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Sept. 15, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4777: Washington D.C. Prayer Vigil For Charlie Kirk
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david bossie
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david zere
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jim hoft
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nick sortor
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sean feucht
05:18
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steve bannon
24:52
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michael savage
01:00
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spencer cox
01:46
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aaron gilchrist
00:26
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andrew mccabe
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chris hayes
00:45
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donald j trump
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jon kahn
00:41
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jon scott
00:17
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kasie hunt
00:23
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rob damico
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tom winter
00:41
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unidentified
Shots fired during a speech by right wing activist Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University in Orim.
This happened really just moments ago.
Kirk was about 20 minutes into his speech when shots were fired from a nearby building.
kasie hunt
There was a single shot that rang out.
He was shot in the neck.
And now the president of the United States, someone that Charlie Kirk was close to, is reporting that he has died.
tom winter
They did detain an individual, somebody who's uh well known to them in that area, charged with obstruction of justice after the shooting.
chris hayes
We are, of course, following the breaking news out of Utah right now.
And I just want to sort of clarify where we are right now.
There was back and forth about whether a suspect, a person of interest or a subject had been apprehended.
There was an individual in custody.
Just moments ago, we got information from FBI Director Rector Cash Patel that that person has been released after an interrogation by law enforcement, which would lead one to conclude that the suspect, whoever pulled pulled this off, whoever uh committed this heinous act, is at large.
We don't yet know who uh did this.
We don't know their motives.
Um, and it it it very well may be, as was the case, I think, uh, in the wake of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, that those motives or politics were illegible, inscrutable, something of a black box.
unidentified
I did hear the governor of Utah, somebody that I generally trust, um, call this a political assassination.
Maybe he has information that the rest of us don't.
tom winter
They were able to set up without detection, had done some sort of planning.
unidentified
Where Kirk is, he's kind of down in a bowl with a tent.
tom winter
So this person was able to set up far enough away where they knew that they could be, and yet at a low enough of an angle where they could fire a single shot, high center mass, and then have the discipline to leave immediately after.
Now the question becomes who is this person?
Why did they specifically do it?
kasie hunt
Police announced that they've recovered what they believe to be the murder weapon.
A high-powered rifle alongside ammunition and a screwdriver in a wooded area near the crime scene.
unidentified
Salt Lake City's FBI posting, we are asking for the public's help, identifying this person of interest in connection with the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University.
tom winter
Explicitly said that they had imagery of this individual in the stairwell arriving at the school.
And then this person of interest uh jumps off the roof into a local neighborhood, at some point dumps uh the gun in a wooded area where they said they recovered it.
rob damico
They probably figured out the pictures are not enough uh granularity to do facial recognition through their systems that they were going to now uh ask the public.
And and the public is uh forced multiplier.
donald j trump
I think just to protect us all, and so Fox doesn't get sued and we all don't get sued and everything else, but I think uh with a high degree of certainty, we have him.
In custody, right?
In custody.
unidentified
U.S. media are now reporting that the suspect is 22-year-old Tyler Robinson.
So we do now have a name circulating.
President Trump made the arrest announcement, even as he said he might not be getting all the details right.
Uh, we heard him say that, but there are still questions.
aaron gilchrist
It was a family member and a family friend who helped deliver Tyler Robinson to law enforcement in Washington County.
Considerable distance between here and there that Robinson was able to go before he ultimately was brought into custody.
Investigators were also able to look at some messages they say between uh Mr. Robinson and his roommate uh on his roommate's phone, and uh there was a reference to a rifle in some of those messages.
unidentified
It seemed as though he was trying to get the roommate to go after and recover the gun.
Uh but that's my my speculation on it.
33 hours is a very short period of time uh to go from nothing as far as an ID to being able to have this guy in custody.
spencer cox
Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read, hey fascist exclamation point, catch exclamation point, up arrow symbol, right arrow, and uh symbol and three down arrow symbols.
A second unfired casing read, O Bella Chow, Bella Chow, Bella Chow, Chow Chow, and a third unfired casing read.
unidentified
If you read this, you are gay, L M-A-O.
So O Bella Chow, that is a song glorifying the partisans who fought against the fascists and the occupying Nazis in Italy during the Second World War.
And later, when the governor was asked about a motive, he said, Well, maybe you don't need to look any further than those words, hey, fascist catch.
andrew mccabe
And the chats are remarkable to me because the idea that an assassin who has gone to this level of planning, he's traveled over a hundred miles from his own home to execute this crime, who thought through showing up in one set of clothes, changing his clothes to commit the crime, changing back to try to escape.
And then a big piece of that escape was dropping the rifle in an area, uh, possibly dismantling it, but also wrapping it in a towel so he could go back and retrieve it later.
Apparently, he shared that part of his plan with his roommate.
jon scott
A Fox News Alert, FBI sources tell Fox News Digital that the man charged with assassinating Charlie Kirk was living with a transgender partner.
They say that individual is fully cooperating with their investigation.
Claims to have had no idea of Robinson's plan.
unidentified
What more have we learned about the suspect and are investigators any closer to finding a motive?
No, no, no known motive, I should say in this case.
What we've been hearing from investigators, which is that Robinson appeared to have a romantic relationship with his roommate.
The roommate is somebody that identifies this transgender transitioning from male to female, and that that roommate by all accounts has been incredibly cooperative with the investigation, is answering questions.
spencer cox
This was uh a very normal young man, uh a very uh very smart young man, 4-0 student.
I believe that social media has played a direct role in every single assassination and assassination attempt that we have seen over the last five, six years.
There is no question in my mind that cancer probably isn't a strong enough word.
Uh, what we have done, especially to our our kids, uh, it took us a decade to realize how how evil um these algorithms are.
What we know so far, there are a couple things that we can confirm that have been reported.
Uh we can confirm that uh that that again, according to family and people that we're interviewing, uh he he does come from a conservative family, uh, but his ideology was very different than his family, and uh so that's part of it.
Um we do know that uh that the the roommate that we had originally talked about, we can confirm that that roommate is uh is uh a boyfriend who is transitioning from male to female, so we know that piece.
I will say that that person has been very cooperative uh with with authorities, and uh we we have additional evidence, forensic evidence that has been processed.
Uh we'll be uh we'll be sharing that uh when when charges are filed on Tuesday.
unidentified
You say he admitted that confessed.
spencer cox
No, not not again.
He is he has not confessed to um to authorities.
He he is he is uh he is not cooperating.
michael savage
So we saw a video of a person jumping off the roof.
It looked very legitimate to me.
However, there was no rifle in his hand.
Now, the Mauser does not break down very easily, incidentally, for those of you who know weapons.
Something's wrong with the whole thing.
They're trying to claim he removed the barrel from the Mauser and fit the receiver and stock in his backpack and barrel in his pants like all in two seconds.
It is not easy to remove a Mauser barrel or index it after reinstalling and remain accurate.
We are not hearing or seeing reality.
And by the way, the photo of the rifle allegedly left in the woods, has the barrel installed.
So we're supposed to believe a guy is on the run after killing Charlie Kirk, and he pauses in the woods to reinstall a barrel, and then he leaves it for us to find the FBI to find.
I don't believe a word of it.
steve bannon
It's Sunday, 14th September in the year of our Lord 2025.
We're going live right now to the Kennedy Center in the nation's capital, Washington, DC.
We have a complete uh Real America voice team there, David Zier, Ben Burkwam.
Uh, we've got many of our contributors are gonna go for the first hour.
Uh, this is gonna start between six and six thirty, the prayer vigil for Charlie Kirk, one of many uh throughout the United States and the world.
We have uh uh really the the spiritual leader who's gonna lead us in this uh Sean Foyt is with us.
Uh, Sean's got a bounce backstage, get all this organized.
Sean, uh, what is the purpose of this today?
What do you help to accomplish?
This is a major cultural uh center in Washington.
You've got a who's who of names uh from the government uh in the Trump MAGA movement uh coming on stage today.
What do you hope to you you were very close to Charlie?
What do you hope to accomplish?
sean feucht
You know, it just uh what a heartbreaking week, what a devastating week.
And you know, only God can take this and use it for his glory, and that's what we're seeing today.
I mean, churches were slam packed today across America.
People are leaning back into faith.
I get I got several messages as did many people uh of people that hadn't been to church in 15, 20, even 30 years, and because of Charlie, they're going back.
Why?
Because all his videos of him preaching the gospel on campuses have gone viral.
And it's like what the enemy meant for evil, God is flipping it around.
And so tonight, I mean, it's only the irony and the and the beauty that we're here in the Kennedy Center, which used to be the center of wokeness, and we are here tonight worshiping, praying, sharing testimonies of Charlie, probably gonna do an altar call.
I mean, who knows?
Like God is gonna move, and we're doing it in the Kennedy Center, Steve.
I mean, this is like this is a total God setup.
steve bannon
No, I I think it's incredible, particularly with the different preachers and uh the different spiritual leaders uh that are gonna be there.
Um talk to me about your your ministry and Charlie Kirk.
You've gone throughout the country, I've known you for years.
You've been harassed and hassled uh and attacked by many of the forces on the left.
Talk to us about your ministry and and how it's had to go through this brutally dark time in American history.
sean feucht
Well, I want to just say, I mean, tonight, obviously, we're focusing on the legacy of Charlie.
And I I mean, I there's a lot of uh my ministry I could talk about and things that God's having us do and the season that we're in.
But I just want to honor him because you know, when when in COVID, like when we were pushing back, and God was you know, had this call on us to bring let us worship to defy the regulations to push back against the government and the tyrannical overreach and those that were trying to silence us, you know.
Charlie was in our corner, and many pastors and leaders across America weren't.
And and there was a lot of friendly fire that I was taking personally and other leaders of faith, but Charlie was always championing us like go harder, Sean, go for it.
Like this is the hour.
You know, he was such a a guy that cheered on his friends, like he was a true encourager.
And you know, I I feel like tonight, like uh even being here, like thousands of people, Steve, are gonna gather here tonight, and millions more will watch what takes place online.
And it's like today it's about extending the legacy.
It's about taking the baton of courage and boldness.
And it's like, you know, just like the the martyrs throughout history, you know, we we know that the that the uh the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church.
And you know, we have that Bible verse that says, unless this unless a seed falls to the ground and dies, it won't bear fruit.
And Charlie's life is a seed, and we are going to see the harvest.
We're already seeing the harvest.
But the harvest that's coming for his life, revival is the revenge in America, revival is the revenge, and we're gonna see it a revival.
We're gonna see an awakening and just the fact that even tonight, in this once godless place, the Kennedy Center.
Tonight we're gonna be singing hymns, playing cellos and guitars, lifting up our voices in prayer.
I mean, it just it's gonna be so special.
And we're just tonight, we just want to celebrate him and and we want to see his legacy endure in the next generation.
steve bannon
Sean, last question.
I know you gotta get backstage because you're kind of organizing this tonight and and leading it.
Um it's been pretty stunning throughout the world, from Korea to Europe to uh to London, uh, throughout the United States, huge on Long Island, just all over the country.
Spontaneous, spontaneous reactions, spontaneous vigils today, you're correct.
Reports all over churches were absolutely packed, particularly people who haven't been in in a couple of decades, and or young people.
Well What is it about Charlie Kirk?
What is about his life, his mission that's causing this spontaneous outbreak throughout the world?
sean feucht
Well, I mean, he was unapologetically bold.
He was a truth teller that never backed down.
But but he did it in such a way, he was joyful.
And this is a thing that I think is so powerful.
And I would encourage every young leader and every young person that wants to change the world.
Like the thing I love so much about Charlie, and we used to talk about this a lot in our conversations, actually, just a few days before, you know, he went home to be with the Lord, talking about this, the joyful warrior.
Like, what does it look like to actually uh overcome evil with good, but do it with joy.
Like we don't have to be the grumpy, angry, perpetually frustrated conservatives.
Like we can sit in the seat of joy because we know the end of the story.
We know that good wins.
We know that even this week it's just so dark and difficult and hard.
I was in, I was with Charlie's pastor last night, Pastor Rob McCoy in Los Angeles at the at the church that we went to a lot together, and just the heaviness and the sobriety, but yet in the midst of that all, like God, he didn't cause this, but yet he's going to use this.
And you know, I uh that's my encouragement tonight.
It there's something that's infectious that Charlie had about his joy going into these campuses where the vitriol and the the animosity, I mean, we've experienced that in our meetings.
We get it too, like that just the rage, but yet in the midst of that, he's smiling at these at these kids while telling them the truth.
And I think that is so powerful in this generation.
And so I think that the cur I think courage is contagious, and I think joy is profound in moments like that.
And that's my prayer, even as we leave here tonight that we would carry uh the joyful warrior that Charlie Kirk was to the world.
steve bannon
Uh Sean, what is your social media?
How do people go find out more about your ministry?
sean feucht
Um, they can go to uh at Sean Foyt.
It's my last name is F-E-U-C-H-T.
They can go to Let Us Worship, and we're on all social media channels, um, Facebook, Instagram, you can go to X Follow Me, YouTube, all that good stuff.
steve bannon
Thank you, Sean.
Appreciate you taking time before the uh event.
sean feucht
Honored.
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Let's do a reset we have.
Thank you, brother.
We have uh we have Ben Burquam and David Zier.
Um a good of those guys.
We have many other people showing up that we'll be able to get.
Um, can we go back to Ken?
Oh, I tell you what we're gonna do.
We'll take uh we had to do a rolling break here.
Let's take a short commercial break.
Are we ready?
Can we do that?
Short commercial break.
We're gonna return.
We're live at the Kennedy Center for a prayer vigil in the nation's capital for Charlie Kirk.
Back in a moment.
jon kahn
I got American Paul.
I got American play.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen Kaman.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back uh to our special coverage of the prayer vigil at the Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C. Uh, the uh event uh doors will open at six o'clock.
Uh we're doing a little pregame here.
Uh folks will get in there and about 6:30, they're gonna kick off and I'll go probably an hour to 90 minutes, and we will cover this wall to wall.
We have our own Ben Burquam and David Zier there.
Uh Ben, uh, give me your thoughts.
Uh, you've had you've been all over the country recently on raids.
Uh I know you were close to Charlie Kirk and the uh and the turning point team.
Uh your thoughts about today.
ben bergquam
Yeah, uh, you know, Steve, it when I heard the news just like everyone else, it's one of those you you live life, and sometimes you just get into life so much, you you forget things like this happen.
And when it happened, you just think, oh, he's he's gonna be okay, right?
It's gonna be okay.
And then you go, oh, it's in the neck.
Well, that's bad.
And then you see the video, and it was like that moment that's surreal, and it's been surreal ever since.
It's every morning I wake up.
It's just like when you lose anyone in your family.
Every morning you wake up with that false hope that they're still there, uh that it was just a bad dream, uh nightmare, and now you get to see them again.
And and I and I see, you know, every morning that's what's happening for me.
You know, Charlie was such a such a major person, not just uh in my life and in watching him grow, but the world.
And I I think about this, Steve.
You know, most people when they die make very little impact in the world outside of their immediate family and friends.
They're, you know, they're they're they're drops, they're a rock dropped in a pond.
Charlie Kirk was an earthquake in the ocean, and his ripples that we're seeing just starting now.
Uh it this is a tsunami that's coming around, not just like you said, not just America, but the world.
What we saw in England yesterday, what we've seen in South Korea, what we've seen in other Asian countries, Japan, all of these nations that realize that this battle that we're fighting in America is their battle too, that MAGA and and nobody other than President Trump yourself and Charlie Kirk uh emulated that more.
They realize that if they can kill this person in America, that they can kill anybody.
But the amazing thing, what Sean said to me, the amazing part about it is what has already been unleashed.
I mean, you think about this, this was like a cluster bomb.
You hit Charlie, and it's devastating for his wife and for his kids and for his parents.
But what they did, what the enemy did, what this demon did was unleash millions of Charlies that that were being prepared for such a time as this.
They were being prepared through TP USA to fight the battle that they're being sent into now.
And so I going back to Sean's point, ironically, we're standing in the Kennedy Center.
What the enemy meant for evil is exploding back in their face already, and I'm just waiting to see the fruits of this uh that come out.
I still continue to say, pray for obviously the family, pray for truth to come out in this investigation.
But ultimately, I'm just sitting back saying, Lord, have your will, send us, make this generation bold to fight these battles.
steve bannon
David Zier, you've covered this extensively since the 1990s, everything that happened in New York City, the World Trade Center the first time, uh 9-11, all of it.
You know the whole global chess piece here.
President of the United States said the other day, we're at war uh against this radical uh ideology.
Of course, now it looks like he's pointing to this these training, you know, terra cells.
But we still, there's so much that hasn't been explained, and you know, t tomorrow on the war, we're gonna get into all of it in a lot of detail, maybe even tonight, have Jim Hoffman some people.
But Zir, what are your what are your thoughts?
You've been like a combat correspondent on this for years.
Your thoughts.
david zere
Hi, yes, good evening, uh Steve, good afternoon.
Uh it meshes in so many ways, you know, with 9-11 terrorism, uh, international terrorism, uh, the global into Fada.
Uh it meshes with what happened to Charlie Kirk, because like Ben said, it's seismic, right?
And you know, you have the tragedy, and out of that grows resilience and unification.
You know, maybe a million plus came out in London, right?
The media saying 100,000.
Um, but um tonight, you know, over 3,000 ticket requests for this event, 45 years, 50 years of my memories of, you know, liberals gathering here, Barbara Streisand, Bruce Springsteen bashing, trashing Reagan and the whole thing.
The tide has turned here, and Riley Gaines, I was listening to her on Botaromo this morning, you know, said I hope 10,000 Charlie Kirks rise in his place.
And it's gonna be a lot more than that.
And you mentioned Long Island, you know, there's organic vigils, just like with COVID.
We sat out on the corners in the beginning, just like the tea party, the back room meetings at the diners across the country, the small group gathering.
Um, you know, this uh is what's going on now on Long Island as a protest of News Day next Saturday, who had this incredibly disgusting op-ed cartoon that the editorial board is is doubling down on and supporting with an empty chair with the wound, you know, with with like blood splattered on the wall behind, you know, in the in the cartoon uh with an empty chair that was Charlie Kirk's, you know.
And um I think um there is gonna be um there's gonna be uh I don't want to say payback, uh, but there's gonna be a resurgence.
And what Charlie Kirk did that we have to remember to do, and everyone needs to remember, is he kept them off their game because he was civil.
And he, you know, that was like half the battle, right?
Because these kids aren't men, and they're not real women, Right.
They're not they're not adults.
And he is the youngest person in the room and was the biggest adult we've had.
So it's uh it's extraordinary times.
steve bannon
Okay, um I tell you what, we're gonna take a break.
We've got the great Nick Sortor.
Talk about a combat correspondent.
Nick is at the tip of the spear.
It seems like every incident out there, one of the bravest guys and smartest guys out there.
He's at the Kennedy Center now with David and Ben Burquam.
We're gonna take a short commercial break.
We're gonna be back in a moment.
Uh we also have Brian Kennedy teed up.
We've got uh Jim Hoff, hopefully Jack Basobik.
We're gonna go to the degree we can into the line and talk to MAGA, talk to the Warren Posse, like David Zier said over 3,000 ticket requests, and it would just went up, I don't know, 24 hours ago.
Really want to thank Real America's voice, Parker and Rob Sig, the entire team in Denver, taking their Sunday and putting this together, Real America's Voice.
We're gonna have wall-to-wall coverage of everything leading up to the uh the uh the uh celebration of life for Charlie next Sunday in Phoenix, Arizona at Cardinal Stadium.
NFL Stadium has to be used to accommodate the crowd.
The president of the United States will be there.
Short commercial break, back to the Kennedy Center, the prayer vigil in the nation's capital for Charlie Kirk, next in the Word.
unidentified
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Back.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back, our live uh coverage of the prayer vigil at the Kennedy Center, our nation's capital.
Uh, we're gonna be interviewing people as they come in.
The great Nick Sortor uh joins us.
Nick, you've been at the forefront of so many reporting uh so many of these uh amazing events.
Give me your assessment of uh uh what your view is of what happened, where we are, uh, and uh why did you make it back to Washington for this prayer vigil?
nick sortor
Man, I'm telling you, Steve, this is uh a little bit different than stuff that I've usually covered in the past, and honestly, it's probably one of the most difficult stories that I've ever had to cover.
I'm I'm covering the assassination and manhunt of a friend.
I mean, it it it's uh I I've slept very little.
I mean, some of the having to watch that video of him being taken out on loop, knowing for you know two days that his killer was still out there, was haunting, absolutely haunting.
Uh and I I'm telling you what right now, the amount of people that have seen that video, Steve, and uh and all of the vitriol coming from the left.
Normal people have been able to make that connection now.
Seeing how bad this was, how gruesome this murder was, and how the left is react, it's turning a lot of people away, regular Americans taking them and pushing them to the right.
That's what's going on here.
And I and honestly, you're looking at uh NFL games, NASCAR races, all of these things that uh that were woke, like BLM honoring uh George Floyd a couple of years ago.
They're now putting Charlie's face up on the screen in memorial, and people are cheering.
The the stadiums erupt in claps and and and cheers and even chance of Charlie.
Charlie, I mean it's a beautiful thing to see.
Uh and I think a lot of Americans have just they're now seeing what we see on a daily basis.
This proved to them that the left is violent, that you know, they'll if they disagree with you on policy, they'll freaking kill you.
Charlie wasn't a threat to anybody, they know that, but they still killed him anyway.
This is gonna have lasting effects.
unidentified
This is a cultural step.
steve bannon
Now, you've done such a good job of uh particularly when the left explodes, things like Portland, Seattle, uh, you know, the George Floyd, all of it.
Uh you only see this peacefully.
You see prayer vigils in Long Island drawing tens of thousands of people.
You see spontaneous uh events occurring of young kids walking down the street cheering, putting, you know, in Korean chanting Charlie's name.
You see it in London at Hyde Park Corner.
What what do you think?
What is causing this explosion and almost like a revival around the work of Charlie Kirk from many people, I think at least 80% that might not have been familiar with his work on a day-to-day basis, sir.
nick sortor
Well, Steve, I uh I shared the other day on X a text that I got from my mom, who was a lifelong Democrat all growing up.
She was Obama Obama Obama in my house.
And she even texted me and was like, she didn't know who Charlie Kirk was before, but she started watching his videos, watching his speeches, and she said this and this encouraged me to go back and find God.
And she went to church for the first time in years this weekend.
There were so many reports, Steve, of people saying that I couldn't even find a seat in my church, and people were parking on the grass because they couldn't get in.
You know, uh like I said, we've been saying this for a long time that these people are violent and they're out to get you.
We're not lying.
They really are.
And people that's people have now seen it firsthand.
It's been confirmed.
You know, we're we're not we're not lying.
Uh and I think we're gonna continue to see that, especially among uh students.
You saw 3,000 students standing out there uh at Utah Valley University when Charlie Kirk was shot.
Each and every one of them have now been radicalized, right?
They just watched some leftist goon assassinate the guy that they went to go listen and talk to out on the lawn at their campus.
And uh, you know, after the assassination occurred, what did the left do?
They went out with their normal lies, I mean total lies.
They they can't even say, well, we just didn't know.
They went out and lied and tried to say this guy was some sort of MAGA Republican.
When everybody, everybody and their brother knew that it wasn't some sort of MAGA Republican.
That makes no sense.
That's also been confirmed to be false.
So more and more people are seeing the light.
They're realizing that the left, honestly, I there's no other way to say it.
These people are evil.
They're evil.
steve bannon
Uh Ben Burkwam and David, any response to observations on uh the great Nick Sortor's assessment.
david zere
Uh Nick, your coverage everywhere is amazing.
I saw you were all over during the campaign and stuff.
Um, but I I want to say that once people go back, now they're finally watching the debate videos.
They hear all the hyperbole.
What a terrible guy Charlie is.
He's a hater.
When you watch those debates, and even me, like you know, going back, because he predated MAGA.
He's uh, you know, of the Milton Friedman camp and Hayek and all these guys.
And not only is he smart, but the way he just dismantled the opposition at these events, I think everybody walks away saying, Oh my god, I gotta rethink my whole game.
And I think the world is doing that right now.
nick sortor
And he did it nicely.
He did it eloquently to the point where he wasn't mean about it, he wasn't nasty, he didn't use ad hominems.
He was his delivery was so effective.
That's why he was a target, because he was actually able to convince people to think a different way.
ben bergquam
Yeah, well, and that in the end, that's it, Steve.
He was so effective at what Charlie did what nobody else that I've seen been able to do at the level that he was able to do it, and that is reach the youth and start changing the paradigm.
And that to me is why they hated him so much.
Uh, but back to to Nick's point, you know, this is what the left has said.
The first four years of President Trump, it was all lies.
We're all Nazis, we're all racists, we're all bigots, we're all homophobes.
Cancel everybody on MAGA.
You already saw that shift after they tried to assassinate President Trump, where people said, wait a second, these guys may be not what they said that they were, and MAGA may not be as bad as they said MAGA was.
Now we're seeing, I think what we saw uh at Butler, we're gonna see on steroids now, where you have people that had sat on the fence and they said, I'm not sitting on the fence anymore.
So to Nick's point, you've radicalized the base that was already MAGA to say, I'm gonna if he gave his life for this, I'm gonna give my life for my country.
You've done that to 20-year-olds.
Think about the impact that that has.
20-year-olds who say they'll die for their country on mass.
We're gonna see that across America.
But you're also gonna see the people that were on the fence who say, I don't believe anything these guys say anymore.
I don't believe anything the left says.
david zere
And uh, I got word that there were like 32,000 new chapter requests for TPUSA in the past two days.
steve bannon
Yes.
It's amazing.
Nick, um let me ask you is uh the brutality of Charlie's uh the assassination of Charlie, the inhumanity of it, how cold-blooded it was uh was the left playing this thing on a loop and mocking it.
Uh do you think that's do you think that's um part of the reason so many people are getting turned off and turning back and looking at Charlie's work, the bot his body of work, and particularly touched by his body of uh not political work, but his body of spiritual work.
nick sortor
Uh absolutely, Steve.
I mean, you you gotta think about it.
This video was so horrifying to watch, and people saw that, and they're you know, that it shook them a little bit, and then they saw the vitriolic reaction from the left, and they're like, oh my god, like I gotta look and see what was this guy saying that was so bad that he needed to be killed and that his killing was justified, like they killed Satan himself.
And people go back and look at it and they can't find any, not a single instance of Charlie Kirk being hateful or racist or a Nazi or anything like that.
They they see a skilled debater and a visionary to uh sort of like a guy that sounded like a founding father almost of the country with uh these sort of values that he was trying to instill in people, and that that really woke people up.
I mean, you look at uh I think of Stephen King the other day that tweeted out saying something really stupid, as most Stephen King tweets are, uh, that Charlie said that gays should be stoned to death.
And he got ratioed to the Stone Age and had to retract the tweet because there was no evidence that Charlie ever said that.
It was a lie, and it was made up, and Stephen King had to end up deleting the tweet.
david zere
But now these terrible people have been fired.
Yeah, oh that is have been fired, teachers have been fired.
unidentified
Uh so I hope a kid continues cancel culture in action.
nick sortor
They're purging themselves, which is beautiful.
I mean, there was just a an army colonel, I believe, that got fired today by uh Pete Hag or uh suspended by Pete Hagste today.
So get the woke generals out.
steve bannon
Nick, before you before before you bounce, uh there's a there is a call from like Governor Cox and many of the Rhino Republicans that now's a time to um for unity.
Now's a time to sit down and uh with the Antifa and sit down with the left.
Uh and uh and we've got to tone down the rhetoric.
Since you've been at the tip of the tip of the spear, your thoughts on that.
nick sortor
How do you unify with people that want you dead?
How do you do it?
I don't think you can do it.
Am I am I wrong?
Like I these people have they they successfully took out Charlie, but you know, Jack, they they tried to kill his family.
They've tried to kill my family by swatting by trying to get them to break down the door and shoot my parents, right?
And they thought that I was there at the time, and I wasn't, luckily.
But that's what they want to do.
They want us dead, and they'll do it any way possible.
I I don't I don't think there's any way to unify.
I I'm sorry.
We just need to leave them in the dust.
unidentified
That's it.
nick sortor
There is no there is no unification, and there never will be.
We need to stop playing that card.
It don't keep stop saying both sides.
Oh, both sides are radical.
Both sides need to tone down the rhetoric.
Only one side is killing people on the other side.
steve bannon
So Nick Nick, where do people go on social media?
Your your your feed is like the uh associated press of MAGA.
Where do people go?
nick sortor
I appreciate you, Steve.
Uh, pretty much only on X, because I'll get banned everywhere else.
It's Nick Sorter, N I C K S O R T O R. Nick, thank you so much.
steve bannon
Appreciate you.
nick sortor
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
David Zier and Ben Burkwam are at the Kennedy Center.
We're gonna be uh interviewing more of the dignitaries that arrive for Charlie Kirk's prayer vigil.
We're also gonna be going into the line and talking to the people who really matter.
That would be the war room posse.
The viewers of Real America's Voice, MAGA, the base, call them what you want.
These are the uh working men and women that make this country what it is.
And uh I know everyone's been touched.
As Nick just said, churches overflowing today.
With some people have not been to church in decades, others, young people have never been inside a church.
From Korea to uh Europe and all over the United States, and like they said, I think it's 30,000 new chapters of Turning Point USA.
Charlie Kirk.
One of the most extraordinary leaders in our country.
And I would argue you have to go back to the revolutionary generation to see someone that in his twenties changed the direction of this country.
Short commercial break.
We're gonna go back to the Kennedy Center in just a moment.
jon kahn
America.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
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Um let me go to uh Burkwam.
I think Ben is doing a walk and talk.
Ben, are you um are you walking through the crowd?
Can I right there?
Let's go to Ben Burkwam live at the Kennedy Center.
ben bergquam
Yeah, I'm just gonna go down the line.
Um, and so everybody's filing in uh very kind of somber night tonight.
Um but just wanted to talk to folks and see what what Charlie meant to you, what this night means to you.
unidentified
How are you doing?
Uh Charlie's is just more of a kind.
Uh it means a lot, and I'm glad we're here.
Um nothing else to say, Matt.
ben bergquam
Yeah, God bless you.
unidentified
Okay.
ben bergquam
How are you doing?
unidentified
Hello.
ben bergquam
Where are you from?
unidentified
Uh DC, uh edge of DC, uh Northwest.
ben bergquam
What is this night mean to you?
What did Charlie mean to you?
unidentified
Charlie, number one, the humanity of him and my seeing across the globe, how the whole world knew more about him than I might have expected.
And uh special person.
You know, and I mean, I am pretty conservative, and to watch his politics, it's not mainly about politics, but he really came pretty far towards some positions that I think are more sane and needed for saving the country in the last six months.
Yeah, but special human being.
Yeah, yeah.
ben bergquam
Sad day for America.
unidentified
Thank you.
ben bergquam
You want to say why you're here, what Charlie meant to you, what turning point?
unidentified
Yes, uh, it's um the voice of change, of positive change in the world that was early extinguished, and now we have a blaze coming about.
So that's that's what he means.
It's uh I just saw today that 32,000 new chapters of turning point uh they received the application today, so that's amazing.
So it's uh it's like a Phoenix, you know, from the ashes.
Glory for God's Almighty Glory.
ben bergquam
So and and I don't know if you notice this, Steve.
Uh we do have some young folks over here.
They're going in.
Ladies, do you mind saying where you're from?
You and why and why this matters to you?
unidentified
We're from North Carolina, but I'm gonna go ahead.
I'm from Alabama.
Alabama.
ben bergquam
Yeah.
And uh actually, as we're talking here, we actually have the one and only Dave Bosse just walked up.
If uh if I can jump on, grab you real quick, sir.
david bossie
Absolutely.
How are you doing?
ben bergquam
I've got better days, but this is we all have.
david bossie
This is uh a tragedy.
Um it's an American tragedy.
Uh you know, I'm I'm I'm deeply deeply distraught.
I know Steve is.
Um known all of us here.
Some of us feel like you've known Charlie since he was a little like a kid.
Um, and uh what he was able to do, the impact that he had on our nation, um, has been just tremendous.
Um, and I'm I'm angry.
Uh I'm I'm I'm gonna be somebody who is even more uh in the fray than receding.
There's gonna be a lot of people who recede now.
This is gonna scare a lot of people.
We have to fight.
We have to fight for this country.
The battle of ideas that Charlie waged.
We owe it to him.
We owe it to our country, oil to our kids, our grandkids.
But Charlie Kirk, what he did and what he stood for.
We all have to step up.
I know Steve Bannon is, I know that for sure.
ben bergquam
Steve.
steve bannon
Uh Ben, S Dave, S. Dave, he's built one of the biggest grassroots organizations.
How tough is it for Charlie to build this massive operation he's built at turning point?
ben bergquam
So, Dave, you've built uh a massive grassroots operation, but you look at what Charlie was able to do and in 31 years, and really in 10 years.
Yeah, let's uh uh you know, young guy.
Every time I looked at him, I was like, How old is this guy?
He was younger than me.
To be able to do what he did and the amount of time he was able to do it.
Tell us what kind of person that takes.
david bossie
So let me just say, I cut my teeth in politics in the college Republicans.
All the battles of good versus evil inside the organization, conservative versus liberals inside the organization.
We thought at the time in the 80s, during the Reagan years, that that was incredibly important.
It really wasn't.
I look back now and I say, Charlie Kirk got it.
He bypassed all of that.
All of that, you know, real uh um noise, okay.
And he was he was right on the target long before, long before his years.
He was so wise beyond his years.
And so he didn't waste any time.
Uh he said, I'm not gonna participate in this fraud that is the university system.
And I'm gonna go and I'm gonna educate first of all, the depth and breadth of his knowledge was was just incredible.
I I've been around a lot of really smart people.
I know Steve has.
We've been honored and to be to work alongside a lot of really smart people.
Charlie was one of the true intellects of his time.
Uh, and he just did it on his own, on his own terms.
And that's what I just I just was so proud of watching him develop because I you you could see him argue and debate people, and he was so um knowledgeable on so many topics.
There's a lot of guys like me who do TV.
You know, you get us past 10 or 15 minutes on a topic, and you're gonna, you know, look, I mean, that's just the reality of it, right?
Because we have to be good at a lot of different things.
And guys like to be honest with you, guys like Steve Bannon, guys like Charlie Kirk, um, there's not a lot of them who have an incredible depth of knowledge uh on an incredible array of topics.
And that's what made Charlie different.
Um, but his fire, his spirit, um, the ability for him to be positive every minute of every day was a really uh joy to watch.
steve bannon
Hey, Ben, but Ben, ask Dave before he let him go.
There's so many tr of the typical voices telling us now we have to compromise, we should have to have unity, uh, that our rhetoric is dangerous.
Ask him his thoughts on that.
ben bergquam
So this is the question.
You've got this this drum beat now from some people saying it's time to unify, it's time to kumbaya, it's time to come together.
There's the basically equivocating, you know, what the left is and the right, they're they're they're analogous.
What what's your message?
david bossie
That's not my message.
Uh, I can assure you.
Umald Trump is a change agent.
He's a change agent president.
If he does not have people like us out there every single day, making sure we're using this next three and a half years to get America back on track.
We are we are a nation destined for the ash heap of history.
If Donald Trump does not utilize this next three and a half years to destroy this very swamp that he has taken over.
Um, and that's what Charlie Kirk understood.
See, that's the difference.
He was not gonna allow the left to get one minute of his time.
He was not gonna allow the left to to push him around.
He was not gonna be defeated in in any argument.
And that's what we have to do.
Charlie has uh and and you know, uh it really bothers me, and I uh it people say, Oh, Charlie passed away, he didn't pass away.
He was murdered, he was assassinated.
Um, and we have to remember that.
Um, these people, the l violent left, the violent left, that's what they are.
And they're violent Democrats too.
Uh, let's we we kind of use the wrong language when we say left because they're Democrats.
Uh and I think the American people have to understand the difference between Republicans and Democrats, that these people are uh that the the pe the people that are like the assassin, like these crazed leftists, like the per the two different individuals that tried to assassinate Donald Trump, they're vile Democrats, and that's the problem.
Um, And I think the American people have to wake up to that.
And I think this great awakening that is coming because of Charlie's assassination is going to be part of that.
The education is coming.
But we have to, we have to be uh smart, we have to be thoughtful, but we have to continue to bring pressure, and we have to win.
This is not a time for equ just moral equivalency.
This is not a time for singing Kumbaya.
This is a time for Donald Trump and the Trump administration to continue their push to make America great again.
And that's what Charlie would have wanted.
steve bannon
What's uh what is uh Ben?
What is Dave's social media where they get his m where they get all his movies and his books?
ben bergquam
All your movies and your books, where do people find you, sir?
david bossie
You know, uh Citizens United.org.
Uh you can see all of our stuff.
Uh Steve, I do want to talk to you about uh, you know, thinking of a way to to make a film utilizing this moment.
And I think you and I have to put our heads together and put it together real soon.
Uh the great Matthew Taylor, I see the great Matthew Taylor over here.
Um this is this is a um this is an incredible moment in time, and I think we have Steve, you and I have to think about how we uh really capture it and and and make it um uh important for the American people.
steve bannon
I'll talk to you uh after the vigil tonight.
Dave Bossi, thank you so much.
Ben Burkwam, you hang right there at Kennedy Center.
Maybe you grab Matthew Taylor.
We're gonna take a uh short commercial break.
We're going out with something you hear every day as we toss from the war room to uh Charlie Kirk show.
The Charlie Kirk uh bagpipes from his um ancestral Scotland, which by the way, is having uh vigilals for Charlie Kirk.
We're gonna take a short commercial break.
Uh we've got Jim Hoffa Gateway Pundit, we have Brian Kennedy, we got Jack Pasovic.
We're gonna have more interviews from the Kennedy Center.
We're probably, I don't know, 30 minutes away from uh the start of the prayer vigil.
We will be here throughout it.
Then with a summary afterwards.
Short commercial break.
We're going to leave you now with Charlie and his bagpipes.
We tossed here on Real America's Voice at high noon to the Charlie Kirk show, five days a week.
We will toss to it tomorrow.
Uh I don't think they've announced uh they're gonna have some very special folks uh sitting in with the uh with the um turning point team uh this week as we tossed them.
I think more about that later.
Want to go to so we're gonna go back to the Kennedy Center, the vigil, prayer vigil with many luminaries from the Trump administration and others around town that knew Charlie are gonna uh be there and give a few remarks.
There'll be some prayers, some music.
As Sean Foyt put this together, will probably start at the uh bottom of the hour, about 6:30.
I think they're getting people in it, but as soon as they do, we'll go live to the stage.
Want to bring in Jim Hoff.
Jim, uh, you and I have known each other since the early days of the Andrew Breitbart Revolution, the Tea Party Revolution, of which, by the way, you were one of the founders in St. Louis and the very first gathering.
I always tell people that guys like Charlie Kirk, you know, we've had two in my lifetime.
You've had uh Andrew Breitbart and you've had Charlie Kirk, and of course Donald Trump.
Uh these individuals come along once a generation, once Every hundred years, they're just they're that unique.
And I think you can see from the explosion throughout the world and just kind of self-organizing these visuals, uh remembrances of Charlie, and quite frankly, most importantly today, people returning to church shows you the power of his personality and his teaching and how humble he was.
He was a guy I knew very well and never bragged about himself, never talked about himself, just very, very, very humble.
One thing, Jim, I wanted to have you on today is that all over the media in the mainstream media uh is about, and one of the reasons that Charlie Kirk was assassinating cold blood is that Charlie Kirk was a hater and that particularly he hated gay people.
Uh, do you have any thoughts on that or any witness eyewitness accounts of this?
jim hoft
Uh thank you, Steve, for having me on.
It's such a sad time.
Um, you know, I was looking through my text messages today from Charlie, and uh something uh popped out to me.
This was uh a couple years ago.
Um he was uh uh at his um uh uh events and he would be attacked by a uh some fringe group was attacking him, and they'd be crude and uh and they'd they'd like to ask him about gays and gay rights and gay sex acts, and um and and put him on the spot.
They thought that that would be a good way to take Charlie Kirk down.
And um, you know, Charlie uh he he could have folded, he could have said, um he, you know, he could have said, uh, you know, I don't want I don't want to be around gays or anything, you know.
There's people who might do something like that.
Um Charlie held his ground and uh he took them on.
I actually sent you a um uh message then that he sent me and it was a tweet, and uh it it it it includes the video of Charlie responding to one of these guys, and I was thinking to myself, you know, um Charlie didn't have to do that.
I I don't uh I I don't talk about my sexuality.
I I run Gateway Pundit, it's one of the most powerful conservative um websites in in the country in the world.
And uh I don't talk about my uh you know who who I am as a person and and who I who I uh uh my partner or anything, but um uh Charlie Charlie knew this and he sent it to me, and I just thought, what a kind moment.
Um, and uh that's that's who Charlie was.
So when I hear someone like Stephen King, that asshole talk about how Charlie wanted to kill gays and give have them stoned.
It's it's not just that what the media is saying is not true, because it's not true.
These are lies about Charlie, just like they're lies about you and lies about me all the time.
Um it's not just that it's not true, but it's the exact opposite.
Charlie stood up for gays.
And um, I think that's very important that people understand that.
I think that's very important that the gay community understands that.
I think it's important that the the critical mass that is waking up in America understands that.
Charlie was not someone out there who is spitting on gays.
He was he was somebody or any other group.
Charlie was welcoming.
He started so many um groups like you know, the he took a uh he filled the White House with some black conservatives for one event.
He um uh he filled a uh a group for with pastors.
He but he he wasn't shy to support uh somebody uh, you know, and and um wasn't wasn't afraid to say that he supported gays.
I just um it was very moving to me.
That's who Charlie Kirk was, and I saw that today, and it got me teared up a little bit because uh he was a truly great man, and we're gonna miss him.
unidentified
So thank you for having me on today.
Um, really um uh moving event, and uh I'll miss Charlie.
steve bannon
Uh Jim, as Gateway Pundits always doing, like you said, you're one of the most influential uh conservative news sites.
You had great coverage of Turning Point Charlie over the years.
You guys have been all over this investigation, and I'm gonna tell the audience tomorrow we're really gonna get into it.
We've been working all weekend behind the scenes, and people should know there's I think a lot of things are gonna or some things are gonna happen tomorrow that have been different up until uh the last uh 24 hours.
But can we talk about this story?
And if Denver, I think we have it, if you can put up, what's what's the story that you're breaking on uh on Gateway Pundit this afternoon?
jim hoft
Well, Steve, there wasn't just one uh mass killing by a transsexual in the past uh year in in this same location.
This is the second one.
There was another uh person.
Uh she went by the name uh Mia Bailey.
She caught she shot both of her parents in in a neighboring town.
And then she when she was caught, she was caught in the same town as uh uh uh as as where this guy's uh parents live.
So um this isn't the only the only trans mass murder in the past year, uh, or trans murder in the past year in this in this location.
So what what's going on?
And we've done a lot of digging into some of these groups that these people were um uh communicating in, and we think it's a much wider um uh network than what uh we're we're hearing about already.
steve bannon
Jim, there's a lot of questions, and we're gonna get into that.
You know, you got Michael Savage, you have all these Army Special Forces.
The the videos don't kind of add up to the narrative.
I hope that that is going to be put forward tomorrow by the FBI and the Department of Justice.
And I think we get a clearer context of really having professionals instead of the governor of Utah make these presentations because right now I think there's a lot of gateway pundit readers and a lot of the war and posse that are just sitting there going, you know, this looks almost too convenient.
You got you got you got uh a guy that's converted to Antifa, he's been radicalized by Antifa, he's living with a tranny who happens to be a f furry.
You've got all this evidence that just kind of pops up, and still that like the guys in the Discord chat aren't rolled up yet, like the Boston uh marathon bomber roommates were.
So it's a lot of questions to be asked.
But you've hit on something with your coverage this afternoon as I've been over at Gateway Pundit.
And and now you see online people are finally talking about it.
This this uh transgender, almost terrorist violent.
Uh I I don't know if it's an organization or self-organizing, but the the hate and the violence coming out of this group nationwide, and like you said, what you brought up today that happened, I think in Oram didn't even make national, forget Nash.
I'm not even sure it made regional news that big, but this violence is much broader, much deeper, much more hateful than anybody's ever anticipated.
And this is including us watching the Minneapolis shooting, the Nashville shooting.
This thing is actually metastasizing at an increasing rate, sir.
jim hoft
Yeah, absolutely.
And we do find we did find out that they are, like I said, communicating on these platforms like uh Stream, which is a video platform.
And uh we uh we looked into this, I guess it's Steam, not stream, and uh something I I don't even know anything about, basically.
It's it's one of these video chat groups, and uh um and we also found out that people were talking on that same platform in that same group of transsexuals um before Charlie was shot and and directly afterwards about about the shooting before uh before this man was even captured.
Um so it's it's it's really interesting.
I I understand that Cash Patel and the FBI now is investigating this this group, this Steam group.
Um, so uh that's good.
I think it's a I think it's a great lead, and I'm sure they're gonna find out quite a bit.
steve bannon
Are you or do uh is your reporting so far leads you guys to believe that the people in this group uh might have had foreknowledge of this, that that this was something that didn't come as a surprise to them?
jim hoft
Well, we we we absolutely have found some comments that were put up um early.
This was Cassandra Fairbanks who did this excellent work.
She continues to do a deep dive into this at Gateway Pundit.
Um and uh yes, I do believe that there was foreknowledge.
And I like I said, I think they're gonna find out quite a bit.
Um uh once they start looking at this group and and and these other groups that these transsexuals are have been on, these radical transsexuals um who uh you know ended up in not now we know uh what they're talking about, you know.
They're they're they're angry at Charlie Kirk, they're angry at us, and uh and Charlie Kirk is dead.
They shot him in the head, and it's just awful.
steve bannon
Jim, uh your social media and where do people go to Gateway Pundit because your coverage is unparalleled, and uh you're You've got a big team over there on the investigation of all this.
Of course, you'll be with us for all the vigils, uh, etc.
Where do people go?
jim hoft
Uh it's Gateway the GatewayPundit.com, and you can find us on Getter and uh uh uh Twitter X as Gateway Pundit and several others, and we uh but most of our reporting this we'll be breaking it at the gateway pundit.com.
steve bannon
Jim Hoft, the founder, publisher, I think still editor in chief of the Gateway Pundit, one of the originals, along with Andrew Breitbart.
Thank you, sir.
jim hoft
God bless you, Steve.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Andrew Breitbart and Charlie Kirk.
Two of a kind.
They come along once a generation.
You can't replace them.
What you have to do is take their work and go forward.
You saw with Erica Kirk, her amazing remarks the other night live, I might add.
There are very few people on this globe that can do what she did.
It was just incredible.
Charlie's partner should be taking Turning Point forward.
Uh, and I think you could say it's in very good and safe hands.
We're gonna take a short break.
We return to the Kennedy Center for the Prayer Vigil in the nation's capital for Charlie Kirk.
jon kahn
I got American faith in America's heart.
steve bannon
Music Okay, welcome back to our coverage of the prayer vigil for Charlie Kirk and our nation's capital in the Kennedy Center.
Um I think Nick Sorter said it best.
Um, you know, this is kind of the temple of secular humanism.
It is pretty shocking to know that we're gonna have a prayer vigil today in a um with uh some of the uh top evangelical preachers.
It's gonna be uh quite extraordinary.
Sean Foyt, who we had on first, a friend of the show.
We've had him many times, followed him around the country, is going to uh kick things off.
I think he'll be the prayer leader.
Uh let's go to David Zier.
David Zier is actually inside the theater at the uh Kennedy Center uh momentarily at the bottom of the hour, as soon as we have Real America's Voice.
We have a couple of cameras there.
As soon as uh they begin the ceremony, begin the event.
We will go live to the stage.
We will be here.
If I need to, I'll make some commentary during the uh event.
It should take about an hour, maybe 90 minutes.
We're gonna be here afterwards to wrap up with maybe certain dignitaries that are there that we can get and get some feedback and also from the war impossible and the the Rev audience that is there right now.
David Zier, put us in the room, sir.
david zere
The line was wrapped around the building earlier.
They're filing into the concert hall here at the Kennedy Center, and this room holds about 2500 plus, um, I believe, and uh over 3,000 people have registered, so it's gonna be uh, you know, a full house here and waiting for the program to start at about 6:30.
Uh it's about a two-hour program, and Sean Foyt will be uh one of the opening people and the closing uh for the evening here.
Um and um as you were saying, there's uh a long list of people here and notables.
Um, I don't know if you went over earlier, you know, like Tulsi Gabbard and RFK, Andy Biggs, and Anna Paulina, Carrie Lake, uh, Jake Hoffman, Eli Crane, uh a lot of people will be here.
Uh, and um this will be a uh I bet there won't be a dry eye in the house for Charlie Kirk.
steve bannon
Uh David, I I want to bring this up.
Was there any special security precautions coming into this?
I mean, it seats 3,000 people.
You are in the nation's capital.
They're uh, you know, particularly the local media there, the Washington Post.
There's there's been a uh a lot of hate and discontent.
I think the New York Times today, there's up online some true hater they had right write an op-ed.
Uh is your sense any any uh any uh any raised level of security?
david zere
Yes, absolutely, and they're very organized here, and the staff is, you know, watching everyone closely where you're not supposed to go.
I did hear reports earlier, Secret Service was on site, and that security has been beefed up for this event.
I think everybody's always on edge, you know, this weekend here uh in DC and other but the staff seems to have their act together here.
And uh again, um, you know, tight security went through the metal detectors um and uh got wanted, had to put our electronics aside, uh, went through our bags.
Um definitely um definitely tight security, yes.
steve bannon
David, throughout the country, these have been self-organizing over the last couple of days or throughout the world, they've really been amazing.
Some have been very joyous, some have been somber.
What is the uh what is the feeling there in the uh in the concert hall at the Kennedy Center, sir?
david zere
I believe that everybody's still in shock.
Uh people are going about their business here to pay respects for Charlie Kirk.
Uh, I think a lot of people are still processing uh this and how to handle it.
And there are organic groups.
Uh a lot of these people here, I'm sure are involved not only in their local community, but on the national stage in the response for this.
And uh, you know, uh it's like very organic, like MAGA was organic.
And um, you know, uh the these people um, you know, they're tired of being told they're the bad people for being the good people, Steve.
And uh that's the message that Charlie brought to the students, right?
When you couldn't go on campus 10 years ago with a table without a table getting ripped up or you know, collapsed on you.
Um I I think these people are the good people of America, and um they want to make sure that this doesn't happen again.
steve bannon
David, hang on, I'm gonna go to uh Brian Kennedy.
Brian, you you ran Claremont.
The Claremont Institute is kind of the um, you know, the intellectual center.
It's become one of the intellectual center of MAGA, but for years been intellectual center of the of the uh of the um conservative movement.
I don't remember if Charlie was a Lincoln scholar or not.
I know that he learned a lot from Andrew Breitburn from others that were uh what what is your what is your take on the the life and work of Charlie Kirk?
brian t kennedy
Well, look, Steve, um, first of all, thank you for doing this today.
I I think Charlie Kirk was a great man.
He uh he was a Lincoln fellow of the Claremont Institute back in 2021.
Uh Andrew Breitbart was a Lincoln fellow, I would say, also back uh uh a decade before.
Um both of them were warriors who believed in the country, what was good about the country.
And uh in the case of um Charlie, Charlie's project was to remoralize this nation.
He saw that it had been demoralized and he wanted to remoralize it.
And that's a project that was near and dear to the heart of President Trump and the MAGA movement.
The goal of MAGA is to re-moralize the country, to teach Americans that they have a good country that's worth defending.
Now, I would say maybe in disagreement with some of the earlier folks who said Charlie was not a threat.
Charlie was a threat.
He represented a recovery in this country of limited constitutional government, of a decency, a morality, a pro-family agenda that the American left finds abhorrent.
And President Trump was, I think, spot on on Fox News when he said that we're in a war and that there are terrorist elements in this country that would like to destroy this country.
Well, I would say to you, Steve, that you will know that we are in a war if there are a hundred lawyers today, right now at the DOJ or the FBI who are working around the clock to figure out how to dismantle the criminal parts of the American left,
whether it's George and Alexander Soros or Arabella advisors and the way they put dark money into the system or their funding of Antifa and a variety of other left-wing causes.
You'll know you're in a war if they're finding out right now what is really going on and how you dismantle that.
This cannot be business as usual.
They have killed a leader of MAGA In a most brutal way.
And until you signal to our side that you're going to take this seriously, sure, you can find the killer and in that network, and that will yield you something.
I think at the end of the day, there has to be justice for Charlie, and that will be it.
But if you really want to help save this country, you'll dismantle those networks that are operational today.
There is a communist party in this country.
There is Antifa.
There is the Muslim Brotherhood.
There are the democratic socialists of America.
These people have networks, they have funding, they have operatives operating at a variety of levels that are piece by piece taking this country apart still today.
The Trump administration, for all the good things it's done, is not doing this with the speed and diligence that's going to be required to actually make that a reality.
I think Charlie was pointing to this.
He understood this.
And if we're going to honor his memory at all, we have to do the necessary steps to make sure that the American left is defunded.
We're not going to silence anyone, but we're going to make sure that they're not breaking the law and that these networks are not going to, on a regular basis, be able to inspire these demons on the left that are going to create this kind of violence.
But that on a broader level are operating within our government today to make sure that our freedoms are being abridged and that they're going to look to the future to make sure that they can win elections in 2026 and 2028.
That was what made Charlie dangerous.
Charlie understood all those things.
steve bannon
What, and Brian, I asked you, we're going to go a moment ago, we're going to take a short commercial break in a moment and then come back and go right to the main stage.
I think they'll be ready to kick things off for the prayer vigil.
Tomorrow morning, what would you like What are the top two or three things you would like President Trump and the administration to do to start to dismantle this, just to get serious about not just tracking down the assassins, but really the infrastructure underneath it, the financing underneath it, because you can see from Luigi Manjoni to what's happening in New York with the working people's party and the DSA.
hey, there's a rise of dangerous radicalism in this country.
What would you propose is done, sir?
unidentified
Thank you.
brian t kennedy
Well, between the Treasury Department and the FBI and the DOJ, there are how many billions of dollars being put into uh this political network that exists on the left.
They need to track that down today.
They need to bring in both Soros's for questioning today or tomorrow morning.
But there better be lawyers today working on this to make sure that that's a reality.
And look, you can't you can't spend two or three billion dollars a year on these kind of operations without somebody know what's going on.
We've got to fix the FBI.
We've got to fix the DOJ.
We've got to take these things seriously.
Ask Scott Bessant and his team to make sure that that money is not flowing to the wrong sources.
Find out where the money is flowing.
Stop its flow today.
And uh the president has to get his team in order right away.
steve bannon
Brian Kennedy, you're gonna hang with me, but what is your social media?
I want to make sure everybody gets to your content.
We're the smartest guys in the MAGA movement.
Uh, where do people go?
brian t kennedy
Uh on X, it's Brian T. Kennedy 1, and on Getter, it's Brian T. Kennedy.
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Brian, hang around.
Okay, we're gonna take a short commercial break.
We're gonna go out with Nicole N'Grady's modern day holy war, kind of a prescient song, was it not?
We're gonna return and go to the main stage at the Kennedy concert hall, where the prayer vigil for Charlie Kirk and our nation's capital will commence back in.
unidentified
No time to be blind Open your mind to see We're in an modern day
Holy 1090.
steve bannon
It's Sunday, 14th September in the year of the Lord 2025.
No one obviously thought last uh was it Thursday morning.
Uh and particularly when we tossed to the we tossed to the Charlie Kirk show at noon from the worm that we've done for years.
That on Sunday uh evening, uh, we would be in a prayer vigil in the temple of secular humanism, the Kennedy Center in Washington, DC, with an overflowing massive crowd uh coming to a vigil for Charlie Kirk because of his assassination.
Let's go to our own Ben Burkwam, who's outside of the Kennedy Center as the uh as MAGA fills in.
Uh, Ben, I think we're gonna start a little late because it's gonna take a while to get these folks in there, is it not, sir?
ben bergquam
Yeah, Steve, just to show you.
So this was supposed to start right now, but the line just to get in here, it goes through these doors back here.
General Mission loops around the building inside, comes out here, goes down to the end of the Kennedy building, and then it comes all the way back and goes out the other side of the Kennedy building.
So we're talking, I mean, if they're wanting to start this thing with everyone inside, we're talking probably at least 20 minutes, half an hour.
Uh, and more people keep coming.
We've got busloads of people that have uh come in just for this event.
They've traveled in just for this event, so yes, it's uh it's incredible.
steve bannon
So here's here's what's really incredible, Ben.
You talk about the self-organizing all over the world from Korea, young kids in the streets of Korea chanting Charlie's name to Long Island to Hyde Park in uh in the United Kingdom.
This just came about what in the last 24 hours, and you have buses of people coming in, they've charted buses, and you have this massive crowd on a on a Sunday afternoon of which NFL football and so many other things people have to do.
Uh so look, can you go online?
Let's go, let's go talk to some of the some of the war room posse that's out there.
ben bergquam
Yeah, I will.
Before we we do, real quick though, I just want to touch on something you asked Dave and you asked Nick.
You can't the the this idea of kumbayan with these guys, you can't kumbaya with evil.
You can't compromise with evil.
That is what has gotten us to this point.
It's why the Republican Party has fallen, and it's why MAGA ascended.
It's because we compromised with evil too long, and now Charlie Kirk is dead because of it.
Unless you want to die.
That's the ultimate.
That's that that's what compromise with evil is.
That's what compromise with the left is.
It's choosing suicide.
We cannot do that.
But we have to do it in a righteous way.
But let's go down here and just talk to some of the folks.
steve bannon
Ben, hang on one second.
Ben Ben, hang on one second.
I want to follow up on that.
You went and covered, you know, you were there with Charlie on the on the recount in Arizona.
You did all these tur turning point events.
Mo went to all these turning points events.
We went to uh many of them.
We we did live, you know, as you remember, you were there, we did live at all the big turning point events.
Charlie Kirk, here's what I tell people.
Charlie Kirk was the most humble, decent, good man, one of the best I've ever met.
If they're going to assassinate and and and gun down Charlie Kirk at 31 years old, a father, uh loving uh husband with two small children, one what, three years old, the other one year old.
Uh they'll kill they'll murder anybody.
They they pr they targeted the best that we have to offer, the best this country has to offer.
And that's what I say.
There's no compromise.
You can't compromise with that.
And people, these politicians on TV that say, oh no, we need we need unity.
There's nothing to unify with.
There is nothing to unify.
Unless you want to unify with evil, unless you want to unify with demons and satanic powers, then tell me what you're unifying with.
This is not about unity, this is about victory.
Ben Burkwam.
ben bergquam
Yeah, no, it's you know, it's cliche now, but it's the Wilt Chamberlain, you know, it's uh peace in our time.
Uh that's what they're asking us to do.
They're asking us to turn our backs and get shot in the back or stabbed in the back.
Uh and we won't do it.
We've we've done it for too long.
We've seen it too many times.
I've been doing this, you've been doing this, I've been attacked.
I've got the stitches and the spit in my mouth to prove it.
Uh, I've been attacked in a hundred different ways by these people and there is no compromise.
In fact there's not even any common ground.
I started my my action actually on college campuses as well and I would go out and just try to find common ground.
And for trying to do that I was attacked.
I had my my uh my hats my MAGA hat stolen I got beat over the head with sticks.
You know you look at that and I had to make the choice early on in my career was this worth it is it worth putting my life on the line to to do this fight and ultimately I came down to I have to I'm a husband and a father I'm the protector of my wife and my children.
I have to do this it's what God has called me to do to be that protector in my family and the protector for this nation.
If we don't do it if the men of this nation don't rise up and stand up and say no more not on our watch we're not having it yeah we we're we're the gu we we follow the God of the New Testament and the old testament and there's a time for righteousness there's a time for mercy but there's also a time for wrath we follow God's word in that but ultimately it's the men's job the protectors of this nation to stand up and fight this fight.
Ben let's get some let's get to some of the posse and some of the mega uh movement folks that are in line we're gonna go down the line now you don't have to say it I know it's a tough day but uh we're trying to find out what Charlie meant to you and why what this night means to you moms for Liberty.
unidentified
Um, I'm Moms for Liberty Cumberland County, uh, chapter chair and mom, Charlie Kirk was the leader of a movement that started almost everything for all of us, other movements that we joined up together and he meant, he meant everything to us.
And I'm, I can't want to say Bible verse.
That's what that verse it's Romans 8, 28 for all things work together for good to them that love the Lord for those who are called according to his purpose.
And, and he was called for this purpose.
And I'm going to rejoice that he's he is in heaven with his heavenly father and um I'm gonna rejoice because I believe our country's at a turning point and I I think people are going to see see Jesus more than ever and be unafraid to speak because of him.
ben bergquam
God bless you.
unidentified
God bless you.
Charlie Kirk reminded me a lot of my son.
He was the same age as my son.
My son had passed away when he was 22.
But the boldness that Charlie Kirk had to preach the gospel, everything he talked about, he segued into the gospel.
And that, to me, was like so powerful.
And it just shows that we need to be bold as Christians.
We need to speak out.
We need to use our voice to reach people for Jesus Christ.
And that, to me, makes him the martyr that he was.
His life seemed to exemplify everything that he preached.
And I just, it is a sad loss.
But what it has stirred up, what the movement that this has created, I just pray that those that have listened to him will take heed to his most earnest plea to them.
And that is seek Christ.
Seek Jesus Christ.
Find out who he is.
If this many people are talking about him, you ought to know who he is.
Find out who he is.
He's everything he's ever promised to be.
And Jesus Christ is alive.
If Jesus is alive, then Charlie Kirk is alive.
And Jesus Christ is alive.
So Charlie Kirk is alive.
And I will see him again.
And I thank God for that, for that assurance.
My answer is very quick.
I am not a perfect messenger.
of us aren't we're all sinners but Charlie Kirk has reminded me how important it is to share the gospel and to love like Jesus and to just tell people about Jesus and I'm gonna make sure my son knows that and make sure I grow him and let him become that kind of man that he shares the gospel with others as well because everything else is not a kingdom issue but that is and we're grateful for to Charlie um for for showing us how to do that with grace.
Thank you for doing this blessing what's your son's name this is Grant.
ben bergquam
Grant Lord we just play a special blessing on Grant on all the young people this nation.
Lord.
Bless and keep them.
Make your face to shine upon them.
Be gracious unto them and raise Grant and this next generation up into the warriors that you'd have them to be.
In Jesus' name, Amen.
unidentified
Thank you, Lord.
Thank you.
Amen.
Thank you.
ben bergquam
You guys want to jump in?
What Charlie meant to you?
Why you're here today?
No pressure, but you're welcome.
jessica in alabama
Sure, thanks.
ben bergquam
No pressure.
We are live.
jessica in alabama
No, no, no, you're good.
I mean, Charlie means my generation.
I'm 32, so we I've followed him since we both since he started, and we were both growing up through college, which is a really hard time for a lot of young people.
And he, to me, he means that we can share who we are and what we believe.
And unfortunately, he was not able to share that in a way that everyone accepted, but he shared it with an astounding amount of people, and his legacy is going to live on forever.
ben bergquam
What's your name?
Where are you from?
jessica in alabama
My name's Jessica and I'm from Alabama.
ben bergquam
Did you come just for this?
jessica in alabama
No, I'm no, I was already here, but glad to be able to attend this event.
ben bergquam
God bless you.
Steve, just look at this line.
It's everybody.
You got young people, you got their families, you got parents, you got kids, you got a grandparents, you got everybody.
The amount of people that that Charlie Kirk touched, uh, the ripples we will never see.
We'll never know the end until we get to heaven.
But it's incredible.
steve bannon
Ben, Ben, hold right there.
Uh that commentary is better than anything we've had, so you just stick right there.
Hang on, we're gonna take a short commercial break.
We're gonna return a moment.
We're gonna go to the Kennedy Center.
We're gonna start a little late, as you can tell, because of the overwhelming uh number of people.
I don't know how they're gonna get into the concert hall.
I think they'll have an overflow room because there are thousands and thousands and thousands.
They had 3,000 in advance, just like many more have shown up.
Uh we're gonna show everything, uh, of course, take a short commercial break.
Uh Ben's gonna return.
We're gonna return to outside.
The best commentary so far has been by guess what?
MAGA.
Just people right there self-organizing.
Short commercial break.
We're gonna return to the Kennedy Center for the prayer vigil for Charlie Kirk.
Looks like we're gonna start a little late, but that's okay.
This is the kind of night that you hope never ends.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
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