Oct. 7, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Cause we're going medieval on this people. | ||
| About the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not gonna stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| Mega media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| 6 October, 2025, Monday, Day of Action Day. | ||
| Um the uh fleet activity actually amazing is kind of roll through the day. | ||
| He rejuvenated and recharged President Trump as he tries to bring peace to the Middle East and to the rest of the world, Ukraine, all of it. | ||
| That's three of, I think, the smartest guys around to join us. | ||
| Roger Kimball, Dr. Bradley Thayer. | ||
| And Ben Harnwell. | ||
| Uh Roger Kimball, I'm gonna start with you. | ||
| Tell me about this piece you've written that kind of the difference between President Trump's first term and the second, because we're seeing he's got a very different cut of the gib as we say in the Navy and much more much more uh kind of uh I don't know, purposefulness or just more energy, | ||
| more focused, and really taking our trying to create world peace or bring world peace to the bloodlands in Ukraine and to the you know the Middle East, uh, and also trying to put down an insurrection here at home. | ||
| Uh sir, the floor is yours on this magnificent article. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Well, uh the the uh not only is the jib uh cut differently, but the spinnaker has been deployed, and we have the wind uh behind us. | ||
| It's it's really quite extraordinary what what's going on in this second term. | ||
| It is like night and day between Trump 1.0 and Trump 2.0. | ||
| Of course, it got off to a bang with his inauguration address. | ||
| I mean, no sooner was that the ink dry on on that address than he um he issued all these executive orders outlawing diversity, equity, and inclusion uh throughout the federal government uh within the opening days of of his second administration. | ||
| And it's not just the executive orders, it's actually the will to see that these orders are accomplished. | ||
| So in my uh article yesterday for American Greatness, I um dilated especially on uh Kash Patel's emancipation of the FBI from uh the racist organizations, uh such racist organizations as the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center, uh, which pretends it's been around since the 1970s. | ||
| They pretend to be fighting bigotry and racism and so on. | ||
| Actually, what they're expert at is lining their own pockets. | ||
| It's a it's a not-for-profit that has uh something like half a billion dollars in the bank, uh banks, by the way, uh, that are um uh many of which are offshore, like in the Cayman Islands and so on. | ||
| Uh but what they basically do is they're in uh they're kind of a protection racket. | ||
| They're they're they're shaking people down. | ||
| Um they have they've published for for many years now what they call a hate map, a hate map. | ||
| And it's you you if you go look at it, you see all these little circles. | ||
| And these are supposed to be individuals and institutions that are fomenting hate around the country. | ||
| Um I was happy to see, by the way, that um when Stephen K. Bannon in War Room makes the cut, you're there uh uh as a fomenter of of hate. | ||
| What they mean, of course, is that you have opinions that differ from the uh left progressive identity politics that they are attempting to foist on on the country. | ||
| So they use phrases like far right, because adding that, adding that um adjective at the beginning uh makes it sound scarier, or they use the term alt-right. | ||
| That sounds even scarier. | ||
| But what they mean is somebody who actually cares about the institutions, the history, and the culture of this country. | ||
| And so it is, it was it's wonderful that Cash Patel has emancipated the FBI from this um from this horrible institution. | ||
| It's they they were feeding uh not only the FBI, but um uh in the bad old days before Elon Musk took it over, uh, what used to be called Twitter, they would feed them uh the names of people of institutions that they should censor, that they should kick off Twitter. | ||
| This would be people like uh the president of the United States, for example, or uh the New York Post or Miranda Devine, who reported for the New York Post on Hunter Biden's laptop, which we were assured was a Russian hoax at the time. | ||
| We had 51 intelligence officers or former intelligence officers uh uh you know vouchsafing for this uh this um uh idea. | ||
| But of course, it turned out it wasn't Russian intelligence, it was it was Hunter Biden's own laptop full of compromising information. | ||
| So it's uh that's what the article is about. | ||
| And um uh I think anything that can be done to uh undermine uh the the Southern Poverty Law Center uh uh is is all to all to the good because like so many democratic initiatives, they are basically in the business of projection. | ||
| That is to say they are guilty of the very thing that they accuse other people of. | ||
| So they keep going on and on about um racism and bigotry and divisiveness. | ||
| There is no more divisive institution in this country than the so-called Southern Poverty Law Center. | ||
| Uh do you think, and I think it's great. | ||
| You're going after ADL, you're going after uh Southern Poverty Law Center. | ||
| Also think I also think we ought to people should start gearing up big civil suits against these, bankrupt them, go after their donors. | ||
| Think we definitely have to go after their donors and all of it. | ||
| It's one of those things, unless you get to the roots of it and pull at the roots and and and put the fear of God into the people actually finance us, not just the front, not just the people work at ADL, Rosenblatt and that crowd, they're all corrupt and a bunch of Marxists uh and have done have done more damage to the Jewish people than any other organization I can think of. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's one of the reasons they're they're one of the reasons that the polling's so horrible about uh uh in regards to the Jewish people in in the country, it's because of ADL and groups like ADO. | ||
| But do you think in this 2.0, walk me through actually getting to the heart of the beast, because you've got to deconstruct the administrative state, or which Russ vote is all triggered on now doing uh with the shutdown. | ||
| And and we know that the as I said, the the Elon thing was uh Elmo's uh thing was what a uh a six-year-old child thinks of, and that's why nothing happened with it. | ||
| Uh but but more importantly, the deep state. | ||
| Do you think we're aggressively enough? | ||
| I haven't seen Purp Walks yet. | ||
| Do you think we're make because we're burning daylight, and you know the deep state's just trying to wait Trump out, sir. | ||
| Yes, well, it's um uh they've got three and a half years to go, and then they have eight years of JD Vance or Marco Rubio, and then eight more years of either JD Vance or Marco Rubio. | ||
| Uh so I they're gonna have it's gonna be a long wait. | ||
| Now, of course, uh if pairs of the things that I I don't I could not disagree with you more. | ||
| I think I think I think if you're looking at that, that's a fantasy, but we'll deal with that another time. | ||
| Deal with the reality. | ||
| We say three and a half years, or you say three and a half years, they're trying to block him right now. | ||
| If Hakeem Jeffries wins the midterm, if Hakim Jeffrey wins the midterm, if, and by the way, it's not if we if we don't get the 21 seats redistricted, uh he wins the midterm, first thing he does is impeach Trump. | ||
| All the tech brokers all the tech boroughs are are on the trigger to jump on it. | ||
| So you can't don't give me 24 years. | ||
| That's a massive fantasy. | ||
| Let's deal with reality. | ||
| Okay, so it you're right. | ||
| If they were to win in 2026, if they took back the house, the very first thing that they would do is impeach Trump. | ||
| I don't think it would uh he wouldn't be convicted because I'm pretty sure we're gonna hold the Senate. | ||
| I think it's likely that we'll hold the House. | ||
| I mean, Hakim Jeffries is not doing so well these days. | ||
| I mean, he he he I agree. | ||
| Uh he's he looks good in a sombrero, but that's about all you can say for him. | ||
| Uh his his uh poll ratings are are in the tank, as far as I can see. | ||
| But uh, you know, you're quite right. | ||
| We we have we are being aggressive. | ||
| Are we sufficiently aggressive? | ||
| I don't know, but I think Russ Void is is doing the right thing. | ||
| Listen, this shutdown, this Schumer shutdown, um, they are hurting themselves. | ||
| Who are the who are the employees are gonna get laid off? | ||
| Uh they're all Democrats. | ||
| They're all these federal employees that are all Democrats. | ||
| So it's actually quite clever um uh of Trump to do this because he can he can uh it's not just gonna be furloughed. | ||
| He's gonna get rid of the, he's gonna get rid of the entire um entire you know swaths of federal employees, which will all be Democrats. | ||
| And who are they gonna blame? | ||
| They're not gonna blame Donald Trump. | ||
| They're gonna blame Chuck Schumer and uh and Hakeem Jeffries. | ||
| So um I'm I'm you know cautiously optimistic, let us say. | ||
| But I I I agree that we we need to. | ||
| But Russ, but Russ, okay, but but Russ Russ, Russ is the administrative state. | ||
| He will take some shots of the deep state. | ||
| But that intersection, the intersectionality of intelligence, uh law enforcement, national security, the the the uh the arms makers, all that that formed the deep state. | ||
| Are you comfortable right now that we're uh I think we're burning daylight? | ||
| Are you comfortable now that we're actually taking that apart? | ||
| Like it has to be taken apart. | ||
| Well, there always could be more done. | ||
| But the if you compare what's going on right now to what was going on in 2017, I think it's as I said at the beginning, it's like uh day and night. | ||
| We're we're doing a lot today. | ||
| Uh we could do more. | ||
| We could do more. | ||
| But um, I think you know, it's one step at a time. | ||
| You said, where are the perp walks? | ||
| Well, let's see what happens on Thursday. | ||
| That is when um uh former FBI director James Comey is arraigned. | ||
| Will there be a purpose? | ||
| Maybe, maybe. | ||
| That would be good, in my opinion. | ||
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Well, I it it it would be good to be given a range. | |
| Let me go to I just gotta say very quickly, I disagree with some friends of mine who who think that it's totally outrageous that we are uh that that Comey has been indicted. | ||
| I think he is right in the center of the the biggest political scandal in our history, right deep right there in the center. | ||
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Uh with the John Brennan. | |
| What what what walk the walk is? | ||
| Because I say this indictment is just it's just just an appetizer. | ||
| Walk me through why he's central, a central figure on the biggest political scandal in American history. | ||
| Well, because it was uh remember, it was he and Barack Obama and Joe Biden and John Brennan and uh Susan Rice and a couple of other people in that meeting in the Oval Office on January 5th, 20 uh uh 2017. | ||
| Uh this was the kind of the second big meeting to how were they going to prevent Trump from either taking office or failing that? | ||
| How were they going to destroy him? | ||
| He was right in the center of that. | ||
| Uh so uh and that of course, I mean, the he would what was he indicted for? | ||
| Well, he was indicted for the same thing that uh Mike Flynn was indicted for, except uh, or Roger Stone. | ||
| Uh or or um, but he didn't have the FBI banging on his door at six o'clock in the morning uh with CNN alerted beforehand and so on. | ||
| Uh so I I think he I think we're gonna see that he is more deeply implicated in all of this uh than we uh than we understand at the moment. | ||
| I think there will be some uh some uh uh additional counts to these indictments uh layered on here uh in due course. | ||
| Do do you think do you think the reason in 17 that we didn't get the traction goal with the deep state was the very fact of the conspiracy they had to basically take out Trump's major players and also to it he didn't have any who who were his uh who were his uh who was in his cabinet? | ||
| Who you know he he had he they they made sure that he didn't have any reliable uh people next to him? | ||
| And of course, the Department of Justice at that time was littered with people who were uh either feckless or enemies of Trump. | ||
| I mean, his attorney general, the first thing he did was to recuse himself. | ||
| I mean, in other words, he he wasn't as uh as the movie Godfather uh put it, he was not a wartime consigliary, and that's what Trump uh needed. | ||
| That's what he needs now, and I believe that's what he's got was uh with with Pam Bondy Roger, last thing before you go, what what would be indications that uh they're taking it to the next level in 2.0 about getting to the core problems of this government, the deep state, the administrative state. | ||
| Uh for instance, uh the reason Russ Vogt has not pulled the trigger on a massive rift program is not the Democrats, but it's Wall Street, the corporatist, and Rhino Republicans all over President Trump this weekend saying, oh no, no, no, no, no, we can't do that. | ||
| It'll cause chaos. | ||
| So what what what's the indicator you're looking for to show that we're going next level? | ||
| Well, I think if we we need some serious uh we need more indictments. | ||
| It would be nice to see some people actually held to account for uh their assault on the Constitution and the office of the presidency. | ||
| Um I think it will probably happen. | ||
| I would not be at all surprised some people say I'd say fantasy, but I would not be at all surprised to see Hillary Clinton indicted. | ||
| Um personally, I think she should be. | ||
| But uh we'll see. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| It's it's it's you say we're burning daylight. | ||
| We are, but you know, he's done an extraordinary amount in seven or eight months. | ||
| Accomplish more, I think, than any president of the United States, including FDR has done in his first 250 days has been extraordinary. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Roger, what are your coordinates? | ||
| Where do people get where do people get? | ||
| You've got a book publishing company, you write articles, you write books. | ||
| Where do people go for all of it? | ||
| Uh well, Twitter is our X is probably a good place because everything winds up there. | ||
| I'm just starting the substack very soon, but there we are. | ||
| That's just my name at uh at X. Wow. | ||
| So I can't I can't wait till you start the Substack. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Roger Kimball, one of the great intellectual lights, public intellectuals of the MAGA movement. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Take care. | ||
| There, I want to use your as the bridge uh to get to Ben Hart, where we're gonna talk about the fall of the French government and uh maybe Ukraine Middle East. | ||
| Uh, yesterday, you've been a great uh you're a great theoretician and strategist about naval strategy. | ||
| You also know a couple three things about uh the invasion in our country and demand and the terrorism, and you've been one of the architects uh behind the scenes of some of these terrorist ideas in how to get things rolled up in places like Portland and Chicago. | ||
| Uh give me your thoughts on on uh what Roger Kimball just said that 2.0 is very different than 1.0, and where does 2.0 take us, sir? | ||
| Well, uh Roger is uh exactly right in terms of uh the the direction is a very positive direction. | ||
| Burning daylight, to be sure, as he stressed, and as you have uh many times uh in terms of what we need to accomplish. | ||
| Uh the first administration was uh uh clearly uh in so many respects, right? | ||
| Essentially an ISR mission, right? | ||
| Essentially intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance, finding out uh what needs to be done and how to get it done. | ||
| Now with the second administration, that's being uh implemented. | ||
| I don't think anybody is satisfied, of course, uh with the totality of what needs to be done, but uh in a practical sense, Steve, so much has been accomplished uh in these months um by uh uh by the administration. | ||
| We're really have just gone through, however, the first layer or the second layer of really the nine layers of Troy, right? | ||
| Uh Schleiman had to go through uh eight different Troys to get to the historical Troy, right? | ||
| So we've gone through maybe the first layer and the second layer, but we've got so many to do. | ||
| Going after the law firms, which uh President Trump did, that's tremendous progress going after the universities, uh certainly. | ||
| But I was also struck by what Marjorie Taylor Green said when you interviewed her last week. | ||
| None of this is essentially um institutionalized, right? | ||
| We Congress hasn't done anything uh of note uh in the president's agenda. | ||
| And so, as you again have stressed many times, they're just waiting them out. | ||
| They're waiting President Trump out. | ||
| So much has done been done with executive orders, so much has been done really in moving ahead with as on September 25th, the identification of domestic terrorist organizations going after Antifa, the donors of the Democrats, the media, the Democratic Party, of course, politicians are going to be wrapped up uh in that as well. | ||
| Roger stressed the indictments. | ||
| That's critically important for accountability, uh, which is absolutely necessary. | ||
| Um but in 2.0 in the second uh Trump administration, there also has to be the very positive agenda of uh making life better, of course, for uh working people, for the American people, uh, for those who voted for him, and are fundamentally uh the base. | ||
| Trump is working on that as administration is, but he's not getting help from anybody uh in essence on that agenda. | ||
| In the Republican Party, in uh on the Hill, uh, or Republican donors or big tech uh or others who might be helping him uh but who are not. | ||
| Fundamentally, Steve, to my mind, the greatest accomplishment of what President Trump is doing in the second term is restoring the American spirit. | ||
| He has touched on this directly or indirectly since the election. | ||
| When he went to Notre Dame, if you remember in Paris in December, right? | ||
| That was a theme really of his presence there. | ||
| It was in his inauguration. | ||
| And we saw it most recently in Quantico. | ||
| Um last week, uh, when he addressed, of course, the Admirals and the generals. | ||
| And then yesterday, of course, uh, in his speech uh to uh uh to the Navy celebrating the 250th uh anniversary of the Navy, reawakening the American spirit, reaching out to Western civilization, right? | ||
| That were also seeing allies in the UK with uh United the Kingdoms at Tommy Robinson and others, Nigel Farage, uh groups, of course, in Italy, uh, France, uh, uh, Germany, uh, and elsewhere. | ||
| I think it's fundamentally the most important thing that he's accomplished thus far. | ||
| Much to be done in that regard, uh, to be sure, but reawakening the American spirit, which entails a we away a reawakening of a renaissance of Western civilization, uh, is so important, and what he's um driving at. | ||
| So many layers uh to go through, much to be accomplished. | ||
| Again, burning daylight as we always stress. | ||
| But that is uh, I think for Trump will be remembered for many things. | ||
| Um, but to my mind, uh, that's one of the most fundamental things for which he's going to be remembered uh and um is going to accomplish in his in his time remaining uh in office. | ||
| Again, much has been done, but much more uh to be done uh in that regard. | ||
| So he's clearing the layers out, many layers to go through as the archaeologist. | ||
| Uh, but he's uh got his uh essentially hammer and tongs, or he's got his trowel, or whatever archaeologists use as their tool uh to go through those layers uh very importantly. | ||
| Hang on, I'm gonna ask you about the uh geopolitics of the Navy demonstration yesterday. | ||
| Ben Harnwell's also with us from our Rome Bureau, the International Bureau. | ||
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| Okay, Dr. Thayer, yesterday's commemoration celebration on Navy 250. | ||
| President Trump clearly got his batteries recharged. | ||
| What is our allies were watching? | ||
| Our enemies were watching. | ||
| The deep state was watching, uh, and folks here in the United States was were watching. | ||
| Uh, your thoughts, sir. | ||
| Well, my thoughts are these. | ||
| Uh, first, it was uh an extremely important event because uh the military and each military service, of course, is a product of a country. | ||
| It's a product of the society. | ||
| So uh the U.S. Navy is a product of America and American greatness. | ||
| And the best of what America is was on display yesterday, as it was on June 14th in the Army's 250 birthday, uh, and it will be again on November 10th uh when we celebrate uh the Marine Corps. | ||
| So uh that was uh extremely important, and it it really ties into a restoration of the American spirit, which President Trump is advancing. | ||
| Recognizing what these services have accomplished, uh what they have done through their august history is absolutely important. | ||
| Additionally, it's right to celebrate the Navy and the other services because by so doing you educate and inspire Americans. | ||
| Uh recruitment is uh uh is uh uh recruitment problems under Biden have disappeared now. | ||
| People want to join the services. | ||
| Um it also reminds our friends and our enemies uh of American power, right? | ||
| The U.S. Army and the U.S. Navy are formidable fighting uh services, uh, the world's most formidable. | ||
| They've never failed to meet their missions. | ||
| Uh, and those missions are multiple, of course, but they've never failed to meet any of them. | ||
| If we're talking about the Navy from the Gator Navy in support of amphibious operations to see dominance, uh, of course, of the of the uh the big fleet. | ||
| So it educates Americans, it sends messages to friends and foes uh that the Americans do indeed, as Teddy Roosevelt said, have a very big stick in the United States uh Navy. | ||
| It also gave us, I think finally, Steve, the occasion to reflect on the history, but also prospectively to look to the future. | ||
| Um it was to recognize what the Navy had done in conjunction with sister services uh throughout the history of the United States Navy. | ||
| Lake Champlain, for example, saved the United States in the War of 1812, the Battle of Lake Champlain, when the British were trying to split uh New England from the rest of the United States and might have gotten away with it, or the three battles of the Atlantic, of course, in World War I, World War II and the Cold War. | ||
| Uh the sacrifice of American uh submariners, of course, in World War II, when we lost 52 submarines, uh basically about 20% of uh submariners horrific casualties that they suffered. | ||
| But prospectively, it allows us to appreciate that as the Navy says says, uh ships don't fight, but men do, right? | ||
| It's the morale of the U.S. Navy and of the services, it's the recognition of the great admirals and other leaders, as well as enlisted leader, chief petty officers who've led uh the Navy, who've dealt with the adverse challenges the Navy has faced as a service, uh, but also to meet the challenges that we face today. | ||
| Uh whether that's going to be in the Pacific facing uh the uh Chinese communist parties, uh people, liberation, army, navy, which is formidable challenge or other challenges that we're face uh around the globe. | ||
| The Navy is there, a forward deployed force and ready uh to fight. | ||
| So despite the challenges, right, which are going to be considerable, and much needs to be done in terms of the infrastructure of the shipbuilding as Was stressed uh yesterday and some other elements. | ||
| We need to recognize that the Navy has contributed mightily, of course, to American security, has never failed in any of its missions, and it and its sister services, of course, are a product of what makes America great, but also a reflection of the greatness of the American experiment of American society. | ||
| And thank goodness we've had so many men and women who are willing to serve, have served in the past, are presently serving and will serve uh in the future to ensure the United States uh is uh safe and and and secure. | ||
| So it was a great day. | ||
| Uh and it's right and proper that we take we stop a moment and reflect on really what the military has provided us and what the military gives society, but at the same time, what the military draws uh from uh American society at the uh at the same time. | ||
| So great occasion, and November 10th for the Marine Corps, great uh I'm sure will be uh will be as well. | ||
| There'll be the there'll be some announcements later in the week about Marine Corps 250, of course, uh Real America's Voice World will do an entire live production on that for the entire day when it's announced. | ||
| Um Dr. Thayer, social media, where do people go to get your writings? | ||
| Uh Steve Brad Therr at X for Bradley Theron Getter uh and uh at uh Truth as well. | ||
| Thanks very much, Steve, for doing that for the Army on June 14th, and then for the Navy uh yesterday, and then uh I would anticipate for the Marine Corps uh on the 10th. | ||
| It's very valuable to have that coverage. | ||
| West Point. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Dr. Thayer, thank you so much. | ||
| Look forward to having you on Marine Corps 250. | ||
| Dr. Thayer, one of the smartest geopolitical minds around. | ||
| So uh Ben Harnwell, we got Ukraine, we have the Middle East, but I want to get in front of people something that's going to be quite important here very shortly. | ||
| The fall of France. | ||
| Um I've been very vocal, uh, Ben, as you know, about talking about the coming civil war in the United Kingdom unless dramatic uh action is taken. | ||
| I don't actually think it can wait for a Nigel Farage uh premiership or being prime minister that could take place in I guess four years. | ||
| I think action needs to be taken in England now. | ||
| I know that your beloved mother country. | ||
| Um in France, I actually think France is in worse shape when you look under the hood. | ||
| And today, a government that came in 28 days ago, uh, fell after 14 hours of naming their new cabinet. | ||
| Why is this debt and deficits? | ||
| Also the Islamization of French society. | ||
| Give me uh walk our audience through. | ||
| We got Ukraine, uh you got the Middle East. | ||
| But this situation in Western Europe and France, and this is what galls me so much, brother. | ||
| You and I talked. | ||
| Marcron came here six weeks ago and and sat in the Oval Office, and he's the biggest talker. | ||
| You know, he's little Napoleon. | ||
| He's gonna provide troops, he's gonna do this, he's gonna do that. | ||
| They're stone cold broke on the verge of bankruptcy. | ||
| Uh they can't sell a 30-year bond because people don't know if they're going to be around in 30 years. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, the floor is yours, sir. | ||
| Well, so many of these themes. | ||
| Good evening to you, Steve. | ||
| So many of these themes that you just mentioned in your question, um joined together. | ||
| The the Ukraine situation, the French political instability, the UK instability. | ||
| There's a there is a relationship between these things. | ||
| Um but starting off from the bonds, the third 30 year bonds. | ||
| Let's just always remember now as we're talking about France, that a couple of weeks ago, Fitch, one of the four great ratings agencies of sovereign debt downgraded France, because not only its present dire financial situation, but the the perpet perpetual uh future, the instability in the future uh meant that it's um the confidence in the in its bonds um was now starting to fault. | ||
| I think it was it was it was a downgrade from something like triple A to A or something like that. | ||
| It was it was slight, but it was significant for for a Eurozone country. | ||
| And Steve, as you always say, the bond market gets a vote. | ||
| So that's the the the French situation. | ||
| Now people perhaps following this from the United States might not have heard of Sebastian Laconu. | ||
| Um As you say he was only nominated less than a month ago as Prime Minister. | ||
| Within 24 hours of naming his cabinet, it was it was no confidence in parliament. | ||
| There are technical reasons as to why the Republicans, the centre-right political faction with about 50 deputies pulled out of this coalition so soon. | ||
| They say they opposed the nomination of former finance minister Bruno Le Maire as defence minister on the grounds of his profligacy when he was... | ||
| When he was uh five finance minister, it stretches credibility somewhat to think that's the real issue. | ||
| I think the situation is is that the political parties in the French National Assembly, Steve, realize that Macron's personal ratings are now through the floor. | ||
| Um obviously he's not going to want to call fresh elections. | ||
| He did that last year, and that's what really hamstrung him in terms of the the situation in Parliament, now the French Parliament, where there is no party that that is able to command an overall. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, just explain it to me. | ||
| How can they continue? | ||
| I mean, in the parliamentary system you'd have in England, you'd be calling new elections. | ||
| How can he keep rotating guys? | ||
| Are they the ones that try to put together a coalition that's an anti-Front National? | ||
| And is he have the ability to keep just tossing the baton to somebody until they get something that can last longer? | ||
| I mean, this latest government was 28 days, brother. | ||
| Fourteen hours after they announced the cabinet. | ||
| And here's the problem. | ||
| This is why folks here in the United States got to understand. | ||
| This is what this could be us. | ||
| This is about deficits at 7% of GDP. | ||
| They can't finance it because they ain't the prime reserve currency. | ||
| We can keep printing money. | ||
| Did I mention gold? | ||
| Close to 4,000. | ||
| Uh, this is one of the reasons. | ||
| In France, they don't have that luxury. | ||
| They've got to make significant cuts to budget. | ||
| They first tried it, what about six months ago or a year ago, when they tried to take it out of domestic programs for the workers and saved all their empire, particularly in the Levant and uh in North Africa. | ||
| And this is where Front National goes, no, we're not doing that. | ||
| We're gonna we're not an imperial power anymore. | ||
| Macron, you've got to give up the the uh the you know the your your belief that you're the new Napoleon. | ||
| We need to stop that. | ||
| But they still haven't sorted this out. | ||
| The reason these governments don't get any traction is they haven't dealt with the tough issues of actually how they're gonna bring their spending in line with their revenues, which is a massive gap. | ||
| Ben Harnwell. | ||
| Where to start, Steve? | ||
| Um yeah, France isn't an imperial power anymore. | ||
| It was um it was a colonial power, but it's now really much been overrun by its former colonists. | ||
| In terms of the financial discipline, I have to say, to give Macron his due, he did try to bring the the very generous French welfare system under control, reducing by a year um or extending by a year uh the the age at which French uh are g uh become pensioners going take their pension, retire. | ||
| Um it was like from 60 to 61 or something ridiculous like that. | ||
| Um and that's really one of the things you hit on it here. | ||
| This is really one of the things that he's going to try to keep this going for for two years and not call elections again, because he wants to safeguard that uh that that that that um that reform that's very unpopular with the French people. | ||
| Um but the problem is, you know, that in and itself can probably be welcome, Steve, but the problem is how do you tell the French? | ||
| Uh I don't want to say that they are sort of notoriously lazy on the war room, but the French are notoriously lazy. | ||
| How do you tell them once you force them to spend an extra year going through the motions of actually working and producing something when at the same time you can find money for Ukraine? | ||
| That that's the problem that hits the heart of the of the French situation and also the British system and right across. | ||
| Look, having mentioned Ukraine. | ||
| I want to stay on the French political situation, but I have to quickly get Ukraine in. | ||
| Right back three years ago when this war started, Steve, We said on this show, once this had become apparently uh clear that it was apparent uh that it was a war of attrition. | ||
| We said on this show, this war isn't going to be won on the battlefield in Donbass or anywhere else in Ukraine. | ||
| It will be it will be finished decisively in the ballot boxes of the European nations and the American uh, you know, the the countries that are financing the Ukraine end of the attrition war. | ||
| So something that happened yesterday, which is extremely important, and that's the fact that in the Czech Republic, they now have Czechia, as it's now called. | ||
| Andrei uh Babish is the the new Prime Minister. | ||
| He was Prime Minister a few years ago. | ||
| Uh important, I'm flagging this up, Steve, because he won on an anti-Ukraine uh platform, and it now looks as if he's going to go into coalition with the anti-NATO and anti-EU SPD to get himself uh the 108 uh deputies to form the next government uh in in the Czech Parliament. | ||
| That's important because he's now able to ally himself with Robert Fizzo in Slovakia, the war room possible member that the assassinate the abortive assassination attempt on him uh last year, and also Viktor Orban in in Hungary. | ||
| So you now have three countries that are quite openly agitating against continuing continuing to finance this war in Ukraine. | ||
| So let's park that there and just say that there is movement going on on the on the on the on the domestic political front in Europe, and that's this is very important as the way things go forward. | ||
| Let's go back to France. | ||
| You mentioned the arithmetic, okay. | ||
| So that my by my calculation, Steve, the far right and the left wing uh hold 320 in the French National Assembly, whereas the centrists and the allied conservatives got up to 210. | ||
| So it really is an attempt to stop the inevitable from happening. | ||
| The big question, I think, for the for the French Republic, specifically specifically the judiciary, their magistracy, is whether they're going to allow Marine Le Pen to appeal her prohibit her five-year prohibition on public office uh before the the next presidential elections are uh set for 2027. | ||
| Uh at the moment she's prohibited. | ||
| Quite unusually in in continental Europe, they said that the the earliest the lower court sentence was executive, that's to say, in effect, um, even before she'd exhausted all of her stages of appeal, which is not normal for the European system. | ||
| So that so they pulled that blinder to block her, but it's Steve is looking very seriously like if she's allowed to stand, she will undoubtedly win the next presidential election because this whole Macron government now serves or not non-government, its sole function for the next two years is to stop the national rally from winning the presidency and the the legislative assembly at the next election. | ||
| Okay, we're gonna hang we're gonna hang on there. | ||
| I want to delve more into the Czech situation tomorrow and the next day, a very, very, very important, particularly a guy that's now considered the a populist, right? | ||
| They're all populists, everybody wants to be a populist. | ||
| Um Ben Harnwell, your commentary and observations on Getter are second to none. | ||
| What is your social media? | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| Steve, you always say they to talking about Andre Babish, that they uh in general, right? | ||
| You always say they all come around in the end, uh, and he is being described as the Czech Trump. | ||
| To some degree of fairness, that that is an accurate description of him. | ||
| Okay, I'm on Get It's my social media platform of choice, tap in my surname Harwell, and you will find lots of offensive gratuitous provocations at the top of my feed, awaiting your attention and amusement. | ||
| Thanks, Steve, God bless. | ||
| Yeah, like like you would never, you would never ever say uh the French are lazy uh on war room, except the French are lazy. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| On Wednesdays, real quickly, give me uh 30 seconds on the Wednesday show, and now every so often your Friday show. | ||
| Steve, on Wednesday, we have the show, it's building quite a following actually. | ||
| It's unusual for a largely evangelical audience to for a program to try this, but we have, I think, one of the most important shows on traditional Catholicism on the war room every Wednesday um evening, not exclusively Catholicism, but we're really drilling down now in the most flagrant abusive uh what we call a middle finger in your face from the from the so-called Pope. | ||
| Um and it's we're starting to create ripples on that. | ||
| And on Friday, Steve, we have one hour just to go in depth with European figures who are involved in some way in breaking news. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| There's two shows that are incredible. | ||
| You break a lot of news on there. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, thank you so much for joining us on this Monday to kick the week off in the war room. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| God bless. | ||
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