Oct. 16, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the final scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You just got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of them. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | |
| Okay, welcome back to uh the second hour of our late afternoon, early evening show. | ||
| Uh I love the format of the six o'clock. | ||
| You guys know that. | ||
| We would it's we give us more runway to be actually get into kind of deeper conversation so you don't have the pressure of the clock and the segments all the time, which kind of drives the intensity of the morning show. | ||
| But in the afternoon, after doing an hour of kind of update news reporting on signal, not noise. | ||
| I always like to try to get into things a little deeper in the uh in the second hour. | ||
| Was very honored yesterday uh to be asked by uh Tucker Carlson and his team to come on. | ||
| He does this live aspect of a show uh every Wednesday, and I was really honored to uh to be a part of it. | ||
| Uh we wanted to play it in its entirety and break it down into a couple of uh segments. | ||
| Uh Tucker had asked me to come on and and talk about the escalation of political violence in in the country. | ||
| And uh I I'm very worried about this. | ||
| And the reason is is that with the shifts that are happening um demographically, with the shifts are happening in the country now uh actually with President Trump uh in his administration getting very serious on um on things like redistricting and and the Supreme Court uh case uh from the other day from yesterday uh about Louisiana. | ||
| It's it's obvious that we could pick up anywhere from I don't know, 15 to maybe 25 seats, and therefore make it almost out of reach for the Democrats ever to have real uh really a shot if we turn up, obviously, a shot at uh at ever taking back the House. | ||
| And maybe even shifting the Senate and electoral votes pretty significantly in 2028. | ||
| As it becomes obvious that Democrat the democratic process will be dominated by MACA and the President Trump going forward, they're gonna get increasingly increasingly irrational, increasingly violent, and increasingly dangerous. | ||
| Now, President Trump is going with a whole of government aspect to stop this, whether it's sending ICE in to begin mass deportations or it's having the FBI start looking at violent extremists. | ||
| But the reality is Charlie Kirk was assassinated. | ||
| The left is um cheering on Luigi Manjoni and the crowd. | ||
| If you look at uh mom Donny in um in New York City, behind the happy talk and the smile is a very dangerous combination of Marxism and jihadist Sharia supremacism, and they will turn New York City into London in the next couple of years. | ||
| So the first part of this we deal with this uh on Tucker, I do get into also one of the most important things on uh the trade-offs on foreign policy. | ||
| I keep saying that the Mid East is a sideshow to the main event, which is the Chinese Communist Party and what they're trying to do and take down the United States of America. | ||
| And I say, uh, if the Middle East is a sideshow to the main event, then uh Israel's situation is a sideshow to a sideshow. | ||
| And I understand that upsets the Israel first crowd, but that's so be it. | ||
| We call them like we see him here in the war room. | ||
| The umport thing is to remember in that focus and turning it back to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| We always have to remember one of the reasons the countries got into this situation is because the administrative state and the deep state, and now we're in a government shutdown, that we only help hope that Russ vote continues on this amazing and massive effort to deconstruct the administrative state, and that the powers that be at the FBI and inside the administration go after the deep state. | ||
| We only have one opportunity to take this apart. | ||
| This is what I argued at Charlie's uh student action summit back in Tampa in July that we have to take down the deep state. | ||
| We have to do it on this watch. | ||
| And we have to do it with a sense of urgency because we're burning daylight. | ||
| We are burning daylight. | ||
| And I want to thank Tucker for giving me runway. | ||
| It's kind of tough doing the war room every day for four hours where we're bringing guests in and talking about themes. | ||
| You know, I I do go on my rants, but Tucker really gave me the opportunity for you know approximately what, 30 or 35 minutes to actually get into these topics and get into death with a great interviewer like Trump Tucker Carlson is. | ||
| And so we're gonna bifurcate this. | ||
| This is the first part of the of the interview will be on in this first half of the show. | ||
| Then I'm gonna return and kind of tee up what we're gonna do in the second half of the show. | ||
| And once again, I want to thank Tucker Carlson, his team, and everybody associated with it for giving this opportunity uh for me to be able to go into depth a little more in depth than we're actually able to do on the uh on the show every day. | ||
| So without further ado, we're gonna go, we're gonna start and uh we're gonna hit it with Tucker Carlson, the Tucker Carlson show, his live interview that we did uh last night. | ||
| Let's go ahead and hit it, and I will be back at the um beginning of the second part of the show. | ||
| Is this a national trend? | ||
| You don't want to be paranoid, you don't want to take you know one act of violence and extrapolate out and start slandering half the country's population. | ||
| But there is a theme here. | ||
| It's unmistakable. | ||
| Steve Bannon is one of the deepest thinkers on the right, has noticed this, thought about it, and joins us now. | ||
| Steve, thanks so much for doing this. | ||
| What do you what do you the Jay Jones thing seems uh I'm hard to shock, but it does seem like next kind of a next level escalation. | ||
| It's definitely up the escalatory ladder. | ||
| Um Tucker and as a native Virginian, it's pretty pretty shocking that no one's what's shocking is not so much they thought these horrible thoughts were, which is bad enough, but that no one's come out and condemned him. | ||
| It's been absolute silence. | ||
| And of course, the uh Democrat um nominee, it's just a word salad. | ||
| She can't even explain it. | ||
| So it's it shows you how radicalized the Democratic Party's become, but I think people better get ready. | ||
| It's gonna get a lot worse. | ||
| And I think that's because you saw the Supreme Court today, the the argument about um, you know, DEI districts. | ||
| You've seen this controversy over the mid-decade um census. | ||
| Uh you've seen the redistricting fight, we could pick up 21. | ||
| If you add all that together, I think the Times is saying on the on the on the DEI alone, the racial imbalance. | ||
| I think the Times has us picking up 12 seats, politico 19 seats. | ||
| That does not include all the redistricting fights, which is another 21 gross seats there, and you add in really doing a real census where illegal aliens are not counted, they're never gonna take back the house in the Senate. | ||
| And so you're only gonna what gets me is we're on an arc that they're only progressively gonna get more violent. | ||
| Uh, and you can see this in their worship of Man Gini, the worship of this uh the alleged assassin of uh of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Uh so I think it's gonna get a lot worse. | ||
| Given that, and I I hope you're wrong, but I sense you're not. | ||
| What do you make of Mike Lawler's Congressman Mike Lawler's response and the governing board of the National Young Republicans organization to these text messages, which I'm not endorsing, by the way, but you know, calling someone a retard or these kids should be destroyed. | ||
| Like it's an in it's an interesting contrast. | ||
| The Republicans kind of are very quick to shame their own. | ||
| They'll always fold. | ||
| Establishment Republicans will always fall on, as you know this better than anybody in any fight, they're gonna fold and they're gonna try to be supplicants to the media. | ||
| They're gonna be try to be supplicants to the media, a kind of chamber of commerce big donor attitude that we want to be invited to the parties, we want to be in the club, we want to have the New York Times write nice things about us. | ||
| That's we're we're heading towards a civil war. | ||
| I don't think there's any doubt. | ||
| We looked at the indices out there and the div and and the with these are unbridgeable divides right now and getting deeper. | ||
| And the Democratic Party is getting more and more radical. | ||
| Look, all everything we're dealing with right now is about illegal aliens, whether it's they want to spend a trillion dollars on their health Care, whether they're demanding a census that counts them uh for congressional racism for electoral college, uh, whether it's the mass deportations that we're trying to get done in Portland, Chicago, Los Angeles, everything's around. | ||
| If they don't have illegal aliens, if they don't have a foreign entity in here and folks in here, they don't have a good, there's no way for them to put together the votes. | ||
| They love democracy, but it's just the math doesn't work. | ||
| You saw the Supreme Court today. | ||
| You see these redistricting fights, and the reditioning fights are kind of like the kids in this chat room. | ||
| If we had enough stones and urgency and maximalization strategy, the 21 would already be up on the table, right? | ||
| We'd be now executing how you do it. | ||
| We have to do a whole fight about that. | ||
| So the the establishment, because they come up in this paradigm where the established order controls everything, and they want to be part of the established order. | ||
| And we see that we got here, you know, we've gotten here over 40 or 50 years, and we've won enough times as Republicans, the House, the Senate, the presidency, the countries basically on a cliff of an abyss. | ||
| And if it hadn't been for Trump, with all his imperfections, the country would be over. | ||
| So it's just gonna get worse. | ||
| We're gonna always have like this thing in Kansas where they're gonna throw, you know, people under the bus immediately and cower and be supplicants and ask for forgiveness for people who are not worthy of us asking for forgiveness. | ||
| And uh the fight is gonna get more intense. | ||
| The left is gonna get more radical. | ||
| They're gonna go up more of the escalatory ladder. | ||
| Look, man, Genie's a hero to them. | ||
| You gotta face and and uh uh in Mandami, he he's a Marxist jihadist that's gonna win, I don't know, by 15 points or so in New York City, Sadiq Khan. | ||
| Everything they have is even more radical than you can anticipate. | ||
| It's getting worse every day. | ||
| Um, they're not being responsible. | ||
| There's nothing, and it's really nothing to debate. | ||
| We have this chasm. | ||
| And to me, it's the pro the issue I have is that the Trump administration isn't and Pam Bondi and the and the crew are not moving quickly enough. | ||
| They had a thing today in the Oval, which was great about stopping, you know, violence in the streets. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| And I appreciate that. | ||
| But we have to focus on the deep state. | ||
| We have to focus on taking this apparatus. | ||
| We only have a short window of time, I think, to be able to do this, and we're not prioritizing it, and we're not hiring enough U.S. attorneys to focus on it, and we're not getting that. | ||
| If we don't get that done, these statistics we're putting out and the great job at Cash and Peep and Dan Bon Jr. are doing about arresting bad guys is not going to matter because you're gonna have more bad guys later invited invited back in by these people. | ||
| So now it's time to, I think, maximize our own strategy, seize the institutions and move with a sense of urgency. | ||
| Can you give a couple examples of what you think DOJ should be doing right now? | ||
| Well, first off, I think DOJ, we got attorneys. | ||
| I think we got to go back to the beginning. | ||
| You have to go back to the uh, you have to go back to the election. | ||
| You have to go back to January 6th. | ||
| Look at Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| There's a young reporter, Alison Steinberg over at Lindell TV. | ||
| She asked Nancy Pelosi a question today about January 6th and about the National Guard. | ||
| And Nancy Pelosi turned around, screamed at her from a few feet away. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| How can you ask that? | ||
| They're so sensitive about January 6th. | ||
| So you got to go back to the stolen election of 2020. | ||
| You've got to go back to January 6th. | ||
| You have to take the whole continuum. | ||
| You have to go back to the initial, the whole thing on crossfire hurricane. | ||
| You have to put the, you have to adjudicate everything they did, and we have to do it in public, even throwing the pandemic in there. | ||
| And the response, the summer of love, all of it. | ||
| We if to keep this republic and keep it as a constitutional republic, we have to be fair about this. | ||
| We have to be transparent about it. | ||
| We have to adjudicate it by the rule of law, but it has to be done. | ||
| And you see, we're making some progress. | ||
| You got Comey with a couple of charges on appetizer, John Bolton, uh, you know, maybe with a couple, Letitia James, but it's not good enough and it's not fast enough. | ||
| And the only way we're going to solve this is U.S. attorneys. | ||
| I think we're 25 or 30 short, is what I'm hearing. | ||
| There's just some sort of backlog. | ||
| And you can't, you can't depend on a halligan coming out of nowhere and being able to drop a couple right away. | ||
| We have to take uh apart the deep state. | ||
| We have to do it now in every aspect that's happened over the last couple of years. | ||
| You know, at Charlie's, I know you're at the uh student action summit down in Tampa. | ||
| And normally, you know me, I'm running out there, we're at war, and I'm dropping the mic and running around like a madman. | ||
| I told Charlie before I said, this is gonna be very different. | ||
| I said, I'm gonna go out with I call the Tampa Resolves, and it is we have to prioritize everything else we're working on. | ||
| It has to be to go after the deep state. | ||
| That That combination of national security, intelligence, law enforcement, the Pentagon, its interconnections with Wall Street and big tech, that we have to do that. | ||
| If we don't go after that and do it now with a sense of urgency, we're never going to have another shot. | ||
| This is the time we have to do it. | ||
| We have to make it a priority. | ||
| And I said, you're going to find out something in this. | ||
| The third resolve I said was, you know, do it now, do it with urgency. | ||
| And the third was who's ever not with us is against us. | ||
| This is the best way we can unmask everybody. | ||
| Because this is not going to be pleasant. | ||
| It's not going to be easy. | ||
| You and I are called, you're called more names than I am, but we were both, you know, by the Tel Aviv Levin crowd, we're called everything, right? | ||
| They're going to do more of that because the deep state is also connected with certain of our allies. | ||
| You have to go do this. | ||
| And you have to do it. | ||
| It's not going to be pleasant. | ||
| You're going to get thrown out of your country club, maybe. | ||
| But if you're going to save the Republic, we have to do this now. | ||
| And a part of that, you're going to see if you do that, the political, the escalating political violence of the more and more radical left, and quite frankly, more and more of the central apparatus of the Democratic Party is going to be gutted. | ||
| And that's why I think, you know, President Trump, I know wants to focus. | ||
| Todd Blanch talked about today in the Oval Office. | ||
| It has to happen. | ||
| And it's only going to happen, I think, if people like you and myself and some others keep saying, hey guys, I understand you got a thousand things you're working on, but we have to start to rank order priorities. | ||
| And this has to be the priority right now for President Trump. | ||
| I mean, there are so many places you could start, but it seems obvious that you would start with the FBI. | ||
| And we now know it's confirmed that there were hundreds of plain closed FBI agents in the crowd on January 6th. | ||
| So that changes that that's not crowd control. | ||
| That's that's political subversion. | ||
| And it kind of confirms what a lot of people have been saying for a number of years now that there was a fake element to that. | ||
| There are a lot of sincere people protesting what they thought was the theft of the election, but there were also clearly agitators in the crowd. | ||
| It was a setup to some extent, obviously. | ||
| Hundreds of plainclosed FBI agents. | ||
| And uh, you know, I almost got fired for saying that a couple of years ago was obvious to me, but now we know it's true. | ||
| In fact, it's worse than we thought it was. | ||
| How many FBI officials have been fired for that? | ||
| No, I mean, you continue to ask, how many have been let go? | ||
| I think a handful. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It hasn't been enough to register with any type of uh head count that OMB's doing or budget, the budget increase. | ||
| Look, I love cash and I love Dan Begino. | ||
| I cash is like a brother to me. | ||
| I've done, but they're two guys hanging on by their fingernails. | ||
| The same with Pam and Todd. | ||
| This is why I say the official inside the U.S. attorney, the main justice, you need about another 25 or 30 of these prosecutors. | ||
| You got to get on with it. | ||
| The FBI, look, I I for a long time I said, I think we got to bifurcate. | ||
| It's too big, too complicated, covers too much stuff. | ||
| Like the counterterrorism, you got to bifurcate it. | ||
| I think you put the counterterrorism. | ||
| First off, you downsize it and you put it uh in the intelligence part over DHS, and you have somebody a reorganization of that. | ||
| This is law enforcement, I'll be tied to U.S. attorneys. | ||
| We ought to have a much smaller federal police federal police force, which this is, it ought to have a much tighter mandate. | ||
| We have to have much more control. | ||
| Because look, the scandal of the FBI is twofold. | ||
| Number one is what they did and the mentality and and the and the organizing principles inside the FBI that made it that you would do it. | ||
| And it was career enhancing to do it. | ||
| In fact, uh, you would not think of not doing the whistleblowers were a handful. | ||
| I mean, I'd sit on the on the warm every day and say, hey, look, you're not gonna be able to use the SS uh excuse that, hey, I was just following orders. | ||
| You have we've only had a handful of whistleblowers. | ||
| And we know from the other day of even getting this information you're talking about and others talking about came from it's not that Dan, Dan and Cash admit uh we don't control it, we didn't get the information. | ||
| This came through a whistleblower. | ||
| This came through some person that was afraid of getting wrapped up in this. | ||
| But the the FBI to me should be downsized by two-thirds. | ||
| First off, by splitting it up and then going through because remember, the second part of the scandal, and maybe the more important is that Ray Baldface lied to people for years and years and years. | ||
| And the oversight, it just kind of went over the oversight. | ||
| If we hadn't won and come back from nowhere, because they never thought we were coming back, right? | ||
| That's one of the reasons they were so blatant. | ||
| We wouldn't know any of this today because Congress didn't perform its functions. | ||
| And I might add that this was a Republican illustration. | ||
| It was President Trump's administration, and we can kind of control for a moment the apparatus of which they lied to us, and there was no follow-up on the oversight. | ||
| It's just okay. | ||
| So Ray was able to kind of worm out of it. | ||
| It's so deep, it requires to me a you have to go in with a trenching tool and dig them out. | ||
| And we got to have cash and Dan's back to do that. | ||
| We're not doing it right now. | ||
| And you can't depend upon just a random whistleblower to have an act of conscience, right? | ||
| You can't depend upon the kindness of others. | ||
| We have to do this, and it's going to be unpleasant. | ||
| And the New York Times is going to say you're a bunch of fascists, and uh the New Yorkers are gonna say terrible things about you. | ||
| But hey, who cares? | ||
| We're trying to save our country right now. | ||
| And now we've won everything. | ||
| If we don't take advantage of every frickin' moment, because we're burning daylight, this is gonna pass. | ||
| There's gonna be all kinds of other issues come up, and we're just gonna go, okay, let's go have another election. | ||
| It's not enough. | ||
| Well, we've already wasted months and months and months on this Iran Qatar insanity, you know, totally unbelievable. | ||
| Yeah, insanity. | ||
| But also you sort of wonder like what's the cost, not just the financial cost, but the cost and attention and priority. | ||
| The opportunity cost. | ||
| But what is this impulse? | ||
| You've been in Republican politics really at the center of it for so long, where Republicans seem to spend most of their time policing the leaders policing their members and their voters. | ||
| Like what is that? | ||
| It's it's the it's the abused spouse syndrome or whatever. | ||
| It's by the way, the policing is immediate and constant, right? | ||
| And almost uh, and almost like Cromwell. | ||
| I mean, so the that the policing is immediate, and there's no discussion about how this happened or whatever. | ||
| But for the left, you let them get away with the most egregious crime, and they know that. | ||
| They know that we're they know that institutionally the party is weak because the party's one, not a party of government, obviously, of individuals, but it's attracted, and you know this better than anybody, just people who kind of want to get along, who want to be have people not say bad things about them. | ||
| Uh, you know, and the way to do that is just to go along. | ||
| And if we can make some changes on the margin, it would work. | ||
| If that strategy worked, the country wouldn't be on the edge of the abyss. | ||
| Even with Trump, we are on the edge of the abyss. | ||
| And people, and many people waking up the MAGA base knows it. | ||
| They got the pitchforks, they're ready to roll. | ||
| In fact, every day when I do the show, they're blowing me up. | ||
| Hey, why are we not doing more about the deep state? | ||
| Why are we not naming names? | ||
| Why are people out there? | ||
| Which is great. | ||
| So we have a voting base of blue-collar and middle class people are saying we've had a belly full of this and we want action, right? | ||
| And you have still political apparatus that continues to say, because even Dan Bangino, those guys are police. | ||
| Look what look when our people go up to Capitol Hill. | ||
| They get as tough a grilling by the by the Republicans oftentimes as they do the Democrats. | ||
| The Democrats are so over the top. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| But you there's still the the um the uh you know, the correction police, the correct, you know, to be politically correct, is still there, and still the mentality of it. | ||
| And the only way we're gonna do that is to just take action and get some scalps. | ||
| And that's why I think you're starting to see through some of these indictments, maybe Bolton, but it's not enough, and you're not getting to the central apparatus part, which we have to get to. | ||
| I mean, a lot of the political consultants at you know, highest level Republican political consultants seem very consumed with knocking off Marjorie Taylor Green or Thomas Massey. | ||
| You don't have to agree with everything those people are calling for, but you can't say they're liberal, they're not liberal. | ||
| I mean, Massey's kind of a libertarian, but he's a lot more conservative than I don't know, Lindsay Graham or Michael Lawler by any measure. | ||
| And yet they seem like they're spending 80% of their day trying to find a primary challenger for Massey and Marjorie Taylor Green. | ||
| Like, what is that? | ||
| Is that I mean it almost seems like subversion to me. | ||
| They're so look, they're so tied to the Israel first money. | ||
| This is what's they're trying to crush Massey out in and Massey's not perfect, right? | ||
| MTG, I'm I'm very close to MTG. | ||
| She's not perfect, you know. | ||
| She flipped and went with McCarthy, but she's a fire brand and she's a fighter. | ||
| And when a fight counts, she's gonna be there with you. | ||
| Well, and they're both sincere. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| Both that's that's look, I don't agree with everything. | ||
| I do agree with everything Marjorie says, but I don't agree with everything Massey says, but he's totally sincere. | ||
| He's not getting paid to say these things. | ||
| He means it. | ||
| And isn't that who you want on your side? | ||
| Here's well, they don't. | ||
| Look, Luns and these guys, remember, if you look at back up at Capitol Hill, and I know you know the math here. | ||
| We only have a handful of MAGA people, right? | ||
| If you look in the Senate, we got maybe Eric Schmidt, maybe Josh Harley Boss, both from Missouri. | ||
| Uh, in the House, we got a handful. | ||
| We got a handful. | ||
| Uh, and because they look at Trump as a passing summer storm. | ||
| It could be bad, but it's gonna pass. | ||
| And if we just this is why I'm saying we have to have a sense of urgency, we're burning daylight. | ||
| They just hope to tap President Trump along. | ||
| And they'll get to the midterms, and then you know, 2028, and they'll just, you know, Ted Cruz already had a big article in the the Daily Telegraph. | ||
| He's already putting his team together. | ||
| I know it's totally random. | ||
| It's totally random from your interview, and that Israel first has to have a candidate since they just got crushed here in the last uh couple of days. | ||
| But it is because uh certain vested interests want people to kind of tow it, cy tow to a line, right? | ||
| And if you fall outside that, they're gonna come after you. | ||
| And I think that's why the beh it behooves us. | ||
| Look, Fox just had the first interview, I think, I think with mom Domini, right? | ||
| He gets on there, six minutes. | ||
| They got a big debate tomorrow night. | ||
| The only question was about Gaza and Israel. | ||
| They're asking this guy with everything else going on, and quite frankly, how he's a Marxist shahadist, but he has kind of taken populism and talk, you know, talk about affordability. | ||
| You think you might want to get in back of the working families party and DSA and how they replicate the Trump, you know, turning point uh war room uh precinct strategy for ground game for low information, low propensity voters, and this is why they're blowing guys out because they had no money at first against Cuomo. | ||
| No, we're not gonna talk about that. | ||
| We're gonna talk about arresting Bibi Netanyahu. | ||
| Uh, you haven't given Trump credit, and what do you think about the Gaza Peace? | ||
| Literally five minutes, the first interview, five minutes, all about all about Israel. | ||
| This is just this this obsession with it. | ||
| And when I gave that keynote speech to kind of wrap up the National Conservatism Conference, which is kind of got a strong neocon, you know, take on it. | ||
| Uh, I said uh to quote T. E. Lawrence from the Seven Pillars of Wisdom. | ||
| Uh, what they told him at the time when he showed up at Cairo's military headquarters, they said, look, the Middle East is a sideshow to the main event, the Western Front. | ||
| And that's right. | ||
| The Arab Revolt is a sideshow to a sideshow. | ||
| And I said, the Middle East, right now for us, with everything geopolitically going on in the economic war, China, and and and our nation sliding toward a civil war around insurrection with a party like the Democrats are have an escalatory ladder of violence. | ||
| The Middle East is a sideshow, and the Israel issue is a sideshow to a sideshow. | ||
| We just that's full stop. | ||
| And you can't let it, you can't let it be the central thing that you that you revolve around. | ||
| And I'm I'm a supporter of Israel and I'm a support of the Jewish people. | ||
| But the Israel first aspect of this has taken our eyes so far off the ball because they kept saying it's gonna tear MAGA apart. | ||
| It's not gonna tear MAGA apart because it's not a big enough fundamental issue to tear us apart. | ||
| And that's why we have to focus on the time that we have to really take down the central thing that President Trump will be known for. | ||
| One will be some of this peace on the Eurasian landmass, etc. | ||
| But the central thing, if he can accomplish it, and we must accomplish it on his tour of duty, is the deconstruction of the Ministry of State and the destruction of the deep state. | ||
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| What are the midterms going to look like, do you think? | ||
| Well, it hey, if we get the redistrict things, and I think Mike Davis was on the show earlier. | ||
| And of course, um the uh the left is melting down this afternoon after the Supreme Court uh, you know, debates or the Supreme Court, you know, today on the on the uh DEI congressional gerrymandering districts. | ||
| If we get a win there and we do the reditions that that is only fair to the American people, if we get those, you could add another, you know, 10 or 15, maybe 20 net seats. | ||
| It'll be quite hard to overcome. | ||
| We can't, if we allow Hakeem Jeffries, the guys either steal seats or win seats, and they take over the house, people have to understand the whole Trump revolution comes to a full stop. | ||
| They will be subpoenas flying the first day. | ||
| Trump will be impeached in the first three weeks. | ||
| Not that he'll be removed from office, but they'll go through the whole rigor. | ||
| You're gonna have subpoenas flying everywhere. | ||
| The whole fight every day will be trench warfare against Hakeem Jeffries and these guys to keep our revolutionary movement going to basically return ourselves to to a constitutional republic. | ||
| That's the stakes of these midterms. | ||
| And that's why I say every person, every governor, and a lot of these governors are not working with us because guess what? | ||
| They don't, it's like Cox in Utah, you know, was it Pilson in Nebraska? | ||
| They don't want to upset the apple cart, they don't have people say bad things about them. | ||
| And so if we get the redistrictings, redistricting done that are out there to do, and you have uh a ruling from the Supreme Court that talks about, you know, these are net, I think times I said 12 and Politico 19. | ||
| It's a steep hill for Jeffries to overcome. | ||
| And I think this is a danger also for the country. | ||
| I think as they see that the democratic process is not going to work for them, that basically the dynamics and demographics of the country also a revival of I think religious, because I think this young generation, 18 to 30s, the particularly the men are the most based generation we've ever had. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| That if this if this keeps coming, they're not gonna be able to win at the ballot box. | ||
| And so they will go to, you know, on a twist on Klaus Fitz, they will go to violence of other means politically when the political process and the the democracy doesn't work. | ||
| Because remember, the people that beat the drum of democracy were the Bolsheviks back in 17. | ||
| The left uses the same type of language, and people should understand when they understand that the electoral college has moved away from them, that the house has moved away from them for the legitimate and fair demographics and shifts in the nation, they're gonna get more violent, they're gonna get uh more angry, uh, and they're gonna get more dangerous. | ||
| So we have institutions to deal with civil unrest, of course, and one of them is the FBI. | ||
| Um, and so it seems like it would be a matter of self-preservation. | ||
| If you're on the side of the Constitution and Heritage America, and just like normal people, you would want an institutional law enforcement agency that could keep riots from metastasizing into civil war. | ||
| So you'd want to make sure the FBI was on the side of the Constitution, no? | ||
| Like immediately. | ||
| You would, but I think they're they're trying this what I'm saying. | ||
| You have an institutional problem there, just not a personal personnel problem. | ||
| It's just not a comi or a ray. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's a deep, there's a deep rot. | ||
| And and why? | ||
| Because remember the the the traditional Catholics they went after, that's my parish and my parents who are blue-collar people, started a little traditional Latin mass parish as a spinoff from the Benedictine Abbey back in the late 70s. | ||
| And these are the people that have eight and nine kids, a couple people of the kids go in the Marines or the Navy. | ||
| It's just the salt of the earth. | ||
| They have no money. | ||
| Uh they're there, it's blue collar. | ||
| That's the parish they focused on to make this thing over the entire country that this is where extremism is. | ||
| And you can't have a more Americana place than this. | ||
| It's the institution that's rotted. | ||
| When I was in Danbury prison, some of the most remarkable men I've ever met are these men that are in prison for five, six, seven, eight years for praying the rosary outside of an abortion clinic. | ||
| That's all they did. | ||
| They go to prison. | ||
| And of course, they have women that are grandmothers in the other prisons. | ||
| If you look across the board, the FBI, if we think it, we it lost its way under Hoover, and we think institutionally it drifted, and even in 9-11, it's just had a terrible track record. | ||
| There's a deep rot in there that's quite frankly anti-American. | ||
| So now when really America, you're right, would need her needed as an institution most, you actually have to go in and institutionally take this thing apart. | ||
| I think bifurcate it, get the two law enforcement and counterintelligence and intel out of there, and then deal with the law enforcement, but still, layer by layer, you have to take it apart. | ||
| You have to bring in a new generation of uh of FBI agents, train them up, almost start like Hoover, start it over again, think it through, and then go. | ||
| Otherwise, you're you're just putting a band-aid on a shotgun wound, and it's not going to work. | ||
| And I think that that's the mentality on Capitol Hill. | ||
| You can see this. | ||
| There's no urgent, there's no budget cuts coming from this. | ||
| There's no getting the director up there and raking them over the coals about how many personality let go. | ||
| Let me see the internal reports. | ||
| We're finding these things out every couple of days from whistleblowers who are getting nervous, they may get wrapped up in an investigation, but that's that's not good enough. | ||
| That's not systemically going through this. | ||
| Whose fault is that? | ||
| I think it's I think it's um like where's Mike Johnson? | ||
| Where's the speaker of the house in this? | ||
| No, he's the epitome of what you talk about. | ||
| He's just, he's the personification of we wouldn't have been in this shape with all the elections we won, right? | ||
| Both at the presidential level, house. | ||
| We wouldn't have been in the shape if you had men and women of courage and basically saying, I don't care what they say about me, I don't care if I'm here for two terms or 20 terms, I'm gonna get to the heart of this. | ||
| He's a go-along to get along guy, obviously. | ||
| And that's the that's the institutional mindset over there. | ||
| It's a kind of a faceless crowd. | ||
| That's why the Marjorie Taylor Greens uh stick out, right? | ||
| This is why certain people kind of stick out because they are fire breathers, the Matt Gates is of the world. | ||
| If you, if you're a fire breather, you stick out and they want to hammer you down, right? | ||
| They want to throw you under the bus. | ||
| So I I think that institution has to be changed. | ||
| But I think we got to go after the executive branch institution. | ||
| So we're not gonna have a lot of time, and we're gonna meet tremendous resistance on this. | ||
| The deeper one, the FBI is bad as the FBI is, which is terrible. | ||
| When you look at the intelligence apparatus and the national security part with the Pentagon, because remember, why do we just have a huge win and basically breaking the back of the Israel First people because about the Iran to Persian situation, right? | ||
| And we now know from the times of Israel, right? | ||
| Not from the Tucker Carlson show and not from Warhammer, not from Breitbart. | ||
| You now know that the war cabinet's minutes and debate was about a two-year stretch for this nuclear program to really be of danger kick in. | ||
| Two years, of which we said all the time, not two days, not two weeks. | ||
| Yet the CIA, and I say Ratcliffe's a guy we ought to bring up and have him testify in front of Congress and grill him. | ||
| How did he give the president totally different information than Tulsi Gabbart and her team who turned out to be right? | ||
| And remember, we went for two months, and Tulsi Gabbard that was thrown under the bus every day. | ||
| There was a horrible article about her. | ||
| She's not a team player, she's incompetent, she's over ahead. | ||
| And she got a little bit ostracized there for a minute until people realize hello, she actually did an aggregate of all the different all the different 17 branches, and she was right. | ||
| There was no change from her original testimony. | ||
| It was about two years away or thereabouts, according to the war cabinet of uh uh of the Israel government, Israeli government, the Netanyahu government. | ||
| And it kind of comports to when Brett Bear pressed him up that Sunday night, was saying, hey, why was this so urgent the other day? | ||
| And go, head, how about? | ||
| And they said, well, you know, we're six months to a year away. | ||
| That's another bald face lie. | ||
| It's two years, and he just debated this the other night. | ||
| That effort shows us that we have a massive problem in the intelligence apparatus. | ||
| And that to me should be as high a priority as the FBI. | ||
| You have to do them both. | ||
| You have to do them now. | ||
| You have to put a team together to go do it. | ||
| And the people you put together have to be incredibly tough and incredibly focused. | ||
| But that's why I think I've been arguing for a special prosecutor for this entire kind of uh deep state, or at least the conspiracy against Trump in the first term and rolling over to the second term of the of a clapper and Brennan and all these guys. | ||
| So it's I I think you either do it that way or internally, if you can do it and but hire more U.S. attorneys, cut the FBI down by at least a third immediately, uh, even if you have to give up some things you're working on. | ||
| Because I think right now the people are saying, hey, look, it's great with with the crime thing you did today, uh, Cash, I feel better. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| President Trump's committed to put troops into the cities, and he should if we have to shut this crime down. | ||
| So let's just start taking the FBI apart. | ||
| I I don't think anyone persons to blame. | ||
| I think it is that there's so much going on. | ||
| They're so overwhelmed on other topics. | ||
| We just need to kind of triage this and say, okay, guys, let's think about the end game here. | ||
| Like, let's take a let's go three years downrange. | ||
| Where do we want to be on these institutions and kind of work back to that to the day? | ||
| I think you can get great people in there uh to do it. | ||
| So you said you think that violence could be coming or is coming, moving towards some kind of national split. | ||
| There's always a flash point that kicks off, usually it's manufactured, the death of George of George Floyd, for example. | ||
| But when that happens, it comes out of nowhere. | ||
| No one's prepared for it. | ||
| And Republicans in general, Republican leaders miss what it is at first. | ||
| You know, Nikki Haley on the first day of the George Floyd riots cheered on the riots. | ||
| Many Republicans in Washington reacted to January 6th like it was an actual insurrection. | ||
| Like they they they go along with the lie, and that has huge downstream effects. | ||
| Will that happen again whenever that flash point comes? | ||
| Uh certainly. | ||
| No, no doubt, because these are not courageous people. | ||
| They would rather be supplicants and have approval in the um, you know, the um was it the uh the architecture of approval? | ||
| They would rather go to the side that's gonna you've got to pass here's what I tell people. | ||
| I gave this talk at Semaphores, you know, their their little Davos they do in the spring when Ben Smith invited me to talk at kind of one of the guys that wrapped it up. | ||
| And I said, Look, you may not like the populist policies I put forward economics. | ||
| You may not like the fact that I push to have a tax increase for the uh for the wealthy, right? | ||
| Because I just you do the math and something's gonna have to give here. | ||
| We're just not gonna grow our way out of it. | ||
| But I said you're gonna have a choice. | ||
| Your choice is mangini, right? | ||
| Or really populous nationalism. | ||
| Because uh this and this is before at Mondami, so now they've got to count too. | ||
| But the hero worship of that guy, the hero worship of the alleged assassin, and I'm not even sure I'm I haven't seen enough to believe he's the assassin, I think is a much deeper conspiracy. | ||
| But the hero worship by the radicals on the on the left, particularly the most radical, which may be these trannies, right? | ||
| They're now basically very disturbed men and very manipulative men. | ||
| That's who most of them are, right? | ||
| Who are now down on this and and want to and want to, you know, want it to be a gunfight. | ||
| I said, you should watch online and you should watch how they're kind of turned into heroes if you want to see where this thing's gonna go, because it's not gonna with Reddit and these other chat rooms, it's only getting darker. | ||
| And the more they lose, and particularly the more that they see that structurally the countries change and finally with Trump and others, you've had people that will call that out. | ||
| The Supreme Court will move on it. | ||
| Uh people will do these redistrictings, uh, that institutionally we will start to at least make some movement there. | ||
| When they see that it's impossible to take back the House or to take back the Senate. | ||
| So in electoral college, I think it's gonna be very, very difficult. | ||
| But even if they take that, we would structurally have the House and Senate as a check and start to do the deconstruction in the Surry State with with uh Russ Vogt and the team, they're going to get more violent. | ||
| They're not gonna get more, they're not gonna embrace uh some sort of Martin Luther King or Gandhi, uh, you know, the the underlying uh philosophy and ethics of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. | ||
| They're not gonna go, it's not gonna be the Beatitudes. | ||
| They're going to get more dangerous, and you can see this how they're getting egged on by MSMEC, how they're getting egged on by the the main the corporate media on the left. | ||
| And so that's why I think we're going to a very dark place. | ||
| But when you go through hell, let's go through as quickly as possible. | ||
| And I think we have to stand and face it today so our kids and grandkids don't have to do it. | ||
| So how how should people prepare for that personally? | ||
| People who have no control over Supreme Court decisions or electoral maps, like a family. | ||
| How do you prepare for what you think is imminent? | ||
| Well, I think first of all, a family ought to be in your in your daily life. | ||
| Like one of our sponsors is my Patriot Supply. | ||
| 10 years ago, that was looked like as wing nuts, right? | ||
| It's a tenfold hat. | ||
| It's not a tinfold hat. | ||
| I mean, look what's happening to the grid. | ||
| You look to what's going to happen in these data centers, even the water use of the data centers. | ||
| Number one, as a family unit, I think you ought to get to know each other very well and spend time in each other's life. | ||
| You ought to have set readings and try to do the underpinnings of our culture more and more and more to really nurture the unit of the family. | ||
| But number two, I think you've got to get ready. | ||
| You just you have to think through, not to be paranoid, but to say, look, in the in modernity, there's going to be a lot of risk. | ||
| How is we as a unit rationally mitigate that risk? | ||
| How do we mitigate the risk to our family, to our food supply, to electricity, to our phones and communications? | ||
| Let's just go through and maybe a sign, a great task for a 12-year-old. | ||
| Hey, think this through for. | ||
| So the sign all the risk out there for the family without being paranoid and go through a risk mitigation exercise. | ||
| And to leave that, to leave that um thought is the reason I make everybody comes to work for me watch 12 o'clock high. | ||
| It's a movie made in the 1940s. | ||
| They only there's only two films shown at Harvard Business School. | ||
| And they show this film about organizational behavior and how you change an organization to make it excellent, right? | ||
| And you you just know that this family unit, we're gonna, we're gonna survive and we're gonna thrive. | ||
| But we're gonna do this right. | ||
| And I think if you just start doing that every day and make it part, you know, just doing reps like you do in football, make it part of the natural reflex of your family, your family unit, and you take leadership in the family, no matter if you're the husband, the wife, the kids, you take leadership in that, we're gonna be fine. | ||
| I I think, by the way, I feel actually very good. | ||
| And one of the reasons I look at this younger generation, particularly men, don't want to downplay women, but the college-educated women are so far gone, right? | ||
| By and large, the left. | ||
| But if you look at this young generation of men, 18 to 30, they're the most based generation I think we've ever had. | ||
| And they're coming either with fathers or uncles or older brothers that volunteered for these endless wars and really fought every bit as great as revolutionary war, the civil war, World War I, World II, as volunteers in a thankless effort that you might add was pointless too. | ||
| And I think that that the strength of that coupled with this kind of base and the return to, I think you're seeing a return to not just uh Christian values and reading the Bible, but an interest in uh the underpinnings of philosophy and theology for the West. | ||
| They want to know more about Western culture. | ||
| They want to know why modernity has outlawed America, you know, basically traditional culture. | ||
| This is, you know, I consider myself a populist nationalist traditionalist. | ||
| I don't call myself a conservative, haven't for years because I think the conservatives are just they've just acted like pussies. | ||
| They roll over all the time, and you can't do that. | ||
| You have to be as hard or harder than the left. | ||
| And I think Tucker, I really feel good. | ||
| I think we have very dark days ahead of us, uh, both globally with the CCP and others to get sucked into these wars. | ||
| I think we have very dark days in front of us as a country, but I can start to see the sunlit uplands way, way, way, way off in the distance. | ||
| And so I'm very enthusiastic of where we are. | ||
| And I think my enthusiasm comes from this young generation who had everything against it the propaganda in the schools, the the destruction of their culture, the outing of them for everything if they didn't fall in line with the most radical things of sexuality or gender or climate change, all these things from the official source. | ||
| They came through it to come through that with a set and apparatus that is so radical, trying to either other you or destroy you every day. | ||
| And they came through that. | ||
| That shows you We have the basic foundation that we've had from the beginning of every patriot's grave down to the future. | ||
| And that makes me feel we got this, but we got to get on with it. | ||
| In the distance, I can see this the sunlit uplands. | ||
| Boy, I'm I'm putting that on my refrigerator. | ||
| Steve Bannon, eloquent and wise. | ||
| Thank you so much for doing this. | ||
| Tucker, always an honor and an honor to fight in the trenches with you. | ||
| You have um you have taken amazing abuse for helping lead this country to oh, it's incredible. | ||
| I mean, it's what you and what I love about it, you're still the same Turker Carlson. | ||
| You're a hell fellow well met, you're a nice guy. | ||
| You haven't become cynical, you haven't become nasty. | ||
| And people don't, I think, realize all the pressure under, but you're one of the leaders in this country, and we're getting to a better place. | ||
| We're getting towards that sunlit uplands because guys like you are at the lead, the tip of the spear in this fight. | ||
| Well, thanks. | ||
| Well, my wife doesn't even know what happened, so it's in my house. | ||
| It's not even real. | ||
| Steve Bannon, great to see you, man. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Really want to thank Tucker Carlson's team uh for doing that. | ||
| Also for putting up clips. | ||
| Uh, Grace and Mo are going to have clips or take clips yourself. | ||
| Uh, we would love to have you push this out, particularly clips of this to make it already gone viral in many aspects, but we'd love to have you take your favorite clips and go ahead and send it out. | ||
| Um obviously, we're gonna be drilling down on these themes in the days and weeks ahead, uh, particularly the escalation of violence going up the escalatory ladder of radical democrats and people trying to destroy this country. | ||
| Also, the fact that we've got to make sure that we keep our eye on the prize here about what is in the basic national security interests of the United States of America. | ||
| And we have to do that every day. | ||
| We cannot allow the Israel First crowd to come back in any way. | ||
| They've already done enough destruction of this country and Israel uh to suit several lifetimes, so we can't allow it to happen. | ||
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