Sept. 20, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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DC Aamon Javers has this latest. | |
| Uh, amen. | ||
| Melissa CNBC has obtained a clip exclusively of an interview with former uh White House advisor Steve Bannon. | ||
| The interview is conducted by Sean Spicer, who's of course the former press secretary for Donald Trump in his first term. | ||
| Uh in this interview, Bannon makes a provocative suggestion about the future of Scott Bessent, who's the Treasury Secretary and whether or not he should have a role at the Fed. | ||
| Here's what he says. | ||
| I am a big believer that on an interim basis that Scott Besson should be both the head of the Federal Reserve and the Secretary of Treasury and maybe get through the midterm election, step down as Treasury and take over the Federal Reserve. | ||
| Now that full interview is going to air at 6 p.m. on Sean Spicer's podcast on YouTube. | ||
| But in that you see uh Spicer discussing this with Ben. | ||
| And we should note, of course, neither one of those men is a current White House official. | ||
| Uh both of them retain uh significant relationships here inside the building. | ||
| And so this idea uh that Scott Besson should be uh both the Treasury Secretary and the chairman of the Federal Reserve after Jay Powell uh is clearly an idea that's going to get some traction inside this building. | ||
| Whether it will be embraced by this building is a different question entirely. | ||
| Uh we'll ask White House officials what they think of that idea. | ||
| Scott Bessant himself has said uh he does not want to be Fed chair, he's happy in the job that he's in. | ||
| The president said in August that he was taking Bessent off the list of candidates for the Fed uh because Besson told him he wants to stay at Treasury. | ||
| So uh this idea though that he could have a dual hat obviously will raise a lot of concerns among people who are uh very focused on the idea of Fed independence. | ||
| Uh the idea that you could have a Treasury Secretary simultaneously uh running the Fed will be controversial in those circles, guys. | ||
| Uh the whole interview, as I say, uh on 6 p.m. tonight on YouTube, but that is the gist of the comments there from Bannon who says he likes the idea. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not gonna stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
| It's Saturday, 20 September in the year of our Lord 2025. | ||
| Thank you for sticking around for the second hour of the Saturday morning edition of the Worm. | ||
| You know, uh it's our favorite show of the week. | ||
| Uh we can actually get into some topics in in more depth. | ||
| Um I think it's the first time I our record keeping here is sometimes a little loosey-goosey, but I think it's the first time we've ever had uh at least on the Saturday show, but I think any time an hour where we have three doctors, and I mean like PhD heavyweight intellectuals. | ||
| That would be Dr. Dave Brett, uh Dr. Peter Navarro, and uh Dr. Michael Savager join us here momentarily. | ||
| Um and Brett, I think your your doctorate is not in theology. | ||
| You uh you may have a sidebar in in or side deal in theology, but you got you actually have a doctorate in economics also, right? | ||
| Yeah, master's divinity PhD economics. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| And of course, Dr. Navarre joins us now. | ||
| Uh has his doctorate from from Harvard, but didn't damage him uh too much. | ||
| Uh uh too much. | ||
| Uh Peter, give us your assessment. | ||
| I'll keep you out of the Fed uh Treasury uh debate. | ||
| Oh no, no, no, no. | ||
| I want to in that man. | ||
| That would you come up with that? | ||
| I think that's genius. | ||
| I actually think it's genius. | ||
| And for nothing else, let the left's head totally explode. | ||
| I mean, we've got Stephen Miran essentially doing the same kind of thing. | ||
| I you know, I'm thinking about that. | ||
| That's kind of kind of interesting. | ||
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So if nothing else, they're gonna be the toaster more. | |
| With Sean here, brother. | ||
| Well, as you remember, because you were down in Marlon you were in Mar Lago in the transition and had it had uh Elon and uh in Lutnik and in the war room in Besson. | ||
| And our our our pitch at the time is that the president had people like yourself, people he had worked with on these policies, and we were trying to give a heads up that you're gonna totally reorganize the global trading system around America first, and that you needed a treasury now more than ever, someone that could take President Trump and your guys' policies, explain it to Wall Street and to the world's capital markets and the world's finance ministers, and be a safe pair of hands. | ||
| I think Scott has done that in in spades. | ||
| Of course, he's taken over some of the negotiations, some of these deals. | ||
| Just where do we stand with that? | ||
| Because I think that a lot of questions about the American economy now. | ||
| Uh I see a lot of positive things here. | ||
| The big beautiful bill's about to kick in, I think, with the more of the supply side. | ||
| But uh people are kind of on tenter hooks about the Supreme Court and about uh what they're gonna come down on. | ||
| I guess your use of emergency powers to drive a lot of the trade deals. | ||
| Given that the president came back from the UK and it turned out the second day there was much bigger on economics than I thought it was going over there. | ||
| I didn't think he'd toss Starmer a life preserver, which he essentially essentially did. | ||
| Not that Starmer could not that even a life preserver by the president could save him, but uh your thoughts on where we stand, sir. | ||
| Well well, the UK, I mean, look, there I think per capita income is below that of Mississippi. | ||
| I mean, it's it's really low, and it's all because of the illegal immigration and and brick, you know, we knew kind of why Brixit came along. | ||
| Let me say that. | ||
| Let me make a comment about this Federal Reserve tank. | ||
| It's like there's two really things you have you gotta do there. | ||
| You gotta figure out where short-term interest rates are, and then there's this much much heavier lift about sorting out how to uh undo the balance sheet get which got screwed up, start going back to the 2007 uh great recession. | ||
| Um as far as the first thing, Steve. | ||
| I mean, look, yeah, you don't need to do anything essentially to set interest rates other than to read the paper every day. | ||
| I mean, that's the easiest job in the world. | ||
| It's like there's nothing mystical about that. | ||
| They can dress it all up they want in data, but I mean, that could be a side job to a shy job. | ||
| I could have done that when I was a professor, you see Irvine done it out there and make a phone call on the day they're sat in race and say, put it at this. | ||
| Um so uh Scotty is like he he could do that in his sleep. | ||
| Um with respect to the court case, let me just say I I agree uh 110% with Donald Trump that if the Supreme Court chooses not to support his IEP or powers, uh it's gonna be a catastrophe for this country because what we've learned, Steve, from the Trump tariffs this time around, uh, is two things. | ||
| One is that they are highly successful in defending this country against unfair trade and bringing in investment here to onshore our factories and jobs. | ||
| I mean, we're at 17 trillion dollars uh of uh so far in an investment, and that's uh bigger than the GDP of virtually most other countries around the world on an annual basis. | ||
| I mean, it's just it's just huge. | ||
| Uh as I've said before, the court case, the appeal uh that was rejected uh at the appeals court level was a political decision. | ||
| The seven people who voted uh against the president, uh, six of them were Democrats. | ||
| It was a poorly written decision, and stands in sharp contrast to the the really thoughtful uh dissent by four of the judges led by this guy named Toronto. | ||
| Um and uh it's a roadmap essentially for the Supreme Court to rule in our favor, in America's favor, uh, on the key issues, whether uh or not the uh tariffs are permanent, | ||
| which they're not, whether or not you can use tariffs as a form of regulation of imports, which you can by the law, and whether or not it's an emergency uh with respect to both the fentanyl crisis and with respect to the uh the trade deficit. | ||
| So let's see what happens. | ||
| But the if the Supreme Court wants to rule in our favor, it will be able to do so firmly grounded uh in the law. | ||
| This is not politics anymore. | ||
| It should not be politics. | ||
| If we lose the ability to tariff, we're gonna not be able to pay down our debt. | ||
| That's the big epiphany. | ||
| And there's so much support now on Capitol Hill among people who used to oppose us, uh, on particularly on the Republican side, because they understand, yes, it addresses unfair trade, but it's also um a get out of debt jail free card uh that has literally no penalties for the American people. | ||
| There's no inflation, there's no negative impact in growth, it's just the opposite. | ||
| So that's true, Steve. | ||
| And we're bullish about what's going to happen uh in October on this. | ||
| Tim Tim Cook or Tim Apple, as we refer to him, actually said yesterday uh Apple put it out officially. | ||
| There's been no price increase whatsoever uh on the iPhones because of the tariffs, which is you know, the son of us. | ||
| I gotta pivot because we're limited time and I want to get to I want to talk about your book and about your your journey. | ||
| Tomorrow you're gonna join us. | ||
| So the audience knows us. | ||
| We're gonna be live Eastern Daylight time from 10 a.m. to I think 8 p.m. | ||
| Uh from the uh from Cardinal Stadium. | ||
| Studio 6B is going to pick up after that, I believe, but we're gonna be there for like about 10 hours um to do uh both the religious service and Charlie's celebration of life. | ||
| Dr. Varr will make sure that you can make it up to the um to the uh our studio, which will be in Cardinal Stadium. | ||
| It would be good to see you there right now. | ||
| It'd be good to see you there personally. | ||
| Yeah, we want to we um since you never come to Washington anymore, you kind of leave us here in the deep swamp uh with a snorkel and you know stuff like that. | ||
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But um look, I got sucked in there for six months. | |
| Tomorrow will be a celebration of uh of Charlie's life. | ||
| Um we we have we are doing our our our grieving, and that's that's appropriate. | ||
| Um I would like to just say that the five stages of grief uh that we are going through has a sixth stage, and that's accountability. | ||
| Uh, because if we don't hold these people accountable for all the things that they're doing to us, uh then they're just gonna keep doing it again. | ||
| And the the book, if I may, that I went to prison so you won't have to, is really uh a wake-up call to the American people that uh this war against MAGA against Trump against all of us, Steve, on our side of the fence, which is which is the flyover country, middle of America, blue-collar jobs. | ||
| Um, it's an asymmetrical war on us, Steve. | ||
| The left is doing to us what we don't do to them. | ||
| I mean and and I went to prison so you won't have to document uh the range. | ||
| You know, it starts with Dan Scavino and Mark Meadows, two, two folks I worked with in the White House. | ||
| They didn't go to jail, but they had to pay millions of dollars in legal fees. | ||
| And then you got John uh John Eastman and Jeff Clark, who were lawyers helping the president, and they're trying to take away their livelihood uh and and bar cards. | ||
| And then you and me, Steve Mann and Peter Navarro go to prison for defending the constitutional separation of powers. | ||
| And then Donald Trump, four courts, they try to put him in prison two times, they try to kill him, and now they've assassinated in the most cowardly way, uh, one of the great young minds uh and and political organizers uh we've ever seen throughout the history uh of America. | ||
| So we have to fight back. | ||
| And look, the only way I know how to fight back is with the pen. | ||
| The pen's mightier than the sort. | ||
| I write books. | ||
| I try to explain to people what's going on. | ||
| And people need to understand. | ||
| If they can put you and me in prison, uh they can they can put all of us in prison. | ||
| So I went to prison so you won't have to. | ||
| It was a tagline from my speech at the Republican National Convention. | ||
| And I was simply like, come on, America. | ||
| Please understand that if they can come for me, Vanald Trump, and then they took Charlie Kirk out, and they go for John Eastman, Jeff Clark. | ||
| Just run the Rudy. | ||
| America's mayor. | ||
| And they're whining uh about uh Jimmy King. | ||
| Hang on for a second. | ||
| You're you're coming out tomorrow. | ||
| You're coming out tomorrow with the Washington contingent. | ||
| Rudy, who we tried to make we try we we try we try to get Rudy out there because of his injury in this car accident. | ||
| He's he and he's gonna join us for the broadcast. | ||
| So we'll have the mayor on. | ||
| We'll have Peter uh live, many other personages live. | ||
| I'm gonna ask Dr. Navarro stick around for a just a minute or two on the other side to talk about. | ||
| We've got a whole schedule of activity with Dr. Navarro that we want to you to make sure you get into your calendar. | ||
| Dr. Savage, Dr. Brett, Dr. Navarro. | ||
| next in the War Room. | ||
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| This Sunday, Real America's Voice pauses to honor a patriot whose voice carried a movement. | ||
| Rev presents Charlie Kirk, a legacy remembered. | ||
| We will achieve American greatness. | ||
| And we are just getting started. | ||
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From campuses to the national stage, Charlie inspired millions to stand boldly for faith, freedom, and country. | |
| Now we reflect on his life, his mission, and the legacy he leaves behind. | ||
| The evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination. | ||
| When America needed a hero, God sent us a Charlie Kirk. | ||
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Hosted by Steve Bannon. | |
| Live coverage of Charlie Kirk's funeral service begins at 10 a.m. | ||
| Eastern. | ||
| Join us as we remember a life that will never be forgotten. | ||
| Only on Real America's Voice. | ||
| Sunday night on C-SPAN's Q&A. | ||
| White House trade advisor Peter Navarro went to prison in 2024, convicted of contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena from the January 6th committee after being found guilty on two counts. | ||
| In his new book, I went to prison, so you won't have to. | ||
| Peter Navarro lays out the Justice Department's case, his arrest and trial, and what it was like for him behind bars. | ||
| People think you're in a dorm rather than a cell. | ||
| It's like everybody told me there that they'd rather be in a cell. | ||
| Because you only have to worry about one other guy. | ||
| You know, there's a thing called the lock, lock and the sock, right? | ||
| You take a padlock, you throw it in a sock, and and you know a lot of rough justice goes on like that. | ||
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White House trade advisor and author Peter Navarro, Sunday night at 8 Eastern on C-Span'CA. | |
| You can listen to QA wherever you get your podcasts. | ||
| And on the C-Span now app. | ||
| Is that the difference between a camp and an actual prison? | ||
| I'm just kidding, we're not gonna get in this fight today. | ||
| We are not gonna do it. | ||
| Let's throw down. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| No, no, no, we're not. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Peter, so Peter and Peter Navarro are coming at least. | ||
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Okay. | |
| This one's for you, Steve. | ||
| I'm not the only guy in the room. | ||
| That's the difference between that's that's a difference between a convict and an inmate. | ||
| But anyway, I digress. | ||
| Um Peter's gonna be with us tomorrow on the show, as many other people are you still remember your number. | ||
| Uh yeah, yeah. | ||
| I guess you don't. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I keep my prison. | ||
| I I keep I keep my prison card in my wallet. | ||
| It's the topic. | ||
| Peter, we got a bounce because I got uh time, I got time to strike. | ||
| Um tomorrow you're gonna join us during the commemoration. | ||
| You're actually gonna come out with the DC contingent tomorrow. | ||
| Eight o'clock tomorrow night. | ||
| Uh when our coverage finishes, we're gonna go right into the C-Span uh book talk QA with Peter about the book. | ||
| Peter, Dr. Navarro's gonna join us Monday to give us uh his thoughts about what went down on Sunday and other things related to this uh his accountability, which he says is the sixth stage of grief. | ||
| I agree with. | ||
| And then on Tuesday night at six o'clock, our entire six o'clock show are gonna be Dr. Navarro and myself uh going through uh the book and uh and other things related to Charlie Kirk in this movement. | ||
| So um Dr. Navarro, where do people go to get your writings? | ||
| You're your prolific as usual about defending the president's policies. | ||
| Uh you're the best uh there we got on trade and the best I think we've ever had. | ||
| Uh and I gotta tell you, Charlie Kirk and that generation of young people, Peter Navarro works every day to make sure those jobs are coming back for them. | ||
| And this is the this is the linchpin of making sure that that that amazing generation, particularly young men from 18 to 30, which I think is the most based generation we've ever had, uh, really get a shot at having the best jobs in the world created by the American economy. | ||
| Dr. Navarro, where do people get you, sir? | ||
| Where they get the book? | ||
| The important thing is tomorrow, Steve, at 8 p.m. Eastern and 11 p.m. again. | ||
| Uh C-SPAN will play the hour-long interview. | ||
| And uh I really strongly encourage you to do that. | ||
| The important thing now is to go to Amazon right now, buy I went to prison, so you won't have to uh get the book out because what we have to do is get the message out. | ||
| If they can come for me and Steve, the rest of us, they can come for you. | ||
| We have to hold these people accountable. | ||
| You can always go to my substack, Peter Navarro.com. | ||
| And uh it's gonna be a great week talking with you, Steve, about uh all of this. | ||
| Um I have my retro background here, by the way. | ||
| I don't know if you noticed my homage to your roof from pandemic. | ||
| You went you went blue and modern on me uh a little bit, but I got I got the original pandemic background. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I'm gonna sell it on eBay when I retire, all right. | ||
| Okay, brother. | ||
| Uh we'll see you tomorrow in Phoenix or Glendale area. | ||
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Thanks. | |
| Thanks for doing your coverage tomorrow for 10 hours and to uh Rog Sagan Parker at RAV. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wouldn't have it any other way. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Let's go ahead. | ||
| We got a clip that's been very powerful. | ||
| It's gone viral multiple times about our next guest, Dr. Michael Savage. | ||
| Let's go ahead and literally. | ||
| Something's wrong. | ||
| I know I shouldn't do this. | ||
| I'm risking an awful lot to go up against this FBI, the MAGA FBI. | ||
| Something's very wrong with what I just heard. | ||
| I mean, I watched it. | ||
| I was hoping that they had caught the bastard who shot Charlie. | ||
| So we saw a video of a person jumping off the roof. | ||
| It looked very legitimate to me. | ||
| However, there was no rifle in his hand. | ||
| Now the Mauser does not break down very easily, incidentally, for those of you who know weapons. | ||
| Something's wrong with the whole thing. | ||
| They're trying to claim he removed the barrel from the Mauser and fit the receiver and stock in his backpack and barrel in his pants like all in two seconds. | ||
| It is not easy to remove a Mauser barrel or index it after reinstalling and remain accurate. | ||
| We are not hearing or seeing reality. | ||
| And by the way, the photo of the rifle allegedly left in the woods has the barrel installed. | ||
| So we're supposed to believe a guy is on the run after killing Charlie Kirk, and he pauses in the woods to reinstall a barrel, and then he leaves it for us to find the FBI to find. | ||
| I don't believe a word of it. | ||
| I shouldn't do this. | ||
| I know I'm putting myself at risk, but I can't take it anymore. | ||
| I can't take the from this government. | ||
| It's lying to us. | ||
| Let me jump in here. | ||
| Dr. S Savage, you've got a particularly with President Trump, your close personal relationship with him, and uh you got to go pretty far in the woods to hit your tripwire in this. | ||
| Uh, we've got about four minutes here. | ||
| We're gonna hold you post the break. | ||
| What is your general concern with everything you've heard out of Utah about this situation, sir? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| I don't know any more than anyone else does. | ||
| It is so muddied. | ||
| The waters are so muddied right now that uh it would take a diver with a uh an acetylene torch to get into the wreck and pull out the corpse. | ||
| I have no idea, Steve, what the hell is going on? | ||
| The kid said uh they say the kid confessed, right? | ||
| Okay, then they then they said he's not cooperating. | ||
| Then he was cooperating, then he wasn't cooperating. | ||
| Then the messaging between the alleged assassin and his trans roommate, or his transitioning trans roommate, which will make him a trans trans roommate, uh seem to be very uh stilted for kids that age, they don't talk that way. | ||
| If you actually analyze the alleged messaging between the two of them, it doesn't seem like them. | ||
| People of their age don't talk that way. | ||
| In fact, someone did a complete analysis of that conversation, and it sees seems that it was an AI uh written text message between the assassin or the alleged assassin and his roommate, | ||
| based on style, objective analysis of the text, tone, style, dialogue is formal with complete sentences, proper punctuation, and no slang emojis or abbreviations typical of young adults texting casually. | ||
| So once actually analyzed this. | ||
| You know, there are a lot of smart people out there, Steve, who aren't in the government, who listen and watch, former intelligence operators who are retired who haven't lost their marbles, who are saying something's not right with the picture. | ||
| Uh but again, how do we know uh who who done it? | ||
| It's it's a gigantic who done it. | ||
| But does it matter who did it at this point? | ||
| The main thing is they killed the leader of the next generation of patriots, borders language culture conservatives, kids who don't want their country to be taken away from them, kids who don't want America to become a piece of uh the EU or like the EU, or worse yet, devolve into Ukraine with a war. | ||
| Uh so something's not adding up. | ||
| I don't think we're getting the whole truth, but Steve, again, you know, I live alone out in Northern California. | ||
| When I say live alone, meaning I work alone, I don't have a crew, I don't have a team. | ||
| I feed the birds, I ride my bicycle, I go out on my boat, I talk to the Pelicans as they fly over my boat. | ||
| I pray to God several times a day in a very deep manner, trying to reach God and get some residence. | ||
| It's one man looking in from the outside. | ||
| I have no answers to this, Steve. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Truthfully, don't know. | ||
| And by the way, you said close to President Trump. | ||
| I wish that were so. | ||
| He just went to England. | ||
| I'm still banned from entering England, if you can believe it. | ||
| And I had sent a request that he at least raised the topic with the great Keith Stomer. | ||
| Crickets, I don't get responses anymore from the White House, Steve. | ||
| I'm not part of the in-crowd. | ||
| I mean, I wish I were. | ||
| I flew on Air Force One with the president in the last administration. | ||
| We shared a hot dog. | ||
| And uh he's a great man when you know him. | ||
| You know him better than I do. | ||
| He's a kind, gentle man to his friends and very sensitive. | ||
| And I know when he sees me, I see his eyes, he likes me. | ||
| But the people around him right now, they seem to be a Praetorian guard that's impenetrable, and you can't get near him. | ||
| Even those who were instrumental in his rise, you can't get near him unless I don't know, unless you know someone in the inner circle protecting him from people like me. | ||
| Dr. Savage, hang on one second. | ||
| We're going to go to commercial break. | ||
| An individual talked about that decades ago. | ||
| It's the problem before us today. | ||
| Dr. Michael Savage on the other side. | ||
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This Sunday, Real America's Voice pauses to honor a patriot whose voice carried a movement. | |
| Rev presents Charlie Kirk, a legacy remembered. | ||
| We will achieve American greatness. | ||
| And we are just getting started. | ||
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From campuses to the national stage, Charlie inspired millions to stand boldly for faith, freedom, and country. | |
| Now we reflect on his life, his mission, and the legacy he leaves behind. | ||
| The evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination. | ||
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Have no idea what they have done. | |
| When America needed a hero, God sent us a Charlie Kirk. | ||
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Hosted by Steve Bannon, live coverage of Charlie Kirk's funeral service begins at 10 a.m. | |
| Eastern. | ||
| Join us as we remember a life that will never be forgotten. | ||
| Only on Real America's Voice. | ||
| I adapted a book... | ||
| Uh in my years as a filmmaker, producer and financier. | ||
| I adapted Peter Schweitzer's book, Reagan's War about the uh opening of the files of the KGB and looking back over President Reagan and uh it was called the film we retitled as uh In the Face of Evil. | ||
| It was shortly thereafter the release I met Dr. Michael Savage for the first time. | ||
| That's 20 years ago. | ||
| And uh he was at that time, I think one of the two or three towering intellects that were saving the country's borders language culture. | ||
| Dr. Savage, when did you come up with that phrase? | ||
| When that because you and what I loved about you, it was like a howitzer. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Every show, boom, every segment. | ||
| You went back to it just for relentless, but it it it was the foundational intellectual element of the Trump, the nationalist side of the Trump movement. | ||
| What do you mean by borders language culture? | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| By the way, thank you for having me on the show. | ||
| I haven't seen you in years. | ||
| You look great and you do a great show, incidentally. | ||
| Just loved seeing Peter on. | ||
| It was amazing to watch this. | ||
| So 1994, I began in radio. | ||
| A few months later, I created a uh new movement called, which by oh my goodness. | ||
| I created why do people call me all on that? | ||
| I created a new movement. | ||
| I I have to shut my phone. | ||
| I'm sorry, Steve. | ||
| I created a new movement at the time that predated the MAGA movement. | ||
| It predated the Tea Party. | ||
| It was called the Paul Revere Society. | ||
| We used to get groups together, 2,000 people, screaming patriots. | ||
| They never heard anything like this in Liberal Marin County in liberal San Francisco in Oakland. | ||
| And I had to define what the Paul Revere Society stood for, which was, I said, borders language culture. | ||
| It was right in the original cards of the PRS. | ||
| And I said, a nation is defined by its borders, language, and culture. | ||
| Now, there's not a nation on earth, whether it be an island nation in the Caribbean, you name it, Trinidad, or the United States of America, that is not or should not be defined by its borders, language, and culture, which is exactly why the internationalists have gone after our borders and every border on the planet. | ||
| George Soros open border society, open border society. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| So he went after the borders. | ||
| He turns us into a polyglotination, a tower of babble, so people don't know what the hell they're talking about, and they can't communicate with each other, and then the elites can manipulate them. | ||
| And culture. | ||
| Well, what is our culture? | ||
| What is our culture? | ||
| Well, it certainly isn't uh, let us say, teaching children how to do a trans dance in the first grade. | ||
| That wouldn't be our culture. | ||
| Culture would be the founding principles of our nation, which would be the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, if you want to just simplify it. | ||
| And that message resonated with people, Stephen, because everybody can relate to BLC, borders language culture. | ||
| And in Europe, look at Europe. | ||
| Look what's going on in Europe because of the elites, how they've destroyed every European nation with people from Africa, people from the Middle East who are raping their way across the continent, living on welfare. | ||
| It's shocking to see the people being so suppressed with almost no reaction. | ||
| You were talking before about the people reacting, I think to Peter. | ||
| Peter said he uses the pen. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| The pen is mightier than the sword until you're thrown into a prison cell and denied basic human rights. | ||
| Then the pen is worthless. | ||
| That's the problem, Steve. | ||
| And I don't know how far we're gonna go. | ||
| Here's what worries me the most. | ||
| I mean, I'm just you know, rapping with you right now. | ||
| Trump can only be in office for a maximum of number a couple of years, right? | ||
| Then his administration's over, correct? | ||
| Steve, am I with you? | ||
| I don't even know. | ||
| We are working yeah, we we are we are working on alternatives. | ||
| We're working on alternatives right now because I say, hey, unless you got Trump, uh, I don't know how you pull us off. | ||
| And what and they're liable to they're liable to win with a they're liable to win with a with a with a communist, the way things are going in this country. | ||
| Look at what's going on in New York City. | ||
| How could a new a news a new some a new some a new some AOC ticket, which shows you everything you need to know, right? | ||
| That would be the least of our problems. | ||
| By the way, a newsome would be the least of our problems, not the worst of our problems. | ||
| Mamdani would be the worst of our problems if the 9-11 type 9-11 types took over America. | ||
| Think about New York City, a city that was bombed on 9-11 by these airplanes, now is electing a man who's overtly and clearly and clinically uh a front for the Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
| I mean, there's no other way to not analyze this guy. | ||
| These people are so stoned on this heavyweight marijuana, they don't even know what they're doing in that city. | ||
| And they're saying, you know what, anyone but a big white guy like Trump, F him, screw him. | ||
| We don't want the rich guys. | ||
| We don't care who takes over, we just don't care. | ||
| Just anybody but him. | ||
| That's what's going on in the country. | ||
| That's the lazy zeitgeist of what's the undertone in this country. | ||
| And there's only one Trump, and there's no one to replace him that I can see. | ||
| Dr. Savage, uh, I want to go back to uh by the way, I agree with you 100%. | ||
| I would I want to go back to uh accountability. | ||
| Look, the 60s, it started coming unwound with the assassination of JFK and the cover-up where Americans really, you know, from that post-war generation really started to look in the in the in the greatest generation started to lose their confidence in American institutions. | ||
| Doesn't that make your video the reason it went mega viral? | ||
| Is that people are saying they go, Michael Savage? | ||
| What Dr. Savage is saying is correct. | ||
| We need to get to the bottom of this. | ||
| We need accountability. | ||
| We need to know exactly what happened here because nothing makes sense. | ||
| The videos don't make sense. | ||
| The text messages are an insult to people's intelligence, just an insult, a brazen insult. | ||
| He's writing, they got the guy from ABC News, David Muir's, you know, reporter that's crying. | ||
| Uh, because he, you know, he says, wow, it's so touching and so lovely what he said to his partner. | ||
| He wrote a Shakespeare sonnet in the middle of this. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| So talk to us about how we bind together to make sure there's accountability here, and we get to the bottom of I believe a vast conspiracy to assassinate and execute Charlie Kirk. | ||
| I can't answer the question. | ||
| How do I know? | ||
| I as I try to say to you earlier, I I work in my own vacuum. | ||
| I'm just a man looking in from the outside. | ||
| I feel like I'm in Brabbing Dang. | ||
| Okay, you know the reference, of course. | ||
| I'm looking in from the outside. | ||
| I don't have any inside information. | ||
| I don't talk to anyone in the government. | ||
| I don't have any contacts in the government. | ||
| I use plain native intelligence, deductive reasoning, and watch the world go around, and none of it adds up that this kid did it on his own from the shot. | ||
| Everyone's oh, it's an easy shot from 250 yards. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It's that easy at that angle. | ||
| Who says that's an easy shot, even with a telescope? | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Then what's up with the hand signals? | ||
| What was that with the hat and the hands? | ||
| Did that ever get resolved, Steve? | ||
| Who are those guys? | ||
| Remember that the hand signals? | ||
| What was that? | ||
| Those two guys. | ||
| Who are they? | ||
| Nothing? | ||
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Nothing's been there. | |
| Those came out? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| No one knows who they were. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Um and and the way I keep telling people the way to put that down is to flood the zone with raw information. | ||
| The governor went up there. | ||
| Remember the first time the governor talked, he talked about the guy changing clothes and changing clothes on the roof. | ||
| I still ask the question, and I've watched this thing now a hundred times. | ||
| I don't see a gun being dropped off the roof. | ||
| Now people are saying, oh no, no. | ||
| And the and they said the other day, the DA that he dropped a gun off the roof. | ||
| I mean, Dr. Savage has watched it a number of times. | ||
| You haven't seen it. | ||
| I haven't seen it. | ||
| It just it's strange credulity, what we're being asked to accept. | ||
| And uh in the cover-up of Kennedy is one of the reasons that you've had this loss of faith in our institutions, sir. | ||
| Well, the the Kirk Killer Robinson and his text messages to his paramour seems like not like Gen Z texting, by the way. | ||
| It seems like it was written as a um screenplay from someone in Hollywood. | ||
| Immature guys in their 20s don't talk that way on texts. | ||
| The confessing guy Robinson, he's calm, articulate, he's not sloppy, not frantic. | ||
| And there's something unusual about the text messaging between him and his boyfriend. | ||
| They feel stiff, uh, literary, like dialogue from an from a uh what's that? | ||
| Uh I won't said HBO, I netflix crime drama. | ||
| So you've got that. | ||
| I mean, I think we the people have a right to ask the questions, don't we? | ||
| Of the authorities, Steve, you, you are you're close to but can I ask you something, Steve? | ||
| Are you still close to the president? | ||
| Do you still advised? | ||
| I think we would say that uh I I don't want to give up the conversation, but I think with the, you know, you can see by the stuff we do on the show and where it goes that uh we make sure that our voice is heard. | ||
| Let's say that. | ||
| And I agree with you, it's not easy. | ||
| You have to you have to make sure that uh that your voice is heard. | ||
| But I think on here, like for instance, we just talked about the Secretary of Treasury earlier in the big fights on that and H1B visas. | ||
| So uh, but you're correct. | ||
| It's not uh it's not easy, and you have to be very focused, and you have to know how to kind of push it. | ||
| But I agree, and I think there's so many people like you that have been key advisors and not even advisors, but setting the intellectual tone of the populist nationalist movement. | ||
| We only got a couple minutes, real quickly. | ||
| Why are you still banned? | ||
| I want your nation to hear this. | ||
| Why are you still banned from entering England, of which we're cutting all these trade deals with? | ||
| Why is Dr. Michael Savage banned from going to England? | ||
| This was a book written when I was banned in 09. | ||
| It's been almost 20 years, 15, 20 years, I don't know how long. | ||
| I am still banned from Britain for things I said and did not say. | ||
| And the fact of the matter is it was a grave injustice. | ||
| It still is a grave injustice. | ||
| I reached out to President Trump before the trip saying, please talk to Stomer about getting this man off the list. | ||
| Never heard any anything back from the individual that I texted, actually sent the whole file to. | ||
| And uh I spent 400,000 at the time to get my name off the list. | ||
| I was told you will never get your name off the list. | ||
| You can't fight a government. | ||
| I thought point blank, no one has ever successfully fought a government and won in a court in a court of law. | ||
| Well, we got text, we got uh emails back and forth from then prime minister Gordon Brown, and Gordon Brown said we have to balance the list, meaning there's enough Muslim terrorists on the list who are not permitted to enter England. | ||
| We got to balance the list, so let's find an American Jew to put the uh tail on the donkey. | ||
| That was me. | ||
| See, see how they balanced the list? | ||
| And this came from within the United States of America. | ||
| We traced it back. | ||
| I can't name names because we're not sure. | ||
| Inside the Democrat Party, they communicated with the then secretary of whoever, Jackie Smith, and they made me the same equal to Russian skinheads who had killed people in the streets, Hamas terrorists who had beaten the brains out of children, Jewish children on buses. | ||
| How did that happen that a talk show host who, if he said anything like that, would have been thrown off the air before he finished the words, he would have been blown. | ||
| I never said those things that they accused me of. | ||
| You know what I said that got them crazy? | ||
| I said, what's gonna happen if England becomes an Islamic country and they get a nuclear bomb? | ||
| Would you rather see 100 million of us killed or 100 million of them killed? | ||
| So they twisted it. | ||
| The Jake Tappers, the Wolf Blitzers, and people like that in the media jumped down my throat and said, Savage said kill 100 million Muslims. | ||
| I never said that. | ||
| I was using it on analysis saying, wait a minute, Europe's becoming Islamist. | ||
| This was 15 years ago. | ||
| I saw what was happening. | ||
| And I said, wait till they take over a country with nuclear weapons like France or England, and they get a nuclear weapon. | ||
| I said, would you rather 100 million of them die or 100 million of us die? | ||
| So they twisted that to me saying, kill 100 million Muslims. | ||
| Who would say a thing like that? | ||
| I didn't Dr. Savage Dr. Savage hang on one second we're gonna hold you through uh no you gotta bounce uh through the uh commercial break make sure people have your coordinates where you get your show your content all of it birchgold.com take your phone out and text Bannon at 989898 the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals this is the age of trouble use your host Stephen Kass Dr. Savage | ||
| we're gonna work to get you back on next week you had a big story about artificial intelligence you want to talk about our audience is huge on that um coordinates where they get your podcast social media where do they get up to speed on everything Dr. Savage is talking about talk to God he'll answer the question he knows more about it than I do he knows where I've come from and where I'm going but I'm on on X at a savage nation and my podcast you just go to Michaelsavage.com it has 500 episodes of my podcasts I left | ||
| radio no four years ago I don't know how long ago I only do podcasts and some appearances on TV and on your show once every 10 years but uh basically it's it's it's uh it's uh you know it's it's I I like X I'm addicted to it it's too much of an addiction by the way I'm like an eight year old on the tweeting and I gotta stop because I'm starting to get a little nuts with it. | ||
| You know you can make mistakes on X. The problem with tweeting it anyway at a Savage Nation the podcast is I think it's the Savage Nation podcast. | ||
| That's what it is 500 episodes. | ||
| Yeah I'm gonna talk to you after I I'll track you down this afternoon I will try to get you we'd love to have you participate in our commemoration tomorrow 10 hours from uh Glendale from Cardinal Stadium. | ||
| Dr. Michael Savage uh the audience loves you sir you're a towering intellect has been one of the great patriots in the late 20th and early 21st century sir never forget that Dr. Michael coming from you it means a lot Steve thanks for making my life meaningful thanks brother no you made the not just your life meaningful you help save your country sir remember Savage what I love about Savage he's gonna give it to you with both barrels man there's no sure there is no sugar coating | ||
| he's gonna give it right to you day bratt uh you're gonna be joining us tomorrow also uh from Liberty uh give me uh a minute or two on on the eve of the commemoration of the celebration of life of Charlie uh Charlie Kirk yeah well the whole the whole show what you're doing today is uh commemoration because it honors his life with everything you said uh Dr. Savage borders language culture uh here's uh what else we don't know anything about JFK RFK Reagan Nixon Trump Charlie Kirk Martin | ||
| Luther King. | ||
| We don't know anything about any of these. | ||
| It is a stunning, right? | ||
| We have a ruling class. | ||
| And so I'm going to end where you started the show on this escalatory ladder. | ||
| You asked us about our degrees. | ||
| There's two moral philosophers that have subdivided this world into two parts. | ||
| One is Adam Smith, moral philosopher, economist. | ||
| The other is Karl Marx, communist. | ||
| Adam Smith's system of natural liberty is compatible with Christianity and liberty. | ||
| Karl Marx, for the young people out there, and this is what Charlie spent his whole life on, right, was connecting all these ideas and all these dots that matter for your future. | ||
| Karl Marx and socialism, we have three years to tear it down, right? | ||
| The real power of social, it's not just an economic system. | ||
| It's a power system and a set of ruling elites that have taken over this country when it comes to Federal Reserve, et cetera. | ||
| They have 100 different financial instruments they use to control the interest rate. | ||
| It ought to be one. | ||
| It ought to be the money supply and that's it. | ||
| I could go on forever, but we need to tear it down get back to the basics of natural liberty get rid of the federal government return it to the states when we've rev when we've revolutionized a guy like Dave Brett we're winning Brad what's your social media we'll see you tomorrow yeah just Brad Economics on getter go to get her on X as well thank you we'll see you tomorrow brother appreciate you great Taj Gill's going to join us for our coverage tomorrow. | ||
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| We got we have a lot to talk about, Charlie Kirk and also the assassination. | ||
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| Taj, we'll see you tomorrow. | ||
| Tell us when we join our coverage uh as a day brett. | ||
| Hopefully, I'm gonna talk to Dr. Michael Savage because we're gonna have everyone so many people on plus live from the stage with the religious uh ceremony, the religious commemoration, and then the uh celebration of life. | ||
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