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Oct. 13, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4846: Broker Of Peace In The Middle East And Economic Prosperity
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steve bannon
Today mean with the President of the United States about to arrive in Jerusalem on Air Force One to uh meet Net Yahu, welcome some hostages back, and then address the Israeli nation at the Knesset, sir.
unidentified
Good morning, Steve.
Great to be with you.
We are here in Jerusalem on Jaffa Street.
This place is gonna be banging here in a bit.
This is one of the uh sort of most busy places in Jerusalem where Israelis come.
I was reminded this morning, Steve, what a small country this is, and how everybody has been impacted by this.
Uh the camera operator that uh I'm working with this morning.
We were looking at some of the hostages being released, and two and two of the guys are called the Berman twins, and he worked with them before.
Uh and he knows a lot of people in the company that they worked with, very respected guys.
Uh I've got family members who have said the same thing.
They knew people that either got abducted on October 7th or got attacked, or you know, whatever happened.
So it's really, if you want to think of it this way, Steve, it's a family rejoicing for what's happening today.
They're excited to say they're excited to have President Trump is perhaps the understatement of the century.
steve bannon
Jack, uh, you've been on many of these trips with the president.
Uh, you followed this very closely from the beginning.
You and I covered this live on the day that it happened, October 7th.
It was a Saturday.
Uh, your thoughts this morning as we await the president arrival uh on Air Force One.
jack posobiec
Well, Steve, this is nothing short of historic.
The scenes we're seeing are absolutely biblical, and uh there are posters now going up in Jerusalem that I'm seeing uh just go viral on social media saying that Cyrus the Great has returned, and they are referring to President Trump as Cyrus the Great.
I see the the crowds cheering there.
Uh the Persian leader who came in, but also was able to provide peace to this area uh after uh after they viewed him as a liberator of liberating them from the Babylonians and seeing this new covenant, seeing this new deal that is being put in place.
I mean, it's it's nothing short of biblical, it's nothing short of biblical, and I don't know how anyone who's a believer can be watching these scenes, can be seeing this all happening and not uh not going and back and brushing up on our on our old testament.
steve bannon
Uh hang on for one second.
Uh Air Force One has landed, just landed uh in uh in Israel.
You see a guard of honor coming out to meet it.
There's supposed to be a very short, see the uh the um red carpet's gonna be a very short runway.
Let's do we have audio, let's try to pick it.
pick up the music.
unidentified
Nice job.
He's done.
Oh, I think that's a good question.
*Sounds of the wind*
steve bannon
Jack Basobic, that is always put uh the logistics is always brought forward uh on a military plane in advance as the Secret Service sets up for the president's uh travels.
Uh and obviously people in particular audience are quite concerned about the security for the president since you didn't have months to plan this.
You really had very, very this was planned very, very quickly.
jack posobiec
Well, Steve, that's right.
So the Beast and actually there's a pair of uh limos that will travel ahead of the president.
They will fly on military aircraft.
And prior to the president arriving in any region, particularly a region such as the Middle East and CENCOM, uh, you've got you're gonna have teams in military, you're gonna have special forces that are be going out, they're gonna be sighting in on those locations, they're gonna be finding where the closest hospitals are, they're going to be finding where uh the routes are for various medical facilities, as well as making sure that the president's entire military and security team is there on site at all times.
unidentified
That would be fun.
Then here's fine.
Oh yeah.
steve bannon
Let's try again.
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steve bannon
Perfect.
Um people in the United States have been quite concerned about the security around all this, and I I'll be honest with you.
I I don't I think this is way too confusing and way too looks like unmanageable.
I I would I I mean, I just think there's too many people around, too much media around.
I I don't get this coming into Israel on the spur of the moment.
Um Joel, you first and then Kurt, but I I I really we're just taking the fee from people, but man, I I just don't that right there look like they're just winging it, they're making up as they go along joint.
Joe Gilbert, uh, your thoughts.
joel gilbert
Yeah, I'm with you.
Uh I'm very nervous when I see that many people crowded around the president from so many different directions.
Uh don't forget a lot of these people uh have weapons that are authorized to have weapons, but who knows if you know somebody has a beef.
Uh, you know, so I I get a little nervous when there's not enough space between the president and and a large crowd.
Um what occurred to me uh just watching this is this whole spectacle is based on uh misunderstanding.
I I recall that uh, you know, I visited Israel and Gaza was a pretty peaceful place at one time.
But uh Israel gave up Gaza to the PLO terror group under the guise of the idea that peace would break out, that all they really wanted was to have their own territory without Israelis, and there would be peace.
And people cheered and they had the square and they sang songs and they danced, and immediately it just fell apart because the Israelis fundamentally did not understand that the uh Islamic world and the Palestinian Arabs did not want uh to accept Israel in in any size or circumstance.
And I believe that attitude remains the same today, and that's what they're going to encounter uh in the future.
Uh but uh it's all a result of this fundamental misunderstanding is why they had the war and why uh Trump is even there today.
steve bannon
Well, you see the outpouring from the Israeli people in the in the square.
Also, the rest of the people at the Knesset uh greeting him were were all smiles.
Uh and I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, president just spent 45 minutes in the in the beast in the car from uh Ben Gurion Airport to the Knesset with Netanyahu.
I mean, they traveled together.
And like I said, like I asked Joe Joel when they started off.
I'd like to be the fly on you know inside the car to hear that conversation.
Clearly, it wasn't uh hail fellow well met.
The president had his game face on when he showed up.
I've seen that look before.
That's not a uh that's not the ebulent, you know, President Trump.
Didn't we got a shot inside the Knesset right now?
Uh but BB clearly was icy, and you said he didn't shake his hand after he signed the book.
He specifically went and shook the was it the speaker of the Knesset's hand uh and uh but pretty evident uh did not turn and and and uh uh you know shake BB's.
I don't want to read too much into that, but it was clearly icy when they got out of the car and got there.
And I think it's because uh BB's not enthusiastic.
This is a this is a catastrophic defeat for the Israel first crowd here.
Tel Aviv Levin and that guy the crowd, I'm sure they're banging their heads on the wall.
It's a catastrophic defeat because they overreached, they pushed this greater Israel project, and uh it came crashing down around them.
As the President of the States, when Bibi decided he already took out the negotiating team for Iran, which we now know he bald faced lied to the American people, and quite frankly, John Ratcliffe, the CIA director, should be pulled hauled before the House about why he went around uh went why he agreed with the Mossad's assessment uh that this thing was days or weeks away from a nuclear weapon when the cabinet minutes in the cabinet debate was released by the Times of
Israel, and they agreed that it was a minimum of two years, of which we said here in the war room.
Um they went to kill the negotiating team that Steve Witkoff was supposed to meet with in Oman that Sunday, and really the hit to tripwire President Trump was Netanyahu without cut you know, without talking to the United States, went and uh did a missile attack into Qatar and uh to take out the negotiating team of Hamas.
I mean, how are you gonna make a deal?
How are you gonna try to get the hostages back with um without doing that?
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on this people.
All these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not gonna stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Warum.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
steve bannon
you you It's Monday, 13 October in the Irving or 2025.
It is Columbus Day here in the United States of America, and we continue our wall-to-all coverage of this uh historic um trip to the Middle East, not just any trip, really the freeing of the Hoshes, all by President Trump, and he is in route, and I think we'll momentarily land Air Force One.
They left about 40 minutes ago, and it's about a 45-minute flight.
Uh, at the um the Red Sea Result uh resort in Egypt, uh, where the nations of the world, I think 50 some days, our 25 nations have gathered, including many of the European powers, France, Italy, the United Kingdom, and others.
Of course, all the prominent Arab nations and Muslim nations.
I think Indonesia's there, Turkey's there, uh, and this is where the deal's gonna get cut.
Something happened today when President Trump was there.
He said the long and painful nightmare of this two-year war is over.
He was very adamant about that.
There we have the live shot uh at the uh at the Seaside Resort.
Um that President Trump is going to speak at that podium.
These are the folks are really putting it together the deal, the money in the security, and uh the Israel first crowd should understand what they've accomplished today, which is a two-state solution.
You're gonna have a proto Palestinian state in Gaza, two million people, they're not going anywhere.
Uh, you're gonna have tens of billions of dollars from the Gulf Emirates and uh or at least from the families that control the Gulf Emirates and Qatar and Saudi Arabia, also in um probably UAE, and uh Turkey is going to provide at least the security guarantee.
Uh we've got a lot to go through.
It's been historic so far.
It's about to, I think even get more historic.
Uh this morning was a little delay.
By the way, President Trump's been hours longer in Israel than planned than the four hours.
He's just now getting to visit the Arab nations.
We're supposed to start hours ago.
That's fine.
We got no place to go and nothing to do except cover this historic day on Columbus Day.
The um there was President Trump, I think brokered a situation where Bibi actually got an invite from Sisi, and you know Sisi's under tremendous uh pressure, the Egyptians, you know, not to be rubbing up on the Israelis, and so he's under tremendous pressure.
I think he actually offered an invitation, but BB waved off at the last second, Netanyahu waved off.
We'll try to get into all that.
I've got Dave Bratt with us.
Uh also Ben Harnwell from Rome.
Want to thank those two guys.
They were there for the morning coverage.
Want to thank Real America's Voice.
By the way, the team in Denver, glad you were paying attention.
That was a great, great, great cold open.
Had the highlight reel.
We didn't really get to President Trump's speech, but we'll do some of that uh in the coming uh in the coming hour.
A historic day.
What's President Trump?
The long and painful nightmare is over.
President Trump also said a number of times today, the war is over.
With the war being over, that means the Greater Israel project is over.
So the two-state solution, what's happening uh as Joel Gilbert so brilliantly laid out today is 100% the result of the efforts of the Israel First Crowd here in the United States, which supported Netanyahu and his overreach.
We're gonna take a short commercial break.
We're going to go back to the Red Sea when we return.
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steve bannon
Okay, welcome.
I want a couple things.
Number one, I really um want to thank, of course, our Denver crew cut just an amazing cold open.
Um today I've got Dave Brett and Ben Harnwell with me this morning, and we're gonna bring them in the second.
They were part of the earlier coverage.
President Trump was supposed to be there for four hours, and it was a pretty tight schedule.
I believe he was there for eight hours.
Number one, he had a huge meeting with uh with the uh families, I think a hundred members of the families of uh of the hostages.
He sat there and just listened.
They had kind of a round table or singing around where people were passing the microphone.
It shows what Kurt Mills calls the empathetic side of President Trump, which uh people that know him know it's quite strong.
It was pretty amazing, and then he spoke, uh, and there were all these speeches.
I mean, Bibi went on and on, and the opposition leader went on and on.
It was I had the speaker of their house went on and on.
I mean, that's all fine.
I realize his story.
But President Trump, here we go, right here, Air Force One coming into Sharma's Sheikh, the uh uh world class resort on the Red Sea.
And uh the security there, you think the security in Israel was high, which it was, but there were parts of the Knesset part that we'll get into that was pretty uh I thought pretty concerning.
There's a resort right there, beautiful shot.
This uh resort is known throughout the world.
Um want to thank Real America's voice, incredible coverage.
And here's the thing.
I had a chance to assess what we did this morning versus uh there's Air Force One, is that beautiful?
Coming in, landing in Egypt right now.
It's old shuttle diplomacy from Kissinger.
Except this deal is going to have amazing um impact on the Middle East.
Unlike Kissinger's back and forth, just uh, which is kind of ridiculous.
The you know, back and forth as a uh like a servant over there.
Um, coverage, quite frankly, was just more serious and more sophisticated than the other channels.
Other channels, a lot of it's pretty infantile.
I realize the hostages are key, and that's a celebratory uh uh thing, but it is that is kind of signal on a day that you ought to focus on uh, or that's really noise on a day you ought to focus on signal because this is massively important, particularly for people who have supported Israel for decades.
You're about to see a two-state solution, a proto-Palestinian state going to be created this afternoon in Egypt with unlimited cash, uh sponsors that have very deep pockets, uh a uh an acknowledgement that the two million Palestinians are not gonna go out to the Sinai Desert to live in tents,
they're gonna stay in Gaza, and the Turks of all people are gonna coordinate the uh Arab nations in some sort of security package or security guarantee, which President Trump, I think, said in his speech, he doesn't think will need to be to happen.
But uh President Trump talked about it as a done deal last night.
Bebe addressed by video, a pre-tape video the uh Israeli people.
He talked about the Gaza part of this being over, but that the war continues.
President Trump when he asked that question on Air Force One on the way over in a gaggle, a press gaggle said no, no, no, no.
Let me be blunt.
Uh the war is over.
And by that, I think he sent a signal to Bibi that uh to Netanyahu that uh the Mer America is not gonna be sponsoring these attacks on the Arab nations or the Persians.
Uh and I think it was a big wake-up call.
Netanyahu didn't look to me.
I mean, his speech, he glazed President Trump for however long it took, 20 minutes.
But uh he was pretty dour during the day, and there's some photos of President Trump and Netanyahu doing one-on-one off to the side in Netanyahu, I think realizes the uh magnitude of what is going down today.
Let me start with uh Dave Bratt.
We got Ben Harnwell.
Dave, uh, you were on uh came on and helped us for a couple hours in the morning.
You know this area, and you also know the pressure that Congressmen have been over.
I mean, President Trump actually, I mean, to the war room, called out Maryam Adelson, the biggest single donor uh to APAC and to these other institutions, and and you know, runs her deal with uh Sheldon Adelson's widow, who's Israeli, uh, and runs it with an iron fist about you will tow the line about Israel, and he called her out right there about being uh Israel first.
In fact, we'll play that clip later.
I was pretty stunned.
I was pretty stunned he did that in the Knesset, but that's President Trump.
Your assessment so far of the eight hours that the president spent uh in uh Israel.
dave brat
Yeah, well, I'll just repeat uh from this morning.
Uh I think we're gonna have a a new level of transparency uh that may compel us to continue the peace.
Uh when you see uh right when the whole world takes a look at uh the war dead, uh the soldiers dead, the innocents going back to their homes, etc.
But then uh what you just said, you know, more sophisticated analysis of what's going on here, and what Trump is really pulling off, right?
Uh we back in the 13th century, we had Islamic scholars, Christian scholars, and Jewish scholars, uh, who pulled together uh a unity narrative uh uh of historic proportions based on human reason.
Uh they you can differ on the religion, and look what Trump is doing here, right?
He calls out and says, uh, you know, we need to follow the God of Abraham, Abraham, he said, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, right?
He's he's Christian.
Uh the U.S. is predominantly Christian, uh, Israel's predominantly Jewish, and then the Middle East is predominantly uh Muslim.
And what's Trump doing?
He's showing you can all get along.
Uh the West is the series of getting along.
We have a constitutional republic in this country.
And so it's very interesting who's blowing this up, right?
The left does not want reason uh to be in charge.
Uh the West, the communists do not believe in reason.
We're still at war, right?
We're still in World War III.
Uh, this part is cooling down, and Trump said this war is done.
Thank God.
Uh, but there's a unity, right?
Israel knows, right?
They're famous Shema, Hero Israel, the Lord our God is one.
Uh, we need to all unite together uh and do business and commerce, and the the count you can debate uh the merits of some of the commerce coming up.
Uh, but that's uh that's the way it should be.
And Trump is is just completely ironic how he pulls this off.
He pulls together the religions of the world uh back underneath the simple reason of you you will get along.
And so for me, that's what sticks out today.
And then in Israel, uh, you know, I it just goes back, uh, you know, Trump's not getting the Nobel Peace Prize, but uh, you know, it it Jesus uh in the in the Beatitudes in the sermon out blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.
And Trump is doing that.
So that's the highest prize you can win.
And uh blessed are the peacemakers, the sons of God.
What does that mean?
It should it means you're sharing in the very identity of God, right?
We're all made in the image of God.
And Trump, he doesn't like to wear religion on his uh sleeve, but today, sorry, uh, Mr. President, you're you're doing a fine job.
Blessed are you, you're a peacemaker.
Uh you're revealing the very identity of God, and so it's just a great day in that respect.
Uh and it it's too reliant on one person.
Uh the church in the U.S. needs to do better, the rabbis need to do better, uh, the Islamic clerics, you gotta do better.
Uh we can all do better, and Trump's leading the way.
steve bannon
Um, you said this morning, I want to make sure we uh emphasize this before we go to break.
You uh you um talked today about transparency, and your point was when we get into the stories of the hostages and how they were inhumanely treated.
And as the press gets into Gaza and see that it looks like Dresden, uh, you're gonna have, you know, um uh Kurt Mill said we're gonna have a cyclone of media narratives coming out of here this afternoon, tomorrow, and the next day.
Um what did you mean by that?
You you said that as something that's almost going to be force accountability on people.
dave brat
Yeah, well, everyone will take that, you know, at first glance and say, well, you know, there's going to be false flag operations, Hamas may blow up a building or a grenade or uh uh an Israeli radical may do something stupid.
Uh but the broader context is we're gonna see uh human depravity, uh man against man uh coming up now.
We have not had us politicos.
We we follow politics every day, but the the mainstream American is now uh gonna for the first time see uh all of Palestine.
They're gonna get a sense of the uh horrific treatment of the Israeli hostages, uh, and it's not gonna be pretty.
Uh, but that very ugliness of human behavior toward each other may compel a peace, right?
And so we're all on our guard.
Uh we all know this is fragile.
We're in the first step.
We're gonna see if there's uh, you know, if they lay down their arms from Hamas and if all the all of the prisoners make their way back, and uh, you know, we'll be going on to step two, three, and four, hopefully.
Uh, but the transparency, I think, is going to reveal to everybody, right?
That uh we we cannot go down this road any further.
It's too far.
steve bannon
Okay, hang over a second, Dave Bret.
Uh Ben Hornwell in Rome.
Want to give a hat tip.
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Um, of course, we had the uh Navy 250.
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Seems longer, by the way, the Marine Corps coming up on the 18th this Saturday, Marine Corps 250, of course, Real America's voice, and the war room recover it wall to wall.
President Trump is now in Egypt, uh, and he is going to address, is going to meet first, and then I think address uh this uh peace conference has come together for the Middle East.
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We're going back to Egypt.
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steve bannon
Okay, right there.
One of the monuments at the um, or should say displays at the uh at the resort momentarily.
We don't control the cameras here, but momentarily uh by the way, it's a world-class resort.
They have peace conferences there, or conferences there all the time, not just business conferences, but things like this.
In fact, they negotiated much of the deal at this uh at this resort uh last week.
This is where uh Jarrett Kushner and Whitkoff, Steve Whitkoff flew to to sit down and actually um negotiate.
And as we said, they had you know all the nations, the Gulf Emirates, Turkey, uh, etc.
And Israel was kind of Ron Durman was there as kind of uh an adieu.
Uh Netanyahu will not be at this conference today.
I think that's quite bizarre that he's a uh a major part of this.
I don't know why that why he's not there, but uh I will tell you not in the room, not in the deal, and this is by far the more important part of the meeting because this is going to lay out actually uh the future of the Middle East.
There's Air Force One at the bottom of the stairs, a uh guard of honor, looks like from the Egyptian military, is there also uh many dignitaries to meet uh the president of the United States.
We're gonna go as soon as he comes down, try to go live to see if there's any microphones and pick up anything that said he he uh worked the crowd, so to speak, when he was there with um when he landed in Israel.
It was uh quite moving.
Uh a very uh simple, but I thought pretty powerful uh meeting greeting for the president of the United States.
Um Ben Harnwell.
The um give me your assessment of the first part of this.
It was eight hours, not four.
The president alone had a one-hour speech in the Knesset, uh, and it was so uh dramatic today about the releasing of the hostages.
Quite frankly, the uh Israel, the outpouring of jubilation uh was something to behold, and I don't think the American media had picked up how important that was to the Israeli people.
Obviously, people came together.
In fact, uh most of the time we had the cameras on uh hostage square and Tel Aviv and Tel Aviv, as uh you know, Joel Gilbert was telling us was like San Francisco.
This is not Trump country, but you saw people with MAGA hats.
You saw many signs for President Trump, and he actually had a couple signs about, by the way, there we are right there, the president of the United States in Egypt.
Let's watch this as he descends to the reception by the Arab nations.
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steve bannon
president with dignitaries right there.
There's General Cisi, who actually the president worked with earlier to get the invitation to get the invitation for um for Netanyahu, which for kind of unknown reasons he did not accept.
I think it would be very important for him to be there today.
The president with uh Egyptian authorities, I think other Gulf nations, this kind of reception, General Sisi, who's the let's call it like it is, military dictator of Egypt, um, is there?
so What I'm amazed at, uh, Brad and Harnwell is the here we go, hang on.
Here's the welcome.
This President Trump in the beast as it's called, with General CC as they head to the resort.
Um, uh Ben, we made a big deal this morning about the Knesset, and it looked like it was a little chaotic when the president arrived, and put together at the last second.
I was quite concerned about the security.
I'll be blunt, and this sh I think shows you the courage, number one, the courage, the physical courage of Donald Trump.
And also um how important this is to him.
Remember Sadat, after signing the uh what the Camp David signed the Camp David Accords or working was with Carter.
He was assassinated at a pass and review of the troops by uh rogue Islamists in the Egyptian military.
So, I mean, right there, I realize the president's gotta come and gotta meet people, but you know, here in the United States, we're most concerned there's a motorcade as it heads to the resort.
We're most concerned about President Trump's safety.
There have been two assassination attempts on President Trump's in the United States.
Now he's in one of the most dangerous parts of the world.
And the thing today in the Knesset was just maybe in the afternoon show, when things calm down, I'll play it.
But it was completely unacceptable.
The kind of chaotic response, and they say, Well, that's how that's how the Knesset is.
It's you know, very kind of like a family argument all the time.
Um but it's just not acceptable.
And even there, right there, given how Rabin uh and uh and Sadat have been assassinating the fa past, because without Trump, we're in the abyss.
I mean, folks, you gotta see what President Trump's doing right now on every different front to return America to her greatness, uh, is unparalleled in our nation's history, except for President Lincoln and General Washington.
That's it.
There we are right there, heading to the uh the conference center at the resort.
Uh President Trump will be out and over there in a moment.
I think he's gonna meet with some people kind of behind the scenes and then uh speak in a while.
Uh Ben Harnwell.
Uh first off, you're just general assessment of the security.
This all got put together last second, and President Trump wanted to do this because he forced everybody, he forced the system.
Uh He forced the system.
Let's make sure we always get the uh we don't need Ben and myself.
Let's make sure we always got the um the motorcade.
Okay, can we get the motorcade?
Standing orders always do the action.
There we go.
Not that I don't like staring at the artist doesn't like looking at Ben Harnwann's new haircut.
Um I guess I guess I shouldn't talk.
I Ben should not be talking about paying for haircuts, right?
Um Ben, your assessment, first off, I'm very concerned, and Brad jump in and I'm very concerned about the security of it.
People are trying their best.
It's put together at the last second.
President Trump is is often wants to do is uh is um you know he says, hey, we're gonna do this, I'm gonna be there when the hostages are released, and you kind of get what you get.
Ben Harnwell first.
ben harnwell
Okay, so look, I just my first want to start off uh bouncing off the feed that we have before us and seeing President Trump descending the escalator.
And I had a uh reminiscence as I was watching this along with the warroom along with you, Steve uh and Dave, uh all of America, all of the world watching this.
I had a reminiscence, and I just want to make a first observation.
Whenever you see President Donald Trump descending an escalator, it is always to put when he gets to the bottom to put both hands out and shake hands with divine providence to shake hands with destiny.
Um because that's the kind of person Donald Trump is.
Um it was like a reflection of of ten years ago, right?
2015 when when Donald Trump descended the golden escalator, and now he's doing that descending an escalator again off Air Force One and changing the course of human history because Donald Trump is a world historical figure.
Um, for the security, right?
Uh as we were watching the Knesset this morning, it looked like a market scene from any city in the um in the in the souk scene in any city in the Middle East.
It was uh it was chaotic, disorganized.
Um, and he's absolutely right, Steve, to say that there was a non-zero risk to every minute Donald Trump spent there uh in Jerusalem today.
Uh a non-zero risk.
And we know we know that there's a lot of opposition to this because astonishingly, and I can't now scratch my head.
Look, I I I first worked in in the the the British Parliament 30 years ago.
Then I spent time in the opium parliament.
I I've I've been around, I've seen a few things.
I have never seen a president of a parliament or a speaker of a parliament tell a full parliamentary assembly in front of the visiting dignitary to behave themselves because protesters will be thrown out.
You know, that kind of message is put up by the by the speaker's office beforehand, isn't it?
Five behavior if I won't bridge descent.
steve bannon
But the reason, Steve, is because that is but hang on, hang don't don't bury the lead.
Because later in the speech, he did have a protest from a member of Parliament, a left wing member who had to be or escorted out with security forces.
Two of them, I was actually shocked he gave the warning, the warning.
And then later on you see that the left-wing guys actually got up and were yelling at Trump at the president of the United States and were whisked away quickly, but uh that's how volatile it is.
When you have members of the parliament are warned publicly in front of the nation, in front of not just the nation but the world.
And this is a guy that's being allowed at, like I said, in in uh in uh in the square and in uh hostage square in Tel Aviv.
That ain't Trump country.
And you've got signs and they're calling him Cyrus the Great.
You've got signs down there saying, you know, basically Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.
He was cheered the other night uh when Whitkoff and Jared got there to address the crowd for the first time.
And Netanyahu's name was booed when Whitkop said, Yeah, by the way, your prime minister had something to do with this too.
It was lustily booed, and Trump in a in a progressive left crowd was uh was lauded, cheered heartily, and then today you had a couple of guys get up, and this is my point about the security thing.
You don't know when it this is a volatile part of the country, and these people they run a little hot, right?
So um it it would that was scary.
And hey, I didn't like the tarmac right here.
I just don't.
I'm reading us President Trump wants to have the big you know reception, and that's great.
But people have to remember uh one of the one of the biggest peace deals ever, quote unquote peace deal ever signed.
I think both participants were were assassinated not too long after, Sadat by his own people and uh It Sakra Bean by you know the kind of the right wing kind of farther right than BB's than Netanyahu's crew today.
So it's something to be uh to obviously be worried about.
Guys, hang on for a second.
We've got the motorcade going.
Are we gonna take a commercial break or below the break?
Yeah, can we blow the break?
Because I think we got uh we got some action going on here.
Ben Harnwell, I took away your microphone.
I'm giving it back to you, sir, for your thoughts.
ben harnwell
Yeah, well, um there it is.
It was a non-zero risk, and we see the level of opposition that is there.
Steve, you've mentioned a couple of times, both in the live show um this morning and also in the morning show now, that the smiles and and and and the goodwill that we saw at the Knesset and in the crowds.
I just want to underline another point that you've also been repeating because it is related that what we are seeing is a controlled feed from Israel.
Um they're pointing the cameras specifically so that President Trump comes out of this with a massive and well deserved feel good factor.
They're not showing us the degree of opposition there.
Uh and that underlines the uh point that we mentioned earlier uh in in the live show uh this morning that um that this is a pr very precarious state to be in.
Um and President Trump has I I mean I hesitate to use the word triumph of the will, but that is exactly what this is.
This is a triumph of Donald Trump will, because he he made this happen with the f with the force of his personality alone, alone and exclusively.
Donald Trump has made this happen because he wanted it to happen.
steve bannon
No, it's uh extraordinary, you're right.
He enforced his will on the situation as only few leaders can do.
Ben, you've used a term that I throw around loosely, but I want the warroom posse to understand what it means.
World historical figure.
Why is that term used for certain individuals like um like uh Napoleon or Churchill or Lord Nelson or you know, a handful of people, Clive of India, a handful of people, uh, and not for others.
So what what does it mean?
ben harnwell
Well, it goes it it's it's Hegel's termination, uh d um term.
It comes from Hegel.
Um, because he believed that that history was driven by specific individuals.
Um call it posterity, call it basically um just the sort of the the power of the individual, but individuals themselves, sp certain points in history have the ability, because factors come together to determine human history by the force of their own personality, by the force of their own charisma, by the force of their own will, by the force of their own power.
They whereas everybody else, when they influence events, it's more because they're there, they're going along with the current, um, and they make a slight contribution, but there were very few individuals that changed the direction of the river by themselves.
And President Trump is one of those.
He's definitely to use hey, I mean, that term did fall out of favor.
Um it became a bit pejorative after the 30s and 40s of the last century.
Um, but I think it's I think uh I think Donald Trump himself has by he by he by what he's doing and what he has done, he has purified the term once again for use because he is a world historical figure.
You name them, you name them people like Napoleon and Churchill or uh and Lincoln, perhaps, um, and Donald Trump in future generations will be recited in in the same in in the same names as as the others, uh as his as the line in which he's continuing in.
steve bannon
By the way, General Washington, it's also though for you know, people like Lenin, it's not lost at Stalin.
They're they're uh certain bad guys, the President of the United States, uh exiting the beast right there at the uh resort of security there, and of course the uh General Sisi, uh the military dictator of um military dictator of Egypt, uh, although he is quote unquote elected right with with ninety percent of the vote in an area of the world that democracy really hasn't taken root that much, as Joel Gilbert said today.
Israel being one of the few places there is a functioning democracy, they don't even make attempt of it in the uh in the Gulf Emirates.
President Trump meeting officials right there, and then we'll go inside.
I think he'll have a um uh a meet and greet or at least a few minutes with officials before the speech.
Like I said, he's running four hours late for this because what happened in uh Israel was so important, and President Trump, kind of the empathetic President Trump, uh sat there for over an hour with uh sat there for over an hour with um with um with the hostages' families.
There we go, right there.
We got uh the uh the advertisement.
President Trump going in, General Sisi.
Dave Bratt, is uh Donald Trump a world historical figure in the Hegelian sense uh philosophy professor, professor of philosophy.
dave brat
Yes, man, har Harnwell's on fire.
I w I want to go back to his non-zero probability comment also.
Uh, you know, I I I don't want to detract from our uh security team over there.
Uh but one madman with a gun, right?
W uh determined to lose his own life, wins.
Right.
All the security experts will tell you that.
And so to have those uh a couple uh leftist freaks in the room in the Knesset uh or anywhere in the line getting off the plane, like you just said, I I find that unacceptable.
Back when I was in Congress, uh people were still uh landing planes, right?
Uh uh model planes, smaller planes in the White House lawn, just to give people an idea, right?
So it's it's not to detract from how great our Secret Service is, uh, but they might get euphoric, sharing the mood, and one second lapse and it's all over.
Then right.
So that the the ceremony's got to take a backseat to the president of the world historical figure.
So let's go there.
Hagel, right, the divine mind.
But I I will correct uh Hegel, right?
Kierkegaard said he would have been the greatest philosopher ever if he would have mentioned God.
But his this world historical mind.
Look at look at where we're at today in the secular world.
All the rest of the world powers never refer to God.
Right?
That's why we are where we are.
The globalists, uh the institutionalists, the deep state, the administrative state, there is no God.
Right.
What's unique about Trump?
He gets in front of Israel, making peace with Muslims, uh, Jewish, Christians, and invokes the God of Abraham.
That is the that he's not only a world uh historical figure, uh, but he's the right world historical figure.
Because it's not about just power, right?
It's power subservient to God's will.
And boy, Trump stands out today, and it's just stunning.
And so A plus kudos to Harnwell uh for bringing up that one.
steve bannon
Uh I I want to develop that for a minute because people, uh the enemies of President Trump and their legion on the left, uh, even those have to kind of shut up today.
Not all of them.
But here's the thing I found so powerful.
Uh obviously Israeli officials are aesthetic for what it got him off the hook.
Uh, they were kind of in a um uh a dead end with uh the hostages not being returned, the nation really turning against them, uh the IDF uh kind of being punched out and not really that excited about going into Gaza.
This whole concept of the removal of two million uh Palestinians out of Gaza never got any traction, was quite frankly kind of looked at as uh as uh just over the top.
So today uh Israeli officials, people in the streets, Trump is Cyrus the Great, Trump is uh fantastic.
You know, Trump could be elected prime minister today over in Israel by people on the left, not just the on the right who have always adored him in um in in Jerusalem, but people on the left.
I found it most uh interesting the President Trump had uh nothing I felt but humility today.
And that shows you real power and it shows you greatness.
He took and remember, he's 78 years old, he's getting off a red eye, no time, you know, he didn't go to a hotel, he didn't sleep in for a couple hours, he didn't, and I know that Air Force One has a compartment for the president and the first lady, has a but hey, it is just a bed on a uh you know the Air Force One is essentially a military command center with a some small accommodation for dignitaries and officials.
Do not think it's that fancy.
The military command center part of it is amazing because it is really a military command center for the president of the United States to go airborne and to be able to be commander in chief in case anything happens.
That's the principal reason for it.
Yes, he does his travel, obviously.
But he gets off this uh after a long, I think eight-hour flight.
I mean, we covered it, we covered it on uh the takeoff, and then covered the landing and did four hours.
And I can tell this audience Dave Bratt, Ben Harnwell, Stephen K. Bannon, our entire young team of 20-year-olds in Denver and uh West Palm and in here in the war room are dead tired and beat.
This guy gets off a plane, there's no break.
He does he does a he and here's what's so powerful.
He spent over an hour with the families of the hostages, and they didn't have TV cameras in there.
This was not something he's trying to exploit for political benefit.
He's he's like he's risen above that.
That's why he is a world historical figure for his actions, but he's also rising to something that's beyond just being a typical politician.
He spent an hour just listening today uh with people that's passing the microphone around, and people giving these heartfelt stories right there.
He's he's with General Cisi, and I'm sure they're gonna have a a private time.
If we can get do we have the audio?
Can we pick that up?
I'd love to hear what they have to say.
We can't get the audio.
They're gonna sit down and have a President Trump doesn't drink coffee, but you're there you'd have one of those Turkish or Saudi coffees that would get you rolling.
Uh as soon as we get sound, let's go ahead and he's got some leaders right there.
He's gonna spend some time.
Let's go ahead and listen in.
donald j trump
You want to have a couple of questions?
We're having an amazing period of time, like I think nobody's seen before.
And uh we had tremendous stuff, as you know, in Israel, and now we're in a country where a friend of mine is a very powerful leader, and my friend is right here, the president, also the general, you know.
Usually I call him the general because he's both, and he's good at both.
And that they've done a fantastic job.
And they have very little crime, you know, because they don't play games, that's why.
They don't play games like we do in the United States with governors that have no idea what they're doing.
But they don't have time.
I ask about crime, and they almost don't even know what I'm talking about.
So it's uh it's a great tribute to this man.
He's done a fantastic job in bringing this country together, and the United States is with him all the way.
abdel fattah el-sisi
Thank you.
unidentified
Okay, all the way, and it's an honor to be with you.
Sir, what will Egypt's role play in the peace process here?
donald j trump
He played a very important role, and they had a very important role with Hamas.
In fact, the the general was uh right here was very instrumental because Hamas respects this country and they respect the leadership of Egypt.
So we had a he played a very important role.
I appreciate it very much.
Thank you.
peter doocy
President Trump in Israel just now you were talking about a possible Iran peace deal.
You said we are ready when you are.
Is that the ultimate goal with today's signing to get not Iran, but but I think Iran will come along.
donald j trump
Uh they've been battered and bruised, and you know, they're they're uh they need some help.
They have big sanctions, as you know, tremendous sanctions.
I'd love to take the sanctions off when they're ready to talk.
But they can't really survive with those sanctions.
Those sanctions are very tough.
But at some point they're gonna say we want the sanctions off.
We're gonna end up with peace.
I think Iran is gonna be fine.
I know so many Iranian people, they're great people, they're smart, great, great people, engineers, lawyers, I mean, they're academics.
But uh the uh they they took a big hit.
And frankly, if we didn't hit them on the nuclear, I don't think you would have been able to have this incredible uh this this deal that's once in a lifetime deal.
Nobody's ever seen it.
They're like what's happening today.
And countries have all come together, all different countries.
Some liked each other, some didn't, most didn't, and they've all come together.
Every country has come together.
And by the way, Iran did put out a statement, you know, that they support this deal very wholeheartedly.
So that was in itself something.
But no, I I think they want to uh that's all I do in my life.
and make deals and they want to make a deal.
unidentified
Mr. President, why do you spread enough weight and how dare to end the rest of the living hostages have been returned?
Can you please tell us what the next steps are?
donald j trump
Well, they're going and looking for bodies, it's a pretty gruesome task, and they're uh they know where numerous are, as you know.
I guess five or six are in yet now, but uh they're looking for bodies, they know the areas and the uh search parties out, and they're doing it in conjunction with Israel, and uh they'll they're gonna be finding quite a few of them.
unidentified
President Trump, you thought that's when phase two of the negotiations will begin.
donald j trump
Well, it started.
I mean, it started as far as we're concerned.
Phase three started, and uh you know the phases are all a little bit mixed in with each other.
They're gonna start cleaning up uh you look at Gaza and it's uh needs a lot of cleanup.
That's why when I talked to my speech, I talked about the debris.
I use the word debris, that's debris times ten.
So uh, but we're gonna they're gonna really do a job.
They have a lot of power in another room.
You have the wealthiest, some of the wealthiest nations in the world.
All leaders, the the big leaders are here, the emirs and the kings and everybody, and it's it's a very interesting group.
I guess we have like 35 countries, and that's only because they were the 35 that we invited.
Everybody that we invited came.
So it's uh there's a lot of respect, and I think you'll see some tremendous progress, both in the Middle East.
Uh this country is doing very well, it has good leadership, it's about leadership, and it's really nice when you say, How is your crime situation?
And they like don't even know what you're talking about.
What do you mean crime?
We don't have crime because if he has crime, he puts it out very quickly.
Some people think that's not nice, but I think it's great because people don't want to be mugged and smashed and they don't want to be stupid people.
They have a place that uh is uh doing very well.
We're very proud of him because we knew each other from the beginning.
The first time I met, it was in a hotel, and I was going to meet him, and then Hillary Clinton was following me.
Remember that Hillary Clinton, and he liked me so much he never even got to see Hillary saw for about two seconds, but he didn't really want to waste a lot of time.
He knew what was gonna happen.
But that was the first time we met, and we had a very good chemistry together, and uh it continues till today.
So I want to thank you all very much.
I appreciate the way you covered the uh this really momentous.
I've never seen anything like it.
The level of love, the level of respect for what it is, and it's you know, it's it's peace in the Middle East that everybody said it's not possible to do, and it's gonna happen, and it is happening as before your very eyes, and that's why it's become so fascinating.
Marco, do you have anything to say?
marco rubio
Egypt's been a phenomenal participant.
I think both Steve and Jarrett will tell you the critical role they've played, and they can tell you themselves.
They hosted the talks here, and they're gonna play a very important role now in the follow-up, the implementation of this, which is really it's not simply about restoring Gaza, it is about transforming the region.
So we have an incredible partner, a long alliance, very capable partner here, and a tremendous collection of leaders.
This is clearly in my mind, I think in the mind of everyone in this room, probably one of the most important days for world peace in 50 years.
That's not an exaggeration.
Only 50, maybe a hundred.
unidentified
Mr. Wickoff and Mr. Kushner, I'm curious you've played such an important role in the tactical negotiations here.
What will your role be going forward as as a lot more has to be brought to the table here?
Oh, the minute uh the minute we had ink the deal, Jared and I were already working on the implementation side of the deal.
So um we're we're dug in, we'll be here quite a bit.
That's at the direction of the president.
That's probably going to be one of the most important phases here.
Uh Jared is remarkable to work with.
I talk about it all the time, and uh, of course we both love working for the president, so it's a uh feels like a very honorable job.
donald j trump
Mr. President, would you like to say something with the interpreter?
abdel fattah el-sisi
I am happy to be with you.
unidentified
I am happy and happy to be with you.
Shut up.
I don't think as a violence.
Well, first of all, we'll excel say I welcome you to eat.
It's a great pleasure and an honor to have you with us here in the city of peace, Sean Shay.
translator arabic
On behalf of all Egyptians and peace lovers around your world, salute the appreciation and respect this unprecedented and momentous accomplishment by us.
I've been very confident that your excellency is the only one who is capable of bringing this about and bringing an end to this war.
abdel fattah el-sisi
What have you remembered?
Sorry for the reason.
The company will then uh send them.
translator arabic
I even said that very precisely during my communication with your next sense.
Yeah, you are the only one who is able to bring about peace and to achieve peace in this part.
abdel fattah el-sisi
Thank you so recognizing the step meeting setting profit to uh with us in the shell to sell it as a wing for Israel.
So it's kind of that for the step and bucking.
translator arabic
Um what we need to do now is to fix the ceasefire and make sure that it uh maintains the states that we uh can deliver all of the remaining the bodies of uh the deceased uh to the families,
and this is very important to bring in more humanitarian assistance into the strip and uh working very closely on following up the rest of uh steps that should be taken to make this successful.
abdel fattah el-sisi
Best of best.
You did very great.
donald j trump
Thank you.
abdel fattah el-sisi
Thank you, sir.
donald j trump
He's a good man.
unidentified
Well, we're the role and will he be on the board of peace, sir.
donald j trump
I'd like to have him on the board.
I'd like to.
We may need an interpreter, but that's OK.
abdel fattah el-sisi
We have a baseball.
unidentified
Well, as long as the President's Excellency can't do better than being with the board of peace, I'll be there.
donald j trump
We've had many uh leaders want to be on the board actually.
The Board of Peace is it's taken on Steve, I'd say a life of its own.
Do you want to discuss that?
What's happened?
unidentified
If you have another, I I think we have a long list of applicants to be on there.
donald j trump
That's very nice.
That's better than the other way.
Usually it's the other way.
Nobody wants to be on the board, but it's it's really taken on this whole thing.
So it's been it's been really a great a great honor.
Uh and you and you people have done a fantastic job, I want to tell you that we appreciate it very much.
Thank you very much, everybody.
unidentified
All right.
Take your round.
Go, round.
Go, thank you.
Thank you.
Go, thank you.
One second.
donald j trump
One second.
abdel fattah el-sisi
I don't know, I've done the easy but I do why don't we have it up?
translator arabic
I just want to look forward to your excellency's support and your sponsorship with us in the conference for the reconstruction.
abdel fattah el-sisi
Thank you.
donald j trump
I appreciate thank you.
unidentified
thank you everybody Okay, that's a uh a gaggle or press available.
steve bannon
Um politico.
Um what President Trump is talking about in the in the campaign of 2016, because Hillary was making such a big deal about her bona fides as world leader.
Uh we made a decision, which Jared and myself made a decision that President Trump would go to the United Nations and take some meetings.
The very first meeting we had, and I believe it was General Flynn and uh Senator Sessions accompanied Jared and I went but let uh those two go into the room with uh General Sisi and his entourage, a couple couple of advisors want to keep it very low-key, and they hit it off right away.
Uh General CC saw something in Trump, uh, because uh remember at that time, coming off the Obama years, the Middle East was a complete and total mess.
And uh General CC saw something in Trump, and then later couldn't fit Hillary into his schedule.
And it uh really gave a boost of, and I remember President Trump, because he's you know he had never really been to the United Nations, he was a businessman, not a diplomat.
But uh they had a long meeting and really bonded.
He's been very close to General C. You see right there when I said when C when he shows up, uh we call him General.
President Trump doesn't refer to him as president because uh I mean uh Egypt is a tough place to govern, right?
It has very little industry, it has a massive population that does have the the agriculture that it used to be the uh Kansas for the Roman Empire, right?
Uh, you remember uh Cleopatra and all the Mark Antony and everybody going to Egypt as the is where the grain was.
Um but General Sisi is very close to President Trump, and he's been central to putting this deal together.
In fact, the the convening nations today are Qatar, Egypt, Turkey, and the United States of America.
So you have one of the Gulf Emirates, you then have what I think most people considered uh the leading Arab nation, which would be Egypt with the ancient civilization, and of course you have the Turks who are not Arabs, but one of the largest Muslim countries, and of course Urduan, Erdogan and Sisi are kind of the same guy, right?
These kind of uh very tough leaders that the Middle East has and you know has to have.
Uh Ben Harnwell, your uh your your your thoughts on all this.
ben harnwell
Well, I'm glad you say that, Steve, because it was absolutely visible to me that there was far more warmth on President Trump today sitting next to President General Al-Sisi than he showed to Bibi earlier on um in Israel today.
Far, far more wanting.
It was noticeable, right?
Genuine affection, genuine warmth.
Um look that there was in that press conference today something that President Trump said very quickly, very innocuously, uh, and I wrote it down as quickly as I could.
So this is an on the spur of the moment.
Um transcription of what he said.
So I'll allow for myself to be corrected if we get a full verbal um at a later point.
To refresh the war room, he was asked a question.
President Trump was asked a question about whether Iran is going to be involved in any way um moving forward with the peace.
Um and he said that he complimented very highly the Iranian people, said he wanted to lift the sanctions.
unidentified
And then Steve, he said this.
ben harnwell
Because he mentioned the the bombing of the nuclear plant, and he said if if we didn't bomb them, the nuclear plant, we wouldn't have this agreement here today.
Um now what I what I'm gonna say to that is uh whoever has is to hear, let them listen.
That is, I think a thousand percent a thesis, uh confirmation of the thesis that the war we mentioned this morning, and you mentioned it sort of repeatedly in the morning, Steve, and again on uh uh on the on the show today, on this this show now.
That's really that what really did it for BB Netanyahu, what the tide turn turned was when they deceived President Trump into bombing Iran, right?
That I think when he realized that not only the BB but also BB stooges in the United States, the Israel first crowd, as you said repeatedly today, they over overplayed their hand.
That is why we are here today.
That is the how Bibi must be wondering because a couple of weeks ago he was looking at the possibility of doing a full military invasion in in Gaza, like as a precursor to annexing the strip.
Oh no, you must be wondering how exactly did he succeed in snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory?
And it's because of this.
And I think Trump confirmed it is right now.
steve bannon
And I think it's all I mean, part of this is this audience and people that are saying, hey, we support Israel, but we're America first.
You don't call the shot.
And what you did in uh what you did in uh Persia was unacceptable and a bald-faced lie, and we know that from the times of Israel and the release of the war cabinet minutes.
It's two years, as we said here on the show over and over again.
I think it was a disgrace that John Ratcliffe, the CIA director, doesn't need to show up uh in Israel today.
He should be back at Langley doing CIA type things, which is like get our own intelligence and stops stop taking it from the Mossad.
That and what really hit President Trump's tripwire, because that was all about not taking out the nuclear facility because they didn't do it, it was decapitating the Iranian regime, and particularly the negotiating team that had a meeting scheduled with Whitkoff to try to get a negotiated end to it.
And then Bibi did it again in Qatar to try to take out the Hamas team.
How are you gonna get a deal?
How are you gonna get a deal uh to bring the hostage home like today when you try to take out the negotiating team that's doing it?
No, no, huge sea change.
And you're absolutely correct.
There's general warmth and respect between the president and General El Sisi of Egypt, which you didn't see with uh Netanyahu in Israel.
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