Oct. 15, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| No, there's actually nothing more American than a No Kings rally, if you think about it, because this country was born out of the rejection of the monarchy, the rejection of of of a country, frankly, that is ruled by one man as opposed to a country of laws, like the declaration of independence in this country was not just uh about it was it was not just about taxation, it was also about principle. | ||
| And that is what the No Kings rally harkens back to. | ||
| Let me just be clear as a re as a fellow Republican, this is not a hate America rally. | ||
| This is a rally to deal with the fact that Republicans want to create a king, a kingship in Donald Trump. | ||
| And I reject it as a lot of Americans do. | ||
| So let's be clear on the crap that you're laying out there, because you can word smith it and talk it all you want, folks, but the reality remains that this rally this weekend is because of what this president is doing and what this president has done to fellow citizens, which as a member of Congressman you think you'd give a damn about. | ||
| These Bible believing Christians for generations for centuries uh is now being twisted for political means. | ||
| Well, I hate to tell you, but it kind of always has been. | ||
| Going back to the time when the Roman Empire decided to take this uh peaceful uh missionary of uh of a Jewish faith healer and use it to be an imperial religion that waged war on pagans and Jews and Muslims in the Crusades, and Christianity has been used to justify all kinds of authoritarian atrocities, and at the same time, it's always always been the Christ followers who have pushed back against the authoritarian Christians. | ||
| When you saw the Crusades, you had St. Francis of Assisi quitting the battle and preaching peace when you saw the doctrine of discovery and Columbus massacring the Taino people. | ||
| It was Bartolomeo de las Casas, the priest on his final voyage, who protested the first act of protest by a white person in this hemisphere against the treatment of indigenous people when Christianity propped up slavery. | ||
| It was the Christ followers like Frederick Douglass and the Quakers and Harriet Tubman. | ||
| I mean, this goes through segregation, through homophobia, through labor rights. | ||
| You had Dorothy Day and Catholic charities fighting for an end-to-child labor and uh well weekend and like millions, I was raised believing Christianity was about the stuff Jesus talked about, uh service, humility, putting the last first, fighting for the marginalized, forgive your enemies, turn the other cheek. | ||
| He wasn't really about total right wing domination of culture and politics and the local school board, not a big guy about power. | ||
| So many millions feel they've grown up to see this movement of love hijacked by a mean tax-free click that is not about the teachings of Jesus, but it's about right wing Christian domination of culture, right wing power. | ||
| Not about the commandments of Christ. | ||
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If there's rules in the department about how to bring a case, follow those rules. | |
| You can't say, I want this outcome, let me throw the rules out. | ||
| Um that's why you frankly you see all these conflicts between the career apolitical prosecutors I worked with. | ||
| I get very concerned when I see how easy it is to demonize these people for political ends, uh, when these are the very sort of people I think we should be celebrating. | ||
| Uh the people on my special counsel team were like that. | ||
| The idea that politics played a role in who worked on that case or uh who got chosen is ludicrous. | ||
| Joyce, I know he's choosing his words carefully, but is Jack Smith warning us about what the DOJ is currently being turned into. | ||
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Well, look, I think everybody is issuing that warning this week from all different fronts. | |
| Chris Christie did it earlier today. | ||
| Um it's coming from all sides of the political arena. | ||
| But Jack Smith, I think is making the point that we would expect to hear from a career prosecutor. | ||
| And what he's saying is, you may not believe it in this day and age, but there are prosecutors at the Justice Department who don't care about politics. | ||
| These are people of integrity, they work cases based on only on the facts and the law. | ||
| They don't let other considerations enter the equation. | ||
| And so we can have confidence when they make decisions about whether cases should be indicted or not indicted. | ||
| What's wrong here and what we need to really reject is this idea of political prosecutions made by people the president has dropped into office. | ||
| Drunk by this entire interview, frankly. | ||
| I think Jack Smith, he wasn't defending the bureaucracy, if you will, throughout this conversation. | ||
| What he was really talking about was foundational to our democracy. | ||
| And this assertion that the rule of law should define whatever order is. | ||
| and and how the people within the Department of Justice comport themselves, not whatever the president or anybody else would like to think should be. | ||
| Your take. | ||
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Yeah, no, absolutely. | |
| You know, one thing that came through in Smith's conversation was he kept going back to this idea of process. | ||
| And it was processed not for process's sake, but it's because the rules and regulations that we have in the Department of Justice, make sure that decisions aren't made for political reasons, but are made because of the facts of the law. | ||
| You know, one of the things, you know, I frankly kind of found it a little moving to hear Jack Smith talk. | ||
| You know, most of us kind of only know him through still images in newspaper articles or you know, prepared remarks. | ||
| You know, seeing him speak extemporaneously about the Department of Justice's processes and about its values. | ||
| Um, just sort of in just enormous contrast to what this administration does and the people who lead it. | ||
| I I found myself very moved and very saddened by our current moment. | ||
| And you go to the heart of the New Testament where the disciples ask Jesus, who are we to love when Jesus says you're not only to love your enemies, you're the you know, you you need to love your neighbor as yourself. | ||
| And then the disciples say, Who are our neighbors? | ||
| And Jesus, what does Jesus do? | ||
| He tells this story of the good Samaritan, the good Samaritan, of course, uh the a Samaritan, the most hated. | ||
| He was the minority you were allowed to hate back then. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He was a minority you were allowed to hate. | ||
| And when a Jewish priest walked by, he didn't help the beaten Jewish man. | ||
| When when when other travelers walked by, it was the Samaritan. | ||
| It was the Samaritan who helped the Jew the beaten Jewish man. | ||
| And not only that said, took him to and said, take care of him, I'll be back, and I will pay you for whatever expense. | ||
| It is what we're seeing today is the antithesis of that lesson and the heart of the gospel of Jesus Christ. | ||
| It just is. | ||
| If you read the red letters. | ||
| He deliberately makes a religious authority, the bad guy in the story, and the despised foreign minority are allowed to hate, is the hero of it. | ||
| But I go even beyond that. | ||
| Look, I I I'll I'll be the first to say I'm not here calling for amnesty or open borders. | ||
| That was Ronald Reagan. | ||
| But it's the criminalization of migrants, calling them illegals. | ||
| I call them Christian refugees, because it infuriates the right people. | ||
| But go by the Bible. | ||
| God of the Hebrew scriptures commands the Israelites to welcome the stranger and says you must treat the alien as one of your own. | ||
| And Jesus goes a step further in Matthew 25 and says, individuals and nations will be judged, heaven or hell, by how they take care of the poor, take care of the sick, our kind to prisoners, and welcome the stranger. | ||
| Jesus doesn't say nothing about screaming at women outside clinics or being mean to the trans kids. | ||
| It's how you welcome the stranger. | ||
| So I wrote this book as a guide to ask your right-wing uncle, why should I listen to you and Donald Trump on this and completely reject God and Jesus? | ||
| I didn't write it. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not gonna stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| It's Wednesday, 15 October in the year of the Lord 2025. | ||
| Um I I've kind of come to the conclusion that between uh the RAV team in Denver and my own team in the um in the war room production, we could just have an entire show on the cold open. | ||
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The they're so ridiculous. | |
| Um I don't even know where to start there, so I'm gonna get John Solomon in here to talk about real news, but I guess my recommendation for the three-state solution that we need a Christian state in the holy land has got them all worked up. | ||
| Now they get this book, uh, I don't know, about Christianity and hate, Christians hate on everybody. | ||
| Um And of course, the Reverend Scarborough. | ||
| Did he just blame it all on the Jews? | ||
| I'd kind of confused about his what the Reverend Scarborough, who I've loved getting morning teachings from. | ||
| I kind of was lost about his reference there. | ||
| But we'll get back to that. | ||
| We're gonna dig down on it, we're gonna drill down on this. | ||
| John Solomon, I don't know what I like more. | ||
| Joe Scarborough teaching uh teaching us about the New Testament, or Jack Smith. | ||
| No, Jack Smith and Andrew, you're about to drop a bomb here. | ||
| Or Jack Smith and Andrew Weissman, who for some reason thought it was great to go for, I think two-hour live interview between each other, lecturing Scarborough lecturing you about Christianity, or Andrew Weisman and Jack Smith lecturing you about the rule of law. | ||
| It it's it's so pick 'em, right? | ||
| It's the they're both amazing and insane. | ||
| But you've got the price is so I want to talk about all those uncuous guys up there about the rule of law, no kings, Donald Trump authoritarian. | ||
| And this just shows you Trump can be pre could bring peace to the entire world. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| There's nothing he can do, folks. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| He brings he brings peace, the framework for peace in a cockpit they've been fighting for 3,000 years of these ancient vendettas, even before the birth of Christianity, even before the birth of Islam, right? | ||
| Those guys have been over there getting it on, and he brings a framework for peace. | ||
| He's back, and all they're doing is ripping him to try to get mains of people down in the streets on Saturday for no kings. | ||
| I want to tell you, but you've you've got reality. | ||
| Tell me about reality because it's so jaw-dropping, you're so gobsmacked off this story you're about to reveal. | ||
| It's up on just the news that people are just sit there going, this whole system's so corrupt. | ||
| I don't even know where you start bringing it down. | ||
| John Solomon, what do you got for us today? | ||
| Yeah, well, first that open sizzle was fantastic because it reminds us that news shows have stopped being about news and about proselytizing and about propaganda and about disinformation. | ||
| Uh I thought it was a brilliant open today because it shows me I I don't watch our shows anymore. | ||
| I didn't realize how far down the slope they've gone. | ||
| But they're they're not new shows anymore. | ||
| They're just propaganda. | ||
| Just crazy. | ||
| And uh I don't know if I feel good about about hearing that, but it was worth watching, I'll tell you that. | ||
| Um let's give you some real news. | ||
| Let's give you something that matters. | ||
| It matters just civil liberties. | ||
| All right, we know uh about the intrusions that the NSA program had on our private phone conversations. | ||
| We know about these senators a couple weeks ago that we broke the story about whose phone records were being rifled through by the FBI, eight senators, one House member, all Republicans. | ||
| But there is a far larger dragnet sweeping up Americans' phone records uh in the name of investigating January 6th. | ||
| It turns out that the January 6th Democrat Select Committee uh actually gathered 30 million lines of phone records. | ||
| That is a monstrous amount of phone records. | ||
| Basically, according to the FBI document that I was allowed to see and write about, uh, it was every phone call coming into the switchboard of the Trump White House. | ||
| Now, you wouldn't need that to solve anything in January 6th, but you would need it if you were trying to figure out who was MAGA and who wasn't MAGA in America, who was calling the White House and who wasn't calling the White House, who was getting past the switchboard to the internal lines, meaning the insiders, the people that had access, the people who might talk to a president or his staff. | ||
| That is not a legitimate function of congressional oversight. | ||
| But Congress used a subpoena, and the phone companies just burped them up and turned them over. | ||
| 30 million lines of data. | ||
| I think this will become one of the greatest civil liberty uh stories that we've had in our lifetime because now we know it wasn't just eight lawmakers, it was a monstrous body of documents, basically looking at anyone that was having contact with the Trump White House. | ||
| Now, let's take it a step further. | ||
| They finished this work in 2022 because Democrats get thrown out in the election. | ||
| A year later, they're trying to give it to the FBI, who could never get this amount of phone data themselves. | ||
| It's too broad. | ||
| And they're trying to slip it to him on the eve of the 2024 election. | ||
| That is not only civil liberties, it's a politicalization of your or my phone data. | ||
| John, hang on for one second. | ||
| I just want to hold you through the break. | ||
| I know you uh you're working on some things. | ||
| That's why you're there early. | ||
| Normally do you a little later on the show. | ||
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Um folks. | |
| This shows you what the uh the this audience was worked up about from the beginning. | ||
| This is what happens when you have Liz Cheney and Kinziger and these collaborate, they're collaborators. | ||
| They're just like Vici France, right? | ||
| They're collaborators, just like um the guys in Norway and WW2. | ||
| The Quislings. | ||
| The collaborators. | ||
| This is so jaw dropping stunning. | ||
| And then it's gone this long until we finally had a revelation through John Solomon by essentially, I guess, whistleblowers or people inside the apparatus that are just saying we can't hold this back. | ||
| And you see, in doing it, how they tried to weaponize it, having stolen the 2020 election from Trump. | ||
| How they were going to use all of this from J6, everything they could dredge up to use it against Trump in 24. | ||
| Jack Smith and uh Weissman. | ||
| Uh suck on this. | ||
| I mean, this shows you the criminality, the criminality of the various branches of the executive branch under Biden, and also the criminality of Pelosi and that whole crowd over at the House. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| John Solomon on the other side. | ||
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I got American faith in America's heart. | |
| Here's your host. | ||
| Stephen K. Matt. | ||
| John Solomon's with us. | ||
| John, I I want to I want to if you can just hit replay on the scale of this and how they later tried to weaponize against President Trump. | ||
| But I just want to remind people, I don't talk about my case. | ||
| Um on the show. | ||
| Uh I've filed uh for cert to the Supreme Court, and one of the aspects I've argued all the way through is that this was not a uh construction. | ||
| The construction is committee was unlike anything they'd ever done in the history of the House. | ||
| You didn't have a ranking member, and you didn't have minority counsel. | ||
| And the reason that's important is that you get all the this is why the thing we didn't get any of the witness tests, you couldn't cross-examine, you didn't get any the testimony beforehand. | ||
| But if you had had that, John, it'd have been impossible to do what they did because the ranking, if because the minority council would have blocked it. | ||
| They would have said that's impossible. | ||
| So this is the problem with having a fancy closing running. | ||
| And by the way, yeah. | ||
| And Cheney, Chaney, Liz Cheney's out of Congress, Kissinger's out of they're all out, they're all exposed. | ||
| They don't have the debate clause right now to protect them. | ||
| Am I correct on that? | ||
| That's really important. | ||
| Let me just walk you through a quick timeline. | ||
| So the committee gets up and running in 2022, they go out and get this massive dragnet of phone records, 30 million. | ||
| You don't need 30 million phone calls to figure out what was going on January 6th. | ||
| What were they doing? | ||
| They were mapping the MAGA movement with every piece of data they could. | ||
| It was basically creating an enemies list. | ||
| That's what the J6 committee was doing in this project. | ||
| And think about the scope and scale of what they've now done. | ||
| 30 million lines of phone records trying to figure out everybody who talked to the Trump White House. | ||
| Uh, 92 groups, including Charlie Kirk's TP USA and everybody else in the conservative movement, eight members of Congress in the Senate, one member of the Congress in the House. | ||
| They were mapping an enemies list. | ||
| This was an investigation purportedly to solve what happened at the Capitol, that instead was trying to figure out who are the movers and shakers in the MAGA movement that we can stop in 2024. | ||
| Now that plot gets stopped by the American people in December 2022 because uh Americans choose Republicans, Republicans come in, the Democrats get thrown out of the house. | ||
| A year later, when Adam Kinzinger is no longer a member of the committee, he's no longer a member of the House. | ||
| He no longer has protection of the speech and debate clause. | ||
| He's calling up the FBI and trying to give them these records, which by the way, the FBI would never have been able to get this large a swath of records. | ||
| It's just too broad a request, right? | ||
| It wouldn't be a legitimate investigative need for that many records. | ||
| He's trying to say, hey, I don't know, but let's just get them to you guys. | ||
| He's making that call in December of 2023, four years after most of the cases have already been brought in January 6th. | ||
| Why is he doing that? | ||
| He's not doing it for some legislative purpose. | ||
| He's not doing it for some criminal purpose because J6 is mostly solved by that point. | ||
| He's doing it to try to give the FBI FBI one more piece of weaponry to stop Donald Trump from winning the presidency in 24. | ||
| That's what is so concerning. | ||
| It's a civil liberties violation that then gets politically weaponized by offering it to the FBI. | ||
| John Solomon, your story's up on just the news. | ||
| Where can people go to get the show, podcast, all your information? | ||
| Because this is about to this is exploding even as a lot of people. | ||
| We got more comments. | ||
| We got an interview today with Cash Patel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We got an interview with Cash Patel today. | ||
| We're going to ask him about this. | ||
| It'll be on at 6 o'clock. | ||
| I'm lucky enough every day to follow you on Real America's Voice, Justin News, No Noise, 6 o'clock, and then Jay Solomon reports on all social media platforms. | ||
| John Solomon, thank you so much. | ||
| Massive story. | ||
| Thanks, my friend. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| So folks, this is why you can't take him seriously. | ||
| When when you got Weissman and you got Jack Smith, of course, Mike Davis, the viceroy is on a tear right now. | ||
| He's from Obama to Hillary Clinton. | ||
| He's just telling him lawyer up. | ||
| You're all criminals. | ||
| You're all going to prison. | ||
| And uh, I mean, he's he's pulled the pin on the hand grenade and rolled it under the tent. | ||
| Uh he's he's a man on fire. | ||
| Uh I've got Barris here. | ||
| Barris, I got a bunch of things in polling to talk to you. | ||
| But Charlie Kirk, and in the memory of Charlie Kirk, yesterday, I thought a very simple and powerful uh ceremony to award Charlie Kirk, the presidential medal of uh of freedom, the highest civilian award that we could possibly give. | ||
| But I've talked to you and Pesobic and a number of people, you know, before the ceremony and then after. | ||
| I want to make sure Charlie Kirks needs to be remembered as a one, a Christian martyr. | ||
| And number two, as a casualty of war. | ||
| This the we're now it's the clause claw. | ||
| I've turned Clauswitz a little bit on his head. | ||
| Narrative war goes to kinetic war. | ||
| Is a kinetic war is a is a furtherance of narrative war by other means, like Claus Fitz's old saying about politics and war. | ||
| And Charlie Kirk is a casualty of the war. | ||
| He was assassinated. | ||
| And I don't think anybody in this audience right now is comfortable. | ||
| I'm not, and I don't think our audiences, I don't think you are with even where this investigation's going. | ||
| Um give me a uh a minute or two on that on Charlie Kirk and his place in modern American history, and is it just as some activist that was trying to have debates with kids, or is he a casualty of the war and the civil war that we have in the United States and the Christian West right now? | ||
| You know, Steve, thanks for having me on. | ||
| Um there was a beautiful ceremony, and he deserved every bit of it, plus more. | ||
| I mean, it's impossible to overstate how important Charlie was to the MAGA movement and the resurgence that we're seeing in this country right now of American values and and Christian beliefs. | ||
| Uh, you know, just as a side note, Charlie, you know, I would come on your show. | ||
| We would always talk about how you know MAGA is younger, it's more dynamic, it's more diverse. | ||
| Charlie is one of the few people in that in this movement who really got it. | ||
| When I would go over polling data with him, he really got it, Steve. | ||
| And he understood um why these things were happening. | ||
| He was immensely important. | ||
| And and to that, you can't overlook uh the role that he played and his assassination and say that this is sim, you know, political discourse. | ||
| Uh after his assassination, it's not done yet, but I'm gonna tell you something right now. | ||
| That's just this problem of political violence is much worse than we thought, even before we engaged in this study, uh, which really is in honor of Charlie. | ||
| This is not normal political discourse. | ||
| This is Charlie is a casualty of war. | ||
| This isn't a bunch of losers who are sitting home on Reddit and Blue Sky, you know, talking stupid about uh what they think should happen in their political opponents. | ||
| We just spoke to a 32-year-old woman who works for one of the biggest financial uh institutions in this country who told us that she Charlie had it coming. | ||
| He had it coming. | ||
| They not only don't care, there is a prominent feeling that people deserve to be hurt for their political beliefs. | ||
| This is a war. | ||
| This isn't just a a political debate. | ||
| And it, you know, that when you when you consider all of that in the context of how important his role was in the movement, uh this isn't a murder. | ||
| This is a political assassination. | ||
| This is a political war. | ||
| And honestly, Steve, I mean, I I can't wait to share it with you. | ||
| This is worse than I thought it was. | ||
| I mean, this is not a bunch of people sitting home on Discord saying dumb stuff. | ||
| This is a uh almost mainstream belief in uh among one side in this country that thinks it's okay for their political opponents who they disagree with to be killed. | ||
| That is not the United States of America, folks. | ||
| That's not political disorder. | ||
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I want to go that's war in third world countries, Steve. | |
| No, but it has been the United States in some parts of its history. | ||
| Because remember, the revolution was as much civil war, particularly particularly in the South. | ||
| Particularly in the South, it was as much a civil war as it was a revolution. | ||
| Of course, the civil war, and maybe the 1930s with 20s, 30s when was broke apart, or it had these intense debates. | ||
| Uh, and I say, hey, bring it. | ||
| You're not gonna hug this one out, you're not gonna debate it out. | ||
| It was great having Solomon on. | ||
| Solomon's uh a news hound. | ||
| I mean, John's an investigative reporter, and he's he's buried in like a hedgehog going to going for a thing. | ||
| But to show the cold open, which we do for you every day. | ||
| I want people to know one of the things we do in curating the cold open. | ||
| I try not to go to too many of the more obscure things that we monitor also on the left. | ||
| We try to give you quite frankly, the biggest shows, the ones that have the biggest audiences that have most production value that are there for the Roberts over at uh you know, over at uh Comcast, where they run MSNBC or ABC or CBS or CNN, and you see how radical it is. | ||
| Somebody, John Sama came to remember he's he has not been on the first block in over a year where you normally have John come in later. | ||
| He sees the cold open, which is the audience I was that's just a standard cold open here in the in the war room. | ||
| He's shocked, he's shocked because we are this is not Barris nails it. | ||
| We ain't this is not a political debate anymore. | ||
| You're not gonna change any of those people by debate. | ||
| This is the never the charm. | ||
| This was the charm of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Charlie Kirk, and they assassinated the best of us because Charlie Kirk still believed you could go into that lion's den and you could in free debate about the marketplace of ideas that you could literally change the minds of some of these young people. | ||
| Now, maybe on the margins you can, and Charlie was doing a yeoman's effort, but he's also bringing together people that have been kind of raised maybe as conservatives and fallen away. | ||
| That's to me is power was bringing that back. | ||
| But you're not gonna debate this out. | ||
| This is not a political debate. | ||
| And and you just see how the left works. | ||
| They set up a phoney committee, they had collaborations like Liz Cheney on it. | ||
| They went and got 30 million phone phone records of everybody that called into the White House. | ||
| Why? | ||
| So they could go back and prove the citizens that called in and talked to somebody on the staff or President Trump or whatever, were guilty of a crime and not proving that crime because they got beaten 22 midterms. | ||
| They then had the FB, they then tried to dump it into the 24 election. | ||
| These people are pure evil, and you can't compromise with them, and you can't debate it out, Barris. | ||
| Charlie was trying to reach people before they got to that point. | ||
| And you know, but the it literally, I mean, he had his Asian tour when he was uh his trip over to Asia and when he was coming back, he was getting ready to to uh do a video for my son's friend who loves him and was going to college. | ||
| That's the by the way, the kind of person that Charlie Carp was just because, because I asked him to. | ||
| Uh, but he was getting them younger. | ||
| That's not what we're talking about here, Steve. | ||
| I'm talking about people who are already in immersed in their views, and they're gonna go to work at, you know, uh, these these um financial institutions. | ||
| They're gonna go to work at the Federal Bureau of Investigation, they're gonna go to work at CIA, they're gonna go run for Congress for folks. | ||
| Like, this is what I'm trying to explain to people. | ||
| This is not fringe. | ||
| This is already in the ranks of people who hold immense power. | ||
| Look at the text messages from the attorney general uh candidate for the Democratic attorney candidate for attorney general in Virginia. | ||
| This is what I'm trying to tell you is this is who they are, and you have to respond accordingly. | ||
| Senators and congressmen, Republicans and Congress, their job is to conduct oversight of those those agencies. | ||
| Uh, God forbid, if any of these fanatics end up there, which they have. | ||
| And what have they done, Steve? | ||
| They've done nothing. | ||
| And now look, now look, you just your last segment with John. | ||
| Bears, hang on for one second. | ||
| We'll take a short break. | ||
| Richard Bereson, stick with us. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| Hold on. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K Back. | ||
| I've got two things to do with you, uh, Barris. | ||
| One is I want to this kind of landmark polling study you're doing is coming out next Monday approximately if you can finish it. | ||
| Just once again, give me the themes, because it it's inextricably linked with the service at the White House yesterday in in commemoration of Charlie Kirk's heroism. | ||
| So what are we looking at for next week? | ||
| Well we're trying to do, what we were trying to do was get our arms around this issue of political violence, which is definitely getting worse. | ||
| Uh you you were right. | ||
| I stand corrected. | ||
| There have been times in our history where this has been uh a problem. | ||
| But I guess we lived, you know, we got a little bit complex uh complacent, and we lived in a more stable society where political discourse became the norm. | ||
| And now uh what this study is trying to do. | ||
| It was Fuka is Fukuyama's, it's Fukuyama who dead wrong at the big guy at national review and all that, the end of history. | ||
| The late 1990s, it was the end of history of liberal democracy throughout the world. | ||
| The Chinese China was gonna be great, the Chinese Camus Party was gonna become liberal democrats, the uh uh the world we're just gonna have rational discourse all the time. | ||
| Nothing could be farther from the truth. | ||
| Right? | ||
| This is back, this is the all back to the uh to to Hobbs and uh the Malthusian sir. | ||
| It was ubrus to think that, Steve. | ||
| It was as if we're just exempt from the rules of uh of nature's law out of nowhere, right? | ||
| A human beings have been living by it and breathing by it for thousands of years, and we were gonna suddenly come and upend all of that. | ||
| It's arrogance, it's the height of arrogance. | ||
| Um, but we were trying to get our arms around this. | ||
| And Steve, I at first I thought maybe this is just the the latest manifestation of the phenomena that we see with like mass shootings, right? | ||
| Which was kind of modern. | ||
| It started in the 60s with the University of Texas, right? | ||
| I was wrong. | ||
| This is a I was completely wrong. | ||
| My hypothesis is out the window. | ||
| This is uh much deeper than that. | ||
| It's not, you know, when we're talking about something like that, we're talking about like you know, wayward souls, lost young men who lost their way, so very much the same reasons. | ||
| We see young men joining gangs, looking for something to be a part of. | ||
| No, yeah, that is not what we're dealing with here. | ||
| We're dealing with a complete breakdown in the concept of uh political discourse, you know, you know, calm, decent political discourse. | ||
| And uh it's a bigger problem than I thought. | ||
| So this is gonna be huge. | ||
| It is and and hopefully something good comes out of it. | ||
| That was the entire point. | ||
| The highest interest survey we've we put up for the public polling project, highest interest survey, hands down in the history of the public polling project. | ||
| So it's not even close. | ||
| If you're so hope we can offer if you're following along at home, two of the smartest guys that follow this every day, Mark Mitchell and Richard Barris are coming at it in slightly different angles, but it's about a fourth turning. | ||
| Gosh, where did we hear that before? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe it was Bannon's 2010 film, the four. | ||
| Yeah, but there was hang on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because folks, this is evident. | ||
| And I don't have time today, but I'm gonna get you back on because this ties to it. | ||
| The fantasy among New York elites, both conservative and liberal, both Christian and Jewish, that are in a fantasy land about mom Donnie and the ability to defeat him, the development to oh, if he takes it over, it's just gonna be socialism. | ||
| You are dead wrong. | ||
| It gets to the core of Marxist, the way Marxists is trying to destroy our society. | ||
| Communism failed the economics, but Marxism lives and thrives in the modern world, coupled with radical jihad. | ||
| So I'll get you on the next couple days because I this is a perfect segue to my next guest. | ||
| Richard Barris, where do people go? | ||
| What are your coordinates, brother? | ||
| Best place is uh locals, people's pundit.locals.com, but we're everywhere else on Getter at People's Pundant on X at People's Underscore Pundit, but locals is it Peoples Pundit.locals.com. | ||
| Thanks, Steve, as always. | ||
| I'll see you soon. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Great work. | ||
| Mitchell and Barris have come to the same conclusion on the dad they're looking at, folks. | ||
| So Chip Roy's gonna join me. | ||
| I've got we're gonna do two things. | ||
| The sublime, you know, the sublime and the less sublime. | ||
| We're gonna start with just the the practical, what we have to, we need to talk about the shutdown and the uh and the Schumer shutdown. | ||
| Uh, but Then we've got to get into Sharia law and this neo-Marxist uh Sharia law supremacist revolution that's before our eyes and about to take over the financial capital of the world, and they're gonna turn it into worse than London. | ||
| We we warned about Sadiq Khan years ago, Raheem Kassam, myself, the others that were working in Europe and working on this London situation, the British about Brexit. | ||
| We saw this coming, and it's gonna be so much worse here. | ||
| Unless we get a cold open for Chip, let's go ahead and play it and bring Chipper in. | ||
| Katie, I need to watch Groundhog Day, the movie, because that's exactly where we are. | ||
| Every single day, Mike Johnson holds a news conference and blames Democrats for the shutdown because they did block this clean funding bill and says he's not gonna negotiate with them on anything until the government opens up. | ||
| And then uh, you know, he has a conference call with House Republicans who all back him up on a strategy to keep the House out of session. | ||
| They've been out of session, I think, for 25 days now, unprecedented in my time cover in Congress to be out this long, especially during a shutdown. | ||
| And then Senate Democrats blocked the bill again in the Senate, which is gonna happen again tonight. | ||
| Republicans block the Senate bill and the government remains closed for yet another day. | ||
| I mean, uh, just let's pull back the camera for a second. | ||
| The White House is making this is making it easier. | ||
| Okay, uh Jake Sherman's right there, and he goes on and on and on. | ||
| But uh Chip Roy, you if they make payroll today for the military, and my understanding is they feel they can make payroll on the 30th. | ||
| I mean, it's America the polling is the polling is Mark Mitchell's got right track, wrong track, it's a 10-point pickup and right track. | ||
| The Schumer shutdown is a catastrophic failure for the Democrats, sir. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| First of all, let's rewind the clock a year. | ||
| Uh uh when President Trump was gearing up to win last November. | ||
| A lot of us, including our mutual and good friend Russ Vogt over at OMB and others were planning how this year would unfold. | ||
| We rightly predicted Democrats would want to try to make a political shutdown occur this fall. | ||
| So that was a big part of what we were doing in the big beautiful bill, which you and I both said, hey, it could be better here, it could be better there. | ||
| But we delivered and we worked together with the president to deliver what I think is a bill that set the stage for this, because we have 150 billion dollars in there for defense, so we could use that and use other money that Russ and his team are doing right now to move money around to be able to pay troops, right? | ||
| So now we've got a situation where we're ahead of the curve. | ||
| We're doing the work the American people sent us to DC to do, but Schumer and the Democrats, Hakeem Jeffries, are shutting the government down for purely 100% political purposes because they have nothing else to run on. | ||
| President Trump is leading, going around the world, kicking butt, you know, doing great things overseas. | ||
| President Trump gets on a plane, flies back, does the event with Charlie Kirk yesterday, memorializing a great American hero. | ||
| We're delivering on everything we said we would deliver on and more, and the Democrats have nothing left to do, but basically they're out of ammo and they're just pulling their magazine out and they're throwing it. | ||
| And that's what the American people are seeing. | ||
| So I think the right track, wrong track uh will go in our favor if we hold the line. | ||
| And I want to give credit to the speaker, credit obviously to the White House and the president for holding the line here. | ||
| Uh and we just got to hope hope that Senate Republicans hold the line. | ||
| We've got some of them getting a little weak kneed over there who are complaining that, well, we might need to go cut a deal or something like that. | ||
| Democrats are the ones who walked away from the table. | ||
| You and I don't love CRs. | ||
| Posse doesn't love CRs, but we came together, everybody. | ||
| Freedom Caucus, the speaker, everybody in the conference to say, you know what, we're gonna do a short-term CR to November because Democrats were rattling that they wanted a shutdown. | ||
| They own this, it's the Schumer shutdown, they're the ones causing it. | ||
| The president is doing what he can to make sure our troops are paid and that our country continues to move forward. | ||
| Okay, as you remember, Russ Vogt, who's the kind of architect of this, also worked. | ||
| We were already working perturbations. | ||
| When you do this, um, Russ Vogt's got to, you know, he's got he's got plan A, B, C D, he's got all kinds of alternatives for the president. | ||
| These one of the central beating hearts is if the Democrats are gonna do it and kind of walk into a trap, and the American people are either indifferent or blaming the Democrats. | ||
| You can really rev up not a phony thing like Doge. | ||
| You can really rev up deconstruction administrative state. | ||
| And Russ Votes got a big old plan in there. | ||
| Plan A Is a is a drop the bomb on it. | ||
| Now we've had 4500, and the reason is you have the Rhino senators plus the donors all over President Trump with, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you know, don't do anything radical. | ||
| When are we going to get to the point if we can pay the troops today? | ||
| And Besson and Russ can figure out how to, and Pete Heggs figure out how to pay the troops on the 30th. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, it's kind of guns-free in military terms. | ||
| When are we going to unleash Russ's vote on plan A of deconstructing administrative state and really go to, you know, start doing rifts and just pull the court on the rifts, sir? | ||
| Well, uh, I'll obviously let Russ speak to that directly, but I can tell you my conversations, like the White House, they're united on what they want to do, and the Democrats have shut this down. | ||
| Now Russ has the power to prioritize, right? | ||
| That's what this is all about. | ||
| He's got the power to prioritize how we do spending. | ||
| It's why we make sure our interest is covered. | ||
| We're not going to default on our debt. | ||
| Social security payments get done. | ||
| They're moving money around to pay our troops because that's what a responsible OMB director should do when irresponsible Democrats have shut down. | ||
| But the the key issue here to answer your question, Steve, are Senate Republicans. | ||
| Will Senate Republicans continue to stand in the way of Russ being able to do more work, removing these bureaucrats, riffing all of these uh status to advantage, you know, advance this woke agenda that was weaponized against the American people. | ||
| And you know, for example, right? | ||
| I mean, just today, you had a situation where you had a Senate Republican who was trying to work with a Democrat, Mark Warner, on the uh CDFI fund, right? | ||
| Which is one of these funds that was just dramatically woke. | ||
| DEI, critical race theory. | ||
| It was being used for gender ideology, it was being used for illegal immigration, and Russ, on behalf of the president and the administration, you know, uh whacked that funding and and riffed people and pulled back funding from it. | ||
| Yet you've got some Senate Republicans who are going, oh, we can't do that. | ||
| We need this really valuable program, even though it was a corrupt, woke, weaponized program. | ||
| So if Senate Republicans will stay out of the way, then they can keep doing their job. | ||
| And again, they're going to keep all of the services necessary that are constitutional, that are appropriate for people. | ||
| They rely on Social Security checks, our military needs to get paid. | ||
| They're gonna do it responsibly. | ||
| It's President Trump. | ||
| It's Russ vote. | ||
| But these Senate Republicans need to get out of the way and stop complaining. | ||
| That's the roadblock to Russ being more aggressive. | ||
| Your constituents, let's go, and I'm gonna hold you. | ||
| I gotta talk about the Sharia law thing with you. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Your constituents are kind of the heart of the mega base. | ||
| When you talk to them about this shutdown, what guidance are they giving you, sir? | ||
| Well, look, they want to stand behind the president. | ||
| They believe in what the president is doing, what Russ is doing. | ||
| But part of this is an information warfare warfare game. | ||
| To some degree, most Americans, including even my constituents, haven't fully even kind of woken up to that there is a shutdown. | ||
| Their lives go on, right? | ||
| You know, 80% of government's still functioning, TSA is up, everything's kind of happening. | ||
| So they're not feeling it. | ||
| When you get two and four in six weeks in, and now we're getting there, paychecks stop flowing to some people, then there's an impact. | ||
| And but when I talk to people, they say, hold the line, stay the course. | ||
| We didn't send you guys there to just, you know, bow down to Democrats who want to use this to advance what we're gonna talk about in a minute, their radical Marxist agenda. | ||
| That's what this is all about, right? | ||
| It's about funding illegal aliens so they can get political clout. | ||
| It's about using taxpayer money to give them health care. | ||
| It's about giving massive amounts of money to insurance companies to enrich them so they can build their socialist state and make more people and more Americans dependent on government. | ||
| They know that. | ||
| My constituents don't want that. | ||
| They want a limited government, they want freedom, they want to do what Donald Trump is doing. | ||
| They want to do what Russ Vogue is doing, they want to do what we're standing up and fighting for, with the speakers fighting for, and they want us to hold the line. | ||
| And we're we are in the driver's seat if we don't blink. | ||
| And I think that's where they want us to be. | ||
| Well, the blinking is that's what we got to keep the uh the uh milk toast Republicans, certain milk toast Republicans, not all of them, in the Senate, we got to keep in line. | ||
| Okay, hang on for one second. | ||
| Uh, we're gonna stick around. | ||
| We got this neo-Marxist uh jihadist uh Sharia supremacist revolution going on in the United States, the front folks for that or the radical Democratic Party and their media partners. | ||
| But I'm gonna talk. | ||
| We got a couple of instances throughout this country that have to be dealt with and they have to be dealt with now. | ||
| Take your phone at Birch Goldberg, Gold went to 4200. | ||
| Jamie Diamond of JP Morgan, who's no fan of gold, doesn't own it, doesn't believe in it, says, well, I'll hold that for you. | ||
| That's gonna be a gonna be a shocker. | ||
| Vannon at 989898. | ||
| Text it now. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen Kan. | |
| We don't really talk about the price of gold here. | ||
| We try to teach you about the process of and why it's just not a hedge anymore. | ||
| It used to be a hedge, but now it's actually becoming a major asset class for central banks because of buying at record rates in this whole global movement of de dollarization. | ||
| And um in money center banks. | ||
| Jamie Diamond, who says he is one of the biggest critics of the rationale for owning gold throughout his banking history, and he's the most prominent banker he runs JP Morgan has for over a decade. | ||
| He said it's in zero hedge. | ||
| I've got it up on Getter. | ||
| He thinks the target price of gold, if things continue to develop, like the like the trade war against China, is $5,000 to $10,000. | ||
| Gold blew through $4,200 overnight. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We told you why that was going to happen a couple of Saturdays ago with Philip Patrick. | ||
| He's going to join me at the top of the hour. | ||
| Birchgold.com promo code banned, the end of the dollar empire. | ||
| Four years we've dropped these things, seven installments over the last four years started when gold was what, $1,100 an ounce? | ||
| $4,200 today. | ||
| Your question is, well, hey, did I miss the move? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Philip Patrick doesn't know, but we've got data and logic that you can make a decision because we're teaching we're not selling your fish, we're teaching you how to fish. | ||
| Philip Patrick in the next hour. | ||
| Okay, so uh Chip, as you know, I'm not a big fan of you leaving Congress, but hey, it is what it is. | ||
| What's gonna happen on November 5th, I think it's November 5th in New York City is gonna be a seismic uh plate shift. | ||
| And it's not this kid's not some fluke. | ||
| This is like Obama. | ||
| This is like Sidi Khan. | ||
| They've been working on this one for a long time. | ||
| And it's not socialism. | ||
| Please get that Alexandra. | ||
| It's Marxism with radical uh jihadist Sharia supremacism, and the the working family party and DSA, they've copied the Trump playbook for the precinct strategy and turning point USA. | ||
| It's all about ground game, it's all about low propensity, low information voters. | ||
| You get those, you win, and you can't do it by TV commercials. | ||
| It's good old-fashioned work, and they're doing it. | ||
| If it was just New York City, there's a problem. | ||
| No, we got in this Idaho, the situation with the Qatar base out there. | ||
| You've also got a bigger issue. | ||
| I hate to say it in the in the Lone Star State, the railhead of the MAGA movement is our problem there is just not Abbott in the rhinos. | ||
| It's deeper than that. | ||
| And right now, you've got a wave of people in investment and people buying land, and it's not the Chinese Cameron's party. | ||
| That's bad enough. | ||
| But it's Sharia supremacists are trying to take over the state of Texas, sir. | ||
| Yeah, Steve, you're exactly right. | ||
| Like, look, this is the fight of our day, and I really believe that. | ||
| And a little aside, you know, yesterday I was at the event at the White House honoring and celebrating Charlie Kirk. | ||
| And the last substantive conversation I had with Charlie uh this summer, uh, besides just back and forth random, you know, text back and forth. | ||
| A substantive conversation was about how we, our conservative movement, uh, all of us do not yet embrace and understand the extent to which we have a war being waged against us by radical individuals, jihadists, adherence to sharia, and it's happening right now, every single day, and we're asleep at the switch. | ||
| And he spoke out about it. | ||
| I'm speaking out about it. | ||
| I introduced legislation last week called the preserving a sharia free America Act to prevent people from being able to come into the United States fully vetting. | ||
| And if you're bound to it be an adherent to Sharia that you need to be removed because it is antithetical to our constitution, antithetical to the declaration. | ||
| It is against the rule of law in the United States, and it undermines Western civilization. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Texas is ground zero. | ||
| There are more mosques that are being opened in Texas every day than any other state in the Union. | ||
| We have this East Plano Islamic Center that's 400 acres that the legislature is trying to stop from being a you know sharia-oriented, you know, kind of Muslim-only community, but they're really not. | ||
| I mean, they're gonna continue to develop it, and it's gonna continue to be predominantly, if not entirely, Sharia adherence. | ||
| You have what you see happening in Dearborn, you have what you see happening in Minneapolis, and now you rightly raise the flag about what's happening in New York. | ||
| It is a coordinated plan. | ||
| And look, I had a conversation yesterday with a guy who is a Muslim who is fully on board with this bill because he understands that political uh nature of Islamism, Islamists, Sharia adherents who want to basically destroy everything about Western civilization. | ||
| If we don't realize that, if we don't combat it, we're going to lose our way of life. | ||
| It is arguably the number one issue we need to address. | ||
| And that's one of the biggest reasons that I am leaving Congress to go back to Texas to be attorney general. | ||
| We've got to fight it, and we got to fight it in our communities. | ||
| And if we don't fight it in Texas, we're not going to win it in America. | ||
| When you see Mondami, he's the poster child for the successes, just like Sadiq Khan. | ||
| They graft onto this this radical uh neo-Marxism or Marxism. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's not communism, it's Marxism. | ||
| And to it, the last numbers I saw in New York City had uh over, I think Jewish for 40% of Jewish voters are going to vote for Mondami. | ||
| And I think something like 60% of kids, Jewish kids under 30. | ||
| This guy is this guy is a radical jihadist in a Sharia supremacist with his money coming from places we have no earthy idea. | ||
| This is going to be, and I conservative and they're going, oh, he's a socialist, we want him to take charge. | ||
| No. | ||
| Once they grab it, just like in London, they change it and they don't give it up. | ||
| And you got to go in with a trenching tool and dig them out. | ||
| You're just not going to sit there, some election a couple of years on. | ||
| This is why Trump said yesterday, not me, the president of the United States. | ||
| He says, hey, look, if that guy wins, I'm cutting off federal funds to New York City. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
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President Trump understands the threat here. | |
| Yeah, if you look at what's happened in France and in the UK, right? | ||
| That is a preview of what's coming to the United States. | ||
| You don't have to wait for it, right? | ||
| I've already mentioned Dearborn, I've already mentioned Minneapolis, Texas. | ||
| But you've got 10% of France that is now Muslim. | ||
| You've got 7% of the UK and growing. | ||
| They now have enormous positions of power in the various elected jobs and elected officials throughout the UK and France. | ||
| Mosques that are now growing at pastor rates and churches. | ||
| It is purposeful. | ||
| It is happening. | ||
| And the only reason it hasn't happened faster here in the United States is the ocean, because you've got a bunch of, you know, frankly, weak Republicans and weak people who are hiding behind the First Amendment. | ||
| How many? | ||
| Which has nothing to do with this politics, political, as you say, neo-Marxist political effort. | ||
| It is Islamism and Marxism, and they want to destroy everything good and great. | ||
| So hang on. | ||
| So you've got so hang on. | ||
| So you've got you've got 150 co-sponsors right now. | ||
| I'm correct. | ||
| Is 150 co-sponsors already? | ||
| No, no, but I've got about 20 or 25 and growing, but we need to get 150. | ||
| You're joking. | ||
| I can tell. | ||
| But we need we need more. | ||
| Okay, we're gonna have you back on a drill down on this. | ||
| Uh, where do we're your coordinates, Chip? | ||
| Where do people get you? | ||
| Yeah, Chiproy T X, C H I P R O Y T X, Chiproy.com is my website. | ||
| Keep at it, Steve. | ||
| We got to keep fighting to uh protect and defend this country. | ||
| God bless you, my friend. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Reverend Hagee years ago nailed it. | ||
| He talked about England and France. | ||
| He said the problem's very simple. | ||
| The mosques are full and the churches are empty. | ||
| He nailed it. | ||
| The mosques are full and the churches are empty. | ||
| And if you go to France or England, some of the most beautiful churches in the world, five people there for service. | ||
| Short break. |
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