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Oct. 1, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4819: Downfall Of Portland; Breaking Big Tech And Chat Bots Encouraging Suicide
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josh hawley
08:29
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steve bannon
20:43
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ben bergquam
01:28
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chris hoar
03:07
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dan schultz
02:27
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jillian barberie
02:27
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mike lindell
01:25
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sheila matthews
02:50
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steve stern
01:01
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jake tapper
00:10
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unidentified
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
steve bannon
It's going to happen.
unidentified
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
jake tapper
MAGA Media.
unidentified
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Okay, it's Wednesday, 1 October, Year of Our Lord 2025.
steve bannon
We're absolutely packed in this hour, but we're going to carve out as much time as we need.
We're going to go back to Portland and to Ben Berquam.
First off, Ben, your interview with the ICE official was incredible.
She just walks through very plainly what they're trying to do to end the invasion of this country and to begin the process of mass deportations.
unidentified
Okay, they're just doing their jobs as federal officials under the auspices of the chief executive officer of the U.S. government.
steve bannon
That would be a guy named Donald J. Trump.
unidentified
And now your interview with Rick is incredible.
I want to start at the top.
steve bannon
We're pressed for time, but I want to go back to citizens of this country, regardless of their politics, where are the liberals and progressives, can't live besieged by terrorists and the people that support them.
unidentified
Because remember, Ben, the reason the president, one of the reasons President Trump had the victory for four years, actually for five, we did it even during President Trump's presidency, but then ramped it up when the invasion started on the southern border.
And you were so eloquent in what you said yesterday.
steve bannon
This is not chaos, not disorganization.
It's highly organized by Antifa and the NGOs, just like the invasion was highly, highly choreographed and coordinated.
unidentified
It was not, as Todd Bensman, who's now in the government working over with Homan, used to tell us every day.
This is highly organized.
This is how they're trying to get in as many people as possible, illegal aliens, into the country.
So talk to, you take the interview and just go ahead.
steve bannon
I know Rick doesn't have comms with us.
unidentified
You go ahead and let it rip, sir.
Yeah, no, so that's it.
ben bergquam
Just to give you an idea.
unidentified
So I just want to give you, again, we're going to start at the beginning.
We've got the ICE facility behind us.
ben bergquam
The entire building has had to be boarded up to protect because they've got projectiles being thrown at it.
unidentified
It's been firebombed, Maltoff cocktails, all of that.
And ironically, or you want to be really pissed, the city is actually now trying to attack the building for putting that up.
They're saying it's a code violation.
ben bergquam
While you have that going on, you have all these leftists out here that are aiding and abetting, working with Antifa and all these groups to undermine our country.
unidentified
And right next door to where all this is happening, you've got people having to live here in these buildings.
ben bergquam
Rick is one of those people.
unidentified
Rick, walk us through what the last nine months has been like living here with this insanity.
I mean, basically, every single day I come out here, I walk my dog four times a day.
I get called Nazi.
They scream at me.
They give me a hard time.
They say they're peaceful, but they're not peaceful.
They're very aggressive, especially at night.
I mean, the day crew is not so bad, but at nighttime, I can't even come out here.
My neighbors, most of the females that are in here, they're terrified to come even come out.
So they have to text me so that I can come out and help them.
It's just ridiculous.
And they're not accomplishing anything.
They've been here for 115 days, and they're yelling at an empty building.
They've literally accomplished zero.
Are you, you know, Portland tends to be a pretty liberal city?
ben bergquam
Are you starting to see that shift where even liberals are saying enough, we're tired of it, people that live in here?
unidentified
I think the ones that are more centrist are moving away from that.
You know, the radical left, they're the radical left.
I mean, they're, you know, there's they're not going to change.
That's what these people are.
But the people I think that are more in the center, I think I see them shifting a little bit.
And how tough is it?
You were talking about your girlfriend and some of the elderly ladies that live here.
What is that like?
ben bergquam
I mean, terrorism is a word that's thrown around.
unidentified
What is it like actually living here?
ben bergquam
When you have a mayor that says there's no problem, it's all under control.
unidentified
The governor says there's no problem.
They're not doing anything.
I mean, they care more about the terrorists than about the people here.
The police do nothing.
The city council, they're complicit.
I think they are Antifa.
They allow this.
They enable this.
So it's, yeah, it's just.
It's just absolutely out of control.
It's out of control.
Ben, just ask Rick.
No, ask Rick, is he thoughtful?
steve bannon
Because we're playing both your footage and Andy Nose footage that is unbelievable from last night.
unidentified
Is Rick or at least certain people there, the women that can't go tonight, are people appreciative of the fact that President Trump has now said, we're not going to play this game anymore.
I'm sending people in and we're going to clean this mess up?
Yeah, so by the way, Rick is a big War Room Posse fan, but that's the question.
ben bergquam
Are the folks like you that live here that have to go through this every day, are you appreciative of President Trump saying he's going to come in and clean it up?
unidentified
Absolutely.
They can't send those people in here, the National Guard in here fast enough.
Come in here and wipe these people out.
I'm done with it.
I'm done with it.
Yeah.
Can't happen fast enough.
Ben, thank Rick and tell him to be safe.
Be safe.
Thank you, brother.
You got it, brother.
God bless you.
Thank you.
ben bergquam
Thank you, sir.
unidentified
Anything you want to say to Steve?
No.
Actually, yeah, Steve, I love you, man.
You're the best.
Hey, Rick.
That's dirty going.
We love you too.
You were in Fort Apache.
Fort Apache.
steve bannon
Ben, hang on for a second.
unidentified
I'm going to come back to you in a minute, okay?
steve bannon
Just stay right there.
We're going to get back to Ben Berquam.
unidentified
If you saw that footage, Andy Nose got it up, and Ben Berquam, of course, he was with the ICE guys last night.
When Rick, the citizen, says, hey, the building's empty, is it because they surrounded every night?
And heretofore, federal officials, et cetera, have not wanted to force the subject.
I think that's going to change.
I really think that's going to change.
steve bannon
I think President Trump is coming down to the conclusion that, hey, it's not going to change until we make a change.
unidentified
And that's what you saw federal officials last night.
steve bannon
Look at those arrests in some of that footage.
unidentified
At least seven people arrested last night.
And you've got to clean the whole thing up.
And I would go with the NGOs and roll them up, too.
Just like they were at the border.
Look, look, nobody wanted to cover this.
And I really appreciate Robin Parker Sig and Real America's voice giving us the platform and actually helping assist us to get the investigative reporters down there.
But Oscar Blue Ramirez, Ben Berquam, and others, dozens and dozens of others reported this for years and years and years and showed you the entire thing and all the lies of the Biden regime.
This is one of the reasons people said we've had enough of this.
We see it in our communities now.
We know Biden's lying to us.
And look at that.
steve bannon
President Trump shut down the board in the first, what, 30 days or 60 days of this administration, of his second term?
unidentified
This is what President Trump called.
They called them together the other state.
And that wasn't just the Secretary of War telling them, hey, you're not in shape.
You got to get in better shape.
They kind of do that every Friday in the military anyway.
Part of it was that, and we're going to fight with Frosty and Precision.
But the buried lead was the commander-in-chief saying, hey, look, we're going to win all over the world.
We're going to win these wars now.
You saw what I did with the B-2s and the total obliteration of the Iranian nuclear weapons program, right?
steve bannon
Total obliteration.
unidentified
That's the way we're going to roll.
steve bannon
However, we have an issue before us we have to address, and that is our country has been invaded.
unidentified
There's certain elements that are out of control, and the violence is escalating, and that's not going to happen on my watch, full stop.
That was the purpose of Donald Trump's address to 800 flag officers yesterday for the first time in American history face to face, right?
And I think they took it on board.
steve bannon
And you see what's happening here in Portland, and you see what's happening in a place like Chicago with the crime being out of control and the gangs being out of control.
And soon it's going to happen in New York City because you're about to have the Red-Green Alliance, neo-Marxist with jihadist, control New York City.
It's going to happen.
unidentified
Chris Hoare, now more than ever, in fact, I just went through a personal situation where somebody was remote and had the internet and tele and the wireless communications down for four days.
And man, did they need a satellite phone?
I was going to talk to you later, but talk to people about why now more than ever, with everything going on, you need to be prepared.
steve bannon
You need to think ahead and get ahead of the program here, sir.
unidentified
Well, Steve, yeah, you're absolutely right.
chris hoar
Things are really escalating.
unidentified
Just when we had the last UN meeting, what we saw was the Secret Service managed to take down a network of over 300 SIM servers and 100,000 SIM cards that were set up within 35 miles of the UN to basically flood the cell towers with messages.
And that network of servers had the ability to send up to 30 million messages a minute.
And what that does is that overwhelms the cell towers and therefore effectively takes them offline.
And this was focused around the UN, Steve, but this can happen across the country.
In the last week, we've seen huge attacks on software infrastructures for ticketing systems for airlines, both here in the U.S. and around the world that causes chaos for flights.
And this is a pattern that we've been seeing for the last several years of bad state actors basically testing out how they can influence and disrupt our communications networks and our infrastructure in general.
And so we have to be prepared for this.
And the only way to do that is to have a communication system that does not rely on these cell towers and the power grid.
And that's, of course, SAP phones, Steve.
chris hoar
So SAT123.com, we still have the free SAP phone with activation.
unidentified
And right now, we're doing the free satellite phone with the free bulletproof backpack.
Obviously, a lot of places in this country are getting more and more dangerous.
But a free sat phone and a free bulletproof backpack, you're paying just $95 a month.
You're getting 150 minutes.
But this SAP phone will enable you to stay in touch.
If the cell towers get taken down, if the power grid gets taken down, you are not going to be without communication.
Just like your friend discovered there, you don't want to be without communication.
I was in a situation five days, no comps.
I had to go down, had to drive down to a local village and get comps.
I want you to go back, though.
I want you to connect dots.
steve bannon
This whole thing with the airports being shut down and this whole cybersecurity attacks, some in Europe, some here in the United States.
unidentified
Is that directly tied?
steve bannon
Do you think that's directly tied to what happened in the UN?
unidentified
And just take a second because we haven't had a chance to cover it.
steve bannon
This massive thing the Secret Service and other federal agencies found about in New York.
unidentified
What was that specifically?
Well, it was this network of servers was designed to cause what they call a denial of distributed denial of service attack.
chris hoar
And we're used to websites being attacked like this, but this kind of a new development of this equipment being used to disrupt cell towers.
unidentified
And that very clearly, I think, is tied to what's going on with other cyber attacks around the world.
Because the end result is, is that our infrastructure is taken offline.
And that is designed to cause chaos in the U.S.
And look, if I was looking to attack a country, the first thing that I would do and others are doing is figuring out how they can cause chaos so that everyone's looking the other way and nobody can communicate.
chris hoar
And, you know, if you're out of communications for five days, a lot can happen in that time.
You don't want to be in that situation.
unidentified
Either we as a country or you as an individual with your family, you do not want to be left without any kind of communications.
But Steve, I certainly believe that all of these attacks are part of a bigger plan to disrupt the infrastructure here in the U.S. and cause chaos on the streets.
Folks, it's all part of a, it's all a piece of a hole.
You got to get ahead of this.
steve bannon
You need to get prepared now.
unidentified
Remember, we're not, I'm not running around with my hero fire.
Hey, you got to do it.
steve bannon
No, but you get the logical people.
unidentified
The My Patriot Supply guys and Chris Hoare come on here.
These are professionals that do this for a living.
steve bannon
This is why four years ago we started with Birch Gold.
unidentified
I said, no, we're not going to sell gold on War Room.
steve bannon
Everybody else does all their podcasters.
However, if you're ready to partner up and walk people through why gold has been a hedge and particularly in today's times, that was four years ago.
It was $1,100 an ounce.
$3,900 today.
unidentified
This has nothing to do with financial forecasting.
steve bannon
It's just we're in a fourth turning, okay?
And things are going to get crazier.
unidentified
They're going to get crazier.
They're going to get crazier.
Chris Hoare, one more time, where do they go?
To the satellite phone store, sir.
They can go to sat123.com, s-at-p-123.com, or call 941-841-0844.
Steve, that's 941-841-0844.
chris hoar
You get a free sat phone, a free bulletproof backpack, just 95 bucks a month for that activation.
unidentified
Amazing.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
unidentified
Chris Hoare and the team over at Sat Phone Store.
steve bannon
It's going to get crazier.
Take your number two purnce out and write that down.
unidentified
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Okay.
We got a lot of moving pieces and Brian Glenn's going to have a huge story for us probably this afternoon.
I don't know if we can get anyone for a hit this morning.
Senator Hawley, if he's out of these meetings, is going to join us also.
steve bannon
I want to go to Jillian Barbie.
So Jillian, by the way, good news, folks.
Gold 3,900.
unidentified
That's all good.
steve bannon
Pattern recognition.
unidentified
We got all kinds of information there to make you a genius.
We do.
We will.
You will become.
You'll become smarter than the guys on Wall Street.
steve bannon
I will tell you that by reading this.
Guaranteed.
unidentified
Because they all mocked us a couple of years ago.
Budget deficit.
I got to get that number.
I think it's $2 trillion this fiscal year.
Just ended last night at midnight.
What does that mean?
steve bannon
It ties to, let me give you some bad news.
unidentified
Yesterday, I think it was reported, and I keep telling you, the OECD is an official organization with the Organization of Economic Development in Europe, the OECD, huge organization.
We're a big part of the United States.
When you take the ambassadorship to that, you get like a 15-room mansion in Paris.
So it's a good gig.
They put out a report, Financial Times of London, broke it down.
We are now globally $338 trillion of global debt.
steve bannon
And I mean, that's everything.
unidentified
That's national debt, regional debt, municipal debt.
I don't care if you're a city in India or local waterworks or something in Topeka, Kansas, right?
steve bannon
All federal debt, personal debt, junk bonds, add it all up.
Something called debt: $338 trillion.
unidentified
The point the OECD made in the Financial Times is that the world is kind of over-leveraged, okay?
And I keep saying we're going to have the world's biggest margin call.
And when that happens, Katie bar the door.
You're going to be glad you're in gold, okay?
Because these fiat currencies are all suddenly going to look like you're going to understand what fiat means.
So, one of the biggest parts of that, the problems for people under 35 years old, first off, the student debt is that what they did to these kids is absolutely horrendous.
That's another topic.
But credit card debt, your debt, now at all-time highs, and also now all-time non-performing.
So, what do you do about it?
steve bannon
This is just like the IRS situation.
unidentified
Nothing has your angst more than three things: losing your job, right, in this environment.
Number two, I got a problem with the IRS.
And, oh, by the way, I got a problem with these credit cards.
And I'm behind, I can't pay.
I'm getting these letters.
Once again, what you cannot do is just put the letter in the drawer.
That does not solve the problem.
It metastasizes.
Ginian Barbary's here has just done such a great job with the done for debt crowd.
steve bannon
These guys can take care of the problem immediately.
unidentified
And people need, if you want to get that angst and anxiety away, and you know what it is like, Jillian, you must deal with this today.
steve bannon
Talk to us about it.
unidentified
Yeah, you forgot the fourth one, cancer.
I had that at my door as well.
It was knock-knock, and it was the Grim Reaper who was there, death and taxes.
Done with debt is the way to go.
And I'm just going to explain last night, I was going through a feed and on TikTok on the younger side of things.
They have all of these: get $5,000 now, fix your problem.
And of course, when you look into it, you owe, you'll end up owing $10,000 on that $5,000.
So, you know, if you are young, if you're going into retirement and you found yourself just living life and you're in debt, this is the way to go.
It's called done with debt.
What is it?
Well, we are a team of financial experts.
I'm just the mouthpiece.
They're the experts that get together and look at your situation.
And they are master negotiators.
So they can take any of your debt and work magic with it.
Now, I'm not saying it happens overnight.
You have to work with them.
jillian barberie
Do not stuff an envelope in a drawer.
unidentified
Before you do anything else, if you're watching Steve Bannon's show right now, don't pay another bill until you get your free consultation with Done with Debt because they're going to tell you, and you can go online and read all of the testimonials.
There are many people that they've helped over the years.
And what they'll do is get you back on track to financial freedom.
They'll work with all the people that are calling you late at night, that are hassling you, that are mailing you.
They work with the credit card companies, the banking institutions.
jillian barberie
They can sometimes get your debt wiped right out, some of it, at least, and that's a start.
unidentified
And they can certainly get you on a program of paying back that you can live with, that you can actually still feed your family and go to work and get gas for your car and maybe have a night out with the family.
You know, they're not, you know, they're not evil.
They want you to have a life, but they also want you to get back on track because, you know, it's so easy in this environment to get off track.
And so, if you don't, hang on, hang on.
steve bannon
They're not evil.
unidentified
They're not evil, but they want their money.
Okay.
They want their money.
These were unsecured loans, and they're going to show you about how your name and reputation and security.
This is, you also can't just people say, well, I'll just go into bankruptcy.
If you go into bankruptcy, you're never going to be able to get an apartment.
You're not going to be able to get a car loan.
That thing will trail with you.
steve bannon
My point is, there are other alternatives, but until you take action and it needs to come from you and the audience, just don't sit there and don't put the letter in the drawer.
unidentified
It's just metastasizing.
steve bannon
One more time, Jillian, where they go, who they talk to today, right now, to make sure they can start sorting this problem out.
unidentified
Go to donewithdebt.com.
You get a free consultation.
jillian barberie
The last thing they want to do is push you into bankruptcy or a big, big conglomerated loan.
They don't want that.
unidentified
So this is the way to get yourself back on track.
jillian barberie
Look at the testimonies, and you'll see you're with the right people.
They are, when I say master negotiators, these are the best of the best, Steve.
unidentified
Thank you, ma'am.
Appreciate you.
steve bannon
We're going to be spending a lot of time on this because of the simple fact that this credit card debt situation, because they fed credit cards to everybody, the credit card companies.
unidentified
I'm not saying they're the villains here, but they're the villains here.
And now people have got to pay for it.
Here's the thing.
They will go in, they will cap the interest rates.
steve bannon
They may get a haircut to your total face amount as they negotiate for you because by the time the credit card companies come out after you, they've already written it off.
unidentified
So anything they get back is juice.
That's why you need an expert.
steve bannon
You can't do this yourself.
unidentified
You're never going to be able to negotiate yourself.
And don't take the easy path out where people say, oh, we'll just go into bankruptcy.
That thing will follow you for a long time.
Okay.
Do I have Sheila?
Let's go ahead and play cold open for Sheila Matthews, my wingman on one of my favorite topics.
Let's go ahead and let her rip.
In the days after the murder, as you're trying to bring the country together, Steve Bannon, the philosopher of the MAGA right, called you a national embarrassment.
Yeah.
I love free speech.
I would give my life defending his right to say that about me.
That's okay.
We can have that debate.
There are some people that think I am a national embarrassment, and that's okay too.
Who do you blame for the division?
I do believe that social media is a cancer, and it is taking all of our worst impulses and putting them on steroids.
It is driving us to division.
It is driving us to hate these algorithms that have captured our very souls.
Okay, I went the wrong way.
steve bannon
Okay.
unidentified
Sheila's with us.
By the way, Josh Hawley, I think we're going to get Senator Hawley at the bottom of the hour.
So we're going to hold Sheila over.
Sheila Matthews, and last night he was on the Charlie Kirk, the turning point was back at Utah Valley.
Tyler Boyer was handling, and Cox showed up.
And look, I don't think, I think Tyler and those guys did a great job.
Andy Biggs was there.
Although I don't think they made Cox apologize, he should grovel for saying Charlie said some inflammatory things.
I don't remember that.
Not inflammatory in the war room's perspective.
So he has to explain himself.
But this guy is quite insidious.
He and Jared Polis have gone around and he got this disagree together or kind of the group because he's lying to 60 Minutes.
He's got a Kumbaya thing he's working on, which is essentially the Chinese social credit, the CCP social credit score.
Is it not, ma'am?
Yes.
Let's not forget the governor of Utah is in the midst of an investigation and now trial of a political assassination of Charlie Kirk.
And he is now on the media spreading this dignity index, which is a pilot program of his, which basically is suppression of free speech.
I have two points of the policy that he's pushing.
You know, we are not allowed to mock and attack others, their beliefs, their commitment, their competence, which we should, because this assassination happened in the state of Utah.
He has no competence.
So according to his dignity index, we're not allowed to talk about his competence or his performance under level four.
sheila matthews
Under level seven, he wants to address and admit to mistakes after their investigation fails and this trial fails.
unidentified
And he wants to come together and be less lessons learned.
And that is something they did in the aftermath of Sandy Hook.
This is psychiatry.
This is behavioral health.
And this is suppression of freedom of speech.
So the chairman obviously is pushing an agenda here, which he shouldn't be because he is in charge of what happened in Utah.
Okay.
sheila matthews
He's in charge of the investigation.
unidentified
His sheriff was in charge of collecting the information on the ground.
sheila matthews
His sheriff was the biggest failure on one of these sexual abuse cases in the court system.
unidentified
Okay.
He was a character on A ⁇ E where he allowed people into the prisons to mingle with prisoners.
I mean, this is corruption, and we should be able to point that out.
Hang on one second.
I'm going to hold you over.
She's right.
Right now, we've been trying to force it.
He hasn't been charged with any federal crimes.
So as much as the FBI is helping, they're not running the deal because there's not been any federal charges filed as of yet.
Short commercial break.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Baff.
Okay.
Welcome back.
Senator Josh Hawley joins us.
So, Senator Hawley, Russ Vote's going to come up today and, I think, brief people on what the plan is for deconstruction of the administrative state in the Schumer shutdown.
Leader Thun, I think the strategy is pretty good.
Make them, particularly now it's a byproduct and vote since Nevada and Maine kind of threw in with the Republicans.
Are you guys going to vote every couple hours on this until you break the Democrats?
Well, it sounds like that's the plan, Steve.
Don't understand what the Democrats think they're accomplishing here.
I mean, you're going to shut down the government and have a fit over what?
I mean, what is it exactly?
josh hawley
They can't articulate it.
unidentified
Their demands shift every two days.
We all know what the real, or every two hours, I should say.
We all know what the real thing is here.
They hate Trump.
josh hawley
This is all about Trump.
unidentified
And it's a hissy fit because they just want to hurt Trump.
And, you know, I'm sorry, but I just think the American people are going to look at this and say, hold on, I can't now go to the VA.
If you're a farmer, you can't go to the USDA and get the programs that you've applied for that you're paying for with your tax money, Medicaid reimbursements.
That's all going to stop because the Democrats just don't like the guy who won the election, by the way.
josh hawley
I mean, come on.
unidentified
It's a joke.
But here's the thing, and you've pointed this out in your efforts to reverse all this defund the police madness.
New York's, the vote in New York City with the Working People's Party and the DSA, the combination of neo-Marxism and jihadist.
It's the same thing we just saw out with trying to stop law enforcement officers from implementing the mass deportation programs around ICE.
steve bannon
The violence continues to escalate.
unidentified
The radical left is even more radical than ever.
And they are winning in certain polling and certain Democrat strongholds away from what used to be moderate Democrats, which don't even exist anymore.
So how can he deal with a party that is becoming radicalized and quite frankly pushing the escalation in political violence, sir?
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, this is the question of the day, Steve.
And I just look at the Democrats, the elected Democrats, and I think they've got a choice to make.
You know, I mean, are they actually going to represent the middle-of-the-road, normal constituents, the working-class people?
Democrats are always saying, oh, we're the party of the working class.
josh hawley
Really?
unidentified
I mean, is that right?
You're voting to raise their taxes.
You're voting to make them less safe.
You're voting to offshore their jobs.
Now you're voting to shut down their health care.
josh hawley
I mean, really?
unidentified
You're voting to trans their kids?
josh hawley
I mean, come on.
unidentified
They've got a choice here to make, Steve.
josh hawley
And I think that's what this is really about.
unidentified
This is the Democrat Party melting down before our eyes.
josh hawley
That's why they're lashing out at Trump like this.
unidentified
Now they're shutting down the government because of their own internal divisions.
And I'm afraid it's going to get worse before it gets better, to be honest with you.
Missouri is maybe the most MAGA of the states, particularly the working class part of it.
You're considered one of the leaders of the populist wing of the party.
Where do the folks in Missouri stand on this government shutdown?
What are they telling you?
Oh, they think it's stupid.
They hate it.
I mean, they think it's just classic Washington, D.C., establishment types.
This is how they play the game, Steve, which is why, you know, we ought to ban this and we ought to not do shutdowns or allow them.
We don't in Missouri.
Our Constitution doesn't permit them.
I mean, this is just ridiculous.
And they look at the Democrats.
I think Missourians get it.
They get what's going on here.
They're like, why are the Democrats doing this?
I mean, why are they closing everything?
By the way, every Missourian is still getting taxed to pay for this government that now is not working.
You know, this is a basic we the people moment.
Does the government work for us or are we just here to fund this government no matter what it does?
You know, is the government that's going to be shut down for months on end, but we're going to keep paying our taxes because we really serve the government.
Is that the message?
That seems to be the Democrats' message.
josh hawley
I don't think that's what the people of my state believe.
And they want people up here in D.C. to get to work, you know, get off their butts, get to work, start solving some problems here, start getting jobs back, get wages up, get inflation down, get the cost of health care down, put power back in the hands of working people.
unidentified
That's what we need to be doing.
Democrats are going in the opposite direction.
Russ Vote, I think, is going to go up to the Hill today and brief people on one of the alternatives they've got of since the government's been shut down by the Democrats.
He's got a couple of different alternatives of how you get into either mass layoffs, riffs.
He's got a whole menu.
What are your thoughts on that?
Well, I haven't seen what he's proposed yet, but I just say this to the Democrats.
josh hawley
I mean, listen, they're all crying about the fact, oh, Donald Trump now has more power than ever.
unidentified
I mean, you guys shut down the government.
josh hawley
I mean, you can't have it both ways.
unidentified
You can't whine and fuss and say, oh, the president is acting like a dictator when you shut down the government and now, frankly, put onto the president the decision of designating who's essential, who's non-essential, who's going to work.
I mean, to be honest with you, Steve, what I would urge the president to consider doing is just paying people anyway.
I mean, start with the military.
josh hawley
Our military servicemen and women need to get paid.
They're doing their job.
unidentified
It's ridiculous.
Just because the Democrats don't like Trump, they're not going to get paid.
I think the president ought to say, listen, I'm paying the military.
And if you want to stop me, take me to court.
I think the president should say, for essential services that the American people have paid for and rely on, he's just going to keep them open.
And if the Democrats want to stop that, take him to court.
Get on the side of the people, which is, I think, where the president is.
josh hawley
But I just say again, the Democrats on this are out to lunch.
unidentified
They're off the wall.
They're off, they're totally in far left field.
And I think it's going to backfire.
Senator, you've been one of the voices of reason about this situation with artificial intelligence.
And I think people in the Senate, even across the aisle, who normally you can't reach, are starting to understand that we have a big problem here if this thing's totally unregulated and just allowed to have the oligarchs in Silicon Valley run the deal.
Can you give us up to get us up to speed on your latest work in this area?
Yeah, well, I mean, here's a sample of this, what's going on right now, Steve.
Just this morning, there's news reports now that AI chatbots are out there saying that Charlie Kirk was not actually assassinated, that this was a quote, right-wing terrorist incident, right-wing terrorist incident, as if Charlie was somehow involved in it, as if he deserved to die.
josh hawley
I mean, of course, it's total propaganda, but this is the kind of thing it's going to be censorship on steroids if we allow these AI companies to control all of the news, all of the data, all of the information.
That's what they're doing right now.
unidentified
Those chatbots are also telling our kids how to kill themselves, and their kids are doing it.
And that's not hyperbole.
I've heard from the parents.
We've held hearings on this.
I mean, literally, that's what's happening while the oligarchs make billions of dollars.
What we need to do is put power back into the hands of normal, everyday working Americans.
We need to allow Americans who are harmed by these AI companies, whose kids kill themselves or harm themselves because of these chatbots to be able to sue these companies.
It's a basic American right, the right to defend your own individual rights.
We need to make sure that that remains good and true in this AI age.
The Constitution is still in effect.
You know, AI doesn't wipe out the U.S. Constitution.
josh hawley
The Constitution protects the rights of the individual, and we need to double down on that and protect that from these companies who want to come after our kids, want to come after our rights, want to come after our jobs.
unidentified
And I got no sympathy for the oligarchs.
josh hawley
I just have to tell you, you know, I mean, they're going to do fine.
I'm not worried about them.
I'm worried about the worker out in Missouri who might lose his job.
unidentified
I'm worried about the family who's got a kid who asks a chatbot a question about science and then is told how to put himself in a noose.
I mean, this has got to stop.
We got to hold these people accountable.
You saw, and this gets back to the antitrust where the Trump administration started off.
He's got Gale over at the Antitrust Division.
You got FTC, FCC.
People were, you know, we got Google in court.
You got Facebook in court.
But all of a sudden, guys are trying to cut deals.
And you know, the power, I keep telling people, the power of the oligarchs, they get all the best law firms.
They get all the best crisis PR firms.
They got the best lobbyists because they got so much money.
The power these oligarchs have is personified in DC and the fact that they've kind of got it.
They got us surrounded.
So how do you start to fight back on this?
Well, the antitrust is a key part of it.
I'm glad you brought that up.
You know, the president has a tremendous record on antitrust.
He started it in his first term.
And we got to keep the pedal to the metal on that.
And I just urge DOJ, don't let up now.
I mean, you've taken these guys to court, Google, they took to court.
Meta, Facebook, they took to court.
Don't let them cut a deal and wriggle out of it at the last minute.
josh hawley
I mean, don't ever forget what they did to us in the 2020 election.
unidentified
For that matter, the 2024 election, 2022, but in 2016.
But never forget, in 2020 in particular, their censorship was brazen.
And they got by with it because they had so much power.
We cannot trust these people ever.
The answer is to break them up.
It is to get competition in there and it is to protect individual rights, First Amendment rights, your basic right to work, protect your own private property, which is your data, your information in this age.
So we've got to get DOJ on that antitrust agenda going strong.
Steve, we've also got to pass protections here at the federal level.
josh hawley
People need to be able to say, I'm going to sue these companies.
unidentified
You need to have a right to protect all your own information.
Name, image, likeness.
josh hawley
It's good enough for college athletes.
It ought to be good enough for every working person in America.
unidentified
These companies shouldn't be able to take your stuff or talk to your kids without your permission.
josh hawley
We need to give people their rights.
unidentified
And I say again, the Constitution of the United States is still in effect.
josh hawley
The AI oligarchs haven't waived it away.
unidentified
We need to make sure that Constitution is good for and accessible to and a real thing for every working person.
When you bring this up at the Senate lunch, do you get some blank stares or some nervous coughs?
Or do you feel like you've got some colleagues who are sitting there going, right on, Josh?
I love where you're going with this.
Is it stony silence or I'm with you, brother?
It's closer to the silence.
In fact, sometimes it's not silence.
Sometimes it's Josh, you're totally wrong.
And, you know, these are dangerous ideas, Josh.
All this talk about working people, you know, that's dangerous, Josh.
josh hawley
And I just say, guys, it is we the people.
That's how the Constitution begins.
unidentified
Can I just remind you, we the people, not we, the oligarchs, not we, the corporations, not we, the establishment.
It says we the people.
josh hawley
Number one, number two, who elected us?
unidentified
Who elected Donald Trump?
Working people.
We're going to be the party of working people or we'll be nothing, Steve.
You know that.
I know that.
People in Washington need to get it through their heads.
But I would just say this.
I say to my colleagues all the time, just ask yourself, do you want a chat bot, some AI chat bot, telling your kid how to commit suicide?
Do you want that?
Do you want some AI chat bot telling your kid that Charlie Kirk was a right-wing terrorist?
Do you want that?
Because that's what's happening right now.
And if you think you can trust these people and it'll just, everything will work out great if you just give the companies whatever they want, give the oligarchs whatever they want, you know, tell individuals good luck to you, tell working people, good luck to you.
josh hawley
No, it's not going to come out good.
unidentified
It's going to come out the way it always does if you let these people run wild.
josh hawley
We need to protect working people in this country.
unidentified
Senator, you're always ahead of the curve.
I want to make sure people get your writings.
You wrote two books.
One, the book was so controversial about big tech, I think the publishing company dumped it.
They tried to ban it.
steve bannon
It was outstanding.
unidentified
Then he wrote a book on masculinity that really got to the basics, I think, of a lot of what Charlie Kirk tried to take around to the universities and one of the reasons Charlie got such great traction and was so highly revered, particularly by young men.
Where do people go to get your writings and where do they keep up with you on social media?
You can go to joshhawley.com.
You can follow me on social media at HollyMo across all the social media platforms.
You can find my books anywhere, any bookshop.
I hate to even say the word Amazon given what we're talking about here, Steve.
You can find it there and anywhere else books are sold.
Thank you, Senator, for taking time away.
I know it's crazy up there today, so thank you for joining us.
josh hawley
Hey, thank you.
unidentified
Jonathan, I think, has got the strategy.
He's going to brace him up against the wall and going to vote every couple hours, I think, because I think he sees some daylight.
He sees some weakness.
You got Angus King, who's always got his finger to the wind.
And you've got Nevada.
It's already bipartisan.
Sheila, I've run out of time, but I'm going to get you back up here.
Tell people where they can go.
You got reports up.
You're analyzing this.
steve bannon
I want to get you back up this afternoon because the situation in Utah has to be dealt with.
unidentified
And this dignity index and his wife is out with the empathy crisis.
We got to talk about this because they're trying to put in Chinese Communist Party social credit score into the U.S. Where do people go in the interim map?
Social media and your website.
Sure.
I just want to remind everybody that Utah is the highest state with mental illness, and the governor spends, has increased the budget over 12,000%, 1,200%, rather.
So my organization is ablechild.org, and people can find me on the web.
We are funded by parents.
We do not get funding by state or federal government.
That gives us the ability, unlike what Governor Cox likes, is to stand up to corruption.
We believe that he is at the center of this.
And so we believe that nobody's above the law.
And there's probably more evidence against him than this kid.
steve bannon
Wow.
unidentified
We'll get you back up at five.
Explosive.
Who had ever thought Utah the biggest mental health crisis?
steve bannon
Thank you, ma'am.
Grayson Moe, can you push that out?
unidentified
Back in a moment.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
The precinct strategy was absolutely central to the victory in 2022, the midterm, President Trump's win in 2024.
You had the young people with Charlie Kirk.
You had the precinct strategy folks.
And now in 26.
Johnson said it last night.
steve bannon
The speaker finally coughed it up and said, hey, if they win the midterm elections, the first thing they're going to do is impeach President Trump.
unidentified
Where you heard that before?
We got Dan Schultz and Steve Sterner with us.
steve bannon
You had a big event yesterday, Dan.
unidentified
And I realize as people get into the precinct strategy and start to go, and then when they move up the chain to the state level, there's a lot of frustration because the establishment always tries to beat back.
steve bannon
Can you give us a status?
unidentified
Tell us what happened yesterday and where do people go to get all this content?
Well, thanks, Steve.
It went very well.
Thanks to Steve Stern and Raj for putting it all together.
We didn't have any technical glitches.
I started off by doing a short PowerPoint, 14 slides.
dan schultz
My first slide, I basically asked, I said I had asked somebody that if there was a better political strategy than the precinct committee man strategy to save the Republic for we the people to carry out, what would be that strategy?
unidentified
And if there isn't a better strategy, then please state that.
And the answer was: no better political strategy exists for we the people to save the republic than the precinct committee man strategy and the person that i asked was grok on x.com so grok agrees that if we want to save the republic we've got to carry out the precinct Committee strategy like big time, but unfortunately, still over, and we learned that yesterday from all the people from the 50 states.
On average, over half of these slots still are vacant.
So we've got to double down and triple down because the average turnout in a primary is 20%, which means 96% of our lovely rhinos, the incumbent rhinos, are going to win their primary based on history.
And I've done that research and I've used Grok to confirm it as well.
So what do you got to do?
You got to go to precinctstrategy.com, learn how to get involved in your party.
And you asked me to mention the fact that twice a week now, Tuesdays, 2 p.m. Eastern, Friday nights, 9 p.m. Eastern.
So this Friday, 9 p.m. Eastern, Jonathan Broadbent from Ohio, my cohort in Ohio, he's been on War Room as a success story.
We co-host a X space.
And the way to find it is just get on at those times: 2 p.m. Eastern on Tuesdays, 9 p.m. Eastern on Friday nights.
We have a precinct strategy community.
You can go in there and find the link or just search precinct strategy and sort by latest, and you'll find you'll find it.
You can follow me at those are those.
Go ahead, give your social media.
I was just going to say, I'm the number two on X is that p.m., 2 p.m. and 9 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, Eastern Time?
Yes, Eastern.
Yep.
9 p.m. Eastern.
On Friday nights, 2 p.m. Eastern.
On Tuesdays, we try to do one during the day and one at night, and it works out pretty well.
And we have a good crew that comes on, and we only talk about the precinct committee man strategy and how to fill those 200,000 vacancies.
We'll also do that.
We'll stream that.
What time is your weekday podcast?
There's a 6 p.m. Eastern.
What time?
6 p.m. Eastern.
6 p.m. Eastern.
6 p.m. Eastern Daily, 2 p.m. and 9 p.m. on Tuesday and Friday.
Steve Stern, brother, you did a great job the other day.
Coordinate where they go to get all your content, particularly this.
We're trying to push this out, the whole thing.
We had a huge audience yesterday, but we want to make sure everybody gets a chance to see this, sir.
So we had 77,000 on yours alone.
We had 5 million all over with all the podcasters.
If you want to see this now, go to Stern American Rumble.
Very easy.
We had many, many people on there.
One person from every state.
It lasted four hours.
It was sensational.
Dan was great on it.
And we have another one coming up on Election Integrity, which will be October the 8th, which is going to be important.
We'll hopefully get you on to speak.
We have some great speakers on there.
We're going to have this for Virginia.
General Flynn's going to come on.
Ken Nunenkamp, Executive Director of Virginia.
Brian Swenson from the RNC.
Joe DeBox, who you, I think, had on the America First Warehouse.
Andy Mangion, Senior Vice President AMAC, Gary Myers, the Myers Report, Dr. Robert Epstein, John Vieira from VotaFry Now, Cleta Mitchell, EIN, Greg Stenstrom, and many, many other people will be on.
You want to get on?
Just go to Stern Street.
Where do people?
Yeah, go to Stern.
Stern1050.
Right.
Dan, hold on to your.
Yep.
The RNC is asking for homeworkers for Virginia.
Perfect.
Dan Schultz, we'll make sure we stream that.
Steve Stern will make sure we stream that.
Thank you guys.
Breaking New Timpool.
We're going to toss to the Charlie Kirk show at noon as we've done every day for every workday for the last five, four years, is it?
Tim Poole is going to be co-hosting today.
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We're back here live at 5 p.m.
Russell, it's just been announced, going to be at the Oval Office with the President of the United States at 1 p.m. today.
If that's open to the public, we'll definitely show that.
Also, Brian Glenn is going to be making a special trip this afternoon.
He'll be with us at 5.
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