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Sept. 17, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4785: The Fight For Civilization
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mark mitchell
13:40
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steve bannon
13:58
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brian harrison
03:29
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daniel goldman
03:29
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jamie raskin
02:17
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kash patel
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mike lindell
02:51
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benny johnson
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jamie raskin
Director Patell, before you joined the FBI, you railed against it for covering up Jeffrey Epstein's human trafficking ring.
Let me refresh your memory with this clip.
benny johnson
It has Epstein's list.
They're sitting on it.
That doesn't seem like something you should do.
You're protecting the world's foremost predator.
That seems like an evil thing to do, regardless of who may be embarrassed in the release of that list.
Why is the FBI protecting the greatest pederist?
Um the largest scale pederist in human history.
kash patel
Simple, because of who's on that list.
jamie raskin
So you finished that December 2023 interview with a challenge to the FBI and harsh words for Republicans in Congress for not getting the Epstein files out to the public.
You can see this clip.
kash patel
And let us know who the pedophiles are.
jamie raskin
Put on your big boy pants and let us know who the pedophiles are, you said.
You emphasize that the president and FBI director each had complete authority to release Epstein's client list.
You said Epstein's black book is under the, quote, direct control of the director of the FBI.
Look at this clip.
mike lindell
This is way off the topic.
unidentified
But who has Jeffrey Epstein's Blackboard Black Book?
kash patel
FBI.
benny johnson
But who?
unidentified
That is that I mean there that's under direct control of the director of the FBI.
jamie raskin
All right.
So you were sworn in as director more than 200 days ago.
Now the black book is under your direct control.
So why haven't you released the names of Epstein's co-conspirators in the rape and sex trafficking of young women and girls?
kash patel
The Rolodex, which is what everybody colloquially refers to as the black book, has been released.
jamie raskin
Oh no, you're talking about what the journalist got five years ago?
No, that's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about what you were talking about there.
The black book under the direct control of FBI director.
kash patel
We have released more material than anyone else before.
The Biden administration, Obama administration had the exact opportunities to release this material, and they never did.
And if you are selling the men and women of the FBI not going after child predators, hang on, you said we're not going after child predators.
1,500 child predators arrested this year.
35% increase, 4,700 child victims now.
jamie raskin
Mr. Chairman, I'm going to reclaim my time if you could instruct the witness.
Why have you changed your position?
There you were saying it's under the direct control of the FBI director and all of it should be released.
kash patel
Why are you why did you everything that has been lawfully permitted to be released has been released?
And as I told you, really the investigation was limited.
And let me make something crystal clear.
I never said Jeffrey Epstein didn't traffic other people, other women, and they're not other victims.
This is the investigation we were given from 2006, 7 and 8, and the search warrants from 2006, 7, and 8.
That's what we're working with.
jamie raskin
Wait, have you released all of the stuff that the FBI has seized from Epstein's house?
The computers, the emails, the file cabinets, the documents?
What about the financial records?
Have you released all of that?
unidentified
Everything the court has allowed us to court are you talking about?
kash patel
Three separate federal courts have come in and said that.
jamie raskin
We're talking about the evidence you've got.
It's got nothing to do with what those courts have any idea how the law works.
kash patel
Wait a minute.
Do you want me to break the law in a federal judge's order?
jamie raskin
No, I want you to follow your own word, Director Patel.
You said up there it was under the direct control of the FBI director.
He had the black book.
kash patel
Everything released have direct control over.
We have gone to court.
You have in the case.
jamie raskin
Complete your sentence.
kash patel
Everything you have direct control over, you said have gone to court, and everything we have direct control over.
daniel goldman
He'd like to complete his answer.
jamie raskin
You you began the sentence.
Everything you have direct control over, I, and then you stopped that sentence.
You have released everything that you have direct control over.
kash patel
I have direct control over and can lawfully release.
If you're not familiar with the court orders, that's not my fault.
jamie raskin
Oh, I'm perfectly looking at them.
I I'm perfectly familiar with them.
But how did we prosecute um uh Ghlaine Maxwell?
kash patel
She was she was prosecuted with the investigatory material that was collected from 2001 and 2005 because of the non-prosecution agreements and the court orders on the investigations and search warrants.
We were not able to develop new information.
And oh, by the way, Jeffrey Epstein was out for 12 years, and the Obama and Biden administration did nothing to look at his work, his pedophile network.
If you want to blame me, that's fine.
But now you're blaming the men and women who conducted this.
jamie raskin
You're not keeping your word.
You said that you would release all of the materials on anyone who's not a good idea.
kash patel
Has anyone much more?
jamie raskin
Much, much more.
I'm excuse me, much more is come out in the days since the American people in Congress have been demanding it, but it's coming out in dribs and drabs.
Why don't you just release the entire file as you promised to do?
kash patel
I literally just told you there are multiple federal court orders.
I'm not gonna break the law to satisfy your curiosity.
You didn't join us when we filed court to release the court orders.
You could have.
You have lawyers, you could have shown up, you didn't do that.
jamie raskin
That's a tiny fraction of the material we're talking about.
kash patel
But it's not.
jamie raskin
It is tiny fractional.
kash patel
How do you know that?
Have you seen everything?
jamie raskin
It's all misdirected.
unidentified
The gentleman from California is recognized.
Well, thank you.
steve bannon
Mr. Director, just to be clear, how many of the episodes?
Okay, uh, we're gonna come back.
Uh, I think Goldman's trying to let up cash also.
You see, the Democrats are not talking about and they don't want information about the assassination because they understand that takes you right to the political left.
And this is why they gotta be designated terrorist organizations because Congress is not going to do anything.
Uh the Democrats are gonna block everything.
Um, Mark Mitchell's our guest from Rasmussen polling.
Mark, uh, I appreciate the fact that you have gone and are doing the pick and shovel work that uh other people refuse to do.
There's a up on my getter, if I can tell my production staff, I've posted, I think, under the title, and people on GitHub can see it, direct action, where um someone on Reddit, one of these Reddit channels is talking about Ben Shapiro may be rethinking his college schedule tour, whatever.
And in Reddit, they're applauding it.
They got one of these essential terrorist networks.
They're saying, look, direct action, which means assassinations, is working.
Uh, and we need to double down on that.
We need to drive that because direct action is working.
Talk to us about this this underbelly, the Reddit.
Uh, because President Trump, you know, in in in days gone by, it was also had you had conservatives, you had other people.
I think President Trump actually gave an asked me anything there.
So tell us about it uh and why has it become a cesspool for the very dark recruiting process of these, particularly not just Antifa, but the transgender paramilitary groups, sir.
mark mitchell
Yeah, the reason this sticks out so much to me is because nobody talks about it.
And it's so blatant and it's so out there.
And if, for instance, the FBI wanted to change its priorities and go after the people who are fomenting violent rhetoric on the internet.
This is the very first place they would have gone, and it might have prevented a situation like what happened to Charlie Kirk.
Of course, we find out instead what what was the FBI doing?
Well, it was investigating 92 conservative organizations, including Turning Point USA.
But yes, they stole your public school, they stole the academia, they have taken your mainline Protestant denominations.
They've taken everything to try to radicalize your children, but they've taken the internet too.
And the biggest one is Reddit, and a lot of people don't know this.
It's actually number five most visited URL on the entire U.S. internet.
It is massively huge.
And to understand what it is, 10, 20 years ago, if you had a special interest, you might go to like a bulletin board and you would discuss with other people in that particular community stuff about I don't know, boat building or modding, video games, or all kinds of different stuff like that.
Well, Reddit was launched in 2005, and it has taken all of that over.
It was actually founded by free speech absolutists.
Uh, the CEOs at the time were Steve Huffman, um Alexis O'Hane, and this guy, oh yeah, Aaron Schwartz, who was a free speech absolutist and unfortunately had a little run-in with the FBI, is my understanding.
He's the one that downloaded the JSTAR database and wound up wrapping his car around a tree, is my understanding.
But anyways, this was a growing part of the internet.
It was placed was where people could go to talk about anything.
And so in 2015, a group of people went to talk about Donald Trump there, and they founded the subreddit, the Donald, which became the largest Donald Trump pro-Donald Trump community on the internet.
It grew to officially 800,000 people, making it the third largest political subreddit on the site Reddit.
But it was actually much larger because Reddit went out of its way to suppress the number of subscribers.
The era of the Donald saw a lot of interference from the top of Reddit, then owned by Conde Nast, uh, and then spun off to private owners.
Somewhere along the line, 10 cent Got involved in 2019.
But the Donald was one of the reasons I think that Donald Trump won the 2016 election.
Donald Trump was not a typical political candidate, as you and I both know.
You were there, Steve, and you know the keyboard warriors.
This is where they were.
They were taking new memes, new ideas, new ways to normalize Donald Trump's very different political platform and distribute that information to the front page of Reddit where many young impressionable people saw it and became part of the Trump movement, and then further to places like Twitter.
And this was not like some not like ignored part of the internet.
The people that went there to do ask me anything.
Alex Jones went, Ann Coulter, Kurt Schilling, Donald Trump himself went there and answered people's questions.
Peter Schweitzer, Milo, Roger Stone, Scott Adams, Tucker.
This was a really big deal.
And then what happened after the Trump election, I think a lot of technology companies were like, wow, we can't let that happen again.
And Reddit started cracking down on the Donald.
They started um changing the rules to deboost the post so they couldn't get to the front page.
Uh it got to the point where the CEO actually spoofed one of the users' accounts and edited one of his comments, and they ultimately banned it over a very artificial thing, saying that actually the Trump movement was inciting calls to violence against the police.
Although the problem was that there were all these spam bots going in there and stirring up uh this rhetoric.
But that banning came just months before the 2020 election.
This was the largest pro-Trump community.
I think it is essentially election interference.
And it came uh with within a year after Tencent took uh a very significant minority stake in the country uh company.
No, I haven't heard anybody ask questions about what went on there.
Why did the Reddit shut down the Donald?
Now the way it operates is you have all these omonymous moderators.
That's the way Reddit shields themselves from uh, you know, gives themselves Section 230 immunity.
And these moderators can enforce ideology.
And so on the major political subreddits, like our politics, who now has uh like seven or eight million subscribers, millions of people go there a week.
This is where young people go.
They go talk to their friends at public school, and their friends are like, oh, yeah, I'm into Pokemon, or I'm I'm into Fortnite.
Well, now the biggest Fortnite community on the internet is at Reddit.
And once you get onto Reddit, the ideology is going to be enforced from the top down because these moderators moderate multiple subreddits and with an iron fist will not allow you to question the liberal progressive orthodoxy.
They will not.
I've been kicked off of subreddits, totally unrelated, just because of arguing over chromosomes.
And so that's the way it rolls.
And the this isn't like the bulletin boards where you're buried into your one community.
People cross-pollinate.
There's uh adjacent communities, and what what happens is increasingly people wind up being radicalized.
Now, I'll just read some of the things off of the main political subreddit.
And again, we don't know who any of these moderators are.
They could be foreign adversaries, they could be WEF types, they could be new world order folks, they could be the KGB.
We really don't know.
They could literally be the CIA.
I don't even know if Ratcliffe would know it.
Here are just some headlines from the last week.
The Kirk crackdown is underway.
No, I won't be shedding any tears for Charlie Kirk.
No, let's not forget who Charlie Kirk really was.
House Republicans threatened to cancel anyone who disparages Charlie Kirk.
On Charlie Kirk show, J.D. Vance talks of crackdown on liberal groups.
Charlie Kirk didn't shy away from who he was.
We shouldn't either.
Let's be honest about Charlie Kirk's life and death.
It's all excusing, blaming, pointing the figure, and shifting it.
This is the key part of their narrative flywheel.
It's not Blue Sky.
It's not these little Discord groups.
Now, what happens is they'll go on a subreddit and they'll see, oh, my subreddit has a Discord group.
And all of a sudden, you're in probably a radical leftist sleeping cell.
But these things are wide open.
There is a subreddit for anti-fascists of Reddit.
He has 118,000 subscribers.
Very active subreddit.
Now, if I could just read a list off of some of these absolutely like crazy ones, it just goes on and on.
steve bannon
There's subreddit Mark Mark Mark, Mark, Mark, hang on a second.
I want to hold you to the break.
unidentified
I want people to hear this.
steve bannon
You're 100% correct.
What we call the pepes, Cernovich and the Pepes.
This was one of the major platforms.
It's one of the most significant social media, Facebook, Reddit, others were one of the major reasons President Trump got traction and uh and won in 2016.
And the uh Mike Benz and Darren Beattie have done an amazing job of explaining what the tech companies did when they were so shocked.
Remember, they had those they had those uh struggle sessions with themselves, how they allowed Trump to win, and they came down in uh and uh you know, crashed us, crash everybody.
This is why it upsets me knowing that Zuckerberg sits at the right hand of President Trump in the uh in the uh dining room, you know, that huge uh tech bro a feast.
No guy should that guy should be in prison.
Not sitting there with President United States anyway.
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unidentified
I got American.
I got American pain.
America.
daniel goldman
Mr. Patel, does Donald Trump appear anywhere in the Epstein files?
kash patel
I'm sorry, could you say that again?
daniel goldman
It's not a complicated question.
Does Donald Trump appear anywhere in the Epstein files?
kash patel
I didn't say it was a complicated question.
I just didn't hear you, so my apologies.
Um we have released uh where Mr. Where President Trump's names in the Epstein files and everybody else, um, and all credible information that we are legally allowed to release has been released.
daniel goldman
All right, so let's go through that.
You're you're referring to court orders that prohibit you from releasing grand jury testimony under Rule 6E.
Is that what you're referring to when you say is the law allows?
kash patel
That's a piece of it.
daniel goldman
Really?
What other what other evidence does the do those three court orders you cited pro f prohibit from being released?
kash patel
Information that was collected pursuant to those search warrants that were limited in fashion.
daniel goldman
Wrong.
That's not what the court order says, and that's not under 6E.
kash patel
And you're talking, and I said that's 6E, and I said there was others, and I'm answering that.
There are sealed court order documents, there are protective orders for the documents.
daniel goldman
They are unsealed as part of discovery given to Ghilaine Maxwell.
They are no longer sealed.
kash patel
That's just not true.
We can argue about it all you want.
daniel goldman
Okay, well, you agree that there are so you're waiting your testimony here is that the reason why you are not releasing all of the videos that you have acknowledged, there are so many, and that the FBI spent thousands of hours of reviewing the photographs, all of the and the photographs that you have.
You're saying that though you're not releasing those because there's a court order requiring them to be sealed.
Is that your testimony?
kash patel
Never said that about the videos.
And the totality of the videos of the thousands of images that were seized pursuant to the search warrants executed at the time, the overwhelming majority of that video is pornographic material that was downloaded from the internet and child sexual abuse material.
We will never release that.
daniel goldman
Well, as you should not release the victims, but if there are videos that relate to others who Epstein trafficked to, such as maybe Prince Andrew or photographs, that you have total control to release.
Yes, and if it exists so why haven't you released it?
kash patel
Why are you supposing that that is a fact when in fact it is false?
Are you saying that's the same thing?
daniel goldman
None of the videos relate to anything relevant to the Jeffrey Epstein trafficking.
kash patel
Every single video that we have collected pursuant to the prior search warrants has been examined for the last 10 years, and every single video has been utilized for whatever prosecutions were able to be legally brought.
daniel goldman
I'm not asking about prosecutions.
I'm asking about why you aren't releasing the full Epstein files, including the names of people who were involved in the sex ring that you promised to do before you became FBI director.
kash patel
I just told you, I'm not gonna release downloaded porn of the city.
daniel goldman
I'm not asking about that.
Fine.
I'm asking about all the other files.
kash patel
What other videos?
Tell me.
Tell me.
daniel goldman
You're so that's what I'm asking.
kash patel
Tell me.
daniel goldman
You're saying there are no videos that would be relevant to anyone else involved in the Jeffrey Epstein sex.
kash patel
Pursuant to Mr. Acosta's collection of information based on the search warrants.
That's all we have in our possession.
daniel goldman
And I'm I'm asking you, but that stuff.
kash patel
That's all we got.
daniel goldman
I'm not asking all you got.
I'm asking you in that stuff.
There's nothing that's related to the uh to any other sex traffic, any other people engaged with Epstein in underage sex.
kash patel
That's correct, to my knowledge, no.
daniel goldman
Okay.
Let's talk about the witness interviews.
302s of witness interviews.
Those are not subject to the court order.
Those are not subject to any fictional sealed order for a search warrant.
Why aren't you releasing those with the redacted names of the victims?
kash patel
We are releasing as much as legally allowed.
That's why we went back to the city.
daniel goldman
Well, how is that?
How is that not legally allowed?
kash patel
Sir, do you know how court orders work?
Do you know how protective orders are?
daniel goldman
Actually, no, sir.
Mr. Patel, I was a prosecutor, a real prosecutor for 10 years.
I know exactly how I was afraid and I want to understand what the court order prevents you from releasing witness statements that the FBI took.
kash patel
You should know that as a real prosecutor when the court hand downs a protective order and a motion to seal the material is sealed, unless that's the same.
daniel goldman
Your testimony here is that all of those witness statements are under a court order, a protective order.
kash patel
We are providing everything we can legally provide.
daniel goldman
No, that's not my question.
My question is why are those witness statements that are not grand jury testimony that if they were under a protective order are no longer under a protective order?
Why are they not being released?
kash patel
How are they not under protective?
daniel goldman
Why are you not going to the court like you did for the grand jury testimony to unseal those records?
kash patel
The DOJ did go to the court.
daniel goldman
No, not on those records.
Why aren't you going?
You just went on grand jury.
You are hiding the Epstein files, Mr. Gentleman is expired.
You are part of the cover-up.
kash patel
Can I respond?
unidentified
You sure can.
kash patel
Any allegations that I'm a part of a cover-up to protect child sexual trafficking and victims of human trafficking and sexual crimes is patently and categorically false in the work of my FDA.
daniel goldman
So I hope you will talk to them when they have requested to speak with you.
Because the victims have requested and you are not responding to them.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
As you can see there, these are not normal congressional hearings.
Yesterday with the Senate in cash, today in the House.
You know, these are star chambers.
Just keep that in mind.
And this is why I am strong advocate that we have to get ahead of some of these things by being much more aggressive because the Jamie Raskins of the world on everything that we're working on is not is not.
This is not about, oh, let's come together.
Do you see unity?
Is any unity is unity coming through the screen?
You should be watching.
Also, if we can put up on uh Grace, make sure we get these up on some people we're streaming that people can see, but the CDC is almost as bad.
Uh I want to go back to Mark Mitchell.
Mark, before you read it, just one more time.
Um the big tech companies control so much in the country, they've allowed this to be turned into a cesspool that's now recruiting uh apparatus for a uh for a paramilitary terrorist or uh operation organization.
And you're seeing this in the radicalization, not just Antifa, which is uh taking over Portland, Oregon to stop the ICE agents from uh doing uh deportations of criminals.
You've seen it in these radical uh trans groups that have really built militias through uh platforms like Reddit.
Am I correct in that?
Yes, sir.
mark mitchell
100%, and the feds don't care.
While they were rounding up MIMAs on the Capitol steps, this was blowing up on the internet, and now Reddit, the fifth biggest website in the U.S. is essentially a monoculture that assimilates young people into socialistic anarchist, uh pro anti-fascist with the smattering of degenerate porn.
Like that's what the these young people are having thrown in their face in early teenagers.
I'm looking at uh the subreddit for anarchism right now.
It's got almost 300,000 subscribers, and the resource links on the side, there's a lot of them.
What is anarchists?
A frequently asked question.
The anarchist library.
Oh, and what's this?
Two links, two onion links to the dark web for a site called Rise Up and Rattle.
Like, what are those?
And does the FBI know about those people?
Are they entrapping those people like they did with these people that they said tried to kidnap Governor Gretchen Whitmer?
The FBI's probably got their hands so far up every militia's rear in the U.S. And it I it would appear that these things are completely, and you know what?
It's also been alleged that Reddit is one of the most um common places to find uh federal government employees because Reddit was blowing up back when Elon Musk was firing all those people.
So nobody's looking at it, they should have looked at it.
Not very many people have been saying it.
I've been saying it.
I think Reddit, it's a massive thing, and it's got uh a stake by the Chinese.
Maybe they divested some of it back when it IPO'd.
This thing's like 45, 50 billion dollars in market cap now, 1.3 billion in advertiser revenue.
They probably got advertisers threatening to pull their ad money if they don't crack down on conservative speech.
Every place that young people learn their cultural values now has been completely manipulated for the left, and uh it's gonna fix itself if Trump can't fix it for us.
steve bannon
Um what needs to be done?
What does President Trump and the FBI director need immediately, particularly in that this can lead to because let me be blunt.
I I went on a rant yesterday, almost in the second hour of the evening edition, because I don't believe the script that was put out uh by the text messages.
It's it's almost ridiculous to expect us to believe it.
A young guy who's just killed somebody uh that he's not particularly an expert in, has killed somebody, shot him.
It's world news, and he's writing a thing, you know, poetically saying, oh, uh you know, hate can't be negotiated with uh it just the whole thing's phony.
The whole thing's like a bad Hollywood script.
So what should be what should be done here, sir?
mark mitchell
We've always had public crime cases like this.
We had people looking at the O.J. Simpson case, but what's the difference between now and then is that nobody trusts the federal government?
And I've been saying this forever.
You can't just slap a new leader at the top of a completely corrupt organization and expect Americans to just forget about how it was weaponized against them.
And as far as I know, I haven't seen stuff out of the federal government that proves to me that root cause and corrective action questions have been asked and uh uh people have been fired and rounded up for the things that they perpetrated against the American people.
And now, are the people asking for that?
No, they don't understand.
But when they see something like the Epstein stuff, they're like, wait, something stinks.
And so, yes, they will mistrust you as well and not believe what they perceive to be lies.
Because we I said this on July 10th, the polling came back on Epstein, and I said, This is not going away.
Only 16% of America agrees with Pam Bondi that the case is closed.
They're not just gonna trust me, bro, with the Trump administration.
And so until we see true institutional uh restitution, grievance of uh uh uh you know, redress of Americans' grievances over how the Obama or the Biden administration, and you know, Obama as well, weaponized the federal government, created literally a regime.
You talk about unity, unity died in Joe Biden's winter of death, his cold winter of death.
And so we're past that.
And the thing now, the reason it's so dangerous, you brought it up to me in between the break, is that this polling about Charlie Kirk is really explosive.
America is going to start changing very rapidly now because I think they're coming to a realization, and again, Trump's approval's doing fine, it's actually up to negative two.
steve bannon
Hang Mark Mark Mark Mark, hang on a second.
I want to get to the polling.
I got Brian Harrison in Texas.
A lot going on and juggling a lot.
Including juggling some stuff behind the scenes, which we'll tell you about short commercial break.
You're in the war room, Mark Mitchell, Brian Harrison.
unidentified
Back in a moment.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Right there, Charlie Kirk's um the Scottish Pipes.
Uh, as you know, Warren would love to play all of this.
We would love to do this nonstop.
But right there, which is uh, you know, some of the best parts of Western civilization, Christendom is now under assault.
Over a million people in the streets in London over the weekend to protest the the fact that the highest and best of our civilization is being thrown aside now.
Compare that, compare the beauty of that and the uh the majesty of that.
Compare that.
That's a state visit reviewing the troops.
That's President Trump with the King of England, King Charles, something President Trump has looked at.
unidentified
Yeah, keep those pipes up.
steve bannon
The problem is Western civilization, we're at inflection point, folks.
All of that it's gonna be all kicked into the dustbin of history.
The Judeo-Christian West hate Christendom, hate our civilization to the marrow of their bones.
And they're doing something about it.
You know what they're doing?
They're attacking every institution we have.
So say a fond farewell to that unless we shut down these demons that are trying to destroy us.
That's the heart of this fight.
It's the heart of the MAGA movement.
And you're either with us or you're against us.
Let's go now to um God, the music's so amazing.
I'd love to stick with it, but I gotta get back.
Mark Mitchell, tell me about fact.
And before I get to Mark and the polling, I want to go to Texas, because this gets to the heart of it.
The great state of Texas, its development, its founding.
The great pioneer.
You've ever been to Texas and you think about people back in the 1840s, 1850s, 1860s, with the Comanches and everything and the Mexicans, everything down there.
And those those brave pioneers went, and look what they've they've made Texas into one of the great economic powerhouses in the world.
But the rot, the rot that's gonna throw it all away, is there, and it's systemic and it's institutional.
You know, Abbott's being a tough guy throwing these kids out of uh college.
By the way, they should.
They're sitting there doing all this kind of uh things about Charlie Kirk that are just not acceptable, but he's being a tough guy there, but he's financing this.
He, Abbott.
Okay, is the governor.
Another gutless, one of these gutless uh Republicans.
Brian Harrison, tell me what's going on in Texas at the university level, sir.
brian harrison
No, and I think it's so important what you highlighted there at the top, and what what are the stakes right now?
What are we in a battle for for?
And the reality is we're in a battle for nothing less than the future of Western civilization, the ideas of the American revolution, of freedom, of individual liberty, of self-governance.
And here's what's perhaps the most infuriating and frustrating thing about all this right now, isn't that they're gonna beat us with organic forces or because there's more of them on the left than there are of those of us on the right.
They're gonna defeat us on the current trends.
Now I think we can stop this, but but if they're gonna defeat us, it's going to be because of complacency and because of people who are elected Republicans who have the power to stand up and stop it, choosing not to.
And Texas is the line in the sand, the Texas ethos of freedom and liberty and westward expansion and pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and believing in God and having faith in family and freedom.
We should be the tip of the spear on this.
And instead of that, it's not just this organic, woke mind viruses, Elon call it, this leftism, this progressivism, socialism, this Marxism, that it's it's not just infecting our the minds of the next generation organically, or because the idea is superior to what our founders believed in,
but because weak establishment, so-called Republicans, are taxing 30 million Texans out of their home to fund literally everything that Charlie Kirk dedicated his life to defending, and this includes highly dangerous transgender indoctrination.
It came out yesterday the school.
You have Greg Abbott's talking to the big game.
Oh, I got a kid expelled from Texas State University, Texas State University.
But what he's not telling you is his regents right now at Texas State University have an entire course on transgender resistance, on transgender justice.
We're training at taxpayer expense, possibly the next generation of domestic terrorists and of trans assassins.
Texas AM university, my alma mater.
I love Texas AM.
Greg Abbott's Regents hired a leftist progressive former Barack Obama official to be the president.
And over the summer, when a brave conservative student stood up and objected in her children's literature class to being enforcibly indoctrinated in extreme transgender ideology, including the gender unicorn.
She was kicked out of class by this Marxist professor, told never to return.
And when President Welsh at Texas AM University found out about it, we've got him on undercover uh audio.
He mocked the student, he berated the student instead of cleaning house and firing the department head, he chose to engage in a cover-up, threatened the student, berate her, and quite frankly, if elected Republicans in Texas can't clear out the rot, the deadwood, the people that are forcing this woke mind virus cancer onto the next generation of Texans, shame on them.
Governor Abbott should have fired President Welsh and every other leftist indoctrinator and every other public university in Texas, and quite frankly, he should have done it 10 years ago.
The battle is on for the future.
And there are elected so-called Republicans who have it within their power right now to stand up and stop it.
And they're choosing not to, and I'm gonna continue exposing it, and we need the posse guys more than more than ever now on this one.
steve bannon
Harrison, uh, the social media, particularly your uh Twitter feed is on fire.
It's kind of the associated press of uh Texas news about this battle for Western civilization.
Where do folks go?
brian harrison
Well, sadly, it's the only Place to find out about the truth about the corruption in Austin.
Brian E. Harrison on X at Brian E. Harrison, Brian E. Harrison on Hex on X, light up the so-called Republican governor uh governorship uh in the state of Texas, Greg Abbott, and the Texas AM University Regions, fire President Welsh, fire every other liberal indoctrinator that's poisoning the minds of the next generation.
steve bannon
Brian Harrison, thank you.
You're a warrior.
Thank you, sir.
brian harrison
God bless you, Steve.
God bless you.
steve bannon
Tommy Robinson, they called Tommy Robinson, Tommy Robinson, like uh they said the other day, you couldn't mention his name, or you'd be banned Ben Harner will tell you that.
Who's fighting more for Western civilization?
King Charles?
And look, I love the the pageantry of it, the history of it.
President Trump does.
It's it's a great day over there for President Trump and folks in the you know in the United States.
But we gotta there, there is a battle, a war for Western civilization right now.
And a street thug, one of these lads they call him, the soccer lads, Tommy Robinson, in and out of jail because he's been fighting it.
Uh the Islamic, uh, the radical Islamic movement taking over London, right?
Why is President Trump not in London?
Why is he out in Windsor?
Gotta ask the question.
Why is he doing it at checkers?
Why is he not going in and doing going to parliament?
Why?
Because they know there'd be huge riots down there.
Why?
Because they're close to civil war.
Why?
Because they've allowed their country to be taken over.
Sadiq Khan is sitting there trashing, just saying, oh, everybody showed up on on Sunday was uh on Saturday, we're just white nationalists.
Uh Mitchell, you've got some polling that's pretty shocking.
Tell American people uh what's the American people say right now about this assassination and violence in the country?
mark mitchell
Yeah, let me say I'm half English too.
It breaks my heart.
I still train my kids with the longbow on Sundays.
I bet most Englanders don't even know what that means.
Yeah, you you put me on to this.
You told me to read the fourth turning, and it opened my eyes to a lot of stuff.
And I think we're in the ek porosis phase, and I've been looking for signs that institutions are finally crumbling, and American society is going to wake up and correct these problems itself.
It's almost like Trump was elected, and a weight was collectively lifted off of people who aren't Republican, aren't conservative, but just want a return to normalcy.
They want their government back, they don't want this spending orgy, they don't want to have their throats slit on public transit.
Those are the people that voted for Donald Trump.
And the second he got into office, right direction shot up through the roof, it was the highest in our polling.
It's still above 40%.
It's been there.
I mean, it's just absolutely incredibly record-breaking.
How many weeks has it been before Donald Trump?
The other biggest string we had was seven weeks in a row, and that was also during Trump's first presidency.
And so America was happy.
And I think the problem is is that we're starting to realize now that there are just some things that are too big for Donald Trump to fix.
And history tells us that who fixes those problems?
Society demands those problems to be fixed.
And when that happens, it usually comes with a very rapid change in public opinion, which is well why I'm looking and why I'm trying to ask questions that measure this stuff.
And I think we got a big one.
You you brought it up to me.
I think this is absolutely huge.
How concerned are you about political violence in America?
69% very concerned.
That's more than inflation, by the way.
21% somewhat concerned.
So that's like everybody.
On any concern about an issue ever.
So all of America is paying attention.
They probably most of them don't know who Charlie Kirk was.
They are all incredibly concerned about political violence now.
And Democrats are actually more very concerned than Republicans.
74% very concerned, 66% of Republicans.
Uh, but for both of them, it's like 90%.
Everybody, uh every age, race, color, creed.
I mean, everyone.
Recently, a gunman in Utah shot and killed conservative activist Charlie Kirk.
How likely is it there there will be more political violence in the next few months?
48% very likely, 37% somewhat.
So that's 80, 85 percent, including 87% of Democrats, 87% of Republicans, more Democrats than Republicans say it's very likely.
That's a really bad signal.
Like literally everybody agrees that this is coming.
Only one percent say there it's not at all likely there are going to be more political killings.
But then the big one, Trump, the day after the Charlie Kirk assassination went on Fox and Friends and had a great quote.
So we poll tested it.
It's long past time for all Americans and the media to confront the fact that violence and murder are the tragic consequences of demonizing those with whom you disagree day after day, year after year, in the most hateful and despicable way possible.
So Trump was calling, blaming the media.
86% agree.
steve bannon
Mark, Mark, Mark, hang on one second.
We're gonna take a short break.
Back in a moment.
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Let's take down the CC.
He was your host, Stephen K. Back.
steve bannon
You talk about Texas.
So that's the juxtaposed position today.
We have the pomp and ceremony in in London.
And we had Tommy Robinson on the streets with over what one or two million uh Britons.
Uh, and uh they're showing the flag of St. George or the Union Jack all over.
That's their patriotism.
It's to save that pomp and circumstance, that ceremony.
Uh, if we don't fight, that's all gonna collapse.
You'll never see that again.
The great um customs and norms of uh Western civilization.
You see what's happening in Texas?
If you know how Texas was uh was founded and built, it's it's it's uh unbelievable.
It's one of the most incredible stories, the American West.
Those of you who've had a chance, or if you have not, one of the best things you ever do is just get in a car, take the kids, just go for some just take a couple weeks and drive on the vastness of the West, how it's developed.
It's just extraordinary.
It's breathtaking.
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Mark Mitchell, your polling's extraordinary.
Uh, can you uh give us your closing uh thoughts, sir?
And where do people get you your coordinates?
mark mitchell
I think things are heating up, I think they're changing fast.
86% of the country agrees that this was caused by political rhetoric, even a majority of Democrats.
There are going to be a flood of Republican registrants now.
My call to John Thune and Mike Johnson is give these people a reason to vote for you, not just prayer vigils.
I think Americans want actions, and I think if Trump can't fix this, then the fourth turning tells us that society is gonna fix us.
Uh, I hope people can come follow me at honest polster on Twitter, Rasmussen underscore poll.
And we also do videos on YouTube, Rasmussen underscore poll.
steve bannon
Now you've inspired me.
I think what we got to do is have a whole uh hour, maybe an evening show, the five and six o'clock, to talk about the fourth turning and how it how why we're in it, what is it, and what it all means.
So uh, Mark, thank you so much.
Thank you for taking the time today to join us for the show, entire show.
mark mitchell
Great to be here.
steve bannon
Mark's stuff.
He's uh not just one of the best pollsters out there, one of the smartest guys around.
Uh Mike Lindell, uh, it now is quite obvious that they put the records out that the FBI, the reason they got your phone is because of the work you as a patriot did to um tried to combat the big steal of uh you know, the big steal of the election of 2020.
And I like for Marco Rubio, you know, Marco Rubio now got us.
We're close to going to war down in Venezuela, and he's yelling and screaming at these people.
You can't say Madara's uh uh a president because he uh he's not elected, he stole his election.
Bro, I don't exactly remember you at the front lines with us, fixed bayonets when uh when uh Biden stole the 2020 election.
Exact same thing.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
So I don't want to hear everybody yelling and screaming about Madara, who's a super bad guy.
But don't tell me he's illegitimate because yes, it was stolen down there when you weren't with us on the big enchilada, the one that mattered, Biden stealing it, and and and Mike Lindell was, and that's why they came after him to destroy his company, destroy his employees, and destroy him personally and put him in prison along with Peter Navarro, Stephen K. Bannon, Tom Barrick, uh, and potentially uh uh uh Donald J. Trump and Mike Lindell.
What do you got for us, brother?
mike lindell
Yeah, it was over Steve.
It was the FBI, the DOJ, and four other agencies.
It all came out yesterday, everybody.
It was under the code name Arctic Frost.
You guys can Google that right now.
I'd say they went after Turning Point, Charlie Kirk, uh Rudy Giuliani.
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So they went after where I banked.
Everybody remember when my pillow got debanked, not once, but twice.
This is all it was all a planned attack, and they attacked me because I wanted to secure our elections.
I spoke out about the 2020 stolen election, and uh, so what is my pillow had to endure?
Not just lawfare from a voting machine companies, but attacked by our own government, Steve.
It's absolutely despicable.
steve bannon
Uh Mike, we got to keep the company going.
The way we do that is sell these amazing products that you have.
What do you got for us today?
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The war and posse is not going to back down.
They understand we're in a fourth turning.
Our institutions are collapsing before us, and they're gonna fight to the bitter end.
And the bitter end here is gonna be victory, sir.
mike lindell
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Yep, most powerful promo code in the business.
Mike Lindell, thank you.
I'll see you this afternoon.
We're gonna be on fire.
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We're gonna leave you with the right stuff, and you know why?
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