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Sept. 27, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4810: Penn StateTurns Out For Charlie Kirk; Trump To Send Troops Into Portland
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bradley thayer
05:17
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jack posobiec
06:40
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steve bannon
16:39
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anthony coley
01:08
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ben harnwell
03:24
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chris hayes
01:40
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cliff maloney
01:36
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jensen huang
01:10
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marc elias
01:11
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matt taibbi
01:50
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mike lindell
02:01
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brendan ballou
00:58
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jake tapper
00:10
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jesse watters
00:53
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michelle goldberg
00:28
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timothy snyder
00:45
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unidentified
I think fear is pretty pervasive.
And I wonder if you guys feel the way Jim Comey does or if you ever feel afraid.
You first, Brendan.
Well, it's a great question.
And I'm glad that James Comey is striking a tone of defiance.
brendan ballou
I think that's exactly right.
unidentified
I completely understand why a person would feel afraid in this moment, no matter who you are.
But just as there are reasons for fear, I think that there are reasons for defiance and even reasons for hope.
brendan ballou
You know, one of the things that I find encouraging here is that this administration wasn't able to secure an indictment on its first proposed charge, which suggests that even only seeing the government's evidence, that these grand jurors rejected them.
unidentified
So, you know, the fact that they've got an incredibly weak case, I think is a reason for hope.
I think the other reason for hope is that this is a terrifically incompetent administration generally, and it seems like an incompetent leadership that's coming into the Eastern District of Virginia.
So even though this administration might be pursuing political prosecutions and pursuing it very aggressively, I don't think that they're necessarily going to pursue them particularly well.
Asked Trump if there will be more prosecutions of people on his enemies list.
And the president said this.
It's not a list, but I think there'll be others.
I mean, they're corrupt.
These were corrupt radical left Democrats.
There'll be others.
Look, it was, that's my opinion.
They weaponized the Justice de Cropbook like nobody in history.
There will be others.
Eight months in, Donald Trump is making his personal revenge the law of the land.
And you and I have talked for months about the weaponization of the Department of Justice against his political opponents.
You know, Comey was not the first person who was targeted or even the first person indicted.
You know, Congresswoman MacIver in New Jersey has been indicted for doing her job in oversight over ICE.
But notwithstanding that, it was still shocking to actually see it happen, to see that Donald Trump told the Attorney General in a Truth Social post that he needed to go after several individuals, one of whom was Comey, that it was urgent to do so, and then essentially triggered the firing of the then acting U.S. attorney that he had nominated.
There was then this interregnum period that I still haven't seen a lot of reporting on, in which another woman was apparently going to become the acting U.S. attorney, and then she was not.
And instead, his former personal lawyer with no prosecutorial experience was put in place and returned an indictment.
marc elias
I mean, it is shocking in that this is the kind of conduct that you expect from a third world dictatorship.
It's the kind of conduct that, frankly, in normal times, would lead to impeachment.
unidentified
But here we are.
From what Comey did, which we know he did, I mean, they doctored evidence to get warrants to spy on Trump.
jesse watters
He basically created a conspiracy to unsee the president and sabotage the presidency.
It almost seems like he was undercharged here.
unidentified
Yeah, I think so.
People have to remember what is the substance of these lies?
matt taibbi
What were they for?
unidentified
These news stories that were put out there that were leaked to the press, the thrust of them was that Donald Trump was under the throes of a foreign government.
He was a Russian agent.
matt taibbi
Think of the national security implications of implying that your own president is a spy for a foreign country.
Would that be tolerated in any normal country?
unidentified
You cannot let that go on.
You can't have an FBI director doing these kinds of things and engaging in these sorts of manipulations and lying to Congress about it and getting away with it.
jesse watters
Yeah, he basically framed him as a traitor.
unidentified
And what's the punishment for treason?
We all know what that is.
jesse watters
I mean, this is the worst thing you can possibly do.
unidentified
You know, James is a little bit of a drama queen.
He put out a video last night.
jesse watters
He's the victim.
unidentified
He's the martyr.
He's going to fight like hell.
How do you see James Comey mentally going into this trial?
One thing I think we've learned during the Russian Gate period is that James Comey has a peculiar sort of vanity that I think is often his undoing.
matt taibbi
He often thinks that he's being clever when he's not.
unidentified
He often thinks that he's showing tremendous rectitude when he's actually looking like a phony on television.
The more exposure that he gets for himself, I think actually the more it will redound to Trump's benefit.
So as far as I'm concerned, it's good if he's on television more during this period.
The Justice Department is now subpoenaing Fannie Willis, who is, of course, the prosecutor in Atlanta, Georgia, who brought charges against the co-conspirators on January 6th.
The FBI is firing 15 agents who five years ago kneeled briefly and were in a photo.
Again, there's the focus thing and there's the like rushing aspect of it, which both seem.
I mean, I think part of the problem with this stuff is that the number of Americans who know who Fannie Willis is, my guess is it's relatively small compared to the number of Americans who know Jimmy Kimmel.
michelle goldberg
Yes, exactly.
unidentified
And so, you know, when he picks these really high-profile fights with people who have, you know, it's not the same level of who exist in the celebrity realm.
It's just like, you know, his fights with Taylor Swift have also not, I think, kind of redounded to his benefit.
chris hayes
Stephen Miller, the fanatic who is driving much of Donald Trump's domestic policy agenda, calls the Democratic Party a domestic extremist organization.
unidentified
And yesterday, Miller seemed beyond pleased with a new order Trump sign that essentially directs the government to investigate and prosecute politically progressive people and organizations who they claim falsely fund left-wing political violence.
The FBI has apparently fired 15 agents who took a knee during the 2020 Black Lives Matter protest.
The Washington Post is reporting that.
The agents say they didn't necessarily do it to express solidarity with the protesters' goals, but to defuse a tense situation.
Not that it would necessarily matter.
We've also got a New York Times report that Fonnie Willis, who is, of course, the Georgia prosecutor who brought charges against the crew of folks that tried to engineer the January 6th, that the Department of Justice has issued a subpoena for her travel records.
And the reason I bring both these up is the idea of them moving very quickly and very aggressively in front of all of us and what you think that means about the strength of what they're doing and its likelihood of succeed.
Well, as always, the likelihood of succeeding depends on us, but I think you're right to point to the speed as not necessarily a sign of strength.
One thing which is very characteristic of this crew is that they don't have an overall plan.
They want to change the regime for sure, but there's no one central figure who's making the plan.
Instead, you have this kind of stochastic and very often personal effort, which is also a point of weakness.
timothy snyder
It's reprehensible, illegal, and against everything in the best of American traditions to turn justice against individuals.
unidentified
But it's also not the most effective way of doing things because we can sympathize with individuals.
And that's part of what the pushback will be about.
There's a phrase, and I didn't hear about this phrase until just a few years ago, China hawks.
Yes.
And apparently, if you're a Chinahawk, you get to wear that label with pride.
It's almost like a badge of honor.
It's a badge of shame.
There's no question it's a badge of shame.
There's no question that although they want what's in the best interest of our country and we all want what's in the best interests of our country, destroying that pipeline of the American dream is not patriotic.
They think they're doing the right thing for our country, but it's not patriotic.
Not even a little bit.
No, no to the CCP.
Chinese and Communist Party, CCP fires.
We must hold them be accountable.
CCP must have paid for it.
Wild day out here in New York City.
The key difference between Trump 1.0 and Trump 2.0 and Tyler just hit that death is now that he has people in place at the Justice Department like Pam Bondi who don't care what facts are.
They don't care about the rule of law, which requires people to prosecute us to treat like cases alike.
anthony coley
They care about one thing, and that is appeasing Donald Trump.
And that's very different from his first term, where we had people like Bill Barr who, and I have a lot of problems with Bill Barr, Charles, but when it mattered most, that Republican attorney general told Donald Trump that he was wrong about the big lie about the 2020 election.
unidentified
His previous attorney general, Jeff Sessions, do you remember Sessions appropriately recused himself from overseeing the FBI investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election?
But that mold, that mold is gone this year.
That's why we're saying all of these types of actions against Cooney, against Fonnie Willis and Letitia James.
But even though the facts don't warrant it, he's got people in place to do whatever he wants done.
This is the final scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
steve bannon
It's going to happen.
unidentified
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Saturday, 27, September Year of our Lord 2025.
We're going to start tonight.
I think it's 7, 7.30.
Oregon plays Penn State.
Oregon was Charlie Kirk's team.
They actually, I think, honored him or the coach honored him last week right after the assassination.
steve bannon
Let's go to Penn State.
unidentified
We're going to start in Pennsylvania.
We've got Cliff Maloney and Kevin Pasovic.
steve bannon
Jack Pasovic is going to join us in a moment to talk about the investigation of what's happening with terrorism.
But let's go to Penn State, Cliff Maloney.
unidentified
Cliff, why are we out there today?
And it's going to build over time.
You guys have a tailgator.
And Charlie Kirk is being honored, sir.
Well, Steve Lincoln, before I even answer, take a look at this crowd.
cliff maloney
This is the line right here.
unidentified
Right here is the line of folks lined up.
cliff maloney
We're giving out free freedom shirts to any of the college students here at Penn State.
unidentified
They're out here.
cliff maloney
We're honoring Charlie's legacy.
unidentified
We're obviously rooting for the Nittany Lions.
We're not rooting for the Ducks.
We got to focus.
cliff maloney
We are Penn State.
unidentified
But this is about getting every single person out there that sees the difference between good and evil and the horrific tragedy that happened to Charlie.
He would want us to do the work.
So we're out here.
cliff maloney
We're not sitting back.
unidentified
You know, we're not just relaxing.
We want to get back to it, and we're going to register tons of people.
We've got 5,000 of these freedom shirts in Charlie's honor that we're going to be handing out to students.
Cliff, talk to me about Charlie.
We had you on so many times, your grassroots game.
Really, what delivered Pennsylvania was just elbow grease.
Talk to me about that.
The true memory of Charlie Kirk in Pennsylvania, sir.
Yeah, well, look, Charlie gets all the credit.
You know, I said this on your show probably a year and a half ago, Steve, that Charlie was the one that called me and said, hey, listen, Cliff, I need you to go back to your home state of Pennsylvania.
You got to run this PHA's program.
I want you to figure out how to hire 120 people, knock 500,000 doors.
And the honor of my lifetime was being there on the live stream with Charlie on election night.
And he was the one that predicted it.
He said, if we pull off North Carolina and Georgia, Pennsylvania is going to be the play, as Jack Pesovic would say.
And that was true.
cliff maloney
You know, so that moment when we called it on election night, and all of a sudden Erica runs in the room and hugs Charlie and they have that emotional exchange.
unidentified
I mean, that video has been played hundreds of millions of times.
cliff maloney
It's a great memory.
unidentified
He's a great friend.
It's a horrific tragedy, but we will continue to do the work.
Cliff, the game is not until 7.30.
Can we just put, I just want to push the camera and show the line today.
How can you have a line out there at 10 o'clock in the morning, at 10 o'clock in the morning for a game that doesn't even start until for who's a fan of Charlie Kirk here?
Woo!
Look at that right there, Steve.
The game is at 7.30.
We've got hours and hours.
Wow.
Hey, Cliff.
That's the power of Charlie.
Let's hear the chant for Charlie as we go to break.
Can we hear it?
Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie.
We love you, Charlie.
Amazing.
Cliff, Kevin Pesovic, live from Penn State.
With Penn State fans who are there to honor Charlie, Charlie was a big Oregon fan.
steve bannon
Cliff, thank you so much, brother.
unidentified
We're going to come back to you later in the show.
steve bannon
I'll text you.
unidentified
Wow.
Charlie Kirk in the ground game of Pennsylvania.
Incredible.
Look at that.
Lined up at 10 o'clock in the morning for a game that doesn't even play until 7.30.
Just incredible.
Absolutely incredible.
Okay, we're packed today.
We're going to try to go back to this Penn State Oregon game.
steve bannon
Look at that right there.
unidentified
Can we cut to that shot?
There we go.
Look at that.
Just absolutely amazing.
I'm giving away 5,000 shirts today.
Freedom shirts, Real America's Voice.
Turning point, all of it.
Is that incredible?
What a tribute to a great young man.
Incredible.
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to go to the other Pesobic brother, Jack.
We've got some updates on the terrorism.
You heard all the whining and moaning and bitching from the Democrats at the top in our great cold open.
You're about to hear reality next in the war room.
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jesse watters
From what Comey did, which we know he did, I mean, they doctored evidence to get warrants to spy on Trump.
unidentified
He basically created a conspiracy to unsee the president and sabotage the presidency.
It almost seems like he was undercharged here.
Yeah, I think so.
People have to remember what is the substance of these lies?
What were they for?
These news stories that were put out there that were leaked to the press.
The thrust of them was that Donald Trump was under the throes of a foreign government.
matt taibbi
He was a Russian agent.
Think of the national security implications of implying that your own president is a spy for a foreign country.
unidentified
Would that be tolerated in any normal country?
You cannot let that go on.
matt taibbi
You can't have an FBI director doing these.
unidentified
It took Matt Taibbi, who's no conservative by far, to put the spotlight on exactly what the issue is.
Jack Pasovic, Taibbi's right.
steve bannon
I mean, it's the purpose of what from the allowing the dossier to leak all of it.
They try to make it seem that, I mean, their purpose was to destroy Trump's presidency by making him a Russian asset, sir.
unidentified
Well, Steve, thanks so much for having me on.
It's great to be back here in D.C. Not sure how long exactly I'll be here, but we're holding it down at least with the family this weekend.
And, you know, look, what Taibbi is knocking on here is quite purposeful.
The Russiagate lie, which was spread not just by Comey, but by Comey, Brennan, Clapper, the highest levels of the Obama administration, this was a lie that turned the intelligence agencies.
Remember, this was the predicate lie that started the Patriot purge of our military, that started the Patriot purge of the first administration.
This was the same guy, by the way, who sent FBI agents to go, he bragged about it.
He sent FBI agents to go and interrogate General Flynn under false pretenses inside the White House.
jack posobiec
They ran an operation inside the Trump White House in the very first days of the administration, Steve, when you were there yourself.
unidentified
And he was doing all of this to undermine the duly elected president of the United States.
jack posobiec
That is something that simply cannot stand.
unidentified
That is why.
And of course, in any other republic, you would have had these people gone after in en masse.
You would take all the conspirators and they would be tried all together.
Now, the way the DOJ is doing it is they're separating it, they're going after different specific crimes.
Fine.
jack posobiec
But people need to look back and understand just how absolutely horrific and severing this was to us as a nation because it gave people, gave the liberals, the Democrats,
unidentified
this idea that they weren't just pushing back against people they disagreed with, that this was a sinister foreign plot and painted a picture that led to, by the way, the shooting of Steve Scales at a baseball practice over there in Virginia because the shooter, if you looked at his Facebook page, he was posting about it non-stop: that we have to stop these Republicans because they're all Russian agents.
Give me, you've got a breaking story from last night on the action we're taking now.
Now we're in the action phase, and I agree with you.
steve bannon
I want to see more arrests, right?
unidentified
I anticipate that's coming quite soon.
But we have a bigger, we have actually a bigger mandate and a bigger platform now, and that is rolling up these extremists.
You see, Chris Hayes and everybody, they're all freaked out.
Oh, Miller and all these guys are designated the Democratic Party as an extremist organization.
Well, hey, it is an extremist organization, and it leads to extremist violent organizations.
Talk to me about we initiated the action last night on the joint terrorist task force.
You've been talking about that that would be basically a leveling up.
We would be going next level when that happened.
Talk to us about that.
Well, Steve, the Joint Terrorism Task Force are designed exactly for this purpose.
These are, and there's 200 of these all around the country and then really ensconced in the major cities.
Of course, people know about New York, LA, Chicago.
And this is where you've got local police, so NYPD, LAPD, working hand in hand with DHS, FBI, sometimes elements of the intelligence agencies where it makes sense, state police in some areas.
So what you're doing is you're breaking down those silos and you've got a fusion team to be able to share intelligence and to be able to conduct operations in those specific areas of operation, those AORs.
jack posobiec
So when you have the ability to do that, now you're going to actually put up units where, Steve, what I've been doing, Antifa investigations, and you talk to law enforcement from time to time.
There's always some guy who's been in the back of the office in D.C., New York, Philadelphia, Portland.
They know the networks.
unidentified
They know the ringleaders.
They know the financiers.
They've been tracking all of it.
jack posobiec
The problem is they didn't have the green light.
unidentified
They didn't get the rules of engagement.
They didn't get the authority to actually go and act on the information that they already have.
And so this is what, and if you look at the memo that President Trump signed two days ago, this new National Security Presidential Memo 7, what that does, it directs the Attorney General to go to activate the joint terrorism task forces.
jack posobiec
So all the doxing, the swatting, the riots, the planning, the conspiracy, that goes down there.
unidentified
Then, boom.
Then you have the IRS and CINCEN out of the U.S. Treasury Department.
They are directed to go after the financial networks as well.
So this is actually a very meaty presidential memo, a little bit too long for the media to read.
I went and read it.
And by the way, I have to say that as a small token, I really appreciate that that memo specifically references the fact that the phrase that anti-fascist symbols, Antifa symbols, were written on the bullets that were loaded up to shoot and kill my friend Charlie Kirk.
And so that specific assassination is referenced here in this memo, delegating this authority to the JTTFs and finally putting them into action.
No, it's the assassination of Charlie that's the initiating incident here.
That's what finally brought it to global attention.
steve bannon
Something you and I have been arguing and Charlie have been arguing for a long time.
unidentified
That these are the transgender militias and/or Antifa.
steve bannon
I mean, good Lord, Pasovic, I had to get you out of Antifa fights eight years ago, 10 years ago, when you were still pushing the envelope with these guys.
unidentified
I made a film with Andrew Breitbart, Occupy Unmasked Andrew Breitbart's last work on Antifa back in 2012.
steve bannon
I mean, people have been pushing on this.
Are you confident, given your expertise of Antifa, and now we have there's a leak that sources under investigation already about the financing of all this?
unidentified
Are you in a better place right now about where you think we're going as a government, both on the legal prosecutions and on the pick and shovel work of taking these violent terrorist organizations aligned with the Democratic Party apart?
Steve, this is what it's all about.
And I've been sitting there all week in the Charlie Kirk studio and saying that as wonderful as the Charlie Kirk Memorial episodes have been, we need the action now.
jack posobiec
We need the action.
unidentified
We need to be coming back and saying it's time for the federal government for a federal response.
Yes, on the networks, also looking at these transgender cells, the furries that seem to have this prior knowledge of Charlie's assassination, these groups in Utah saying, oh, there's going to be something coming when Charlie comes to town on the 10th.
You got to watch the 10th is going to be big.
All of this information that goes out.
Plus, the work with Besant, Pam Bondi as well coming in, and Stephen Miller, the fact that Stephen Miller, and you saw his speech over at the memorial, very impassioned speech from the heart, absolutely from the heart, that you can tell he is absolutely taking the lead on this, working in conjunction with the rest of the cabinet to make it a full priority for our government.
Steve, the enemy is here.
The enemy is here right now.
They've taken out Charlie.
They're going after our ICE agents.
They just shot up an ICE facility outside Chicago.
They're going up against other ICE, or excuse me, they shot up the one outside of Dallas and they're attacking the one outside of Chicago.
They found a guy with a gun.
Fortunately, they were able to stop him before they shot him up.
And if you don't, if you don't go after the networks right now, it sends a message and it sends a message that it's open season on ICE, on Trump, on every Trump supporter.
And on Turning Point, people, look, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
They know exactly what they're doing.
Jack Basovic, great work in Phoenix this week with the Turning Point team.
I'm sure you'd be back out there in the Turning Point team really represented, reinitiating the college tour already and having a great week of shows.
Where do people get you now more than ever, Jack?
steve bannon
Particularly your Twitter feed is kind of the advanced intelligence operation, the air search radar.
unidentified
Where do folks go to keep up with you over the weekend until we come back on Monday?
Yeah, Steve, well, of course, we'll be up at X at True Social at Jack Pesovic, The Telegram, The Getter.
And, you know, we're actually going through, we're digging up some of the interviews that I did with Charlie, some of the final podcasts.
We just found one where we were talking about the book on humans and with the history of the Bolsheviks.
And Charlie, he was so, he was so insightful.
He said, Jack, how could a group of only a couple of thousand Bolsheviks take over the entire Russian Empire, 100 million people?
And I said, Charlie, people didn't take it seriously.
People didn't react until it was too late.
Jack Pesovic, one more time.
Where do you go on Twitter?
What's that, Jack Pasovic?
The book on humans, the Bolsheviks were a couple of thousand.
Amazing story.
Jack Basovic tells it.
Very relevant to today.
Jack, thanks you so much for calling in.
steve bannon
Just guy for Red Eye.
unidentified
Can't start better than the Basovic brothers to start off a Saturday, right?
Kevin Basovic's up for Cliff Maloney at the Penn State, Oregon game at a tailgate party in honor of Charlie Kirk giving away 5,000 of the shirts that Charlie Kirk was wearing at the moment they assassinated him.
Short commercial break, back in a month.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
Okay, Dr. Thayer's going to join us on the terrorism.
steve bannon
He's been very instrumental in making all this happen.
unidentified
But first, I've got someone that's gone to ground.
steve bannon
Mike Lindell joins us.
unidentified
Mike, I know you're not a Secret Service guy at a Beth Page protecting the president.
You sitting there with, well, I don't know, a rifle.
This has nothing to do with SmartMatic, what happened in Courtyard.
steve bannon
So you haven't gone to ground.
unidentified
You haven't gone and started your own militia, sir.
What is happening on a Saturday morning?
steve bannon
You're there with a weapon.
unidentified
Well, I'll tell you, Steve, you know, I don't lose stuff in court every day, but when I do, I don't let it bother me.
I go hunt my normal hunting trips.
And I'll tell you, the smart manic, they have to realize I don't give up because there's only one truth.
And that judge made a very bad brewing in Minnesota with the summary judgment, but I'm not going to let it bother me.
We're having a great time out here at Duck Hunt.
Thanks.
Talk to me though.
The posse today we started Penn State in a commemoration for Charlie Kirk.
People are looking for a deal on this Saturday.
What do you got for, sir?
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mike lindell
Free shipping last weekend for the free shipping plus those huge discounts.
unidentified
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You guys can find it all at mypillow.com forward slash war room.
Call my reps.
mike lindell
They're back home.
unidentified
They're very busy.
mike lindell
1-800-873-1062.
unidentified
And I will say this, Steve.
I will never stop until we get to paper ballots hand counted.
You know that.
Smart Manic knows that.
They all know that.
I don't even know why they keep attacking me, but we will win.
Gotcha to the end.
There we go.
We just got some ducks here.
Lion in, everybody.
Okay, get back to the business at hand, shooting ducks.
steve bannon
Thank you, Mike.
Appreciate you.
unidentified
What a warrior and crazy.
steve bannon
That's what I love about him.
unidentified
Dr. Thayer, so a lot going on.
We're hurtling towards the government shutdown.
This is to our advantage.
Russ Vogt has a total plan to do mass firings.
steve bannon
They're now freaking out.
The Democrats may say, hey, we got the wrong strategy here.
unidentified
Also, you heard last night where they've heard it from folks over at CRA.
They've told them up front that say, hey, look, we're out of money.
The WIC program goes away.
All of it goes away.
steve bannon
So the Democrats may be creating around us.
President Trump doesn't care.
unidentified
He went to the Ryder Cup yesterday and is focused on other problems.
Dr. Thayer, including the terrorism problem, what you just sent me, did he just can we pull that on truth?
Just read, Dr. Thayer, because you've been instrumental in all this.
The truth social that President Trump, the President of the United States, just put out, sir?
Yes, Steve, great to join you.
So we just, truthed at the request of Secretary of Homeland Security, Christy Noam, I'm directing Secretary of War Pete Heckseth to provide all necessary troops to protect war-ravaged Portland and any of our ICE facilities under siege from an attack by Antifa and other domestic terrorists.
I am also authorizing full force, if necessary.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
So he just sent that out this morning.
Well, this is the other part that we've talked about.
Number one, declare martial law in in Portland and go in and round them up, right?
And those are the foot soldiers, but the foot soldiers, tell us about the layers of Antifa because you know this better than anybody.
steve bannon
You got the foot soldiers in front.
unidentified
You then have the military and other people inside the deep state that train them.
And then you've got the organization, the media, the politicians, the not-for-profits, and SOARs.
Walk us through it, sir.
Right, Steve.
I think that's a good way to think of it.
At base, or the muscle is going to be provided by these individuals.
bradley thayer
For example, as President Trump just said, those surrounding Portland.
unidentified
But those individuals are also organized and communicate.
They have resources.
And so you have to go deeper, if you will, to the nervous system that connects it to the brain, right?
The leadership.
Antifa likes to say that it's a cephalus, right?
It's headless.
It doesn't have an organization, but it certainly does, of course.
And that's going to be revealed through the investigations.
And Jack's comments, of course, on the creation of the or the implications really of the joint terrorism task force is hugely important.
So you're going to have the foundations and democratic donors that are going to are really very important here.
bradley thayer
Secondly, Steve, and this needs to get attention.
unidentified
The Chinese Communist Party is also behind this.
So there are, if you will, domestic elements, Democratic donors, for example, Tides Foundation, Act Blue, but the CCP is also behind it.
So we need, as we advance the investigation, to ensure that we get to the CCP.
Because if you only go after, if you will, quote unquote domestic actors, you're not winning.
You've got to go after.
Let's play the package.
Can I play the NVIDIA?
Can I get the, I want to play this package for you one more time.
Can I go ahead and play it?
You ready?
Let's go ahead and play this, and I'm going to get Dr. Thayer's response.
There's a phrase, and I didn't hear about this phrase until just a few years ago: China hawks.
Yes.
And apparently, if you're a Chinahawk, you get to wear that label with pride.
jensen huang
It's almost like a badge of honor.
It's a badge of shame.
unidentified
There's no question it's a badge of shame.
There's no question that although they want what's in the best interests of our country, and we all want what's in the best interests of our country, destroying that pipeline of the American dream is not patriotic.
They think they're doing the right thing for our country, but it's not patriotic.
Not even a little bit.
No, no, to the CCP.
Chinese Communist Party says CP fires.
We must hold them be accountable.
You see the wisdom of Lao Bajing right there in New York City.
This is one of the wealthiest guys in the world, most powerful guys in the world.
He should never be allowed in the White House again.
He should be under arrest.
steve bannon
He's an agent of influence.
unidentified
I've said this forever.
If you look at every move he makes and his background, he is an agent of influence of the Chinese Communist Party.
He should be arrested today, not tomorrow, not tonight, today.
To sit there and say that the China Hawks, a badge of shame, screw you, dude.
We're going to run you.
This is outrageous.
This is what's happening to the country.
They talk about artificial intelligence, and we need no regulation, artificial intelligence.
steve bannon
Peter Thiel saying that really the anti-Christ people want to regulate artificial intelligence.
unidentified
If we shut down their access to technology and chips and training, there wouldn't be any arms race here.
steve bannon
Don't buy the media narrative coming from the oligarchs.
unidentified
And this guy's one of the worst.
He is an agent of influence for the Chinese Communist Party.
And for him to sit there and say the American dream is predicated on us allowing China to steal everything, our intellectual property.
Let me repeat this.
steve bannon
This guy is an agent of influence.
unidentified
And to have him anywhere near the White House, all these people rubbing up on him, right?
steve bannon
The people around President Trump, the technology shop over there, they ought to be terminated and run out of the White House today.
unidentified
This guy is an, let me repeat this in case anybody's missing my point.
steve bannon
He's an agent of influence at the highest levels for the Chinese Communist Party.
unidentified
Dr. Thayer, am I incorrect in that, sir?
No, absolutely right.
What he said was deliberate, of course.
So what he's attempting to do is threat deflate.
He's attempting to minimize, of course, the danger of the Chinese Communist Party.
He's attempting to tie the success of the evil CCP, Chinese Communist Party, to the American dream, right?
To what are the birthright of Americans?
bradley thayer
So he wants essentially the engagement policies to continue.
unidentified
The policies that got us in this mess, the policies that crushed Lao Baijing, the policies that are committing genocide in Xinjiang, the policies that are causing the expansion in the South China Sea, East China Sea, rapid buildup of Chinese nuclear weapons, conventional might, for example, that we saw on display on September 3rd.
What he's trying to do is to justify the theft of technology to aid the most evil regime, of course, on the face of the planet.
So it's a deliberate exercise.
How he could get away with that, of course, is obviously on a friendly channel, but nonetheless, he needs to be challenged on that every time he shows up.
We need to recognize, Steve, not only that he's an agent of influence, right, but this is precisely the siphon.
This is money that he's profiting, right?
Technology that he's sending to the PRC is making the PRC a greater threat, making them wealthier.
bradley thayer
They're using part of that wealth to fund Antifa.
unidentified
Yes.
So there's the intersection between obviously the growth of the Chinese Communist Party and how they're able to use their might to undermine us in many ways.
It's a spectrum through threat deflators like Jinsen Huang and so many others, but also by funding and supporting through front organizations, which the PRC are expert at creating and running Antifa and other organizations to undermine us.
bradley thayer
This is a direct threat.
unidentified
So he's essentially the money changer, right?
He's essentially one of the funders of Antifa through his actions.
And he should be looked at very, very closely.
Oh, no.
And not just obviously this individual, but many others.
steve bannon
Yeah.
unidentified
He's the CEO, chairman, CEO, founder of NVIDIA, one of the most powerful people in the world and Kaltow to by the United States government.
It's just ridiculous.
steve bannon
He ought to be rolled up today, a very dangerous individual.
The Chinese Communist Party would be nowhere in artificial intelligence if we cut him off from capital, know-how, expertise, technology, nowhere.
Dr. Thayer, where do people, your work on all this, particularly the terrorism part, has been extraordinary.
Where do people get you, sir?
unidentified
Where's your social media?
At Brad Thayer, Bradley Thayer on Truth and at Getter.
So the whole of government response is absolutely necessary.
But Steve, it's also a whole of society response, right?
bradley thayer
We need to popularize this and not give these guys any room to hide as they support Antifa directly or through front organizations.
unidentified
Thank you, brother.
Can we put it back up where we go?
Dr. Thaya, thank you.
steve bannon
I just want to, Donald Trump, the President of the United States, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, just put up a true social, at the request of Secretary of Homeland Security, Christy Noam, I am directing Secretary of War Pete Hexett to provide all necessary troops to protect war-ravaged Portland and any of our ICE facilities under siege from attack by Antifa and other domestic terrorist terrorists.
I'm authorizing full force if necessary.
unidentified
That's the Secretary of War.
Stakes could not be higher.
We have advocated this for a long time.
President Trump is now fully engaged.
The Joint Terrorism Task Force kicked in last night.
Jack Vasovic reported that.
steve bannon
Dr. Bradley Thayer here talking about President Trump ordering the troops into Portland, Oregon.
As President Trump says, no games, no games.
unidentified
Games are over.
Reality is about to hit Antifa and its supporters in the Democratic Party.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Okay, bottom of the next hour, I'm going to have Philip Patrick come in.
steve bannon
We're going to talk capital markets and precious metals, gold's on a tear.
unidentified
You need to understand why.
Take out your phone right now and text Bannon B-A-N-N-O-N at 989898, the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump.
And these lays out not just the logic for it and why it's a hedge.
And we've got some pretty explosive news to break down at 10.30.
steve bannon
I don't think people are thinking about this the right way.
unidentified
Philip Patrick and I kind of walk you through it, why it's kind of a permanent revolution, it appears, for precious metals because of fiat currency and what central banks and other money center banks are doing.
We'll break that all down then.
But this talks about IRAs, 401ks, all of it.
Plus you get access to Philip Patrick and the team is what you need.
Build a relationship with these guys at Birch Gold now that it looks like every couple of days gold is setting another all-time high.
Do I have Ben Harwell back up?
So Ben, two things I got to get from you is all this in the Ukraine because it looks like we're rapidly hurtling into the connect part of the Third World War.
President Trump has tried and tried and tried to bring the Russians to the table, including kind of threatening this when he was in England.
And by the way, England is putting in a digital ID that even Boris Johnson, as bad as he is, is sitting there saying, I will never take a government ID.
And so this whole idea of the surveillance state is actually getting more advanced in our mother country.
And I think that's very, very dangerous for us here.
But on Ukraine, Zelensky said yesterday he ain't leaving until they've won the war.
That could be a couple of decades, if ever.
steve bannon
Your thoughts on Ukraine before we go to the United Kingdom?
unidentified
Look, Steve, Axios have, and I push this out on Geta.
Axios have this interview with Zelensky, who says he had President Trump's explicit backing to hit Russian energy targets and infrastructure and arms factories.
And he said that if Ukraine gets the additional long-range weaponry from the U.S., which he spoke to President Trump directly about on the margins of the UN, he said, we will use that.
And Zelensky added that the Russian centers of power, like the Kremlin, were very much on the table.
And Zelensky even added that basically the Russians working in the Kremlin, they need to know where the bomb shelters are.
Because if they don't stop the war, they're going to need it in any case.
ben harnwell
Steve, this is really something that you've been highlighting now for many, many months.
unidentified
This is the World War III well underway.
And I have to say, and I'll pick my words carefully on this, because I'm not certainly not going to come under the warming and criticize President Trump.
But if President Trump feels or thinks or is acting under the assumption that supplying U.S. arms via NATO is going to eliminate America from the picture from any potential reprisal on the Russian part because of that technicality being supplied via NATO, I think President Trump is making a very large miscalculation on that.
ben harnwell
America is certainly going to be dragged in if Zelensky uses long-range missiles to bomb the Kremlin.
unidentified
There's no way I think America is going to stay out of that.
So you're right to say President Trump has been working very hard over the last eight months to achieve peace.
ben harnwell
But really, I think the way things are going now, he really needs to do what he said in the election campaign.
unidentified
And if he can't end the war, he's got to withdraw the United States explicitly and implicitly from every engagement.
And it has to be on the table now.
Really, if you look at what the Europeans are doing, so they're all sort of walking with the swagger because they've got President Trump's backing now because he said, again, President Trump has said that he thinks that Zelensky can win this war.
It should be on the table because of the European swagger, American withdrawal from NATO.
But hang on, but hang on.
But the swagger comes, he had the meeting here in D.C.
The swagger comes with really no commitment.
There's no real commitment for money.
Macron's government is essentially paralyzed, imploded, because of the money situation.
They're broke.
The Germans are essentially broke.
They're talking about they can't give any troops.
England is in a financial crisis right now.
steve bannon
Starmer's approval, I think, is 11%.
unidentified
Italy is just more phony happy talk.
There's no commitment of troops.
Because one of the defense ministers said the other day, he says, we use this term security guarantees as kind of happy talk.
He says, security guarantees essentially the commitment of troops to go up to the line of contact in a peaceful deployment.
But you must be committed to engage and fight the Russian army in open combat.
And there ain't a country in Europe that's prepared to do that right now.
They're just not.
And so President Trump is sitting there saying, hey, if they want to buy weapons, I'll sell them all the weapons possible.
But I'm not giving them, he just reiterated the other day, no more $350 billion like Biden did.
So why do the Europeans have swagger?
steve bannon
I realize President Trump said, hey, you know, and he was trying to beat up Putin by saying, hey, I think that they didn't take it in a couple of weeks.
unidentified
They're a paper tiger.
They're going broke.
We're going to take their $350 billion assets.
We'll talk about that with Philip Patrick when they get here.
That Ukraine cannot just go back and reverse what the war has done for the last three or four years, but then take back Donbas and Crimea.
That's what President Trump negotiating.
Why would NATO have swagger when internally to each country, they don't actually have the ability to put the money, the troops, and particularly the troops where they have to go to be prepared for combat in eastern Ukraine with the Russian army.
Sir, we got about a minute.
I'm going to hold you through.
steve bannon
Give me a minute response.
unidentified
Well, the first thing, Steve, to say is on your list of what is going wrong in Europe, I must add the fact that France's sovereign debt was downgraded by Fit Fitch's, right?
Which is FitFitch, one of the four great ratings agencies.
So that downgrade illustrates to the bond markets that France has insustainability in terms of its long-term debt.
That is fundamentally the reason why France is a paper tiger, one of the most military powerful of the European nations.
But coming back to why the swagger, Steve, now I will continue this after the break, but it's precisely for those reasons that they're incapable of doing anything without America because they think, I don't know why, but they think that they have President Trump lapped in to underwrite their security.
ben harnwell
If they didn't feel that, you wouldn't see the swagger.
unidentified
Yeah.
Hang on for a second.
I'll hold you to the break.
This is because of Lindsey Graham and these guys that run around in Europe, go to these conferences and come back here and get on Fox TV.
Lindsey Graham's now all for Bannon's Trump 28.
Why?
Because of what's happening in NATO and President Trump talking about winning the war in Ukraine.
This is how cunning the Lindsey Grahams are.
Anyway, short commercial break.
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