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unidentified
Michael Anton from the State Department.
He's just authored the National Security Strategy.
Also in the mix is Mike Flynn and Steve Wetcock.
Can you give us an indication if you're good?
Well, they're all good.
donald j trump
No, we'll make a decision soon.
unidentified
But we're doing very well.
You know, I settled seven wars more than that, I think.
But actually, we settled seven wars.
I have, we're working on Gaza, tough one, but we'll get it done somehow.
donald j trump
And we're also working with Russia and Ukraine.
unidentified
They hate each other so much you wouldn't believe it.
President Putin and President Zelensky, they hate each other to a level that you wouldn't believe.
So they're having a little bit of a problem with that.
And are you considering Stephen Moran for Fed chair?
Too much.
He's doing a great job.
Just got approved.
His vote was a very good one.
The Fed should have done more.
Too late.
Powell is terrible.
He's a terrible chair.
I think it's just terrible.
But despite that, we're powering through it.
donald j trump
We have another record stock market today.
We're very, very high levels, and we're at the highest levels.
unidentified
So we're setting records many, many days during my administration.
We've set records, and we'll see what happens with 50,000.
50,000 is a pretty big number.
Never come close, and we're not so far away from it.
So that's because they see what's happening.
Not so much what's happening exactly right now, but they see all the plants that are being built.
They see the kind of investment that's going to be made.
When you take $17 trillion, so Biden had $250 billion.
We're putting a simpler way, they had much less than a trillion, but they had less than a trillion for four years.
I have $17 trillion for eight months.
Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
And I think they're looking at that and they're saying when those plants open right now, they're being built, a lot of them, and some are starting over the next year.
It takes a while, but we're getting fast permits.
And when those plants get built, I don't think there'll be anything like what we're going to experience.
Mr. President, if I can, on the tough subject of free speech, Ted Cruz compared Brendan Carr to a mob boss, the way he's threatening television stations and saying it's absolutely dangerous for the government to determine which speech is okay and which is not.
What's your reaction to Ted Cruz?
I think Brendan Carr is an incredible American patriot with courage.
donald j trump
You know, it used to be, I remember in the old days that networks would have to get licensed, relicensed, and it was always a big deal.
unidentified
You know, they had to show honesty and integrity.
When you have a network, again, I'll use the same numbers, whether it's 90 or 94 and 97, all different numbers, but when you have networks that give somebody 97% bad publicity or 94% bad publicity, I think that's dishonesty.
And, you know, they're getting free airwaves, right?
donald j trump
You know that, right?
unidentified
You get them for nothing.
donald j trump
These airways, they make millions and millions of dollars.
unidentified
The news makes millions of dollars.
donald j trump
ABC, your network.
unidentified
I mean, your network wrote very badly about me and they had to pay me $16 million.
So you think Brendan Carr has a right to take away the license?
donald j trump
I think Brendan Carr is a courageous person.
unidentified
I think Brendan Carr doesn't like to see the airwaves be used illegally and incorrectly and purposely horribly.
Doesn't like to see a person that won the election in a landslide get 97% bad publicity before the election.
I mean, it's amazing that I won the election with that.
donald j trump
But here's what happened.
The people have given your networks no credibility.
unidentified
They don't give them any credibility, John.
If they did, they wouldn't vote for me.
donald j trump
They wouldn't have voted for me.
unidentified
When you look at, I mean, you could also say the liberal media, the liberal left, when you look at these stories and papers, but we're not talking about that.
donald j trump
We're talking about, I assume you're talking mostly about the networks, but they have a licensing procedure, and you can read it as well.
They have to show honesty and integrity.
unidentified
And when they take a good, well, I think the people decide, that's why I'm president.
When they take a great success, like you often do, and you make it into like it's a loser, or you put a negative spin on it, I don't think that's right.
donald j trump
So I think Brendan Carr is a great American patriot.
So I disagree with Ted Cruz on that.
unidentified
You're going to the UN?
I'll be at the UN.
donald j trump
I'll be making a speech, yes.
unidentified
And are you meeting any other world leaders possibly?
donald j trump
Many of them.
unidentified
Before you meet, Mr. President.
Well, I'm just set up.
What is your goal for attending that meeting?
Will you hope to get out of this?
World peace.
Nobody's done a better job than I've done in World Peace.
donald j trump
Nobody's settled so many wars as I have.
unidentified
You know, I've been here probably a little bit more than eight months, and I've settled seven.
And that doesn't include the destruction of a vast potential nuclear disaster in Iran, which we wiped out, totally, as I say, obliterated.
We obliterated it.
It's been turned right with this beautiful plane right here.
donald j trump
We just ordered some more of them, by the way.
unidentified
The B-2 bomber.
Just ordered some more of the more updated version.
Not that we needed that.
We just need the plane because it was so flawless.
These pilots flew 37 hours flawlessly.
Not an engine problem, not a screw, not a bolt came loose.
It was an amazing, compare that to many years ago, Jimmy Carter.
Same country with the helicopters and the problems and the prisoners and the hostages.
What a mess.
These planes flew 37 hours without a stop.
They fueled up.
We had 52 tankers fueling the planes along the way.
donald j trump
It was an incredible, and every single bomb hit its mark.
unidentified
And then we fired 30 of them from submarines, from a submarine.
What a job that was.
And I don't even include that, but that stopped the war.
donald j trump
That stopped maybe a catastrophic war.
unidentified
Mr. President.
So, you know, so I think that nobody has ever done anywhere near that.
Now, on top of that, we're working very hard to get Russia-Ukraine settled.
We'll see what's going to happen there.
I hope we're going to get it done.
President Xi and I spoke to him about it, and I believe that he really would like to see it done also.
And I think he's going to work with us to help.
What was your message?
On the UN.
What was your message to President Xi on the war in Ukraine?
What are you asking about?
Well, it's the same as his message to me.
He would like to see it done.
He would like to see it.
I believe he would like to see it ended.
Yes, I do believe.
These two wars that you were talking about, Gaza and Ukraine, are escalating at the same time.
You're going to take this stage of the UN back at this stage after these years.
Do you plan to setting any kind of red lines for these two countries?
And you said before, you are frustrated with Putin.
Are you also frustrated with the United States?
We have a long time to go before I get up and speak at the UN because every day is a long time when it comes to Gaza, when it comes to Israel and the Middle East.
So we have a long time to go, but you know a lot of my opinions.
And remember this, you can't forget October 7th either.
People are forgetting October 7th.
donald j trump
They forget it too quickly.
That was one of the worst days in world history.
It was the most evil attack that I think you could really say babies were involved, little babies were involved, having their heads chopped off and all of the things that took place.
unidentified
You can't forget that.
I don't forget that.
A lot of people do, but I don't, yeah, please.
Just a little more, Mr. President.
What goes into retaking Bagram?
Does that require boots on the ground?
We'll see what happens with Bagram.
We're talking to Afghanistan.
It should have never been given up.
It was the most embarrassing day in the history of our country.
There was no reason to give it up.
donald j trump
I was leaving Afghanistan.
unidentified
I was leaving.
donald j trump
I was the one that got it down to 5,000 soldiers, but we were going to keep Bagram, the airbase.
unidentified
I said it yesterday, and we had an incredible trip, as you know, to the UK, and I said it during the press conference.
It's one of the most powerful runways ever built in terms of weight, length, and load, what it could take.
And we just gave it up for nothing.
We gave it up for nothing.
donald j trump
There was no reason to give it up.
unidentified
We weren't going to leave Bagram.
Joe Biden didn't know what he was doing.
We had a man that didn't know what he was doing.
donald j trump
We had a man, by the way, that didn't approve.
unidentified
If you take a look at what's happening in Congress, we had a man that signed everything with almost everything with an AutoPen.
And he didn't tell the people from the AutoPen, whoever was using it.
donald j trump
The one man that used it predominantly said that Biden only spoke to him twice and it was only about the weather.
unidentified
It was about nothing.
So those pardons that he gave are illegal.
donald j trump
He gave illegal pardons.
unidentified
And that includes the congressman that destroyed and deleted all the information from J-6.
donald j trump
They deleted everything because it turned out that they were wrong.
unidentified
It turned out that I offered 10,000 National Guard or soldiers whatever they wanted, and you wouldn't have had a problem.
And they turned it down.
Nancy Pelosi turned it down and the mayor of Washington, D.C. turned it down.
They deleted everything and they destroyed it, illegally destroyed it.
And Biden gave them a pardon.
And Biden gave a lot of other people pardons that, frankly, would be in jail if it wasn't for those pardons.
But those pardons now are illegal, according to just about everybody.
On Letitia James, are you disappointed that the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia has not prosecuted Letitia James?
Do you intend to fire him?
Well, we're going to see what happens.
donald j trump
I am not following it very closely.
unidentified
It looks to me like she's very guilty of something, but I really don't know.
donald j trump
I know that the U.S. Attorney from the Eastern District or from that district in Virginia, that he was approved by two Democrat senators who, in my opinion, are among the worst.
unidentified
And when I learned that two senators, Democrats, because as you know, it's very hard with the blue slip, it's very hard for a Republican to get somebody approved if you have one senator that's a Democrat because of an old custom.
It's not a law, it's a custom.
It's a ridiculous custom.
But if you have a Democrat senator, you have to get that senator to approve.
Well, in this case, we had two.
When I saw that he got two senators, two gentlemen that are bad news as far as I'm concerned, when I saw that he got approved by those two men, I said pull it, because he can't be any good.
So you want him fired.
You want him out?
Yeah, I want him out, yeah.
When I learned that he was blue-slipped through by two Democrat senators in Virginia, people that would never vote for it, people that haven't voted for us for probably years, okay, probably years.
In my opinion, two bad guys.
You know, they are, Warner and Kane.
Two bad guys, bad senators, too.
donald j trump
They do a terrible job for the people of Virginia.
unidentified
But when I saw that he got approved by these two terrible people that haven't voted, they just don't vote no matter what it is, we could give them the greatest deal ever, and they still wouldn't vote.
And they voted for this guy.
And I have other people, judges, and I have U.S. attorneys from other states who have the same situation.
And they can't get approved.
So when I learned that they voted for him, I said, I don't really want him.
Mr. President.
Do you want to get away from the people?
Have you seen the polling, the Gallup poll out of Ukraine that shows 23% less than a quarter of Ukrainians actually support continuing the war against Putin?
We saw the European leaders come here and try to say the world is united for the war effort, but Ukrainians have war fatigued themselves.
Have you seen your thoughts on it?
donald j trump
I don't blame them.
It's a war that never should have started.
It's a war that never would have happened.
unidentified
If I were president, that war never would have happened, ever.
That's a disgrace that that war happened.
donald j trump
And they're losing anywhere from 5,000 to 8,000 people a week on that war, which is the worst since the Second World War.
unidentified
That's a war that should have never happened.
And if you consider it.
It would have never happened.
And it didn't happen for four years.
When I was here, it didn't happen.
Go ahead.
Have you considered cutting funding, even promises made by the Biden administration?
donald j trump
Well, we're not spending any money on the war.
You know, we're being paid for everything we said.
unidentified
Unlike Biden, he gave them $350 billion.
And it's just, it was shocking.
donald j trump
We're not spending any money on the war.
unidentified
The war is being funded by NATO.
NATO is buying our equipment.
In fact, I don't want to make money on that war.
donald j trump
I don't want to.
unidentified
But we are actually making money on that war because they're buying our equipment, as you know.
But NATO, as you know, it's very important, is funding the entire thing.
donald j trump
They're paying for the missiles, for the tanks.
unidentified
They're paying for anything they're sent over there goes to NATO.
And then NATO does what they want with it.
In this case, I guess they give it to Ukraine.
donald j trump
It's a very sad war.
unidentified
It's a war that never should have happened.
Mr. President, could you tell me, is the U.S. government going to take a board seat in the company, and will the U.S. government get a board seat within the company?
Well, we're going to announce it.
Are you talking about TikTok?
donald j trump
Yes.
We're going to announce it.
But it's a great deal for our country.
It's a great deal for all of the young people in the country that wanted it, and people generally.
unidentified
I was happy with it.
donald j trump
Look, I wasn't a fan of TikTok, and then I got to use it, and I became a fan, and it helped me win the election in a landslide.
unidentified
So I think that it's a deal that's going to be great.
And it's also controlled by very powerful and very substantial American people.
By the way, all American people.
Mr. President, a question from Newsmax.
Last year, before you took office, there was an estimated 6.8 million men not actively seeking work of prime working age.
So if you and Secretary Lutnik could talk about the efforts your administration is taking to help our American gentlemen get back to work.
Yeah, well, what we're doing is they're building plants all over the United States.
And frankly, because of tariffs, we're taking in trillions of dollars, trillions of dollars.
And countries that have ripped us off for years, and everyone knows this, countries that have ripped us off for years, like nobody's ever been ripped off before, they're now having to pay up.
donald j trump
They're paying a lot of, they're paying a lot of money to America, and we're reducing taxes with that money, and we're doing things that we were never able to do before.
unidentified
So you're going to have a lot of jobs.
The jobs are being created right now.
And the tariffs, the tariffs are protecting our country.
And we used, you know, tariffs were used against us, but we didn't use them against others.
But we're really better at it than anybody else.
So we've taken in, we will have taken in trillions of dollars.
Nobody has ever seen anything.
Even people that were against the tariffs, now they see the way they're working.
donald j trump
And by the way, with no inflation, with no problem, we're just building up cash, and we're using that cash to reduce taxes, reduce debt, and other things.
unidentified
It's a great thing to watch.
donald j trump
And your honest reporters are saying they've never seen anything like what's happening.
Our country is becoming very rich again only because of tariffs.
unidentified
If we didn't have it, if we didn't have, if I didn't get elected, this country would be, it was a dead country.
donald j trump
Look, we were a dead country a year ago, and now we're the most successful, most vibrant country anywhere in the world.
unidentified
Healthcare helps you.
I see you.
Good to see you on television.
Thank you, sir.
I try.
Tonight, in a few minutes, Steve Bannon will appear on my show.
He floats the idea that you should dual hat Secretary of Treasury Scott Besant, not only as Treasury Secretary, but as interim Fed Sheriff.
Would you be willing to entertain that?
In other words, he likes Scott.
donald j trump
Yes, sir, very much.
unidentified
So do I.
And I like Steve, too.
Would you like to see that in dual holidays?
We could save a little bit of salary.
I think I could maybe make a deal where we just give him one salary.
You know, I have a couple of them.
I don't think you need that.
I have Marco.
No, I don't think so.
We have Marco.
He's got about three positions, right?
donald j trump
He's doing great also.
No, no, I don't think that's going to be necessary.
Actually, I went to Scott and I talked to him about that position, and he loves what he's doing right now.
unidentified
So, you know, he's not in the mix because he loves being Secretary of the Treasury.
Today is the first day of early voting in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
Are you planning on campaigning for Winsom Sears, John Reed, or Jason Moyaris?
Well, I'm going to have to look at some of them.
As you know, it's sort of a semi-local election.
And I've been watching it.
I've been seeing the airs.
I would appreciate it as a Virginia voter.
donald j trump
Who do you like of the group?
unidentified
Who do you like?
The whole tickets.
donald j trump
All of them?
unidentified
You like them?
Well, I'll take a very strong look.
I appreciate it.
For you, I'm going to look.
Secretary Kennedy's panel on vaccine changed its broad recommendations on COVID-19 vaccines today.
Are you comfortable with that change?
Or would you like to see Americans take the vaccines that were developed under your tenure?
Yeah.
Well, the vaccines, according to a lot of people, and if you look at George said, have had a tremendous, you know, Operation Warp Speed.
It was, just according to just about everybody, was one of the greatest things that any president has ever done in this country.
So we're very proud of it.
I'm very proud of it.
I'm also very proud of Regeneron and some of the things that came out of all of the labs and all of the research that we've done.
So I don't know exactly what the final determination is, but I had the vaccine.
donald j trump
I was very happy with it.
unidentified
Here I am, right?
Bobby Kennedy seems to be undoing what you did with.
I'm going to put him in there because I want to have opposite views.
That's okay.
I think we're going to have something very, very big coming up soon on autism.
donald j trump
Autism is totally out of control.
unidentified
And one of the biggest, one of the most important things that, in my opinion, I had to do is to see what's going on with autism.
donald j trump
We're going to have a news conference early next week on autism.
unidentified
And I think you're going to see some things that are amazing that we've learned that somebody else wouldn't have learned.
It's out of control, autism, out of control.
And I think we maybe have the reason why.
But is Bobby Kennedy going too far and unwinding the vaccine?
donald j trump
He's saying for older people.
Yeah, he's saying for older people.
A lot of people agree with that.
unidentified
But I can tell you this, Operation Warp Speed, one of the greatest things a president has ever done for this country.
And you can say the world, because when we came up with that vaccine, the whole world opened up.
But I put Bobby there as somebody that will go either way.
And I want the facts, but I also look at facts from Pfizer, where they spent a lot of money, and the other drug companies, they spent a lot of money on finding out the results after the fact.
donald j trump
The results were amazingly good.
unidentified
I'm wondering if you've seen the video put out by former Israeli hostages.
It's addressed to you.
One is a widow of one that died.
And these are people who are freed thanks to you.
But they're actually encouraging you to force a ceasefire, force Netanyahu ceasefire.
And they didn't address it to him because they think you're the one who might actually listen to them and get it done.
They're worried that the hostages who are still there are more at risk if the war continues.
Your thoughts on that?
donald j trump
They might be.
unidentified
They also, maybe they'll be freed because of that.
You know, you never know how it's going to look.
War, I was saying.
War, a lot of strange things happen.
A lot of results take place that you would never think were going to happen.
As you know, I was able to get most of the hostages out.
We're down to 20.
And we have 32 dead people.
You know that.
We have 32, maybe more, 38, but between 32 and 38 people that were dead, mostly young people.
And I've dealt with some of the parents.
And we got all our Americans out, as you know.
But now we're talking about mostly Israelis.
But I dealt with parents.
I spoke to parents.
And they want the body of their son, believe in almost all cases, sons.
But they want the body of their cherished, beautiful son.
donald j trump
They want the body back as much as though he were alive.
unidentified
It's so sad to see.
But I've dealt with the mothers and fathers.
Please, sir, please, the body of my son, they know he's dead.
And they just want him back.
donald j trump
They want him back as much as though he's alive.
I mean, it's very terrible.
unidentified
And, you know, we have very close to 40 bodies that are included in the whole thing.
But we have 20, probably 20 that are living.
It might be a little bit less because a couple of things.
Look, young people don't die.
Okay, they just don't die.
And they can take a lot, but a lot of people died in these horrible tunnels.
They're mostly in the tunnels.
I know a lot about it.
donald j trump
I got them out.
unidentified
I got them out.
But I always said the last 20, when you get down to the last 10 or 20, it's going to be very tough.
It's a nasty situation.
You can't forget October 7th, but it's a nasty situation, terrible.
Mr. President, the UN concluded this week that Israel committed genocide in Gaza.
What are your thoughts on that?
Well, I haven't seen that.
I'm looking at it, but did anybody commit genocide on October 7th?
What do you think about that?
That was genocide at the highest level.
That was murder, genocide.
You can call it whatever you want.
donald j trump
But little babies were chopped in half.
unidentified
And in Gaza.
donald j trump
Arms were cut off people.
unidentified
Heads were cut off people.
That's genocide.
That's genocide also, I guess.
What do you think, Cornell?
What is that fee for you?
donald j trump
Well, it hasn't been fully negotiated, but we'll get something from the standpoint that we worked hard.
We put up a lot.
We spent a lot of money on letting this come and letting this, you know, it's a very, very big deal.
unidentified
It's a very powerful deal.
And the United States really, I see it.
People were saying, save, TikTok, save, TikTok.
donald j trump
So many people.
unidentified
It's a big thing.
And you know, China can be very proud that they were able to get that started.
And so I very much appreciate President Xi's working with us on that very much.
I'm not sure about Antifa.
What comes next after designating Antifa to a terrorist?
That's what we're going to designate too.
But we're going to look at the people that funded Antifa, see who they are, where they came from, and why they did it.
Have you seen Portland at all?
You take a look at what's happening in Portland.
This has been going on for years.
They're just people out of control.
They're crazy.
We're going to stop that very soon.
We have to get rid of a couple of other problems first.
We're going to get rid of the problems in Memphis where you can't even walk a block without getting shot.
We're going to get rid of the problems in Chicago.
Chicago is a great city, and we have to save it.
We have to save it.
donald j trump
I told you, I had the head of the Union Pacific Railroad in my office, and I said, so what do you think?
unidentified
You go to every city.
You have railroads in every biggest railroad, beautiful railroad.
He's a great guy.
I said, what do you think?
He said, sir, save Chicago.
Don't let it go down.
Save it.
The way he said it was so meaningful to me.
It was so like, it was like terrible.
In a way, it was terrible.
Save Chicago.
Who would ever think that we'd be sitting here talking about saving Chicago?
Chicago's a great city.
donald j trump
They have a terrible mayor.
unidentified
Terrible.
He's at like 5% approval rating.
donald j trump
He's an incompetent person.
unidentified
They have an incompetent governor, in my opinion.
He's incompetent.
Eleven people get shot, and he says crime isn't a good shot.
I mean, they're losing four, five, six people a week, getting killed by bullets, by knives.
And then he says how wonderful it is, Chicago.
Well, it might be wonderful for him.
I think they're afraid.
Look, he's not a stupid guy.
I really believe they're afraid to say, politically, I guess from an ideology standpoint, from a Democratic standpoint, he's afraid.
He is afraid to say the fact that they have a very unsafe, very dangerous city.
He should say, I'm going to call President Donald Trump, and I'm going to ask him to send in the troops, to send in the National Guard and clean this hellhole up.
Because Chicago can be a great city again.
I'll tell you what, Washington, D.C. is a great place again.
It's booming, and the restaurants are booming.
And six months ago, seven months ago, nobody could go outside.
And even just walking around the White House, people here are thanking me for what I've done.
They're thanking me.
They're saying thank you.
I almost know what they mean because they can walk to work.
And even when they took Uber and they took other forms of transportation, they felt unsafe because the car was hijacked while they're in there.
They take a car and it's being hijacked as they get into the car.
And they did that for safety.
And now we have a safe place.
You know, we've taken 1,500 people out of career criminals have been taken out of Washington, D.C.
And we weren't very nice about it.
Do you know what I'm saying?
What do you think?
Mr. Hospital, Mr. President.
Mr. President, did you discuss it with the Union Pacific?
I did.
I did discuss it.
I don't want to make a comment on it, but Union Pacific is a great railroad, and they want to add a railroad that had a mistake out of a place very close to my heart.
You know, a lot of people say that that was a place where I got off to a very good start.
It was a rough thing that happened.
Well, they're trying to buy that railroad that had the problem.
And it sounds good to me, to be honest with you.
Sounds good to me.
I'm a very big fan of The head of the railroad, the head of the Union Pacific.
donald j trump
He started as a very low on the totem pole, started his job very low and became the chairman of the company over a 45-year period.
unidentified
But I asked him about different cities.
donald j trump
He said St. Louis is tough.
unidentified
You know, he sort of stops it, many of them.
Mr. President, when there's a new rally, we have to save New Orleans.
New York.
Mr. President, when are you going to get to the city?
donald j trump
We're going to be going into New York too.
unidentified
Mr. President, we're going to be going in quiet.
donald j trump
You're really obnoxious.
unidentified
I'm not obnoxious, but I'm trying to ask you, what about your plans for Memphis?
I'm not obnoxious, but I am asking, what are your plans for Memphis?
Many people are.
I'm not going to talk to you until I call on you.
What are your plans for?
donald j trump
Yeah, go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, I just want to sell this free speech question, because you've said that you restored free speech in America.
Is that free speech, including for people who are harshly critical of you, for your political opponents, for people who say things you don't like?
Have you become immune to it?
I become immune to it.
donald j trump
There's never been a person that's had more unfair publicity than me.
unidentified
And that's why your network paid me $15 million, or $16 million, I believe, to be exact.
George Slopadopoulos.
And that's why CBS paid me a lot of money, too.
And that's why I sued the New York Times two days ago for a lot of money.
Because I, well, I'm winning.
donald j trump
I mean, I'm winning the cases.
unidentified
And the reason I'm winning is because you're guilty, John.
donald j trump
You're guilty.
unidentified
ABC is a terrible network, a very unfair network, and you should be ashamed of yourself.
donald j trump
NBC is equally bad.
unidentified
I don't know who's worse.
I think they're equally bad.
And, you know, for you to stand there and act so innocent and ask me a question like that.
But look, you paid a big price because you were dishonest, John.
The reason I won that lawsuit was because you were dishonest.
You were proven to be dishonest.
And so you can't sit back and just say, oh, well, what do you think?
You know, like you're some wonderful person.
donald j trump
You're not a wonderful person.
unidentified
Frankly, you're a terrible reporter.
You know it, and so do I.
Okay.
donald j trump
Here's what we're going to do.
unidentified
We're going to talk about something that's going to reduce our taxes greatly, that's going to hopefully bring some great people into our country.
donald j trump
You know, as you know, right now nobody's coming in because we've succeeded in closing.
unidentified
We've closed the border very successfully.
I think you will agree.
We had nobody come in for the last few months.
I mean, it was actually said zero.
Even I can't believe zero, but the numbers are put out by very impartial people or people that have a tendency to be on the left.
And they actually said for the last three months, nobody came in.
We have a very strong border.
It's a closed border.
People are coming into our country, but they're coming in legally.
donald j trump
It's a beautiful thing to watch.
unidentified
But we are doing something where rather than coming into the border, 25 million people came into our country during Biden.
One of the saddest things.
The worst thing, look, he was horrible in inflation.
He was horrible in just about everything you could be.
donald j trump
I don't think he was good on.
He wasn't even fair on anything.
unidentified
It was a horrible administration.
He was the worst president in the history of our country.
And we have to mop it up.
The hardest thing that we have to do is to get rid of the criminals that he allowed into our country from prisons, from mental institutions, gang members, drug dealers, and we're getting them out, and we're getting them out fast, and we're making America safe again, great again, but we're making America safe again.
And it's an honor to do it.
But this is something, this is an unforced era, what they've done.
donald j trump
This is just an unforced era.
unidentified
So I'm going to ask Howard to speak.
Howard's done a fantastic job, as you know, Secretary of Commerce.
And I'm going to ask Howard and Will, Will, could you just give a quick description of what we're doing and what we're signing, et cetera?
And I will do that.
We have two items for your attention today, sir.
A major focus of your administration has been shifting the conversation and shifting the policy dynamics around the issue of immigration, closing the border, preventing illegal immigration, but also, as is the case with the executive order in front of you, opening new pathways for truly extraordinary people to come contribute to America instead of taking away from it.
So this executive order is entitled the Gold Card.
It will set up a new pathway, a new visa pathway for foreigners of extraordinary ability who are committed to supporting the United States for a payment of $1 million to the U.S. Treasury or if a corporation is sponsoring them, $2 million by that corporation, and that will give them access to expedited visa treatment as part of this new gold card program.
And one of the biggest problems we have is that people go to the best schools and they do great and they get great marks and then they're thrown out of the country.
You're not allowed to stay.
This way a corporation will be able, sort of like a signing bonus in baseball or football, a corporation will be able to get them to stay in the country.
And I think it's going to be tremendously successful.
Howard, would you say a few words about it, please?
Sure.
So historically, the employment-based green card program let in 281,000 people a year.
And those people, on average, earned $66,000 a year on average.
And they were five times more likely to go on assistance programs of the government.
howard lutnick
So we were taking in the bottom quartile below the average American.
unidentified
It was illogical.
The only country in the world that was taking in the bottom quartile.
howard lutnick
So what we are doing now is we are going to stop doing that.
unidentified
We're going to only take extraordinary people at the very top.
Instead of people trying to take the jobs from Americans, they're going to create businesses and create jobs for Americans.
And this program will raise more than $100 billion for the Treasury of the United States of America.
Which we'll use for cutting taxes and paying down debt.
We think it's going to be very successful.
donald j trump
Essentially, we're having people come in, people that, in many cases, I guess are very successful or whatever.
unidentified
And they're coming in, they're going to spend a lot of money to come in.
They're going to pay, as opposed to walking over the borders.
And they may come from jails, prisons, everything else.
These people don't.
They're very productive people.
And they're going to pay a million dollars.
The corporation is going to pay two million dollars.
And it's going to raise billions of dollars, billions and billions of dollars, which is going to go to reduce taxes, pay off debt, and other good things.
So I think it's going to be very important.
Big techs.
Are the big techs on board with these decisions?
donald j trump
What's going to happen?
unidentified
I wish you'd speak more clearly.
I really give you it.
Give it to me again.
Are the big tax the CEOs on board with these decisions to install big technology?
Technology.
Big tech.
Yeah, big tech.
It's every company.
It's big tech.
It's big tech.
It's big everything.
donald j trump
It's a company.
I said, it's not a tech company.
unidentified
It's tech companies and everything else.
Companies are having a hard time getting people to be able to stay in the country.
It's very difficult.
Now, if you want to walk through the border, you can have no problem.
donald j trump
People say, well, the best way to come in is walk right through the border.
unidentified
But they can't do that anymore.
Because under our administration, the border is totally closed.
donald j trump
You can only come in if you come in legally.
unidentified
And that's the way it's been, and that's the way it should be.
And we're taking a lot of people out of the country that are here from prisons, from jails, from mental institutions, and even insane asylums, people that are crazy.
We're taking them out of the country.
We're getting them out of the country because you can't have a country like that.
And I tell you, Christy and Tom Holman and all of the people that have worked so hard on this, they've done an unbelievable job.
And I think we're getting great marks for it.
donald j trump
People feel safe.
unidentified
Washington, D.C. is just the beginning.
You know, we brought the numbers down in Chicago a little bit by having the FBI in there for the last five months.
We brought the numbers down in Memphis a little bit, but now we're going for the big one.
Now we're going to go for the big one.
But we set ourselves up very well in Chicago, Memphis, New Orleans a little bit, going in early just to see what was happening.
We study it.
We're studying the site.
donald j trump
It's sort of like war.
unidentified
I mean, I hate to tell you, it's like war.
Some of these people are really bad.
They're really, really sick people.
They're dangerous people.
They're killers.
They're murderers.
Drug dealers.
And you can't have it.
You can't have a country like that.
It's so beautiful to see at Washington, D.C., that people are walking down the middle of the street and they're going to restaurants, and you are too.
And half of you were mugged.
donald j trump
I mean, I don't know if she's here now.
unidentified
I don't see her.
But, you know, some people were badly mugged that were reporters.
Two of the people right standing in the back of the room were mugged.
And they're not going to have that anymore.
And if you look at the crime stats in Washington, D.C., you have a safe place again.
They were afraid to go to a restaurant because the restaurant would be held up while they're having dinner.
And so they'd be mugged going there.
And assuming they escape the mugging, they go to the restaurant and then they're held up.
This is how bad it's been.
I'll follow up on the visa question.
I think this may be the next thing that you're signing, but for the H-1B visa action that you're doing.
It's going to be next.
We'll talk about that.
You're very close to the technology CEOs.
Are they concerned about that?
I think they're going to be very happy.
donald j trump
Everyone's going to be happy.
unidentified
And we're going to be able to keep people in our country that are going to be very productive people.
And in many cases, these companies are going to pay a lot of money for that.
And they're very happy about it.
Okay, we'll talk about that next, Sarah.
Okay, my friend, why don't you keep that up?
Okay.
Thank you.
Did such a good job.
Okay.
It's phase one.
John, are you happy?
Sure.
Thank you.
Okay, let's go.
Thank you, Mr. President.
will scharf
One of the most abused visa systems in our current immigration system has been the H-1B Non-Immigrant Visa Program.
unidentified
This is supposed to allow highly skilled laborers who work in fields that Americans don't work in to come into the United States of America.
What this proclamation will do is raise the fee that companies pay to sponsor H-1B applicants to $100,000.
will scharf
This will ensure that the people they're bringing in are actually very highly skilled and that they're not replaceable by American workers.
unidentified
So it'll protect American workers, but ensure that companies have a pathway to hire truly extraordinary people and bring them to the United States.
We need workers.
We need workers.
We need great workers.
And this pretty much ensures that that's what's going to happen.
I think, Sean, do you agree with that?
howard lutnick
Well, they're $100,000 per year.
unidentified
So the whole idea is no more will these big tech companies or other big companies train foreign workers.
They have to pay the government $100,000, then they have to pay the employee.
howard lutnick
So it's just not economic.
unidentified
If you're going to train somebody, you're going to train one of the recent graduates from one of the great universities across our land.
Train Americans.
Stop bringing in people to take our jobs.
That's the policy here.
$100,000 a year for H-1B visas and all of the big companies are on board.
We've spoken to them about the gold card.
They love it.
They love it.
donald j trump
They really love it.
unidentified
They need it.
Go ahead, Sean.
Mr. President, it seems like there's two categories of visa programs.
The H-1B that a lot of people believe take American jobs.
And then the gold card and programs like EB5 that add value and jobs to America.
Is that sort of how you look at the visa program?
Well, ideally, look, if somebody's got the people, they're not going to want to spend $100,000 as an example in the second category.
So it's not taking jobs.
And we need certain jobs.
We need certain skilled jobs that we don't have, but they won't be taking jobs because, you know, ideally the people aren't going to want to, they're not going to ask.
People are investing in America and creating jobs.
That's why I'm asking.
They're really investing in.
You have two categories.
One, Secretary Lutnick's the gold card and EB5 that create jobs, add investment, and then there's other ones that seem to take, you know, whether it's a J-1, an O or an H-1B that take U.S. jobs.
Yeah, it's pretty correct.
I would say that's a correct assessment.
But the main thing is we're going to have great people coming in and they're going to be paying.
I mean, it's it's it's wonderful to say, oh, gee, this is we took in 25 million people that look, many criminals.
Jails were open from Venezuela, from many other countries, and they were let out of jail and poured into our country.
Our poor country, how it suffered with this stupid president that we had and the stupid people that surrounded him right around this desk, these liberal, crazy people that have destroyed, they could have destroyed.
If we didn't win this election, our country would have been dead.
Our country was dead.
Think of it.
And I've said this, man.
The king of Saudi Arabia said, your country was dead one year.
They thought it was dead.
This country couldn't have survived another year of those people running it.
And now we have the hottest country anywhere in the world.
Think of that.
And this is going to help.
And we're taking in hundreds of billions of dollars.
This will be taking in, the gold card will be taking in hundreds of billions of dollars.
And companies will be able to keep some people that they need.
You know, they need people of expertise, great expertise.
And I think it's going to be a fantastic thing.
And we're going to take that money and we're going to reduce taxes.
We're going to reduce debt.
We have a very, very strong country.
Assuming everything works out great with the lawsuit that we have, we have a lawsuit that's inspired by foreign countries that ripped us off for 25 years.
But assuming we win that, we hopefully win it in the Supreme Court of the United States.
We have a country that no stopping us.
We're rich, we'll be rich.
We can take care of poor people.
We can take care of our military.
We can take care of everything.
We can take care of beyond the country.
We can help take care of the world.
That we don't just be the same struggle that we've had for years where other countries charged us tariffs and they ripped us off.
Our country has been ripped off more than any country in the history of the world.
And now we're doing what we have to do.
We're taking in billions and billions of dollars at levels that nobody has ever seen, trillions of dollars.
And we're using it to reduce debt.
We're using it to reduce taxes.
The Great Big Beautiful Bill is a big tax reduction.
It's being paid for by the tariffs.
And people are paying a lot less money in taxes.
donald j trump
They're being think of it.
unidentified
No tax on tips.
No tax on Social Security.
No tax on overtime.
It's an unbelievable phenomenon.
It really is.
It's the golden age.
donald j trump
We're making it the golden age.
unidentified
Without the tariffs, it would be impossible.
And China, for years, charged us tariffs, and they continue to do it.
And so do other countries.
donald j trump
Most countries, they charge us they were ripping.
unidentified
Look, the European Union, as you know, I get along very well with them.
But they ripped us off so badly.
Nobody's ever seen anything now.
donald j trump
The European Union is paying us $950 billion, and they're paying us $750 billion to buy our energy.
unidentified
And they're okay with it.
They sign the agreement.
It's not like anybody forced them to do it.
donald j trump
They're okay with us.
unidentified
Tariffs are making our country very rich again.
And we'll be able to take care of our debt.
We'll be able to take care of our taxes, lower taxes.
We'll be able to take care of Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security.
We're going to be a rich country again.
Without tariffs, we'd be in very big trouble.
You're able to pay 100% tariffs in China.
Excuse me, if you H-1Vs are sometimes used by people already in the country legally on other visas or student visas.
Does this apply to them or to renewals, or does it only apply to people applying for the first time from abroad?
Renewals, first times.
howard lutnick
The company needs to decide, do they want, is the person valuable enough to have a $100,000 a year payment to the government, or they should head home and they should go hire an American.
unidentified
The whole idea, it's annual, and it's for total.
It can be a total of six years.
So $100,000 a year.
So either the person is very valuable to the company and America, or they're going to depart, and the company's going to hire an American, and that's the point of immigration.
howard lutnick
Hire Americans and make sure the people coming in are the top, top people.
unidentified
Stop the nonsense of letting people just come into this country on these visas that were given away for free.
howard lutnick
President is crystal clear, valuable people only for America.
unidentified
Stop the nuts.
And remember, the country...
It's just a fee, right?
Yeah, to America.
donald j trump
The country would rather not have to pay $100,000.
But they'd rather, how do you do that?
You hire Americans.
So there's an incentive to hire American.
unidentified
But there may be instances where it's better off doing it, through expertise or whatever it may be.
But they're both unbelievable, whether it's a gold card or anything else that we talked about today.
And that includes talking about freedom of speech, because our country has been decimated by bad people, very bad people, people that love crime.
They love crime.
Explain it to me.
They don't want to have our military go in and save lives.
But when you go and ask the people, do you mind having the National Guard come in if it meant safety?
They look at the question like, what's wrong?
donald j trump
What kind of a stupid question is that?
unidentified
Of course they do.
We're going to have a safe country again.
We're not going to have people shot.
11 people shot.
Think of it.
donald j trump
In Chicago, over a period of six or seven weeks, 55 people were murdered.
unidentified
And then you have a governor saying how wonderful it is.
It's not wonderful.
It's very unsafe.
donald j trump
There's not a place in the world.
unidentified
You go outside, you go to Afghanistan, you go to different places all over the world that you hear about.
It's 20% of what's happening in places like Chicago.
And you think of them as unsafe.
donald j trump
Mexico City, Mexico City, it's a tough place, dangerous place.
unidentified
The crime rate is lower.
Think of it.
What's happening to our country?
donald j trump
We're not going to let it happen.
unidentified
And I think I got elected largely for that reason.
So we're going to have a safe country again.
We're going to have a great country again.
We're doing unbelievably.
We have the highest stock market in history.
donald j trump
We have the most investment we've ever had ever as a country coming in.
unidentified
And we're very simple.
donald j trump
You know, they said, how'd you get elected?
I got elected because I'm going to make America great again.
unidentified
That's what we're doing.
We're making America great again.
donald j trump
Thank you very much, everybody.
unidentified
Thank you, Press.
Thank you, Press.
Thanks, guys.
We've got your right there.
Thanks, guys.
Thank you.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Right out this way.
Thank you.
Thanks, guys.
Let's go.
Let's move.
Thanks, guys.
steve bannon
Keep the shot right there.
unidentified
The president of the United States, we're going to lose this pretty quickly right there.
Wow.
What an oval office.
steve bannon
He signed two executive orders and took all incoming from the world's press, including a couple of mainstream media that they try to give incoming.
unidentified
They got blowback.
steve bannon
ABC News wouldn't want to be at ABC News today, Jonathan Carl.
unidentified
Jonathan Carl, Jonathan, you're not a good person.
You're a terrible reporter.
And your company just paid $16 million.
I think ABC and I think NBC and the reporters there just have to understand one thing.
When you're our CBS, I don't think NBC is paid yet.
Paid yet.
Get that Media Matters.
steve bannon
When President Trump threatens to go to court, threatens to sue you, and you sign back a check, whether it's 60 Minutes or ABC News, just a note to Jonathan Carl and all the other guys, the guys over at Bob Costa and the guys over at CBS.
unidentified
Anytime you ask him that question, let me give you a heads up.
He's going to pivot back to the lawsuit.
You admitted guilt.
You're a bad organization.
You're terrible people.
And then boom.
So just make sure that understand is coming.
steve bannon
Okay, we got a lot to get to between now and the seven o'clock hour.
unidentified
I've got a package right here.
steve bannon
We've got the great Nick Sortor, and Nick is going to join us from, I think, Turning Point Headquarters in Phoenix, Arizona.
unidentified
Let's play the package.
I'm going to bring Nick Sortor in to start the war room.
It reminds you that although these people pretend to be adults, that they are sometimes, you know, they think a lot less than even children do when it comes to compassion, when it comes to thoughtfulness, when it comes to being a leader.
You know, I did expect the president's address to the nation would have been a lot more compassionate-filled.
It would have been less partisan.
He doesn't even know who the assassin is for him to say-wing lunatic.
I think it kind of denigrated his status and the status of the office he holds.
But what I do know for sure is that, you know, Charlie was someone who once said, you know, guns save lives after a school shooting.
Charlie was someone who was willing to debate and downplay the death of George Floyd in the hands of Minneapolis police.
He called him a scumbag.
Right.
Have no regard, downplay slavery and what black people have gone through in this country by saying Juneteen should never exist.
And I think, you know, there are a lot of people who are out there talking about him just wanting to have a civil debate.
A complete rewriting of history.
Yeah, there is nothing more effed up, you know, like than to than to completely pretend that, you know, his words and actions have not been recorded and in existence for the last decade or so.
Instead of uniting Congress in this tragedy with one of the many bipartisan options to condemn political violence and Kirk's murder, as we did with the late Melissa Hortman, instead, the majority proceeded with a resolution that brings great pain to the millions of Americans who endured segregation, Jim Crow, and the legacy of bigotry today.
We should be clear about who Charlie Kirk was.
A man who believed that the Civil Rights Act that granted black Americans the right to vote was a mistake.
Who, after the violent attack on Paul Pelosi, claimed that, quote, some amazing patriot, unquote, should bail out his brutal assailant and accused Jews of controlling, quote, not just the colleges, it's the nonprofits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all of it, unquote.
His rhetoric and beliefs were ignorant, uneducated, and sought to disenfranchise millions of Americans, far from the working, quote, working tirelessly to promote unity, unquote, asserted by the majority in this resolution.
I said that the people who were full of were the people who were saying that Kirk was civil.
Thank God.
The person who called for public execution of people he disagreed with is not civil.
The person who said, you are a black woman, you lack the ability to process thoughts is not civil.
The person who said, because I am Muslim, I cannot be in this country because I want to destroy Western society is not civil.
The person who said a 10-year-old should be forced to...
The child apist is not civil.
You are interested in rewriting this hateful man's history.
Thank you.
You are full of...
Thank you.
It's Friday, 19 September in the year of our Lord 2025.
President does a one-hour signing of executive orders and over an hour and talking to the press.
We'll get to all that.
The great Nick Sortor joins us.
Nick, I think you're actually over at turning point today in Phoenix.
You've done amazing reporting on this.
Drudge, the Mac Daddy on Drudge, is AOC as running full out, not simply for the Senate, but for the presidency in 2028.
steve bannon
The squad voted unanimously, I think all five of them, against the resolution for Charlie Kirk.
unidentified
But you've done some extraordinary reporting, sir, on Omar of Minneapolis.
What do you have for us?
steve bannon
Your tweet is on fire right now.
What do you got?
unidentified
I mean, look, I don't know if you saw this yesterday, Steve, but Ilhan Omar, after all of these comments that she's made about Charlie Kirk, you know, we're trying to figure out exactly why.
Why could she be upset about that?
And the answer is it's because Charlie was right.
nick sortor
She actually did commit immigration fraud.
We have the proof here that Ilhan Omar actually did marry her brother.
unidentified
These are records that they're untouched records from the state of Minneapolis that proves it.
Okay.
At this point in time, I don't see there being any reason that the DOJ shouldn't start the process of revoking Omar's citizenship.
It's all right here and proves what we've been saying all along.
She married her brother.
nick sortor
That's immigration fraud.
unidentified
All with the intention of coming to the United States.
So, Nick, just explain to the audience: we've put your tweet up and we're going to blow this clip out, but what actually do you have?
What does it say?
And is it an official government document?
Yes, it is.
It's taken straight from Hennepin County in the state of Minnesota.
And the man listed on the form.
Nobody disputes this at this point.
nick sortor
They're trying to.
unidentified
That is her brother's name that is listed on that document alongside hers saying that they are legally married.
And that was in an effort to bring for her and her brother to come to the United States illegally.
And then they divorced later, saying that they had irreconcilable differences.
And I guess, you know, that's probably because it was her freaking brother.
nick sortor
So, look, this is more than just a talking point, Steve.
There's actually substance here.
There's proof for it.
unidentified
And, you know, she's upset now.
I've got plenty of things.
nick sortor
I was looking back to see what Charlie Kirk had actually said about her and said, he called her the ingrained pretty frequently.
unidentified
Said, quote, Ilhan Omar openly admits that she's fighting for Somalia's interests, not America's.
That's openly clear.
Look, I don't know if they, you know, murdering your political opponents is acceptable in Jack Pakistan or wherever she's from, but maybe she needs to go back there if that's what she wants.
So, Nick, can you hang?
We're going to take a short commercial break.
I need you to hang because last time we talked to you, you were in the lobby of the Kennedy Center getting ready for the parade vigil.
Now you're actually at Turning Point.
It looks like the memorial, the spontaneous memorial.
steve bannon
I want to get your feedback on that.
unidentified
But real quick question: why has this not been acted upon?
If Nick Sorter's got this document, why have we not acted upon this in the first Trump administration or just DHS just act upon this at all?
Why has this been left to Fester?
Honestly, I think in the first Trump administration, they were taking fire from too many angles and it just wasn't a top priority at the time.
nick sortor
But now we have the mandate, we have the backing.
unidentified
And right now, there's no better time to do it because the remarks, the gross remarks that she is making, glorifying the death of an American hero that the vast majority of Americans have a positive opinion on, and the vast amount are looking at a loss for the United States.
This is the time to do it because the majority of people will totally understand at this point.
It doesn't look like it's just an attack on her for being an immigrant.
There's a political will to back it up at this point.
Yeah.
Nick, just hang on for one second.
Nick Sorter is at the compound, the campus of Turning Point USA.
steve bannon
It's actually magnificent in Phoenix, Arizona.
unidentified
Short commercial break.
Nick Sorter on the other side.
A lot of other surprises for you.
steve bannon
Stick around.
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