
Thank you.
Have a good night.
steve bannon
Those are the guys you want to get on.
Guys who tell you weeks and months ahead, hey, here's what's going to happen, and here's why it's gonna happen.
Very impressive.
Big day for President Trump.
Very big day.
Um in this Chinese Communist Party thing is only going to get uglier.
We're gonna break it all down uh with various people at six.
Um I've got Michael Patrick Leahy.
I gotta tell you, I've known Leahy for a long time.
He's a comrade in arms.
You gotta go pretty far in the woods to hit his tripwire.
But man, when you hit Leahy's tripwire, actions coming.
Last night on 60 Minutes, where I was obsessed with the with the Jared Kushner and Wickoff interview, which I thought was so much amazing information came out of there.
Uh, but Michael Patrick Lahay focused on another part of 60 Minutes, another interview.
Let's go ahead and play the coal open and bring in Michael Patrick Leahy.
donald j trump
I'm the chief law enforcement officer of the United States.
You know that, right?
A lot of people say, oh, he's the president.
He should no.
I'm the chief law enforcement.
I'm allowed to be involved in it, but I haven't chosen to.
nicolle wallace
And DOJ whistleblower Arez Ravenny, who was inside the Trump Justice Department, pulled back the curtain on what it looks like inside, and the Trump administration's open defiance of the courts in order to maximize mass deportations.
unidentified
Take a look.
erez reuveni
Felt like a bomb had gone off.
Here is the number three official using expletives to tell career attorneys that we may just have to consider disregarding federal court orders.
And then it really hit me.
unidentified
It's like we really did tell the courts, screw you.
erez reuveni
We really did.
Just tell the courts we don't care about your order.
You can't tell us what to do.
unidentified
That was just a real gut bunch.
scott pelley
Normally, people deported in error are returned, but instead, Ruveny says that in a phone call from a superior, he was ordered to argue against Abrego Garcia's return by telling a judge that Abrego Garcia was an MS-13 gang member and a terrorist.
erez reuveni
And I respond up to up the chain of command.
No way.
That is not correct.
That is not factually correct.
It is not legally correct.
That is that is a lie.
And I I cannot sign my name to that brief.
steve bannon
Whoa.
Michael Patrick Leahy.
Okay, here's the thing.
Barry Weiss was a very pro-Israel.
Uh she was criticized about the by the about this a lot.
She's a Zionist.
Um she allows to go on, because this is her first week as executive editor of um of CBS News.
And the first thing she did was, as Michael Patrick Leahy knows, she called the 60 Minutes crew and then said, Hey, you know, certain people have think you're biased, and they're like, What are you talking about?
It was a full meltdown, they leaked everything to the press.
She allowed the Leslie Stahl interview with Whitkoff and uh and Jared go forward, which buried Netanyahu, buried him, full stop.
Uh yet this one pops up, and Leahy, you more than any person in the United States of America is on top of the story.
Why is this story so outrageous, sir?
michael patrick leahy
Well, this is Scott Pelley in 60 Minutes and the anti-Trump propaganda there.
A throwdown, a challenge to the leadership of Barry Weiss, because the clips you played are biased, dishonest, and misleading.
Particularly that last clip uh uh of the uh res Ravenny, who was fired by the Department of Justice for not zealously defending his clients' interest, the United States government.
His claim that there was no evidence uh that uh uh Kilmar Abrego Garcia had MS-13 ties is just a flat out lie.
In fact, if you go to two immigration court judge decisions in 2019, they kept him in detention while his final uh deportation hearing was being held because the two judges concluded there was enough evidence that he was an MS-13 gang member.
Now, why didn't Ravenny present that to the court?
unidentified
He should have, he didn't.
steve bannon
This I'm gonna hold you through the break.
I'm gonna bring you back because uh some of the audience may not understand that you're the guy that broke all this story down at Tennessee with your radio show and the Tennessee Star.
You you got you went in, Leahy went in and did the pick and shovel work when all this was this is just a Maryland father.
Remember, he's just a Maryland dad.
He just some guy, a Maryland dad, you know, like a former Colts fan that's now a Ravens fan, he's just a Maryland daddy.
Nothing could be farther from the truth.
And Michael Patrick Leahy exposed it.
Now they're throwing down the pri hey, the president's the chief law enforcement officer and chief magistrate of the United States government.
So I agree with you.
We're gonna we're gonna find out what the remedy is for Michael Patrick Leahy, his own self.
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scott pelley
People deported in error are returned, but instead, Ruvene says that in a phone call from a superior, he was ordered to argue against Abrego Garcia's return by telling a judge that Abrego Garcia was an MS 13 gang member and a terrorist.
erez reuveni
And I respond.
Up to it, up to chain of command.
No way.
That is not correct.
That is not factually correct.
It is not legally correct.
That is that is a lie.
And I I cannot sign my name to that brief.
steve bannon
Okay, Leahy, we're always pressed for time, but I want you to tell the audience, because you're the guy, you're the guy that turned him from a Maryland dad to a gang member because of the research you did with the T I think Tennessee State Police Records and others.
Give me the reasons why that is inaccurate, sir.
michael patrick leahy
Uh because two uh 2019 immigration court judge rulings determined that there was enough evidence that he was an MS-13 gang member that he was not released during his deportation hearing order.
That was evidence that Ravenny should have, could have, and had a duty to present the court, but he chose not to.
He got fired because he didn't zealously represent his client.
Also, he he failed to properly point out to the court this in that uh deportation order with a withholding of removal from 2019.
The black letter of the order said you can't send them to Guatemala.
It's right there in black and white, like four times.
He didn't present that information to the court.
So that was another error on his part.
And number three, he violated attorney client privilege.
He's representing the government.
And now he's going and giving information that uh uh to the other side.
He was really representing the defendant.
That's why he got basically was uh fired by DOJ.
Also, that CBS report they failed to report that the case was brought in the wrong venue.
Those uh terrorists, those Venezuelan terrorists were in Texas.
That's where the the uh the case should have been brought.
But it was brought to Judge Bosberg in DC.
Why?
Because he hates Donald Trump, and everybody knows that.
Finally, big time.
They uh they also claimed that he they violated court order.
A court order given verbally is not a not a court order, it's got to be written.
By the time that written court order was delivered, all of those uh Venezuelan gang members had been deported to El Salvador.
steve bannon
Um what so Barry Weiss showed courage in in putting up the Netanyahu thing, which you know, she's very pro-Israel, and this buries Netanyahu, a brutal interview with uh Whitkoff and Jared Kushner.
Uh, but this somehow got under the radar scope, and you've got the facts.
You brought the receipts.
What are you requesting of Barry Weiss?
Because Barry Weiss, people should know is like in uh she's like uh Army command in uh Saigon in 1968.
She got nothing but enemy around her.
They as soon as she went and talked to the 60 Minutes people about this exact topic, you're biased uh against the truth, against the facts, and they're all up in arms, and they leaked it immediately to the immediately to the New York Times before she's even out of the room.
Uh what remedy are you looking for for for the for this poor woman from the I have a direct woman.
michael patrick leahy
I have a direct message for Barry Weiss.
I want at the Tennessee Star and individually, Michael Patrick Leahy, I want 13 minutes of unedited prime time on CBS News to rebut to rebut this completely biased and prop anti-Trump piece of propaganda.
steve bannon
That's what I want to say.
Hang on.
How about if you did that 13 minutes on 60 minutes with Scott Pelley uh interrogating you, sir?
Would you are you down for that?
michael patrick leahy
I'll take it.
As long as I can have my own camera there.
steve bannon
Exactly.
And you do your own editing.
Leahy, you're the best.
Uh this is very important.
You called him right out.
I know the president of the United States is going to love this.
Uh where they go to get you your all your information, your show, uh, the Tennessee Star, all of it, sir.
michael patrick leahy
On X, you can find me at Michael P. Leahy and uh Tennessee Star.com, Tennessee Starr.com is a website where you can get all of this great breaking news.
steve bannon
You know, Leahy, you got like 50 jobs.
You're like you're you're working 24-7, and then you went to law school at night.
You've been you've been a man on fire ever since then.
The worst thing they allow to happen is let Lahay Go to law school, sir.
Thank you.
Appreciate you.
michael patrick leahy
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Mark Mitchell.
Uh, your polling here recently has been uh so profound and so deep and talking about where the where the country is in this crisis we currently uh we're currently have.
Uh you've got something uh new and uh quite explosive tonight.
What do you got, sir?
mark mitchell
Uh I'm on covering more stuff about COVID, and we talk about how all the mainstream polsters lie by fudging the numbers by over and over again misrepresenting things.
But one of the ways that they like to lie and to shill for the establishment is by carefully deciding not to ask important questions.
And so people who follow Rasmussen reports know that we'll actually dig into it.
We'll show that Americans want to deport everybody in the United States.
Imagine that.
That's what explains Donald Trump's win.
Things like that.
Well, one of the things that every single one of them, every single one of them turned their nose up, decided not to go into was vaccine safety.
And as far as I know, in the entire industry, the only other pollster that polled at all about vaccine safety was Rich Barrish, the people's pundit.
And he told me personally, he lost clients, he had people text him, What are you doing?
You're gonna ruin your business, what's going on here?
Why are you doing this?
But fortunately for America, Rasmussen reports had been so written off by the establishment that we decided to poll on this in the fall of 2022.
And we thought, you know, this might be one of those things, it's a fringe conspiracy theory.
We'll probably find small numbers.
And the very first question we asked was whether or not people had a major or minor side effect from the vaccine.
And we broke the news on your show.
7% major side effect rate, another 31%.
It was massive.
So we've been asking about this time and time again, and every single one comes back worse and worse and worse.
We asked people if they know something.
steve bannon
Yeah, this is a don't bury the lead.
Give me the do they know something personally?
That number, I think, was even more shocking.
When we you told me down the show, I was like, What?
Give us that.
mark mitchell
Oh, I know, right.
And it's like you probably had a cold open of some weather person dropping dead on on air in front of America.
And uh 28%, 28% of Americans thought it was at least uh, you know, uh, someone agreed that they know somebody personally who died from the COVID vaccines.
unidentified
Wow.
mark mitchell
The number kept going up, and then we got a number close to half of Americans who said it's at least someone likely the vaccines are killing a significant number of Americans.
Well, just recently the numbers still been going up.
We had uh 56% of likely voters said that it was likely the vaccines are killing a significant number of uh people.
Now, that's the thing is that Donald Trump won because of accountability because of pushback.
A lot of it was because of COVID, and Americans want all these wrongs righted.
And I'll tell you, we haven't really heard a whole lot about what's going on with this stuff.
And it pisses me off so much to sit here and know well, trust in America's health industry is completely gone because of COVID.
Now, by a two to one margin, people say that they have to take their own health information into their own hands.
They can't just rely on a doctor, and you have all these doctors still sitting at the the top of this regulatory pyramid who have a revolving door to industry, who are running cover for industry, who are quite frankly siphoning trillions of dollars with sick care.
We all know it.
It's one of the reasons that our republic is going to die because we are funding massive amounts of people in a sick care system that is just basically legalized grift.
Like that's really what's going on.
There's so much corruption, and we haven't heard any really anything about it.
Well, I'm here to just stick one more uh you know, knife and the dagger of this rotted corpse, and that is nobody has pulled on the hospital treatment protocols for COVID, literally not a single person.
And we're talking about here the implications of over a million people died from COVID, most of them in the hospitals, most of them with a lot of questions about ventors and Rems Desivir and other things.
You know, we heard the stories about how you lose your license if you let anybody get treated with Iverbeck Mectin.
But without our polling, it would all be anecdotal.
It would all be super easy to sweep under the rug, and of course, they'll still try to sweep this under the rug.
So here's the two questions, and we j literally just did this.
Four 1400 Americans has somebody you know personally died from COVID-19 while being treated in a hospital.
32% of America says yes, 58% say no.
And then asked of those people, how likely is it that hospital treatment protocols for COVID-19 contributed to their deaths?
30% very likely, another 17% somewhat for a combined total of 47%, almost half.
And uh only 14% say not at all likely, only 36% say not likely.
So it's plus 11.
So it's most people, most people who have an opinion on why that person died.
It would be a majority if you remove the not shores.
And uh there's a bipartisan signal.
34% of Democrats think it's likely, but 58% of Republicans and 52% of independents to only 33% of independents say no.
So this is pretty solid.
People are like, yeah, there's reasons to question this stuff.
And what's really wild is you can even see the mama bear signal.
Women under 40 are overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly more likely to say this.
56% very likely, 30% somewhat.
And the age signal is also incredible.
Of the 65 and older, only 21% say very likely, another 14% somewhat, so that's 35.
But look at the 18 and 29s.
56%, 31% very likely.
Really stunning signal.
It's almost two to one among 18 to 29 year olds.
unidentified
Wow.
mark mitchell
So that also shows that listen, establishment, you're not going to be able to run away from the internet.
These people are asking hard questions about literally everything, about the very capitalistic system that we live in, about foreign influence, about the ways that everything's been corrupted.
And I think that we are not hitting this idea of accountability hard enough because I'm telling you, I try and stay rooted in this like sort of Zoom or online culture, more so than I think most people.
And what's being talked about isn't like, oh, isn't it great?
Republicans are giving us everything they voted for.
It's like, no, why isn't this system burning down fast enough?
That's I I think accurately captures what I see anecdotally on the internet.
steve bannon
Let me ask you, is Bobby Kennedy?
Because you know, recently, ever since they held back the 500 million in in research for big pharma, and and maybe it hasn't been pounded hard enough, but you can see he's getting started getting traction.
Is that getting is that resonating with anybody?
Or uh because I keep recommending they got to go bigger on their media narrative.
You got Bobby Kennedy get the president, but it it's not having the it's not having the push that you have to do to get through the white noise.
Do you think that Bobby Kennedy's actions are enough at least at least to turn it around with some of these people, and do you think the messaging is amplified enough and at such a scale that it's going to break through the white noise and get to the American people?
mark mitchell
Uh remember the days of thunder?
Remember the shock and awe as we saw USAID funding network uh piping all this money into leftist NGOs.
We automatically realized no, it's not George Soros that's just doing this for ideological reasons, it's a whole web of of leverage, basically of arbitrage of influence arbitrage, and how when you and I were processing all that stuff, you probably knew about it, but for me, it was an eye-opener.
This is way worse than we thought, but also more systematic and understandable than we thought.
There was like an aha moment.
Well, in the polling, it's almost like America reflexively felt that too, because we were setting right direction records.
Remember, 60% of 18 to 39 year olds were like, Yeah, we're gonna get a second golden age under Trump.
Like this is happening.
He had a 60% approval rating among 18 to 29s, like it was wild.
And it was because of Doge, and it was because I think this idea of I don't think there's any specific one thing that America knows, well, if I got that, we'll be happy, everything will be fixed.
But I think it's this pot of boiling water that we're still sitting in.
People, I think will start to you know, connect the dots and say, well, you know, not enough of this has been changed.
And and so again, we need to see more.
And I can't specifically say what that is, because I'm not looking at the grand juries.
I don't know what evidence they have on these people.
But we need to know because again, I I don't want to get anybody sued for defamation here, Steve.
But when you hear the story specifically about how that one drug used uh pretty ubiquitously in the hospital treatment protocols, got its emergency youth auth authorization and what safety trials were done, and the people involved and whether whether they used to be at regulatory agencies and then became not, and they went to industry.
It stinks, it absolutely stinks.
And people in this polling are tying the treatment protocols to deaths, like real deaths in a nonpartisan way.
I mean, it and again, people could say, oh, it's not polling, you're just polling people who answer polls.
It's like, okay, I defy anybody in the industry to prove me wrong.
steve bannon
Hang on for a second, I'm gonna hold you through the break.
Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen on the other side.
unidentified
Let's take down the CCP.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
steve bannon
Uh Mitchell, we gotta go, and I want to get your coordinates.
But I have one question.
I think intuitively the 18 to 30 year old, 18 to 29-year-old understand.
This is why I say the the most based generation, particularly young men in American history.
They entirely know why did people do this?
What all the action you talk about, they did it for one reason.
What was that reason?
mark mitchell
I mean, this is the system has been destroyed.
These people should be inheriting America in its golden age.
They should be the most optimistic, and they think the system's failed them.
They don't look forward to their future with optimism.
Many of them are suffering from mental health.
They've been literally turned into the pariah of our modern society, and they're angry now.
And they're not conservative.
We've talked about this a lot.
And I'll just say one thing for the Trump administration.
If anybody in the administration is watching you, uh watching me, go look on YouTube for Moist Criticals video and Asmungold's reaction to it.
Millions of people in the 18 to 29-year-old bracket, most of the men are going to be watching that, and they're angry.
And it's because they're not seeing enough accountability.
People on the right and the left are looking at it and saying, What do I see?
I see a lot of like paradoxes.
Like, why was the Trump administration leaning into anti-vax stuff and now Trump just got a vaccine a week ago?
Like, what's with all this um you know, crypto stuff?
Like, what's with these business deals?
Like, why are these people that we've been told are going to be arrested, not being arrested?
And whether that stuff's right or wrong, it's the optics.
And people are asking hard questions about that and getting angry now.
So if you want to know the 18 to 29-year-olds, like talk to Barron.
He'll tell you who to watch.
That's I think that's what it comes down to.
steve bannon
Mark Mitchell, what are your coordinates, sir?
mark mitchell
Rasmussen underscore poll at YouTube.
We'll probably cover this polling on a stream tomorrow night at 9 p.m.
Eastern.
Rast Rasmussen underscore poll on Twitter, and I'm at honest polster.
And please, like, we've made everybody an enemy, and so neither party is paying to, you know, have us help them win.
We're independent and basically all of corporate America despises us.
So if people want to support us, they can go to RasmussenReports.com, sign up for a couple bucks a month as a reader.
Uh that's really where most of our revenue comes from.
And then it's not USAID or the dark money NGOs.
So use the right.
steve bannon
You're the perfect pollster.
You're perfect pollster for the war and posse.
unidentified
All corporate America and both in both political parties.
mark mitchell
Ungovernable outcast.
steve bannon
Exactly.
Thank you, brother.
Amazing.
Um what is amazing is the reason that now gold is knocking on the door of 4400.
Like I said, it's not the price here.
You can tell.
Um we have said that the Chinese Communist Party is outright in economic war with the United States and the people of the United States.
With everything President Trump's trying to do to accommodate them and to try to balance this thing out, and you know, start putting some logical uh tariffs in because of the trade so out of control.
Um, they have thrown down, they've gone up the escalatory ladder on this rare earth, and President Trump knows how serious it is.
You saw today, out of nowhere, we're best with Australia.
Now, Australia's been a long time ally.
Don't get me wrong, they're great.
My ship pulled into Australia a number of times.
They're great people, love it, great ally in the Pacific and the Indo-Pacific.
But this was different today, and you can tell it was different.
Um gold is responding to that.
They're under they're responding to the geopolitical.
There's also tons of articles up today about what we talked about weeks ago, about the asset classes, the asset kind of makeup on the balance sheets of big banks and central banks are that's changing.
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