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Sept. 26, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4807: Indictment Of Comey; FBI Agents Sent To The Capitol During J6
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steve bannon
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akayla gardner
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alicia menendez
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jake tapper
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alicia menendez
The Trump Justice Department has indicted former FBI Director James Comey on two counts.
unidentified
The first count, obstruction, the second, false statements.
Two sources telling MSNBC that a grand jury rejected a third count.
That count's still unknown.
alicia menendez
Just moments ago, Donald Trump said this on Truth Social, quote, justice in America, one of the worst human beings this country has ever been exposed to is James Comey, the former corrupt head of the FBI.
unidentified
Today he was indicted by a grand jury on two felony counts for various illegal and unlawful acts.
He has been so bad for our country for so long that is now at the beginning of being held responsible for his crimes against our nation.
Make America great again.
My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way.
We will not live on our knees, and you shouldn't either.
Somebody that I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool of a tyrant, and she's right.
But I'm not afraid, and I hope you're not either.
I hope instead you are engaged, you are paying attention, and you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does.
My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and I'm innocent.
So let's have a trial and keep the faith.
As the person that reported out, how significant is this moment?
I'll use the words, Chris, that prosecutors and federal investigators are saying to me tonight, which is simply chilling.
Chilling because a seasoned prosecutor who was appointed by the Trump administration, chosen by Donald Trump and his allies, looked at the facts in this case and said there wasn't a sufficient reasonable basis to bring it and was resisting bringing it, was pressured to resign or be forced out, thrown out on the curb, and he chose to resign.
Days later, a person with no prosecutorial experience is the U.S. attorney, and these charges are brought.
daniel koh
Chris, for the past two weeks, we have been gaslighted by BAGA, saying that we're too extreme, that our language is too extreme, that you can't use this kind of language.
unidentified
Well, if you don't want us to use extreme language, you should not do extreme stuff.
If you don't want us to call Donald Trump an authoritarian, he should not act like an authoritarian.
And the reality is today, it's ironic that Erdogan was in the Oval Office with the president because Erdogan in Turkey did exactly the same thing that Donald Trump is now doing.
daniel koh
People who investigated him, he prosecuted.
This is completely un-American, and we should all be deeply horrified by what happened today.
unidentified
I want to talk about a truly inspirational public figure named Taylor Swift.
Of course, I watched her podcast interview with the Kelsey brothers.
Of course, I watched the whole thing, although on YouTube, Patrice and I got kicked off for the last 15 minutes and finished it on her phone.
But I watched it.
You see, Taylor Swift and I go way back.
I went to my first concert of hers 15 years ago.
I've been to a second, and I have helped financially support the attendance of a lot of family members at others.
I'm in a family's Swifty group chat.
I know all her music, and I listen to it in my headphones when I cut the grass.
So, yes, I have a favorite of hers, although honestly, for me, it's a tie between All Too Well, 10-Minute Version, and Exile, featuring Bonnie Ver.
Taylor Swift has grown up with my family and provided us a soundtrack, really, as we've grown ourselves and learned and adapted and dealt with adversity and celebration.
She had songs for all of it.
I suspect that's something that millions of Americans have also experienced in their families.
I'm not surprised about the president, but I am still surprised about everyone else.
What about you?
Unfortunately, Simone, I am not surprised by much of anything.
If anything, I am, you know, I feel like they got a really fast start.
They sort of slowed down, and now in the last few weeks, they've really picked up steam again.
And so I'm not surprised by this.
reed galen
We saw that they raided Bolton's house just a few weeks ago.
unidentified
Now they've got Comey.
As Comey mentioned, Chris Krebs, Miles Taylor, people that they have been targeting for a long, long time.
There are going to be more of them.
reed galen
This is now part of it where they're trying to clean out the people they don't like to scare everybody else.
unidentified
And as somebody said, as you mentioned, this is exactly part of the process.
And let me just talk about the process too.
That is part of the punishment.
Now, Comey is a longtime law enforcement officer, a longtime lawyer.
reed galen
For a lot of people, this is going to put them into significant amounts of debt in legal bills.
There are some incredible attorneys out there trying to protect folks that do this stuff.
unidentified
But, you know, now you've been before, you know, your case has been before a grand jury.
reed galen
You've got to have a lawyer, a litigator, right?
unidentified
Litigators are very, very expensive, especially, I assume, in a federal criminal trial.
And now you've got to go before a judge.
You've got to be arraigned, all those other things.
I hope that the judge in this case, whoever draws the case, will dismiss these charges if they believe them to be egregious.
But I think we should see that Comey as the top of the pyramid, certainly not the bottom.
Like a lot of you, I struggle with how to stand up to bullies without letting their meanness infect me and change me.
You may have seen that the governor of California has been generating a lot of attention lately by posting on social media in a satirical way where he mocks Donald Trump and his all-caps megalomania and his absurdity.
james comey
And I find it very funny, hilarious, even sometimes.
unidentified
But I got to be honest, it also leaves me with a strange feeling at times because I don't want us to become like Trump and his followers.
There are far more decent, honest, kind people in America than there are mean jerks.
This is really a reminder of how much retribution and revenge has been a driving factor in the president's presidency, not only in his campaign where he really promised to go after his enemies, but even after he won, he continues to pursue this relentlessly.
And you laid out that timeline of him posting that true social directly to Pam Bondi and later telling reporters that he wanted her to act quickly.
akayla gardner
He's made this very clear that he wanted an urgency here.
unidentified
And that is something that potentially could come back to bite the prosecutors in this case, is his statement to this effect.
And this is really a break for a president that we have seen for decades now, but the White House has not been involved in Justice Department actions.
And that clearly seems to be not the case tonight.
We can't stop people from being jerks.
james comey
What we can do is stop it from hurting us, from changing us.
unidentified
At my second Taylor Swift concert in Hartford, Connecticut, 14 years ago this summer, she sang a song about this topic, asking, why you got to be so mean?
And she spoke directly to the nasty people.
I bet you got pushed around.
Somebody made you cold.
But the cycle ends right now because you can't leave me down that road.
You'll be glad I didn't sing that.
That's right.
Because down that road is unhappiness.
Nobody should have that power over us.
Thank you, Taylor Swift.
Keep the faith.
The increasingly autocratic, increasingly Entirely presidentially driven a policy agenda that Donald Trump is putting forward, I think, on the questions of the Kimmel story is of a peace with the Comey story, the weaponization of the Department of Justice, the politicization of that, and all of the things you saw in the wake of Charlie Kirk's tragic,
undeniably tragic murder when you saw JD Vance and others.
These things have not gone away, saying that the administration is going to war with what they call the radical left and plans to weaponize government in all kinds of ways against what JD Vance has talked about, against left-wing, what they call left-wing NGOs that they're now starting to talk about as if they were sponsors of domestic terror.
It is a, where are we?
john heilemann
We are in a dark place, Joe.
unidentified
And I take some comfort in the fact that Jimmy Kimmel got back on the air and gave us that momentary reprieve.
But I don't think that their campaign against broadcasters and free speech is over, not by a long shot.
And it feels this very, very sobering week at the end of a string of very, very sobering weeks since this administration got underway back in January, eight months ago.
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
steve bannon
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
unidentified
Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
steve bannon
It's going to happen.
unidentified
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
It's Friday, 26th, September in the year of our Lord 2025.
The President of the United States is leaving to head up to the Brighter Cup.
Just had a gag where we're going to play that momentarily.
John Solomon joins us with a massive scoop of big breaking news.
But I have to say, as I bring John Solomon on, not only is Comey a bad cop, he's a weirdo.
I want to give a hat tip to the Denver crew, a Real America's Voice, and my own incredible production team here in the war room for intercutting his Taylor Swift, his Taylor Swift video from, I guess, two weeks ago with his very emotional plea last night.
And that's from a grown-ass man, you know, about Taylor Swift.
And you couldn't tell the difference in the two.
John Solomon, first your thoughts on Comey.
steve bannon
I know you know this situation very well.
unidentified
Then I want to get to your scoop, sir.
Well, listen, the truth of the matter is the people that say that James Comey is lying is his inner circle team.
It was Andy McCabe who said it first.
It was James Baker that affirmed it in an interview with the Postal Inspection Service that we broke on your show a few weeks ago.
And in that case, remember what James Baker said to the government.
john solomon
He said that James Comey authorized me to leak classified information to the news media to his chief of staff, James Rabicke.
And then we don't know yet what Rubicki's account is, but I suspect those three men are going to be the main state witnesses against James Comey.
It's not going to be a MAGA lawyer.
unidentified
It's not going to be a MAGA talk show host.
It's going to be his own inner circle saying, yeah, he authorized us to leak.
And yeah, he lied to Congress.
So James Comey is going to face justice probably at the expense of his own inner circle, who couldn't lie when confronted about what he had done with the leaking to the media.
The Taylor Swift thing, I have a little bit different take.
john solomon
I do find it extremely weird to have an FBI director talking about being a Swifty, but hey, everyone's entitled to their music.
But I think there's something more cunning going on.
unidentified
I think you have to always calculate James Comey as being a calculating guy.
john solomon
He's going to need to raise a lot of money for his legal defense fund.
unidentified
He's about to undergo a really significant legal defense expense.
I think he was setting up millennials and others to say, see me as a victim.
I'm like one of you guys, and he doesn't like Taylor Swift.
I think he's looking to hit that generation, the millennial generation, for donations for a legal defense fund down the road.
That may have been a calculated decision.
john solomon
He knew what was coming over the horizon, and he knows he's going to have to raise some money for his defense.
unidentified
And I think there's something a little bit more calculating in that than just being flat out weird.
You see, John Solomon, all those years in the Imperial Capitol being the top investigative reporter, that's the kind of insight.
Brilliant.
John.
Before we get to your scoop, before we get your scoop, I want updates on Bolton because there's a whole wave of stuff that is happening now and coming to the forefront.
The media said yesterday Bolton looks like his office had secret or top secret documents.
Yeah, that's right.
There's a search warrant return.
john solomon
In his office, they found a secret and confidential classified information, including information on WMD, which is very sensitive.
unidentified
Anything we know about WMD around the world is a very sensitive piece of information.
And so this is no different now than the precedent sent two decades ago when Sandy Berger, the former National Security Advisor for Bill Clinton, in a story I broke when I was at the Associated Press, tried to secret classified documents out of the archives, stick them in his socks and his pants and try to walk out with him.
And he got indicted.
john solomon
There is a precedent for this.
unidentified
You are the National Security Advisor.
You know you have no right to take classified documents with you.
The fact that they found those documents in his office and they found earlier information in his email accounts related to the book suggests that he did something knowingly and willfully.
And there is, this isn't a retribution.
This is a precedent that has been kept for a long time.
When you're the national security advisor, you walk off with classified information.
You're going to get prosecuted.
Just ask Sandy Berger.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
John Solomon broke a very big story overnight, and the President of the United States has put it up on True Social.
steve bannon
This implicates the institution of the FBI and the senior personnel running it post James Comey.
unidentified
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John Solomon.
John, the story you broke is massive for what it discusses and then also massive for how you learned out about it and what's been been hidden for years.
steve bannon
Just take us from the top and walk through, sir.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, first, let me just say something about the culture of the FBI.
For 35 years, I've covered it here in Washington.
john solomon
And in every controversy of the past, it has a history of covering things up.
unidentified
The FBI lab scandal, 9-11, Oklahoma City, all stories that I broke Russia collusion.
And over the years, I have spent most of my time trying to tell the American people what the FBI did in spite of the FBI not cooperating.
Under Kash Patel, he has broken that cycle.
He is now putting out the evidence that allowed prosecutors to seek that indictment against James Comey.
That is unlike anything I've seen in my 35 years covering the FBI.
And unlike that, he's sending to Congress the document that fire directors and their teams kept from Congress.
And today, we were able to get our hands on one of those documents.
And what it shows is it answers the question that Chris Wray would never answer to Congress when he was asked.
john solomon
He would not tell how many agents were sent to the Capitol once the violence started there and the riot began.
unidentified
We got that answer because they did an after-action report at the FBI.
Kash Patel recently found that after-action report, and it is damning.
There were 275 FBI agents, most in plain clothes, without any riot gear or protection, dispatched to the Capitol that day.
The reason there was an after-action review is that a lot of those agents felt like they were put in harm's way.
john solomon
They didn't have gear.
unidentified
They didn't have a way to identify themselves to the Capitol police that they were cops.
If they had to draw their gun, they could have had a friendly fire incident.
And so that's an important fact.
It's something that Congress needed for oversight, and Chris Ray's FBI kept it from it.
john solomon
But the more important issue, long term, to all my colleagues in the FBI who have tried to dispute that the FBI has a political bias problem, this episode, this review, ended up exposing more than the fact that an incompetent FBI sent a lot of FBI agents to the Hill without gear and protections and then didn't want to admit that to Congress.
unidentified
It uncorked a decade of frustration among scores of FBI agents in the Washington field office that their agency had become clearly politically biased.
Those aren't my words.
Those are their words.
john solomon
The after-action review resulted in hundreds of statements by FBI agents saying our agency is a mess.
It is a joke.
unidentified
It treats conservatives different than liberals.
It is woke.
It is more concerned about what face mask you wear than what criminal you kept.
It uncorked something.
And for that reason, Congress was most likely not given this document because it would have affirmed what Jim Jordan and what Devin Nunes and what Barry Lautermilk and all the people who've been investigating have been saying the FBI has a political bias problem.
Chris Ray was asked this question.
He's like, ah, no, that's a political talking point.
john solomon
He would have known at the moment he gave that answer in 2023 that this after-action report raised a serious amount of concern if he didn't know he wasn't in charge of his agency, because this was a very important document, the learnings and the failures of January 6th.
unidentified
This document is significant, not just for giving us the answer we were long denied on how many agents responded.
How did they respond?
But it's more important that it is an affirmation from the frontline agents of the FBI that they had recognized their agency had become politically corrupted, politically biased, politically incompetent.
And they were crying for help in 2021.
And that help was kept from them until Donald Trump won the election and Kash Patel was installed.
On the 275, Steve, I want to give you one possible legal implication.
Many of those agents who responded were in the WFO, and they most likely, afterwards, participated in the prosecutions of J6 defendants.
They probably executed affidavits in court cases.
It is incumbent upon FBI agents to self-disclose under the Brady and Giglio standards.
You got to play fair by the rule standards for FBI agents.
john solomon
If you were a witness to a crime, that you disclose that.
unidentified
Otherwise, what you say is, I looked at this video footage and I looked at this evidence after it occurred, and this is what I found.
john solomon
But if you don't describe the fact that you might have been at the scene and witnessed some of this, you may have engaged in a Giglio and Bradyo violation.
unidentified
We don't know yet the names of the agents, but given that there are 275 of them, one of the exercises that Congress could do right now is to find out how many of those agents subsequently filed affidavits and did not disclose they were eyewitnesses, potential victims at the Capitol.
That could result in a lot of appellate issues.
It may also provide new fodder to defend President Trump's decision to pardon a lot of those defendants.
john solomon
This may have been a cheating scandal in the court system.
unidentified
So we don't know yet.
But from my experience doing Brady and Giglio issues as a reporter, there is a red flag blinking here today.
One of the things when I first talked to you when you had this story and you were doing your additional reporting to release it, the thing that shocked you was the amount of anguish, vitriol that agents had about the way the department was being run, the way they thought it was overly politicized.
It was against conservatives, really quite blunt statements.
Don't we have an obstruction of justice?
I mean, the oversight committee was trying to do oversight.
They knew they had a ticking time bomb at the FBI.
steve bannon
We had not just J6, you had the grandmothers praying the rosary.
unidentified
You had the people arrested for praying the rosary.
You had the Catholics.
You had all these different MAGA folks rounded up by the FBI.
steve bannon
Is there legal, does the issues that the agents had with the way the department was being run?
unidentified
Did Chris Ray obstruct justice by suppressing this report?
It's kind of shocking that nine months into Kash Patel's, or President Trump, Cash came in later, his reign at the FBI.
We're now just getting this.
Isn't this, doesn't this rise to the level of at least an investigation on obstruction of justice?
Absolutely.
There's no doubt about it.
john solomon
Every testimony given by an FBI officer, including Ray himself, has to be evaluated.
unidentified
Every subpoena that was issued has to be reviewed to determine whether the documents that we're now setting forth and making public in our stories and that Kash Patel is turning over to Congress that they, whether they were responsive and they failed to turn them over.
john solomon
We were going through a four-year debate.
unidentified
The FBI was pursuing Donald Trump criminal cases, classified documents all the way to January 6th.
We are having a debate that the FBI might have become politicized, and the FBI brass looked at you and me and the Congress cameras and said, we don't have a problem.
john solomon
That is a MAGA talking point.
unidentified
That was not true.
john solomon
Your own agents were crying aloud.
unidentified
And listen, I've been, like I said, I've covered the FBI for 35 years.
john solomon
The natural instinct of FBI agents is to toe the thin blue line.
unidentified
That even if your agency made a mistake, we protect the agency.
For the agents to uncork with this level of bluntness, calling the WFO a messed up place, its most prestigious office, the Washington Field Office, say using the words political bias, corruption.
These are words that agents almost never utter about their agency.
john solomon
They always tow that line.
unidentified
This had been boiling since the Comey era and the January 6th event created a moment where they spoke out and then their leadership looked in the eye of Congress, looked in the IU and me and said, ah, that's a MAGA talking point.
john solomon
It's not true.
unidentified
It turns out their own agents have authenticated it.
I think every subpoena that's been issued, if Congress really cares about being an oversight agency, every testimony that's been given should be gone through with a fine-tooth comb.
And anything that's not responsive, people need to be held accountable.
They withheld this from specific requests.
john solomon
Someone or many people should be held accountable.
unidentified
John, I know you got a bounce.
steve bannon
Only got a couple of minutes, but I know the president thinks very highly of your reporting and your sense of these institutions.
I keep saying we have to have a maximum strategy, seize the institutions and have a sense of urgency.
unidentified
It is quite evident to me that Pam and Todd and all the team over there and Cash and Dan at the FBI and DOJ have a very tenuous grasp on these institutions because they're so massive and they've been corrupt and they have a certain operating style that they've had now really since the 50s for the FBI, the Kennedy assassination and DOJ since post-Watergate.
Don't we need an independent group of advisors around President Trump?
steve bannon
Because Cash and Pam are too close to it.
unidentified
They're trying to run it every day and trying to just tread water.
Don't we need a fundamental rethink?
And by the way, I'd like to hold you for a few minutes on the other side of this.
Don't we need a fundamental group of senior people?
I tell you what, I want you to answer the other side.
But the question is, think about we need to restructure.
It's the deep state, but also we have an institutional problem.
You can see in this kind of at the last second, we had to kind of get this done because the institutional pushback on Comey, which is quite evident, what he did, didn't want to do it.
And if they didn't want to do it, it's not going to happen.
You saw this in the first term.
steve bannon
In the second term, when President Trump basically sends a missive to Pam Bondi publicly, all of a sudden we start to get some action.
But if you look at the entire apparatus, we have a very tenuous grip on it.
unidentified
We have a very tenuous grip on the FBI, even though Bongino and Cash, I think, are doing a terrific job.
Anyway, think about that, John.
steve bannon
I need an answer from the great John Solomon on the other side.
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John Solomon, if we don't do this, brother, on Trump's watch, the country is going to be in extremis.
And you can tell by these bad actors.
So tell me what your solution is.
What would you tell him?
All right.
So I'll tell you what my reporting is first.
The FBI has been fully taken over.
john solomon
I cash to tell Dan Bongino.
unidentified
There are tens of thousands of pages of evidence that have been transmitted to the Justice Department.
john solomon
It has overwhelmed the Justice Department.
unidentified
There are more than 150 requests for subpoenas that have gone to various U.S. attorneys' office from the FBI.
The FBI has had a complete takeover.
john solomon
There has been an NMA.
There are still people that need to be jettisoned.
unidentified
They will over time.
Some of the strategies that Cash and Dan have had there have been to take people who were the bad actors who are very close to pensions and say, hey, you're not going to get your pensions.
You're going to get fired if you don't tell me exactly what the hell went on here the last 10 years.
They've been able to squeeze out secrets from the former insiders of the Comey Ray world.
But we have a major problem.
The speed at which the FBI is producing the evidence is overwhelming a Justice Department that is grossly understaffed.
And it has resulted in some of those silly moments.
Like Pam goes out and says something about Epstein that's not true.
But the FBI is in a good shape.
john solomon
It still needs a long-term redirection.
unidentified
And that's where, as Devin Nunes has proposed, a blue ribbon commission of experts, including people I think they ought to put on this blue ribbon commission, people who are wrongly pursued, victims of the FBI have passed as part of the Blue Ribbon Commission, because there's no better perspective on how to fix something than somebody that was wronged by the institution.
That's the long-term solution.
john solomon
But we have a short-term problem.
unidentified
You saw this play out in the last few days with the Comey indictment.
The Comey evidence was over the Justice Department for months.
john solomon
The Justice Department simply is not able to keep up with the flow of evidence coming in from the FBI.
The president needs to get more lawyers, more resources there, get more U.S. attorneys.
unidentified
Listen, you've got Stanley Woodward, who's a really major, important player in the justice.
He's still not confirmed.
We're eight months into the presidency, and someone at that level is not confirmed.
john solomon
The Justice Department is overwhelmed by the evidence that the FBI is turning over.
unidentified
It's overwhelmed by the subpoenas.
It needs to be resourced so that we don't run the clock on statute of limitations.
john solomon
After that's fixed, that's a short-term fix.
unidentified
Then I think a blue ribbon commission to re-examine the CIA and the intelligence community, the ODNI, the FBI, and the Justice Department, because it was one big machinery that ruined this country the last 10 years.
And as soon as Donald Trump's gone, it will go back to ruining this country unless its compass is radically reset.
The smartest people I talk to think a blue ribbon commission, like we had after 9-11 or during the 1970s, the Church Commission, that that's the way to go.
And I'm sure we can find the political will to get that done.
john solomon
But right now, there's a bigger crisis.
There are strong, strong criminal cases that the FBI has dug up that are not in a position to be prosecuted because the Justice Department is grossly short of resources right now.
unidentified
We've got to solve that, or we're going to be damn frustrated a year from now when we see people walk who could have been prosecuted.
Okay.
Is that because let's leave aside the unacceptable not going on a real recess and having recess appointments to break this law jam, which is outrageous?
Let me put a pin on that.
Is the rest of the problem is that we just don't have enough talented people who kind of like to cut up President Trump's jib and feel comfortable in a MA administration?
Or is it more at the top?
We just haven't processed enough people through.
Do we have a manpower problem of talent or do we have a log jam of just getting people through and getting them signed up?
I think Pam Bondi should go to the president.
john solomon
This is a leadership issue.
unidentified
There's always enough people.
the conservative side or skilled there are prosecutors he's not going out either Let's try to reboot him.
We're going to try to reboot down John Solomon.
I'll tell you what, let's go ahead and play the, while we reboot, let's go ahead and play the gaggle right now.
steve bannon
We got Rudy on deck.
Let's go and play the gaggle.
unidentified
with the gaggle.
So I'm going to go for a little while to represent the United States at the Ryder Cup, which is very exciting.
And we'll be watching that.
This is Kai, by the way, in case you didn't know.
How are we?
And we'll be watching the results.
I think we have maybe a deal on Gaza, very close to a deal on Gaza.
Hey, you know, Peter.
It's looking like we have a deal on Gaza.
And we'll get the hostages back.
It's going to be a deal that will end the war.
It's going to be a deal which is going to be peace.
I think we have a deal.
donald j trump
That'll be number eight, Peter.
unidentified
Mr. President Tommy, now that Jim Tommy has been indicted, who is the next president of the late president?
It's not a list, but I think there'll be others.
I mean, they're corrupt.
These were corrupt, radical-left Democrats.
They told me essentially he was worse than the Democrats.
I would say the Democrats are better than Tomy.
Oh, there'll be others.
Look, it was, that's my opinion.
They weaponized the Justice Department like nobody in history.
What they've done is terrible.
And so I would, I hope they're, frankly, I hope they're others because you can't let this happen to a country.
Will you avoid a permanent surrender for even President and never try to?
Well, we'll see, but it's a pretty easy case because, look, he lied.
You saw my truth today.
He lied.
donald j trump
It was, yes, he didn't say, well, in my opinion, he didn't do a lot of things that maybe he shouldn't, but I don't think he should because he lied.
unidentified
That was a very important question that he was there.
And he wanted to be specific.
But he didn't.
The only thing that happened to him, he didn't think he'd get caught.
That great answer that he gave.
donald j trump
That was a very important answer.
unidentified
And it was very, for him, it was a very good answer if he didn't get caught.
But he got caught lying to Congress.
That's what they tried to do, right?
They did it with me for four years.
They went after me.
They went after me for four years, and that doesn't include the four great years that we had in the White House.
So when I ran it in 2016, when we won, it began before I got to office.
You know that.
Wait a minute.
Before I came to office, I started hearing rumors about Russia.
I said, what the hell do I have to do with Russia?
Nothing.
And then it got worse and worse.
And some of the fakers, not you, but some of the fake news picked it up and they loved it.
And we went through a long time with that.
And despite that, we had a great first term.
That's how it went.
Is this more about justice or is it about revenge?
It's about justice, Phil.
It's not revenge.
It's about revenge.
It's also about the fact that you can't let this go on.
They are sick, radical left people, and they can't get away with it.
And Tomy, Tomy was one of the people.
He wasn't the biggest, but he's a nerd cop.
He's always going to date a cop.
Everybody knew it.
And it's, you know, as far as the case is concerned, he gave an answer.
It was a strong answer.
donald j trump
He then verified it a couple of times because that was a very important answer.
unidentified
If he would have equivocated, he would have been like a little bit less sure.
That would have been very bad for him.
donald j trump
So he gave an answer.
unidentified
The only problem is for him, he didn't think it because.
And he got caught, dude.
He lied a lot.
But this was a very important thing.
He could have said, well, maybe, or I don't remember.
He didn't say that.
He gave a very specific answer.
And then he verified it numerous times.
And he got caught.
The problem that Tomy has is he got caught lying.
And he was very strong.
It's not like, well, maybe, or I don't remember.
He gave a very specific answer because it was a very powerful question, a very important question.
And when he gave the answer, the only problem is he got caught.
We're going to see if the radical left Democrats want to shut it down.
And as up to that, we have a great economy going.
donald j trump
You saw the numbers yesterday.
unidentified
They're fantastic.
The economy's doing well.
Prices are down.
We have virtually no inflation.
donald j trump
Everything's going good.
unidentified
We're respected by every nation in the world.
And you know what happens?
The Democrats want to shut it down.
They want to shut it down because they want to give Disney, ultimately, trillions of dollars to illegal migrants, people that came into our country illegally.
Some of those people are criminals, but they came into our country illegally.
And they want to give them the agenda over years, trillions of dollars.
And our people aren't going to stand for it.
They also want to have open borders.
They want to have men and women sport.
They want to have transgender for everybody.
These people are crazy, the Democrats.
So if it has to be shut down, it'll have to shut down.
but they're the ones in the jetty John Solomon continues with us President right there, a lot of news dealing with Gaza.
We'll get to all of that.
John Solomon, can you finish your thought, please, for the audience?
Listen, I think the first issue for the Justice Department is a leadership issue.
You got to go and take whatever it takes to get from the White House or other places a group of people who can come in and clear the log jam and get this done.
john solomon
This starts with leadership.
unidentified
I don't doubt Pam's commitment to getting to the bottom of this stuff.
john solomon
I think they're just so overwhelmed right now for what the FBI is turned over.
unidentified
They can't keep up with it.
And that's going to deserve the entire country if they don't fix it.
So you fix that, Steve.
And then when this evidence is out in the public and people can see the magnitude of what was kept from us, then you go get a blue ribbon commission and you rewire this entire system before the end of the Trump presidency.
john solomon
Much like we rewired the Intel community after 9-11.
unidentified
We did a lot of good after 9-11 in fighting terrorism.
Of course, what we ended up creating was a deep state.
We didn't solve that problem.
We made that problem worse.
john solomon
We have to fix that.
unidentified
A blue ribbon commission is what most of my experts tell me is the right way to go.
John Solomon, where do they go to get your reporting, just the news, the show, social media, all of it?
Did we lose that?
I guess we lost John Solomon again.
Okay.
I want to talk about real quick, I got the mayor coming up.
There's no better person, there's no better person to look at and talk to about this terrorism bill and also Comey and all of it than America's mayor.
We're going to go to Ruli Juliana after a short commercial break.
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So, right there in the gaggle, President Trump said that more indictments are likely coming against corrupt deep state officials after Comey and will include potentially other high-ranking politicians, America's mayor, Rudy Giuliani, and I think the greatest prosecutor we've had in this country's history.
Rudy, what say you, sir?
Well, I think it's obvious, Steve.
The indictment is a giveaway in the history of indictments.
I think I know them pretty well.
You see how short it is?
So, you might think as a defendant, I get a little short indictment like that, that's terrific.
That's if he committed one crime once.
rudy giuliani
That is a preface, not even an introduction, to the major War and Peace novel that the indictment will become.
unidentified
They're beginning with him, maybe because of the time pressure.
I mean, she can't be immune to the fact that there's pressure on her.
I might think it's unfair because I'm a prosecutor and I don't know what good it is to push prosecutors, but this definitely is a result of the president pushing her a little.
And it's a good indictment.
Don't get me wrong.
It's a good case, but it's rather small in the big scheme of things.
You've got a case that could be three times as broad as the original Biden RICO case that I outlined in my book.
It could be that case plus two others, all in one RICO case.
Think of RICO as a novel with seven or eight chapters.
Each chapter, a different crime, different predicates, and a different set of penalties.
Plus, here's the benefit of RICO, Steve.
rudy giuliani
You can take the money away.
unidentified
So if you want to, if you want to defuse some of these, let's say, oh, hypothetically, let's say that people were funding Antifa Black Lives Matter to do those riots.
You could bankrupt those operations.
You could take their present accounts, and then you could spend the next 10 years tracing all their accounts and taking everything else.
Case in point, the Teamsters.
Joda Geneva, your friend, and I did that to the Teamsters.
We spent 10 years, went on after me, after him, and we took all their money out of the central state's pension fund, which took all their money out of Las Vegas, which took all their money away from them, which is why they're a pathetic, silly group of old men now and wannabes.
You could do that to the criminal money of the Democrat Party.
You could find it all and get rid of it because it was all being contributed to illegally trying to stop Trump and then trying to lawfully, unlawfully remove a lawfully elected president, which gets about as close to treason as you can get.
Now, do I have to name the people involved in that?
I mean, I have it written down.
I mean, that's the whole group.
That's Obama.
That's Hillary.
That's, of course, Biden.
That's the two bums over the two bums in intelligence.
So hang on.
Hang on.
Hang on.
I want to bifurcate.
I'm going to get to the terrorism thing and the source and all that after the break.
You're going to stick around with me.
steve bannon
I want to tell you.
unidentified
I just want to make sure we're clear on this.
steve bannon
You're saying that the little two-page indictment on the lying to Congress and the obstruction of justice is just the appetizer when it even comes to Comey.
But you're saying more things are going to come on Comey.
Are you also anticipating when President Trump said that statement right there that you're going to have more indictments and a broader conspiracy investigation about Russia Gate, about trying to remove him as president, about trying to destroy his presidency in the first term?
unidentified
Do you think that's what Trump's talking about?
Yes.
I'm not exactly sure if the president has envisioned everything that he's talking about.
After all, the president's not a lawyer and he doesn't know the tools that are available to them.
rudy giuliani
The president really, the president's objective isn't even so much prosecution.
unidentified
It's bringing it to a public daylight and bringing it to account.
So simple, so it doesn't happen again.
This is not a question of vengeance.
This is a question of justice and deterrence.
And if he didn't do it, he wouldn't be a president.
If he had nothing to do with this, but this was on his plate, he would have to do the same thing.
Otherwise, he'd be a lousy president, and we'd have this all happen again.
The only thing that's going to stop these people, because they are thoroughgoing criminals, very similar to the mafia people I prosecuted, very similar to the terrorists I prosecuted, and certainly just like the corrupt politicians I prosecuted.
They'll do this forever.
We can be in power for three terms.
rudy giuliani
They'll come back and do it again.
unidentified
The Democratic Party has been crooked.
I don't know.
The two things they embraced originally was slavery and being crooks.
That's what the party's about.
Its history is boss tweed and slavery.
Why someone wants to belong to it and not change its name at least, I have no idea.
Is the potential of these broader things, because last night the historical reaction by people like Andrew Weissman and others, McCabe and these guys, because it's not just about Comey.
steve bannon
They understand what's coming.
They understand what their crimes are, and they understand where this is going, sir.
unidentified
Well, the one thing I don't see yet, but I don't know the inside of it.
I want to see the one really great prosecutor.
What I mean by a great prosecutor is the one who can flip people.
People think of a great prosecutor as a great trial lawyer, a great investigator.
Truly, that's all true.
Here's the skill that you have if you're a great prosecutor.
This is why I made so many cases.
This is going to sound terribly, terribly boastful, but I was the, as the best trial lawyer in the U.S. Attorney's Office, I won every case.
So even when I was the U.S. Attorney, I would go to court and try cases.
I was the last U.S. attorney to try cases in court.
Second, I was skilled at turning people.
I was taught by the best, and I turned the mafia people, but I turned a lot of other people.
I turned Russian spies.
I turned German Nazis.
What I mean by that is you'll see a couple of, you'll see about four, five, six indictments.
I don't think Comey, although you try everybody.
You hit somebody and then you try to flip them.
They were very unsuccessful in that, the Biden criminals.
rudy giuliani
You know why?
unidentified
Because the people were telling the truth.
Flipping works when you got real criminals.
People that are pretty innocent.
Some of them will lie for you, but some of them are honorable enough not to.
Hang on for one second.
We're going to take a short break.
steve bannon
The president is landing in Long Island.
unidentified
He's going to the Ryder Cup.
And boy, do we need the president's spirit on the American side for the Ryder Cup.
And the greatest mayor in New York City and one of the greatest prosecutors this nation's ever had.
Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
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