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Sept. 15, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4777: Washington D.C. Prayer Vigil For Charlie Kirk
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unidentified
Shots fired during a speech by right-wing activist Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University in Orem.
This happened really just moments ago.
Kirk was about 20 minutes into his speech when shots were fired from a nearby building.
There was a single shot that rang out.
He was shot in the neck.
And now the president of the United States, someone that Charlie Kirk was close to, is reporting that he has died.
tom winter
They did detain an individual, somebody who's well known to them in that area, charged with obstruction of justice after the shooting.
unidentified
We are, of course, following the breaking news out of Utah right now.
And I just want to sort of clarify where we are right now.
chris hayes
There was back and forth about whether a suspect, a person of interest, or a subject had been apprehended.
There was an individual in custody.
unidentified
Just moments ago, we got information from FBI Dec Director Kash Patel that that person has been released after an interrogation by law enforcement, which would lead one to conclusion that the suspect, whoever pulled this off, whoever committed this heinous act, is at large.
We don't yet know who did this.
We don't know their motives.
And it very well may be, as was the case, I think, in the wake of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, that those motives or politics were illegible, inscrutable, something of a black box.
I did hear the governor of Utah, somebody that I generally trust, call this a political assassination.
Maybe he has information that the rest of us don't.
They were able to set up without detection, had done some sort of planning.
Where Kirk is, he's kind of down in a bowl with a tent.
So this person was able to set up far enough away where they knew that they could be, and yet at a low enough of an angle where they could fire a single shot, high center mass, and then have the discipline to leave immediately after.
Now the question becomes, who is this person?
Why did they specifically do it?
kasie hunt
Police announced that they've recovered what they believe to be the murder weapon, a high-powered rifle alongside ammunition and a screwdriver in a wooded area near the crime scene.
unidentified
Salt Lake City's FBI posting, we are asking for the public's help identifying this person of interest in connection with the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University.
It's explicitly said that they had imagery of this individual in the stairwell arriving at the school.
And then this person of interest jumps off the roof into a local neighborhood at some point dumps the gun in a wooded area where they said they recovered it.
They probably figured out the pictures are not enough granularity to do facial recognition through their systems that they were going to now ask the public.
And the public is a force multiplier.
donald j trump
I think just to protect us all and so Fox doesn't get sued and we all don't get sued and everything else.
unidentified
But I think with a high degree of certainty, we have him.
In custody.
In custody.
U.S. media are now reporting that the suspect is 22-year-old Tyler Robinson.
So we do now have a name circulating.
President Trump made the arrest announcement, even as he said he might not be getting all the details right.
We heard him say that, but there are still questions.
It was a family member and a family friend who helped deliver Tyler Robinson to law enforcement in Washington County.
A considerable distance between here and there that Robinson was able to go before he ultimately was brought into custody.
aaron gilchrist
Investigators were also able to look at some messages, they say, between Mr. Robinson and his roommate on his roommate's phone, and there was a reference to a rifle in some of those messages.
unidentified
It seemed as though he was trying to get the roommate to go after and recover the gun, but that's my speculation on it.
33 hours is a very short period of time to go from nothing as far as an ID to being able to have this guy in custody.
Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read, hey fascist exclamation point, catch exclamation point.
Up arrow symbol, right arrow, and symbol, and three down arrow symbols.
A second unfired casing read, Obella Chow, Bella Chow, Bella Chow, Chow Chow.
And a third unfired casing read, If you read this, you are gay, L-M-A-O.
So, Obella Chow, that is a song glorifying the partisans who fought against the fascists and the occupying Nazis in Italy during the Second World War.
And later, when the governor was asked about a motive, he said, Well, maybe you don't need to look any further than those words, hey, fascist hatch.
andrew mccabe
And the chats are remarkable to me because the idea that an assassin who has gone to this level of planning, has traveled over 100 miles from his own home to execute this crime, who thought through showing up in one set of clothes, changing his clothes to commit the crime, changing back to try to escape.
unidentified
And then a big piece of that escape was dropping the rifle in an area, possibly dismantling it, but also wrapping it in a towel so he could go back and retrieve it later.
andrew mccabe
Apparently, he shared that part of his plan with his roommate.
jon scott
At Fox News Alert, FBI sources tell Fox News Digital that the man charged with assassinating Charlie Kirk was living with a transgender partner.
unidentified
They say that individual is fully cooperating with their investigation, claims to have had no idea of Robinson's plan.
What more have we learned about the suspect?
And are investigators any closer to finding a motive?
No, no, no, no, no known motive, I should say, in this case.
What we've been hearing from investigators, which is that Robinson appeared to have a romantic relationship with his roommate.
The roommate is somebody that identifies as transgender, transitioning from male to female, and that that roommate, by all accounts, has been incredibly cooperative with the investigation, is answering questions.
This was a very normal young man, a very smart young man, 4-0 student.
I believe that social media has played a direct role in every single assassination and assassination attempt that we have seen over the last five, six years.
There is no question in my mind that cancer probably isn't a strong enough word.
What we have done, especially to our kids, it took us a decade to realize how evil these algorithms are.
What we know so far, there are a couple things that we can confirm that have been reported.
We can confirm that, again, according to family and people that we're interviewing, he does come from a conservative family, but his ideology was very different than his family.
And so that's part of it.
We do know that the roommate that we had originally talked about, we can confirm that that roommate is a boyfriend who is transitioning from male to female.
So we know that piece.
spencer cox
I will say that that person has been very cooperative with authorities.
unidentified
And we have additional evidence, forensic evidence that has been processed.
We'll be sharing that when charges are filed on Tuesday.
You say he admitted that, confessed?
No, not, again, he has not confessed to authorities.
He is not cooperating.
So we saw a video of a person jumping off the roof.
It looked very legitimate to me.
However, there was no rifle in his hand.
Now, the Mauser does not break down very easily, incidentally, for those of you who know weapons.
michael savage
Something's wrong with the whole thing.
unidentified
They're trying to claim he removed the barrel from the Mauser and fit the receiver and stock in his backpack and barrel in his pants, like all in two seconds.
It is not easy to remove a Mauser barrel or index it after reinstalling and remain accurate.
michael savage
We are not hearing of seeing reality.
unidentified
And by the way, the photo of the rifle allegedly left in the woods has the barrel installed.
michael savage
So we're supposed to believe a guy is on the run after killing Charlie Kirk, and he pauses in the woods to reinstall a barrel, and then he leaves it for us to find, the FBI to find.
unidentified
I don't believe a word.
It's Sunday, 14 September in the year of our Lord, 2025.
steve bannon
We're going live right now to the Kennedy Center in the nation's capital, Washington, D.C.
We have a complete Real America Voice team there, David Zeer, Ben Berkwam.
unidentified
We've got many of our contributors are going to go for the first hour.
This is going to start between 6 and 6.30, the prayer vigil for Charlie Kirk, one of many throughout the United States and the world.
steve bannon
We have really the spiritual leader who's going to lead us in this, Sean Foyt, is with us.
unidentified
Sean's got to bounce backstage, get all this organized.
Sean, what is the purpose of this today?
steve bannon
What do you help to accomplish?
This is a major cultural center in Washington.
unidentified
You've got a who's who of names from the government in the Trump MAGA movement coming on stage today.
What do you hope to?
You were very close to Charlie.
What do you hope to accomplish?
You know, it just, what a heartbreaking week.
What a devastating week.
sean feucht
And, you know, only God can take this and use it for his glory.
unidentified
And that's what we're seeing today.
I mean, churches were slam-packed today across America.
sean feucht
People are leaning back into faith.
unidentified
I got several messages as did many people, of people that hadn't been to church in 15, 20, even 30 years.
And because of Charlie, they're going back.
sean feucht
Why?
unidentified
Because all his videos of him preaching the gospel on campuses have gone viral.
And it's like what the enemy meant for evil, God is flipping it around.
sean feucht
And so tonight, I mean, it's only the irony and the beauty that we're here in the Kennedy Center, which used to be the center of wokeness.
unidentified
And we are here tonight worshiping, praying, sharing testimonies of Charlie, probably going to do an altar call.
sean feucht
I mean, who knows?
Like, God is going to move.
unidentified
And we're doing it in the Kennedy Center.
Steve, I mean, this is like, this is a total God setup.
No, I think it's incredible, particularly with the different preachers and the different spiritual leaders that are going to be there.
Talk to me about your ministry and Charlie Kirk.
steve bannon
You've gone throughout the country.
unidentified
I've known you for years.
You've been harassed and hassled and attacked by many forces on the left.
steve bannon
Talk to us about your ministry and how it's had to go through this brutally dark time in American history.
unidentified
Well, I want to just say, I mean, tonight, obviously, we're focusing on the legacy of Charlie.
And I mean, there's a lot of my ministry I could talk about and things that God's having us do and the season that we're in.
sean feucht
But I just want to honor him because, you know, when in COVID, like when we were pushing back and God was, you know, had this call on us to bring let us worship, to defy the regulations, to push back against the government and the tyrannical overreach and those that were trying to silence us.
unidentified
You know, Charlie was in our corner and many pastors and leaders across America weren't.
And there was a lot of friendly fire that I was taking personally and other leaders of faith, but Charlie was always championing us.
Like, go harder, Sean.
Go for it.
Like, this is the hour.
You know, he was such a guy that cheered on his friends.
Like he was a true encourager.
sean feucht
And, you know, I feel like tonight, like even being here, like thousands of people, Steve, are going to gather here tonight and millions more will watch what takes place online.
And it's like today, it's about extending the legacy.
It's about taking the baton of courage and boldness.
unidentified
And it's like, you know, just like the martyrs throughout history, you know, we know that the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church.
And, you know, we have that Bible verse that says, unless a seed falls to the ground and dies, it won't bear fruit.
And Charlie's life is a seed, and we are going to see the harvest.
sean feucht
We're already seeing the harvest.
But the harvest that's coming for his life, revival is the revenge in America.
unidentified
Revival is the revenge, and we're going to see a revival.
We're going to see an awakening.
And just the fact that even tonight, in this once godless place, the Kennedy Center, tonight we're going to be singing hymns, playing cellos and guitars, lifting up our voices in prayer.
I mean, it just, it's going to be so special.
And we're just, tonight, we just want to celebrate him and we want to see his legacy endure in the next generation.
Sean, last question.
steve bannon
I know you got to get backstage because you're kind of organizing this tonight and leading it.
unidentified
It's been pretty stunning throughout the world, from Korea to Europe to London, throughout the United States, huge on Long Island, just all over the country.
Spontaneous, spontaneous reactions, spontaneous vigils.
Today, you're correct.
steve bannon
Reports all over churches were absolutely packed, particularly people who haven't been in a couple of decades and/or young people.
unidentified
What is it about Charlie Kirk?
steve bannon
What is about his life, his mission, that's causing this spontaneous outbreak throughout the world?
unidentified
Well, I mean, he was unapologetically bold.
He was a truth teller that never backed down, but he did it in such a way, he was joyful.
And this is the thing that I think is so powerful.
And I would encourage every young leader and every young person that wants to change the world.
sean feucht
Like the thing I love so much about Charlie, and we used to talk about this a lot in our conversations, actually, just a few days before, you know, he went home to be with the Lord, talking about this, the joyful warrior.
unidentified
Like, what does it look like to actually overcome evil with good, but do it with joy?
sean feucht
Like, we don't have to be the grumpy, angry, perpetually frustrated conservatives.
Like, we can sit in the seat of joy because we know the end of the story.
unidentified
We know that good wins.
sean feucht
We know that even this week, it's just so dark and difficult and hard.
unidentified
I was in, I was with Charlie's pastor last night, Pastor Rob McCoy in Los Angeles at the church that we went to a lot together and just the heaviness and the sobriety.
But yet, in the midst of that all, like, God, he didn't cause this, but yet he's going to use this.
And, you know, that's my encouragement tonight.
There's something that's infectious that Charlie had about his joy going into these campuses where the vitriol and the animosity.
I mean, we've experienced that in our meetings.
We get it too.
Like just the rage, but yet in the midst of that, he's smiling at these kids while telling them the truth.
And I think that is so powerful in this generation.
And so I think that I think courage is contagious.
And I think joy is profound in moments like that.
And that's my prayer, even as we leave here tonight, that we would carry the joyful warrior that Charlie Kirk was to the world.
Sean, what is your social media?
How do people go find out more about your ministry?
They can go to at Sean Foyt.
My last name is F-E-U-C-H-T.
They can go to Let Us Worship, and we're on all social media channels, Facebook, Instagram.
You can go to X, FollowMe, YouTube, all that good stuff.
Thank you, Sean.
I appreciate you taking time before the event.
Honored.
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Let's do a reset.
unidentified
Thank you, brother.
We have Ben Berquam and David Zeer.
steve bannon
I'm going to go to those guys.
unidentified
We have many other people showing up that we'll be able to get.
can we go back to can oh i tell you what we're going to do we'll take we had to do a rolling break here Let's take a short commercial break.
Are we ready?
steve bannon
Can we do that?
Short commercial break.
unidentified
We're going to return.
We're live at the Kennedy Center for a prayer vigil in the nation's capital for Charlie Kirk.
Back in a moment.
I got American parts.
I got American faith.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Okay, welcome back to our special coverage of the prayer vigil at the Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C.
The event doors will open at 6 o'clock.
We're doing a little pregame here.
Folks will get in there at about 6.30.
They're going to kick off and it'll go probably an hour to 90 minutes and we will cover this wall to wall.
We have our own Ben Berquam and David Zeer there.
Ben, give me your thoughts.
You've been all over the country recently on raids.
I know you were close to Charlie Kirk and the Turning Point team.
Your thoughts about today?
Yeah, you know, Steve, when I heard the news, just like everyone else, it's one of those, you live life and sometimes you just get into life so much, you forget things like this happen.
And when it happened, you just think, oh, he's going to be okay, right?
It's going to be okay.
ben bergquam
And then you go, I was in the neck.
unidentified
Well, that's bad.
ben bergquam
And then you see the video and it was like that moment that's surreal.
unidentified
And it's been surreal ever since.
ben bergquam
It's every morning I wake up.
It's just like when you lose anyone in your family, every morning you wake up with that false hope that they're still there.
unidentified
And that was just a bad dream nightmare.
And now you get to see them again.
And every morning that's what's happening for me.
Charlie was such a major person, not just in my life in watching him grow, but the world.
And I think about this, Steve.
Most people when they die make very little impact in the world outside of their immediate family and friends.
They're a rock dropped in a pond.
ben bergquam
Charlie Kirk was an earthquake in the ocean and his ripples that we're seeing just starting now.
unidentified
This is a tsunami that's coming around, not just, like you said, not just America, but the world.
What we saw in England yesterday, what we've seen in South Korea, what we've seen in other Asian countries, Japan, all of these nations that realize that this battle that we're fighting in America is their battle too, that MAGA and nobody other than President Trump yourself and Charlie Kirk emulated that more.
ben bergquam
They realize that if they can kill this person in America, that they can kill anybody.
unidentified
But the amazing thing, what Sean said to me, the amazing part about it is what has already been unleashed.
I mean, you think about this.
This was like a cluster bomb.
ben bergquam
You hit Charlie and it's devastating for his wife and for his kids and for his parents.
unidentified
But what they did, what the enemy did, what this demon did, was unleash millions of Charlies that were being prepared for such a time as this.
ben bergquam
They were being prepared through TPUSA to fight the battle that they're being sent into now.
unidentified
And so going back to Sean's point, ironically, we're standing in the Kennedy Center.
What the enemy meant for evil is exploding back in their face already.
And I'm just waiting to see the fruits of this that come out.
I still continue to say pray for obviously the family, pray for truth to come out in this investigation.
But ultimately, I'm just sitting back saying, Lord, have your will, send us, make this generation bold to fight these battles.
David Zir, you've covered this extensively since the 1990s, everything that happened in New York City, the World Trade Center the first time, 9-11, all of it.
You know the whole global chess piece here.
President of the United States said the other day, we're at war against this radical ideology.
Of course, now it looks like he's pointing to these training terror cells.
There's so much that hasn't been explained.
And tomorrow on the war room, we're going to get into all of it in a lot of detail.
Maybe even tonight, have Jim Hoff and some people.
But Zir, what are your thoughts?
You've been like a combat correspondent on this for years.
Your thoughts?
Hi.
Yes.
Good evening, Steve.
Good afternoon.
It meshes in so many ways with 9-11 terrorism, international terrorism, the global intifada.
It meshes with what happened to Charlie Kirk because, like Ben said, it's seismic, right?
And, you know, you have the tragedy, and out of that grows resilience and unification.
You know, maybe a million plus came out in London, right?
The media is saying 100,000.
But tonight, you know, over 3,000 ticket requests for this event, 45 years, 50 years of my memories of, you know, liberals gathering here, Barbara Streisand, Bruce Springsteen bashing, trashing Reagan and the whole thing.
The tide has turned here.
And Riley Gaines, I was listening to her on Bota Romo this morning, you know, said, I hope 10,000 Charlie Kirks rise in his place.
And it's going to be a lot more than that.
And you mentioned Long Island.
You know, there's organic vigils.
Just like with COVID, we sat out on the corners in the beginning, just like the tea party, the backroom meetings at the diners across the country, the small group gathering.
You know, this is what's going on now on Long Island.
There's a protest of Newsday next Saturday, who had this incredibly disgusting op-ed cartoon that the editorial board is doubling down on and supporting with an empty chair with the wound, with like blood splattered on the wall behind, you know, in the cartoon with an empty chair that was Charlie Kirk's, you know.
And I think there is going to be, there's going to be, I don't want to say payback, but there's going to be a resurgence.
And what Charlie Kirk did that we have to remember to do, and everyone needs to remember, is he kept them off their game because he was civil.
And he, you know, that was like half the battle, right?
Because these kids aren't men and they're not real women, right?
They're not adults.
And he is the youngest person in the room and was the biggest adult we've had.
So it's extraordinary times.
Okay, I tell you what, we're going to take a break.
We've got the great Nick Sortor talk about a combat correspondent.
Nick is at the tip of the spear.
steve bannon
It seems like every incident out there, one of the bravest guys and smartest guys out there.
He's at the Kennedy Center now with David and Ben Berkwam.
unidentified
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to be back in a moment.
We also have Brian Kennedy teed up.
We've got Jim Hoff, hopefully Jack Basovic.
We're going to go to the degree we can into the line and talk to MAGA, talk to the Warren Posse.
Like David Zeer said, over 3,000 ticket requests and it just went up, I don't know, 24 hours ago.
Really want to thank Real America's Voice, Parker and Rob Sig, the entire team in Denver taking their Sunday and putting this together, Real America's Voice.
We're going to have wall-to-wall coverage of everything leading up to The celebration of life for Charlie next Sunday in Phoenix, Arizona at Cardinal Stadium.
NFL Stadium has to be used to accommodate the crowd.
steve bannon
The President of the United States will be there.
unidentified
Short commercial break, back to the Kennedy Center, the prayer vigil in the nation's capital for Charlie Kirk, next in The Word.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Van.
Okay, welcome back.
Our live coverage of the prayer vigil at the Kennedy Center, our nation's capital.
We're going to be interviewing people as they come in.
The great Nick Sortor joins us.
Nick, you've been at the forefront of so many reporting so many of these amazing events.
steve bannon
Give me your assessment of what your view is of what happened, where we are, and why did you make it back to Washington for this prayer vigil?
unidentified
Man, I'm telling you, Steve, this is a little bit different than stuff that I've usually covered in the past.
And honestly, it's probably one of the most difficult stories that I've ever had to cover.
I'm covering the assassination and manhunt of a friend.
I mean, it's, I've slept very little.
I mean, some of the having to watch that video of him being taken out on loop, knowing for, you know, two days that his killer was still out there was haunting, absolutely haunting.
And I'm telling you what right now, the amount of people that have seen that video, Steve, and all of the vitriol coming from the left, normal people have been able to make that connection now, seen how bad this was, how gruesome this murder was, and how the left has reacted.
It's turning a lot of people away, regular Americans, taking them and pushing them to the right.
That's what's going on here.
And honestly, you're looking at NFL games, NASCAR races, all of these things that were woke, like BLM honoring George Floyd a couple of years ago.
They're now putting Charlie's face up on the screen in Memorial, and people are cheering.
The stadiums erupt in claps and cheers and even chants of Charlie, Charlie.
I mean, it's a beautiful thing to see.
And I think a lot of Americans have just, they're now seeing what we see on a daily basis.
nick sortor
This proved to them that the left is violent, that, you know, they'll, if they disagree with you on policy, they'll freaking kill you.
unidentified
Charlie wasn't a threat to anybody.
They know that.
But they still killed him anyway.
This is going to have lasting effects.
This is a cultural Steve.
You've done such a good job of, particularly when the left explodes, things like Portland, Seattle, the George Floyd, all of it.
You only see this peacefully.
You see prayer vigils in Long Island drawing tens of thousands of people.
You see spontaneous events occurring of young kids walking down the street, cheering, putting, you know, in Korean chanting Charlie's name.
You see it in London at Hyde Park Corner.
What do you think, what is causing this explosion and almost like a revival around the work of Charlie Kirk from many people, I think at least 80% that might not have been familiar with his work on a day-to-day basis, sir?
Well, Steve, I shared the other day on X a text that I got from my mom, who was a lifelong Democrat all growing up.
She was Obama, Obama, Obama in my house.
And she even texted me and was like, she didn't know who Charlie Kirk was before, but she started watching his videos, watching his speeches.
And she said, this encouraged me to go back and find God.
And she went to church for the first time in years this weekend.
And there were so many reports, Steve, of people saying that I couldn't even find a seat in my church.
And people were parking on the grass because they couldn't get in.
You know, like I said, we've been saying this for a long time that these people are violent and they're out to get you.
nick sortor
We're not lying.
They really are.
unidentified
And people have now seen it firsthand.
It's been confirmed.
We're not lying.
And I think we're going to continue to see that, especially among students.
You saw 3,000 students standing out there at Utah Valley University when Charlie Kirk was shot.
Each and every one of them have now been radicalized, right?
nick sortor
They just watched some leftist goon assassinate the guy that they went to go listen and talk to out on the lawn at their campus.
unidentified
And, you know, after the assassination occurred, what did the left do?
nick sortor
They went out with their normal lies.
unidentified
I mean, total lies.
They can't even say, well, we just didn't know.
nick sortor
They went out and lied and tried to say this guy was some sort of MAGA Republican when everybody, everybody and their brother knew that it wasn't some sort of MAGA Republican.
That makes no sense.
That's also been confirmed to be false.
So more and more people are seeing the light.
They're realizing that the left, honestly, there's no other way to say it.
These people are evil.
unidentified
They're evil.
Ben Berquam and David, any response to observations on the great Nick Sortor's assessment?
Nick, your coverage everywhere is amazing.
I saw you were all over during the campaign and stuff.
But I want to say that once people go back, now they're finally watching the debate videos.
They hear all the hyperbole.
What a terrible guy Charlie is.
david zere
He's a hater.
When you watch those debates, and even me, you know, going back, because he predated MAGA.
unidentified
He's, you know, of the Milton Friedman camp and Hayek and all these guys.
And not only is he smart, but the way he just dismantled the opposition at these events, I think everybody walks away saying, oh my God, I got to rethink my whole game.
david zere
And I think the world is doing that right now.
unidentified
And he did it nicely.
He did it eloquently to the point where he wasn't mean about it.
He wasn't nasty.
He didn't use ad hominems.
His delivery was so effective.
nick sortor
That's why he was a target, because he was actually able to convince people to think a different way.
unidentified
Yeah, well, in the end, that's it, Steve.
ben bergquam
He was so effective.
unidentified
Charlie did what nobody else that I've seen been able to do at the level that he was able to do it.
And that is reach the youth and start changing the paradigm.
And that, to me, is why they hated him so much.
But back to Nick's point, you know, this is what the left has said.
ben bergquam
The first four years of President Trump, it was all lies.
unidentified
We're all Nazis, we're all racist, we're all bigots, we're all homophobes.
ben bergquam
Cancel everybody on MAGA.
unidentified
You already saw that shift after they tried to assassinate President Trump, where people said, wait a second, these guys may be not what they said that they were, and MAGA may not be as bad as they said MAGA was.
Now we're seeing, I think what we saw at Butler, we're going to see on steroids now, where you have people that had sat on the fence and they said, I'm not sitting on the fence anymore.
ben bergquam
So to Nick's point, you've radicalized the base that was already MAGA to say, I'm going to, if he gave his life for this, I'm going to give my life for my country.
You've done that to 20-year-olds.
Think about the impact that that has.
20-year-olds who say they'll die for their country en masse.
unidentified
We're going to see that across America.
But you're also going to see the people that were on the fence who say, I don't believe anything these guys say anymore.
I don't believe anything the left says.
david zere
And I got word that there were like 32,000 new chapter requests for TPUSA in the past two days.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
It's amazing.
unidentified
Nick, let me ask you: is the brutality of Charlie's assassination of Charlie, the inhumanity of it, how cold-blooded it was?
Was the left playing this thing on a loop and mocking it?
Do you think that's part of the reason so many people are getting turned off and turning back and looking at Charlie's work, his body of work, in particular, touched by his body of not political work, but his body of spiritual work?
Absolutely, Steve.
I mean, you got to think about it.
nick sortor
This video was so horrifying to watch, and people saw that and they're, you know, it shook them a little bit.
unidentified
And then they saw the vitriolic reaction from the left, and they're like, oh my God, like, I got to look and see what was this guy saying that was so bad that he needed to be killed and that his killing was justified, like they killed Satan himself.
And people go back and look at it and they can't find any, not a single instance of Charlie Kirk being hateful or racist or a Nazi or anything like that.
They see a skilled debater and a visionary to sort of a guy that sounded like a founding father almost of the country with these sort of values that he was trying to instill in people.
And that really woke people up.
I mean, you look at, I think it was Stephen King the other day that tweeted out saying something really stupid, as most Stephen King tweets are, that Charlie said that gays should be stoned to death.
And he got ratioed to the Stone Age and had to retract the tweet because there was no evidence that Charlie ever said that.
It was a lie and it was made up and Stephen King had to end up deleting the tweet.
david zere
But now these terrible people have been fired.
unidentified
Doctors have been fired.
Teachers have been fired.
So I hope the kid continues to cancel culture in action.
nick sortor
They're purging themselves, which is beautiful.
unidentified
I mean, there was just an Army Colonel, I believe, that got fired today by Pete Hagsett or suspended by Pete Hagsett today.
Get the woke generals out.
Nick, before you bounce, there is a call from Governor Cox and many of the Rhino Republicans that now's a time for unity.
Now's a time to sit down with the Antifa and sit down with the left.
And we've got to tone down the rhetoric.
Since you've been at the tip of the spear, your thoughts on that.
How do you unify with people that want you dead?
How do you do it?
I don't think you can do it.
Am I wrong?
nick sortor
Like, these people have, they successfully took out Charlie, but, you know, Jack, they tried to kill his family.
unidentified
They've tried to kill my family by swatting, by trying to get them to break down the door and shoot my parents, right?
And they thought that I was there at the time, and I wasn't, luckily.
But that's what they want to do.
nick sortor
They want us dead, and they'll do it any way possible.
unidentified
I don't think there's any way to unify.
I'm sorry.
We just need to leave them in the dust.
That's it.
There is no unification, and there never will be.
We need to stop playing that card.
Stop saying both sides.
Oh, both sides are radical.
nick sortor
Both sides need to tone down the rhetoric.
Only one side is killing people on the other side.
unidentified
So.
Nick, where do people go on social media?
Your feed is like the Associated Press of MAGA.
Where do people go?
I appreciate you, Steve.
Pretty much only on X because I'll get banned everywhere else.
It's Nick Sorter, N-I-C-K-S-O-R-T-O-R.
Nick, thank you so much.
Appreciate you.
nick sortor
Thank you, Steve.
unidentified
David Zeer and Ben Berquam are at the Kennedy Center.
We're going to be interviewing more of the dignitaries that arrive for Charlie Kirk's prayer vigil.
steve bannon
We're also going to be going into the line and talking to the people who really matter.
unidentified
That would be the War Room posse, the viewers of Real America's Voice, MAGA, the base, call them what you want.
These are the working men and women that make this country what it is.
And I know everyone's been touched.
As Nick just said, church is overflowing today.
Some people have not been to church in decades.
Others, young people, have never been inside a church.
From Korea to Europe and all over the United States.
And like they said, I think it's 30,000 new chapters of Turning Point USA.
Charlie Kirk, one of the most extraordinary leaders in our country.
And I would argue you have to go back to the revolutionary generation to see someone that in his 20s changed the direction of this country.
steve bannon
Short commercial break.
We're going to go back to the Kennedy Center in just a moment.
unidentified
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steve bannon
We've postponed some of Philip Patrick's hits given the intensity of our coverage.
unidentified
Also, tomorrow, we're really going to be drilling down on actually the manhunt, what's going on right now.
I think it's quite confusing.
Some of the information and videos when I talk about that, we've got in the next hour, Jim Hoft is going to join us from Gateway Pundit, hopefully Pozo.
In the next hour, the great Brian Kennedy.
We're trying to track down Dave Bossey who's actually at the Kennedy Center, the great Dave Bossey.
As soon as we get him, we're going to talk to him.
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steve bannon
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unidentified
Like I said, thank Birch Gold for their sponsorship.
And we'll have Philip Patrick back on in the next couple of days.
Let me go to Berkwam.
I think Ben is doing a walk-in talk.
steve bannon
Ben, are you walking through the crowd?
unidentified
Right there.
Let's go to Ben Berquam live at the Kennedy Center.
Yeah, I'm just going to go down the line.
And so everybody's filing in.
Very kind of somber night tonight.
But just wanted to talk to folks and see what Charlie meant to you, what this night means to you.
How you doing?
Charlie's just one of a kind.
It means a lot.
And I'm glad we're here.
I have nothing else to say, Matt.
ben bergquam
Yeah.
unidentified
God bless you.
Okay.
Hey, Brad.
How you doing?
Hello.
Where are you from?
D.C., edge of D.C., Northwest.
What does this night mean to you?
What did Charlie mean to you?
Charlie, number one, the humanity of him and my seeing across the globe how the whole world knew more about him than I might have expected.
And special person.
You know, and I mean, I am pretty conservative, and to watch his politics, it's not mainly about politics, but he really came pretty far towards some positions that I think are more sane and needed for saving the country in the last six months.
Yeah, but special human being.
Sad day for America.
Thank you.
You want to say why you're here, what Charlie meant to you, what turning point?
Yes, it's the voice of change, a positive change in the world that was early extinguished.
And now we have a blaze coming about.
That's what it means.
I just saw today that 32,000 new chapters of Turning Point, they received the application today, so that's amazing.
So it's like a Phoenix, you know, from the ashes.
Glory for God's Almighty glory.
And I don't know if you noticed this, Steve.
We do have some young folks over here.
ben bergquam
They're going in.
unidentified
Ladies, do you mind saying where you're from and why this matters to you?
We're from North Carolina, but I'm going to go ahead.
I'm from Alabama.
Alabama.
And actually, as we're talking here, we actually have the one and only Dave Bossi just walked up.
If I can jump on, grab you real quick, sir.
Absolutely.
How are you doing?
I've had better days, but this is...
We all have.
david bossie
This is a tragedy.
unidentified
It's an American tragedy.
You know, I'm deeply, deeply distraught.
I know Steve is.
Known all of us here.
Some of us feel like you've known Charlie since he was a little, like a kid.
And what he was able to do, the impact that he had on our nation has been just tremendous.
And I'm angry.
I'm going to be somebody who is even more in the fray than receding.
There's going to be a lot of people who recede now.
david bossie
This is going to scare a lot of people.
We have to fight.
unidentified
We have to fight for this country.
david bossie
The battle of ideas that Charlie waged, we owe it to him.
unidentified
We owe it to our country.
We owe it to our kids, our grandkids.
But Charlie Kirk, what he did and what he stood for, we all have to step up.
I know Steve Bannon is.
I know that for sure.
Steve?
Ben, ask Dave.
Ask Dave, he's built one of the biggest grassroots organizations.
How tough is it for Charlie to build this massive operation?
He's built a turning point.
So Dave, you've built a massive grassroots operation, but you look at what Charlie was able to do in 31 years and really in 10 years.
You know, young guy, every time I looked at him, I was like, how old is this guy?
ben bergquam
He was younger than me.
unidentified
To be able to do what he did in the amount of time he was able to do it.
ben bergquam
Tell us what kind of person that takes.
unidentified
So let me just say, I cut my teeth in politics in the college Republicans.
david bossie
All the battles of good versus evil inside the organization, conservative versus liberals inside the organization.
unidentified
We thought at the time, in the 80s, during the Reagan years, that that was incredibly important.
It really wasn't.
I look back now and I say, Charlie Kirk got it.
He bypassed all of that, all of that, you know, real noise, okay?
david bossie
And he was right on the target long before, long before his years.
unidentified
He was so wise beyond his years.
And so he didn't waste any time.
He said, I'm not going to participate in this fraud that is the university system.
And I'm going to go and I'm going to educate.
First of all, the depth and breadth of his knowledge was just incredible.
I've been around a lot of really smart people.
I know Steve has.
david bossie
We've been honored to work alongside a lot of really smart people.
unidentified
Charlie was one of the true intellects of his time.
And he just did it on his own, on his own terms.
And that's what I just was so proud of watching him develop because you could see him argue and debate people.
And he was so knowledgeable on so many topics.
There's a lot of guys like me who do TV.
You know, you get us past 10 or 15 minutes on a topic and you're got, you know, look, I mean, that's just the reality of it, right?
Because we have to be good at a lot of different things.
And guys like, to be honest with you, guys like Steve Bannon, guys like Charlie Kirk, there's not a lot of them who have an incredible depth of knowledge on an incredible array of topics.
And that's what made Charlie different.
But his fire, his spirit, the ability for him to be positive every minute of every day was really a joy to watch.
Hey, Ben.
But Ben, ask Dave before you let him go.
steve bannon
There's so many of the typical voices telling us now we have to compromise, we have to have unity, that our rhetoric is dangerous.
Ask him his thoughts on that.
unidentified
So this is the question.
You've got this drumbeat now from some people saying it's time to unify.
It's time to kumbaya.
It's time to come together.
ben bergquam
There's basically equivocating what the left is and the right.
unidentified
They're analogous.
What's your message?
That's not my message, I can assure you.
Donald Trump is a change agent.
david bossie
He's a change agent president.
If he does not have people like us out there every single day, making sure we're using this next three and a half years to get America back on track.
unidentified
We are a nation destined for the ash heap of history.
david bossie
If Donald Trump does not utilize this next three and a half years to destroy this very swamp that he has taken over.
unidentified
And that's what Charlie Kirk understood.
See, that's the difference.
david bossie
He was not going to allow the left to get one minute of his time.
He was not going to allow the left to push him around.
unidentified
He was not going to be defeated in any argument.
And that's what we have to do.
david bossie
Charlie has, and you know, it really bothers me.
unidentified
And people say, oh, Charlie passed away.
He didn't pass away.
He was murdered.
He was assassinated.
And we have to remember that.
These people, the violent left, the violent left, that's what they are.
And they're violent Democrats, too.
We kind of use the wrong language when we say left because they're Democrats.
And I think the American people have to understand the difference between Republicans and Democrats, that these people are, that the people that are like the assassin, like these crazed leftists, like the two different individuals that tried to assassinate Donald Trump, they're vile Democrats.
And that's the problem.
And I think the American people have to wake up to that.
david bossie
And I think this great awakening that is coming because of Charlie's assassination is going to be part of that.
unidentified
The education is coming.
But we have to be smart.
We have to be thoughtful.
But we have to continue to bring pressure and we have to win.
david bossie
This is not a time for just moral equivalency.
unidentified
This is not a time for singing kumbaya.
david bossie
This is a time for Donald Trump and the Trump administration to continue their push to make America great again.
unidentified
And that's what Charlie would have wanted.
Ben, what is Dave's social media where they get his, where they get all his movies and his books?
ben bergquam
All your movies and your books.
unidentified
Where do people find you, sir?
You know, citizensunited.org.
You can see all of our stuff.
Steve, I do want to talk to you about, you know, thinking of a way to make a film utilizing this moment.
And I think you and I have to put our heads together and put it together real soon.
The great Matthew Taylor, I see the great Matthew Taylor over here.
This is an incredible moment in time.
And I think Steve, you and I have to think about how we really capture it and make it important for the American people.
I'll talk to you after the visual tonight.
Dave Bossi, thank you so much.
steve bannon
Ben Berquam, you hang right there at Kennedy Center.
Maybe you grab Matthew Taylor.
unidentified
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going out with something you hear every day as we toss from the war room to Charlie Kirk show, the Charlie Kirk bagpipes from his ancestral Scotland, which, by the way, is having vigils for Charlie Kirk.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We've got Jim Hoff, a gateway pundit.
We have Brian Kennedy.
We've got Jack Pasovic.
We're going to have more interviews from the Kennedy Center.
We're probably, I don't know, 30 minutes away from the start of the prayer vigil.
steve bannon
We will be here throughout it.
unidentified
Then with a summary afterwards.
Short commercial break.
steve bannon
We're going to leave you now with Charlie and his bagpipes.
unidentified
It is Sunday, 14 September, in the year of our Lord, 2025.
That's Charlie Kirk's famous bagpipes you hear on his show every day as we tossed here on Real America's Voice at high noon to the Charlie Kirk show five days a week.
We will toss to it tomorrow.
I don't think they've announced they're going to have some very special folks sitting in with the turning point team this week as we tossed them.
I think more about that later.
Want to go to, so we're going to go back to the Kennedy Center, the vigil, prayer vigil, with many luminaries from the Trump administration and others around town that knew Charlie are going to be there and give a few remarks.
steve bannon
There'll be some prayers, some music.
unidentified
As Sean Foytz put this together, we'll probably start at the bottom of the hour, about 6:30.
I think they're getting people in, but as soon as they do, we'll go live to the stage.
I want to bring in Jim Hoff.
Jim, you and I have known each other since the early days of the Andrew Breitbart Revolution, the Tea Party Revolution, of which, by the way, you were one of the founders in St. Louis in the very first gathering.
I always tell people that guys like Charlie Kirk, you know, we've had two in my lifetime.
steve bannon
You've had Andrew Breitbart and you've had Charlie Kirk, and of course, Donald Trump.
unidentified
These individuals come along once a generation, once every hundred years.
They're just that unique.
And I think you can see from the explosion throughout the world and just kind of self-organizing these vigils and remembrances of Charlie.
And quite frankly, most importantly today, people returning to church shows you the power of his personality and his teaching and how humble he was.
He was a guy I knew very well and never bragged about himself, never talked about himself.
Just very, very, very humble.
One thing, Jim, I wanted to have you on today is that all over the media and the mainstream media is about, and one of the reasons that Charlie Kirk was assassinated in cold blood is that Charlie Kirk was a hater and that particularly he hated gay people.
Do you have any thoughts on that or any witness, eyewitness accounts of this?
Thank you, Steve, for having me on.
It's such a sad time.
You know, I was looking through my text messages today from Charlie and something popped out to me.
jim hoft
This was a couple years ago.
unidentified
He was at his events and he would be attacked by some friends' group was attacking him and they'd be crude and they'd like to ask him about gays and gay rights and gay sex acts and put him on the spot.
They thought that that would be a good way to take Charlie Kirk down.
And, you know, Charlie could have folded.
He could have said, you know, he could have said, you know, I don't want to be around gays or anything.
You know, there's people who might do something like that.
Charlie held his ground and he took them on.
I actually sent you a message then that he sent me and it was a tweet and It includes the video of Charlie responding to one of these guys.
And I was thinking to myself, you know, Charlie didn't have to do that.
I don't talk about my sexuality.
I run Gateway Pundit.
It's one of the most powerful conservative websites in the country and the world.
And I don't talk about my, you know, who I am as a person and who I, my partner or anything.
But Charlie knew this and he sent it to me.
And I just thought, what a kind moment.
And that's who Charlie was.
jim hoft
So when I hear someone like Stephen King, that asshole, talk about how Charlie wanted to kill gays and have them stoned.
unidentified
It's not just that what the media is saying is not true, because it's not true.
These are lies about Charlie, just like they're lies about you and lies about me all the time.
It's not just that it's not true, but it's the exact opposite.
Charlie stood up for gays.
And I think that's very important that people understand that.
I think that's very important that the gay community understands that.
I think it's important that the critical mass that is waking up in America understands that.
jim hoft
Charlie was not someone out there who was spitting on gays.
unidentified
He was somebody or any other group.
Charlie was welcoming.
He started so many groups like, you know, the he took a he filled the White House with some black conservatives for one event.
jim hoft
He filled a group with pastors.
unidentified
But he wasn't shy to support somebody, you know, and wasn't afraid to say that he supported gays.
I just, it was very moving to me.
That's who Charlie Kirk was.
And I saw that today and it got me teared up a little bit because he was a truly great man and we're going to miss him.
So thank you for having me on today.
Really moving event and I'll miss Charlie.
Jim, as Gateway Pundit's always doing, like you said, you're one of the most influential conservative news sites.
You had great coverage of Turning Point Charlie over the years.
You guys have been all over this investigation.
And I'm going to tell the audience tomorrow we're really going to get into it.
steve bannon
We've been working all weekend behind the scenes and people should know there's, I think, a lot of things are going to, or some things are going to happen tomorrow that have been different up until the last 24 hours.
unidentified
But can we talk about this story?
And if Denver, I think we have it.
If you can put up, what's the story that you're breaking on Gateway Pundit this afternoon?
Well, Steve, there wasn't just one mass killing by a transsexual in the past year in this same location.
This is the second one.
jim hoft
There was another person.
unidentified
She went by the name Mia Bailey.
She caught, she shot both of her parents in a neighboring town.
And then when she was caught, she was caught in the same town as where this guy's parents live.
So this isn't the only trans mass murder in the past year or trans murder in the past year in this location.
jim hoft
So what's going on?
unidentified
And we've done a lot of digging into some of these groups that these people were communicating in.
And we think it's a much wider network than what we're hearing about already.
Jim, there's a lot of questions.
So we're going to get into that.
You know, you got Michael Savage.
You have all these Army Special Forces.
The videos don't kind of add up to the narrative.
steve bannon
I hope that that is going to be put forward tomorrow by the FBI and the Department of Justice.
unidentified
I think we get a clearer context of really having professionals instead of the governor of Utah make these presentations.
Because right now, I think there's a lot of Gateway Pundit readers and a lot of the Warren posse that are just sitting there going, you know, this looks almost too convenient.
You've got a guy that's converted to Antifa.
He's been radicalized by Antifa.
He's living with a tranny who happens to be a furry.
You've got all this evidence that just kind of pops up.
And still, like the guys in the Discord chat aren't rolled up yet, like the Boston marathon bomber roommates were.
So there's a lot of questions to be asked.
steve bannon
But you've hit on something with your coverage this afternoon as I've been over at Gateway Pundit.
unidentified
And now you see online, people are finally talking about it.
This transgender, almost terrorist, violent.
I don't know if it's an organization or self-organizing, but the hate and the violence coming out of this group nationwide.
And like you said, what you brought up today that happened, I think, in Orem didn't even make national, forget national.
I'm not even sure it made regional news that big, but this violence is much broader, much deeper, much more hate-filled than anybody's ever anticipated.
steve bannon
And this is including us watching the Minneapolis shooting, the Nashville shooting.
This thing is actually metastasizing at an increasing rate, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
And we did find out that they are, like I said, communicating on these platforms like Stream, which is a video platform.
And we looked into this.
I guess it's Steam, not Stream.
And something I don't even know anything about, basically.
It's one of these video chat groups.
And we also found out that people were talking on that same platform in that same group of transsexuals before Charlie was shot and directly afterwards about the shooting before this man was even captured.
So it's really interesting.
I understand that Kash Patel and the FBI now is investigating this group, this STEAM group.
So that's good.
I think it's a great lead, and I'm sure they're going to find out quite a bit.
Is your reporting so far leads you guys to believe that the people in this group might have had foreknowledge of this?
That this was something that didn't come as a surprise to them?
Well, we absolutely have found some comments that were put up early.
This was Cassandra Fairbanks who did this excellent work.
She continues to do a deep dive into this at Gateway Pundit.
And yes, I do believe that there was foreknowledge.
And like I said, I think they're going to find out quite a bit once they start looking at this group and these other groups that these transsexuals have been on, these radical transsexuals who ended up then now we know what they're talking about.
They're angry at Charlie Kirk, they're angry at us.
And Charlie Kirk is dead.
They shot him in the head.
And it's just awful.
steve bannon
Jim, your social media and where do people go to Gateway Pundit because your coverage is unparalleled and you've got a big team over there on the investigation of all this.
unidentified
Of course, you'll be with us for all the vigils, etc.
Where do people go?
It's gateway, thegatewaypundit.com.
And you can find us on Getter and Twitter at GatewayPundit and several others.
But most of our reporting of this will be breaking it at thegatewaypundit.com.
Jim Hoft, the founder, publisher, I think still editor-in-chief of the Gateway Pundit, one of the originals, along with Andrew Breitbart.
Thank you, sir.
jim hoft
God bless you, Steve.
unidentified
Thank you, brother.
Andrew Breitbart and Charlie Kirk.
Two of a kind.
They come along once a generation.
You can't replace them.
steve bannon
What you have to do is take their work and go forward.
unidentified
You saw with Erica Kirk her amazing remarks the other night, live, I might add.
There are very few people on this globe that can do what she did.
steve bannon
It was just incredible.
unidentified
Charlie's partner should be taking Turning Point forward.
And I think you could say it's in very good and safe hands.
We're going to take a short break.
We'll return to the Kennedy Center for the prayer vigil in the nation's capital for Charlie Kirk.
Okay, welcome back to our coverage of the prayer vigil for Charlie Kirk in our nation's capital,
in the Kennedy Center.
I think Nick Sorter said it best.
You know, this is kind of the temple of secular humanism.
It is pretty shocking to know that we're going to have a prayer vigil today with some of the top evangelical preachers.
It's going to be quite extraordinary.
steve bannon
Sean Foyt, who we had on first, a friend of the show.
unidentified
We've had him many times, followed him around the country, is going to kick things off.
I think he'll be the prayer leader.
Let's go to David Zeer.
steve bannon
David Zeer is actually inside the theater at the Kennedy Center momentarily at the bottom of the hour.
unidentified
As soon as we have Real America's Voice, we have a couple of cameras there.
As soon as they begin the ceremony, begin the event, we will go live to the stage.
steve bannon
We will be here.
unidentified
If I need to, I'll make some commentary during the event.
It should take about an hour, maybe 90 minutes.
We're going to be here afterwards to wrap up with maybe certain dignitaries that are there that we can get and get some feedback.
And also from the Warren Posse and the RAV audience that is there right now.
David Zeer, put us in the room, sir.
The line was wrapped around the building earlier.
david zere
They're filing into the concert hall here at the Kennedy Center.
unidentified
And this room holds about 2,500 plus, I believe.
And over 3,000 people have registered.
So it's going to be a full house here and waiting for the program to start at about 6.30.
It's about a two-hour program.
And Sean Foyt will be one of the opening people and the closing for the evening here.
And as you were saying, there's a long list of people here and notables.
I don't know if you went over earlier, you know, like Tulsi Gabbard and RFK, Andy Biggs and Anna Paulina, Carrie Lake, Jake Hoffman, Eli Crane.
A lot of people will be here.
And this will be a, I bet there won't be a dry eye in the house for Charlie Kirk.
David, I want to bring this up.
Was there any special security precautions coming into this?
I mean, it seats 3,000 people.
You are in the nation's capital.
Particularly the local media there, the Washington Post, there's been a lot of hate and discontent.
I think the New York Times today, there's up online some true hater they had right in op-ed.
Is your sense any raised level of security?
Yes, absolutely.
And they're very organized here.
And the staff is watching everyone closely, where you're not supposed to go.
I did hear reports earlier Secret Service was on site and that security has been beefed up for this event.
david zere
I think everybody's always on edge this weekend here in DC and others.
unidentified
But the staff seems to have their act together here.
And again, tight security, went through the metal detectors and got wandered, had to put our electronics aside, went through our bags.
Definitely tight security, yes.
David, throughout the country, these have been self-organizing over the last couple of days or throughout the world.
They've really been amazing.
Some have been very joyous, some have been somber.
What is the feeling there in the concert hall at the Kennedy Center, sir?
I believe that everybody's still in shock.
People are going about their business here to pay respects for Charlie Kirk.
I think a lot of people are still processing this and how to handle it.
And there are organic groups.
A lot of these people here, I'm sure, are involved not only in their local community, but on the national stage in the response for this.
And, you know, it's like very organic, like MAGA was organic.
And, you know, these people, you know, they're tired of being told they're the bad people for being the good people, Steve.
And that's the message that Charlie brought to the students, right?
When you couldn't go on campus 10 years ago without a table getting ripped up or, you know, collapsed on you.
I think these people are the good people of America, and they want to make sure that this doesn't happen again.
David, hang on.
I'm going to go to Brian Kennedy.
Brian, you ran Claremont.
The Claremont Institute is kind of the intellectual center.
It's become one of the intellectual center of MAGA, but for years been the intellectual center of the conservative movement.
steve bannon
I don't remember if Charlie was a Lincoln scholar or not.
I know that he learned a lot from Andrew Breitbart and from others that were.
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What is your take on the life and work of Charlie Kirk?
Well, look, Steve, first of all, thank you for doing this today.
I think Charlie Kirk was a great man.
He was a Lincoln Fellow of the Claremont Institute back in 2021.
Andrew Breitbart was a Lincoln Fellow, I would say, also back a decade before.
Both of them were warriors who believed in the country, what was good about the country.
And in the case of Charlie, Charlie's project was to remoralize this nation.
He saw that it had been demoralized and he wanted to remoralize it.
And that's a project that was near and dear to the heart of President Trump and the MAGA movement.
The goal of MAGA is to remoralize the country, to teach Americans that they have a good country that's worth defending.
Now, I would say maybe in disagreement with some of the earlier folks who said Charlie was not a Threat, Charlie was a threat.
He represented a recovery in this country of limited constitutional government, of a decency, a morality, a pro-family agenda that the American left finds abhorrent.
And President Trump was, I think, spot on on Fox News when he said that we're in a war and that there are terrorist elements in this country that would like to destroy this country.
Well, I would say to you, Steve, that you will know that we are in a war if there are 100 lawyers today, right now, at the DOJ or the FBI who are working around the clock to figure out how to dismantle the criminal parts of the American left,
whether it's George and Alexander Soros or Arabella Advisors and the way they put dark money into the system or their funding of Antifa and a variety of other left-wing causes.
You'll know you're in a war if they're finding out right now what is really going on and how you dismantle that.
This cannot be business as usual.
They have killed a leader of MAGA in a most brutal way.
And until you signal to our side that you're going to take this seriously, sure, you can find the killer in that network, and that will yield you something.
I think at the end of the day, there has to be justice for Charlie, and that will be it.
But if you really want to help save this country, you'll dismantle those networks that are operational today.
There is a Communist Party in this country.
There is Antifa.
There is the Muslim Brotherhood.
There are the Democratic Socialists of America.
These people have networks.
They have funding.
They have operatives operating at a variety of levels that are piece by piece taking this country apart still today.
The Trump administration, for all the good things it's done, is not doing this with the speed and diligence that's going to be required to actually make that a reality.
I think Charlie was pointing to this.
He understood this.
And if we're going to honor his memory at all, we have to do the necessary steps to make sure that the American left is defunded.
We're not going to silence anyone, but we're going to make sure that they're not breaking the law and that these networks are not going to, on a regular basis, be able to inspire these demons on the left that are going to create this kind of violence,
but that on a broader level are operating within our government today to make sure that our freedoms are being abridged and that they're going to look to the future to make sure that they can win elections in 2026 and 2028.
That was what made Charlie dangerous.
Charlie understood all those things.
What, and Brian, I ask you, we're going to go momentarily and take a short commercial break in a moment and then come back and go right to the main stage.
I think they'll be ready to kick things off for the prayer virtual.
Tomorrow morning, what would you like?
What are the top two or three things you would like President Trump and the administration to do to start to dismantle this, to get serious about not just tracking down the assassins, but really the infrastructure underneath it, the financing underneath it?
Because you can see from Luigi Mangioni to what's happening in New York with the Working People's Party and the DSA, there's a rise of dangerous radicalism in this country.
What would you propose is done, sir?
Well, between the Treasury Department and the FBI and the DOJ, there are how many billions of dollars being put into this political network that exists on the left.
They need to track that down today.
They need to bring in both Soros's for questioning today or tomorrow morning.
But there better be lawyers today working on this to make sure that that's a reality.
And look, you can't spend two or three billion dollars a year on these kind of operations without somebody know what's going on.
We've got to fix the FBI.
We've got to fix the DOJ.
We've got to take these things seriously.
Ask Scott Besant and his team to make sure that that money is not flowing to the wrong sources.
Find out where the money is flowing.
Stop its flow today.
And the president has to get his team in order right away.
Brian Kennedy, you're going to hang with me, but what is your social media?
I want to make sure everybody gets to your content.
You're the smartest guys in the MAGA movement.
Where do people go?
On X, it's Brian T. Kennedy 1, and on Getter, it's Brian T. Kennedy.
Thank you, Steve.
Brian, hang around.
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to go out with Nicole Newgrady's modern-day holy war, kind of a prescient song, was it not?
We're going to return and go to the main stage at the Kennedy Concert Hall, where the prayer vigil for Charlie Kirk in our nation's capital will commence back in the month.
No time to be blind.
Open your mind to see.
We're in an island day.
It's Sunday, 14th September in the year of our Lord 2025.
No one obviously thought last, was it Thursday morning, and particularly when we tossed to the Charlie Kirk show at noon from the Waram that we've done for years, that on Sunday evening, we would be in a prayer vigil in the Temple of Secular Humanism, the Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C., with an overflowing,
massive crowd coming to a vigil for Charlie Kirk because of his assassination.
Let's go to our own Ben Berquam, who's outside of the Kennedy Center as MAGA fills in.
Ben, I think we're going to start a little late because it's going to take a while to get these folks in there, is it not, sir?
Yeah, Steve, just to show you.
So this was supposed to start right now, but the line, just to get in here, it goes through these doors back here, General Vision, loops around the building inside, comes out here, goes down to the end of the Kennedy building, and then it comes all the way back and goes out the other side of the Kennedy building.
So we're talking, I mean, if they're wanting to start this thing with everyone inside, we're talking probably at least 20 minutes, half an hour.
And more people keep coming.
We've got busloads of people that have come in just for this event.
They've traveled in just for this event.
So, yes, it's incredible.
So here's what's really incredible, Ben.
You talk about the self-organizing all over the world from Korea, young kids in the streets of Korea chanting Charlie's name to Long Island, to Hyde Park in the United Kingdom.
This just came about what in the last 24 hours, and you have buses of people coming in.
They've chartered buses, and you have this massive crowd on a Sunday afternoon of which NFL football and so many other things people have to do.
So, can you go in line?
Let's go talk to some of the war room posse that's out there.
Yeah, I will.
Before we do, real quick, though, I just want to touch on something you asked, Dave, and you asked Nick.
You can't, this idea of kumbayan with these guys, you can't kumbaya with evil.
You can't compromise with evil.
That is what has gotten us to this point.
It's why the Republican Party has fallen and it's why MAGA ascended.
It's because we compromised with evil too long, and now Charlie Kirk is dead because of it.
Unless you want to die, that's the ultimate, that's what compromise with evil is.
That's what compromise with the left is.
It's choosing suicide.
We cannot do that, but we have to do it in a righteous way.
But let's go down here and just talk to some of the folks.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, Ben.
Hang on one second.
Ben, hang on one second.
I want to follow up on that.
You went and covered, you know, you were there with Charlie on the recount in Arizona.
You did all these turning point events.
Mo went to all these turning points events.
We went to many of them.
We did live.
You know, as you remember, you were there.
We did live at all the big turning point events.
Charlie Kirk, here's what I tell people.
Charlie Kirk was the most humble, decent, good man, one of the best I've ever met.
If they're going to assassinate and gun down Charlie Kirk at 31 years old, a father, a loving husband with two small children, one, what, three years old, the other one-year-old, they'll murder anybody.
They targeted the best that we have to offer, the best this country has to offer.
And that's what I say.
There's no compromise.
You can't compromise with that.
And people, these politicians on TV that say, oh, no, we need unity.
There's nothing to unify with.
There is nothing to unify.
Unless you want to unify with evil, unless you want to unify with demons and satanic powers, then tell me what you're unifying with.
This is not about unity.
This is about victory.
Ben Berqua.
Yeah, no, it's, you know, it's cliché now, but it's the Wilt Chamberlain.
You know, it's peace in our time.
That's what they're asking us to do.
They're asking us to turn our backs and get shot in the back or stabbed in the back, and we won't do it.
We've done it for too long.
We've seen it too many times.
I've been doing this.
You've been doing this.
I've been attacked.
I've got the stitches and the spit in my mouth to prove it.
I've been attacked in a hundred different ways by these people, and there is no compromise.
In fact, there's not even any common ground.
I started my action actually on college campuses as well, and I would go out and just try to find common ground.
And for trying to do that, I was attacked.
I had my MAGA hat stolen.
I got beat over the head with sticks.
You know, you look at that, and I had to make the choice early on in my career.
Was this worth it?
Is it worth putting my life on the line to do this fight?
And ultimately, I came down to, I have to.
I'm a husband and a father.
I'm the protector of my wife and my children.
I have to do this.
It's what God has called me to do to be that protector in my family and the protector for this nation.
If we don't do it, if the men of this nation don't rise up and stand up and say, no more, not on our watch, we're not having it.
Yeah, we follow the God of the New Testament and the Old Testament.
And there's a time for righteousness.
There's a time for mercy, but there's also a time for wrath.
We follow God's word in that.
But ultimately, it's the men's job, the protectors of this nation, to stand up and fight this fight.
Ben, let's get to some of the posse and some of the MAGA movement folks that are in line.
We're going to go down the line.
Now, you don't have to say it.
I know it's a tough day, but we're trying to find out what Charlie meant to you and what this night means to you.
Moms for Liberty.
I'm Moms for Liberty, Cumberland County, chapter chair.
Charlie Kirk was the leader of a movement that started almost everything for all of us, other movements that we joined up together and he meant everything to us.
And I want to say a Bible verse.
That's what that verse is.
It's Romans 8, 28.
For all things work together for good to them that love the Lord, for those who are called according to his purpose.
And he was called for this purpose.
And I'm going to rejoice that he is in heaven with his heavenly father.
And I'm going to rejoice because I believe our country's at a turning point.
And I think people are going to see Jesus more than ever and be unafraid to speak because of him.
God bless you.
Yeah.
God bless you.
Charlie Kirk reminded me a lot of my son.
He was the same age as my son.
My son had passed away when he was 22.
But the boldness that Charlie Kirk had to preach the gospel, everything he talked about, he segued into the gospel.
And that to me was like so powerful.
And it just shows that we need to be bold as Christians.
We need to speak out.
We need to use our voice to reach people for Jesus Christ.
And that, to me, makes him the martyr that he was.
His life seemed to exemplify everything that he preached.
And I just, it is a sad loss, but what it has stirred up, what the movement that this has created, I just pray that those that have listened to him will take heed to his most earnest plea to them, and that is seek Christ.
Seek Jesus Christ.
Find out who he is.
If this many people are talking about him, you ought to know who he is.
Find out who he is.
He's everything he's ever promised to be.
And Jesus Christ is alive.
If Jesus is alive, then Charlie Kirk is alive.
And Jesus Christ is alive.
So Charlie Kirk is alive.
And I will see him again.
And I thank God for that, for that assurance.
My answer is very quick.
I am not a perfect messenger.
A lot of us aren't.
We're all sinners.
But Charlie Kirk has reminded me how important it is to share the gospel and to love like Jesus and to just tell people about Jesus.
And I'm going to make sure my son knows that and make sure I grow him and let him become that kind of man that he shares the gospel with others as well.
Because everything else is not a kingdom issue, but that is.
And we're grateful to Charlie for showing us how to do that with grace.
Thank you for doing this.
What's your son's name?
This is Grant.
Grant, Lord, we just play a special blessing on Grant, on all the young people, this nation.
Lord, bless and keep them.
Make your face to shine upon them.
Be gracious unto them and raise Grant and this next generation up into the warriors that you'd have them to be.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Thank you, Lord.
Thank you.
Amen.
Thank you.
You guys want to jump in?
What Charlie meant to you, why you're here today?
No pressure, but.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
You want me to hold you?
Sure, thanks.
No pressure.
We are live.
No, no, no, you're good.
I mean, Charlie means my generation.
I'm 32, so I've followed him since we both, since he started, and we were both growing up through college, which is a really hard time for a lot of young people.
And he, to me, he means that we can share who we are and what we believe.
And unfortunately, he was not able to share that in a way that everyone accepted.
But he shared it with an astounding amount of people, and his legacy is going to live on forever.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
My name is Jessica.
I'm from Alabama.
Did you come just for this?
No, I was already here, but glad to be able to attend this event.
God bless you.
Steve, just look at this line.
It's everybody.
You got young people, you got their families, you got parents, you got kids, you got grandparents, you got everybody.
The amount of people that Charlie Kirk touched, the ripples, we will never see.
We'll never know the end until we get to heaven.
But it's incredible.
Ben, Ben, hold right there.
That commentary is better than anything we've had.
So you just stick right there.
Hang on.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to return in a moment.
We're going to go to the Kennedy Center.
We're going to start a little late, as you can tell, because of the overwhelming number of people.
I don't know how they're going to get into the concert hall.
I think they'll have an overflow room because there are thousands and thousands and thousands.
They had 3,000 in advance.
Looks like many more have shown up.
We're going to show everything, of course.
Take a short commercial break.
Ben's going to return.
We're going to return to outside.
The best commentary so far has been by guess what?
MAGA.
Just people right there self-organizing.
Short commercial break.
We're going to return to the Kennedy Center for the prayer vigil for Charlie Kirk.
Looks like we're going to start a little late, but that's okay.
This is the kind of night that you hope never ends.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
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