Oct. 9, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Good evening. | ||
| Hanwell here at the helm, Steve Bannon's War Room. | ||
| Welcome to the show. | ||
| This is Wednesday, 8th of October, Anno Domini 2025. | ||
| Well, after about four and a half, five months of being in office, Pope Leo appears to be quite comfortably settling in to his role. | ||
| And that role, by all accounts, seems to be leader of the opposition. | ||
| Today, in the first 10, 15 minutes of the show, we're going to be having an analysis on exactly what Pope Leo is doing. | ||
| And it seems to be putting in the crosshairs the Trump administration's flagship policies, specifically to do with immigration and the new Department for War. | ||
| To explain more, we've got Frank Walker from Canon 212. | ||
| Frank, as always, thanks for being with us on Wednesday evening. | ||
| Tell me, first of all, let's do the speech on Sunday where Pope Leo said the coldness of indifference. | ||
| He said that immigrants should not be treated with the coldness of indifference or the stigma of discrimination. | ||
| This is clearly a full frontal attack on the deportations policy of the present White House administration. | ||
| Tell us a bit more about the context and what went on on Sunday. | ||
| Well, he's doubling down is what he's doing because it was just a week ago that he made the statement that went around the world that Liz called his who am I to judge moment, accusing people who support Trump's policy on deportations, which is, I think, the vast majority of Americans not pro-life. | ||
| And so he came again this weekend doubling down and he said that he accused people who believe in legal immigration and controlled borders of being discriminatory, which is such a loaded word. | ||
| You know, the word discrimination, it's a word that they've been using for years to mean what it doesn't, but, you know, to mean not racist. | ||
| He's accusing us of being racist, but really it's just a mental process of making a decision. | ||
| He used that. | ||
| He accused us of racism and he said that he's going to, we have to create a new missionary age because this is the, there's so many jubilees this year. | ||
| And this is the jubilee of migrants and also also into the jubilee at the same time. | ||
| And so he's putting them together and he's saying that we're going to renew the face of the church. | ||
| So it's a completely different church. | ||
| But people who are Catholics and have been Catholics for all these 60 years of this new crazy church, they know that when they say renew, they mean destroy. | ||
| And so the missionary is not us going out. | ||
| The missionary is the un-Catholic lands coming here. | ||
| It doesn't mean they're going to become Catholic. | ||
| It doesn't mean that they're going to bring the culture. | ||
| It's just a bunch of tricks. | ||
| And at the end of this speech, in the piece here, they give him a hard time about the off-the-cuff remarks that he made last week. | ||
| Just recently, they asked him about this again, about Trump and his troops in Chicago. | ||
| And he said, oh, no, I don't want to speak about politics. | ||
| So, and all the Trad Inc., remember Trad Inc., they learned their lesson. | ||
| They said, Look at Pope. | ||
| He's learned not to make off-the-cuff remarks. | ||
| So, that was another thing he got a hard time about in this piece here at this speech. | ||
| So, so let's have a look at this. | ||
| Firstly, when the Novus Ordo Church, which many would maintain isn't the Roman Catholic Church, and I'm one of the people who would maintain that, Frank, I think you're another. | ||
| When the Novus Ordo regime talks about inverted commas becoming Catholic, it's clear that what they mean by that term is a superficial self-identification, right? | ||
| I will become Catholic, I will present as Catholic, as easy as a man might say equally erroneously that he's going to become a woman or vice versa, right? | ||
| It's a superficial label of identification. | ||
| Because, of course, to become Catholic or to become evangelical, right, you need to believe the substance of the faith in all its minutiae. | ||
| Or at least, if you don't know the full details, be open to accepting that once you've studied it and become informed to it. | ||
| What the superficial entity institution that calls itself the Catholic Church means, therefore, when talking about people becoming Catholic, it's simply a superficial, they're talking about people adapting a superficial label to themselves. | ||
| That's the first important thing to flag up, right? | ||
| The second important thing, and I talk it's a spirit, it's a spiritual thing. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Is it Hebrews? | ||
| Faith is the substance of things hoped for, evidence of things unseen. | ||
| That is what you're fundamentally buying into. | ||
| If you convert, I prefer the term conversion rather than becoming Catholic. | ||
| If you convert, either in the Catholic sphere or in the evangelical sphere, what you're doing is opening your will and your intellect to accept everything that is taught as part of this faith schema. | ||
| It's not a superficial label of identification to put on your social media profile. | ||
| And of course, that's the big problem with the Novus Ordo Church, right? | ||
| Because following the Second Vatican Council, the Catholic Church effectively substituted faith for sentiment, for sentimentality. | ||
| And that is the, and you see this nowhere more clearly than on these incredible World Youth Day events that the Catholic Church goes to, I think, every four years. | ||
| You see how badly this is painful to watch, and you see how superficial the identification is with Catholicism. | ||
| And it's based on sentimentality. | ||
| Of course, John Paul II has a lot to answer for with regards to that. | ||
| But the second thing, Frank, and I'm going to talk about this a little more with Jenny later on in the show, is that we have right now, there is something that Leo is saying, which is true, that we're, as he says, the church is experiencing a new missionary age. | ||
| And I think the public and gruesome martyrdom of Charlie Kirk is a major tributary into that particular river, right? | ||
| But we are entering a new missionary age. | ||
| And the evidence for that, Frank Walker, is that you see so many young guys. | ||
| The most difficult category of all to catechize, to teach, are young adult historically, at least since the 20th century, a young adult men. | ||
| And this is the very category which is now accelerating forward in interest and enthusiasm, not just in the Catholic Church, the Catholic Church. | ||
| You see this in traditionalism? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Traditional Catholic, absolutely. | ||
| You see this in the evangelical church as well. | ||
| All the polls are showing this. | ||
| That is evidence of this new missionary age. | ||
| And as I say, we're going to dig into this with Jenny a little later. | ||
| But you tell me, because no one studies the media, the Catholic media, the goings on more closely than you. | ||
| You do it every day, you know, when you're updating Canon 212. | ||
| You tell me, right? | ||
| That part is true. | ||
| We are entering into a new missionary age. | ||
| When the pagan is so clearly tacking a line against the present administration, though, tell me how that is going to go down with this cohort, which is searching out for the first time Christian truths. | ||
| Well, I think they're going to be, well, that's a big question, you know, because you get so many comments that hold up Pope Leo as an example of why not to be Catholic. | ||
| And so, you know, it may steer them away from the Catholic Church. | ||
| But I think that this revival is miraculous. | ||
| And I think that it will be, you know, continue to be a sort of a miraculous thing. | ||
| I know there's a study in France that I read last week that says that the Islamization of France is key. | ||
| And so that may have a lot to do with it, the Islamization and in the UK and growing in the United States. | ||
| But I think that they're, I think that I always say, like Ferris Bueller, when they tried to, Maitre D tried to kick him out of that restaurant, he said, I'm not going to let a guy like, I'm not going to be kicked out of a place like this by a guy like that. | ||
| And you should look that way in Pope Leo. | ||
| And I hope that these, I hope that these young men are being drawn through Mary and through things like the Rosary. | ||
| So many evangelicals say the Rosary and drawn to the Catholic Church. | ||
| They should remember that. | ||
| Don't let these political, and he's made himself so clearly political, even Christian Hawkins. | ||
| He's not only made himself an enemy of MAGA, he's made himself an enemy of the rhinos in Congress. | ||
| He's completely on the stupid side now. | ||
| And so all of you good conservatives who are growing up and trying to raise families and trying to improve things, don't let these people who have been planted, like Archbishop Igno said, the deep church, don't let the deep church and their Maitre D's drive you out of the Catholic Church. | ||
| Let, you know, consider it for what it is historically. | ||
| And like you're saying, Ben, spiritually. | ||
| Look at what the actual teachings are. | ||
| They're available to you. | ||
| Don't let bishops and people who are compromised, you know, the Catholic Church has been a target forever, but it's particularly in this last century for the enemies of civilization for hundreds of years. | ||
| And that's why it's been so ruined. | ||
| But look at the underground church, like we like to talk about here. | ||
| And what does the underground church have to show you about the past, about the apostles, about Christ himself, about your own culture? | ||
| That's what I think about that. | ||
| You heard it there, folks. | ||
| You heard it there. | ||
| Frank Ferris Bueller Walker lays it out for you. | ||
| Don't, folks, don't let people like you be driven out of the church by people like that. | ||
| That is per that is so perfect and succinct. | ||
| Now, look, let me say this: like, I, you know, 25 years ago, I crossed the Tiber myself. | ||
| Um, and there's nothing more that I'd like to see than Protestants accept coming and accepting the fullness of the Catholic faith, the traditional Catholic faith. | ||
| That's not why we do this show, however. | ||
| This show, we love the fact that evangelicals are watching this and drawing something at it. | ||
| But this is not a conversion exercise. | ||
| This show, this show primarily is a tool specifically for Catholics, for people in the Catholic sphere, to grow in the strength of their faith to fundamentally one day take the governing of the church into their own hands, | ||
| to take the agency that Christ gave them and take the governance of the church from the hands of these evil men that are driving the church into the ground and have been doing so for many decades based on your obedience to take that back and to repilate the church on the correct path. | ||
| That's why we do this church. | ||
| I flag up one thing that Frank Walker just mentioned, which is very important. | ||
| There is something that is going on that the Holy Spirit is doing. | ||
| I don't fully know what it is, but I can see some of the things, right? | ||
| Charlie Kirk, we mentioned him earlier on the show, great evangelical, great exemplar of contemporary evangelicalism, evangelicalism, was martyred, wearing around his neck, I think it was a gift from his wife, Erica, right? | ||
| That a dallion of St. Michael the Archangel, the great Catholic devotion, one of the great Catholic devotions against Satan and his dark works. | ||
| Satan, whom our Lord called the Lord, the Prince of this world. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Second thing that I want to flag up is Donald Trump, President Donald Trump. | ||
| Nobody's idea of an archetypical traditionalist Catholic. | ||
| And yet he pushes out on, I think, was it February the 22nd, on the feast day of St. Michael the Archangel, the prayer to St. Michael and wishing all Catholics good fortune on that day. | ||
| A president who's very much, I'm not saying he is a dictionary definition of an evangelical believer, but very much formed in that mold and very open to evangelicalism and its exponents. | ||
| We see that in the prayer sessions he holds in the Oval Office with the Protestant pastors. | ||
| Those are things what I would like to suggest to our evangelical brothers and sisters, Frank, is let's put aside the idea of evangelicals trying to convert Catholics and Catholics trying to convert evangelicals. | ||
| That's good that both sides are trying to do it. | ||
| It means that they believe the elements of their faith. | ||
| But we'll put that aside to another occasion, another day, and another program. | ||
| What I would like to flag up is that there is something in the traditional Catholic devotions, like the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel, like the medallion to St. Michael the Archangel, that evangelicals, without denying anything proper to evangelicalism, can draw a lot of sustenance and support at in the spiritual battle that we face against Satan and darkness. | ||
| Frank, that's what I'd fundamentally like to say. | ||
| I don't know if you have a response to that. | ||
| Well, it's true. | ||
| There are so many evangelical Catholics out there who are more Catholic than most Catholics. | ||
| And there are so many ways that we share the same faith. | ||
| We go back to the same scripture. | ||
| We go back to the same things that we learned from. | ||
| I think, Ben, I wanted to mention that when Trump made that St. Michael's statement, he mentioned Pope Leo, who wrote the St. Michael's Prayer 100 years or more ago. | ||
| I think that was a wonderful, very, very, very, you know, sometimes you make the most powerful statement by being very, very small about it, very understated. | ||
| But I read in that statement that he understands, see, the reasoning they came up with Leo XIV is because they wanted to make him look legitimate and tie him to Leo XIII, who they use as a way to make their current agenda look like it's from something from the past, but they really exploited and they twist it. | ||
| Trump understands that. | ||
| He seemed to understand that in that statement by mentioning Pope Leo XIII. | ||
| He understands that Pope Leo is not the Catholic that Pope Leo XIII was. | ||
| He understands that Pope Leo XIV is sort of a stunt, sort of a political stunt. | ||
| And that's a message to all of us evangelicals and Catholics that that's what we're facing here with the Catholic Church and its new Pope. | ||
| So I thought that was, I was so impressed with that because I could read that in his statement. | ||
| The young guy that puts our Friday show together based here in Italy, young Italo-American Victorio Franco introduced me to a term he called skin suiting. | ||
| He says that all of these people are doing are skin suiting as Catholics. | ||
| It's a Generation Z term. | ||
| So obviously I'm not going to get it perfectly correct. | ||
| But that's the concept. | ||
| People who present on a superficial level as being Catholic. | ||
| And I think President Trump's intuition, if that's what he thinks about Leo XIV vis-à-vis Leo XIII, is absolutely spot on. | ||
| Franco, we'll come back to you. | ||
| Standby, we're going to come back to you later on in the show as we dig down on exactly what the hierarchy is doing to faithful in Europe. | ||
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| Okay, on with the show. | ||
| Jenny, before we come to you, let's have your reaction to some recent goings on in Sharia compliant Great Britain. | ||
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Police warn passersby to get back before shooting down the suspect behind today's attack outside a synagogue in North Manchester that has left two victims dead and three seriously injured. | |
| You heard it there, folks. | ||
| Long live the Intifada. | ||
| That's what they're chanting. | ||
| Jenny, it's absolutely clear to me we're going to run over this break and carry this after the break in five minutes. | ||
| I'm sure there's a lot in the previous segment that we were discussing with Frank Walker that you would have insights on that you want to add to. | ||
| But let's say this, right? | ||
| Following on this argument that there is a new missionary age taking place right now, and you have like that young 18 to 23 year old cohort, young guys, that most difficult cohort to keep in church, crossing the threshold of the church for the first time in their lives. | ||
| And what are they going to see now? | ||
| They're going to see that the Anglicans, that worldwide communion that has its largest component, the Church of England, has just elected its first female archlayman of Canterbury. | ||
| And I reckon that any normal 20-year-old heterosexual male will look at this, walking into a church and run a million miles. | ||
| Tell us about the UK and what is going on. | ||
| Because there are two forces right now taking place in the UK right now. | ||
| There's Islamism and this new missionary age amongst young guys, especially taking place. | ||
| And this is the Church of England's response. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| That's spot on about the two competing forces of Islamism and this new Christian revival. | ||
| And I'm sorry to say that the Christian revival is very much behind the eight ball and has a lot of catching up to do very fast in order to compete. | ||
| The Islamicization of the United Kingdom has been given a carte blanche for the last several decades, it seems. | ||
| And that cold open shows one of the most recent results of that, which was, of course, as viewers will know, a synagogue in Manchester was attacked last Wednesday on Yom Kippur, which is the holiest holiday in the Jewish religion. | ||
| And a Syrian-born British man who grew up one mile away from the synagogue. | ||
| So he grew up in a community, an established old Jewish community in Manchester. | ||
| His name was, for real, Jihad. | ||
| That was his first name, Jihad al-Shami. | ||
| His father came to the UK as sort of a refugee, an asylum seeker from Syria. | ||
| And this is how he repaid the country that welcomed him and raised him. | ||
| Two people were killed in that attack, as has been widely reported, a 53-year-old and a 66-year-old. | ||
| One of them, it seems, was shot by the police officers who responded. | ||
| And it was just an absolute disaster from start to finish. | ||
| The most shocking thing about it to me personally, not to sound cynical, was how long it's taken for Jews to be attacked, you know, in particular Jews to be attacked in England, in the United Kingdom, given the fervent obsession with Palestine and Hamas, basically, throughout that has gripped almost like almost like a fever, a mind virus that has gripped many of the youth of the United Kingdom. | ||
| And those videos that you saw following the video from Manchester were from the day after the stabbing on Wednesday. | ||
| The following day, they came out and filled the streets to protest again for Palestine. | ||
| No concern over the death that had just occurred. | ||
| And then it happened again at the weekend. | ||
| Nearly 500 protesters were arrested in London because they were protesting on behalf of an organization that's been banned called Palestine Action. | ||
| And then again, yesterday on October 7th, the anniversary of the October 7th pogrom, they took to the streets yet again, gave fiery, I would say, like almost millenarian religious speeches and, you know, in English and in Arabic in these very intense religious terms, you know, all about Islam. | ||
| This is the state of the United Kingdom today. | ||
| And so those young men that you mentioned are being driven into the arms of, I would say, the quote-unquote real church by this obvious crisis. | ||
| It's a political crisis, yes. | ||
| It's also an economic crisis because all of these new migrants arriving are taking up housing and they're weighing down the benefit system and the NHS and the schools. | ||
| But it's also mostly a spiritual crisis because all of these young men and also a lot of young women and also a lot of not-so-younc people like me, who is a staunch atheist, Gen X sort of indie kid, are asking, how did our leaders become so weak and debased that they have supported this jihadi project for the better part of my adult life? | ||
| This is obviously, the Manchester attack was obviously not the first attack, even in Manchester. | ||
| The United Kingdom has been subjected to multiple Islamic terrorist attacks, and yet the pro-Palestinian fanatics still feel entitled and brazen enough to take to the streets in the thousands to demand justice for Palestine. | ||
| What about justice for England? | ||
| What about justice for English Jews? | ||
| Look, I remember some North London Jewish friends of mine telling me 20 years ago about the desecration of the Jewish cemeteries taking place by effectively young Pakistani origin guys whom they would also see on the on the London Underground with swastika earrings and what have you. | ||
| No one, no one, it was a problem that the authorities could see but refused to acknowledge. | ||
| And this is the net result of that, right, Jenny? | ||
| The lack. | ||
| I mean, how is it? | ||
| You can almost imagine the British establishment's bewilderment. | ||
| You know, they're looking at this guy, Mr. Jihad Al-Shami, thinking, coming into the country, asking for papers to come into the country, signing off on them. | ||
| And then they see this and they're saying to themselves, how could we have known? | ||
| You know, how could we have predicted this? | ||
| I mean, the name obviously wasn't, in and of itself, wasn't flagging up any concerns or any preoccupations. | ||
| It's, you know, how could we have known? | ||
| We did what we could. | ||
| And the net consequence of that is that people die, innocent people die. | ||
| Stay tuned, folks. | ||
| We'll be back in two short minutes. | ||
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| Jenny, I just want to wrap up what we were saying just before the break on this. | ||
| Because I can't see any other sphere of human activity where people could get away with this kind of liability. | ||
| Let me put it like this. | ||
| I certainly don't think any commercial company could do this. | ||
| What am I talking about? | ||
| To come into the country, it requires some civil servant, presumably in the home office, signing off on the papers. | ||
| They read the documents, they say yes, they know, they stamp it, and they sign it, right? | ||
| At least that always takes place for the visa papers to be released. | ||
| If a civil servant, this is my theory, to ask you for your reaction to this, right? | ||
| And then we'll move on with the show. | ||
| But this is my theory of the case. | ||
| And I mentioned this before on the war room. | ||
| And I think it's the same in the, it should be the same in the UK as in the United States or in any Western country. | ||
| If you are a civil servant and you sign off, you stamp and say accepted any request to come into the country to a person who then goes off and commits crime once they're in the country, you, you, that civil servant, that signed and stamped, you need to be held personably accountable for that act. | ||
| And I think if civil servants, because they know they would know why they're nodding everyone through, because they've got no skin in the game, right? | ||
| They're paid their salaries, right? | ||
| They're zero, no skin in the game. | ||
| If they had skin in the game, if the people that they were signing off to come into the country, if they were held responsible, criminally responsible for any future crimes that those people would commit, do you think they'd be a little more vigilant on who they're letting in? | ||
| Perhaps, although who knows, maybe not. | ||
| I mean, look, this is, you're kind of zeroing in on the target here because this is 100% yet another example. | ||
| We didn't need any more evidence. | ||
| We already knew this was the case, but yet another example of the total and utter failure of multiculturalism as it was conceived in the Tony Blair era. | ||
| And of course, he's also responsible for civil service reforms that made them a lot more unaccountable. | ||
| And this is one of the structural problems that UK political parties are going to have to grapple with now, and good luck to them. | ||
| But this idea that the United Kingdom was so kind and fair and just that they could take in an unlimited number of culturally diverse, shall we say, in euphemism, people and then expect absolutely nothing of them. | ||
| I mean, this guy, Jihad Al-Shami, not only had never really held down a job, but he was also on bail for rape from charges from earlier this year. | ||
| I mean, this is a person who contributed, I mean, absolutely nothing, even before he went on a stabbing rampage against Jews in his own neighborhood. | ||
| Okay, so nothing about this project that Tony Blair dreamed up in a communist fever dream, however many decades ago, has come out, has ended well for the British people. | ||
| There are other immigrant groups in Britain. | ||
| They've done well. | ||
| This is not necessarily an issue about immigration, but obviously, what we have now, on top of this prior existing problem, the Pakistanis coming in many years ago and forming these rape gangs and all this stuff, you have all of these new immigrants coming in, unvetted migrants, I should say, arriving on small boats, waves of them every single day and disappearing into British and English and Scottish and everywhere neighborhoods. | ||
| Always poor neighborhoods. | ||
| They don't ever end up in posh parts of London. | ||
| And ordinary English taxpayers are paying the price. | ||
| They're being asked to leave their homes, literally. | ||
| They're being asked to pay more in taxes, and they have to put up with the degradation of this chauvinistic, triumphalist Islama Sharia supremacy. | ||
| Yeah, folks, stop voting for people who hate you. | ||
| I can't put it more succinctly. | ||
| That's stop voting for people who hate you. | ||
| And listen, listen, I'm going to come back to my early point, my earlier point, because I think it's a great idea. | ||
| Hold civil servants, those responsible, those civil servants who are charged with granting visas or refusing them. | ||
| Hold them criminally responsible, criminally liable for any crimes that are committed by the people they're letting into the country on a case-by-case basis. | ||
| But, Jenny Holland, even if you don't like that idea, meet me halfway. | ||
| Stop letting people into the country whose name is Jihad, right? | ||
| That would be a good first step, right? | ||
| Jenny, stay with us. | ||
| We're back to you in 10 minutes to discuss this latest story about TikTok and the diverting, the specific algorithmic diverting of hardcore sexual material to young kids. | ||
| Frank Walker, talk on the theme, on the theme of stop voting for people who hate you. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| Stop giving your religious obedience to people who hate you in the Catholic sphere. | ||
| Yet again, it's another Wednesday, so that means that we're going to be talking about another case on the show of what the hierarchy, what the Catholic hierarchy has been doing behind the backs of the faithful, the flock, who with their collection plate money keep this whole show on the road. | ||
| Now, this week, we're off to Strasbourg, where a senior cleric of the diocese has been caught diverting attention away from a sex abuse story, and then he had to come clean. | ||
| What is the sex abuse story? | ||
| Well, the vicar general of the diocese, which is the number two, after the bishop himself, has an active abuse case open. | ||
| So, you want to ask, how is this guy still there? | ||
| But he has an active abuse case open. | ||
| And what is the abuse charge against him? | ||
| Let's keep in the word alleged here. | ||
| But the alleged abuse is that a young kid who was 13 years old said that this priest had sexually abused him. | ||
| Frank, you've got all the details. | ||
| Why don't you brief us more fully on what has happened in France? | ||
| Well, it's a back and forth, really. | ||
| There's a lot of details, and it's gone on for a while. | ||
| But Father Smith was accused of abusing somebody at the age of 13 about 30 years ago. | ||
| And our public case and a canonical case were both open against him with a previous bishop. | ||
| And then he, after a while, the public case was closed and the canonical case was open, but the bishop changed over and he had been replaced. | ||
| Was replaced by the new bishop and put back in his place because they said, Well, it's been cleared. | ||
| He's not guilty. | ||
| He can have his official position again. | ||
| But then some anonymous priest called for a visitation. | ||
| Now, the previous bishop was visited too. | ||
| See, I think there's some twists and turns in this that show you more of the reality of these cases. | ||
| Because, you know, this is in France. | ||
| And there's another case where we talked about before with Father Spina, who had a priest was actually convicted of molesting a child. | ||
| But in this one, it's an accusation. | ||
| The bishop from before was visited by France. | ||
| Francis had a visitation, and they said that he was too authoritarian. | ||
| Now, when I hear that, authoritarian, that's a code word. | ||
| That means that the Francis Church and the Leo Church, the liberals and the bishops who are guilty of these crimes themselves many times, that they are moving against priests for really not any good grounds, for being Catholic, when they say he's authoritarian. | ||
| So this bishop in this case sounded Catholic because he was visited for being authoritarian. | ||
| Now, the following bishop followed him after he's forced to resign. | ||
| He put this bishop, this Father Schmidt, back after the case was not really cleared by the canonical court. | ||
| Then a movie came out in the press and the press brought it all back again. | ||
| The new bishop was forced to send him back out again. | ||
| And when you hear him speak, he actually is kind of indignant. | ||
| He actually doesn't sound guilty. | ||
| Like in the other case that the press brought out that we talked about here a month ago, that guy was obviously guilty. | ||
| This guy protests. | ||
| And so now they're moving into this new canonical kind of coordinated court that they do with the state. | ||
| And he says he's happy to be able to go there and defend himself. | ||
| So, you know, like in Peru with Father Coronado, with Bishop Cipriani, Cardinal Cipriani, who just met with Leo, just like the SVC group that has been removed there and all of the visitations there, it's never always so clear. | ||
| Sometimes these people can be innocent. | ||
| You can't really tell from these reports, but you have to just kind of get hints to who are their enemies. | ||
| Just because the press is against you, does that necessarily mean you're guilty? | ||
| They will move against you whether you're guilty or whether you're not sometimes if it's Catholic. | ||
| So I don't really know how this all is playing out. | ||
| I know that the next step is for this father to go up before the canonical, the new organization, and he seems to be looking forward to doing it. | ||
| Meanwhile, a new bishop has been placed and the bishop that Francis put there has had to resign just for, you know, it's like in Argentina where Francis puts in a bishop and he gets removed for some secret reason all of a sudden. | ||
| The people in France are so used to them ignoring these cases, so used to this hierarchy being corrupt. | ||
| You know, the Father Spina's bishop, he's just like, said, I'm just having Francis mercy on him, and I'm bringing this convicted pervert back into making judgments over court cases. | ||
| And, you know, so people are so sick of it that I don't think they could win whether they were innocent or not. | ||
| Frank, stand by. | ||
| We'll pick the feds up on this just in a couple of moments. | ||
| But you did mention something that's very important, and that is the inviolable nature of the presumption of innocence. | ||
| That is something where everybody deserves to be treated as innocent until proven guilty. | ||
| Yeah, I've got a further point to make. | ||
| And I've been to enough court cases here in Italy myself where I've been denied the presumption. | ||
| I've literally been denied the presumption of innocence. | ||
| So to unline that, I have a further point to make. | ||
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| Frank, just the only other point I would come back to on this issue of the French priest, the vicar general, in this diocese is a point that we've touched on occasionally in the show before. | ||
| And that is that for many decades, even though the presumption of innocence is an inviolable right and everyone deserves that right, it is worth noting that since the Second Vatican Council, the lavender mafias right across the Catholic world in seminaries have been filtering out heterosexual men. | ||
| And basically, nine out of ten, right, go forward for ordination who have, let's say, question marks, reasonable question marks, reasonably justifiable question marks as to their orientation. | ||
| And the net consequence, I'd say nine out of ten, right? | ||
| Go forward shouldn't be, shouldn't have been ordained. | ||
| That is the situation in the modern Catholic Church. | ||
| And it is therefore no surprise that you have that we're sitting here every Wednesday on the war room picking out one abuse case. | ||
| And this is just like one priest, you know, that no one knew who was off in the corner of a diocese and out in the country and no one was monitoring them. | ||
| These what we see, what we're covering here on the war room now are like the senior leadership figures of diocese themselves, vicars, vicars general, bishops even. | ||
| That's the situation of the contemporary Catholic Church. | ||
| Stand by, Frank. | ||
| I'm going to come back to you because I know time is running short. | ||
| Now, I just quickly want to get to Jenny for this one last story of the show today. | ||
| And this is to do with TikTok and why, folks, you shouldn't let your kids anywhere near it. | ||
| Jenny, what are the latest revelations? | ||
| Yeah, a story appeared in the New York Post off the research from a group called Global Witness that TikTok not only makes hardcore porn just available to minors, but actually pushes them towards it. | ||
| So as it says, there are accounts created by researchers, adults posing as minors, as 13-year-olds with safety settings, child safety settings on their accounts, were getting hardcore porn search suggestions. | ||
| And even, and there were sort of groups saying, even when they don't want to see things like this, they are kind of it's constantly being shoved down their throats. | ||
| And I mean, this isn't immensely surprising, I have to say, although it's very good evidence for great skepticism, if not sort of like outright banning of TikTok for children. | ||
| But this is something people who follow the sexualization of childhood closely have known for quite some time now. | ||
| It really has to be said. | ||
| Your audience probably doesn't need to be told, but a lot of liberals do need to be told that this is not your sort of granddad's porn. | ||
| Excuse the phrase. | ||
| We're not talking about magazines wrapped in paper, in brown paper high up on shelves or videos behind curtains in your video store. | ||
| This is very deviant, very damaging, often violent videos that do profound damage to girls and women, but also to boys and men who view them. | ||
| So this is an exploitation not just of the actors engaging in the activity, but actually the viewers. | ||
| And so many of these viewers are very young boys who stumble upon this material and have trauma responses akin to children who have actually directly experienced sexual abuse themselves. | ||
| This is well known in certain circles, especially those who are trying to push back and protect children from this. | ||
| And just to tie it into our normal topic of cleaning out the church, so to speak, this is why the traditional Catholic morality, the traditional Catholic sexual morality, is really desperately needed at this moment, if nothing else, to rebalance from the outrageous, and I would say like industrial scale promiscuity that children are experiencing right now. | ||
| I mean, this is unprecedented. | ||
| I don't think there's ever been a time, certainly since the pagan era, and there's never been a time because of digital, the digital factor, that so many children have been sucked into this. | ||
| I mean, I can't find a strong enough word to say how disgusting a lot of this material is. | ||
| And who should those people be turning to for solace and healing? | ||
| You want a space that is free from these sexual intemperance, shall we say. | ||
| And if the churches and the clergy cannot provide that, that's an actually even greater sin than I think than the act itself, because these are people tasked with the moral salvation that is actually very needed. | ||
| And I say that again, as I say every week, I am a secular person. | ||
| I don't live by a particular Christian moral code, but I can see that it has tremendous value. | ||
| And young people are crying out for it. | ||
| And the clergy must rise to this occasion. | ||
| Jenny, look, you're a mother with a teenage son. | ||
| Let me put this point to you. | ||
| Now, we always on this show, we're always pushing getter, but I want to quote something that I read recently from Andrew Torba, who's the founder of Gab, which is an alternative social media website. | ||
| He said, it's a very profound point. | ||
| It makes me think. | ||
| He said that your average teenage kid will see more naked women scrolling through TikTok in 60 seconds than your grandfather will have seen in the entirety of his life. | ||
| And that's what it is. | ||
| I can actually do better than that. | ||
| I had a subscriber comment that young men by the age of eight, by the age of 10, have seen more naked women than Genghis Khan. | ||
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And that is profoundly destabilizing. | |
| It is destabilizing. | ||
| Look, Jenny, I know you touched on these things on your superb sub stack. | ||
| Where do people go to keep up with your writing? | ||
| Jennyholland.substack.com. | ||
| And I'm on X as well at Semper Femina21. | ||
| Thanks for those insights on the show today, Jenny. | ||
| You're superb. | ||
| Frank Walker, where do people go to get Canon 212? | ||
| Canon212 with one N. Type it up in your address bar. | ||
| And if you can see the daily update, it's on the right-hand column. | ||
| It's also at Rumble. | ||
| and Aglaria TV. | ||
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At Twitter, Canon212, I'll spell it out. | |
| And you also have the Stumbling Block website, right? | ||
| Stumbling Block, yeah. | ||
| You can see the video there too. | ||
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| Folks, you do need to type Canon 212 out in full because it is suffering. | ||
| Since Frank has been on this show, since he's on this show, he has been suffering the algorithmic victimization and suppression by Google. | ||
| And it's a great website. | ||
| And I strongly recommend it to you. | ||
| My thanks today to Wendell and the excellent control team in Denver, Real America's Voice, and to Cameron Wallace, our producer in DC. |
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