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Episode 4782: Live: Senate Judiciary Hearing Of Kash Patel
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stephen miller
Of madrasas for jihadism.
There is a domestic terrorism movement in this country.
When you see these organized doxing campaigns where the left calls people enemies of the Republic, calls them fascists, says they're Nazis, says they're evil, says they have to be removed, and then prints their addresses.
What do you think they're trying to do?
They are trying to inspire someone to murder them.
That is their objective.
That is their intent.
And when you see online, Sean, as we've seen for the last few days, tape after tape after tape of federal workers, bureaucrats, staffers in the Pentagon, educators, professors, healthcare workers, nursers, nurses, celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
These are radicalized people.
There is a domestic terrorism movement in this country.
And let me tell you something, I'd not share with anybody.
But the last message that Charlie Kirk gave to me before he joined his creator in heaven, was he said that we have to dismantle and take on the radical left organizations in this country that are fomenting violence.
That was the last message that he sent me before that assassin stole him from all of us.
And we are gonna do that under President Trump's leadership.
I don't care how, it could be a RICO charge, a conspiracy charge, conspiracy against the United States, insurrection, but we are going to do what it takes to dismantle the organizations and the entities that are fomenting riots, that are doxing, that are trying to inspire terrorism, and that are committing acts of wanton violence.
It has to stop.
And my message is to all of the domestic terrorists in this country spreading this evil hate.
You want us to live in fear.
We will not live in fear, but you will live in exile.
Because the power of law enforcement under President Trump's leadership will be used to find you.
We use it to take away your money, take away your power, and if you've broken the law to take away your freedom, Sean.
dana bash
Steve Bannon called talked about you calling to tone down the rhetoric, uh, saying that the following saying Spencer Cox is a national embarrassment.
In a time where we need action, he tells us to sing kumbaya and hold hands with Antifa.
This is not a time for uh trial trial key, excuse me, pontificating.
This is a time to declare Antifa a domestic terrorist organization and have the FBI go kick down some doors.
What's your response to Steve Bannon?
spencer cox
Well, again, uh Mr. Bannon is angry and and rightfully so.
And uh I I'm I'm not saying we have to just sing kumbaya and hold hands.
What I'm saying is we we actually should disagree.
I think Charlie represented that better than anyone.
Charlie said some very inflammatory things.
Um, and and some in some corners of the web, that's all people have heard.
But he also said some other things about forgiveness.
Uh he said uh he said some amazing things about when things get dark, putting down our phones, go reading scripture, going to church, uh talking to our neighbors.
He he uh he he said that we have to engage, and that's what I appreciate most about Charlie Kirk.
He said if we don't, if we don't keep talking, that's when the violence starts.
Um look, there are conflict entrepreneurs out there who benefit from from radicalizing us, and uh I'm I'm I'm not one of those.
I I don't know that that's particularly helpful, but he is right at this.
We need to find out how this happened, and we need to stop it from happening.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
You're just not going to get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not gonna stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Warum.
Stephen Cateman.
steve bannon
Tuesday, 16th September in the year of our Lord 2025.
We're gonna go back and maybe play a highlight reel of uh of cash today.
If anything big comes on cash, let me know.
They asked, it's kind of all over the map a little bit.
Shouldn't say all of the map.
They're doing Venezuela and you know, various uh sundry things of the FBI.
Not enough drill down on the uh assassination.
As you can tell.
Remember, okay.
They're trying to tap Trump along.
They believe Trump's got a shelf life.
This is how the this is how they they're thinking.
I'm just trying to tell you.
Uh you're you're like me, oh no, Trump didn't have a shelf life.
He's everlasting.
Well, they don't think that.
They think they can tap him along and not take any action.
This is why.
And it's the code words they use.
Charlie said some very inflammatory things.
You're just feeding into their side.
I don't remember anything Charlie Kirk ever said that was inflammatory.
Any kind of riots start with Charlie Kirk, any kind of crime start with Charlie Kirk, the inflammatory.
Charlie Kirk spoke the truth.
That was his life was about.
He spoke the truth.
He spoke the truth to power.
It's the coxes of the world that have gotten us to this place.
Gave this talk to CPI last night about all these people coming out for unity.
There's nothing to unify around.
There's a fundamental basic difference in this country.
I think between, as I've said forever, two thirds of the people are 75%, and a 25% of that 25%, let's say maybe 10% are hardcore, so maybe more.
And it's infested the universities and all of it, the schools, all the way from SEL all the way through college.
We're gonna get Harrison up here in a minute.
The great state of Texas, once again, got this stuff infested all throughout the college system, and Abbott's not doing anything about it.
He's throwing out one student, someone would cause a disruption of a vigil, and sure certainly she should be uh thrown out.
The president of Texas Tech should throw it out.
But come on, man.
That's one individual.
What are you doing about the systemic problem?
And Cox is a perfect.
Now call him a girly man, passive aggressive, conflict entrepreneur.
Yo, dude, it's called the war room, okay?
I get it.
And I'm quite proud of that.
Because we needed to fight.
Remember back in 14 to 15, and guys like you, particularly the Romney crowd, having gotten smoked in 12, of which I told all of them, all the donors, said this guy's got zero chance.
I said the ticket of Mitt Romney and uh and Paul Ryan.
Are you kidding me?
This is what you're presenting.
This is gonna win.
And all the big donors I knew, and all the guys writing huge checks, and all the guys that went up to the Ritz Carlton in New York, excuse me, in Boston on election night.
Folks, you had all these billionaires.
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They're all sitting up there and they're they're all ready to go.
steve bannon
And Paul Ryan comes in, and Paul Orion, so clueless.
Paul Ryan comes in early in the evening and he gives them a uh he gives them a talk.
He gives them the first hundred days of the of the Romney Ryan uh plan to all these all these huge donors, right?
Is we've got cash on the assassination.
Let's cut into cash and I'll come back for my rant.
kash patel
Currently being investigated and interrogated, and a number yet to be investigated and interrogated, specific to that chat room.
So we are very much in our ongoing posture of investigation.
john kennedy
So others could have been involved.
kash patel
Yes, sir.
john kennedy
Okay.
Um I asked you this last time you were here.
Cash, you remember Mr. Peter Strzok and Ms. Lisa Page?
kash patel
Yes, sir.
john kennedy
They were Mr. Strzok was an FBI agent.
Ms. Page was an FBI lawyer.
They were both uh very aggressive anti-Trump political activists.
Who allowed their political opinions to affect their work at the FBI?
Is that a fair statement?
kash patel
I believe their text messages and the testimony that was secured by the OIG and DOJ speaking themselves.
john kennedy
In fact, um Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page were having an extramarital affair.
steve bannon
We'll get that.
They're talking about some firing, so we're getting into that.
We'll we'll summarize that.
Right there, Cash told you.
Right, which we've been advocating.
Go to the Discord chat.
Go to this.
You saw the University of Alabama professor.
In University of Alabama, you ought to be real proud that that beauty is on your faculty, okay?
Because not only is he dead wrong, he's one of the messengers trying to.
Oh no, it's a you know, it's just a lone wolf.
You know, his his roommate is cooperating his roommate, but his roommate didn't know anything.
Roommate didn't know anything.
Yeah, he didn't know anything.
Read the chats.
Read the chats of all this.
There is a terrorist network out there, obviously, of these uh of these uh what is it called?
Uh queer Utah armed queer.
That's not a term I normally use, although it's a term that's used all the time in the gay community.
It's called queer armed queer or queer armed salt lake.
And why we're talking about Utah.
There's a big problem out there.
I mean, that used to be not just the Redis of the Red Street, so I mean, but the Mormon folks out there were hey, based.
Right?
That's not the case.
I'm telling you, it ain't gonna be too long before you're fighting for those electoral votes out there because you've had an infestation, and that's what infestation from California of people of not Mormons, and then there's the the inside the Mormon church, you got some wokeness.
It's gotta be addressed.
You know, Cox, you're supposed to be so, you know, think why don't you talk about the fact that the kid's Mormon, the family's Mormon, and you got the kid down, you got the boy down in uh St. George, right down the street from this kid, another Mormon, another Mormon family.
I think he killed his parents, burned the house down.
Another young man transitioning.
And let's get to the psychiatrist, let's get to the doctors.
Let's get to all of it.
Let's see the records.
Let's get the the text message from all of them, the notes from their meetings, what they did to these young men, right?
You know, searching for a motive, searching for him, but still searching for a motive in in uh in Minnesota.
Hey, I think I've got a thing to look at the motive.
Why don't you look at the manifesto?
That guy sent videos and page after page.
I mean, he's he's got a bigger manifesto than the than the unibomber.
They found the unibomber's motor pretty quickly, didn't they?
Well, hey, that one's up in your face.
And that's 115 rounds of a high-powered rifle right there through uh stained glass windows, shooting little children in church pews during mass.
What could be on the first day of school?
What could be more innocent than that?
These people are demons.
They're demonic.
Anyone wants unity, and anybody's gonna back down now?
Go ahead and back down.
I don't give a damn.
Because we ain't gonna back down.
And all weekend, we got to force it and get this terrorism thing and get into it and find out who's supporting it.
And yes, media people, media platforms, well-known media companies, prominent politicians, and the money.
You got the three layers.
You look at the three layers, you're looking at the foot soldiers.
This is the way Antifa works, and in others, you got the trans uh thing of Antifa, which has been radicalized, and they're quite violent and vicious.
You don't think they're violent and vicious?
And look at the hate being spewed on Charlie Kirk and the memory of Charlie Kirk and Charlie Kirk's widow and the two little children.
Hate, pure unadulterated hate.
They're joyous.
You heard an eyewitness yesterday for the guy who ran for governor, Phil Lyman.
If you haven't seen the afternoon show, we had him on for almost an hour.
He's there.
Here's the gun.
He had just talked to Charlie before Charlie went out to the tent.
He's here's the gunshot goes up.
People are scattering.
And there's two young college girls sitting there dropping the F bomb about the crowd.
Come on, you don't think that that crowd, there's certain people didn't know something was going down?
No.
You you're absolutely dead wrong.
We said this from the very moment it happened, and everybody, no, it's you know, it's just a lone thing.
This is what I get the University of Alabama professor.
Hope you're proud down there, Tide.
Roll tide roll.
You got a propagandist.
A propagandist.
Oh, it's just I think it's just a lone wolf.
Yeah, well, you would happen to be wrong, bro.
You would happen to be wrong.
And you're working in the employee of the enemy.
Look to all brand up.
Oh my gosh, you know, Amy Klobucher, oh, there the uh Minnesota.
By the way, we gotta play this gutfield thing.
Greg Gutfield threw down hard.
He finally had a belly full of it.
Gut feels I can't take anymore.
Gutfield called him out.
The the thing in Minnesota, first of all the guys appointed by Waltz.
Number two, that's a personal thing.
That's not Charlie Kirk targeted, that's a personal thing between those two people.
Okay, we have no earthy idea what it's about.
And Shapiro bring Shapiro Shapiro's uh it's a pro-Palestinian person bur burning down Shapiro's thing because he's Jewish that has nothing to do with the right.
That's what are you talking about?
It's a pro-Palestinian thing.
That's a separate deal.
Deal with that separately.
That's not Charlie Kirk preached the gospel of essentially modern love.
Embrace your neighbor.
And hear him out.
Charlie Kirk would put he had the microphone down when the kid was answering, and then he picked the microphone up.
By the way.
On transgender violence, do you think that's just random?
Haven't we called for that guy to be interrogated and rounded up?
All of them ought to be rounded up.
I don't know why we haven't seen those guys perp walked into a jail yet.
And then let's figure it out afterwards.
Round them all up.
mike lindell
Short break.
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richard blumenthal
The members of this committee, quote, every FBI employee will be held to the absolute same standard, and no one will be terminated for case assignments.
You went on to tell me, quote, all FBI employees will be protected against political retribution.
And you assured one of my colleagues that you would honor the internal review process of the FBI.
I'm not going to mince words.
You lied to us.
In the short time that you've been FBI director, you've presided over a rash of retaliatory firing.
Three FBI agents have recently sued you.
They are FBI agents with 60 years between them of distinguished service, rescuing hostages, saving kids from predators, dismantling drug cartels.
And their allegations, their civil allegations, are a searing indictment of your tenure as FBI director.
But it's not just those three.
The FBI Agents Association has said that your actions, quote, distract agents from their work, foster fear that their assignments could cost them their careers, either now or under the next administration, and increase the risk of criminal and national security threats by undermining unity and morale within the Bureau.
End quote.
This association, as you know, is voluntary.
It represents 14,000 members, 90% of all the active agents.
These are your employees.
Saying that your performance has been unqualified and unfit.
And there is mounting evidence that these retaliatory firings were the result of direction from the White House.
There have been instances in the past history of the Bureau of political interference and political direction.
From the director's office, but not the kind of institutional interference that we're seeing from the White House right now.
I'm going to ask you: has anyone from the White House contacted you about personnel decisions.
kash patel
I completely disagree with your entire premise that I have lied or are misleading the FBI.
If I were, the results that I announced today by the men and women of the FBI and the historic records we are doing to keep this country safe would not be possible.
The men and women of the FBI are responding to our leadership and this administration's priorities.
The only way people get terminated at the FBI is if they fail to meet the muster of the job and their duties.
And that is where I will leave it.
And you accusing me of lying is something I don't take lightly, but I'm not going to get into a tit for tat with you.
richard blumenthal
Well, let me just ask you to answer my question.
Has anyone from the White House contacted you about personnel decisions?
kash patel
Generally speaking, we always discuss with the White House OMB during the budget process how many personnel we need, who we need where.
richard blumenthal
Answer is yes.
For budgetary purposes to realize to fire people, agents because they participated in investigations of the president.
kash patel
I don't receive directions to do that.
richard blumenthal
As any respect, I make decisions.
The best information is yes, you've taken suggestions and direction from the White House in firing qualified agents.
kash patel
Any termination at the FBI was a decision that I made based on the evidence that I have as a director of the FBI, and it's my job, and I'm not going to shy away from it.
And as you stated, those are allegations.
And that is an ongoing litigation.
So they'll have their day in court, so will we.
richard blumenthal
The allegations are not just in that lawsuit, Director Patel.
And I think your testimony confirms that, in fact, you've taken direction from the White House.
I don't think in those discalimentary firings.
kash patel
It literally does not.
richard blumenthal
Because you've acknowledged that, in fact, they have been in contact with you about personnel decisions.
kash patel
The White House has been...
Do not put words in my mouth.
We're on the record.
The White House, like any administration, contacts its agencies on the budgeting process and where it needs personnel and where the mission priorities are.
That always happens.
If they didn't do that, they would be abdicating the responsibility to law enforcement.
I will always work with my partners in the chain of command at the Department of Justice in the White House to ensure that this FBI is delivering the results we are delivering to include the lowest murder rate in modern U.S. history, to include the most fentanyl seizures in modern U.S. history, to include the most lives saved and the most children found in modern U.S. history.
That is a working FBI that is not a failing FBI.
richard blumenthal
Let's move on to a related area.
In White House discussions, have you been asked or directed by the White House or others to engage in a crackdown on political groups or organizations, nonprofits after the murder of Charlie Kirk?
kash patel
To direct at political organizations?
No.
I've been asked by my chain of command to properly root out criminal activity wherever it is in whatever investigation we are conducting.
That's what we're doing.
richard blumenthal
Have those distinctions about whom you're going to target been based on direction from the White House?
kash patel
Nobody gives me a list on who to target.
My targeting list is from the men and women at the FBI.
richard blumenthal
Have you talked about investigating certain groups, nonprofits or foundations or institutions?
kash patel
Whatever those investigations are, they're ongoing and I'm not going to get into those.
richard blumenthal
Have you used polygraphs to determine loyalty of agents?
No.
Have you committed that you will respect the First Amendment rights of agents?
kash patel
I have wildly committed to respecting the First Amendment rights of agents, but at the FBI.
steve bannon
I don't know why you're not back up their cash blown back on uh blown back on Blumenthal.
Half of the agents should be been fired.
Take it full on.
Say, hey, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Yeah, we are going to give some polygraphs.
Suck on that.
We can't.
You're giving polygraphs over the FBI all the time.
It's not about loyalty.
Is it uh where are your interest?
Trust me, when they do the domestic, when they do the terrorism uh inquiry, you're gonna have many people in the U.S. government's names are gonna come.
this is gonna be a sweep of the U.S. government.
This is why we're calling for it.
You got the foot soldiers that you see all the time, whether in Portland burning things down, or whether they're in um in uh assassinating Charlie Kirk in uh in Utah.
Then you got the next layer of bad ombre's in the military and the intelligence agencies and law enforcement that train these people and give them information.
And then you've got the the the operating command of the media of corporate of corporate types, of billionaires of the financing of who's connected and what foreign governments are connected.
What foreign governments are connected?
You gotta get to the bottom of all of it.
This is a defining moment right here.
I argued last night, and as you know, because you're the one that put your shoulder to the wheel to put Trump on your shoulders in January and February of 2021 and said, no, no, no, no, no.
We're not going to have Ron DeSantis, we're not going to have Nikki Haley, we're not gonna, we don't care how long Fox News is banned him, we don't care how long Fox News is banned him, we don't care how much they push all these other people.
Trump's the guy, it's the arc of the story of American history.
He has to come back and he will come back.
That being said, I think you can argue right now with having the House, the Senate, the White House, and the courts.
You go back and look at the fights we were doing 10 years ago, it's so much darker and so much deeper today.
And we are so far from victory, given everything President Trump has accomplished, sealing the border and everything.
Look at the scale of it.
Are we talking about mass deportations right now?
Are we?
Are we?
We're talking about rolling up bad ombres, the criminal element, which has to happen, and I agree it should be the first, but we're the mass deportation.
The reason is in Portland, they're burning it down every night on anti-uh anti-ICE.
These cities, President Trump right now is not going into Chicago.
He said that.
The crime's out of control, but a huge part of it is the illegal alien invasion.
Not going there.
Not in LA, not going to New York.
And New York's about to be, there's about to be won by a Marxist jihadist.
Sadiq Khan, New York division, and Kathy Holkel and the Democratic.
I said this back when the kid won, which I said the kid was going to win the primary when he won, and I wanted to talk to these guys.
I said, you are all gonna genuflect.
You're all gonna bend the knee to this guy.
All of you are gonna bend the knee.
Just like a whole bunch of the aristocracy in France bent the knee to the uh to the Committee on Public Safety, what was called the terror, before they say I'm to the guillotine.
Money is gutless.
Remember that.
Money is gutless, it's always gutless.
You're seeing this now and all these issues coming out with Charlie Kirk.
And I want to make an announcement here.
We're going to do a uh a real walkthrough this whole Kirk situation tomorrow and also also an update on Netanyahu and what's really gone on in this uh in this in the what I call the Persian war, right?
Where, and we'll have documented evidence.
Stephen K. Bannon in the war room was 100% key wrecked, as I told you.
And now we got uh now we got the smoking gun.
I'm just gonna have to hang on to tomorrow to that because I need I need to really walk this through so people fully understand it.
Because right now it's not totally understood.
And there's uh not misdirection place, I think not perfect information.
Um Russ Vogt's supposed to join us, give us the bad news.
Excuse me, the good news on the CR.
There's gotta be some good news here, right?
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Because you got to get 218 votes.
steve bannon
Got Naomi Wolf's done a great job of compiling all this uh all the Twitter feeds and get people that seemed to know something was gonna happen on the seventh on the 10th of September in the Irvord 2025 at Utah Valley University.
Taj Gill's with us also.
May have to push Texas to this afternoon.
Brian Harrison, big, big, big problem down these Texas universities.
Short break, back in the worm in a moment.
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Naomi Wolf.
Naomi, what I love about you, you're kind of a dinosaur.
You're you're a classic, you're a classic free speech liberal, First Amendment, right?
All that.
This is like you're you're but I love you.
You've done a daily cloud.
You did a great job of compiling.
I want everybody to read it.
Just all these, I guess, tweets and everything that are out there that now's being reported on by Daily Mail, New York Post.
And I think in the hearing today, they're looking at the people.
It may if they didn't have foreknowledge, they were quite prescient in things that might happen at Utah Valley on uh on September 10th.
Can you tell us what you guys just pulled it from uh from tweets that are out there on the internet, ma'am?
dr naomi wolf
Sure.
So this is uh daily clout summary of other sources, and it does appear, you know, to be confirmed that um according to reports, several trans identifying and LGBT associated accounts posted messages predicting Kirk's death, some explicitly naming September 10th as the day.
naomi wolf
Um the Washington Free Beacon quoted one of them from September 3rd.
Uh, you know, it'd be it's they're horrible.
It'd be funny if someone like Charlie Kirk got shot on September 10th, L M A O, end quote, another allegedly posted quote, Charlie Kirk is coming to my college tomorrow.
I really hope someone evaporates him literally, uh, end quote, followed by quote, let's just say something big will happen tomorrow, end quote.
And as I think you mentioned, the FBI is also examining the role of armed queers, Salt Lake City, a radical socialist LGBTQ group.
Um, and they've deleted their accounts, but uh apparently they uh once promoted firearms training, Cuban revolutionary trips, and the quote, armed and militant protection of queer and trans communities.
Now, having said all of that, Steve, I really kind of want to issue you know I will, you know, a classic caution, and I issued this same caution after 9-11, and I issued it after 2008, you know, about rounding up Muslims, you know, any Muslims or rounding up, you know, any group.
I mean, it appears to be confirmed that some trans and LGBT identified accounts have evidence of alleged foreknowledge of this horrific crime.
But I think it's such a I just have to say this, it's such an inflamed moment.
Understandably, people like you know, you and other friends of ours have lost a dear friend, a young father.
You know, it can't that tragedy can't be overstated.
But at this moment, I just think it's really important for us to remember that even if God forbid, trans identified and LGBT identified people.
Some of them did horrible things or were involved in a plot to you know hurt or kill the late Charlie Kirk.
That doesn't mean that a larger group is criminal, and that's just always true.
And you know, we've got to remember it.
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Our country will be.
steve bannon
Hey, Naomi, can you Naomi?
Can you hang on for one second?
I'll just put a pin in that.
I'm gonna come right back to you.
Uh, we got uh Russ vote live at the uh White House, and he's jammed for time.
Uh Russ, people are quite uh Punch Bolt says the day, we're gonna get a CR, a clean, I think it looks like a clean CR that gets us to Thanksgiving, right?
So as you know, given your time with us in the four years, we we've been We've been fighting this forever.
Give us some good news about this CR if there is any.
russ vought
Well, I think there is, and I think the reality is that we have been able to operate under uh lower levels than a CR because the members put us in a position where we could get the government funded.
We're up against another one of those opportunities right now.
And in six months, we are 17 billion dollars lower than a CR levels.
See how how might that be?
Because of the things that the president ran on, rescissions, pocket rescind, and as a result, we are 17 billion dollars below with only six months.
And so as you go forward, CR, I think it's important to think of a CR differently when you have a president who is using executive tools at his disposal that had never been done before.
You're certainly not having a dealing with the Biden administration is trying to spend more.
And so this is a a very critical juncture point.
We're hoping that to get this thing passed, I was up dealing working with uh conservatives today uh this morning to encourage them to vote for this.
And I think the other thing that's informative is where uh those on the other side are.
I mean, they are going apoplectic about the moves the president, this administration is making to sit spend less, to save less, to be more efficient, and they're trying to uh leverage things that have nothing to do with the CR with regard to health care policy.
And so we have them in a very good position where uh they should be with us to fund the government, and they are not currently.
And I think this is important debate that we're gonna have.
I think this is on the terms of conservatives, and I that's why I'm I'm I'm I'm excited to be out there uh encouraging people to be for it.
steve bannon
Okay, so let's say, you know, the warm and others say, okay, we've got faith in President Trump and Russ and Bess and these guys.
Uh and I understand you've done magnificent work with the rescind, pocket rescissions, but a lot of these are just symbolic.
What is the plan?
If people agree to this, say, okay, fine, November and then this goes, we're still on Biden's, correct me if I'm wrong, we're still on Biden and Plosi's numbers.
What is the plan?
Because there's only so much the executive can do.
What is the plan with the Republicans on Capitol Hill, uh, Scott Bestnet Treasury to get us from, you know, with with with tariffs coming in, other money coming in, all of this to get us from six and a half percent, I think, of um of uh deficit to GDP down to something that's manageable at three percent because governments throughout the world are falling, like in like in uh France and soon to be in England.
His his approvals as President Trump's hanging with him at checkers this weekend is 11 percent, right?
All because driven a lot because of immigration and finances and paying for it.
What then is a people let's say, okay, fine, you get the CR, you get to November.
We're correct me if I'm wrong, our deficit this year is gonna be 1.9 trillion dollars when we finish on September 30th, right?
Just what's the plan?
russ vought
Let me zoom out for it.
It's a great question, Steve.
You know it what's one that I care and and and stay up thinking about.
We entered this administration with thirty-two trillion dollars in deficits over the next ten years, unrelated to what we've already facing in terms of the national debt.
As a result of the moves made in just the first eight months and their logical trajectory.
We're gonna have to fight all those out into the future.
But just where we are right now, $4 trillion in tariff revenues coming in to the taxpayer, uh, no one had ever assumed that that was gonna be the case.
The discretionary cuts that we're on a glide path to be able to change the way the town works and does business, the economic growth.
We put out a mid-session review that said over ten years, that's fifteen trillion dollars reduced from that number, that I-popping $32 trillion number that I discussed.
And and including the the the efforts on the one big beautiful bill with 1.5 trillion dollars in mandatory spending.
So we're making major moves.
We're in the the first eight months, and I would say with regard to discretionary spending, which Matters a great deal.
We I've been on your show for a long time talking about this is the money that funds the bureaucracy.
It's what they have a vote on every single year.
We're changing 50 years of a paradigm with regard to the notion that 200 years of presidents just had the ability to spend less if they thought it was inefficient than the Congress gave them.
And I don't I would I would contest it a little bit, Steve, that these are symbolic uh rescinds.
In fact, they are part of calculated moves to be able to reassert the executive branch in a way that you can have separation of powers again.
And obviously that's one of those paramount constitutional principles, so that a president's budget is not ignored, that you actually have a give and take between the legislative and the executive branch, and the appropriations process will work again.
Right now, the appropriations process is has to deal with the fact that there you need 60 votes in the Senate, and you don't have a lot of margin in the House.
And so if you're looking for a strategy to get lower spending, and that's what I'm looking at, what's my interest?
Lower spending, it is to pass these CRs and to continue to do rescissions, pocket rescinds, and potentially impoundments which the president has run on.
This is a durable strategy, and I think it will lead to the budget process and the appropriations process working.
steve bannon
Okay, so you're saying from the 32 trillion of projected deficits, you've essentially cut that if and we still got some more work to do to make sure this is all implemented, but you cut it to fifty, you've cut it, you've cut 15 trillion out of that, almost 50 percent.
Okay.
One of the things that concerns me is everything you said, and look, we 100% support you.
We know you're a budget hawk and a warrior on this.
There's a term that's been used now for about the last 30 to 45 days that concerns me on all your efforts going forward, not just with the 60%.
But there's something seeping in there called bipartisan appropriations.
And that has not been crushed yet.
That's kind of it's it's been and it's getting embraced more and more.
Bipartisan appropriations means just Republicans, this is the unity thing.
Essentially surrendering any logic on the budget and just and just agreeing with these out-of-control radical democrats, which gets back to President Trump's.
They're all radical, they're all supporting radical groups, so why are we playing patty cake with them?
How are we going to stop this now uh mind uh virus of uh bipartisan appropriations?
russ vought
Yeah, I think there's uh a couple of different ways to answer the question.
I got uh a lot of flack in this town for when the Democrats were saying that any rescisions bill equ was equal to a bipartisan appropriations process, and therefore you couldn't vote for rescissions bill.
I thought that was wrong.
And that's not how we should be thinking about it.
What I what I mean by it, it's not a call for unity in in where unity doesn't exist.
It's just a recognition of the vote situation in the Senate to fund a bill that's outside of reconciliation, and we try to move as much through reconciliation as we possibly could, but to move it outside of reconciliation, you need 60 votes and you have a filibuster to deal with.
And so you don't need you don't want a bipartisan bill of 80, you know, members of the Senate, but you're gonna need uh uh uh in single digits of Democrats to come along with you and enact your your extensions of the of government funding, and that's what we're talking about.
And and our hope is that we'll get someone like a Fetterman, we'll get someone that has you know been opposed to government shutdowns in the past, and I think that's important.
And for those who are concerned about what the bureaucracies may have have funded in years past, we will be like hawks to be able to determine what funding needs to be turned off.
We already have been and will continue to do so.
Love the work that people are doing to come on your show and others to let us know uh groups that should not uh warrant federal uh taxpayer dollars, and we will be constantly on the lookout for those types of things.
It's one of the things I'm I have is my perch at USAID now.
Uh but those are the things that we can just unilaterally turn it off.
We don't need Congress to be able to do that.
steve bannon
Russ, where do people go?
This is obviously gonna be very contentious until now until something gets done.
Where do people go to follow it uh moment by moment on your social media?
russ vought
At Russ Vote would be great, and uh we'll be providing all that kind of information there.
steve bannon
Look forward to having you back, brother.
You're fighting the good fight.
You're fighting the good fight against quite long odds.
Thank you, sir.
Um it's just reality.
I'd like to be able to tell you something different.
Simply reality.
It's all started They don't have the, you know, there's not a stomach up there on the hill to fight this madness.
Just not.
Short break.
Naomi, Harrison, uh, and Taj all next.
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We will fight till they're all good.
We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the CC.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Naomi.
steve bannon
Uh, we gotta bounce.
You're doing great work at Daily Cloud.
Where do people, what's your social media?
Where do people go to keep up with these news uh capsules that you're doing?
dr naomi wolf
Thank you so much.
So we're over at DailyClout.io and you can support us and follow us there.
naomi wolf
And I'm also over on Substack.
Uh, and my Substack is called Outspoken.
And people should also really check out um legislature.com where you can follow state and federal bills by industry.
Thank you.
steve bannon
And we're gonna have you back on.
We'll talk about the Pfizer papers, but I'll call you afterwards and we'll set it up.
Mike Lindell, um, I know you were close to Charlie and the guys at turning point.
Um, and I want to thank you for all the work you guys did with him.
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steve bannon
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Thank you.
We'll see you this afternoon, brother.
Appreciate you.
Taj Gill.
Taj, this is why we gotta have a the this um we gotta have the Antifa's terrorist organization, but we need a full-scale investigation here as Naomi said.
There's just no way this kid, because he's uh his uh lover, right?
His dude, uh, you know, living with him as a as a woman, I guess it is, with a f in a furry.
You get a twofer there.
There's no way that this thing's deeper than that.
Uh, would you not agree with me, sir?
tej gill
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I definitely agree with you, Steve.
Um, you know, that this guy didn't come up with all these ideas on his own.
He was he was radicalized online and through the college networks.
That's how this happens.
It's it's just like radical Islam.
You know, these these kids that are lost, they they get involved in these chat groups online, social media, and then local networks, and they get radicalized.
This is a true terrorist organization, and people they take our use youth, they radicalize them, and then they send them off to do illegal activities, and it's for political gain.
So it literally checks all the blocks for domestic terrorism.
So Trump should have no problem legally designating them as a domestic terrorist group.
I heard him yesterday in the White House talking about it, and he said he's going to bounce it off Pam Bondi.
So hopefully they get all this done ASCII.
steve bannon
Yeah, this already.
tej gill
This has been going on for over a decade.
steve bannon
It's been worked out with the guys.
Yeah.
tej gill
Sorry, go ahead.
steve bannon
And it over a decade, and Trump was going to do it in his first term, and they and Bill Barr waved him off, but there's been work over the weekend, and we'll have more updates on that this afternoon and tomorrow.
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steve bannon
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tej gill
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steve bannon
Thank you, sir.
You're a pay you're a patriot, a warrior, and a uh shooter.
We're gonna have Tage break down all this videos come with us, so more of that over all these shows we're gonna do in the run-up to Charlie Kirk's funeral.
Harrison joins us from Texas, a truth teller.
Brother, I do not understand why Abbott and that administration down there are funding this madness.
It's bad enough in these blue states, but why is the gray state?
Tell us what's happening.
I got about a 90 seconds.
I'm gonna have you back on this afternoon.
Hope what in the hell is going on in Texas, sir?
brian harrison
Yeah, it's outrageous.
Pretty much all of the woke cancerous ideology that Charlie Kirk dedicated his life to defeat is being funded by the so-called Republican government in the state of Texas.
They kicked a conservative student out of a children's literature course at Texas AM over the summer, and then tried to threaten her into silence, berated her.
The Texas AM university president berated her, tried to cover it up.
Well, who's running Texas AM?
Who was appointed by Governor Abbott and his regents?
A former Barack Obama official, currently running Texas AM.
And then I just found this this morning, and I just posted this online just now.
I was horrified to learn that at Texas State University, not only are they funding and teaching transgender indoctrination generally, they literally have a course teaching transgender justice and get this transgender resistance.
I am horrified.
I've now learned this morning it's even worse than I thought.
But the Texas government may well be funding the next generation of transgender domestic terrorists and of domestic assassins.
And this is all because of Republicans, these so-called Republican leadership in the Texas government who refuses to do the right thing and stop funding this poisonous woke cancerous ideology in almost every one of our public universities here in the state of Texas.
It's an absolute outrage.
steve bannon
Harrison, Harrison, what's your what's your what's your social media handle?
More have you back on?
I want to drill down on this because it's it's it's it's it's funding the cancer.
Where do where do you go to get your information?
brian harrison
We're we're funding the other team.
It's Brian E. Harrison on X at Brian E. Harrison on X, uh, at Brian E. Harrison on X. And Texans and Americans coast to coast need to be outraged at what's being done with your tax dollars.
We're funding the other side.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
The Charlie Kirk show is next.
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