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unidentified
Michael Anton from the State Department.
He's just authored the National Security Strategy also in the mix is Mike Flynn and Steve Without.
Can you give us an indication for the Well they're all good?
donald j trump
No, we'll make a decision soon.
unidentified
Okay.
donald j trump
But we're doing very well.
You know, I settled seven wars more than that, I think.
But actually, we settled seven wars.
I have uh we're working on Gaza, it's a tough one, but we'll get it done somehow.
And we're uh also working with Russia and Ukraine.
They hate each other so much you wouldn't believe it.
President Putin and President Zelensky, they hate each other to a level that you wouldn't believe.
So they're having a little bit of a problem with that.
unidentified
And are you considering Stephen Moran for Fed chair?
donald j trump
Never too much.
He's doing a great job, just got approved.
He's uh his vote was a very good one.
Uh the Fed should have done more.
You know, too late.
Powell is terrible, it's terrible.
Chair.
I think it's just terrible.
But um despite that, we're powering through it.
We have another record stock market today.
We're uh very, very high levels, and uh we're at the highest levels.
So we're setting records many, many days during my administration.
We set records, and uh we'll see what happens with 50,000, 50,000 is a pretty big number.
Never come close, and we're not so far away from it.
So that's because they see what's happening.
Not so much what's happening exactly right now, but they see all the plants that are being built.
They say you see the uh kind of investment that's gonna be made.
When you take 17 trillion dollars, so Biden had 250 billion, okay.
We're putting a simpler way, they had l much less than a trillion, but they had less than a trillion for four years.
I have 17 trillion for eight months.
Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
And I think they're looking at that and they're saying when those plants open right now, they're being built, a lot of them, and some are starting in over the next year, takes a while, but we're getting fast permits, and when those plants get built, I don't think there'll be anything like what we're going to experience.
Yeah.
unidentified
Mr. President, if I can uh on the top subject of free speech, Ted Cruz compared uh Brendan Carr to a mob boss, the way he's threatening uh television stations and saying it's absolutely dangerous uh for the government to determine which speech is okay and which is not.
What's your reaction to Ted Cruz?
donald j trump
I think Brendan Carr is an incredible American patriot with courage.
You know, it used to be, I remember in the old days that uh networks would have to get licensed, relicensed, and it was always a big deal.
You know, they had to show honesty and integrity.
Uh when you have a network, again, I'll use the same numbers, whether it's 90 or 94 and 97, all different numbers.
But when you have networks that give somebody 97% bad publicity or 94% bad publicity, uh I think that's I think that's dishonesty.
And you know, they're getting free airwaves, right?
You can know that, right?
You get them for nothing.
These airways, they make millions and millions of dollars.
The news makes millions of dollars.
ABC, your network.
I mean, your network wrote very badly about me, and they had to pay me 16 million dollars.
unidentified
But you think that's the one.
I wasn't looking for the Brandon Carr's a right to take away the license.
donald j trump
I think Brendan Carr is a courageous person.
I think Brendan Carr doesn't like to see uh the airwaves be used illegally and incorrectly and and purposely horribly.
Uh does it like to see a person that won the election in a landslide get 97% bad publicity before the election?
I mean, it's amazing that I won the election with that.
But here's what happened.
The people have given your networks no credibility.
They don't give them any credibility, John.
If they did, they wouldn't vote for me.
They wouldn't have voted for me.
Uh when you look at, I mean, you could also say the liberal media, the liberal left, when you look at these stories and papers, but we're not talking about that.
We're talking about, I assume you're talking mostly about the networks, but they have a licensing procedure, and you can read it as well.
They have to show honesty and integrity.
And when they take a when they take a good, well, I think the people decide that's why I'm president.
When they take a great success, like you often do, and you make it into like it's a loser, or you put a negative spin on it, I don't think That's right.
So I think Brendan Carr is a great American patriot.
So I disagree with Ted Cruz on that.
unidentified
Mr. President.
The UN next week, you're going to the UN.
donald j trump
I'll be at the UN.
I'll be making a speech, yes.
Many of them.
Well, I'm just a meeting.
unidentified
Syria set up.
What is your goal for attending that meeting where you hope to get out of here?
donald j trump
Uh world peace.
Nobody's done a better job than I've done in World Peace.
Nobody settled so many, so many uh wars as I have.
You know, I've been here probably a little bit more than eight months, and I've settled seven, and that doesn't include uh the uh destruction of a vast potential nuclear disaster in Iran, which we wiped out totally, as I say, obliterated, we obliterated it.
It's been turned right with this beautiful plane right here.
We just ordered some more of them, by the way.
The B-2 bomber just ordered some more of the the more updated version, not that we needed that.
We just need the plane because it was so flawless.
These pilots flew 37 hours flawlessly, not an engine problem, not a not a screw, not a bolt came loose.
It was an amazing compare that to many years ago, Jimmy Carter, same same country with the helicopters and the problems and the prisoners and the hostages, and what a mess.
No, these these planes flew 37 hours without a stop.
They fueled up.
We had 52 tankers fueling the planes along the way.
It was an incredible, and every single bomb had its mark, and then we fired 30 of them from submarines from a submarine.
Uh what a job that was.
And I don't even include that.
But that stopped a war.
That stopped maybe a catastrophic war.
unidentified
Mr. President.
donald j trump
So, you know, so I think that nobody has ever done anywhere near that.
Now, on top of that, we're working very hard to get Russia Ukraine settled.
We'll see if what's gonna happen there.
I hope we're gonna get it done.
Uh, President Xi and I spoke to about it, and I believe that he really would like to see it done also, and I think he's gonna work with us to help.
unidentified
What was your message?
What was your message to President Xi on the war in Ukraine?
What are you asking?
donald j trump
Well, it's the same as his message to me.
He would like to see it done.
He would like to see it.
I believe he would like to see it end it, yes.
I do believe.
unidentified
These two wars that you were talking about, Gaza and Ukraine are escalating at the same time.
You're gonna take the stage of the UN back at the stage after these years.
Do you plan to setting any kind of red lines for these two countries?
And you said before.
You are frustrated with Putin.
Are you also frustrated with the people?
donald j trump
We have a long time to go before I get up and speak at the UN because every day is a long time when it comes to Gaza, when it comes to Israel and the Middle East.
So we have a long time to go.
Uh, but uh you know a lot of my opinions, and remember this.
You can't forget October 7th either.
People are forgetting October 7th.
They forget it too quickly.
That was one of the worst days in world history.
It was the most evil attack that I think you could really say babies were involved, little babies were involved, and having their heads chopped off and all of the things that took place.
You can't forget that.
I don't forget that.
A lot of people do, but I don't, yeah, but I'm our president.
unidentified
What goes into retaking Bagram?
Does that require boots on the ground?
donald j trump
Uh we'll see what happens with Bagram.
We're talking to uh Afghanistan.
It should have never been given up.
It was the most embarrassing day in the history of our country.
There's no reason to give it up.
I was leaving Afghanistan.
I was leaving.
I was the one that got it down to 5,000 soldiers, but we were gonna we were gonna keep Bagram, the air base.
It's uh I said it yesterday, and we had an incredible trip, as you know, to UK, and I said it during the press conference.
Uh it's one of the most powerful runways ever built in terms of weight, length, and load, what it can what it could take, and we just gave it up for nothing.
We gave it up for nothing.
There was no reason to give it up.
We weren't gonna leave Bagram.
Uh Joe Biden didn't know what he was doing.
We had a man that didn't know what he was doing.
We had a man, by the way, that uh didn't approve if you take a look at what's happening in Congress.
We had a Man that signed everything with almost everything with an autopen and he didn't tell the people from the autopen whoever was using it.
The one man that used it predominantly said that Biden only spoke to him twice and it was only about the weather.
Okay, it was about nothing.
So those pardons that he gave are illegal.
He gave illegal pardons.
And that includes the congressman that destroyed and deleted all the information from J 6.
They deleted everything because it turned out that they were wrong.
It turned out that I offered 10,000 National Guard or soldiers, whatever they wanted, and you wouldn't have had a problem.
And they turned it down.
Nancy Pelosi turned it down, and the mayor of Washington, D.C. turned it down.
They deleted everything and they destroyed it, illegally destroyed it.
And Biden gave them a pardon.
And Biden gave a lot of other people pardons that frankly would be in jail if it wasn't for those pardons.
But those bardons now are illegal, according to just about everything.
unidentified
Well, was you having to do that?
On Letitia James, or are you disappointed that the U.S. attorney for the Easter District of Virginia has not prosecuted Letitia James?
Do you intend to fire him?
donald j trump
Well, we're going to see what happens.
I am not following it very closely.
It looks to me like she's very guilty of something, but I really don't know.
I know that the uh U.S. attorney from the Eastern District or from that district in Virginia, uh, that he was uh approved by two Democrat senators who, in my opinion, are among the worst.
And when I learned that two Senators, Democrats, because as you know, it's very hard with the blue slip.
It's very hard for a Republican to get somebody approved if you have one senator that's a Democrat because of an old custom.
It's not a law, it's a custom, it's ridiculous, it's a ridiculous custom.
But if you have a Democrat senator, you have to get that Senator approved.
Well, in this case, we had two.
Uh when I saw that he got two senators, two uh gentlemen that are bad news as far as I'm concerned.
When I saw that he got approved by those two men, I said pull it, because he can't be any good.
unidentified
So you're on fire, do you want him out?
donald j trump
Yeah, I want him out, yeah.
When I learned that uh he was blue slipped through by two Democrat senators in Virginia, people that would uh never vote for the people that haven't voted for us for probably years, okay, probably years.
Uh two, in my opinion, two bad guys.
You know, they are Warner and Kane, two bad guys, bad senators, too.
They do a terrible job for the people of Virginia.
But when I saw that he got approved by these two terrible people that haven't voted, they just don't vote no matter what it is.
We could give them the greatest deal ever, and they still wouldn't vote.
And they voted for this guy, and I have other people, judges, and I have U.S. attorneys from other states where I have the same situation, and uh they can't get approved.
So when I learned that they voted for him, I said, I I don't really want them.
unidentified
Okay.
Do you want you want to get the move behind you, please?
Have you seen the polling, the Gallup poll out of Ukraine?
That shows 23% less than a quarter of Ukrainians actually support continuing the war against Putin.
We saw the European leaders come here and try to say the words the world is united for the war effort, but Ukrainians have war fatigue themselves.
Your thoughts on it.
donald j trump
I don't blame them.
It's a war that never should have started.
It's a war that never would have happened.
If I were president, that war never would have happened ever.
That's a disgrace that that war happened.
And they're losing anywhere from five to eight thousand people a week on that war, which is the worst since the second world war.
That's a war that should have never happened.
unidentified
And if you consider it.
donald j trump
Would have never happened.
And it didn't happen for four years.
When I was here, it didn't happen.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Have you considered cutting funding, even promises made by the Biden administration?
donald j trump
Well, we're not spending any money on the war.
You know, we're being paid for everything we said, unlike Biden.
He gave him 350 billion dollars, and it's just it was shocking.
We're not uh spending any money on the war.
The war is uh being funded by NATO.
Uh NATO is buying our equipment.
In fact, we're I don't want to make money on that war.
I don't want to, but we are actually making money of that war because they're buying our equipment, as you know.
But we uh NATO, as you know, it's very important, is funding the entire thing.
They're paying for the missiles for the tanks, they're paying for any anything they're sent over there, it goes to NATO, And then NATO does what they want with it.
In this case, I guess they give it to Ukraine.
It's a very sad war.
It's a war that never should have happened.
unidentified
Mr. President.
Going back to TikTok, could you tell me about it?
Is the U.S. government going to take a board seat in the company and will the US government get a board seat within the company?
donald j trump
Well, we're going to announce that.
Are you talking about TikTok?
Yeah.
We're going to announce it.
But it's a great deal for our country.
It's a great deal for all of the young people in the country that wanted it, and people generally.
I was happy with it.
Look, I wasn't a fan of TikTok, and then I got to use it, and I became a fan, and it helped me win the election in a landslide.
So I I think that it's a deal that's gonna be great.
And it's also controlled by very uh powerful and very substantial American people.
All American by the way, all American people.
unidentified
Mr. President, a question from Newsmax.
Last year, before you took office, there was an estimated 6.8 million men not actively seeking work of prime working age.
So if you and Secretary Lutnik could talk about the efforts your administration is taking to help our American gentlemen get back to work.
donald j trump
Yeah, well, what we're doing is they're building plants all over the United States, and frankly, because of tariffs, we're taking in trillions of dollars, trillions of dollars.
And countries that have ripped us off for years, and everyone knows this, countries that have ripped us off for years, like nobody's ever been ripped off before.
They're now having to pay up.
They're paying a lot of, they're paying a lot of money to America, and we're reducing taxes with that money, and we're uh we're doing things that we were never able to do before.
So it's uh you're gonna have a lot of jobs.
You the jobs are being created right now.
And the tariffs, the tariffs are protecting our country, and we didn't use, you know, tariffs were used against us, but we didn't use them against others.
But we're really better at it than anybody else.
So we've taken in, we will have taken in trillions of dollars.
Uh nobody has ever seen anything.
Even people that were against the TRAFs, now they see the way they're working.
And by the way, with no inflation, with no problem.
We're just building up cash, and we're using that cash to reduce taxes, reduce debt, and other things.
It's a great thing to watch.
And uh your honest reporters are saying they've never seen anything like what's happening.
Our country is becoming very rich again only because of tariffs.
If we didn't have it, if we didn't have, if I didn't get elected, this country would be it was a dead country.
Look, we were a dead country a year ago, and now we're the most successful, most vibrant country anywhere in the world.
unidentified
He said, Healthcare can turn out.
Thank you, sir.
I tried uh tonight in a few minutes, Steve Bannon will appear on my show.
He floats the idea that you should dual hat uh Secretary of Treasury, Scott Bessant, not only as Treasury Secretary, but as interim fed share.
Would you be willing to entertain that?
donald j trump
In other words, he likes Scott.
Yes, sir, very much.
So do I. And I like Steve too.
unidentified
Would you like to see that in dual heads?
donald j trump
I'm certainly an interesting dual.
I would save a little bit of salary.
I think I could maybe make a deal where we just give them one salary.
You know, I have a couple of them.
unidentified
I don't think you need to.
donald j trump
I have Marco.
No, I don't think.
We have I we have Marco's got about three positions, right?
He's doing great also.
No, uh no, I don't think that's gonna be necessary.
Actually, um, I went to Scott and I talked to him about that position, and he loves what he's doing right now.
So, you know, he's not in the mix because he's he loves being Secretary of the Treasury.
unidentified
Follow up.
Today is the first day of early voting in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
Are you planning on campaigning for Winsome Sears, John Reed, or Jesse Mayoris?
donald j trump
Well, I'm gonna have to look at some of them, as you know, you know, it's sort of a semi-local uh election.
I've been watching it, I've been seeing the edge.
unidentified
I would appreciate it as a Virginia voter.
donald j trump
Who do you like of the group?
Who do you like?
unidentified
The whole tickets.
donald j trump
All of them, you like them?
Well, I'll take a very strong look.
Okay, for you, I'm gonna look at it.
unidentified
I prefer President.
Secretary Kennedy's uh panel on vaccine changed its broad recommendations on COVID-19 vaccines today.
Are you comfortable with that change?
Or would you like to see Americans take the vaccines that were developed under your tenure?
Yeah.
donald j trump
Well, the vaccines, according to a lot of people, and if you look at George, have had a tremendous, you know, Operation Warp Speed.
It was just according to just about everybody, was one of the greatest things that any president has ever done in this country.
So we're very proud of it.
I'm very proud of it.
I'm also very proud of regenerating some of the things that came out of, you know, all of the labs and all of the research that we've done.
So I don't know exactly what the final uh determination is, but I had the vaccine.
I was very happy with it.
Here I am, right?
unidentified
Bobby Kennedy seems to be undoing what you did with Option-Shrum Warp Speed.
donald j trump
I put him in there because I want to have opposite views.
That's okay.
I think we're gonna have something very, very big coming up soon on autism.
Autism is totally out of control, and one of the biggest uh one of the most important things that, in my opinion, I had to do is to see what's going on with autism.
We're gonna have a uh news conference early next week on autism, and I think you're gonna see some things that are amazing that we've learned that somebody else wouldn't have learned.
It's out of control, autism, out of control.
And I think we maybe have the reason why.
unidentified
But is Bobby going is Bobby Kennedy going too far and unwinding the vaccines?
donald j trump
He's saying for older people.
Yeah, he's saying for older people.
A lot of people agree with that, and uh, but uh I can tell you this Operation Warp Speed, one of the greatest things a president has ever done for this country.
And you can say the world, because when we came up with that vaccine, the whole world opened up.
But I I put Bobby there as somebody that will go either way from I and I want, you know, I want the facts, but I also look at facts from uh Pfizer, where they spent a lot of money on the other drug companies, they spent a lot of money on uh finding out the results after the fact.
The results were amazingly good.
unidentified
I'm wondering if you've seen the video put out by former Israeli hostages.
It's addressed to you.
One is a widow of one that died, and these are people who are freed thanks to you, but they're actually encouraging you to force a ceasefire, uh, force Netanyahu ceasefire, and they didn't address it to him because they think you're the one who might actually listen to them and get it done.
They're worried that the hostages who are still there are more at risk if the war continues.
Your thoughts on that?
donald j trump
They might be.
Uh, they also maybe they'll be freed because of that.
You know, you never know how it's gonna look war.
I was saying, yes.
War, a lot of strange things happen.
A lot of results take place that you would never think were going to happen.
Uh as you know, I was able to get most of the hostages out.
We're down to 20.
Uh, and we have 32 dead people, you know that we have 32, maybe more, 38, but between 32 and 38 people that were dead, mostly young people, and I've dealt with some of the parents.
And uh, we got all our Americans out, as you know, but now we're talking about mostly Israelis.
But I dealt with parents, I spoke to parents, and they want the body of their son, believe it, almost all cases, sons, but they want the body of their cherished beautiful son.
They want the body back as much as as though he were alive.
It's so sad to see.
But I've dealt with the mothers and fathers, please, sir, please.
The body of my son, they know he's dead.
And they want they just want him back.
They want him back as much as as though he's alive.
I mean, it's uh it's very terrible.
And you know, we have very close to 40 bodies that are included in the whole thing.
But we have 20, probably 20 that are living, it might be a little bit less because a couple of things.
Look, young people don't die, okay?
They just don't die.
And they can take a lot, but these a lot of people died in these horrible tunnels.
They're mostly in the tunnels.
I know a lot about it.
I got them out.
I got them out.
But I always said the last 20, when you get down to the last 10 or 20, it's gonna be very tough.
It's a nasty, it's a nasty situation.
You can't forget October 7th, but it's a nasty situation, terrible.
unidentified
Mr. President, the UN concluded this week that Israel committed genocide in Gaza.
What are your thoughts on that?
donald j trump
Well, I haven't seen that.
I'm looking at it, but uh did anybody commit genocide on October 7th?
Uh what do you think about that?
Uh That was genocide at the highest level.
That was murder, genocide, you can call it whatever you want.
But little babies were chopped in half.
unidentified
Any gosh?
donald j trump
Arms were cut off people, heads were cut off people.
That's genocide.
That's genocide also, I guess.
unidentified
What do you think?
What is that fee?
donald j trump
Well, it hasn't been fully negotiated, but we'll get something from the standpoint that uh we worked hard.
We put up a lot.
We spent a lot of money uh on letting this come and and letting this uh you know it's a it's a very, very big deal.
It's very it's a very powerful deal.
And uh the United States really I I see it.
I mean, people were saying save TikTok, save TikTok.
So many people.
It's a big thing.
And you know, China can be very proud that they were able to get that started.
And so I very much appreciate President Xi's working with us on that.
Very much.
unidentified
The Press: Mr. President, are you aware, Mr. President, What comes next after designating Antifa Terrorism?
donald j trump
We're gonna designate too.
But we're gonna look at the people that funded Antifa, see who they are, where they came from and why they did.
Have you seen Portland at all?
If you take a look what's happening in Portland, it's uh I mean it is been going on for years.
They're just people out of control, they're crazy.
We're gonna stop that very soon.
We have to get rid of a couple of other problems first.
We're gonna get rid of the problems in Memphis where you can't even walk a block without getting shot.
We're gonna get rid of the problems in Chicago.
Chicago's a great city, and we have to save it.
We have to save it.
I told you I had the head of the Union Pacific Railroad in my office, and I said, So what do you think?
You go to every city, you have railroads and every biggest railroad, beautiful railroad, he's a great guy.
I said, What do you think?
He said, sir, save Chicago, don't let it go down, save it.
The way he said it was so meaningful to me.
It was so like it was like terrible.
In a way, it was terrible.
Save Chicago.
You know, who would ever think that w we'd be sitting here talking about saving Chicago?
Chicago's a great city.
They have a terrible mayor, terrible.
He's at like 5% approval rating.
He's an incompetent person.
They have an incompetent governor, in my opinion.
He's incompetent.
Eleven people get shot, and he says crime isn't a good shot.
I mean, they're losing four, five, six people a week, getting killed by bullets, by knives.
And then he says how wonderful it is, Chicago.
unidentified
So, well, it might be wonderful for him.
donald j trump
I think they're afraid.
I look, he's not a stupid guy.
I really believe they're afraid to say that politically, I guess, from an ideology standpoint, uh, from a democratic uh standpoint, he's afraid.
He is afraid to say the fact that they have a very unsafe, very dangerous city.
He should say, I'm gonna call President Donald Trump, and I'm gonna ask him to send in the troops to send in the National Guard and clean this hellhole up.
Because Chicago can be a great city again.
I'll tell you what, Washington, D.C. is a great place again.
It's booming, and the restaurants are booming.
And six months ago, seven months ago, nobody could go outside.
And even just walking around the White House, people here are thanking me for what I've done.
They're thanking me, they're saying thank you.
I almost know what they mean, because they can walk to work.
And even when they took Uber and they took other forms of transportation, they felt unsafe because the car was hijacked while they're in there.
They take a car, and it's being hijacked as they get into the car, and they did that for safety.
And now we have a safe place.
You know, we've taken 1,500 people out of career criminals have been taken out of Washington, D.C. And we were very nice about it.
unidentified
Mr. President, Mr. President, Mr. President, President of China, we have a bail emergency.
Did you discuss it with the Union Pacific?
donald j trump
I did, I did discuss it, and I don't know I don't want to make a comment on it, but uh Union Pacific is a great railroad, and they want to add uh a railroad that that had a mistake out of a place very close to my heart.
You know, a lot of people say that uh that was a place where uh I I got off to a very good start.
It was a rough thing that happened.
Well, they're trying to buy that railroad that had the problem.
And uh it sounds good to me, to be honest with you.
Sounds good to me.
I'm very big fan of the uh the head of the railroad, the head of the Union Pacific.
He started as a uh very low on the totem pole, started his job very low and became the chairman of the company over a 45 year period.
But I asked him about different cities.
He said St. Louis's tough.
We tell, you know, he sort of stops at many of them.
unidentified
Mr. President, New Orleans.
donald j trump
We have to save New Orleans.
unidentified
New York.
Mr. President, when are you gonna get the right?
donald j trump
We're gonna be going into New York too.
Mr. President, and we're gonna be going in quiet.
You're really obnoxious.
unidentified
I'm not obnoxious, but I'm trying to ask you what about your plans to be.
I'm not obnoxious, but I am asking, what are your plans for Memphis?
Many people want to be able to do that.
donald j trump
I'm not gonna talk to you until I call on you.
unidentified
What are your plans for Memphis?
Who else?
donald j trump
Yeah, go ahead.
unidentified
No, I actually want to uh settle this free speech question because you've said that you were restored free speech in America.
Is that free speech, including for people who are harshly critical of you, for your political opponents, for people who say things you don't like?
donald j trump
You become immune to you unfairly I've been I've become immune to it.
There's never been a person that's had more unfair publicity than me, and that's why your network made me $15 million or $16 million, I believe, to be exact, George Slopadopoulos.
And that's why uh CPS paid me a lot of money too.
Uh and that's why I sued the New York Times two days ago for a lot of money.
Because I, well, I'm winning.
I mean, I'm winning the cases, and the reason I'm winning is because you're guilty, John.
You're guilty.
ABC is a terrible network, a very unfair network, and you should be ashamed of yourself.
NBC is equally bad.
I don't know who's worse.
I think they're equally bad.
Uh and you know, for you to stand there and act so innocent and ask me a question like that.
But look, you're right.
You paid a big price because you were dishonest, John.
The reason I won that lawsuit was because you were dishonest.
You were proven to be dishonest, and so you can't sit back and just say, oh, well, what do you think?
You know, like you're uh some wonderful person.
You're not a wonderful person.
Frankly, you're a terrible reporter.
You know it, and so do I. Okay.
Here's what we're going to do.
Uh, we're gonna talk about something that's gonna reduce our taxes greatly.
That's gonna hopefully bring some great people into our country.
You know, as you know, right now nobody's coming in because we've succeeded in closing, we've closed the border very successfully.
I think you will agree.
We had nobody come in for the last few months.
I mean, it was actually said zero.
Even I can't believe zero, but the numbers are put out by very impartial people or people that have a tendency to be on the left.
And they actually said for the last three months nobody came in.
We have a very strong border.
It's a closed border.
People are coming into our country, but they're coming illegally.
It's a beautiful thing to watch.
But we are doing something where rather than coming into the border, 25 million people came into our country uh doing Biden, one of the saddest things.
The the worst thing, I think look, he was horrible in inflation, he was horrible in just about everything you could be.
I don't think he was good on.
He wasn't even fair on anything.
He was a har it was a horrible administration.
He was the worst president in the history of our country, and we have to mop it up.
The hardest thing that we have to do is to get rid of the criminals that he allowed into our country from prisons, from mental institutions, gang members, drug dealers, and we're getting them out, and we're getting them out fast, and we're making America safe again.
Great again, but we're making America safe again.
And it's an honor to do it.
But this is something this was an unforced error, what they've done.
This is just an unforced error.
So I'm gonna uh ask Howard to speak.
Howard's done a fantastic job, as you know, Secretary of Commerce, and I'm gonna ask uh Howard and Will.
Well, could you just give a quick description of what we're doing and what we're signing, etc.?
And I will do that.
will scharf
So we have two items for your attention Today, sir, uh, a major focus of your administration uh has been shifting the conversation and shifting the policy dynamics around the issue of immigration, closing the border, preventing illegal immigration, uh, but also, as is the case with the executive order in front of you, opening new pathways for truly extraordinary people to come contribute to America instead of taking away from it.
Uh so this executive order is entitled the gold card.
It will set up a new pathway, a new visa pathway uh for foreigners of extraordinary ability uh who are committed to supporting the United States uh for a payment of one million dollars to the U.S. Treasury, or if a corporation is sponsoring them, two million dollars by that corporation, and that will give them access to uh to expedited visa treatment uh as part of this new gold card program.
donald j trump
And one of the biggest problems we have is that people they go to the best schools and they do great and they get great marks, and then they're thrown out of the country.
You're not allowed to stay.
This way, a corporation will be able, sort of like a signing bonus in baseball or football, uh corporation will be able to get them to stay in the country, and I think it's going to be tremendously successful.
Howard, would you say a few words about it, please?
howard lutnick
Sure.
So historically, the employment-based green card program let in 281,000 people a year.
And those people, on average, earned $66,000 a year on average, and they were five times more likely to go on assistance programs of the government.
So we were taking in the bottom quartile, below the average American.
It was illogical.
The only country in the world that was taking in the bottom quartile.
So what we are doing now is we are going to stop doing that.
We're going to only take extraordinary people at the very top.
Instead of people trying to take the jobs from Americans, they're going to create businesses and create jobs for Americans, and this program will raise more than a hundred billion dollars for the Treasury of the United States of America.
donald j trump
Which we'll use for cutting taxes and paying down debt.
We think it's going to be very successful.
Essentially, we're having people come in, uh, people that in many cases I guess are you know very successful or whatever.
And they're coming in, they're going to spend a lot of money to come in, they're going to pay as opposed to walking over the borders, and uh they may come from jails, prisons, and everything else.
These people don't.
They're very productive people, and they're going to pay a million dollars.
The corporation is going to pay two million dollars, and it's going to raise billions of dollars, billions and billions of dollars, which is going to go to reduce taxes, pay off debt, and uh other good things.
So I think it's going to be very important.
unidentified
I did big tax on board with the decision.
You just have to do that.
donald j trump
What's going to be?
Well, what's going on?
I wish you'd speak more clearly, I really give me a give it to me again.
unidentified
I did big tax the CEOs on board with these decisions.
donald j trump
Yeah, big tech, yeah.
Big tech, it's every company.
It's big tech, it's big tech, it's big everything.
unidentified
Okay.
donald j trump
It's a company.
I said it's not a tech company, it's it's tech companies and everything else.
It's uh companies having a hard time uh getting people to be able to stay in the country.
It's very difficult.
Now, if you want to walk through the border, you can have no problem.
People say, well, the best way to come in is walk right through the border, but they can't do that anymore.
Because under our administration, the border is totally closed.
You can only come in if you come in legally, and that's the way it's been, and that's the way it should be.
And we're taking a lot of people out of the country that are here from prisons, from jails, from uh mental institutions, and even insane asylums, people that are crazy.
We're taking them out of the country, we're getting them out of the country because you can't have a country like that.
And uh I tell you, Christy and Tom Holman and all of the people that have worked so hard on this, they've done an unbelievable job.
And I think we're getting great marks for it.
People feel safe.
Uh, Washington, D.C. is just the beginning.
Other, you know, we brought the numbers down in Chicago a little bit by having the FBI in there for the last five months.
We brought the numbers down in Memphis a little bit, but now we're going for the big one.
Now we're gonna go for the big one.
But we set ourselves up very well in Chicago, Memphis, uh, New Orleans a little bit going in early just to see what was happening.
You know, we study it, we're studying the site.
It's sort of like war.
I mean, I hate to tell you it's like war.
Some of these people are really bad.
They're really, really sick people, they're dangerous people, they're killers, they're murderers, drug dealers, and uh can have it.
You can't have a country like that.
It's so beautiful to see at Washington, D.C., that people are walking down the middle of the street and they're going to restaurants, and you are too, and half of you were mugged.
I mean, I I s I don't know if she's here now, I don't see her, but you know, some people were badly mugged that were reporters.
Two of the people right standing in the back of the room were mugged, and uh gonna have that anymore.
And if you look at the the crime stats in Washington, D.C., you have a safe place again.
They were afraid to go to a restaurant because the restaurant would be held up while they're having dinner.
And uh so they'd be mugged going there, and assuming they escaped the mugging, they go to the restaurant and then they're held up.
This is how bad it's been.
unidentified
Yeah?
To follow up on the visa question, I think this may be the next thing that you're signing, but for the H-1B visa actually, That you're doing that.
donald j trump
We'll talk about that.
unidentified
You're very close to the technology CEOs.
Are they concerned about that?
donald j trump
I think they're gonna be very happy.
Everyone's gonna be happy, and we're gonna be able to keep people in our country that are gonna be very productive people, and in many cases, these companies are gonna pay a lot of money for that, and they're very happy about it.
Okay, we'll talk about that next, Sarah.
unidentified
okay My friend, why don't you keep that?
Okay.
Thank you.
donald j trump
Done such a good job.
unidentified
Okay.
donald j trump
It's phase one.
John, are you happy?
unidentified
Sure.
donald j trump
Okay, let's go.
will scharf
Thank you, Mr. President.
One of the most abused visa systems in our current immigration system has been the H1B non-immigrant visa program.
This is supposed to allow highly skilled laborers uh who work in fields that Americans don't work in to come into the United States of America.
Uh, what this uh proclamation will do is raise the fee that companies pay to sponsor H1B applicants to 100,000.
This will ensure that the people they're bringing in are actually very highly skilled, and that they're not replaceable by American workers.
So it'll protect American workers, but ensure that companies have a pathway to hire truly extraordinary people and bring them to the United States.
donald j trump
We need workers.
We need workers, we need great workers, and this pretty much ensures that that's what's gonna happen.
I think Sean, you agree with it?
howard lutnick
Well, they're 100,000 per year.
So the whole idea is no more with these big tech companies or other big companies, train foreign workers.
They have to pay the government 100,000, then they have to pay the employee.
So it's just not economic.
If you're going to train somebody, you're going to train one of the recent graduates from one of the great universities across our land, train Americans, stop bringing in people to take our jobs.
That's the policy here.
A hundred thousand dollars a year for H1B visas, and all of the big companies are on board.
We've spoken to them about the gold cards.
unidentified
They love it, they love it.
donald j trump
They really love it.
They need it.
Go ahead, Sean.
unidentified
Mr. President, it seems like there's two categories of visa programs.
The H1B that a lot of people believe take American jobs, and then the gold card in programs like EB5 that add value in jobs to America.
Is that sort of how you look at the visa program?
donald j trump
Well, ideally, look, if somebody's got the people, they're not gonna want to spend 100,000 as an example on your second category.
So it's not taking jobs.
Uh and we need certain jobs, we need certain skill jobs that we don't have, but uh they won't be taking jobs because you know, ideally the people aren't gonna want to have a creating jobs.
unidentified
So that's why I'm asking.
donald j trump
They're really investing.
unidentified
It seems like you have two categories.
One, it's Secretary Lutnick's the gold card and EB5 that create jobs at investment, and then there's other ones that seem to take, you know, whether it's a J1 and O or an H1B that take U.S. jobs.
donald j trump
Yeah, that's pretty correct.
I mean, I would say that's a correct assessment.
But the main thing is we're gonna have great people coming in, and they're gonna be paying.
I mean, it's it's it's wonderful to say, oh gee, this is we took in 25 million people that look many criminals, jails were opened from Venezuela from many other countries, and they were let out of jail and poured into our country.
Our poor country, how it suffered with this with this stupid president that we had, and the stupid people that surrounded him right around this desk, these liberal, crazy people that have destroyed, they could have destroyed.
If we didn't win this election, our country would have been dead.
Our country was dead.
unidentified
Think of it.
donald j trump
And I've said this the king of Saudi Arabia said, your country was dead one year.
They thought it was dead.
This country couldn't have survived another year of those people running it.
And now we have the hottest country anywhere in the world.
unidentified
Think of that.
donald j trump
And this is gonna help.
And we're taking in hundreds of billions of dollars.
This will be taken in the gold card, we'll be taking in hundreds of billions of dollars.
And companies will be able to keep some people that they need.
You know, they need people of expertise, great expertise.
And it's gonna, I think it's gonna be a fantastic thing.
And we're gonna take that money and we're gonna reduce taxes, we're gonna reduce debt.
We have a very, very strong country.
We we assuming everything works out great with the lawsuit that we have.
We have a lawsuit that's inspired by foreign countries that ripped us off for 25 years.
But assuming we win that, we hopefully win us in the Supreme Court of the United States.
Uh we have a country that no stopping us.
There's no, we're rich, we'll be rich.
We can take care of poor people, we can take care of our military, we can take care of everything.
We can take care of beyond the country, we can help take care of the world.
Uh that we don't just be the same struggle that we've had for years, where uh other countries charged us tariffs and they ripped us off.
Our country has been ripped off more than any country in the history of the world.
And now we are we're doing the what we have to do.
We're taking in billions and billions of dollars at levels that nobody has ever seen, trillions of dollars.
And we're using it to reduce debt, we're using it to reduce taxes.
The great big beautiful bill is a big tax reduction.
It's being paid for by the tariffs, and people are paying a lot less money in taxes.
They're being uh think of it, no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime.
It's an unbelievable phenomenon.
It's it really is, it's the golden age.
We're making it the golden age.
Without the tariffs, it would be impossible.
Uh and China for years charged us tariffs, and they continue to do it, and so do other countries.
Most countries, they charge us, they were ripping.
Look, the European Union, as you know, I get along very well with them, but they ripped us off so badly.
There's never nobody's ever seen anything now.
The European Union is paying us 950 billion dollars, and they're paying us 750 billion to buy our energy, and they're okay with it.
They signed the agreement.
You know, it's not like anybody forced them to do it.
They're okay with us.
Uh, tariffs uh are making our country very rich again, and we'll be able to take care of our debt.
We'll be able to take care of our taxes, lower taxes, we'll be able to take care of Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security.
We're going to be a rich country again.
Without tariffs, we'd be in very big trouble.
unidentified
Mr. President, do you still want Europe to pay 100% tariffs on China?
Excuse me, you HOVs are sometimes used by people already in the country legally on other visas or student visas.
Does this apply to them or to renewals?
Or does it only apply to people applying for the first time from abroad?
howard lutnick
Renewals, first times.
The company needs to decide do they want, is the person valuable enough to have a hundred thousand dollar a year payment to the government, or they should head home and they should go hire an American.
The whole idea, it's annual, and it's for total, it can be a total of six years.
So a hundred thousand dollars a year, so either the person is very valuable to the company and America, or they're going to depart, and the company's gonna hire an American, and that's the point of immigration.
Hire Americans and make sure the people coming in are the top, top people.
Stop the nonsense Of letting people just come into this country on these visas that were given away for free.
President is crystal clear, valuable people only for America.
Stop the nuts.
unidentified
And remember that the country is just the fee, right?
howard lutnick
Yeah.
donald j trump
The country would rather not have to pay a hundred thousand dollars.
But uh they'd rather how do you do that?
You hire Americans.
So there's an incentive to hire an American.
But there may be instances where it's better off doing through expertise or whatever it may be.
But they're both unbelievable where whether it's a gold card or anything else that we talked about today.
And that includes talking about freedom of speech, because our country has been decimated by bad people, very bad people.
People that love crime, they love crime.
Explain it to me.
They don't want to have our military go in and save lives.
But when you go and ask the people, do you mind having the National Guard come in if it meant safety?
They look at the the question like, what's wrong?
What kind of a stupid question is that?
Of course they do.
We want to have we're gonna have a safe country again.
We're not gonna have people shot, 11 people shot.
Think of it.
In Chicago, over a period of six or seven weeks, fifty-five people were murdered.
And then you have a governor saying how wonderful it is.
It's not wonderful, it's a very unsafe.
There's not a place in the world.
You go outside, you go to Afghanistan, you go to different places all over the world that you hear about.
It's 20% of what's happening in places like Chicago.
And you think of them as unsafe.
Mexico City, Mexico City, it's a tough place, dangerous place.
It's the crime rate is lower.
Think of it.
What's happening to our country?
What's that?
We're not gonna let it happen.
And I think I got elected largely for that reason.
So uh we're gonna have a safe country again, we're gonna have a great country again.
We're doing unbelievably, we have the highest stock market in history.
We're the most investment we've ever had ever as a country coming in.
And uh we're very simple.
You know, they said, How do you get elected?
I got elected because I'm gonna make America great again.
That's what we're doing.
We're making America great again.
Thank you very much, everybody.
unidentified
Thank you, Press, thank you, Press.
Thanks, guys.
We've got you right there.
Thanks, guys.
Thank you.
Let's go, let's go right out this way.
Thank you.
Thanks, guys.
Let's go, let's move.
Thanks, guys, for our.
steve bannon
Keep the shot right there, the president of the United States.
We're gonna lose this pretty quickly right there.
Wow, what an oval office.
He signed two executive orders and took all incoming from the world's press, including a couple of mainstream media that they try to give incoming, they got blowback.
ABC News wouldn't want to be at ABC News today, Jonathan Carl.
Jonathan Carl.
Jonathan, you're not a good person, you're a terrible reporter, and your company just paid 16 million dollars.
I think ABC and I think MBC and the reporters are just have to understand one thing.
When you're our CBS, I don't think MBC's paid yet.
Um paid yet.
Get that media matters.
When President Trump threatens to go to court and threatens to sue you, and you sign back a check, whether it's 60 minutes or ABC News, just a note to Jonathan Carl and all the other guys, the guys over at you know Bob Cost and the guys over at CBS.
Anytime you ask him that question, uh, let me give you a heads up.
He's gonna pivot back to the lawsuit.
You admitted guilt, you're a bad organization, you're terrible people, and then boom.
So just make sure that understands coming.
Okay, we got a lot to get to between now and the seven o'clock hour.
I've got a package right here.
We've got the great Nick Sortor, and Nick is gonna join us from I think Turning Point Headquarters in Phoenix, Arizona.
Let's play the package.
I'm gonna bring Nick Sorter in to start the war room.
ilhan omar
It it reminds you that although these people pretend to be um adults, that they are sometimes, you know, they they they think a lot less than even children do um when it comes to compassion, when it comes to uh thoughtfulness, when it comes to being a leader.
Um, you know, I did expect the president's address to the nation would have been a lot more compassionate filled, it would have been less partisan.
Um we he doesn't even know who the assassin is For him to say wing uh lunatic.
Um it it it it I think it kind of denigrated um his status and and the status of of the office he holds.
Um but what what I do know for sure is that you know Charlie was someone who once said um you know guns save lives um after uh a school shooting.
Um Charlie was someone who was willing to debate and downplay the death of George Floyd uh in the hands of Minneapolis police.
unidentified
I think he called him a scumbag.
ilhan omar
Right, have no regard.
Um downplay slavery and what black people have gone through in in this country uh by saying Juneteen should never exist.
Um I think you know the the there are a lot of people who are out there talking about him just wanting to have a civil debate.
unidentified
Uh a complete rewriting of history.
ilhan omar
Yeah, there is nothing um more effed up, you know, like uh than to than to completely pretend that you know his words and actions um have not been recorded and and and in existence um for for the last decade or so.
alexandria ocasio-cortez
Instead of uniting Congress in this tragedy with one of the many bipartisan options to condemn political violence and Kirk's murder, as we did with the late Melissa Hortman.
Instead, the majority proceeded with a resolution that brings great pain to the millions of Americans who endured segregation, Jim Crow, and the legacy of bigotry today.
We should be clear about who Charlie Kirk was.
A man who believed that the civil rights acts that granted black Americans the right to vote was a mistake, who after the violent attack on Paul Pelosi claimed that, quote, some amazing patriot, unquote, should bail out his brutal assailant and accused Jews of controlling, quote, not just the colleges, it's the nonprofits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all of it, unquote.
His rhetoric and beliefs were ignorant, uneducated, and sought to disenfranchise millions of Americans, far from the working, quote, working tirelessly to promote unity, unquote, asserted by the majority in this resolution.
unidentified
I said that the people who are full of were the people who were saying that Kurt was civil.
Thank you all.
No, absolutely.
The person who called for public execution of people he disagreed with is not civil.
The person who said you are a black woman, you lack the ability to process thoughts is not civil.
The person who said because I am Muslim, I cannot be in this country because I want to destroy Western society is not civil.
The person who said a 10-year-old should be forced to carry the child of a rapist.
It's not civil.
Thank you.
I do believe those of you who are interested in rewriting this hateful mass history.
Thank you.
I'm a fool of a ****.
Thank you.
steve bannon
It's Friday, 19 September in the year of our Lord 2025.
President does a one-hour signing of executive orders and over an hour and talking to the press.
We'll get to all that.
The great Nick Sartor joins us, Nick.
I think you're actually over at turning point today in Phoenix.
Um you've done amazing reporting on this.
Drudge the Mac Daddy on Drudge is AOC as uh run in full out, not simply for the Senate, but for the presidency in 2028.
The squad voted unanimously, I think all five of them against the resolution for Charlie Kirk.
Uh, but you've done some extraordinary reporting, sir on Omar of Minneapolis.
Uh, what do you have for us?
Your tweet is on fire right now.
What do you got?
nick sortor
I I I mean, look, I don't know if you saw this yesterday, uh, Steve, but uh Ilhan Omar, after all of these comments that she's made about Charlie Kirk, you know, uh, we're trying to figure out exactly why.
Why could she be upset about that?
And the answer is it's because Charlie was right.
She actually did commit immigration fraud.
We have the proof here that Ilhan Omar actually did marry her brother.
These are records that are they're untouched records from the state of Minneapolis.
That proves it.
Okay.
That there's at this point in time, I don't see there being any reason that the DOJ shouldn't start the process of revoking Omar's citizenship.
It's all right here and proves what we've been saying all along.
She married her brother.
That's immigration fraud.
All with the intention of coming to the United States.
steve bannon
So, Nick, just explain to the audience.
We've put your tweet up and we're gonna blow this clip out.
But what actually do you have?
What does it say?
And it is an official government document.
nick sortor
Yes, it is.
It's taken straight from Hennepin County in uh the state of Minnesota.
And uh the man listed on the form, nobody disputes this at this point.
They're trying to.
That uh that is uh her brother's name that is listed on that document alongside hers, saying that they are legally married, and that was in an effort to to bring for her and her brother to come to the United States uh illegally, and then they divorced later, saying that they had irreconcilable differences.
And I guess, you know, that's that's probably because it was her freaking brother.
So uh look, this is more than just a talking point, Steve.
There's actually substance here.
There's proof for it.
And uh, you know, she she's upset now.
I've got plenty of things.
I was looking back to see what Charlie Kirk had actually said about her and uh and said he called her the ingrate pretty frequently.
Said, quote, Ilhan Omar openly admits that she's fighting for Somalia's interests, not America's.
That's openly clear.
Uh look, I don't know if they, you know, murdering your political opponents is acceptable in Jack Fuckistan or wherever she's from, but maybe she needs to go back there.
That's what she wants.
steve bannon
So Nick, can you hang?
We're gonna take a short commercial break.
I need you to hang because last time we talked to you, you were in the lobby of the Kennedy Center getting ready for the pray vigil.
Now you're actually out of turning point, and it looks like the memorial, the spontaneous memorial.
I want to get your feedback on that.
But real quick question why is this not been acted upon?
If Nick Sorter's got this document, why have we not acted upon this in the first Trump administration or just DHS just act upon this at all?
Why has this been left to Fester?
nick sortor
Honestly, I think in the first Trump administration, they were taking fire from too many angles, and it just wasn't a top priority at the time.
But now we have the mandate, we have the backing, and right now there's no better time to do it because the remarks, the the gross remarks that she is making, glorifying the death of an American hero that the vast majority of Americans have to have a positive opinion on, and the vast amount are looking at a loss for the United States.
This is the time to do it because the majority of people will totally understand at this point.
It doesn't look like it's just an attack on her for being an immigrant.
There's uh there's a political will to back it up at this point.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Nick, just hang on for one second.
Nick Sorter is at the uh the compound, the uh the campus of Turning Point USA.
It's absolutely magnificent in um in uh Phoenix, Arizona.
Short commercial break.
Nick Sorter on the other side, a lot of other surprises for you.
Stick around.
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