Sept. 24, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're just not going to free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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| Stephen K. Mass. | ||
| It's Tuesday, 23 September in the year of our Lord 2025, but I can't think of a better way to end uh really a couple of historic days, starting with uh Charlie Kirk's the first MAGA state funeral on Sunday, particularly with President Trump's um what I would say is fiery remarks, coupled with what happened yesterday in the Roosevelt room, which was nothing short of historic. | ||
| Then on top of that, the signing of the Antifa terrorist designation, and then President Trump today going into the lines then in a complete and total throwdown against the globalists. | ||
| It was a the last three days have had a different intensity, even in the most intense term in American presidential history. | ||
| That's not me saying that. | ||
| That's Jim Vanderhey and Mike Allen, the two guardians of the conventional wisdom in Washington, D.C., the Imperial Capitol, the founders of Politico, the founders of Axios, and the now still the chief editors of Axios. | ||
| They're brilliant piece today about the Trump uh presidency. | ||
| I got it up on Getter. | ||
| It's breathtaking. | ||
| Um the fact that Jim Vanderhey says flat out, there has never been more accomplished in any first year of any presidency in the history of the United States of America, including FDR. | ||
| Pretty big from uh a liberal progressive like Jim Vanderhey, just flat out. | ||
| One of the key architects of that uh dear friend and and and colleague is Dr. Peter Navarro in this amazing book that you have to read because Hakeem Jeffries told you folks yesterday, because they're being forced into a corner. | ||
| They got it, they have to say this, they're gonna have to do it. | ||
| He said, Hey, look, we're taking notes, and all of you guys are going to prison as soon as we take over the house and then win the White House. | ||
| So Peter uh Peter Navarro's book, uh I went to prison, so you don't have to. | ||
| Believe me when I say this. | ||
| They are coming for you. | ||
| Okay, they're using Trump and Navarro and Bannon and uh and others, Alex Jones and others, as just guys getting in the way. | ||
| They're coming for you as they came for Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Peter, I want to start off. | ||
| I've I I always wanted to do an hour, and we were gonna do it up live, but uh the assassination of Charlie Kirk, it was uh in remembrance of him. | ||
| We decided to delay that. | ||
| Um I I want to go, I want to start this off by talking uh when I say one of the most, I think important days in our movement, and one of the blackest moments in American history was your apprehension by the FBI at Reagan Airport. | ||
| I want to go through detail, including what happened to our Tabonnie, one of the finest women I I've met. | ||
| Um, because you're just not any person. | ||
| You have been the architect of President Trump's kind of trade and manufacturing policy. | ||
| You were brought into the campaign before he won the primary to actually add some heft and some and some focus and some some detail and some more substrate to President Trump's um economic plan to bring jobs back here to America. | ||
| Your entire adult life, and including with the administration, was about putting citizens of this country first, the country first and citizens first, and there's so many families out there today that uh oh not just to Donald Trump but to yourself. | ||
| And I want I want you to go through in detail and tell uh, and this is one of the reasons you gotta get the book, tell people What was in your mind? | ||
| What happened? | ||
| Reagan National Airport is one of the busy, not just busiest airports in the country, but it's so many prominent people, congressmen, senators, media people, prominent donors. | ||
| Go through that airport all day long. | ||
| The FBI did something to you to humiliate you and break you as a man, break you as a man. | ||
| And it shows your toughness and the fact that you can't be broken to this instant. | ||
| Talk to me about it. | ||
| Well, Steve, you and I, we didn't bend when they sent us to prison. | ||
| We didn't break. | ||
| That's that's who we are. | ||
| I went to prison so you won't have to. | ||
| It's it's a book about uh me and Bonnie, our prison diaries. | ||
| It's a forward uh by the great Steve Bannett, but the book's not about you and I. It's not about Bonnie, it's really about this unprecedented attempt to come after people, uh, put them in prison, kill them, bankrupt them. | ||
| And I went to prison so you won't have to, is really, I think, uh a manifestation of what I think must be the sixth stage of grief for Charlie Kirk. | ||
| You know, they always talk about the five stages of grief, but the sixth stage of grief, Steve, is accountability. | ||
| Because if they can come for me, if they can come for you, they can try to kill Donald Trump, if they can kill Charlie Kirk, if they can do all of that, bank try to bankrupt Mike Lindell, try to bankrupt Rudy Giuliani, take away the the law livelihood of John Eastman, Jeff Clark. | ||
| Uh everybody, Steve, that I was in the White House with has suffered in some way by that targeting, and we must hold them accountable. | ||
| And and I went to prison so you won't have to, it's a book about naming names. | ||
| I mean, we know who they are. | ||
| When I say they, we know exactly who they are. | ||
| In my case, it was uh all the members of Congress with a D beside them, same for you. | ||
| Um it was the Attorney General, Mary Garland, the U.S. attorney, Matt Graves, the prosecutors, John Crab, Elizabeth Lloyd, the judge, Almant Beta, the appeals court judges, Patricia Millette and Cornelia Pillard, and with Donald Trump, it was uh Comey, Clapper, Page struck, all these people we talked about. | ||
| But for me, uh you're absolutely right to start as the as I went to prison so you won't have to starts in the first chapter with the takedown, that faithful day at Reagan National Airport of my sweet fiance, Bonnie, I call her Pixie in the book. | ||
| Uh if you ever meet her, you'll know why. | ||
| Uh five armed FBI agents uh took us down in a gangway on what was one of the happiest couple hours of our lives before we got tried to board that plane. | ||
| And um I think people need to understand uh a couple of things. | ||
| First of all, this was a misdemeanor. | ||
| Second of all, white white collar crime, um Bonnie's about 4'11 with heels on, uh, 95 pounds. | ||
| I'm like 74 years old, 145 pounds, and they needed, they thought they needed five armed FBI agents to take us. | ||
| It was it was just a show. | ||
| And the funny part about it is Darkly comic, Steve, is that I actually at the time lived uh right across the street from the FBI as a field goal kicker back in the day. | ||
| I could literally kick a field goal from my balcony over to their porch. | ||
| That's how close they were. | ||
| So um they had the CNN cameras were ready. | ||
| They the CNN knew they were coming for me before I knew. | ||
| And um, leg irons, handcuffs, they put me in uh John Hinckley's own old cell and made a point of telling me that's who had been there, like there was some equivalence between standing up for the Constitution and trying to kill a president. | ||
| Uh and and so it went. | ||
| And what this, Steve, what I went to prison so you won't have to, is a book about how they try uh to take us out Using lawfare, the weaponization of government. | ||
| And they can come for anybody. | ||
| See, that's the message. | ||
| You watching this show, they they're coming for. | ||
| I'm not saying they can. | ||
| They're coming for you if they get back power. | ||
| I mean, these people, these people who would who would literally dance on the grave of Charlie Kirk while his body was still warm, is is the grossest kind of signal. | ||
| That signal, Steve, that's not noise. | ||
| That signal about who these people are and why we must protect ourselves. | ||
| And the only way to do it is hold them accountable. | ||
| And just, and we're not doing that, Steve. | ||
| We're not doing that at anywhere near the pace we should. | ||
| Now the other thing I should tell you, Steve, about that whole arrest, is there was a very important historical figure who took me down, a guy named Walter Giardina. | ||
| At the time I thought he was just another FBI agent, kind of unwilling to speak up against uh the tyranny of that agency at the time. | ||
| But it it turns out through the efforts of Chuck Grassley and FBI whistleblowers that this guy, Giardina, um, is actually uh I call him the forest gump of the FBI because he was literally involved in every single attempt to stop Donald Trump from getting elected or to throw him out of office once he was in. | ||
| And he was like, according to whistleblowers, the guy who read the Steel dossier, which was a fake document launching the Russia hoax, paid for by Hillary Clinton, indisputable fact. | ||
| He was one of the FBI agents that gave it its blessing, said it was true, and that set off crossfire hurricane, which was the Russia hoax hoax hoax hoax. | ||
| And then he was on the Mueller uh effort, the the witch hunt of the Mueller report. | ||
| And then he was on Operation Crimson River, which was a license to get the phone records and emails of of everybody in the administration. | ||
| And then he was on Ardic Frost, which was all the J6 takes down. | ||
| And he was a guy, Steve, that put me in leg irons, put me in handcuffs, knocked on my door at at dawn uh uh with with subpoenas, testified, I would argue reading the transcript, uh lied about uh what what things happened there, and Grassley called him out on that just recently. | ||
| So it's a it's a heck of a start to the book. | ||
| I went to prison, so you won't have to. | ||
| And look, this is an important hour for us, Steve, because we got to get to the real meat and bones of this. | ||
| Because you and I went to prison. | ||
| We you these they they call us the fascists, Steve. | ||
| How dare they? | ||
| These bastards put you and I in prison. | ||
| They tried to put Donald Trump in prison. | ||
| They tried to kill him twice, they killed Charlie Kirk, and they went after every single person I serve with in the White House who was a senior advisor. | ||
| And they call us fascists. | ||
| How dare they? | ||
| We're coming after you, folks. | ||
| We're coming after you. | ||
| But the difference is we're gonna do it legally, and we're gonna hold you accountable for what you've done, which is illegal. | ||
| And we're gonna do it permanent. | ||
| Yeah, and we're gonna do it permanent because you're not coming back to power. | ||
| That we can guarantee you. | ||
| Okay, I want to go back to something though. | ||
| Because people don't know being shackled and putting leg irons publicly. | ||
| It was a misdemeanor. | ||
| The FBI knew where you were, your lawyer, they knew they knew everything. | ||
| What they could have called you in and said, meet us at the office and we'll do this. | ||
| It's a misdemeanor. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's a misdemeanor. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They knew this. | ||
| They did this to break you and humiliate you. | ||
| That to me is such a when you get the book, you're so enraged by the opening of it, you just blow through this book and you get angrier and anger, and that's what we want you uh to be, because we're not going to make changes unless the people in the country understand this ain't about Navarro. | ||
| It's not about the president. | ||
| It's not about Steve Benn and Charlie Kirk uh or anybody else that they came after, Alex Jones, all of it, is about this audience, because they're coming for you. | ||
| They hate what we stand for. | ||
| Uh they hate this political movement, and they're not going to Stop, and that's why this book, I think, Peter, is a uh is a tremendous primer. | ||
| And I when as soon as I saw the the draft of what you did, I said, hey, we got to do this at war in books. | ||
| I I want to do this because I love this book so much. | ||
| Not just it's got the side story you and Bonnie, which is inextrically linked to the whole thing, but it is a warning to everyday Americans about what is coming and what you will be treated like, sir. | ||
| Well, uh one of the most unforgivable things that that they did um was to Bonnie. | ||
| Uh I I still remember when they're surrounding us with with their guns and things like that in the gangway, just holding her to me and telling her that everything was going to be fine. | ||
| And then watching her get perp walks, Steve, perp walk through the airport, um in front of in front of the world uh and it's like that's the thing. | ||
| It's like they the Jeff Clark, when they went into his house, right? | ||
| They they scared the hell out of his kids and his wife. | ||
| It's like no, you don't do that. | ||
| There's no humanity there. | ||
| And so what we must do is get people to understand uh that what we stand for is is very simple. | ||
| Like the MAGA is very simple, Steve. | ||
| It's an end-to-endless wars, it's it's fair trade, uh, and it's secure borders. | ||
| And and that's all we stand for. | ||
| And if we get to that, everybody in this country, or regardless of party, is better off. | ||
| And instead, what they do is declare war on us. | ||
| And so, like in the book, it starts out. | ||
| I, you know, the other the other thing that that was so interesting about uh my situation is that I never should have been put in prison before my appeal was heard. | ||
| It's just like they arrested me, put me in prison for a misdemeanor with 200 felons. | ||
| Um the normal case when you get convicted for a misdemeanor which has profound constitutional implications, which is a case that would will likely be overturned on appeal, is you let the person stay out. | ||
| And we're in a situation now, Steve, I don't know you know this, but the two judges who said I had to go to prison because there were no appealable issues on this on the appeals court, Patricia Millette, Cornelia Pillard, two appeals court judges right here in D.C. They have ruled by sending me to prison that I have no appealable issues. | ||
| Guess who's sitting on my appeals panel of the three judges? | ||
| Same two. | ||
| And so this is this is stuff. | ||
| And I went to prison, so you won't have to. | ||
| You find out things like hey, if they arrest you, if they if they charge you, you don't get to argue to the jury your defense. | ||
| My defense was hey, the president invoked executive privilege. | ||
| It was my duty to the Constitution to refuse that subpoena. | ||
| I had 50 years of Department of Justice policy behind me, and that friggin' judge, Ahmed Mada, ruled that I couldn't utter the two words executive privilege in that courtroom or be held in contempt and go to prison that way. | ||
| So they were gonna get me either way. | ||
| I mean, that's like the book itself. | ||
| I mean, look, it's Kafka, it's it's a little bit of catch-22 Joseph Heller, um, it's a lot of Stephen King. | ||
| And it's it's something that I hope that that the posse here will be a forced multiplier on. | ||
| You need to get this, get this and read it, but get a couple of them, get it in the hands of everybody you can. | ||
| But so we can we can hold these people accountable, Steve. | ||
| But but hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| I want you to go in because I want the audience to understand this. | ||
| About um, and this is what they use against President Trump. | ||
| Talk about the DC federal court system, because I think people out there in the rest of the country have no earth idea. | ||
| No, this is scared, it's so rigged. | ||
| I had no earthy idea. | ||
| I'm not a lawyer, I avoided going to law school. | ||
| Uh, you know, I use a lot of lawyers. | ||
| Retain them, I had no earthy idea. | ||
| People kept telling me about D.C., the federal court and the appellate court, the circuit court. | ||
| Uh it just kind of went in one ear and out the other. | ||
| Until I saw it, I go, holy mackerel. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| This is what to talk to him about. | ||
| This is why they chose to come there about President Trump. | ||
| Walk through the DC court of what the nation needs, what you show in the book and what the nation needs to know. | ||
| Sure, uh absolutely. | ||
| So the DC court is actually kind of interesting because it's often a stepping stone to the Supreme Court. | ||
| There's a number of justices who were in that court, either the district level or the appeals court. | ||
| It's all in the same same area and building. | ||
| And the problem we face uh around this country is that there's just a lot of uh what what uh you call politicians in black robes. | ||
| In other words, these are the good people who have somehow been anointed judges, and all they do is advance political agenda. | ||
| So this guy, this judge, his name's Amit Meida, and and he basically used me in the course of that trial uh as a way eventually to get he wants to be the first Indian American on the Supreme Court. | ||
| And the way he got seated, Steve, is interesting in and of itself. | ||
| He was a um bundler, you know, you need you of all people know what a bundler is, campaign bundler for Obama back in in 2008, and he parlayed that into a seat uh on on the court. | ||
| And and somehow the this fiction in America that somehow uh somebody who's like worked their way up the ladder, curried favor with a political party to get a judgeship suddenly puts on the black robe and abandons all politics and becomes this this all-wise person. | ||
| It's it's nonsense. | ||
| It's absolutely nonsense. | ||
| So I get in the I get in this courtroom, and it's like every ruling this guy made. | ||
| I there wasn't a single ruling that that he ruled in our favor. | ||
| And I had two very good lawyers writing very good motions. | ||
| We never got so I wanted to know, for example, why they prosecuted me and not Dan Scavino and Mark Meadows. | ||
| I mean, I'm glad they didn't, but but strip away everything. | ||
| We were charged with exactly the same alleged crime, refusing to testify. | ||
| It should have that that's it. | ||
| Okay, there's no there's no mitigating, they should have been charged, but they didn't. | ||
| I tried to get discovery to figure out why. | ||
| I tried to get discovery about how who ordered my leg iron's arrest, uh, how far up the chain it went. | ||
| Chris Ray over to I don't know, Matt Graves, maybe up to Merrick Garland. | ||
| We needed to know this to argue selective prosecution. | ||
| They wouldn't let us do that. | ||
| They wouldn't let some of our witnesses uh come in. | ||
| We we had somebody who and then uh the the worst part is this whole notion of they just ruled that I couldn't argue executive privilege. | ||
| That was my defense, but I couldn't argue it. | ||
| And we got the judge to hold what's called an evidentiary hearing, and he he I over the course of almost an hour I established on five different occasions the privilege had been invoked. | ||
| And then at the end of that, he goes, well, wasn't good enough. | ||
| And so by that, it's like I couldn't, I couldn't argue the case. | ||
| And then the jury, uh Steve, this is like crazy stuff, right? | ||
| You saw this. | ||
| I'm in voir dear, right? | ||
| And I'm knowing that 95% of the jurors, because they're drawn from the voter pool, voted for Joe Biden, right? | ||
| And some of these jurors, prospective jurors are saying, well, I don't like Trump. | ||
| And then the judge would always say, Do you think you can be objective? | ||
| And they go, Oh, yes, I can be objective. | ||
| Okay, you're on the jury. | ||
| And the one or two people we had that that looked like they might be fair, the prosecutors understood it as well. | ||
| So they were gone. | ||
| And so uh this was the same court that got all the J six people, sent them to jail without any bail, made them made them spend time before they were even charged, continually overcharged them, uh, put like long prison terms on. | ||
| I mean, in a fair trial, I would have been acquitted on the basis of executive privilege. | ||
| Um, even if I had been convicted, they would have been probation and Not imprisonment. | ||
| And that's not what happened. | ||
| And there was one, there's one funny story in the book. | ||
| I went to prison, so you won't have to about how the judge the jury's deadlocked. | ||
| Steve, in your case, they went out and then came back in like in record time, right? | ||
| Guilty ban and go to jail. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| With me, it was like at least some suspense, Steve, where we're uh hours went by and we're thinking, oh, this is kind of interesting. | ||
| And the judge lets the jury go outside the courtroom for what a walk. | ||
| They wanted to get some quote fresh air. | ||
| And they got some fresh air right in the middle of all the protesters out there with signs like jail tomorrow, hang tomorrow, this, that, and the other thing. | ||
| They get back in, and like, I don't know, eight minutes later, it's guilty verdict. | ||
| And we said, mistrial, and the judge, of course, said, well, no, there was uh they were peaceful out there, so no mistrial. | ||
| So the other thing I should tell you is like, okay, so we get convicted, you and me get convicted. | ||
| We had, I don't know, I think there's seven times we appealed different things, and those two judges I referenced earlier, Millette and Pillard, either one or both of them were on every single appeal of the, and there are only three judges on appeal that you and I had, Steve. | ||
| So this idea that the appeals are random is just nonsense. | ||
| And I I mean, these people, I don't know where they got their law degrees, really, up the back of a corn flags box or something. | ||
| It doesn't hold it. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| It's not about the it's not about the law, it's about politics. | ||
| You see the first says the point. | ||
| It's a kangaroo court. | ||
| And they're so obvious about it. | ||
| This is one of the reasons you get so infuriated as you read your book. | ||
| And folks, this is not gonna change even by the time Trump's out. | ||
| You've got to go back. | ||
| Now, one good thing I've heard is about the autopens for the judges. | ||
| I'm hearing from U.S. attorneys that there may be some whole question of that. | ||
| But the DC district, it's a totally rigged game. | ||
| I mean, we had a I had a judge that was I had a judge that we had actually worked on his confirmation, he's a Trump judge. | ||
| He was homeless, he wasn't as bad as yours. | ||
| Your yours was insanely over the top and clearly hated you, right? | ||
| Uh but here's the thing. | ||
| These people never in a million years thought we were coming back. | ||
| They never, if if you had to take the braid of the judge that Peter Navarro would be back in the White House, are you can Donald Trump be back in the White House? | ||
| Steve Banner would be yelling and screaming on his Charve Day. | ||
| They had no, I tell you what, Peter, hang on. | ||
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| Okay, Peter Navarro's with us. | ||
| By the way, I'm putting up stuff on Getter all the time, and so is Dr. Peter Navarro. | ||
| You get all his kind, not all his kind. | ||
| He's on he's on Twitter and these other big platforms. | ||
| Peter, now I want to pivot from how you got there in the rig system, and they came at you for a misdemeanor, which by the way, in every other case in American history has been civil, but for Nur and Ben, it had to be criminal, right? | ||
| Because Pelosi wants us to go to prison. | ||
| I might add that everybody associated with this in the house that that condemned Peter Navarro and sent over to the Justice Department, sending him to prison in a rig deal, all crawled on their bellies to get pardons, the staff, all of it for pardons. | ||
| And I'm not so sure those pardons are going to fact. | ||
| I'm pretty sure they're not gonna hold, but I'll get to that later. | ||
| I want to talk about now prison. | ||
| The proudest moment I've ever had, because I didn't really know all the details about your arrest at the time, but the proudest moment, dude, is when you walked into prison and stood before those sticks and just I said, That's the Peter Navarro note. | ||
| You made it about a big issue bigger. | ||
| Here's you're 70 some years old, and folks, prison is day, federal prison is dangerous. | ||
| It's very dangerous for anybody. | ||
| But for guys in their 70s that go into federal prison, having been senior, uh, senior executives in the United States government, and particularly with President Trump, they're sending you in there to get fucked with. | ||
| Let me be blunt, okay? | ||
| Pardon my French. | ||
| That's what they're doing. | ||
| And you I was so proud, we covered it live. | ||
| You went up to those sticks, and you were just the fighting Bannham Rooster, you always are. | ||
| Tell me about prison, particularly the night before. | ||
| Nervous, all of it. | ||
| What's the book tell me? | ||
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| See, see, that was uh that was a surreal experience walking there. | ||
| Um it was from the heart, and I really thank um you and RAV uh for covering it. | ||
| And then the book ends of that is like I walked out of prison on July 17th, uh, I think it was 1 a.m. | ||
| Um and wound up on the stage of the Republican National Convention, basically um telling these people who had put me there for four months uh to go to hell that we're gonna win that election, and um you're gonna be held accountable. | ||
| Uh prison Steve, it's uh what it called the book, No Country for Old Men, but that title was taken. | ||
| Um it was an interesting experience, but I think that um you and I both spent our time uh in a way which was was useful for the American people. | ||
| I I think the Democrats will regret sending me to prison because I uncovered what was a four billion dollar scandal uh with respect to how Donald Trump's signature prison reform, the first step back, was not being implemented. | ||
| Essentially the BOP was breaking the law. | ||
| Yeah, I got in there. | ||
| The funny story the first couple of days, and there's a lot of funny stories as well as a lot of blood and violence, unfortunately. | ||
| Um I'm in there, I'm out in the yard, and the these three guys surround me, and I'm thinking, you know, what could go wrong here? | ||
| And in their broken English. | ||
| Uh one of the guys says that uh that they like me. | ||
| And I go, Well, why do you like me? | ||
| And it's like uh because you didn't snitch. | ||
| And um I kept a poker face, but I'm thinking I'm I'm laughing at my ass off inside thinking the you know, what's the moral equivalence between me not talking to Congress in order to honor to honor executive privilege in the constitutional separation of powers, and not snitching on your gang member when you just robbed whatever it was. | ||
| And you know, there were those kinds of experiences. | ||
| I I uh like one point I I did arguably save one guy's life. | ||
| Um there's a story in the book about that, how I got him to a hospital on emergency basis, really, really moving story. | ||
| Um and then just like the prison economics, how they they screw you at the commissary with with higher prices, uh, how the the food, like I lost 12 pounds, Steve. | ||
| I didn't have 12 pounds to lose. | ||
| Uh the the the uh farm the medicines there, they don't give it to the inmates, so guys who were on meds coming in uh and they don't get their meds, they flip out and there's there's the difficulty there. | ||
| But you know, look, um before I went in, I talked to uh Paul Manafort. | ||
| And as bad as you and I had it, Steve, um he arguably had it worse because he he was uh arrested and held without bail before even got to trial for a long time, and they really punished the crap out of him. | ||
| But but he stressed the importance of working. | ||
| So every day I wrote the diary, which became uh the book, I went to prison, so you won't have to. | ||
| Uh and every day I I took care of of my physical health as much as I could given the constraints of the diet. | ||
| Um I was like Switzerland in there. | ||
| It was we had 200 people in there, about half of them were from uh Puerto Rico because I don't know if you know this, Steve, but Puerto Rico doesn't have uh federal prisons to speak of because uh there's too much corruption down there. | ||
| So they sent him over to the mainland. | ||
| And so this idea that I was in like a camp, you know, I can we joke about that, but um most of those folks were in for drug running, fairly significant drug offenses, often with guns. | ||
| Uh you had like the Haitians who were always kind of like like the internet fraud. | ||
| The white guys were were the the white-collar crime, like you know, killing people with oxy and stuff like that, or ripping off Medicare. | ||
| Um I just I you know I was able to move seamlessly through that. | ||
| Um I was called on to arbitrate some disputes which could have led into violence. | ||
| And I became like the clubhouse lawyer for the first step back when guys needed medical care. | ||
| I was the guy that called, because I was the only guy who could take risk. | ||
| If if people did what I did when I was on the inside, they get what called diesel therapy, they'd be out the door the next day and they'd be on a bus moving from Atlanta out to Oklahoma or to wherever for months on end. | ||
| Um so look, I made the my I made the best of of what was a bad time. | ||
| And if uh now on the outside, talking about hang on, hang on, but talk to us about I want to put us in there when you first walk in. | ||
| Yeah, give us the experience, like in the book. | ||
| You first walk in, talk about talk about the because you're transitioning from people don't understand this. | ||
| Peter was in a camp, but it was a quite dangerous camp. | ||
| I was actually in a prison. | ||
| When you walk in, you have no freedom. | ||
| This is the thing. | ||
| I want people to fully understand. | ||
| And and it should care scare this audience to its core. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Peter Navarr and Steve Ben are pretty tough guys. | ||
| I'm telling you, when you walk into a prison, you have given up. | ||
| When I say giving up your freedom, you have it's not just freedom, I can't go see the family, I can't run around and go to Starbucks. | ||
| That's not the freedom I'm talking about. | ||
| All of your movies, everything you do, they own you. | ||
| You do you have no freedom of your micro in universe? | ||
| You are a prisoner. | ||
| You are a convict. | ||
| You are an inmate. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You're nameless and faceless, you've got a number, and the cops and the uh in the corrections officers and the administrators, and particularly not only don't care in many situations, particularly given the fact that you're a Trump uh uh acolyte and associate, aren't ready to give you a group hug. | ||
| So walk me through. | ||
| I get about 10, 12 minutes here. | ||
| I want you to go through when you walk away from those sticks and go through there, it's a difference of night and day because you're going from you can do anything you want, you can walk to the refrigerator, you can go here, you can go there, you can cut the TV off, you can read a book, you can call somebody on a phone. | ||
| That's all gone. | ||
| You lose all not your freedom to go to Hawaii or something like that. | ||
| You lose your freedom of your own person. | ||
| Peter Navarro. | ||
| Yeah, Steve. | ||
| It starts with like how do you prepare for that day you walk in? | ||
| Because I I had some responsibilities. | ||
| It's just things like paying the mortgage, taking care of Pixie, making sure everything on the outside was done. | ||
| You got to prepare your contact list in advance as the people that you could call or email because they really really constrain that. | ||
| So you're like you're like in this frenetic kind of thing, trying to get ready for that day you walk in. | ||
| And you walk, you I go from the sticks in my flight jacket after a dress in the world, essentially, um, into uh a holding area where they take you in, you s you strip down, they do the strip search stuff. | ||
| Uh everything you own goes into a bag and and uh and a packet, and you're not gonna start. | ||
| Hold it, hold it, hold it, hang on, hang on. | ||
| It ain't it ain't a strip search, it's a strip search means cavity check. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Yeah, a cavity check. | ||
| It is it is as much to humiliate you as to make sure that nothing that you're bringing in, you're not bringing anything into prison. | ||
| So, folks, be prepared to grab them, right? | ||
| And have cops there and everything. | ||
| This is the entire experience is made to humiliate you. | ||
| The entire experience is made, they're trying to they're trying to the process, they're trying to break you and make you docile. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They're trying to institutionalize you, and they've got a whole system. | ||
| The Bureau of Prison got a whole system of how that's gonna happen, right? | ||
| But you're gonna be theirs, you're not gonna be yours. | ||
| That that's the one thing you have to understand when you go in mentally that you must keep your person about you. | ||
| You must be focused. | ||
| That's why for me, it was an ex it was an amazing um experience. | ||
| It's like being in a foreign country. | ||
| When you go to the exhilaration of being in a foreign country, everything's new and everything's different, and your senses are more on alert. | ||
| Your senses have to be to the tenth power because you're in an environment where they're trying to control you in one hand, and it's quite dangerous given the general population on the other. | ||
| You got to be like in a zen total focus, or you're going to get crushed, sir. | ||
| And and there was always the danger there that because I was a Trump guy, and you you had it too. | ||
| They could they could take you out. | ||
| The first couple of days are the most dangerous because that's when the other inmates are checking you out. | ||
| Uh but the first night was um was was uh was a darkly comic nightmare. | ||
| Um there's a chapter, and I went to prison, so you won't have to call the you know the coldest summer I ever uh spent, the coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in a Miami prison because this is like the darkly absurd kind of thing. | ||
| I go into my dorm, and there's 50 guys in there all like looking at me, they you know, it's like checking the the Trump guy out. | ||
| And uh I'm I'm about 10 minutes in there, and I start like my teeth are chattering, and I go, what the hell's going on here? | ||
| It was like it was like 59 degrees, Steve, in this dorm um in Florida. | ||
| And I I would find out soon that lightning had struck the electronics of the thermostat and they didn't spend the hundred bucks to fix it. | ||
| So instead they spent several thousand dollars a month more basically running the air conditioner full bore. | ||
| So I'm like, you know, so like just freezing. | ||
| Um I saw my first uh taste of humanity there too, as well, Steve, because um the inmates, the culture there was when when folks came in, if you passed the test of not being a snitch, and they had ways of going on the legal legal uh websites to figure out whether you had snitched or not. | ||
| If you pass that test, they would help you get get your uh uh sneakers and and uh uh maybe a t-shirt and some some runnings uh running pay pants, whatever, um, until you were able to get the commissary. | ||
| You know, like I get in there and commissary just by chance is like shut down. | ||
| I won't be able to get the commissary to get anything for for three weeks. | ||
| So I again darkly comic stuff. | ||
| I'm combing my hair literally, Steve, with a fork. | ||
| And it's like um you just you just try to get into the into the rhythms and And they take your freedom. | ||
| Must be clear about it. | ||
| There's five counts a day, right? | ||
| At every one of those counts, you had to be by your bunk, standing in attention with your mouth shut. | ||
| They come by and give you that that look like you're a you know POS. | ||
| And if you're not there, you you're you're you're going to the shoe to solitary. | ||
| And at night, the part of the counts, they they come uh flash their lights in your eyes to make sure you're breathing and stuff like that. | ||
| And we, you know, I you and I joke about what's better than the case. | ||
| No, no, no, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| All night, all night, all night long. | ||
| All night the counts go at three counts. | ||
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What 10 o'clock, midnight, two, three times. | |
| They come in and they put that flashlight. | ||
| They put that flashlight right in your face, right? | ||
| They're gonna make sure that you're yeah, and and um it's like, and then um you you try to find your your rhythms. | ||
| Uh the problem we had, one of the problems we had was we had a particularly aggressive what uh the SIS, they squads that would come in um and toss the units and break break stuff looking for contraband. | ||
| Um, well, they're doing they're doing that for they're doing that for drugs. | ||
| The place, okay, the place, the place are fess it with drugs and phones. | ||
| You can't have either, right? | ||
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And this is why you have SIS rates constantly. | |
| In my place, um there wasn't a lot of drugs. | ||
| There was some marijuana, but there were they didn't have the K stuff that you smoked that turned you into zombies. | ||
| We had K2. | ||
| But the point is that there was one guy, I love this guy, Zach. | ||
| He he ran the uh the the laundromat, really hardworking guy, um busted for you know the drugs and the gun and all of that, but he's trying to set his his life straight. | ||
| And he he one time joked for me, is a joke that that the all they're looking for is stuff that you can buy in any 7-Eleven. | ||
| And it was true, like the the phones and things like that. | ||
| And um, I there's a funny story again. | ||
| I try to, I try to, I did the diary every day kind of religiously. | ||
| Sometimes like at two in the morning, I'm standing up and you there's no computers or any of that stuff to do this stuff. | ||
| And I I go to get a dental exam, which was hilarious in and of itself, because they were going to see if I had any dental work that needed to be done. | ||
| And if I did, I wouldn't get it for another year when I was long gone, right? | ||
| But this guy looks at looks at my lips, and he goes, Um, you know, you're getting a little dryness there. | ||
| It's prison. | ||
| Uh he goes, um, you better get some some sunblock. | ||
| You need an SPF of like at least 70 or 100. | ||
| And I go, um, sir, it's like the only thing they sell at is at the commissary is like it's like a 30-sun block, you know. | ||
| You get fried out there. | ||
| And uh he goes, well, don't worry, just go to Walgreens. | ||
| And I go, dude, I called him dude at that point. | ||
| It's like, I'm in prison. | ||
| What you know, knock knock, um, you know, who's there and stuff like that. | ||
| So I got it um I got I got a couple minutes. | ||
| Hang on, hang on, I got a couple minutes left. | ||
| This has been amazing. | ||
| But I want you to make directly to this audience why this book, you need to buy this book and why you need to read this book, and why you need to embrace the lessons of this book, sir. | ||
| For the for the posse, for the war room posse, the the top line of this is if they can come for me, they can come for you. | ||
| If they come for Steve Bannon, they can come for you. | ||
| And it's even worse than that. | ||
| They're coming for you. | ||
| They want power back, and they're coming for you. | ||
| And this book, it's the sixth stage of grief for Charlie Kirk. | ||
| It's we have to hold these people accountable. | ||
| So I want, if you would, please, Posse, like represent here. | ||
| We got to drive this to the best seller list and make a point. | ||
| Because if we don't make this point that we're gonna hold you accountable, they're gonna do this as soon as they get power back. | ||
| So that's the top line of the book. | ||
| But it's also a story uh That's that's just it's it's funny and interesting. | ||
| You want to know the answer to what's it like to go to prison for a misdemeanor that you didn't really commit and be put in with 200 felons for a nice four-month vacation? | ||
| Read the book. | ||
| And the the other thing, Steve, I look, I haven't talked about this, but I actually went in there and I uncovered the scandal associated with the first step act that Donald Trump passed in 2018, where it's not being enforced. | ||
| I put my policy hat on, my investigative reporter hat on. | ||
| I figured exactly how to save this country five billion dollars and lower the rest of the rate by putting up the doing that. | ||
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Yeah, I got that. | |
| I got that. | ||
| But you know what you're gonna do. | ||
| It's a political form. | ||
| What we said needed to be done. | ||
| President Trump, and Peter's people should know Peter and what he's doing over BOP with Jared and some other advisors is monumental and trying to get this mess sorted out because it is a mess. | ||
| The guys running BOP will tell you that we're prisons. | ||
| More importantly, this is why I put out the statement. | ||
| I think it was 29 in uh either August or September. | ||
| I came out and said that President Trump was gonna win. | ||
| Only time I ever put anything from prison, uh, I think it was six weeks before the election. | ||
| I said, Trump's got this because of my understanding of the prisoners and what Peter's talking about, the first step back. | ||
| President Trump is kind of revered for what he's tried to do for for on these mass incarcerations. | ||
| We got a bounce. | ||
| I want to know where to go get your writings, your editorials, your accordance on social media, and the books are. | ||
| Well, go to Amazon right now. | ||
| Buy one for yourself, buy one for a friend. | ||
| Amazon.com, I went to prison so you won't have to. | ||
| And by the way, I just debuted, got my uh old Peter Navarro.com website back up. | ||
| So that's your one-stop shop for all my social media for the book and everything like that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I can't thank you enough, Steve, for writing the forward to I went to prison so you won't have to, for publishing this under the War Room brand, and for having this hour-long thing. | ||
| No, I love it. | ||
| Be a forced multiplier posse for us, because what Steve and I are doing is not for us, it's for you. | ||
| No. | ||
| Peter Navarro, we're gonna end with the right stuff because I'm telling you, this is a guy that's got it. | ||
| That kind of indescribable just grit, determination, patriotism, all of it. | ||
| A great American, a historic American. | ||
| And the book is a story. | ||
| Buy it to see what happened, but put the lessons inside because guess what? | ||
| It's not Trump, Bannon and Navarra, they're coming for you. | ||
| Hard. |
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