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Oct. 1, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4819: Downfall Of Portland; Breaking Big Tech And Chat Bots Encouraging Suicide
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josh hawley
08:29
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steve bannon
20:43
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ben bergquam
01:28
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chris hoar
03:07
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dan schultz
02:27
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jillian barberie
02:27
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mike lindell
01:25
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sheila matthews
02:50
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steve stern
01:01
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jake tapper
00:10
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Warum.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
steve bannon
Okay, it's Wednesday, one October year of our Lord 2025.
We're absolutely packed in this hour, but we're gonna carve it as much time as we need.
We're gonna go back to Portland and to Ben Burkwam.
First of all, Ben, your your interview with the ICE official was incredible.
She just walks through very plainly what they're trying to do to end the invasion of this country and to begin the process of mass deportations.
Okay, they're just doing their jobs as federal officials under the auspices of uh the chief executive officer of the U.S. government.
That would be a guy named Donald J. Trump.
Um and uh and now your interview with Rick is incredible.
I want to start at the top.
We're pressed for time, but I want to go back to citizens of this country, regardless of their politics, or other liberals and progressives, can't live besieged by terrorists and the people that support them.
Because remember, Ben, the reason the president, one of the reasons President Trump had the victory for four years, actually for five, we did it even during President Trump's presidency, but then ramped it up when the invasion started on the southern border, and you were so eloquent in what you said yesterday.
This is not chaos, not disorganization.
It's highly organized by Antifa and the NGOs, just like the invasion was highly, highly choreographed and coordinated.
It was not as Todd Benzman, who's now in the government working over with uh Homan, used to tell us every day.
Uh, this is highly organized.
This is how they're trying to get in as many people as possible, illegal aliens into the country.
So talk to you take the interview and just go ahead.
I know Rick doesn't have comms with us.
You go ahead and let it rip, sir.
ben bergquam
Yeah, no, so that's it.
Just to give you an idea, so I just want to give you again, we're gonna start at the beginning.
We got the ICE facility behind us.
The entire building has had to be boarded up to protect because they've got projectiles being thrown at, it's been firebombed, maltov cocktails, all of that.
And I ironically, or uh you want to be really pissed, the city is actually now trying to attack the building for putting that up.
They're saying it's a code violation.
While you have that going on, you have all these leftists out here that are aiding and abetting, working with Antifa and all these groups to undermine our country.
And right next door to where all this is happening, you've got people having to live here in these buildings.
Rick is one of those people.
Rick, walk us through what the last nine months has been like living here with this insanity.
unidentified
Uh I mean basically every single day I come out here, I walk my dog four times a day, I get called Nazi.
Um, they scream at me, they give me a hard time.
It's you know, it's they're not they say they're peaceful, but they're not peaceful.
They're very aggressive, especially at night.
I mean, the day crew is not so bad, but you know, at nighttime, I can't even come out here.
Um my neighbors, you know, most of the females that are in here that are terrified to come even come out.
So they you know they have to text me so that I can come out and help them.
It's it's just ridiculous.
Um they're they're not accomplishing anything.
They've been here for 115 days and they're yelling at an empty building.
It's just it's it they've literally accomplished zero.
ben bergquam
Are you are you know Portland tends to be a pretty liberal city?
Are you starting to see that shift where even liberals are saying enough?
We're tired of it, people that live in here.
unidentified
Um I think the ones that are more um more centrist are moving away from that.
Um, you know, the the radical left, they're the radical left.
I mean, they're you know, there's they're not gonna change.
That's what that's what these people are.
But uh the people I think that are more in the center.
I think I I think I see them shifting a little bit, but uh how to and how tough is it?
ben bergquam
You were talking about your wife uh your your girlfriend and some of the elderly uh ladies that live here.
What is that like?
I mean the terrorism is is a word that's thrown around.
What is it like actually living here?
When you have a mayor that says there's no problem, it's all under control, the governor says there's no problem.
unidentified
Well, they're not doing anything.
I mean, they they they care more about the terrorists than they did about the people here.
Police are the police don't do nothing.
The you know the city council, they're complicit.
You know, it's just you know, I think they are Antifa.
You know, it's just they they allow this, they enable this.
So it's it's yeah, it's just it's it's just absolutely out of out of control.
It's out of control.
steve bannon
Uh Ben, that's it.
Just ask Rick.
No, ask Rick.
Is he is he uh thoughtful?
Because we're playing both your footage and Andy knows footage that is unbelievable from last night.
Is Rick or at least certain people there, the women that can't go out at night?
Are people appreciative of the fact that President Trump has now said, we're not gonna play this game anymore?
I'm sending people in and we're gonna clean this mess up.
ben bergquam
Yeah, so uh by the way, uh Rick is a big war room posse fan.
Uh, but that that's the question.
Are the the folks like you that live here that have to go through this every day?
Are you appreciative of President Trump saying he's gonna come in and clean it up?
unidentified
Absolutely.
You can't get it, they can't send those people in here, the the National Guard in here fast enough.
Come in here and wipe these people out.
I'm done with it.
I'm done with it.
steve bannon
Yeah.
unidentified
Can't happen fast enough.
steve bannon
Ben, thank Rick and tell him to be safe.
Be safe.
unidentified
Thank you, brother.
steve bannon
God bless you.
unidentified
Thank you.
ben bergquam
Thank you, sir.
Anything you want to say to Steve?
unidentified
No.
Uh actually, yeah, Steve, I love you, man.
You're the best.
steve bannon
Uh, we love you too.
Speaking of one of the You were in Fort Apache.
Fort Apache.
Ben, hang on for a second.
I'm gonna I'm gonna come back to you in a minute, okay?
Just stay right there.
We're gonna get back to Ben Burkwam.
If you saw that footage, Andy knows got it up, and uh Ben Burkwam, of course, he was with uh the ice guys last night.
Uh when Rick, the citizen says, hey, the building's empty, is it because they surround it every night and heretofore federal officials, etc.
have not wanted to force the the subject.
I think that's going to change.
I really think that's gonna change.
I think President Trump is coming down to the conclusion that hey, um it ain't gonna it ain't gonna it's not gonna change until we make a change, and that's why you saw federal officials last night.
Look at those arrests in some of that footage.
Um at least seven people arrested last night, and you've got to clean the whole thing up.
And I would go with the NGOs and rolled them up too.
Just like they were at the border.
Look, look, nobody wanted to cover this.
And I really appreciate uh Robin Parker Sig in Real America's voice, giving us the platform and actually helping assist us to get the investigative reporters down there.
But Oscar Blue Ramirez, uh Ben uh Ben Burkwam and others, dozens and dozens of others reported this for years and years and years and showed you the entire thing and all the lies of the Biden regime.
This is one of the reasons people said we've had enough of this.
We see in our communities now.
We know Biden's lying to us.
And look at that.
President Trump shut down the border in the first what, 30 days or 60 days of of this administration of the of this of his second term.
This is what President Trump called the they called him together the R S day, and that wasn't just um uh the Secretary of War telling them, hey, you're not in shape, you gotta get in better shape.
You they kind of do that every Friday in the military anyway.
Part of it was that, and we're gonna fight with frosting precision, but the buried lead was the commander-in-chief saying, hey, look, we're gonna win all over the world, we're gonna win these wars now.
You saw what I did with the B-2s and the total obliteration of the uh of the Iranian nuclear weapons program, right?
Total obliteration.
Um that's the way we're gonna roll.
However, we have an issue before us we have to address, and that is our country has been invaded.
Uh there's certain elements that are out of control, and the violence is escalating, and that's not gonna happen on my watch, full stop.
That was the purpose of Donald Trump's address to eight hundred flag officers yesterday for the first time in American history face to face.
Right?
And I think they took it on board.
And you see what's happening here in Portland, and you see what's happening in places like Chicago with the crime being out of control and the gangs being out of control.
And soon it's going to happen in New York City.
Because you're about to have the red green alliance, neo-Marxist with jihadists, uh control New York City.
It's gonna happen.
Chris Hoare, now more than ever.
Uh, in fact, I just went through a personal situation where somebody was remote and had the internet and tele and the in and the wireless communications down for four days.
And man, did they need a uh did they need a satellite phone?
I was gonna talk to you later, but talk to people about why now more than ever, with everything going on, you need to be prepared.
You need to think ahead and get ahead of the program here, sir.
chris hoar
Well, Steve, yeah, you're absolutely right.
Things are really escalating.
Uh, just uh when we had the last UN meeting, uh, what we saw was the Secret Service managed to take down a network of over 300 SIM servers and 100,000 SIM cards that was set up within 35 miles of the UN to basically flood the cell towers with messages.
And that network of servers had the ability to send up to 30 million messages a minute.
And what that does is that overwhelms the cell towers and therefore effectively takes them offline.
And this was focused around the UN, Steve, but this can happen across the country.
In the last week, we've seen huge attacks on uh on software infrastructures for ticketing systems for airlines, both here in the US and around the world, that causes chaos for flights.
And this is a pattern that we've been seeing for the last several years of bad state actors basically testing out how they can influence and disrupt our our communications networks and our infrastructure in general.
And so we've we have to be prepared for this.
And the only way to do that is to have a communication system uh that does not rely on these cell towers and the power grid, and that's of course SAP phone, Steve.
So sat123.com, we still have the free SAP phone with activation.
And uh right now we're doing the uh free satellite phone with the free um bulletproof backpack.
Uh obviously uh a lot of places in this country are getting more and more dangerous.
Uh, but uh a free SAP phone and a free bulletproof backpack, you're paying just 85, sorry, 95 bucks a month, uh you're getting 150 minutes.
But this sapph phone will enable you to stay in touch if the cell towels get taken down, if the power grid gets taken down, you know, you are not gonna be without communication, just like your friend discovered that you don't want to be without communication without.
steve bannon
I was I was in a situation five five days, no comms.
No, I had to go down, had to drive down to a local village and and and get comms.
I want you to go back to connect dots.
This whole thing with the airports being shut down and this whole day, you know, cybersecurity attacks, some in Europe, some here in the United States.
Is that directly tied?
Do you think that's directly tied to what happened in the UN?
And just take a second, because we haven't had a chance to cover it.
This massive thing the Secret Service and other federal agencies found uh about in New York.
What was that specifically?
chris hoar
Well, it was this network of servers was designed to cause what they call a denial of distributed denial of service attack.
And we used to websites being attacked like this, but uh this kind of a new development of this equipment being used to disrupt cell towers, and that very clearly I think is tied to what's going on with other cyber uh cyber attacks around the world.
Because the end result is that our infrastructure is taken offline, and that is designed to cause chaos in the U.S. And look, if I was looking to attack a country, uh the first thing that I would do, and uh others are doing is figuring out how they can cause chaos so that everyone's looking the other way and and nobody can communicate.
And you know, if you're out of communications for five days, a lot can happen in that time.
You don't want to be in that situation.
Either we as a country or you as an individual with your family, you do not want to be uh left without any kind of communications.
But Steve, I certainly believe that all of these attacks are a part of a bigger plan to disrupt you know the infrastructure here in the U.S. and cause chaos on the streets.
steve bannon
Folks, it's all part of a it's all a piece of a hole.
You got to get ahead of this.
You need to get prepared now.
Remember, we're not uh I'm not running around with my hair on fire.
Hey, you gotta do it.
No, but you get the logical people, the My Patriot Supply guys and Chris Hoare come on here.
These are professionals that do this for a living.
This is why four years ago we started with Birch Gold.
I said, no, we're not gonna sell gold on Worham.
Everybody else does is all the podcasters.
However, if you're ready to partner up and walk people through why gold has been a hedge, and particularly in today's times, that was four years ago.
It was 1100 bucks an ounce.
3900 today.
I'm not this has nothing to do with financial forecasting.
It just we're in a fourth turning.
Okay.
And things are gonna get crazier.
They're going to get crazier.
They're going to get crazier.
Chris Hore, one more time.
Where do they go to the satellite phone store?
Sir.
chris hoar
They can go to SAT123.com.
S A P123.com.
O'Cool 941 841084.
Steve, that's 941 841 084.
You get a free SAP phone, a free bulletproof backpack, just 95 bucks a month with activation.
steve bannon
Amazing.
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
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steve bannon
It's going to get crazier.
Take your number two parcel out and write that down.
Short break.
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steve bannon
Okay.
Um, we got a lot of moving pieces, and uh Brian Glenn's gonna have a huge story for us, probably this afternoon.
I don't know if we can get anyone for a hit this morning.
Senator Hawley, if he's out of these meetings, is gonna join us also.
Want to go to Jillian Barbecue.
So, Jillian, by the way, good news, folks.
Gold 3900, that's all good.
Pattern recognition, we got all kind of information there to make you a genius.
We do.
We will.
You will become.
You'll become smarter than the guys on Wall Street.
I will tell you that by reading this.
Guaranteed, because they all mocked us a couple of years ago.
Um budget deficit.
I gotta get that number.
I think it's two trillion dollars this fiscal year, just ended last night at midnight.
What does that mean?
It ties to let me give you some bad news.
Yesterday, I think it was reported, and I keep telling you the OECD, that's an official organization with the organization of economic uh development in Europe, the OECD, huge uh organization.
We're a big part of the United States.
When you take the ambassadorship to that, you get like a 15-room mansion in Paris.
So it's a good gig.
They put out a report, Financial Times of London broke it down.
Uh, we are now globally $338 trillion of global debt.
And I mean, that's everything.
That's national debt, regional debt, municipal debt.
I don't care if you're a city in India or local waterworks or something in um Topeka, Kansas, right?
All federal debt, personal debt, junk bonds, add it all up.
Something called debt, $338 trillion.
The point the OECD made in the Financial Times is that the world is kind of over-leveraged.
Okay.
And I keep saying we're gonna have the world's biggest margin call, and when that happens, Katie bar the door.
You're gonna be glad you're in gold, okay?
Because these fiat currencies are all sudden they're gonna look like you're gonna understand what fiat means.
So one of the biggest parts of that, the problems for people under 35 years old.
First off, the student debt is that what they did to these kids is absolutely horrendous.
That's another topic.
But credit card debt, your debt.
Uh now at all-time highs, and also now all-time non-performing.
So, what do you do about it?
This is just like the IRS situation.
Nothing draw, nothing uh has your angst more than three things losing your job, right?
In this environment.
Number two, I got a problem with the IRS.
And oh, by the way, I got a problem with these credit cards.
And I I'm behind, I can't pay.
I'm getting these letters.
Once again, what you cannot do is just put the letter in the drawer.
That does not solve the problem.
It can it metastasizes.
Gini and Barbary's here just done such a great job with the done for debt crowd.
These guys can take care of the problem immediately.
And people need, if you want to get that angst and anxiety away, and you know what it is like, Jillian, you must deal with this today.
Talk to us about it.
jillian barberie
Yeah, you forgot the fourth one, cancer.
I hope I had that at my door as well.
It was knock knock and it was the grim reaper who was there, death and taxes.
Uh done with debt is the way to go.
And I'm just gonna explain.
Last night I was going through a feed and on uh TikTok on the younger side of things, they have all of these get five thousand dollars now, fix your problem.
And of course, when you look into it, you owe you'll end up owing ten thousand dollars on that five thousand dollars.
So, you know, if you are young, if you're get going into retirement and you found yourself just living life and you're in debt, this is the way to go.
It's called done with debt.
What is it?
Well, we are a team of financial experts.
I'm just the mouthpiece, they're the experts uh that get together and look at your situation, and they are master negotiators, so they can take any of your debt and work magic with it.
Now, I'm not saying it happens overnight.
You have to work with them.
Do not stuff an envelope in a drawer before before you do anything else.
If you're watching Steve Bannon's show right now, don't pay another bill until you get your free consultation with done with debt.
Because they're going to tell you, and you can go online and read all of the testimonials.
There are many people that they've helped over the years.
And what they'll do is get you back on track to financial freedom.
They'll work with all the people that are calling you late at night that are hassling you, that are mailing you.
They work with the credit card companies, the banking institutions.
They can sometimes get your debt wiped right out, some of it, at least, and that's a start.
Uh, and they can certainly uh get you on a program of paying back that you can live with, that you can actually still feed your family and go to work and get gas for your car and and maybe have a night out with the family.
You know, they're not uh, you know, they're not evil, they want you to have a life, but they also want you to get back on track because you know it's so easy in this uh environment to get off track.
steve bannon
And so if you don't hang on, hang on.
They're not evil, they're not evil, but they want their money, okay?
They want their money.
Uh, these were unsecured loans, and they're gonna show you about how how your name and reputation secure.
This is you also can't just people say, well, I'll just go into bankruptcy.
If you go into bankruptcy, you're never gonna be able to get an apartment, you're not gonna be able to get a car loan.
That thing will trail with you.
My point is there are other alternatives, but until you take action and it needs to come from you and the audience, just don't sit there and put, don't put the letter in the drawer.
It's just metastasizing.
One more time, Jillian, where they go, who they talk to today, right now, to make sure they can start sorting this problem out.
jillian barberie
Go to donewithdebt.com, you get a free consultation.
The last thing they want to do is push you into bankruptcy or a big, big conglomerated loan.
They don't want that.
So, this is the way to get yourself back on track.
Look at the testimonies, and you'll see you're with the right people.
They are, when I say master negotiators, these are the best of the best, Steve.
steve bannon
Thank you, ma'am.
Appreciate you.
We're gonna be spending a lot of time on this because of the simple fact that um this this credit card debt situation because they fed credit cards to everybody, the credit card companies.
I'm not saying they're the villains here, but they're the villains here.
Um, and now people have got to pay for it.
Here's the thing they will go in, they will cap uh the interest rates.
They may get a haircut to your total face amount as they negotiate for you because the by the time the credit card companies come out after you, they've already written it off.
So anything they get back is is uh is juice.
That's why you need an expert.
You can't do this yourself.
You're never gonna be able to negotiate yourself, and don't take the easy path out where people say, Oh, well, just we'll just go into bankruptcy.
That thing will follow you for a long time.
Okay, uh, do I have uh Sheila?
Up let's go and play cold open for Sheila Matthews, my wingman on one of my favorite topics.
Let's go ahead and let it rip.
unidentified
In the days after the murder, as you're trying to bring the country together.
Steve Bannon, the philosopher of the MAGA right, called you a national embarrassment.
Yeah.
I love free speech.
I would give my life defending his right to say that about me.
That's okay.
We can have that debate.
There are some people that think I am a national embarrassment.
And that's okay too.
Who do you blame for the division?
I do believe that social media is a cancer, and it is taking all of our worst impulses and putting them on steroids.
Uh it is driving us to division.
It is driving us to hate these algorithms that have captured our very souls.
steve bannon
Okay, I went the wrong way.
Okay.
Uh Sheila's with us.
By the way, Josh Hawley, I think we're gonna get Senator Hawley at the bottom of the hour, so we're gonna hold Sheila over.
Uh Sheila Matthews, and he last night he was on the Charlie Kirk.
The the uh turning point was back at uh Utah uh Valley.
Uh Tyler Boyer was handling and Cox showed up.
And look, I don't think I think Tyler and those guys did a great job.
Andy Biggs was there.
Uh, although I don't think they made Cox uh should apologize and should grovel for saying Charlie said some inflammatory things.
I don't remember that.
Uh not inflammatory in the war rooms perspective.
So he has to explain himself.
But this guy is quite insidious.
He and Jared Polis have gone around and he got this disagree together or kind of the group because he's lying to 60 minutes.
He's got a Kumbaya thing he's working on, which is essentially the Chinese social credit, the CCP social credit score.
Is it not, ma'am?
sheila matthews
Uh yes.
Uh let's not forget the governor of Utah is in um the midst of an investigation and now trial of a political assassination of Charlie Kirk.
And he is now on the media spreading this dignity index, which is a pilot program of his, which basically is suppression of free speech.
I have two points of the uh the policy that he's pushing.
Um, you know, we are not allowed to mock and attack others, uh, their beliefs, their commitment, their competence, which we should because this assassination happened in the state of Utah.
He has no competence.
So, according to his dignity index, we're not allowed to talk about his competence or his performance under level four.
Under level seven, he wants to address and admit to ex um mistakes after their investigation fails and this trial fails, and he wants to come together and be less lessons learned, and that is something they did in the aftermath of Sandy Hook.
This is psychiatry, this is behavioral health, and this is suppression of uh freedom of speech.
So uh the chairman obviously is um pushing um an agenda here, which he shouldn't be because he is in charge of what happened in Utah, okay?
He's in charge of the investigation.
His sheriff was in charge of collecting the information on the ground.
His sheriff was the biggest failure on one of the sexual abuse cases in the court system, okay?
He was a character on AE, where he allowed people into the prisons to uh mingle with prisoners.
I mean, this is this is corruption.
And we should be able to point that out.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Hang on one second.
I'm gonna hold you over.
She's right.
Right now, we've been trying to force it.
He hasn't been charged with any federal crime.
So as much as the FBI is helping, they're not running the deal because there's not been any federal federal charges filed as of yet.
Short commercial break.
unidentified
Short commercial break.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
steve bannon
Okay, um, welcome back.
Senator Josh Hawley joins us.
So, Senator Hawley, uh, Russ Vogue's gonna come up today and and I think brief people on what the plan is for deconstruction of the administrative state in the Schumer shutdown.
Leader Thune, I think the strategy's pretty good.
Make them, particularly now, it's a bipartisan vote since Nevada and uh Maine kind of threw in with the Republicans.
Are you guys going to vote every couple hours on this until you break the Democrats?
josh hawley
Well, it sounds like that's the plan, Steve.
I just don't understand what the Democrats think they're accomplishing here.
I mean, you're going to shut down the government and have a fit over what?
I mean, what what is it exactly?
They can't articulate it.
Their demands shift every two days.
We all know what the real two hours I should say.
We all know what the real thing is here.
Say hate Trump.
This is all about Trump.
And it's it's a hissy fit because they just want to hurt Trump.
And you know, I'm sorry, but I just think the American people are going to look at this and say, hold on, I can't now go to the VA.
Uh if you're a farmer, you you can't go to the USDA and get the programs that you've applied for that you're paying for with your tax money, Medicaid reimbursements, that's all going to stop because the Democrats just don't like the guy who won the election, by the way.
I mean, come on.
It's a joke.
steve bannon
But there's the thing, and you've you've pointed this out in your efforts to reverse all this defund the police madness.
New York's the vote in New York City with the working people's party and the DSA, the combination of uh neo-Marxism and jihadist.
It's the same thing we just saw out with trying to stop the law enforcement officers from implementing the mass deportation programs around ICE.
The violence continues to escalate.
The radical left is even more radical than ever.
And they are winning in certain polling in certain Democrat strongholds away from what used to be moderate Democrats, which don't even exist anymore.
So how can he deal with a party that is becoming radicalized and quite frankly pushing the escalation in political violence, sir?
josh hawley
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, this is this is the question of the day, Stephen.
I just look at at the Democrats, the elected Democrats, and I think they've got a choice to make.
You know, I mean, are they actually going to represent the middle of the road, normal constituents, the working class people?
Democrats are always saying, Oh, we're the party of the working class.
Really?
I mean, is that right?
You're voting to raise their taxes, you're voting to make them less safe, you're voting to offshore their jobs, now you're voting to shut down their health care.
I mean, really?
You're voting to trans their kids?
I mean, come on.
They've got a choice here to make Steve.
And I think that's what this is really about.
This is the Democrat Party melting down before our eyes.
That's why they're lashing out at Trump like this.
Now they're shutting down the government because of their own internal divisions.
And, uh, I'm afraid it's going to get worse before it gets better, to be honest with you.
steve bannon
Missouri is maybe the most MAGA of the states, particularly the working class part of it.
You're considered one of the leaders of the populist wing of the party.
Where do the folks in Missouri stand on this government shutdown?
What are they what are they telling you?
josh hawley
Oh, they they think it's stupid.
They hate it.
I mean, they think it's just classic Washington, D.C. establishment types.
This is how they play the game, Steve, which is why, you know, we we ought to ban this, and we ought to not do shutdowns or allow them.
We don't in Missouri.
Our constitution doesn't permit them.
I mean, this is just ridiculous.
And they look at the Democrats, I think Missourians get it.
They get what's going on here.
They're like, why are the why are the Democrats doing this?
I mean, why why are they closing everything?
By the way, every Missourian is still getting taxed to pay for this government that now is not working.
You know, this is a basic we the people moment.
Does the government work for us?
Or are we just here to fund this government no matter what it does?
You know, is the government that's gonna be shut down for for months on end, but we're gonna keep paying our taxes because we really serve the government?
Is that the message?
That seems to be the Democrats' message.
I don't think that's what the people of my state believe.
And they want people to up here in DC to get to work, you know, get off their butts, get to work, start solving some problems here, start getting jobs back, get wages up, get inflation down, get the cost of health care down, put power back in the hands of working people.
That's what we need to be doing.
Democrats are going in the opposite direction.
steve bannon
Russ vote, I think is gonna go up to the hill today and brief people on one of the alternatives they got of since uh the government's been shut down by the Democrats.
Uh he's got a couple of different alternatives of how you get into uh either mass layoffs, rifts, uh he's got a whole menu.
Uh what are your thoughts on that?
josh hawley
Well, I haven't I haven't seen what he's proposed yet, but I just say this to the Democrats.
I mean, listen, they're all crying about the fact, oh, Donald Trump now has has more power than ever.
I mean, you guys shut down the government.
I mean, you can't have it both ways.
You can't whine and fuss and say, oh, the president is acting like a dictator.
When you shut down the government and now, frankly, put onto the president the decision of designating who's essential, who's non-essential, who's gonna work.
I mean, I if to be honest with you, Steve, what I would urge the president to consider doing is just paying people anyway.
I mean, the mill start with the military.
Our military service men and women, they need to get paid.
They're doing their job.
It's ridiculous.
Just because the Democrats don't like Trump, they're not gonna get paid.
I think the president ought to say, listen, I'm paying the military, and if you want to stop me, take me to court.
I think the president should say for essential services that the American people have paid for and rely on, he's just gonna keep them open.
And if the Democrats want to stop that, take him to court.
Get on the side of the people, which is I think where the president is.
But I just say again, the Democrats on this are out to lunch, they're off the wall, they're off, they're totally in far left field, and I think it's gonna backfire.
steve bannon
Senator, you've been one of the voices of reason about the situation with artificial intelligence, and I think people in the Senate, even across the aisle, who normally you can't reach are starting to understand that we have a big problem here if this thing's totally unregulated and just allowed to um to have the oligarchs in Silicon Valley run the deal.
Can you give us up the speed get us up to speed on your latest work in this area?
josh hawley
Yeah, well, I mean, here's here's a sample of this, what's going on right now, Steve.
Just this morning there's news reports now that AI chatbots are out there saying that Charlie Kirk was not actually assassinated, that this was a quote, right wing terrorist incident, right wing, terrorist incident, as if Charlie was somehow involved in it, as if you know he he deserved to die.
I mean, of course, it's total propaganda, but this is the kind of thing it's gonna be censorship on steroids.
If we allow these AI companies to control all of the news, all of the data, all of the information.
That's what they're doing right now.
Those chatbots are also telling our kids how to kill themselves and their kids are doing it.
And that's not hyperbole.
I've I've heard from the parents, we've held hearings on this.
I mean, literally, that's what's happening while the oligarchs make billions of dollars.
What we need to do is put power back into the hands of normal everyday working Americans.
We need to allow Americans who are harmed by these AI companies whose kids kill themselves or harm themselves because of these chatbots to be able to sue these companies.
It's a basic American right, the right to defend your own individual rights.
We need to make sure that that remains good and true in this AI age.
The Constitution is still in effect.
You know, AI doesn't wipe out the U.S. Constitution.
The Constitution protects the rights of the individual, and we need to double down on that and protect that from these companies who want to come after our kids, want to come after our rights, want to come after our jobs.
And I got no sympathy for the oligarchs.
I just have to tell you, you know, I mean, they're they're gonna do fine.
I'm not worried about them.
I'm worried about the worker, you know, out in Missouri who might lose his job.
I'm worried about the family who's got a kid who's who asks a chatbot a question about science and then is told how to how to put himself in a noose.
I mean, this has got to stop.
We got to hold these people accountable.
steve bannon
You saw, and this gets back to the antitrust where the Trump administration started off, he's got Gale over at uh at uh the antitrust division, you got FTC, FCC, people were, you know, we got Google in court, you got uh you got Facebook in court, but all of a sudden guys are trying to cut deals, and you know the power, and I keep telling people the power of the oligarchs, they got every all the best law firms, they get all the best crisis PR firms, they got the best lobbyists because they got so much money.
The power these oligarchs have is personified in DC and the fact that they've kind of got it, they got us surrounded.
So, how do you how do you start to fight back on this?
josh hawley
Well, the antitrust is a key part of it.
I'm glad you brought that up.
You know, the president has a tremendous record on antitrust.
He started it in his first term, and uh I we've got to keep the pedal to the metal on that.
And I just urge DOJ, don't let up now.
I mean, you know, you've taken these guys to court, Google they took to court, Meta Facebook they took to court.
Don't let them cut a deal and wriggle out of it at the last minute.
I mean, don't ever forget what they did to us in the 2020 election.
For that matter, the 2024 election, the 2022, but in 2016, but you never forget in 2020 in particular, their censorship was brazen.
And they got by with it because they had so much power.
We cannot trust these people ever.
The answer is to break them up.
It Is to get competition in there and it is to protect individual rights.
First amendment rights, your basic right to work, protect your own private property, which is your data, your information in this age.
So we got to get DOJ on that antitrust agenda going strong.
Steve, we've also got to pass protections here at the federal level.
People need to be able to say, I'm gonna sue these companies.
You need to have a right to protect all your own information.
Name image likeness.
It's good enough for college athletes.
It ought to be good enough for every working person in America.
These companies shouldn't be able to take your stuff or talk to your kids without your permission.
We need to give people their rights.
And I say again, the Constitution of the United States is still in effect.
The AI oligarchs haven't waved it away.
We need to make sure that Constitution is good for and accessible to and a real thing for every working person.
steve bannon
When you bring this up at the Senate lunch, do you do you get some blank stares or some nervous coughs?
Or do you feel like you've got some colleagues who are sitting there going right on, Josh?
I love where you're going with this.
What is it?
Is it stony silence or I'm with you, brother?
josh hawley
Uh it's closer to the silence.
In fact, sometimes it's not silence.
Sometimes it's uh Josh, you're totally wrong.
And and uh, you know, these are dangerous ideas, Josh.
All this talk about working people, you know, that's dangerous, Josh.
And I just say, guys, it's it it is what it is we the people.
That's how the Constitution begins.
Can I just remind you?
We the people, not we the oligarchs, not we the corporations, not we the establishment.
It says we the people.
Number one.
Number two, who elected us?
Who elected Donald Trump?
Working people.
We're gonna be the party of working people, or we'll be nothing, Steve.
You know that, I know that.
People in Washington need to get it through their heads.
But I would just say this: I say to my colleagues all the time, just ask yourself do you want a chat bot, some AI chatbot, telling your kid how to commit suicide?
Do you want that?
Do you want some AI chat bot telling your kid that Charlie Kirk was a right wing terrorist?
Do you do you want that?
Because that's what's happening right now.
And if you think you can trust these people, and it'll just everything will work out great if you just give the companies whatever they want, give the oligarchs whatever they want, you know, tell individuals good luck to you, tell working people good luck to you.
No, it's not gonna come out good.
It's gonna come out the way it always does if you let these people run wild.
We need to protect working people in this country.
steve bannon
Senator, you're always ahead of the curve.
I want to make sure people get your writings.
You wrote two books.
One, the book book was so controversial about big tech.
I think the publishing company dumped it, they tried to ban it.
It was outstanding.
Then you wrote a book on masculinity that really got to the basics, I think, of a lot of what Charlie Kirk tried to take around to the universities.
And one of the reasons Charlie got such great traction and was so highly uh revered, particularly by young men.
Where do people go to get your writings and where do they keep up with you on social media?
josh hawley
You can go to JoshHolly.com, you can follow me on social media at Holly Moe, across all the social media platforms.
You can find my books uh anywhere, any bookshop.
I hate to I hate to even say the word Amazon, given what we're talking about here, Steve, but you can find it there and uh anywhere else, books are sold.
steve bannon
Thank you, Senator, for taking time away.
I know it's crazy up there today, so thank you for joining us.
josh hawley
Hey, thank you.
steve bannon
John Thuna, I think he's got the strategy.
He's gonna brace them up against the wall and gonna vote every couple hours, I think.
Because I think he sees some daylight.
He sees some, he sees some weakness.
You got Angus King, who's always got his finger to the wind, and you've got uh, and you've got uh you've got Nevada.
They've already burned it's already bipartisan.
Uh Sheila, I I've run out of time, but I'm gonna get you back up here before tell people where they can go.
You got reports up, you're analyzing this.
I want to get you back up this afternoon because the situation in Utah has to be dealt with in this dignity index, and his wife is out with the empathy crisis.
We gotta we gotta talk about this because they're trying to put in Chinese Communist Party social credit score into the U.S. Where do people go in the interim mamp, social media and your website?
sheila matthews
Sure.
I just want to remind everybody that Utah is the um highest state with mental illness, and the governor spends um has increased the budget over 12,000 percent.
Twelve um 1200%, rather.
So my um organization is Abletchild.org, and people can find me on the uh the web.
We are funded by parents.
We do not get funding by state or federal government.
That gives us the ability, unlike uh what uh governor cox likes, Is to stand up to corruption.
We believe that he is at the center of this.
And um, so we believe that nobody's above the law, and there's probably more evidence against him than this.
steve bannon
Wow.
Well, get you back up at five.
Explosive.
Biggest who had ever thought Utah the biggest mental health crisis.
Thank you, ma'am.
Grace and Mo, can you push that out?
Back in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen Kand.
steve bannon
The precinct strategy was absolutely central to the victory in 2022, the midterm President Trump's uh win in 2024.
You had the you had the uh young people with Charlie Kirk, you had the precinct strategy folks, and now in 26.
Um Johnson said it last night.
The speaker finally coughed it up and said, hey, if they win the midterm elections, the first thing they're gonna do is impeach President Trump.
Where you heard that before?
We got Dan Schultz and uh and Steve Stirner with us.
You had a big event yesterday, Dan, and I realize as people get into the uh precinct strategy and start to go, and then when they move up the chain at to the state level, there's a lot of frustration because the establishment always tries to beat back.
Can you give us a status?
Tell us what happened yesterday, and where do people go to get all this uh all the content?
dan schultz
Well, thanks, Steve.
Um it went work very well.
Uh thanks to Steve Stern and Raj for putting it all together.
Uh it uh we didn't have any technical glitches.
I started off by um, you know, uh doing a short PowerPoint uh 14 slides.
My first slide, I basically asked I I said I had asked somebody that uh if there was a better political strategy than the precinct committee man strategy to save the republic for we the people to carry out.
Uh, what would be that strategy?
And if there isn't a better strategy, then please state that.
And the answer was no better political strategy exists for we the people to save the republic than the precinct committeemen strategy.
And the person that I asked was Grok on X.com.
So Grok agrees that if we want to save the Republic, we've got to carry out the precinct committeemen strategy like big time.
But unfortunately, still over and we learned that yesterday from all the people from the 50 states.
On average, over half of these slots still are vacant.
So we've got to double down and triple down because the average turnout in our primary is 20%, which means 96% of our um lovely uh rhinos, the incumbent rhinos are gonna win their primary based on history.
And I've done that research and I've you used Grok to confirm it as well.
So what do you got to do?
You got to go to precinctstrategy.com, learn how to get involved in your party.
And then you asked me to mention the fact that twice a week now, Tuesdays, 2 p.m.
Eastern, Friday nights, 9 p.m.
Eastern.
So this Friday, 9 p.m.
Eastern.
unidentified
Jonathan Broadbent from Ohio, my cohort in Ohio.
dan schultz
He's been on War Room as a success story.
unidentified
We co-host a X space.
dan schultz
And the way to find it is just get on at those times, 2 p.m. Eastern on Tuesdays, 9 p.m. Eastern on Friday nights.
Uh we have a precinct strategy community.
You can go in there and find the link, or just search precinct strategy and sort by latest, and you'll find you'll you should find it.
unidentified
You can follow me at those are those.
steve bannon
Go ahead, give your social media.
I was just gonna say, I'm that's the number two on on uh X. Is that PM, 2 p.m. and 9 p.m. Eastern daylight time?
Eastern time.
dan schultz
Yes, Eastern.
Yep, 9 p.m. Eastern on Friday nights, 2 p.m. Eastern on Tuesdays.
We try to do one during the day and one at night, and and it it works out pretty well.
And uh we have a good crew that comes on, and we only talk about the precinct committee men strategy and how to fill those 200,000 vacancies.
steve bannon
We'll uh we'll stream uh we'll stream that in uh what what time's your weekday podcast?
dan schultz
Uh there's a 6 p.m.
steve bannon
Eastern.
What time?
dan schultz
6 p.m.
unidentified
Eastern.
dan schultz
6 p.m.
Eastern.
steve bannon
6 p.m. Eastern Daily, 2 p.m. and 9 p.m. on Tuesday and Friday.
Uh Steve Stern, brother, You did a great job the other day.
Coordinate where they go to get all your content, particularly this.
We're trying to push this out, the whole thing.
We had a huge audience yesterday, but we want to make sure everybody gets a chance to see this, sir.
steve stern
So we had 77,000 on yours alone.
We had 5 million all over with all the podcasters.
If you want to see this now, go to Stern American Rumble.
Very easy.
Um, we had many, many people on there.
One person from every state.
It lasted four hours.
Um, it was sensational.
Dan was great on it.
And we have another one coming up on election integrity, which will be October the 8th, which is going to be is important.
We'll hopefully get you on to speak.
Uh, we have some great speakers on there.
We're gonna have this for J Virginia.
General Flynn's gonna come on, Ken Nunencamp, executive director of Virginia, Brian Swenson from the RNC, Joe DeBox, uh, who you I think had on, the America First Way House, Andy Manchione, Senior Vice President AMAC, Gary Myers, the Myers Report, Dr. Robert Epstein, John Vieira from Botifry Now, Cleta Mitchell, E I N, Greg Stenstrom, and many, many other people will be on.
unidentified
Where does you want to get on?
steve stern
Just go to S3.
Yeah, go to ST50.
Right.
unidentified
Dan's also we need to your uh the RNC's asking for poll watch co-workers for Virginia.
And perfect.
steve bannon
Um Dan Schultz will make sure we stream that.
Steve Stern will make sure we stream that.
Thank you, guys.
Breaking new Tim Pool is good.
We're gonna toss to the Charlie Kirk show at noon, as we've done every day for the every workday for the last five four years, is it?
Tim Pool is going to be co-hosting today, so don't miss it.
Tim Poole is going to co-host the Charlie Kirk show.
Uh, then at 2 o'clock uh Poso, uh, 3 o'clock, Gruber, 4 o'clock, the great Eric Bowling.
We're back here live at 5 p.m.
Uh, Russell's just been announced, gonna be at the Oval Office with the President of the United States at 1 p.m. today.
If that's open to the public, uh, we'll we'll definitely uh show that.
Also, uh Brian Glenn is gonna be making a special trip this afternoon.
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