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Episode 4728: Trump's Maximalist Strategy; Pause To Ukraine Peace Efforts
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Before you go, we're about to talk about Trump's retribution campaign we're seeing at the FBI and the Justice Department.
You're obviously on his enemy's list, at least Kash Patel's enemy's list.
Are you worried that they're going to come after you in some way?
I mean, he's hinted at it before.
Well, I think he's already come after me and several others in withdrawing the protection that we had for the Iranians for the attack on Qasem Soleimani.
So I think, and I said in the new forward to the paperback edition of my book, I think it is a retribution, President.
Aid for TV attempt at an authoritarian takeover just so happens to be consuming the ne the news cycle after news cycle.
But here's the thing.
It is also very real and exactly what it looks like.
It's not just a show or a distraction.
It's the real thing.
They are sending troops into the streets.
They are occupying the capital.
They have a secret police force that is scooping up people, that is demanding people's ID.
They have an enemy's list.
They have the state security apparatus targeting political opponents.
In fact, we're being told the FBI search on John Bolton's home and office was part of a, quote, national security investigation in search of classified records, a source familiar with the matter confirmed to NBC News.
Trump administration, Bolton has come out as a vocal critic of the president.
Chris, if you're the Attorney General of New York or the junior senator from the state of California, two other high profile perceived political enemies of the President of the United States, it makes pretty clear, doesn't it, what the president thinks about his political enemies and what might happen to them next?
Yes, I think that should be a real concern for them and for all Americans.
I don't think there's a limit necessarily to what this administration is planning to do against the enemies list.
Just a couple of weeks ago, there was an AI generated video of President Obama being arrested in the Oval Office and then this opening of this broad investigation by the ODNI.
So I think anything they consider anything fair game here.
And we should be concerned about the utilization of the FBI as a tool in this political witch hunt.
So today could have been just the first shot in this campaign.
So we should see how this unfolds.
Listen, my emotions have vacillated all day.
First of all, you know, I have complete confidence in the integrity and professionalism of the FBI.
So if the investigators found new information, part of an investigation into Ambassador Bolton that indicated that he was involved in a crime and then sought a search warrant, that would be one thing, but the timing was very suspicious.
Now it looks like that information was provided to them by the Director of the CIA, a fierce loyalist to the President, and it really, you know, gives me pause.
I don't recall ever seeing him in his house, for instance.
I actually never saw the President in any type of massage setting.
I never witnessed the president in any inappropriate setting in any way.
The president was never inappropriate with anybody.
In the time that I was with him, he was a gentleman in all respects.
So are you saying there's a real possibility then that you do nothing if Putin doesn't come to the table for a ceasefire?
I'll see whose fault it is.
If there are reasons why, I'll understand that.
I know exactly what I'm doing.
We're going to see whether or not they have a meeting.
That will be interesting to see.
And if they don't, why didn't they have a meeting?
Because I told them to have a meeting.
But I'll know in two weeks what I'm going to do.
I'm pretty good at this.
So bottom line, bottom line, there's no meeting planned.
President Putin said clearly that he is ready to meet provided this meeting is really going to have an agenda, presidential agenda.
So that's a big if.
There's no meeting planned, Mr Foreign Minister.
That's a big if.
You're saying there's no meeting planned right now.
Christian, Christian, I am awfully sorry.
You're not listening.
There's no meeting planned.
And I'm not challenging this.
But you, you cannot, I think, understand what I'm saying.
Putin is ready to meet with Zelensky when the agenda would be ready for a summit.
And this agenda is not ready at all.
Do you have any knowledge about that?
I think not.
Certainly my father had a background in intelligence because he was I believe he did in the Second World War, he was an intelligence, a British intelligence officer.
I think that my sort of belief is that once you've been an intelligence officer, you're kind of always, it doesn't mean that you're formally employed.
So I don't think my dad in any formal sense was employed by any agency, but when you are very significant.
Dan Bongino, what you have in the background, as you, as you laid out, is a series of moves that we have seen over the past seven months and an extraordinary, unprecedented use of presidential power to achieve the political goals and to exacta retribution.
When you see all that conduct and you see Bolton's home being raided, you're then forced to say, okay, how are we supposed to look at this?
Should we accept this on face value?
Should we accept that this was done for the right reasons?
And we don't know why it was done yet.
We will learn that, you know, in the coming days and if there are court papers in this and such and if there's a prosecution, we will learn what is actually here.
But for the moment, you have to kind of look at it and say, okay, maybe there is something serious here, but there's also a retribution campaign going on.
And you have to say, well, well, what's really happening here?
And it gets back to that simple, simple principle that if you as a very powerful politician, the President of the United States, talk about ongoing investigations and what you want done to your enemies, when stuff is done to them, people tend to think you are behind it.
As soon as something happens, in any incident I've been on the news about, it's like the cabinet secretaries are racing to get it on X to show what, you know, the favoritism.
Like, I got there first.
I talked about it.
So I'd say it was singular and this one is troubling, but that's just the norm now between Homeland Defense and FBI.
That never happened before.
I mean, Jim Comey got a ton of it for what he started to do when he talked about something, but he was backed into a corner.
But now it's just the norm.
As soon as it happens, and then the leak to the post today.
So it definitely is, it's going to continue.
It's unbelievable.
Early this morning, the Texas Senate approved new congressional maps.
They're designed to give Republicans up to five more seats in next year's midterms.
And now that the vote has cleared the final legislative hurdle, that's at Governor Greg Abbott's desk.
And Democrats are vowing to fight back in court.
In California, Governor Gavin Newsom and state Democrats are there pushing their own maps to offset GOP games.
The voters will have the next say here in November when they'll decide whether to override the state's independent commission and adopt the new lines.
I mean, I was told this morning by a senior FBI official that this was definitely not just about the book, that it was about a kind of drip, drip, drip of leaks by Bolton, including after 2020.
There was also a report by Jack Pesobiak this morning who said that the CIA director John Radcliffe had actually given FBI director Cash Patel information that might have pertained to this raid.
I mean, I think what's important, I went back and relied on John Bolton's book today.
And I mean, you have to put this in some context, which is that we're in the middle of an administration that is genuinely appearing to prosecute RussiaGate, the long or RussiaGate hoax, I should say, the long ongoing conspiracy to remove Trump from office.
Bolton was directly involved in the 2019 impeachment.
And afterwards, he said that he thought that the impeachment inquiry, the impeachment process by the Democrats was not broad enough that it needed to include Trump's decisions that he said were made for political purposes, which is so far out of bounds of the Constitution.
So you've got someone here that was actively involved in trying to remove Trump from power and scheming in ways to remove Trump from power in 2019 and in 2020.
Do you think this is a prelude to Brennan, Clapper, Comey, a lot of the other rap scallions who conspired to sabotage a presidency?
I mean, look, I've been told, and I'm sure you've heard this too, is that the Trump administration is serious, the Department of Justice is serious, the FBI is serious about prosecuting the Russia collusion hoax.
That is what it looks like, and when you kind of look at the whole thing, I mean, to some extent they're making it up as they go along, but I mean, we had emails, we had intelligence released a couple of weeks ago that suggested that Adam Schiff, that a conversation with Adam Schiff where he said that they were looking for, you know, maybe not criminal prosecution, but possibly impeachment.
That was way back in 2017, get to 2019, they get that first impeachment.
And you see Bolton again saying he's he's being very creative in his book describing all the ways in which he thought that Trump should have been charged with impeachment or the impeachment process should have gone and criticizing the Democrats for making their scope too narrow.
He wanted it to just be around a whole set of decisions that John Bolton happened to disagree with and make that the basis of impeaching the president.
This is the primal stream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
You're going to not get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA media.
I wish, in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
War room.
Here's your host, August 23, Year of Our Lord 2025.
Welcome to the War Room.
We've got a lot to talk about today on the maximalist strategy of maximizing everything President Trump's doing right now in the MAGA movement to sort this mess out in the country.
Everything from taking on the cartels to shutting down these sanctuary democratic cities and cleaning them up.
to making sure that we start on the process now of the 100 seats President Trump feels is right there for the MAGA movement if we get our act together.
together including places like Texas big win last night but not a maximalist win big win Senate voted for the five seats hopefully Governor Abbott signs that thing quickly I would like to see him sign it over the weekend but maybe they wait till Monday to have some sort of little ceremony but we got clean we got some cleanups to do John Bolton, Jack Besobic, you have been all over this situation.
And now the mainstream media, as much as it hurts them, are calling out your reporting and analysis.
We've got a couple of minutes on this side.
I'll hold you through the break.
John Bolton, the book.
and the classified documents is just maybe one small aspect of this, sir.
Your thoughts?
Well, Steve, thank you so much.
And as Fred, I broke that story here on the war room yesterday.
We got the piece up at humanevents dot com.
I was able to put that into greater detail regarding some of the intelligence that was shared by John Ratcliffe to FBI Director Patel.
Also, receiving as we're continuing to dig into this case and my reporting, the next place we're going is there's that tweet from Dan Bonjino saying that public corruption will not be tolerated.
Now, what's interesting about that tweet is, of course, he's not referring to.
classified material or mishandling classified material.
He's referring to actions that were taken beyond the scope of John Bolton's official duties, possibly for monetary gain.
This, of course, being the public corruption portfolio of the FBI, and a lot of questions about lobbyists that John Bolton may have been working with while he was in office in the President's White House.
Well, it's about we'll get into it as he comes through the break.
It's about selling of access.
And I think this makes sense when you connect the dot of what Ratcliffe said about the CIA is providing intelligence.
A lot of people think that's backup to things that were in the book.
It may be that.
It may also be intercepts, et cetera, about people that Bolton was working with and how he was monetizing access.
Blockbuster news here in the war room this morning as we connect some dots.
The great Jack Bisobic is with us.
Ben Hornwell, big developments in Ukraine.
Wait for it.
What do we tell you?
President Trump, the two-week break Washington Post now reporting.
as Jack Bisobic highlights to me that Zelensky's on the clock.
Yes, you know, Putin, the Trump, maybe terrorists, maybe this, maybe tariffs against the CCP, people financing.
But Zelensky better show up with some partners because President Trump ain't buying it that the guys that came over and hung out, the chaperones, when they got back home.
President Trump's just got three questions.
How much cash, how many arms and weapons and how many troops, particularly troops?
The colonel in charge of the union for the German troops, yes, the German army has a union, brutally goes out and gives an interview and says, says the all the European nations are military dwarves they don't have any finances they don't have any resources they don't have any manpower and that it is a a bluff and praisey strategy that will not work in the Ukraine.
Short commercial break.
Jack Vasovic, Ben Harnwell.
Also going to go back to Jenny Beth Martin later in the Tea Party Patriots on a Saturday in the War Rooms.
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Did you see, are you seeing a lot of reaction from Manga World?
Because we're looking and we have, you know, some stuff from Laura Loomer, but it's not much.
We're not seeing a whole lot.
I have a list that I keep, I'm not going to put the name of it in it, it's private.
I can do that on live TV.
I'm not seeing the usual suspects come in real hot and heavy here just yet, other than Jack Pasobic, who sort of took the role as kind of the heir to being the next for Rush Limbaugh.
He's been blasting out the thing about Maxwell saying that Epstein, she believes, didn't kill himself.
Wow.
The heir to Rush Limbaugh, Jack, that's a pretty big mantle.
I think that's Jake LaHut.
That's Jake LaHut.
He's a pretty sophisticated reporter.
What say you, sir?
Before we get back into this, what say you, sir?
Are you taking the mantle of Rush Limbaugh?
Steve, there's only one Rush Limbaugh, the harmless little fuzzball and all around good guy, the Maha Rushy, the most dangerous man in America.
However, I will say that for many years, I was a student of the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies and the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
So great.
Let's go back to Bolton.
You broke some big news.
Let's explain to the audience what's going on.
When Bongino sends this thing out, says public corruption, your antenna went up.
This is deeper just in the book.
in the classified, in the yellow legal pads and all that.
That may be part of it.
I was pretty surprised how many boxes they took out of his house yesterday.
What are we talking about here?
Because it sounds like when you say public corruption, it sounds like Bolton in some way was potentially monetizing access?
Is that what we're talking about?
Well, see, I mean, that's the definition of public corruption, monetizing your office.
And in this case, monetizing access to the president or in essentially monetizing policy or leverage.
And if you go all the way back to 2018, when they talked about Bolton's time at the NSC, there is in fact an article from Politico that it pinged my memory talking all about a longtime colleague and lobbyist of John Bolton named Matthew Friedman,
a guy that he had brought in to be a consult a consultant for staffing and a consultant on the outside Even while Bolton was working on the inside and these individuals.
So he had Friedman on the outside, Matthew Friedman, and then this other guy, Charles Copperman.
And it says in the political article right here, another Bolton friend has joined him at the NSC to help weigh job applications.
And this, of course, is in the wake of HR McMaster being ousted following policy clashes with President Trump and others.
And, of course, the issue that they were talking about was this individual's business ties, potentially to foreign contacts and potentially to other influences that were coming in as Bolton was the current national security advisor for President Trump there in the White House.
Friedman was on the transition team initially for the first couple of weeks and then was fired for some screw ups.
I think it was told some screw ups.
But what's disturbing and Copperman, I think, tried to cut.
Yeah, I think Copperman came in for I think Copperman one time was either the deputy or the assistant to the deputy or chief of staff, right?
He had a very prominent role.
Friedman is also alleged very tight with Mossad.
Do you think the law of unintended consequences is going to play in here that you're going to see a lot of Bolton's direct contacts and with Ukraine intelligence and with Mossad?
Jack Pesovic.
Well, Steve, this is going to call it all into question.
Whatever foreign contacts we're applying for access to the White House, potentially domestic contacts as well.
It's very simple.
When we give our elected officials and our public officials this power and this access and this influence, one of the great dangers, whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, is that you will instead of.
working for the good and the betterment of the American people, you'll be working for your own personal gain and your own personal interests.
And of course, if they can find a direct link between any of this lobbying that was going on, which again was reported at the Times, this is politico that I'm relying on here and some other stuff that people have been pointing me to that article again from last night that they're saying that I think this is probably what the big thing is on Bolton when it comes to public corruption.
Well, and just to explain to the audience, I think Friedman was his business partner.
that ran a consulting business or advisory business.
A lot of people have.
And this is one of the reasons President Trump takes away their security clearance because the way they monetize things is use that security clearance going forward.
It looks like potentially – and we don't know this for a fact, but you can kind of see the convergence here if you're sophisticated and can read between the lines that Bolton – and look, National Security Advisor –
The political article leaves open the fact that actually Friedman is monetizing and maybe even Copperman are monetizing access to Bolton to actually people to take meetings and maybe sign advisory agreements with them either post or pre.
Is that what is that what this looks like it's trending towards?
That's certainly what the implication is that they're on the table for for this public corruption, which again, Dan Bongino is the one who posted that originally.
And so when we look at this, a lot of people in the audience the audience who will always ask me why is the United States of America so focused on this foreign country or that foreign country?
Why are we pushing for this when, you know, it seems out of nowhere?
And unfortunately, the dirty little secret is that Washington, DC, just like every other industry, runs on money, and there are times where John Bolton potentially, given his access to the president, he's got the president here, he's in there, and as he said himself, in the room where it happened, the question is, was there some deal set up where this guy was taking money from outside?
This is similar to what we saw Hillary Clinton doing when she was Secretary of State with the Clinton Foundation, not quite on that scale, but a very similar formula to what you would have seen there.
That's what the political article lays out.
Yeah, the Mike Davis, the great the viceroy who's taking a couple days off, I think, has a tweet up that basically and Jesse Waters talked about it last night right before they talked about your site about your input.
mike had something that a lot of the people that just think it happens to deal with the classified information in the book the room where it happened are going to be embarrassed because it's going to be much broader than that.
And I think people should understand that if any of this is backed up by evidence, and I think they would have the evidence before they went and got the or at least had an indication of where the evidence was since Ratcliffe's part of this also is John Bolton could be looking for a couple of decades of hard time essentially could die in prison I mean this is these these are pretty these are very very very serious charges and not just about a book that he was doing Jack along
those lines In the Maxwell interview, she admitted that she and Epstein were at the beginning of helping the Clinton stand up the Clinton Foundation.
Just mention that.
She also said that she doesn't think Epstein committed suic for the first time, I think, in any public record that her father was associated with, was an intelligence asset of the Mossad.
And also she exonerated President Trump, said he barely knew the, you know, he knew the guy, but it was all public hanging out in public places and never saw anything inappropriate.
Your assessment of Todd Blanche's questioning of Maxwell and some of these nuggets that came out of there.
Well, Steve, I think it was interesting.
This is something that I have a little bit of background with having been served by a year at Guantanamo Bay conducting these types of interviews, conducting these types of debriefs as an analyst and being able to look in through all this type of information.
But what I would say here is coming in in the capacity that he did is the same thing I would say to anyone when I was down there working in the interrogation cell at Guantanamo, it's good first meeting.
Because there seems to be a lot more.
There are also times where there is information that's contradictory.
And there's also information where you have to go.
You can't take a detained, or in this case a prisoner's word at its face value.
You have to go back and do the process of source validation.
And people say, how do you validate a source?
How do you know they're telling you the truth?
Source validation is an ongoing process.
So any good investigator is going to take the word of their source, but then go match that with what other data do you have out there?
Do you have other informants?
Do you have other sources of information?
Do you have other data points using SIGINS or communications intelligence, whatever else, documentary intelligence, DOCX, like we've seen, of course, these questions about the files, other some of the girls that they've come out and said various things that contradict what Ghislaine Maxwell said here.
So it really is a good I think it's a great start.
I think it's a great start, the fact that it happened.
I think the Todd Blanche did a fantastic job and we'll see.
We'll see.
I think there's a lot of nuggets in there, but this is nowhere.
This is just scraping the tip of the iceberg.
I want to hold I know you got stuff for the family.
I just want to hold you.
I get to Ukraine and Gaza for a second, but I got 60 seconds here.
Pam Bondi did say, I think on February 21, either February or March, I think it was February 21, that on her desk was the clients list that they were going through.
You guys went to the White House and got a document that you guys, you and DC Journey, et cetera, were not happy with.
Maxwell just said, there is no client list.
How do you square that?
Well, I would say the question is, you know, what is a list?
How do you define list?
So is a list something that they write down or is a list something that an investigator puts together when you're tracking all of the money and you're tracking all of the people who So I think that's really something that that people are playing semantic games with.
Let's take a short break.
Jack was so mean.
I don't know.
When the AG says it's on my desk, I got a list, you imagine it's like a grocery list, right?
It's a list.
Anyway, short break, Post on the other side, Harnwell, Jenny Beth Martin, all of it this morning in the war room.
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Jack Bisobic, I know we're eating in, the worm is eating in to Tanya Tay and the boys' time, so I'm going to be quick about this.
First off, I want to just go back to the Maxwell.
You say it's the first.
It's the tip of the iceberg.
There's much more to come.
It has to be much more to come.
She finally identified, I think the first time ever, admitted her father was an intelligence asset.
He's known as the Mossad super spy, right?
A guy like him and Source, they come out of, you know, they come post-war, they come out of, you know, Eastern Europe really as, I think, an informant to British intelligence.
Source was informant to the Nazis.
And then next thing you know, they got some money, they're buying things, and they're bigger than life.
Your observations on that, because that's going to, besides their thing about the Clinton, their association with Clinton, the Clinton Foundation, also she doesn't think he was committed suicide.
That means if he was murdered, he was murdered for a reason.
What about this?
What about her association?
And people will say, certain people would say that they are royalty when it comes to Israeli intelligence, sir.
Well, Steve, one of the interesting facts about Robert Maxwell, just right off the bat that I don't think people realize that even though he was born at the time, it was Czechoslovakia, but given the border shifts and the changes post World War II and then post Soviet Union, believe it or not, the town where Robert Maxwell was born is now in the territory of wait for it, Ukraine.
is actually where Robert Maxwell was born.
So it's right in this border region.
Of course, I've talked many, many times about how the border region in this area have changed.
I myself, actually, not my family is not too far from there and right on the border with Poland.
So he's right on the border today of Ukraine and Romania.
But there really were these questions about his ties with the setting up of Mossad, the setting up of the state when the Israelis were really first getting involved.
And then even back to the 80s, talking about his ability for finance, his ability in arms deals, tech transfer, surveillance.
that when Robert Maxwell passed, he was actually given a state funeral on, yes, the Mount of Olives itself outside of Jerusalem, one of the most honored spots.
I've traveled there many times, of course, in Israel and, of course, in Christianity, of the Mount of Olives being the area where Christ went to pray before he was baptized, and the Aphraim, where the Garden of Gethsemane is right there, et cetera, et cetera.
Everybody knows.
So being buried there is one of the highest honors that you can get in Israel.
Yes, yes, a state funeral.
Also the only, I think, American there's any statue or anything from there there's no statues for the boys that hit the beach at Normandy there's no statues for the young men of the eighth air force there's no statues for those that freed the camps no statues but the statue for Angleton of the CIA also the interesting thing about Maxwell is the whole controversy about technology that they were able to get back in those days that gave them access to be able to look everywhere and this gets to some of the big questions about Palantir
and some of these other some of these other companies today about the surveillance technology exactly who's financing it who owns it who controls it all of it let me go to Ukraine as you speak As you're talking about Ukraine with Maxwell, let's go to Ukraine.
Finally, we're getting some reality checks, Jack Bosovic.
The Washington Post got a big story today, but it's a culmination of a couple of things that's happened.
If you have been fond of the warm, you get in the straight skinny, not the happy talk at Fox, not the happy talk at NBC and CNN.
The reality is that the chaperones, right, the chaperones, England, Italy, France and Germany, had nothing to offer.
It was all trying to entrap President Trump and step up for everything, the United States for everything on security guarantees and money.
And they've got it out everywhere.
As you know, Jack, every newspaper has been reporting how their military is saying, we don't have the money to do this.
We don't have the weapons.
the Germans said, hey, we sent a brigade to Lithuania.
We're tapped out.
The head of the union of the German army, yes, the German army actually has a union of their soldiers, this colonel, and he was as blunt as anybody.
He says, this is ridiculous.
This is a bluff and praise strategy.
We don't have the manpower, we don't have the arms.
He called the European nations individually military dwarves.
And he said, this is just a fantasy.
Nothing's going to happen.
Europe has nothing to offer in Ukraine.
I think someone that understands that after he looked him in the eye, Jack Posobik is, and the reason the Poles did not come over.
President Trump, I think, fully appreciates now.
And the Washington Post story talks about that.
Two weeks.
What are we looking at, Jack Vasovic?
Well, Steve, there's this buried way, way down in this new piece of the Washington Post today.
And people can see the headline is Land for peace, Ukrainians Way, Frozen Frontline to Placate Russia.
And way, way down, one of Zelensky's top advisers and a guy who's always talking in the media is this individual, Timothy Milovinoff.
And Milovinoff, he's the director of the Kiev School of Economics.
I have been a consultant to Zelenskyy directly.
And he says directly to the Washington Post in print on the record that Zelenskyy is being put under a lot of pressure.
He is being threatened that there will no longer be financial support or intelligence support.
And in Ukraine, within Ukraine, no one will defend him.
So it seems as though, in one perspective, he's getting the squeeze from the American side.
But to and of course, we've seen President Trump put pressure on both Ukraine and Russia to push this thing to a close.
But also, we have to look at the fact that he's getting that Zelenskyy is facing internal pressure.
inside Ukraine.
We saw that Gallup poll where 70% of the country now wants negotiation.
We've seen protests break out in front of Zelensky's office and the fact, of course, that's been brought up time and time again that once the war ends and martial law is ceased within Ukraine, they have to hold presidential elections because he's only currently in office.
He'll have to stand for election immediately after the cessation of hostilities.
Real quickly, I want to get your thoughts and the audience does on three things.
Number one, they're calling up the reservists, sixty thousand reservists to commit.
to commence the military aspect of the Gaza war.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
It doesn't seem, I'm not getting the fact that the IDF's heart's in this.
Am I missing this?
I just don't see the, I don't see the intensity.
I don't see the urgency of going after, of going back to Gaza, not for an occupation.
I mean, just for the mission of taking down the, the remaining, I think, I don't know, 20,000 plus Hamas combatants.
Your thoughts?
Well, Steve, Gaza City, I mean, this is one of the most densely populated strips of land on the entire planet.
So if you're talking about going door to door, conducting close quarters combat for IDF, whether you're a reservist, even whether you're a special forces commando, this is going to be some of the hardest fighting you've ever seen.
This is Battle of Fallujah level on steroids going in there against a populace that is increasingly hostile and incredibly hostile to any Israeli soldier that's going to be coming in.
And at a time where, as they say, you don't know who's Hamas, you don't know who's not.
So going in there boots on the ground, the way that the United States did, the Marines did in Fallujah and the Navy SEALs, it's absolutely going to be a very high casualty environment, and they know that.
Just like in Fallujah, there's no air assets going to help you.
You're going to go door to door in this one.
It's going to be tough.
It's going to be as tough as Fallujah.
Jack, we have a amphibious ready group, the Iwo Jima Group, and the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Force has been assigned to Southcom.
That's 4,000 Marines and sailors.
Word has it that from Maduro and Venezuela all the way up to Central America, the cartels and in Mexico.
that Pete Hexes and the team are working through plans for actual military interdiction in the Western Hemisphere.
Your thoughts?
Well, Steve, look, you know, we've talked about the hemispheric defense here many times.
Many times, when I was at the press briefing the other day, Caroline Levitt came out and said that the United States government does not recognize Maduro as the legitimate leader of Venezuela and was working hard to tie you see this from the administration root large, where they are working to tie the cartels' operations directly to Maduro.
So this seems as though it's a whole of government approach to pressure both the cartels and Maduro and obviously allowing a range of options, both militarily and economically.
So we're seeing the president really ratchet the pressure up here in the Western Hemisphere.
Last but not least, the president is very pleased with what's happening in Washington, DC by cleaning up the city.
Now, I think the 2,000, there are going to be 2,000 troops.
They're going to be carrying weapons is the latest.
And also the president saying, hey, I'm looking at Chicago and New York City, which we've been a huge advocate, although we would say LA first, Chicago second, New York third.
Your thoughts there, as President Trump likes what he's seeing, he's out on patrol with the National Guard elements, the federalized National Guard elements.
Your thoughts about the next steps there?
All I would say is don't forget Philadelphia.
Philadelphia is very close to my heart, mister Mr. President, Stephen Miller, everyone who's up there, Pete Hagsett, please don't leave Philadelphia off the list.
It is the birthplace of freedom.
It's a great city.
It needs to be cleaned up.
They all do.
Look, we need to bouquele every single major city in this country.
It is time and I've been writing about this, it's been picked up all over about city cons versus rural cons and the rise of the city conservatives, the urban right, where this, these are people who come to politics a little bit differently than people who live in in the small towns that want to conserve their way of life.
We have a lot of conservatism who come to politics from urban areas.
They are fighting.
I put myself in that category.
We are fighting for our homes and our way of life that were stolen from us, and it's time to get them back.
Jack, you're covering so many big stories.
I want to make sure everyone gets access to your Twitter feed because you're like the Associated Press for the right, and it's pretty extraordinary.
And so as you're taking the manna of Rush Limba as a student of Rush Limba, where do people go to get the voice of Jack Vasobik over this weekend, sir?
There's only one rush, but maybe I can be the first Poso.
So it's at Human Events Daily.
Make sure you go up there.
We might have put up a special episode this weekend just to talk about all the developments this week.
So make sure everyone downloads Human Events Daily, subscribe, that really helps us out with our metrics.
And then of course at Jack Posobic Twitter, Get her, True Social, and of course Telegram.
Jack, thank you and thank Tonya Tay and the Boys for letting the audience, letting the War Room Posse have access to you for the first hour of the show.
Nothing but love for the War Room Posse.
And of course, Steve, thank you for, brother.
Appreciate you.
Extraordinary young man.
We're going to figure out the time, but we're going to have the great Aaron Wrights is going to join us on Monday.
He's running also for the Attorney General down in Texas.
In Texas, you know, losing Ken Paxton.
Ken Paxton is going to go, is in the Senate race.
The Attorney General's race down there is going to be a barn burner.
It's absolutely essential.
As Texas goes, so goes the nation.
As the nation goes, so goes the world.
He will join us on Monday.
Hopefully Monday morning.
If not, it'll be Monday afternoon.
We'll figure it out.
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I tell you, if you want to see what could happen here, just look at the United Kingdom and look at London.
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And this is why President Trump is so smart and our strategy is a maximalist strategy.
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I got to ask a question, a technical question.
I made a film with Michael Pack about Fallujah.
First Fallujah and second Fallujah and a Jaff in the middle.
In the interviews with marines and special forces and Navy SEOs like yourself, second Fallujah, we talked about that.
It was like a whole different deal.
I mean, the guys got the thousand yards to air.
You see these IDF guys that have these troops and particularly some reservists are calling up, have to go into Gaza City when you compact down to one city and you've got twenty thousand dead enders.
Like you had the Chechens.
Remember, in Fallujah, they had a strategy of bringing all the bad guys together because they wanted to kill it with one blow.
But it was absolutely horrific.
I think the Marines will tell you one of the toughest battles in the history of the Marine Corps, including places like Pelaloo and Tarawa, these amazing landings that they did in the Pacific that were bloodier than Normandy.
Your thoughts as the IDF gets ready to go into Gaza City, what should our audience look for as far as anticipation of how tough that's going to be for those troops?
That's what we call urban warfare, Steve.
IDF's going to be fighting, building the building.
They're going to be clearing the buildings.
A lot of these times, when you go inside and clear these buildings with these guys and with the enemy, it's they're just hornets' nests.
So they're actually going to be using bulldozers and just bulldozing over these buildings.
I've seen them on the IDFs using them.
The Marine Corps used them in Fallujah.
They're big, huge D-10 armored bulldozers.
They just bulldoze these buildings and the IDF, one thing they're going using airstrikes.
They're dropping what they call small diameter bombs.
They're 50 pounds GPS guided bombs and then 250 pounds GPS guided bombs.
And they can take down a single building or two buildings with those small bombs.
So back then we didn't have those.
We were using 500 pounders.
It takes down a lot more.
It's a lot less precise.
So urban warfare, close quarters battle.
It's a dirty game.
It's very, very dangerous.
Later later in the war, we started developing.
different tactics.
We actually we started doing call outs where we stole those tactics from like LAPD and the NYPD where you actually call the people out and if they don't come out then you just blow up the whole building because it's so dangerous to go in these buildings you're going to start losing operators and what's worth more an enemy combatant or one of your own operators.
So a lot of times you just level the buildings with the people in it if they don't come out.
That that's the best way to do it.
That's the safest way for your side yeah because what people don't like in fallusion here the folks are there as the combatants the fighters they're there for a reason they're dead enders They're not looking to have a long life.
They're there to, hey, if I can take as many Americans, as many IDF guys, I'm going to take them out.
My reward would be in the afterlife, but I'm not backing off.
Go ahead.
Yeah, one more thing is actually in some of these buildings, when you go in, you know, these guys are not just sleeping in their beds or hanging out in there.
They actually they build machine gun nests inside the buildings.
So they're they actually fill sandbags and build machine gun nests and they have a belt-fed machine gun pointed at the front door.
They'll put plywood over the stairs so you can't go up the stairs and they build machine gun nests on the second story landings facing the doorway.
So when you go in there, it's nasty.
That's why I said sometimes you just bulldoze the buildings.
You just bomb the buildings.
It's better.
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